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They have some small aftershocks, which are to be expected.
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Um well, we finally Have apparently what is the top of Pelosi's agenda.
Legislation to force Donald Trump to release his tax returns.
Okay, let me just stop you right there.
That's not gonna happen.
Ever.
And all this this is it.
It's gonna, they're gonna dig their heels in.
Let me make a big prediction.
And I know the media was so giddy over Michael Cohn yesterday.
And there's nothing to be giddy about.
Nothing.
You know, because it's going nowhere.
It doesn't impact.
There was no surprise about uh a Moscow project that was widely publicized everywhere that never ever happened.
My favorite story was one that came out that said, yeah, and there was a proposal and there were discussions that maybe Vladimir Putin would get a 50,000, 50 million dollar penthouse, so that the other Russian oligarchs would want to buy into the Trump Moscow Tower.
I'm like, okay, none of it happened.
And then you read a little bit more of the details, and the proposal apparently was that Russian banks were going to be funding this whole thing.
It's ridiculous.
Anyway, so polls were taken before the midterms, repeatedly showing top issues for the American people, the economy, health care, immigration, trade, terrorism.
But the first item on Nancy Pelosi's legislative agenda is nothing to do with the top five issues that might actually help the American people.
No, right out of the box.
She wants a piece of legislation that will force President Trump to release his tax returns.
That's what you voted for?
Okay.
They're going to overreach.
It's going to be nonstop.
It's going to be endless attacks.
And, you know, with their deep state partners, and all of which is going to do nothing, absolutely nothing to make life better for any one American.
And that's the point.
It would require presidents to disclose their tax returns.
The bill would also seek to create a new ethical code for Supreme Court and require all political organizations to reveal information about their donors.
How about they do it?
Congress doesn't do that.
And it would create, you know, really?
Why don't you lead by example in the first place?
And Pelosi pledged the legislation would be the very first bill Congress will tackle in January.
This class has told us that this is what the people want to see.
It's not what the people want to see.
That's what the crazy resistance wants to see.
You know, it's funny.
You just watch the watch everything here.
We're living in dangerous times.
You know, Muller now apparently so angry that he can't bribe Paul Manafort with less jail time, and so angry that Jerome Corsi can't be bribed with a get out of jail free card signing something, uh, an affidavit saying that he did something that he says he did not do.
You know, look, I ask any of you, Matt, just put yourself in a situation where two years ago, height of an election, you care about your country, you want one candidate to win.
You live, eat, breathe, sleep politics like I do.
Some people live, eat, breathe, sleep, sports.
Some people live, eat, breathe, sleep, dancing, or whatever you like to do, but I happen to think politics is the most important.
And, you know, so do you remember what you wrote back in 2016 before the election?
And you don't, you hand over your computer, you don't have access to your emails anymore.
It's not like you can refresh your memory and say, go, all right, what was I writing?
What was I saying then?
And then a special counsel, including Clinton's former attorney in the room.
Little irony there, a little bit of corruption there, a little bit of conflict of interest there with Genie Ray and others saying, well, you asking, well, do you remember the Roger Stone ever ask you to contact WikiLeaks?
And no, I don't remember.
Here's the email.
Look, look, you liar.
And that's what they do.
And they that and Corsi, so I'll let me look at it.
Yeah, I think I'm I'm I have a vague recollection of it now that I see it.
Is that so?
Is that so odd to you?
You're 72 years old.
I don't know how many 72-year-olds have perfect memories.
I'm 56 and I don't have a perfect memory.
Jeez.
And so you have now the persecution, a political persecution going on.
And now, in the case of Manafort, it looks like Mueller wants to take revenge against Manafort.
Mana, How old is Manafort?
He's in his late 60s, isn't he?
Is he 70?
I don't know how old the guy is.
What are you going to put him in jail?
Let him die in jail.
Such a big threat to society, they wouldn't even let the guy out on bail on his own recognizance.
This guy was no, he wasn't gonna jump bail.
But they put him in solitary confinement for how long?
This is now a persecution.
And we went through in all the horrible detail last night.
This is the biggest abuse of power, double standard corruption scandal in history.
That is what it's always been.
It's gone on for 562 days, desperate to get any dirt connection.
It looks like they're going at it from two different areas.
What happened in the Trump Tower meeting when everybody there corroborated and even notes afterwards and text and emails afterwards corroborated that it was about Russian adoption.
Had nothing to do with dirt.
So Michael Cohn said one thing before the Senate, then is saying another thing now, and some people saying, well, he's not doing it to get a course he's doing it to benefit himself.
And I'm not even gonna say, I don't even cast judgments on him.
This guy is facing and his family has been through hell.
And I'm um I couldn't do it, but you know, some people, you know, you gotta make your own decisions here.
And, you know, but the destroy Trump media, and I love it, the anonymous sources.
I love the penthouse story.
Um we now that there was another story out about this penthouse.
The White House said, that is the nuttiest thing we've ever heard about a project that never happened.
A project that never got off the ground.
No, no Trump assets or organization investments were ever made.
And the Trump organization owns no buildings in Russia.
They do in other countries to look at it.
That's what his job was.
That was what his business is.
And even if he did build a Trump tower in Moscow, there would have been nothing illegal about it.
Nothing.
And in 2017, the project was widely reported everywhere.
All the mainstream media.
But it's not a new story.
But that they don't care.
They're pumping this up for whatever they breathless hysteria.
All right, Rush, let's go back to Russia, Russia, Russia.
Then we'll go back to Stormy Stormy Stormy.
Then we'll go back to shhole shall, and we'll go back to that.
Uh-uh.
And this is what the media does.
When have they ever talked about any of the president's accomplishments?
It's always just it's like a revolving circle of topics and conspiracy theories.
But if you put aside even the conspiratorial reporting from the media, even if Michael Cohn's changed timeline was true.
He said, Well, we stopped having discussions originally before the Senate in January of 2016.
Now he's saying it was June of 2016.
It doesn't matter.
None of it is illegal.
And what happened, by the way, in this case to attorney client privilege.
Is that now dead?
That's not, that's nothing we we consider anymore as an ethical obligation?
Apparently not, especially when you're not talking about a crime.
There's been zero evidence of Trump Russia collusion.
None.
They know there's no collusion.
And now they're just desperate to create images and find any way they can mention Russia.
Because if they indict, you know, Russian intelligence service members that they know are never coming to the United States, they get to say, well, we we just indicted 30 Russians in this important, you know, attempt to create chaos in our electoral system.
