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Folks, it's always so amazing to come on the show and get the host.
Um this is um my biggest platform.
Uh getting to step into Sean Shoes and come up here uh over 30 years of his experience building this platform, and uh he and Linda have uh graced uh me with the opportunity to come on here and spread the truth.
And that's what I'm all about.
Those of you who don't know who I am, and I just can't understand, Linda.
I can't understand how they wouldn't know who I am.
Uh I'm very disgraceful.
Very humble.
If you don't know who Jonathan is, forget about it.
Forget about it.
Well, you know, it's interesting.
I've only been here, well, no, only I've been in New York for 14 years, right?
So um that accent that Linda has is like home for me now.
It's strange.
I go back to Arkansas, I get a Southern accent, I come back here.
I think somebody else has the accent here, it's not me.
I'm all twisted.
So anyway.
No, you have an accent.
That's your problem.
Yeah, well, I'm I good stuff.
I'm proud of my Arkansas heritage.
So uh those of you who don't know who I am, I'm a former Navy SEAL, Federal Air Marshal, uh security contractor, uh FBI special agent.
Um that I used to say with great pride, not so much anymore.
I mean, I love the men and women of the FBI that work in the FBI still have amazing friends in there.
Uh, but as we've seen with many of these agencies, um, the upper echelons, the senior executive service, and many of these people, uh, it's it's become uh the whole upper echelon of executive power in Washington,
DC has become tattered at best, and in a lot of ways, subversive, uh putting their opinions and what they believe into uh their practice of how they carry out leadership, how they pick cases, and just like the media, how they sway information.
Now we're gonna have uh in in a little bit, uh I'm gonna bring when I was on here last week with Sean as a guest.
I was on with Sean Gallagher, who is uh Eddie Gallagher Navy SEAL active duty Navy SEAL, Eddie Gallagher's brother, and uh I'm gonna have another uh SEAL on with me as well, and we're gonna discuss uh the case with Eddie.
I want to give people an update on that.
People have been asking me for an update.
You know, what uh what I want to point out now though, uh, and it how it relates to all the things that are going on in the media, is that with Eddie, I believe what the evidence shows is that there is a picture being painted of him by the prosecution that's not true.
And, you know, it this isn't just a one-off thing.
Uh I've seen this with other cases that the Jag Corps in the Navy uh and in the DOD for that matter, um, that they work this way.
Now, it didn't used to be that way.
It didn't used to be that way.
It was like uh every other uh uh court in the uh United States where you were innocent until proven guilty, and we let the facts play out in front of a jury.
But over the years, just like media has become corrupt, the court system and the attorneys and the way they carry out these cases has also been corrupted.
They have learned knowingly or unknowingly, I don't know what they're teaching in law school, but they've learned the art of propaganda and subversive tactics.
They have learned that you can do a covert movement, if it will, sometimes not even covert, it's overt, I should say, of propaganda, trying to build an image of somebody of guilty, regardless of what the uh information or evidence may say.
And that is very problematic for me because we live in a country that is supposed to be free.
We live in a country where uh we are we are not supposed to fear um the government coming after us because they don't share our beliefs, for instance.
We're we live in a country where the founding fathers took great steps to ensure that whatever religion you want to feel, uh whatever opinion you want to have about uh a politician or the police or anybody else for that matter, is protected.
It's your opinion, you can have it.
And one of the ways that those protections carry out throughout the Constitution is that we are protected from being held as guilty before we are proven innocent.
And when we look at the case of Eddie Gallagher, which again we're gonna talk about later, and we look at the case of President Trump with this Russia fake Russia collusion, when we look at uh Michael Cohen marching into uh the courthouse today and and claiming blind loyalty to Trump when he's being charged with crimes that have nothing to do with President Trump.
And he's saying that blind loyalty, that is a smear tactic.
That is a campaign, a propaganda campaign that the prosecution, in this in that case, it's Mueller, that they use to press upon juries and people who are being charged and manipulated for various reasons.
Now, I don't know what the reasons are in Eddie Gallagher's case.
It's very clear when you look at uh Michael Cohen that they're going after him to put pressure on Trump, which is very interesting.
It's very interesting because I monitor social media a lot.
And yesterday I have to tell you, I don't know if the president's listening to this.
I hope he is.
I don't know if he is, but if he was, I would say to him, sir, yesterday, the impromptu press conference uh or shaming in front of the world, the way he handled Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer was probably one of the most profound acts of leadership I have seen in my lifetime from a politician.
And yeah, you know, Trump's in the political world now, so we have to call him a politician.
What he did yesterday in handling, and I know they talked about this, and they and you look on the news, everybody is talking about it, but what he did yesterday was one, he he handled uh the opposition, not just opposition, the liars in government, and he kept them at bay from, you know, they kept saying over and over again, let's just do this in private.
Let's take this in private.
Let's have this debate in private.
Well, why?
Why does something that is such a national security issue like border protection and immigration reform, why does that need to be debated behind closed doors?
There's nothing there that is going to be put out that's it's not going to be made public.
You can't hide uh the tactics of putting up a wall because, hey, you're putting up a wall.
So I don't understand what there is to discuss in private.
But Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer continuously pushed, let's put this in in uh a private room.
Let's have these debates in private.
Doesn't make any sense.
They offered no solutions.
Chuck Schumer comes out and says, we we do have solutions, he calls them solutions, that can pass both uh uh the House and the Senate through the Republicans and the Democrats.
But historically, those are not effective solutions.
Those are solutions to get a bill through, not solutions to solve a problem.
And so when I was watching that yesterday, when I watched the president press them in this microscope, what we got to see was the reality.
And look, I I say this time and time again.
You may be listening to this show and you may be liberal.
Heaven help you if you are somebody who believes in the Democrat Party.
You may have liberal beliefs and you may have ideas of social programs.
Doesn't mean you're a socialist.
You may have ideas about social programs.
I believe in certain social programs as well.
And I guarantee you, if the majority of us sat down and worked these out, we would come to effective solutions.
And we would, there's nothing that we would have to hide there.
But what the president did yesterday is that he held this the one of two uh political parties.
I wish he would do the same thing that he did with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.
I wish he would do it with the uh the the leaders in the Republican Party as well, because he called them on the carpet in front of the media, which was broadcasting this live, and it gave us true transparency, true transparency.
And you see that Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi offer no solutions to the problem, only solutions uh to getting the bill through the House and the Senate, which probably wouldn't happen anyway.
And so as I was preparing for the show today, I was going over that press conference, and I was going over exactly what uh a former president, President Kennedy said in his, I believe it was his last speech.
And first of all, I want to play real quick.
Let's cut one from that speech.
Let's play that real quick, and I'm gonna explain why this is important, even though he's trying to make light at this particular this in 1961, by the way.
Go ahead.
You remember may remember that in 1851, New York Herald Tribune, under the sponsorship and publishing of Horace Greeley, employed as its London correspondent, an obscure journalist by the name of Paul Marks.
We are told that foreign correspondent Marx, stone broke, and with a family ill and undernourished, constantly appealed to Greeley and managing editor Charles Dana for an increase in his munificent salary of five dollars per installment, a salary which he and Engels ungratefully label as the lousiest petty bourgeois cheating.
But when all his financial appeals were refused, Marx looked around for other means of livelihood and fame, eventually terminating his relationship with the Tribune and devoting his talents full-time to the cause that would be queathed to the world, the seeds of Leninism, Stalinism, Revolution, and the Cold War.
Now, I don't think I have to say too much about that that audio clip to that it should resonate home with you.
You know, first of all, Karl Marx in 1850 was working as a journalist.
Now, I'm not saying all journalists are communists, but I am saying that the subversive ideology that permeates what we call the media these days, it's very, very similar, and they're very similar in their beliefs.
Now, what was also interesting about that is the Herald Tribune that he's talking about there went on and to become, was bought and split up and became the New York Times and the Washington Post.
The two most liberal left, not just liberal, let's be honest, the two most leftist uh papers and really media platforms that there are.
There is none worse.
I I think you could put CNN and MSNBC in that category, but by and large, uh they have probably done more damage than most.
Now, he goes on to speak in this uh in this speech about uh let's play cut two real quick and then I'll I'll I'll explain to you As this goes along.
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for expanding its sphere of influence on infiltration instead of invasion on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day.
It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations.