Well, that's been going on for election after election after election.
Devin Nunes warned everybody Obama laughed it off and said to Donald Trump, stop whining.
And it happened on his watch, not Donald Trump's watch.
In case anybody's interested.
Nobody cares or seems to care about the bought and paid-for Clinton Russian dossier full of lies.
How many people heard that that there were hookers in a in a Hotel room at the Ritz in Moscow, and these hookers in Trump's room were urinating on the bed.
I mean, it's the guy doesn't even stand by his own dossier.
And then we got the uranium one story.
Remember that?
I mean, think about this.
We I actually interviewed, we had within Putin's network in the United States.
They wanted to get a foothold in the uranium industry.
Remember this story?
And he, the FBI informant that it infiltrated Putin's group, saw bribery, extortion, money laundering, kickbacks.
Remember Rastacom and all that?
And remember all the money and Killary Clinton, one of what, seven agencies, nine agencies that had to sign off on the deal, and all the people associated with that deal kicking back millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation.
Muller had the information from his informant and still American Uranium.
They still got 20% of American uranium, the foundational material for nuclear weapons.
Bill Clinton still got his $500,000 speaking fee in Russia.
Wonder if there are any hookers in his room.
Wonder if he was staying at the Ritz in Moscow.
And all of that, by the way, twice his normal speaking fee.
Had to get his wife's own State Department permission to actually do that.
He met directly with Vladimir Putin when he was there.
Putin wanted to corner the uranium market here.
Slick Willie.
That was back in 2009.
Guess who the FBI director is?
Robert Muller.
And the FBI has a spy.
He's telling them all this corrupt stuff is going on, they do nothing.
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All these people, Senate Judiciary Committee, they are so outraged over the possibility that and the allegations that Judge Kavanaugh in high school 36 years prior may have assaulted somebody.
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needed to be investigated taken seriously they were and then the flood of allegations come out including Avenatti and and you know systematically almost on a weekend basis drugging young teenage girls boys lining up in the halls waiting to gang rape these teenage girls and in all that time nobody told a mother a father a priest a pastor a rabbi or a teacher anything didn't make sense and then
an evolving story into well I didn't see him put anything in the punch I just saw him walking around with a red solo cup near the punch bowl and he wasn't waiting in line but I saw him in a hall I mean, it just is unbelievable.
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It's a presumption of innocence.
And he's passionately denied any of this stuff is true.
Guess now he's having a falling out with Stormy.
Stormy claiming that he filed a lawsuit against her wishes, then not usually a good idea to do stuff like that.
You usually have to listen to what your client says to do.
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Well, it's the same thing here.
If they really cared in 2009 about Russia, especially Russian officials working on behalf of Putin, trying to get a foothold in the
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Oh, I guess it's not Russia they really care about, or Clinton's phony dossier that was used to spread lies about Trump and the lead up to the 2016 election.
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Now I don't even know what to make of this story, but I'm going to give it to you, and we'll have more information for you tonight because well, let me tell you the story and I'll tell you why.
So incredible story, the Daily Caller broke it.
They've been doing great work.
Really great work for a long time now.
They don't get enough credit.
And if it's accurate, I think it means that senior levels of the FBI and Department of Justice are exponentially more corrupt than maybe even our worst fears suggested.
Now, what they're reporting is last week, FBI agents raided the home of a recognized Department of Justice whistleblower, who privately delivered documents pertaining to the Clinton Foundation and Uranium One to a government watchdog group, according to the whistleblower's attorney.
Now, why would they be raiding the home of a whistleblower?
Now, the inspector general of the Justice Department, this guy Horowitz was informed that the documents show that federal officials failed to investigate potential criminal activity regarding former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as it relates to the Clinton Foundation,
Rossatom, that's the Russian company that purchased uranium one with all the bribes and the kickbacks and the money laundering and the extortion that was going on, and we had an FBI informant in the group inside of Clinton's, I'm sorry, inside of Putin's network here in America.
They want to get a foothold in our uranium industry.
We have infiltrated that group of Putin operatives in America.
I've interviewed the guy.
Robert Muller is the FBI director.
They know what Putin's thugs want.
Anyway, so you have this whistleblower finds this information, and we want whistleblower.
We have whistleblower protection laws for this very reason.
And anyway, documents show that federal officials failed to investigate the information that he handed over regarding Clinton herself, the Clinton Foundation, Rossatom, the Russian company that purchased uranium one.
A document by the Daily Caller alleges.
Now, the delivered documents also show that the then FBI director, Robert Muller failed to investigate allegations of criminal misconduct pertaining to Rossatom and other Russian government entities attached to Uranium One.
And the Bureau rated, according to the lawyer of the whistleblower, quote, the Bureau rated my client to seize what he legally gave Congress about the Clinton Foundation and Uranium One.
According to the whistleblower's attorney, Michael Sakaris.
Now, by the way, tonight on Hannity, both the whistleblower and Michael Sakaris will be on TV, noting that he considered the FBI's raid to be an outrageous disregard of whistleblower protections.
Now, not only did they raid his house, 16 agents showed up.
The guy's name is Dennis Dennis Nathan Kane.
He's a former FBI contractor.
This all happened recently on the morning of November 19th.
He lives in, well, Maryland, so I won't say where.
Now the raid was permitted by a court order on November 15th by a federal magistrate by the name of Stephanie Gallagher in the U.S. District Court for Baltimore.
A special agent from the FBI's Baltimore division who led the raid, charged that Kane possessed stolen federal property, demanded entry into his private residence, according to his attorney.
On November 19th, the FBI conducted court authorized law enforcement activity in in Maryland, according to a Bureau spokesperson.
At this time, we have no further comment.
Kane then informed the agent while he was still at the door that he was a recognized protected whistleblower under the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act, and that the Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz recognized his whistleblower status according to the guy's attorney.
And for the Bureau to just show up at this guy's home, as attorney said, and suggesting the same documents are stolen property and then proceed to seize copies of the same documents after being told that the House door that he is a legally protected whistleblower who already gave the documents to Congress is an outrageous disregard for the law.
Now the question is why?
Why would they why would they be doing this?
Now here's the problem that the media will never get into.
Problem is for them is that if you look at, they want to tie anything and everything, Donald Trump, Russia.
Muller's goal right now is it's a total PR political stunt.
And that is to get the word Moscow, Russia, and Trump, and try and blend them so it's almost synonymous.
It doesn't matter that we have all of these Russian intelligence agents that Mueller indicted, they will never come here.
It's just to create the image, the impression that Russians.
And now they sign now somehow Muller has to do two things.
Muller has to tie knowledge of what Julian Assange in WikiLeaks was doing, and whether or not either Corsi or Stone or anybody had advanced knowledge of what was going to be in the WikiLeaks dump, I don't really think anybody knew.
I don't remember before the DNC dump.
I just remember when it came out what happened afterwards, and that was the bye-bye Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
It was on the eve of the convention.
I do remember a lot of speculation.
Is there going to be more to come?
Now, I asked this question of Professor Dershowitz last night.
Now, WikiLeaks, if they didn't hack themselves and get the information, be it the DNC emails or the Podesta emails, and according to Julian Assange in the interview I had, he said he did not, and that it wasn't Russian sources, nor was it any state party.
But for the sake of legal terms, based on the precedence known as the Pentagon Papers, where the New York Times and Washington Post got a hold of stolen materials regarding the Vietnam War, and they printed them, they have a legal right to print them, even though the materials that they're printing were stolen as long as it wasn't stolen by or they conspire to have others steal for them those documents.
And I asked, well, would that apply to WikiLeaks?
Yes.
Or into the New York Times that also printed what WikiLeaks printed as it relates to the emails.
They printed them all.
As long as you're not the person stealing it or conspiring to steal it, that's why I'm having a hard time understanding where the crime would ever be anyway.
Now, both Roger Stone on this week on this program for an hour and Jerome Corsey on this program for an hour, both have said they've never had any contact with either Julian Assange or WikiLeaks or anybody associated with them.
Julian Assange stepped out this week and said, well, the two-part happened.
First, it was the accusation against Assange by the Guardian and by uh also against Paul Manafort.
They don't know each other.
So he's desperately trying to tie that some there was prior knowledge of this leak, and some Donald Trump doesn't know who who Julian Assange is or what got leaked to him was was going to be leaked by him.
I think at one point he said, Well, I hope Russia leaks it if they got it.
Well, he was obviously mocking the fact that Hillary's email server in a mom and pop shop bathroom closet, and even Comey's original draft along with Peter Strzok of the exoneration, suggested that multiple foreign intel services had in fact hacked into Hillary's server that had top secret and classified and special access programming information on the hard drive.
And which, by the way, is a clear violation, clear felony of the espionage act.
Never mind when they get subpoenaed and then deleted and then bleach bit and then busted up devices.
That would be obstruction of justice.
That's another great injustice here.
You know, you know, there's two big stories they can't get away from, and that's Hillary paying funneling money through Perkins Couie, hiring Fusion GPS, hiring then Christopher Steele getting Russian lies.
And those Russian lies are used to influence the American people.
You still have that aspect, you know, of which they didn't deal with.
Or in 2009, the FBI, they actually were doing their job, having discovered documents, emails, and even having somebody infiltrate Putin's network, Russian officials here on in American so on American soil, working on behalf of Vladimir Putin engaged in obvious crimes of bribery, kickbacks, money laundering, extortion.
How do you get around that?
If you're worried about Russian influence, how do you then ignore these two big stories?
Which shows you just how corrupt the news media is and how embed they are.
So Mueller's trying to get Trump through the WikiLeaks aspect.
The other way he's trying to get it is through this meeting that where they talked about Russian adoption and everybody, even in their emails, waste of time, waste of time, waste of time.
As if it was if it was so bad to get op research on your opposing candidates, you'd think they'd be equally mad at Hillary for hiring Fusion GPS, hiring Christopher Steele, and then getting phony Russian lies about Trump and Hookers peeinging in his bed and urinating in his bed.
And we know that in 2009, not to skip around here a little bit, that Putin wanted a foothold in America's uranium market.
What's so inexcusable is the Obama administration, including Hillary and Eric Holder Holder and Robert Muller, all let this happen.
And in spite of knowing that this was Putin's network in America, knowing Putin wanted a foothold in the uranium market, the Clintons benefiting financially from it with kickbacks from many of the people involved.
You got to ask why in 2010 the Uranium One deal was finally approved.
We had a spy in Putin's network right here.
And I've interviewed him.
And he's told me they knew he, everybody knew.
And they didn't stop it.
Then we find out you follow the money and it goes right back to the Clinton Foundation.
And then that means, okay, so what were these documents that this whistleblower turned Over.
You know, remember back in the day was uh John Solomon and Sarah Carter.
And they were at circa news at the time.
The FBI, you know, had evidence, including testimony.
They had the informant that I've met and interviewed.
Russian nuclear officials were funneling all these millions of dollars into Clinton's foundation while she was serving as Secretary of State, and she was personally signing off on the Uranium-1 deal in the first place.
Which, you know, considering Putin such a bad actor, why would anyone ever do that?
Eric Holder, he oversaw the FBI.
He was Robert Mueller's boss at the time.
The FBI had all this information about all these crimes committed by Putin's thugs at the time.
He actually helped the FBI lead the FBI investigation into the Russia bribery scandal.
And Muller, back in 2009, was the FBI director during the whole scandal.
And we're supposed to trust Mueller is going to investigate Russian interference fairly, objectively, honestly.
He ought to be investigated along with everybody else that let this happen and let Putin get what he wanted.
You know, as in during her tenure as Secretary of State, she was one of the nine people who had to approve the transfer of 20% of America's uranium.
You know, well, well, that's only 20%, but it's 20% of the foundational material for nuclear weapons.
Just happened to be doing it to the hostile regime of Russia with the hostile actor known as Vladimir Putin.
Whoopsie Daisy.
By the way, if Donald Trump is so afraid of what goods Putin has on him, doing a pretty good job of hiding it because he's not meeting with Putin over this Ukrainian Navy confrontation as Putin now has just put his feet, you know, foot to the floor here.
I bet he's going to end up backing down in the end.
We'll have to see.
But anyway, so the president canceled his meeting at the G-20 with Putin.
And Russian tanks are literally now 11 miles from the border.
Uh, and there's fears of an imminent invasion.
Ukrainian president there has claimed that war looms following the violent clashes in the Black Sea.
So we'll see what the president ends up doing here.
It's not going to be what Barack Obama does.
That I can tell you.
That's one big difference.
Um, we do have some news on the border wall.
I love that the left, they're absolutely apoplectic that Chuck Schumer agreed to fund negotiate funding for the wall, although now he's saying he doesn't want a wall, he wants a fence.
Okay, I can't think of any fence that can is gonna keep anybody out of anything.