Its preparations are concealed, not published.
Its mistakes are buried, not headlined.
Its dissenters are silenced, not praised.
No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.
It conducts the Cold War in short, with a wartime discipline, no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.
Now, that should be just as profound.
When he was given this speech in 1961, I and the people that he was giving it to by and large were conservatives that were in the media at that point in time.
He goes on to talk about the one party uh media or press at that time, and uh I'm pretty sure he was talking about the conservatism of a lot of the of the the uh newspapers and different uh people that were out there.
But what's interesting about that is when he lays that out, and I and I challenge you to go back and listen to this speech, you can find it on YouTube.
Listen to what he is saying about the tactics of subversives from the Cold War and what was happening at that point.
When you look at media, when you look at the court system, when you look at the way justice has been totally, totally crippled in this country, you are looking at those exact tactics.
And to me, as an American, uh born free and uh somebody who, as he says at the end of the speech, free and independent, like we're supposed to be, it's very alarming to me.
And it should be very alarming to you.
I don't care what side of the aisle that you fall on.
It doesn't matter what side of the aisle that you fall on.
In this day and age, what is occurring is a subversive movement.
I've been saying this for years, but more and more it's coming to light.
The way that the media plays this out, the way sound bites are used, the way that all these politicians want to meet in private.
They don't want their debates to be aired in a transparent way.
It's very similar to the tactics that President Kennedy was talking about in 1961, and that is alarming to me.
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You know, folks, listen, before we go to break again, it's important for you to realize if you didn't hear my opening monologue, it's important for you to understand that that quote that came from John F. Kennedy right there about being free and independent.
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Was there any choice there?
Uh why, if this was salacious and this particular part of the dossier unverified, still unverified, by the way.
Yes.
So far as when I got fired, it was unverified.
Did you tell him that the steel dossier had been financed by his political opponents?
No.
I didn't, I didn't even think I used the term steel dossier.
I just talked about additional material.
But did he have a right to know that?
That it had been financed by his political opponents.
I don't know the answer to that.
It wasn't necessary for my goal, which was to alert him that we had this information.
This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity and that what you were just listening to in my my view, having been an FBI agent, is a criminal.
And I believe there's so many people that we could consider criminals that have worked at the top echelons of government in the senior executive service and politicians and these political appointees that when I look at the Cohen case and I look at what he's being charged with, I just find it it's utterly, utterly ridiculous.
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It teaches you strictly about awareness, which is very interesting because once you open the Pandora's box of awareness, you start questioning everything.
And this is one of those things.
You know, I I wanted Lynn and I were talking about who to bring in for this, and we wanted to bring somebody in that, you know, I'm not an attorney.
I worked putting people in front of attorneys so that they could go to jail when I was in the FBI.
But having an attorney on to talk about the reality of these cases, I think is very important.
And somebody I've always respected is David Schoen, uh Civil Liberties attorney.
You see him on Sean Hannity's TV show all the time.
And David, it I think it's the first time we've ever been on together.
I've been watching you for years and years, and it's uh I'm always amazed at your insight.
So thank you for being on.
I appreciate it.
I really appreciate it.
It's an honor.
It's great to be on with you.
And I should tell you, you know, my father was an FBI agent, so that's even more of an honor.
Oh, that's well, there you go.
And that was when the FBI had something worthy.
It was, I mean, they had uh listen, I'm not saying that the FBI agents out there aren't worthy of praise, but the reality is they are uh the whole organization is taking a hit, and especially the leadership's just not to be not to be trusted.
Yeah, it's it's very very sad, but uh I got two preliminary comments I want to make.
One is I'm so glad to hear you call a crime a crime that has to be said and has to be said it In those plain terms, and uh your insight about awareness could not be more right on.
I just wish everyone would apply that.
So I suppose everybody ought to really get the book.
Well, aware thank you very much for that plug.
Awareness is it is a, and you know this as an attorney, you know, and anybody who's ever had a job, right?
Let's say they go get a job and they learn a little bit about about their job, and all of a sudden the rest of what they're supposed to do just kind of it's like something's opened up and they say, okay, that makes sense to do this, this, and this.
It league the legal system is very similar, similar.
And uh when we look at uh whether you're trying to hunt for a terrorist or protect yourself, which is what sheep no more uh is all about, um, it's very similar in this case because when you look at the court system, the court system is supposed to work in a certain manner, and when you see what's happening with Cohen, with Flynn and all these other people, it's and you see people like Clinton, and nothing's happening.
I it's I I cannot sit back and say, oh, that's normal.
I I think you're right.
Listen, I think so much of this was foreseeable for at least two reasons.
One, the makeup of the Mueller team sent the only message that had to be sent, and that is that the American public should have absolutely no confidence in anything that they come up with or anything they pursue because he intentionally and knowingly chose a team that had one agenda, it was an anti-Trump agenda, the pro-Clinton agenda, people who financially backed Clinton, people who represented Clinton.
It's outrageous for that American public to be footing the bill for it and to be subjected to that kind of investigation that simply can't have any integrity.
Um the other reason I think it was foreseeable is the special counsel regulations themselves open up the door to an unscrupulous prosecutor simply charging people with these subsidiary crimes, crimes that weren't crimes until they made the mistake of speaking to the special prosecutor, which then allowed him and his team to charge them with things like what they perceive to be lying to the special prosecutor, is their unilateral a decision to make.
They charge people and change their lives, ruin their lives just on their whim.
Right.
So let's it uh perfectly said.
Let's go back just a little bit and look at how this uh special prosecutor came about, right?
So you had all this stuff with Clintons going on and all this maneuvering.
I believe personally that uh that there were coordinations, and I've said this before, I believe that the lot of this stuff has been coordinated with Russian entities on behalf of the Democrat Party to make it look like there's footprints, for instance, when they uh they say that somebody is in the computer in the DNC and they don't even do anything for a month about it, and then they say, Oh, we have Russian footprints in here.
I I think those things are very easily explained if you look at it from an investigative standpoint who's worked any type of crime whatsoever, that uh a lot of the times people try to make things look like they're the victim when in fact they're the ones doing actually perpetrating the crime.
When listen, you're the you're the expert on that, and you've seen it time and time again.
What I can say as a lawyer and just as an American is that it is outrageous what went on with the Clinton emails, what the government knew what went on, and that to date it still hasn't been pursued.
The FBI every day of the week uh files criminal indictments against people for the destruction of emails in the course of an investigation.
Um nothing, nothing has happened here.
It's amazing the power that must attend uh Mrs. Clinton and her whole uh entourage.
Well, and it goes it transcends all into the across the government sector.
We look at the IRS and Lois Lerner.
We lost our emails.
Do you know uh how I know people who've gotten in trouble in the Bureau for little things, and they go back and pull up their BlackBerry messages from three, four years ago, and they can find entry and they go through all of them, right?
If they can find that, they're not gonna be able to find 30,000 emails from a server that was hooked up, you know, as far as you know, any other government computer.
Um, it's shocking.
It's shocking.
Listen, look at what happened during the IG investigation.
The FDI claimed they couldn't find certain emails that were relevant to the Anthony Wiener laptop and so on, and the IG found somehow those emails.
There's just too much monkey business going on.
Right.
And when we so we let's move forward there, and everybody's heard this a thousand times, but I think it's very important now that we see Comey here.
We go forward and we see that uh Comey, when he was in uh this predicament with uh the the Wiener uh laptop, and I really do believe that was not something that they planned on, and that was what caused uh James Comey to act.
That's what caused James Comey to have to come forward and give a 14 minute speech about how guilty Clinton was, And then say she's not guilty for one minute.
And though and then he goes and leaks information to a Columbia University professor so that he can cause the special council to happen, and that's how we got here.
It's a disaster.
I mean, I don't think anybody out there, any fair-minded person would in a million years expect this from a modern day FBI director um or anyone in the high position of government that Comey has held.
What we're seeing now from Comey with his book tour, and it all seems to be about Comey, about what Comey wants to do about Comey's ego.
It's outrageous to leak documents to Professor Daniel Richmond, who also should have known better for the specific purpose of circumventing the rules and getting a special prosecu a special counsel uh appointed or whatever Comey's agenda was.
And the IG's investigation still is open on that.
We have to see what's going to happen.
And the guy's still going around touting his book and being arrogant before Congress.
Look, some of the answers you just played are outrageous.
He doesn't consider that he had an ethical duty to tell anyone to whom it was relevant that who financed the steel dossier and all of that, which we and we're now just getting starting to scratch the surface about what was omitted from the applications to the FISA court uh and how they were misled.
And so something that you just said there, you his arrogance is something that speaks loudly.
So you can look at Flynn and you see not an ounce of arrogance.
In fact, you see a man that's practically destroyed, right?
When you look at Cohen or excuse me, when you well, Cohen's the same way.
When you look at Mull uh Mueller and you look at Comey, what you're seeing is it's identical.
If you were to look at mob bosses when they're on trial and the way that they conduct themselves with an ego as though nothing is ever going to happen.
The Teflon Don.
That's the way they act.
That's the way people who have an insight to the judges, the juries, the prosecution, that's the way they act.
And that's exactly the way that they're acting.
You're you're 100% right.
But I would say this, and I don't think we've talked enough about this, frankly, over the last several months.
I know that the president is getting certain political advice that he has to walk carefully with Mueller, he doesn't want to appear to be too heavy-handed.
But frankly, the Justice Department, forget about Rod Rosenstein.
He was a disaster with this whole Muller business.
But now that he's not in charge, uh the Justice Department not only should get involved, they have an obligation to rein in Mueller to the extent Mueller engages in misconduct or simply presents himself and his team inappropriately to the American people for a public investigation.
At the end of the day, while the AG can't be involved in the day to day, the AG is responsible for the Mueller investigation.
Muller has to report to him, and the AG is the one who sets the boundaries and the parameters.
It's time to, you know, everybody has seen the viciousness of Andrew Weissman, the unfair play of all of them.
It's time for the AG to act responsibly and for the Justice Department to take charge.
Um that's bottom line to me.
So here's what we're gonna do.
I'm gonna I'm gonna pose something, a question about that.
We'll take a break and come back and get your response to that because here's the deal.
The AG also said while they were doing their investigation, they had uh they lost emails that they couldn't, and it took them a month or two months to recover.
Can we trust the AG?
Because he is part of the senior executive service.
I you know, you hold your your response on that, uh, David Schoen, and we'll be back in just a minute.
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You know, folks, I know you a lot of you are gonna be around your families this Christmas, okay?
So it's very important, especially the way the country is divided, for you to come up with a way to keep everybody in line and happy, right?
And you know, you can't do the same old games and the same old things that are going on.
I know at Linda's house they play uh what is it called, uh Twister.
Your family does something to drink and plays twister, is that what you guys do?
That's right.
Something like that.
Okay.
So anyway.
That's a different show.
That's a different show.
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It's called Wits and Wagers.
All right.
So when you have a full house of people and you're trying to do stuff together, you pull this game out, and uh what you do as soon as soon as you set it up, first of all, people are gonna go crazy once they know what it's about.
Wits and wagers is great to play.
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It was pretty amazing, was it not?
Pretty amazing.
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So let's get back to what we were talking about a second ago.
Um we got David Schoen on here, and uh he is a an attorney extraordinaire, um, civil liberties attorney, and I posed the question when we left on break.
Can the AG be trusted?
Yeah, listen, it's a big and important question.
Here's the way I look at it.
I want to believe that we're starting a new day at the attorney general's office.
Um we uh Mr. Sessions, I hate to say it as a fellow Alabamian, but uh he uh it just didn't work out.
If we're you have already said more in this segment than than he said in his entire tenure as the attorney general.
Well, I I think I think that's right.
What we saw at the Justice Department was paralysis, it's either a combination of malfeasance and missing inaction for far too long.
The country can't take that any longer.
Listen, this Muller investigation has paralyzed things.
Despite that, frankly, the president has made amazing, amazing, amazing steps in the Middle East, um, in the economy, etc., despite this paralysis, but I'm afraid it's got everybody side fact, so the country's being run in a sense by Muller and the media.
I want to give the attorney general, the incoming attorney general, if if it's gonna be Mr. Barr, whoever it's gonna be, the benefit of the doubt.
But say that listen, Muller is now on your watch.
You've got to take charge here.
Uh proper maintenance of emails and other records is on your watch.
You've got an IGN who I believe to be an honest guy, has been a good friend of mine for many, many years.
Uh, they're acting too slowly with these investigations.
Some of the investigations were farmed out to U.S. attorneys now who are all also acting slowly.
You want to be careful, but we've got to have action.
You have to show that the Justice Department is being fair-handed in some manner.
And so that means now really going after the Comey's, the McCabes, um, all of these folks, the Clintons, and exposing what went on there, if we're gonna continue with this so-called investigation of Mr. Trump.
Um, so whether the AG can be trusted is gonna depend on what happens on their new watch.
I want to give them the benefit of the doubt.
So let me uh let me ask this because I have we got about a minute left, and I have a terrible time trusting any of these people that are uh what I call swamp people that are part of the Washington, DC scene and then are brought in.
Like I would like to see somebody like Andy McCarthy come in and be the attorney general, somebody that's not a part of that swamp, even though Andy never seems to uh he always turns me down every time I try to interview him.
I hope he heard that too, by the way.
But um I I have a problem with bringing these people in because the last question I got for you, real quick, 30 seconds.
What point is are civil liberties being violated for somebody like President Trump, where the the Department of Justice or these people are doing these things, they're not verified, the investigations are false, uh built on false evidence, and they're using the media to smear him.
At what point are Americans um actually that their civil liberties are being um violated?
Every day of the week.
Listen, our whole right to vote has been uh diminished as a result of this because we see if there's an agenda against the elected candidate, that that's gonna hold sway both in the media and unfortunately In the Department of Justice for now at least.
But what you've seen with the Pfizer court is one of the most outrageous uh violations of civil liberties based on just what we know so far that I think we've seen in many, many, many years, and it's especially dangerous because of the secrecy that attends that process and it's done at part day.
God bless you, brother.
Keep up the great work.
David Schoen, uh civil rights attorney, and this is John the Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
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That ought to be great.
And uh I just want to say this real quick.
I I love Twitter.
I love Twitter.
I'll tell you why.
Because Twitter allows me to see the reality of the mindset and the brain cells of everybody that's out there in uh this country, this great country that I love, and the people that I've defended both at home and abroad.
My favorite tweet of the day so far, besides all the normal insult tweets that you get when uh when I host for Sean, um the the leftist trolls love Sean.
They really do.
They love him.
He has a special place in their heart.
Uh Dorothy wrote wrote me and said, It's been 32 minutes already, and you've pitched your book two times.
One time an hour is too often unless you want us to change the dial.
So here's what I'm gonna ask.
Please don't change the dial, Dorothy.
I don't have my own radio show.
So when I come on here, I have to push as much as possible.
So bear with me.
There's a reason why I'm pushing this book, is because of all it took me three years to write this book to get it out, and it is something that will change your life when you read it.
It will make you safer.
It'll make the people that you know safer.
And uh, and I'll explain it later.
But it's called Sheep No More and you can get it on Amazon.
So there's one more for you, Dorothy.
I love you.
So listen, let's let's change the subject here real quick.
Enough about me.
Let's talk about uh what I uh discussed earlier, which is the legal system and how it's it's unbelievable.
It's mind-boggling how even in the military, in the DOD Jag Corps, how corrupted the military uh the legal system has gotten to a point where attorneys go out of their way to formulate an image of somebody that may or may not, and quite often, a lot of times it has nothing to do with reality.
And they will formulate this picture uh that they can spread around almost like a subversive uh intelligence uh mission, and so that people, even in uh the the area where these people operate and work will start to doubt them.
You see the same thing with President Trump on television with all the Russian stuff.
How many people that are conservatives have said, well, I don't know, maybe this is real, maybe it's not.
Maybe Trump did do something with the Russians.
But yet, when you look at the case, if you know anything about investigations, there's nothing there.
Nothing.
And it's the same when I look at my friend uh Eddie Gallagher's case, Navy SEAL, uh, that's being held for get this, folks.
Being in a firefight, killing upwards of, I don't know, like 49 ISIS fighters.
One guy was left barely alive.
From what we understand, Eddie and another uh uh medic on this uh ISIS fighter after he had been drugged and beat up by and he's he has a bleeding art artillery uh or excuse me, artery wound, sucking chest wound, his trachea is crushed.