Just as a side note, it's a dumb idea.
But we'll see how beholden he's gonna be.
By the way, the president has just signed the uh new trade deal with Canada and Mexico.
They just signed the deal, which by the way, helps car manufacturers, uh, prevents in the future of manufacturers from moving any factories down there.
It helps our dairy uh farmers in Wisconsin, farmers all across the country as it relates to Canada.
Um, and overall lessens the trade deficit dramatically with both countries.
Oh, but everyone was afraid he was going to start a trade war.
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So we've been following the border, and you go back to the election, the news media, Barack Obama out campaigning.
This is not, this is this is just to racially inspire those those racist Republicans to vote, et cetera, et cetera.
No, that's never been what it was about.
And now we have a real crisis, 7,000, an estimated so or so many people in Tijuana.
It's now developing into a massive humanitarian crisis.
Medical supplies are needed greatly for things like TB and other diseases, which by the way, I think the U.S. should probably help uh the people.
Um, and the bigger problem is that Mexican officials and our own Department of Homeland Security have identified over 600 people that have infiltrated the migrant caravan community, if you will.
And there's been there's been assault, sexual assault, and other going on throughout the time that the walking in the caravan has been moving.
And anyway, the most important thing, 600 people that we've identified as criminals.
There's a daily caller piece out today.
The media never misses a chance to try and paint illegal migrant border crashes as sympathetic, hardworking families, you know, women and children when the vast majority of people are actually men.
And for every, you know, all the thousands, I'm sure the vast majority of people that want what we often take for granted, which is a better life and opportunity for themselves and their kids.
And the problem is there is this report of an illegal alien pleading guilty Wednesday of this week of raping and murdering an Islamic teen last year in a horrifying case near a mosque in Fairfax County, Virginia.
Darwin Martinez Torres, 25, pled guilty, capital murder and rape 17-year-old Nabra Hassana.
And part of the deal allows him to avoid the death penalty in exchange for a life sentence behind bars.
And Martinez Torres is an illegal alien from El Salvador, a suspected member of the notorious MS 13 street gang, according to the Daily Mail.
Prosecutors laid out the crime in chilling detail.
And we had a recent case of a young teacher that was killed by an illegal immigrant in Tech, I think it was Texas last weekend.
And in that case, he had already been arrested for a violent crime, and we didn't deport the person.
Now this young teacher is dead.
And people talk about family separation.
Well, you can't use tear gas.
Well, what are you supposed to do when people are pelting bottles, rocks, and other projectiles at our border patrol and trying to crash down gates and enter the country illegally?
Senator Lindsey Graham is with us.
Senator, how are you?
How was your uh Thanksgiving?
It was good.
I hope you had a good one.
Yeah, you know what?
We you know what we do, which is really I got a butterball turkey fryer.
No, I swear.
So, like take a 15-pound turkey, how long do you think it takes to cook that?
No.
Four hours.
No.
Forty-five minutes.
No, you you literally you just drop it down in peanut oil.
It's over in 45 minutes.
It's the juiciest turkey.
Now turkey's usually dry when you're done co it's like you can't baste it.
You baste it if it has the skin on it.
It's not gonna penetrate the skin anyway.
And but it comes out steep, moist, delicious, the best turkey ever had.
Well, you've just talked to the guy that can't boil water, and I'm I'm much better for the for having learned all that.
Oh, come on.
You what do you go on?
You don't you can't buy you can't boil water, you can't make spaghetti, seriously.
You can't fry an egg.
No, I'm I'm a danger to myself and others in the kitchen.
But I'm glad that you're good at what you do on the radio as well as doing uh frying turkeys.
Speaking of turkeys, uh let's talk about the democratic response to the caravan.
Yeah, pretty b well, Chuck Schumer, I guess got pressure from the left wing of his party for uh even talking about funding the border wall, and he says, Well, maybe we'll just put up a fence.
A fence isn't gonna stop anybody.
Uh here's a moment in time for President Trump to drive home the point he's been making for two years that something's gotta change, and let's start with a caravan.
If you do not deter this caravan, you've got ten more coming.
If you don't get it now that people are trying to overrun our border, take advantage of our laws, you're never gonna get it.
So, President Trump, stand your ground.
I'm for fixing a broken immigration system, but who is going to allow us to fix this broken immigration system unless you can prove to them you won't have eleven million twenty years from now, and that's what the caravan's about.
It's always been in my mind, secure the border first.
We never you know how you always, for example, you make these spending deals, you and your friends in Washington, and we always get the tax increase right away.
And then the spending cuts, we never get the that part of the deal never happens.
Right.
You know, right.
So I I'd be we'd get the amnesty, but we're not gonna get the wall.
Well, so that's what Reagan did.
Reagan gave three million people amnesty.
We never did the border, we never controlled uh employment through your verify.
We never increased legal immigration, so people don't have to cheat.
The one thing I can tell you for sure is if you can't prove to the public that you won't have a third wave by being fair to the eleven million already here, you're never going to get a deal.
To Democrats who want to fix a broken immigration system.
When you ignore the problems created by the caravan, when you make light of the fact that our laws are broken and enticing people to come here legally, when you criticize President Trump for doing the same thing President Obama did on the border uh to protect us, then you're making a huge mistake.
You know, Senator, there's two ideas out there that I think I like it.
The president so far has been given what, three and a half billion, if I'm not correct, for the border wall.
Right.
And there's progress made.
The estimate is we need a total of twenty-five.
There is two proposals out there.
One is if Republicans decide to stick together, they could use the reconciliation process and in the Senate, which would mean that you only need fifty votes.
Mike Pence would be the tiebreak, and that we could get full funding of the wall.
If not, the president has said he would take five billion as a down payment and negotiate the actual building of the wall himself, meaning it's not gonna be waste fraud and abuse.
He's gonna get somebody to give him a good deal.
Right.
So Ted Cruz has been pushing this idea.
Count me in.
We need to do it before the new Congress because we're gonna lose the House.
Are you talking about the res reconciliation?
Reconciliation.
So count me in.
Again, I've been beat up for trying to solve immigration, but people never understood where I'm coming from.
I want to fix it so we don't have eleven million twenty years from now.
I don't want to do a phony deal, I want to do a real deal, and it starts with border security.
If you can't control the border, you're gonna have eleven million more 20 years from now.
So I think Ted Cruz's idea is a smart idea.
Let's go ahead and appropriate the entire 25 billion dollars in the next 10 days.
I love it.
Will Mitch McConnell do it?