Eddie, who's a medic uh in the chief of his platoon and another medic work on this individual to bring him back so they not not because they love the guy, but because they want to uh interrogate him to get information out of him for follow-on missions.
And they were unable to bring him back.
And lo and behold, three haters that were in the platoon, and I'll let uh Sean Gallagher who's gonna come on with me along along with my good buddy uh Robert Ekoniac, uh a former retired SEAL, um, tell you more about this.
But there were three guys from the platoon that just did not like Eddie, were caught conspiring to come up with a story to kind of frame Eddie, and now uh uh Eddie has been held in a brig in San Diego.
I think I think he's in San Diego, maybe Raw, but he's been held in a brig now since September eleventh.
Now, this is a guy that's being accused of murdering a dying ISIS fighter uh by plunging a knife into him.
So get that straight.
He's being accused of murdering an uh uh an ISIS fire fighter that is dying that they just got out of a firefight with, and he was arrested NCIS and their in their infinite wisdom decided in the Jag Corps.
Let's arrest this guy on September 11th.
Let's go into the medical unit where he's getting his traumatic brain injury treated, and let's arrest him in front of everybody, and then hold his kids at gunpoint in the front yard on September 11th, after he's being accused of killing a dying ISIS fighter that he just got into a firefight with.
Now, as we move forward, what what I'm starting to see here is that the prosecutor in this case, the JAG prosecutor, is using the same tactics that I've seen him use over and over and over again when I look into his background, and that is they have it appears to me to be a group of people that are maligning Eddie, and they are doing it subversively.
They're calling people in the command, they're calling other team guys, they're calling people in media, and they're even calling congressmen and saying, and it's not a lot of people.
We're talking about a couple of people, and they're saying that there's more evidence to this.
So far, there is no evidence that we've seen.
And Eddie himself and all the people that have talked to him separately come back and say, one, Eddie's crushed, and two, it's the same story over and over again.
It just didn't happen.
They have no body, they have no evidence, they just have three guys' testimony against a whole host of other people, including Iraqis, that say none of this stuff ever happened.
So joining me now is Eddie's brother, Sean Gallagher, and uh good friend of mine, retired Navy SEAL Robert Ekoniac.
Guys, uh thank you for being on here.
Um Robert as always, my my brother, thank you for your service and being part of the brotherhood.
Um I I wanna I want to start with with Robert real quick in in as far as this brotherhood goes.
Uh it's a touchy subject for SEALs to come on and discuss these things.
And the reason I wanted to bring you on is because you know, uh I was a SEAL, but I was a one platoon uh hit wonder, and I never went to war.
I did I I entered all my doors in the FBI later on.
But you were in war, and you've been in these situations.
Um how much of what's going on and the way this has been publicly aired.
How much of a hit is that on operators that are over there right now or getting ready to deploy as far as their psyche when they are gonna be going up against uh uh a warring faction that wants to eliminate us?
Well, it's uh thank you for having me on, and it's a pleasure to be here today.
And I just I'd like to stipulate on this that I have been retired, so I don't have the pulse of actually what's going on, but do have the uh opportunity to where uh I've been able to talk with a lot of these guys.
And the consensus of the few people, the people that I have spoken with is is that um they're very apprehensive because it seems that you're being judged after the fact versus having the support going down range to go fight the fight.
Uh you can take this fight to the enemy, uh serve your nation, fight for your nation to come home to be uh relegated to accusations and then be guilty uh until proven innocent versus being innocent until proven guilty.
And that seems to be uh something that is huge in the legal system right now, somehow along the way, whether it be a Supreme Court nominee being accused of some thing that happened when he was in high school, or whether it be Eddie or even President Trump, it's let's just let's let's convict these people in the court of public opinion uh and not worry about really proving whether he's innocent or guilty.
Sean, let me ask you uh first of all, have you talked to Eddie recently?
Yes.
And how's he doing?
He's hanging in as as best he can.
Um you can imagine someone of his caliber and of his stature being confined in, you know, behind razor wire in a jail by the very country he that he fought to protect for twenty years for the freedoms that he f he fought to give everybody is now being denied those.
It's a pretty soul crushing experience.
I mean, he's the strongest guy I've ever I've ever met.
I mean, imagine having an older brother who becomes a Navy SEAL for 14 years and goes to war, not only two times or three times or four times, but eight times.
Um he's an immensely strong guy, but I think that the thing that is most heart wrenching to him and our family is the betrayal that he feels and that we feel by his community and and by the country, really, that there is just what you and and Robert had alluded to a cancer, a corruption within.
Let me just say let me just say this real quick though.
He is not being held by his country.
I want to when I say the country, I'm talking about the people.
Yeah, he's being held by the government for sure.
But the reality is he's being held by what I believe is a broken judicial system inside the military and outside the military that has uh has now attorneys that are not ethical that work off of principles of ego and careerism and uh are not concerned with guilt or innocent.
They're concerned with winning cases, and they'll do that it in in for any any way that they can get it done.
And the other thing that I'm really, really perplexed by is are these people anti-war, anti-Trump?
I would love to find out about this prosecutor and a lot of these people in the Jag Corps.
It's the same thing in the Department of Justice, it's the same thing we've seen in with Mueller and that whole group.
I would not doubt if these people, the way that they're treating this warrior and uh a man who's done so much for this country, it would not surprise me if there are the same type of let's shift the way this country is, let's make our military nicer, and let's punish warriors for doing their job.
Well, there's a clear, clear indication that and and it's one of those things where you can see it so vividly when you look at it.
This guilty until proven innocent thing is as you mentioned, but also just a clear ignorance of the job that guys like yourself and Robert and Eddie have to do day in and day out of what they're doing over there.
And so there absolutely is this Monday morning quarterbacking, this armchair, you know, quarterbacking where they're saying, Oh, well, maybe you should have done this or that.
And they have no clue of the blood, the sweat, the tears, the effort, the time away from family and the commitment to a cause that a guy like Eddie has to go through, the purity of thought and just the the commitment to his country that he has to take out and and do the missions that he has.
We see just an yeah, you're absolutely right.
I couldn't said it better myself.
Uh uh an undercutting of that by this uh false ideology that a lot of these folks have that they can't square away a guy like Eddie and what he stands for and what he's willing to do to protect us with these kind of soft ideals, and they they just use those to judge, and it's it's it's heart-wrenching because they have the power and they have the authority, and here Eddie is the victim of that corruption, that victim of that cancer within.
Uh, and you know, we're fighting like hell to get him out, but it's been a tough battle.
Listen, let's take a break real quick.
We're gonna come back real quick though, before we go.
I'm gonna hold you guys over.
What is the uh website where people can go and donate and support Eddie?
Justice for Eddie.com.
Justice for Eddie.com.
This is Jonathan Gill.
I'm filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
I'm gonna hold both my brothers over there for a second.
We're gonna come back and talk more about Eddie Gallagher and the judicial system as a whole and about warfare and the reality of what actually happens over there.
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Uh Sean Gallagher.
Eddie Gallagher is a former active duty Navy SEAL, actually, being held in the brig.
Sean Gallagher is his brother, and Robert Ikognac is a retired Navy SEAL.
Guys, we're we don't have a lot of time in this segment, so I want to just cut to the chase here about this.
Robert, I want to ask you point blank.
Um when and I know that again I said this before, uh, it's a slippery slope.
I know there's a lot of team guys out there that don't like this stuff aired, but the reality is I think that the brotherhood transcends warfare.
You come home, you should support your brothers.
What do you feel the same way?
Do the teammates feel the same way, and is there a movement starting?
If not, how do we get this started to where we get teammates realizing how important this is to stand up uh for somebody who has not even gone to trial and is already being convicted as uh guilty.
Wow, that there's a there's a few different answers.
Uh there's multiple layers there, but for the most part, what I'll say to you, Jonathan, is is that um uh there is the sentiment of actually looking to find the truth because right now what we're not seeing is evidence being presented to to bring this case to convict Eddie because nothing exists other than happenstance and circumstance uh uh evidence to suggest that something happened versus video or anything of that nature.
So when when we're looking at this within the community, uh I think that this did uh what the brotherhood really is about because uh even no man behind is a culture that we live by, and right now we're seeing a division here where we want to be uh stand right in hindsight and make judgments based on what happened in combat after the fact versus standing behind our brother and seek the truth and find out where the actual line of truth sits.
And you were in charge of men in in war.
Um you know mentality, you know people who are able-minded.
Is Eddie a danger to society?
No.
And and you know, that that that's interesting that you bring that up because if you take a look at Eddie Gallagher's record from the Marine Corps all the way into the SEAL teams, this guy has presented himself upon the battle space as clear headed.
In fact, a leader amongst men, being able to assess the battlefield space and not just react, but to gain victory to to maneuver to the it's advantageous position.
Right.
Uh demonstrate it time and again.
And even even when I do the business in the brig.
Even inside of there trying to help.
Yeah.
Who are you needed, not even thinking of themselves.
He's a he's he's a natural born leader.
Got to go to a break.
Sean, just real quick, what is the name of the website again?
It is justice for Eddie.com.
All right.
God bless you guys.
Thank you very much.
We'll stay on top of this.
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I'm filling in for Sean Hannity.
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Right now, I want to go.
I want to take a call real quick.
The the woman that you were telling me about.
Which which one is that?
Let's We might we want to go to Deb.
Let's go to Deb.
Deb, are you there?
Yes, sir.
Deb, tell me what you were wanting to say.
I heard that woman call in and she was complaining about you promoting your book.
And I just wanted to say that, you know, I listen to the radio a lot, and I hear a lot of guest hosts, and some of them are just lame, but you have a lot to say.
You've got an opinion, you've got you put it well together, and I think heck, go ahead and promote your book.
I love that.
And yes, I do have a lot to say.
I was raised in Arkansas, and uh it is in bred in us from a very young age to say whatever's on your mind.
I think it's great.
But uh, but listen, I do appreciate that.
Uh, you know, I have a limited amount of time when I come on the radio because I'm a fill-in host for people, so I have a limited amount of time to push what I believe is not just a book, but it's a manual for safety and awareness, and that's so I appreciate that.
If you don't have it, I want you to get it, and I want your opinion on it, Deb, because I like the way you think.
Okay, you got it.
You got it.
God bless you, and have a very, very merry Christmas.
You also thank you.
All right.
Let's go now.
Let's bring on my buddy, Scott Eulinger.
Um, for those folks that uh, you know, I could tout my background all you want.
I've done a lot of different things.
Um this guy has a resume that is uh shockingly amazing, uh naval officer, CIA operations officer, and chief of station uh in the CIA, and he is um somebody that I turn to when I want my opinion validated uh because I think something is you know, I'm like, I think this is what's going on.
I think this isn't right what they're saying in the media.
I turn to Scott Eulinger and um more than often he says yes, you're right, but he also tells me when I'm wrong.
So hey Scott, thanks for coming on, my friend.
Hey, thanks, Jonathan.
I I just wanted to I wanted to compliment you on some of your recent Twitter.
I think you're you're really going a little Jonathan Livingston Seagull on me a little bit.
You know, you you've got you've got some pretty uh interesting quotes here.
Actually, I mean they're very nice.
Uh circumstances in life that appear hopeless are the same locations in space and time where you will find faith.
I mean, that's very you've got a gift for a turn of phrase, Jonathan.
That's really nice stuff.
I appreciate it.
You know what's interesting about that, Scott, is that I come upon these uh thoughts at night.
I talk to people, uh people uh tweet me or or friends that are having hard times, and I sit there and it never fails right before I'm going to sleep.
I get you know, that's when I get creative.
And um it's uh a true blessing that I had because people you what you think, and I I really do recommend people do this, when you're having a hard time or you've been through a hard time and you see people doing things, make a little meme up, put it out there, and you will be amazed.
One person will say thank you, and then it'll be five, and before you know, like a hundred, two hundred people are written in and they're saying, you know, that I I woke up and saw this today and it changed my day.
Because people, you know, when they're when they're in tough times, it it means a lot.
So I I appreciate you noticing that.
Right.
Uh just and and this there's one other thing.
I gotta share this for the listeners because it it's from Chuck Yeager has uh you know, tweets out, you know, General Chuck Yeager, the break of the sound barrier.
And he wrote this, you know, this is for those people who would complain about you know their lot in life.
Okay, listen to this one.
On this day, I guess, on December 12th in 1953, I went dunk hunting early morning.
I test flew the X1A past mock two, tumbled on all three axes, was knocked out by hitting my head on the canopy, recovered, went home, changed into a black tie, went out with my wife Glenis to a banquet in LA and gave a talk.
I was tired.
No, no, no, yeah, that's now that's inspiring to me.
When I read that in the morning and and you know that that's inspiring to read.
If you're having problems sleeping at night, I recommend living a life like that.
You probably won't have any problem sleeping at night.
That's right.
So let's let's talk about modern day events here.
Let's talk about the reality of you know, we could talk all day, every day, if we really wanted to get into it.
We could have a show that was 24 hours long and have legal experts and all these people come in here and talk about government and the FISA stuff and Comey and uh whether Trump was in uh Russia investigation.
What what I like about talking to you about this is that you have ran intel operations on other countries.
And in your opinion, I've asked this before.
Um when you look at the the Trump Russia investigation, and and there's a lot of liberals and leftists that listen to this show, they'd love to they probably listen to Sean Hannity's show closer than anybody else.
They and they pick it apart.
But the reality, I want you to educate them.
How close does this mimic when you look at the media, when you look at the behavior of people like uh Comey and Mueller and the Democrats and Brennan and all these people, how closely does this mimic something that you would have done to another country?
Yeah, it very very much so.
Um that's what I saw in other countries working against other intel services is how they were so tied up in knots with their own internal political conflicts, they were useless to defend their own national security.
And unfortunately, that's kind of the direction we seem to be going in, whether it's the FBI where you worked, the CIA where I worked, I mean, where the it's become so politicized, and these people are very poor role models, they're breaking laws, they're they're breaking certainly the spirit of laws and and they're creating a demoralized workforce, and that's going to be less effective national security for for all of us, for all listeners, and and that's a terrible thing.
And you know, the rank and file people are incensed at this kind of conduct because like everyone who listens, there's a dual standard.
If you're higher up in the government hierarchy, there's one set of rules, and if you're a worker bee like we were, or just a regular citizen on the street, there's a different set of rules, and people are tired of that.
And what we're seeing every day with more whether it's um, you know, with Comey's latest testimony or whatnot, is the same type of thing incompetence, lack of accountability, and people who never seem to have to answer for what they do wrong.
Now, when you look at somebody like the way Cohen is acting, um and saying the things that he says about the the fact that you know he had unbridled devotion uh to the president, when you look at the way he acts, when you look at the way other people that are traditionally brought forward uh in these especial uh prosecutors um grasp, don't they is it just me or do they act exactly like a source that you have trapped?
I'm not gonna say intrap.
In trap means that it's fake evidence or fake case.
I'm talking about where you trapped him.
They did something wrong and you got them.
And so you flip them, and then they start saying what the the monologue that you want them to say.
And doesn't that sound like them?
I know you've ran sources.
Oh, yeah, very much so, yeah, very much so.
Certainly with um with our our good friend uh Cohen, yeah, we're definitely we're definitely seeing that.
But what we're seeing with someone like uh Comey in the FBI, I mean, you talk you know, you've been treating a lot about lack of leadership, and I mean you couldn't be closer.
I mean, that's absolutely what we've got here.
I mean, he's in front of the Congress and he is the former director of the FBI, and he's talking about an investigation that was not run out of Topeka, but was in fact run out of Washington.
And he says things like, he's not sure how the steel dossier got to the FBI.
Now I'm sorry, I refuse to believe that that man is that incompetent.
That is perjury.
That has got to be perjury.
Yeah, and he doesn't know how the FBI verified the steel dossier.
I mean, this is this is inconceivable coming from the director of the FBI.
If this was in Japan, this guy would have committed ritualized suicide by having just embarrassed him and his entire family line.
And and what about this, okay?
What about the fact that when you when you look at uh all the things that these people are doing and the the way that they act, as I was saying before, um, very similar to sources and very similar to the way you would run a counterintelligence operation.
Um what is typically an outcome of something that you're doing when you you know the outcome of the missions when you had these counter intel operations when you were pressing a political thing, you're running a source.