Do you think it would pass where he where are your fellow senators?
Because we really can't afford to lose Eddie.
I mean, and you're you're kind of friends with everybody.
So the bottom line is that the Democratic Party is missing an opportunity to work with us to give public confidence that we all see the same movie.
The most people in this country have no animosity toward immigrants in general, will be fair to illegal immigrants as long as they're not felons, rapists, and murderers, but they're pretty upset with our government who cannot work together to stop an invasion by a caravan of people who are demanding to come into the country.
So let's use the time we have left in Congress to go ahead and get the money and see what happens.
Where well, Mitch McConnell kind of runs a tight ship over there.
Where is he?
If you have Well, I I I love Mitch McConnell's fine, but you know, at the end of the day, if they don't give him five billion, he should insist they do, because it's a reasonable amount of money to continue progress on securing the border.
But we do have control of the Congress till January the third.
You could through reconciliation pass money appropriated for border security as a standalone proposition.
I don't like doing things like this, but I don't see an option to it if they don't work with us.
No, I agree with that wholeheartedly.
I think you're I think you're right.
I guess my biggest fear is is that you know this opportunity is gonna pass.
Look, you you're gonna have a bigger majority in January for the Senate, but the House is never gonna go along with it.
So this is a a short window that we have available here for us, correct?
January the third.
So, you know, I I want to be home for Christmas and all that good stuff.
And listen, it's not like I haven't tried to work with Democrats to fix a broken immigration system.
But here's the frustration for a guy like me.
You know, I've had my ass kicked trying to fix this problem, and Trump is right about the caravan.
Because Trump says it doesn't mean it's wrong.
He's right to stand up to the caravan and to draw a red line in the sand that we're not gonna allow asylum laws to be abused anymore.
You're not gonna come to America, get released, and never show up for your hearing.
You're gonna stay on the Mexican side of the border.
And to the mayor of Tijuana, if you ever listen to this program, you got a friend in Lynn's Graham, and I think Sean Annity, it's the mayor of Tijuana, Mexico, that's the biggest advocate for why the caravans not working.
You know, uh we pretty much know what is gonna happen in the House next year.
Democrats, they're gonna be investigating, investigating.
Nancy Pelosi said that their first bill is that President Trump must release his taxes.
That's not going anywhere in the U.S. Senate.
So the president who campaigned for Marsha Blackburn and Governor Kemp uh elected in Georgia and DeSantis and Scott and you know helped defeat Claire McCaskill with Josh Hawley and helped defeat Joe Donnelly with Braun and helped defeat Heidi Heikamp, that's now gonna pay huge dividends for him having the Senate.
You were very clear if the Democrats go down the road of endless nonstop investigation, you're all right with that because you're just gonna do the same thing in the Senate.
What do you mean by that specifically?
Well, let's just play this out.
Okay, McCabe lied about matters that allowed him to be fired.
Nobody has threatened to put him in jail to have him talk more about what he knows about the 25th amendment and all that other stuff.
So the zeal that Mueller has to break people to try to find out if they know more than they're telling us was never present during the FBI DOJ debacle.
We never had a special counsel.
So if you're gonna spend all of your time in the House looking at 2016 and looking at Trump, I'm in charge of the Judiciary Committee, Ron Johnson's charge of Homeland Security.
We've got plenty of opportunity to look at McCabe, Comey, Lynch, all of these people about what they did with the Pfizer warrant and what they did about the Clinton email investigation.
What about Uranium One will all play it?
Well, I mean, I think you can start with I think the exoneration of Hillary.
I mean, she clearly with that mom and pop shop bathroom closet server of hers violated the espionage act.
Why do I s why do I think, Senator, that if I had subpoenaed emails and I deleted them and I cleaned my hard drive with bleach bit and I broke up my devices and I had to go before your committee, I why do I think you guys would probably handcuff me right there and send me to jail for the rest of my life?
Well, number one, don't try this at home.
Try the turkey thing, but don't try the Clinton email thing.
Yeah, don't it's not gonna work out.
Well, how come it works out for her?
How do you get to commit you know she's she paid for Russian lies that were disseminated to the American people?
How many people didn't you are?
Uh so here's what I'm gonna do.
The FISA warrant process seems to have been abused.
That the uh Democratic Party alone with Clinton paid a foreign agent to collect information uh against President Candidate Trump, foreign agent that was used to get a warrant, and none of the information is reliable.
How could you get multiple warrants, much less one?
If we don't find out what happened there, then we're letting the whole system down.
So I'm gonna look at that.
Senator, you wrote a memo with co-authored with with Senator Grassley, and it's the Grassley Graham memo.
I don't know why he got top billing.
You need to talk about that.
And I think that it you the bulk of information for the Pfizer warrants was the phony dossier.
Isn't isn't that a fraud committed on a Pfizer court and they purposely didn't tell the court that she paid for it?
Sure.
Well, where is the Pfizer court's outrage, number one?
Number two, if there was a paid informant, a confidential informant used as a counterintelligence operation that was paid to talk to the Trump campaign about connections to Russia.
What did the confidential informant find?
And why wasn't that information used to get a warrant?
So here's what I'm suggesting to you.
If the confidential informant used by the FBI to look at the Trump campaign, didn't find anything about Russia, because if he had, it would have been part of the warrant application to surveil Carter Page.
Well, I think you're right on all accounts, and the only thing that I I might add is the uranium one debacle.
You know we had it, we had infiltrated Putin's network.
You know that Hillary got the kickbacks to the Clinton Foundation.
You know that Robert Muller just happened to be the FBI director, and the FBI infiltrator was informing his bosses that bribery, extortion, money laundering, and kickbacks were going on, and they still approved that uranium one deal, 20% of our uranium, you know, ending up really in Putin's hands.
And they knew everything.
Go ahead.
I mean what people in your program believed is that when it came to Clinton misconduct, there was really no zealous effort to find the truth.
That the people investigating Clinton headed out for Trump and wanted her to win, that the FISA warrant was more political than it was legal, and that that whole group got a pass.
And that they're going after Trump like there's no tomorrow.
And I don't know how you tell people that they're not right to believe that.
Mm-hmm.
I'm gonna have to let you go here, Senator.
We do appreciate what you're doing.
I think you're gonna be working pretty hard next year.
Hope you get some downtime over Christmas, and maybe we'll get that reconciliation bill first.
Uh that would be awesome and fund the wall.