You know, we can almost sit here, I think, and predict the movements that Mueller and and Comey and all these other people that you wrote about, uh John Brennan, how they will maneuver and how they will act, because it's almost it's uh almost predictable because they have to move that way to counter against Trump.
That's right, and especially people like yourself, people like Dan Bongino, who was in the Secret Service, myself, we've been in the government Long enough to kind of understand the way they think and the moves that they will undertake.
Exactly.
And so that's why, you know, uh my latest uh article on this is at newsmax.com.
And um, but I've been writing about this off and on, amongst other things, for more than two years.
And the minute that Trump first said that Trump Tower was bugged, unquote, quote unquote, was when I knew that that almost certainly it was true.
And what we found out is that it is exactly true.
And then what we also see is pathetic is we see all of these, uh, whether it's Comey or Brennan or people like Samantha Power, they they have this this um they try to take a moral high ground when these people are the most amoral reprobates out there.
I mean, like John Brennan is a mastermind, you know, is was the mastermind behind using foreign intel services against the Trump campaign.
And the guy's has this invective on Twitter against the president that is unbelievable.
And it's clearly a case as you and I have both seen of somebody projecting their own guilt and corruption onto other people.
It well, I don't even know it's if it's projection as much as it is a Solinsky a communist.
They they always give Solinsky the credit for these tactics, but this is counterintel 101.
Listen, Scott, let's take a break.
We're gonna come back.
I'm gonna hold you over the break.
We're gonna come back and finish uh with this conversation.
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Now, when we were when we left, we were talking about the reality of how much this case in my eyes is similar to one of the intel operations that you would have ran against another country.
And so, with with that being said, when you look at um the way that the special counsel uses these people, not going after people who uh they think are necessarily guilty because there's definitely what they want.
You can see it.
They're climbing a ladder to get to Trump.
And so they pick people um strictly to flip them.
And that's right.
I want you to explain to people how much of a sticky situation that is.
Because when you when you flip somebody and by flipping them, I mean you put them in a when you catch them having done something wrong.
In the case of Cohen or these people, it may not have anything to do with uh the Rush investigation at all.
But they use that leverage to get them to say what they want them to say.
And that is dangerous because what happens then?
You are miles away from justice.
That's right.
I mean someone like Paul Matafort was what they they were bringing him up on some finance fraud charges from eight or nine years ago.
That has nothing to do with Russia that has nothing to do with the Trump campaign.
But that's what they did to leverage pressure on him so he would basically give them the story that they wanted.
And they did the same thing with General Flynn.
I mean there's been some stories recently about uh the way the FBI acted around General Flynn and it was absolutely disgraceful and unethical.
Perhaps it was uh a violation of the law but I mean they urged him not to have an attorney there because oh well we just want to have an informal talk.
And then they took the informal talk as a way of setting you know a three star general up you know and that's and and so then of course people like uh us, the listeners think, all right, if they're willing to do that to a three star general why wouldn't they be willing to do that to John Q Citizen out on the street.
It would be a much easier task.
Now you said something in the last segment we were talking um and it I wanted to bring this back up because if you and I, you were talking about can you imagine a director of the FBI doing some of the things that he's done.
You would never think when you're working in there that these people are going to do these things, right?
You're busy working on the street, you're a street guy, you're doing investigations, you're running sources, and and you're told don't you know screw around with emails, don't text anything inappropriate, don't have anything to do with the press, don't talk to foreign uh foreign agents that is and and we would go to jail for that stuff or fired at the least.
Absolutely.
And they have done they're doing all that.
That's right.
Another thing they're doing so not only are they going to prow of the what was that you got about 30 about 20 seconds.
Right.
But also it it hurts the reputation of the FBI and CIA.
It makes it more difficult for the FBI and CIA to do its job like the word on the street is that the leaders are incompetent.
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Now a lot of people have been asking where is Sean today?
Why is Jonathan Gillam hosting?
Well I'll tell you why.
Sean is doing an amazing interview with the first lady tonight which is why he isn't here today and you can watch that tonight on Fox News channel at 9 p.m to see Sean and his exclusive special interview with the first lady the lovely Melania Trump go and watch that tonight.
But now let's shift gears a little bit it's you know it's interesting when I say shift gears.
It seems like everything we talk about in government these days comes down to Trump good, Trump bad, and uh Trump involvement with Russia and uh some kind of allegations that are being pushed this way or that way nothing he can do.
I think what he did yesterday in his press conference was the greatest act of leadership publicly that I have seen in my lifetime and I'm 49.
It's the I think what he did yesterday with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, it was ultimate transparency and ultimate ownership of uh how the government should be ran in his job as the basically the CEO of this country.
But when we look beyond that leadership that was shown yesterday, and we look beyond the SESs, the senior executive service members who are so corrupted in this government, and we look beyond the worry that government is going to do things to you and collect information on you.
What we see is a leftist ideology, and you just heard some of it there in the uh the documentary uh portion of the documentary that was aired there.
Um what you see is a leftist ideology that permeates social media, search engines, um, all these different ways that people can watch you.
And when I was in the FBI, one of the things that always stood out to me was when we wanted information on somebody, we didn't go to the government to get that.
We didn't go to the NSA to get that information.
We went to the phone companies that subpoenaed them.
We went to Facebook, we went to Google, and that's who we subpoenaed to get the real information from.
And guess what?
There is no laws that are hurt that are hoarding over them as to what they can keep and can't keep about you.
You search it, it's there.
So joining me now.
I mean, one one of my I think one of the people who's doing some of the best work it there is to watch our government and to pick out these things that uh different people are doing that are so corrupt, it would spin the minds of our founding fathers if they saw what was going on.
Uh Peter Schweitzer, he's author of Secret Empire's How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends and presidents of the government and president of the government accountability institute.
And he also created the documentary, The Creepy Line.
I mean, you've done listen, I could sit here and for this entire segment I could tell you what Peter Schweitzer has done.
Um so I'm glad to have you here.
You're doing really amazing work, Peter.
Well, thank you.
It's uh it's uh great to be on with you, and uh I just uh I appreciate all that you're doing for the country as well.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Now let me ask you I'm sure you heard what I was saying there.
When when I was in the FBI, when we go get subpoenas for information, people are always worried about what the NSA has.
They don't think about what Google has.
They don't think about what the phone companies have.
And they have a better um people that buy information from them can put together a better uh profile of who you are than anything the government could probably ever come up with.
No, that's exactly right.
And uh, you know, the the best way to think about this, I think, is to the extent that these tech companies can do something for you, they can do something to you.
So in other words, they can do a lot of things for you.
They can give us targeted advertising, they they know what we're interested in.
They track our movements and they give us these mapping uh applications that that help navigate, which is all great stuff, but they can do those things because they are collecting huge amounts of information on us, and they can use that information against us.
And I think that's the biggest thing that people have to realize.
You you you encounter some people, you talk to them, and they'll say, you know, well, I don't care if they have that information because they're just you know, they're they're selling the ads.
They're doing more than that.
They're nudging you, they're manipulating you, they're using that information against you, and it's really not even a point of debate anymore.
With all the leaks that have come out of Google, we now know that this is exactly what they are doing.
They talk about it openly, they debate it within Google how to do it most effectively.
Uh, they do it for political reasons, they do it for ideological reasons.
The point of the fact is that they are using your own for information and data against you to try to steer you or manipulate you to go in a direction that you ordinarily would not go.
Right.
You know, it's interesting.
Um over the past I guess five years since I've been uh hosting this show and some others as the guests coming on and hosting, I you know, my social media has grown, right?
And what's interesting, the first time I did this show, I was relatively unknown.
I'd been on Fox News a little bit, um, and uh Sean asked me and Linda asked me to come over here, and the first show I did, my Twitter went up three thousand in three hours.
Now, when I host this show, my Twitter maybe will go up three hundred.
Yeah.
Now, there's all these talks about shadow banning.
Um I look on Facebook, you know, I was one of those people I did a a show every night.
I had my own social media show I did on Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, and within three really I'd say three weeks, but it's really about a week and a half, I went from reaching a million people a night, 750,000, a million people a night on my Facebook show, The Experts on Facebook, to reaching 1,500.
And I got banned on YouTube because I criticize David Hogg.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, this is this goes on regularly and consistently, and the leaks that have come out relating to Google, but also the information that comes out from Twitter is it's very clear.
You have employees at these high-tech companies, they only want certain points of view pushed.
Uh, and it's the same thing we see on college campuses, you know, where they only want certain people uh shouted down or blocked.
Um and that but the differences and the challenge is in the tech world, you don't know what you don't know.
So, you know, in your case, you saw that suddenly, wait a minute, my my audience is ten percent of was it what it was before.
I didn't say anything or do anything that turned off that audience.
Somebody has turned off or or dramatically reduced the spigot.
So you know, the number of people that that are exposed to what I'm saying is a lot smaller than it was.
Well, you only know that if you're paying attention, and you can only detect that if you do detective work.
So unlike the the person on a college campus who gets shouted down, it's visible.
People can see it on video and see that the censorship is going on.
This censorship is worse because it's hidden, it's mysterious, it's hard to detect.
And that's what I think makes these tech companies so powerful.
Google has 90% of search in the United States.
Facebook is the dominant social platform, Twitter is is you know the dominant uh in in in terms of uh you know, messaging and and uh uh you know what they do.
And the simple fact of the matter is is that they can choose to turn off the spigot any time.
They do it regularly, they basically do it to one side, and you don't really know that it's going on.
It's this this hidden shadow censorship uh that that is extremely troubling, and I think requires that we force these tech companies to make a choice.
They tell us they are neutral platforms, and therefore they are regulated as neutral platforms uh according to the communications decency act, but they're not neutral platforms.
They edit, they censor, they censor one side, and so I think it's time for Congress to take a fresh look at how Google and Facebook and these platforms are really dealt with by our Congress.
And I think the hearings that were held yesterday with a Google CEO going in there and and bobbing and weaving and frankly lying, uh, is the first step that we need to take to move in this direction.
So I'm gonna take a break here, but I'm gonna pose something to you real quick.
I just want to say this and see what you think we come back.
Um, you know, there was a commercial out recently about uh uh on CNN where they talked about an apple versus a banana said this is this is an apple, it's not a banana, you know what, yada yada yada.
I think what is happening here with social media and with the media in general is that they're not trying to get you to determine or lie to you say that this is an apple when it's a banana.
They're trying to get you confused about what's a Fuji apple and a red delicious apple because you're not an expert on apples.
So they'll tell you that this is a red delicious apple when it's really a Fuji apple.
The the concept of saying that this is a banana, people aren't gonna get that.
I don't know if people saw that commercial.
You can look it up on YouTube, it's really stupid.
But um we're gonna get your comments on that, and and I'll explain that a little bit more when we come back.
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Uh he is the author of Secret Empire's How American Political Class Hides Corruption and Entrenches Family and Friends.
And he's the president of the Government Accountability Institute and the creator of the documentary, The Creepy Line, which uh is it just me or is it the executives that work it at uh Google?
I watched, you know, when they had that uh woe is me, the President Trump is one.
I watched that when uh when uh I think it was leaked on Bright Bart.
Um they're some strange individuals.
And they constantly talk about these values.
What are these values?
Right, right.
Well, and they and they operate uh under the assumption that when they use the term values, their values are universal values, and everybody shares them.
And if you don't share them, there's something wrong with you.
Uh and I think this is the classic definition of a bubble.
But you know, this is I think uh you you touch on a very important point here.
Uh, you know, those videos demonstrate it, the way that these companies operate demonstrate it.
People who say to me, well, you know, look, Google and Facebook, they would never do anything in this area, you know, political or in terms of censorship, that would ever affect their customers because they're businesses and they want to please their customers, and they're all about the bottom line.
Um and look, most companies operate that way, but but Google in particular, uh, from the beginning has always said that that is not their ultimate goal, that they have ultimate goals that involve transforming society.
They talk about the fact that one of their goals or corporate goals are to uh shift uh values in our country.
Um and the way that the company is set up, uh, the the voting shares are all controlled pretty much by the founders.
So if you buy Google stock, you you don't really have a vote in how the company is run.
So it's important for people to know that these companies do have a mission that goes beyond just making money, and that mission oftentimes uh deals with their views that there are all these problems with American society, there's all these problems with Americans, and it's their job uh to kind of nudge us or move us or manipulate us to go in the direction that they want us to go.
Uh they don't want to say that explicitly, but when you watch those videos, it's so very apparent that that's the way they do things, and they say that openly, at least in those meetings.
So people need to recognize these are not companies that we associate uh oftentimes with just being about the bottom line.
They're about a lot more than that.
So I you know, we I know you wanted to talk a little bit about the Snap program.
Um unfortunately we have a 30 seconds on that.
So here's what I'm gonna do for you.
If you want me to do this, I'm gonna come back and talk about this because I'm reading this and I'm shocked by it.
If you want to stay over, I'll do that.
Sure, that sounds great.
So why don't we just do that?
We're gonna take a break here in just a minute, and uh and we got about 30 seconds left.
So I'll just put you on hold, Peter Schweitzer.
You want to stay tuned because this is kind of something that's shocking as I was reading about this.
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I'm sorry Jonathan.
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And this is Jonathan Gill.
I'm filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity.
And you can catch his special tonight, 9 p.m. when he's interviewing the first lady, the lovely Melania Trump on Fox News.
Go watch that tonight, and then he'll be back, I guess, tomorrow.
And right now I held over Peter Schweitzer.
And uh Peter, you know, you wanted to talk a little bit about the SNAP program, and that's the supplemental nutrition assistance program.
Everybody's probably thinking right now, oh, that's not going to be interesting because we're gonna talk about you know, basically uh uh the food program.
But the reality is there's a huge turn here in this.
There is.
Um, and really I think the reason it's important to talk about this today is on Congress, they're they're passing the ag bill, which is basically a five-year bill, and you'd think, well, what does the food stamps have to do with the ag bill?
Well, it's it's it's part of it, and there really are no meaningful reforms at all to the program.
And and here's the bottom line.
When when people think about fraud in the food stamp program, they think about the person, you know, who's who's selling their EBT card or you know, who's buying lobster tails or whatever with their EBT card.
The problem is a lot bigger than that, because the real problem is that in the EBT economy, these cards that are being passed out, you've now got terrorist groups, you've got criminal gangs like MS 13 uh that are laundering large amounts of money through EBT cards.
And there's some very basic reforms that could be implemented uh by Congress, um, requiring photo IDs, for example, on EBT cards that could deal with this problem, but they've made no reforms.
And so we are literally as taxpayers uh funding this program, which then is being used by terrorist organizations and is sending money overseas to places like Lebanon and Somalia to fund terrorist organizations, and Congress thus far is not doing a thing about it.
Now, this is very you know when you look in the legal system, when you look at the totality of the circumstances, right?
That's really how you can determine guilt most of the times.
Right.
You just look at one thing, it may give a bad picture.
Like we just look at this, we say, we may say, Oh, well, you know, that's a mistake.
That's it's it's an oversight that Congress is so busy that they don't see this.
But when we look at the fact okay, you got this, what you just said, and then there's there's I learned this earlier uh this year that there are DOD databases, right?
When when they go on, they do exploitations on site and they take a guy down, or somebody puts an IED and they go and they follow, maybe they arrest uh the whole family or whatever and they fingerprint these people.
Those fingerprints is go into a database, a DOD database, and that database is never shared with the State Department.
So you have you have people in Djibouti and other places that come through.
Uh they can't come through certain countries um uh uh like uh uh I don't know, I think Syria has a a problem with it.
It's other countries over there uh in Africa as well, and Somalia's one.
So they go through other places.
If they even are fingerprinted, it's done with ink and paper.
They come over here, they're never ran through those databases until like ten years later when they come up for a uh for their final uh check on their um the validation of where they've been gone.
They're nowhere to be found.
And when you look at these databases, all there's tons of these people, over 400, that have popped on things that have happened on a target in the Middle East.
Yeah, no, this this is this is a hugely important point you're making here, and and it applies in the EBT program.
The biggest problem with EBT fraud and money going to terrorist organizations or criminal gangs in the United States is with EBT vendors.
And vendors are people that can take EBT cards, and of course, big companies like Walmart and grocery store chains are EBT vendors, and that's great.
I mean, we want people who have a need for that need to be met.
But here's the problem.
There are lots of vendors, you know, little small mini marts that are actually fronts for these kinds of criminal activities.
And guess what?
To your point, the federal government doesn't even Really do criminal background checks on people to become EBT vendors.