I see that uh CNN contributor Mark Lamon Hill calls pretty much for the destruction of in uh Israel using a well worn phrase uh that says, Oh, from uh it's pretty sad actually when Sick what he said it, but anyway, they did fire him.
What's going on with Avenati and Stormy?
Looks like uh she's mad at him.
You can keep it under the reform we seek.
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
It not only means making sure you can keep your family's doctor or keep your health care plan if you like it, but also that you can afford to do so.
My Republican opponents will try to equate health care for all Americans with government run health care.
Well, don't let them fool us again.
We're gonna put in any legislation considered by the House and Senate the protection of you as an individual to keep the health insurance you have if that's what you want.
If you like what you have, you will be able to keep it.
Mr. President, let me say this again.
If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by our president, you will be able to keep it.
There's multiple choices that are being discussed right now.
But the first thing is first uh that is critical is that uh if you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that.
If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want, uh the idea is to make sure you keep it, that you can keep it who you want.
Um, that we keep that patient to doctor relationship very strong.
The Senate Health Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee crafted a bill that ensures that people who like their insurance and their doctors keep them.
Well, they make clear I'm not gonna support a health care reform plan that's gonna take away uh health care that you've got right now or health care plan that you like.
Well, those individuals who like the coverage they already have will be able to keep their current plan.
This is a very accurate description of this bill before us, the Patient Protection and Affordability Act.
It's very accurate.
Our goal uh is to have a system first.
If you like the insurance that you have, you can choose to keep it.
Uh but if you don't have insurance or you're dissatisfied with insurance, you'll have uh options, including a public option, which we're trying to construct.
What we're seeing now is that patients are actually coming to our practice, not only from all over the state of Florida, but they're coming to our practice from out of the out of the state of Florida.
They're coming across the country.
We're even having patients coming to us from out of the country for affordable medical care.
We've recently seen an inbound case of medical tourism into the United States through our practice for affordable surgical services, because we've negotiated cash bundled price surgeries in an inpatient facility in a rural hospital in Florida.
So we're very happy that that the committee is interested in exploring uh exploring direct primary care again.
There are now about a thousand practices nationwide that are practicing in this model.
This is a growing model.
Most of that growth has occurred weirdly within the past few years.
Uh, we believe that this is a way for most people to get access to the care that they need.
And if surrounded by a catastrophic major medical plan, the combination of affordable access with no killpays, no deductibles for the routine care for the routine chronic disease management, if you then bundle that with an affordable major medical wraparound option for the unpredictable.
Let's make the afford the predictable affordable for everybody.
Let's make routine care affordable for everybody, regardless of of insurance status.
If we can if we can provide that level of care to most people, then we can find ways to afford to afford and pay for the unexpected.
All right, that was testimony before Congress.
And you know what's fascinating?
Um we have had Dr. Lee S. Gross on the program a number of times, and of course, Dr. Josh Umber, founder Atlas MD, and this is, you know, we always talk about what are the real alternatives.
Well, what about concierge care for every American?
Adults 50 bucks a month and kids 10 bucks a month, unlimited visits.
You know, he get he he directly negotiates with pharmaceuticals, 95% discount.
You leave the doctor's office and you need high blood pressure medicine, you take it with you.
You need cholesterol medicine, you take it with you.
You need whatever the medicine happens to be, you take it with you, and that's how they're doing it.
And they've been able now to duplicate this little just in almost a thousand practices.
Fifty bucks a month.
Now, is that all the insurance you need?
No.
You would need a little catastrophic care with a high deductible, and that's for the uh oh, what happens if I get cancer?
Or what happens if I have a heart attack?
Or what happens if I have a bad accident and I get injured severely?
Well, that's what catastrophic insurance is about, and it's very inexpensive, depending how high a deductible you're willing to take.
And you get concierge care for blue-collar America.
It's just an amazing deal.
You call your doctor three in the morning, somebody's gonna pick up the phone.
You need medicine, they've got it in the doctor's office.
I mean, and it's working all over the country.
Anyway, so that was actual testimony that took place uh this week before the Senate.
Uh interestingly, you know, a couple of senators were missing.
Uh Pocahontas, Elizabeth Warren didn't show up.
Bernie Standards didn't bother showing up.
Now that was a full committee hearing on reducing health care costs, improving affordability through innovation.
And I keep telling you that these health care cooperatives are going to be the single best way to super serve every American's health needs.
And it's going to be affordable.
And one idea Lindsey Graham has is maybe we block grant health care funding to the states, and they can be, you know, 50 states of of varying innovation.
You know, if California wants to use it for their free, free, free model, good luck with that.
But we're not paying any more than we're paying for the people in Alabama and Georgia and Florida and Ohio and Wisconsin.
Anyway, Dr. Lee who testified is here with us.
Now I I I understand that Dr. Josh Umber is uh on strike today because he feels he's done my show for free all these many years, and he's now saying either I pay him or he's not coming back.
What's that all about?
Yeah, Josh can get a little bit stubborn that way, but I think he'll he'll uh happily come back on.
Yeah, I that's a fantastic introduction and into the into the hearing and the exciting work that we're doing in direct primary care around the country.
I mean, this really was a fantastic opportunity for these senators to explore what choice and competition and freedom and price transparency can really do to unlock and embolden the American consumer in the U.S. health care system.
I'm gonna try and get you.
I know I I was able to get Newt Gingrich's attention, and Newt went absolutely wild with the idea.
How many Atlas MDs have you been able to duplicate these cooperatives around the country where patients are paying fifty bucks a month for adults, 10 bucks a month for kids, uh 95% reductions in medicines, and that includes stitches and broken bones and simple, you know, that includes a lot, but it doesn't include you know major surgeries.
Yeah, so there's there's absolutely a tremendous amount that that can be done by a primary care doctor in terms of managing diabetes.
You know, we talked about pre-existing conditions, chronic care management, so many things that can be done at the primary care level.
It's it's fascinating.
And you know, so so our practice in Florida is is Epiphany Health, but there are now over a thousand practices nationwide.
We just held a conference in Orlando, Florida, to teach doctors how to do this.
And we have 380 physicians from 40 states come to learn how to do this.
We increased the the exposure to the practices by 30 percent nationwide in just a single weekend.
Uh so you know, the the growth in the practice model, the interest in in doing this by physicians is is astronomical because the physicians are being burnt out by the current system.
They can't keep up with it, they don't want to practice in it.
The patients don't like it, and and everybody is is really excited about this model, the cost of the case.
By the way, you were right.
Dr. Umber is g is giving up his strike.