I mean, how outrageous is that.
And in fact, it was a case of a guy who um did millions of dollars of fraudulent EBT transactions in Alabama, went to jail for three years.
Now, of course, it's a financial crime, so you're going to club Fed, you're not going to uh a hardcore prison.
But he got out, and what did he do?
He moved to Florida and he became an EBT vendor again and did the same thing.
And there was no criminal background check done, so this guy was able to replicate it and do it again.
These are the kinds of basic reforms that Congress ought to be insisting on.
They're basic common sense reforms, and right now Congress is voting on the ag bill, um, and there's no nothing in this bill that addresses any of these basic issues.
So when I'm talking about, and I know you get this, when I talk about the totality of the circumstances, I'm looking at what you're talking about, and and you mix that with this database where it's just not being fixed.
It's getting pointed out, it's not being fixed.
You look at immigration and how Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer wouldn't even talk about it in public yesterday.
It said they kept saying, we want to talk and we want to debate this in private.
When you when you look at these things, the amount and here's another one for you.
Locally, people say, Oh, these Lucy cigarettes, no big deal.
You know, when people sell these most of them are counterfeit cigarettes.
A lot of that money goes to fund terrorism.
And when we look at the millions of dollars, and when we look at the ease at which this is being done, I from an investigative standpoint, you know, Peter, I have to say that the evidence points to people knowing and turning a blind eye to it, and that makes no sense to me.
No, I well, I agree.
And you know, this is the classic problem we face, and I think the reason that you're seeing this populism in the United States, whether it's President Trump or whether it's Bernie Sanders on the left, people realize that our elite institutions are failing us.
And part of the problem is that a lot of these elites, they live in gated communities, they have personal security, they're protected, so they don't have to deal with the ramifications of a lot of these issues.
The ramifications are the consequences of this misconduct are borne by the rest of us who live out in real America, who live in homes, who don't have personal security details.
Um, and that's one of the reasons we have this disconnect.
And I think that's why you're seeing what you're seeing uh uh you know across Europe and in the United States.
The notion that these are these are pretty simple problems to fix.
I'm not saying that they're gonna be a silver bullet that solves EBT fraud for good, but these are basic simple steps that could be taken, and they just are not interested in moving in that direction.
And they're not going to unless they realize and understand that the American people want these changes and are prepared to vote accordingly.
Yeah.
Listen, let me ask you real quick before I got to let you go.
Um, first off, let me ask you what can be done about this.
Let me ask you that first.
Well, we've we worked with people uh who deal with EBT fraud in Florida and California, and they said there are a number of things that can be done.
One is criminal background checks for EBT vendors.
Second thing is have photo IDs.
Have an EBT card that has your picture on it.
Um that way you can't sell it to somebody else for fifty cents on the dollar and they can use it for whatever.
Those are two basic reforms uh that can be done.
The other thing is, well, let me say this real quick.
Let me say this real quick.
Photo IDs are evil, don't you know that?
I mean, they they don't they don't want us to be identified when we vote.
They sure as heck don't want you identified when you're trying to get food stamps.
Right.
They exactly.
Even even if it's leading to all this criminal activity, yeah, we don't want to do that.
And that's one of the points I think where where you'd have the vast majority of the American people would support it.
Um and yet they simply don't want to do it.
Yeah.
Now here's the other thing I want to ask you is when are you gonna write um the follow-up to Clinton Cash, and we need you to do uh research and do a book on or a documentary, because your documentaries are are just as great on the senior executive service.
I really believe that that the that 7,000 people belong to that, and I believe that is where we find these people that are entrenched.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, no, uh listen, I think that is an area, the the the so-called deep state uh that needs to be investigated.
I I cannot go into detail now.
Sean knows a little bit about it, but but we have uh a major active investigation that's going on now.
I can't go into details about it.
We've been on it for three months, and we're probably gonna be finishing it up um you know late summer next year, but it's gonna be a major, major uh story that I think is going to surprise a lot of people.
You ever need me for anything, you call because I believe a hundred percent in what you're doing.
I mean, there's you know, where there's a couple groups out there now that are doing things that we look at these um these Office of Inspector Generals, um, and we look at uh the the DOJ and literally you guys are doing more than any of them when it comes to looking into this stuff.
It's my it's shocking.
Well, I appreciate that.
You know, just to to to sample that, in my book, Secret Empires, we expose the Biden's relationship with the Chinese government and their financial ties.
The New York Times just dropped a couple of hours ago a major story on exactly that subject to the Biden family uh getting money from Chinese government connected corporations while he was vice president.
So we take pride in the fact that we're ahead of the curve.
Uh we do deep dive research, we don't do quick hits, and so you won't hear from us for some time, but then all of a sudden we'll pop up and we'll have something major for people to see.
I'm okay with that.
You just keep doing what you're doing.
Thank you very much, uh Peter.
We really do appreciate it.
Uh, Peter is president of the Government Accountability Institute and go look him up.
Peter, where can they find you at?
Then go to cronyism.com or cronyism.org, and that's our website.
You got it.
Thank you, brother.
Thank you very much for all that you do for this country.
This is Jonathan Gill, I'm filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity.
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You know, folks, I gotta tell you, it's been a this has been a great show.
It it's amazing how much information is out there when you get together experts uh in certain fields, how much you can really see through the nonsense that is put out there in media.
And uh my good buddies uh that were out that that came on earlier to talk about Sean Gallagher.
I really think that everybody needs to start putting some weight on the Jag Corps out there in San Diego, and and I just have to throw this out there.
I don't want to disparage anybody that's in a chain of command in the in the uh naval special warfare.
But I will question Naval Special Warfare Group Two Commodore and the command master chief.
Where are you?
Why isn't Eddie going and getting his medical treatment done?
Why is it that he's being held in pretrial when he has no imminent threat?
There's no uh there's been no proof that Eddie has any imminent threat to the public at large.
Why is he being held uh and why was he arrested on September 11th?
But anyway, it's it's beyond me.
And I think people need to start looking in that.
I call upon all frogmen, present and past, to stand up for uh your brother Eddie Gallagher, because here's the deal, folks.
Here's the deal, men.
Uh, it may be you next time.
It may be you.
And I've seen a bad day in the teams or a bad day in the military, and it goes from zero to a thousand real fast.
And mostly because people are trying to protect their careers or their egos are in the way.
And I do believe that the prosecution in this case, that that is what's happening.
I think that it is just uh beyond, it's beyond the justice system and what it was created for, and it infuriates me.
And I'll do everything I can to help clear Eddie's name.
Now, I want to talk to you real quick uh before we go uh for the end of the show.
You know, my book Sheep No More that Dorothy was getting on to me about for talking about too much.
Um I wrote that book over a 10-year period.
You know, I kept notes about all the things that I was seeing.
I saw that law enforcement gets this and the military gets that uh when they they understand certain aspects of how attackers think.
I saw that the general public has a huge disconnect between law enforcement and their protection.
People have just gotten to a point where, especially in the big cities, they just assume that law enforcement is going to take care of them.
And that's not the case.
And so when I wrote this book, what I did was I created a uh a manual for you so that you can divide your life up into sectors.
I I explain how attackers think and how they plan.
I show you how to divide your life into sectors and how to look at every sector from the attacker's point of view, looking at your vulnerabilities, your critical areas, your critical times, the avenues of approach that attacker may take, so that you can then build better defenses and understand the real defense mindset.
And so I'm I want to announce to y'all, because this is what's going to happen.
The book uh has been on sale for a year.
It's been a bestseller for a year.
I'm a first-time author that never happens.
And why is that?
Because there's a need for it and people want it.
And secondly, um, I am coming out with workbooks.
Um, there's going to be the uh the target assessment workbook, which is basically showing you how to divide your life up.
Uh, and then you're gonna take Sheep No More, the original book and the knowledge you gain in there, and then you're gonna apply it to this uh workbook, the threat assessment workbook, and then what you'll do is the second workbook will show you how to assess your defenses.
You take all the information that you put in the threat assessment workbook, and you will put that into the defense assessment workbook, and I can guarantee you, if you're a principal, if you're a mayor, if you're the president, or if you're just a parent, this is going to change your life in the way that you see and protect yourself.
This is Jonathan Gillum.
That's Sheep No More, the art of awareness and attack survival.
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