I heard you were on strike after coming on the show for free all these years and that you wanted to get paid and you weren't coming back until I started paying you.
Well, let me ask you when you when I mention Atlas MD in Wichita, Kansas.
Do people hear about it on KNSS and then go and call you and say they want to sign up?
Oh, absolutely.
Every time.
I mean, with the same thing.
So I'm building your business and you still want more money.
I'm not getting a piece of that action.
No, we're always grateful for all that you've done for us at the movie.
Well, in all seriousness, so uh I love Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth, you know, Pocahontas Warren don't show up.
What's that about?
They don't really want answers, I guess.
They their answer is a top-down government run.
You think uh that's gonna work?
Look at Obamacare and look at how we treated our vets.
Well, you know, one of the things that we've seen is is that you know, if the answer doesn't fit with their proposed solution, then they don't want to hear it, even if it's working.
Yeah.
Dr. Umber, what do you think?
You now have been to Congress a lot.
I know Newt Gingrich, you got you piqued his interest majorly.
He's been asking me a ton of questions about it.
Have you gotten to the White House yet with this?
Uh we're we're hoping to soon.
Yeah, well, I'm gonna I I I think I know people that work there.
I might make a call for you and see if I can make that happen.
Um because I think it would really actually that's a statement.
Put that down on my list of things to do, Linda, as if it's not long enough.
Uh but I'll get no, I'm serious.
I'll I will make that call because I just think this is the answer, and coupled with health care savings accounts, catastrophic care.
It would transform the medical system in the entire country.
Look, but I'm I'm sure like when you say not, when you say unlimited coverage, there's gotta be that those five or ten people that call you every day, right?
Well, you know, there's some people who will go through times where they need a lot more care, and then people will go for months not needing to care.
So you know it balances itself pretty well, but uh we're really excited about the fact that there's a a split.
You're being so diplomatic.
You don't want to talk about the crazy, you know, Anne Sally down the block that's 92 and calls you every day and says uh my foot hurts, my little toe.
I I have patients that email me every day.
Uh and thankfully, you know, we can uh uh fit margins.
Yeah, but the bottom line is I do think most people are like me.
I get an annual checkup and I frankly don't want to go to that and my doctor makes me do it and or else he's he's a friend of mine and he's a black belt and I'm only a brown belt, or else he says he's gonna come over and kick my ass.
I think yeah, it's it's most people need a reasonable amount of care, but uh membership model kind of leverages it out.
I don't watch Netflix every day, but some people do.
Um, but they can offer this huge value for a very reasonable uh fee because it blends itself into the middle.
And uh and like Dr. Lee said, I think politics if it doesn't fit into their preconceived goal, they don't want it.
But this is actually working on the case.
All right, two people that I know I'm gonna get you in touch with.
I'm gonna make sure that you talk to Lindsey Graham.
Okay.
And the second thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna find somebody in the White House that might take my call and uh I'm gonna see if we can't get the health and human services secretary.
At least look at this.
Because you know, uh look, I know the Democrats are only really caring about destroying the president, but it would be nice if we could actually actually solve some problems and help Americans that desperately need it.
Um I know the president led is allowing state waivers uh as it relates to the burdensome regulations of Obamacare.
That was a big thing that happened this week that nobody paid attention to, which probably is good.
But he's moving the needle for us on short-term insurance plans that would actually be perfect for this kind of model.
You know, full coverage for major accidents.
But like Dr. Lee said, let's make the predictable affordable.
And and we can do that.
Um so there's yeah, real solutions that can be implemented essentially today uh for citizens across the country, help them save money, improve their lives, improve their health.
Uh yeah, and it's weird to think there's an actual fix.
We've been talking about the health care problem for decades, and and people almost don't really expect it to be fixed.
Uh all right, I gotta let you both go.
But uh Dr. Umber, as always, thank you, Dr. Lee Gross, thank you.
Appreciate you both being with us and all you do.
All right as we continue, eight hundred nine four one Sean is our toll-free telephone number.
Let's get to Uh oh, Joe is in Texas.
Joe, hi, how are you?
Glad you called my friend.
What's going on?
Hey, Sean.
Glad to speak with you.
We're thankful that we beat the hundred million dollars of Bozo the Clown uh down there in Texas.
Oh my God.
I just drive through here a couple times a week.
I drive trucks, so uh I wouldn't put up with them personally.
Uh I love it.
Um anyways, uh uh I've I've been listening to you faithfully for four years, uh every day, your night show and your radio show and longer before that intermittently.
I haven't heard an idea that I have, and I don't know if it's feasible or not.
With the corruption in the Department Department of Justice, the people that are uh demanded to appear, they don't appear, they appear, they lie.
Everything that's going on with all the corruption.
What about does President Trump have the authority to do have the uh JAG in the military do a tribunal and investigate the Department of Justice that way, where Congress.
He actually does have that authority.
Well, it's the again, that would be within the realm of the executive branch of the government, which he is the head of.
Yeah, he would.
And look, I think the president has been look, he could have fired Mueller.
He could, and he could do it legally.
Alan Dershow would said it yesterday.
He could fire Rosenstein.
He could have done that at any point.
He didn't.
And I think the president wisely, as frustrating as this all is, and as time consuming and as expensive and as frankly duplicitous and the double standard and the phoniness of it all.
Um I know it frustrates me.
It's gotta frustrate him a lot more.
We've exposed so much you know, so many real examples from Uranium One through Hillary Clinton and the phony fraudulent Russian dossier she paid for.
And all they're fixated on is Trump.
And just like, you know, a lot of the people on the Senate Judiciary Committee, you know, were saying I believe, but they didn't believe Keith Delison's girlfriend when she said he she was physically and emotionally abused, not thirty-six years ago, but recently, you know.
So that they didn't believe, you know, the Avenatti story, and Avenatti brought forward a woman that they've said they believed.
You know, so it's not about the issue.
It's really about does it benefit them politically?
And you know, to expose such hypocrisy, it's like you know, fishing in a barrel.
It's it's easy, it's simple.
You're gonna catch them.
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I really appreciate you uh you putting that out there and uh endorsing that.
Yeah, some people got mad at me, and I'm like, well, I qu I quit smoking cigars, and you know, Jewel is uh to it's just the perfect look.
I I see all these people outside of New York buildings all the time, all smoking cigarettes, right?
They stink, they smell, they've got additives, they've got tar.
You know, it's just to me personally, it's just uh, you know, if you have that urge or it's like a cup of coffee to me.
That's how I look at it.
It just if I do it four hours a day on radio and on TV, and I love it.
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Up next, our final news roundup and information overload hour.
So there's a few things down the road.
One, we took this caravan very serious from day one.
It's like no caravan we've ever seen before.
Uh you've heard it reports that caravans happen all the time.
Uh that's true, but not caravans that have a propensity for this type of violence and not these massive numbers of people.
Uh we watched as they came up through Mexico, the violence that they were subjecting uh the Mexican police and military to.
We prepared accordingly.
Uh our immigration system has some holes in it.
We've identified those for Congress and long term.
I'm hoping that Congress steps up to the plate and fixes those to shut off the draw.
But in the meantime, I'd like to point out that not a single migrant climbed over the new border wall.
We have about eight miles of border wall completed here in San Diego.
Uh unfortunately, that's not complete.
Uh so the military came over the last several weeks to help us fortify different areas, but it those it's those weak areas where we have not upgraded the infrastructure that the uh migrants were able to breach.
Our agents were being assaulted.
Uh large group rushed the area, and they were throwing rocks and bottles at um my men and women, putting them in harm's way as well as uh other members of uh the caravan.
Uh we needed to disperse the group, and with that assaultive nature, it was it was imperative that we disperse them from the area.
So it wasn't because they seemed to be running toward the United States, it was because they were hitting your uh your uh patrol uh border patrol with rocks and bottles?
Yes, sir, they were.
All right, there you have it.
Those are agents, those are the people on the front lines putting their lives on the line for all of us usually, and you know, it's been amazing the attacks by the media.
Well, the hypocrisy is on parade because, of course, as we have pointed out, the and chronicle for you the hundreds of times that the Obama administration used tear gas and and pepper spray balls in the exact same situation, but it's only Donald Trump that does it,
and he's doing it to children, even though the vast majority of the migrants happen to be men, and in the case that we saw last weekend, men that were trying to knock down the wall and force their way into the country in large numbers and were pelting box rocks and other projectiles at our border patrol agents.
Nobody seems to care that much about them.
We were asking Geraldo last night, right?
Haraldo, then what's your solution?
He goes, but they can't do it.
I'm like, well, then how do you stop them?
Do you believe in American, the American constitutional republic?
Do you believe in sovereignty, rule of law?
Do you believe we should control our borders?
Is it really unfair if people want to come here to ask them to follow the process and do it legally?
And he was talking about, well, the Irish, when they first came over, there was this widespread discrimination against them and Italian Americans and I okay, and I said, understood, those were my grandparents.
Irish Catholic need not apply, but that's not the point here.
They came over legally, registered legally at Ellis Island, and went through the process of becoming citizens.
Nobody's saying we don't want people to come to the country.
And the president's talked about a door, a big door, uh, and even expediting the process for people to get in.
Anyway, joining us now, what is the answer?
And I think we heard it, we just heard from Rodney Scott, who's in charge of the San Diego sector, the border patrol.
Not a single migrant was able to climb over the new border wall.
By the way, and it would be safer for people as well.
If they saw that wall, we wouldn't have migrant caravans from Central America walking the dangerous route up until they get to the U.S. southern border.
And Mexico should have done more to stop them.
Mexico also did offer jobs and opportunities and work permits for people to stay in southern Mexico.
And they caught could have sought asylum there.
But it really wasn't about getting into Mexico or getting asylum.
It was always about just getting into the United States, which I frankly don't blame people if you come from a country that is impoverished and where corruption reigns and you don't have opportunities for your your family to grow and get a better life.
But it's the 600 identified criminals within that have infiltrated the caravan population that should scare every American.
Anyway, Terry Jeffrey, editor-in-chief of CNS News, Jessica Vaughn, the director of policy studies for the Center for Immigration Studies.
Well, I guess the one thing is I guess this wasn't some big, you know, scare tactic of the president and Republicans, because those people were never going to make it to the wall.
Well, they're there, and there's some seven or eight thousand of them in Tijuana as we speak, and it's become a major crisis now, and in many ways a health crisis for Mexico, and I wouldn't mind if the United States offered humanitarian support for the people that are there, and I feel badly for them.
Sean, uh, thanks for having me on.
I I agree with you.
I think that what we saw happen in the San Diego sector this past week demonstrates the moral superiority of securing our border with the wall.
Rodney Scott, the chief of the border patrol sector in San Diego, said in Fox News, she had the quote at the beginning of the segment, that not a single migrant climbed over the eight miles of new Trump era border wall.
If we had wall like that in every space that we can get it from San Diego all the way across to the Gulf of Mexico, first of all, it'd send a signal to people who were thinking about illegally coming.
Don't because you're not going to get there.
Secondly, when people did get to the border and they found out they couldn't get through, it'd be a wall Stopping them instead of a confrontation with U.S. border patrol.
You know, Chuck Schumer goes around telling people, I don't believe him, but he says it, that he's in favor of border security, he just doesn't want the wall.
But if you're not going to have a wall stopping people, then what you're saying is what you'd prefer is a confrontation between U.S. border patrol agents and alien smugglers and drug smugglers and other people who are willfully illegally crossing our border.
The superior option is build the wall, don't have the confrontation.
What's your take, Jessica?
And I think building the wall is the answer.
And you know, the president said a number of things.
One, he would consider shutting down the government overfunding the wall.
The second is uh it's interesting to watch liberals, they're just apoplectic at Chuck Schumer because he agreed to negotiate funding for the wall.
What they don't know is nothing will ever get done if you don't negotiate and there's not a give or take, and even the president was willing to compromise for full funding of the wall to help dreamers, um, and that didn't work out in the end.
Um and he says, Well, let's put a fence up.
And I'm like, okay, what?
So we can climb over a fence in two seconds.
That doesn't make any sense.
It's not gonna work.
Um, but the bottom line is the president has three and a half billion.
If he gets the five billion he's looking for now, that's eight and a half billion.
And the president uh made a comment recently that you know what, I'll negotiate myself for the wall and get the price down to where I'll be able to get a lot more bang for my buck.
Yes, it's it's absolutely clear now, if it wasn't before um with this caravan that we do need to have the wall and other infrastructure at the border, and we also need to have resources for our immigration enforcement agencies so that they can enforce the law in the border vicinity and in the interior of the country,
uh, so that we aren't such a magnet for illegal immigration, and also reform the asylum system that people are abusing to as a as a pretext to get into the country, even though, as you said, they're just trying to get into the country.
They're not necessarily seeking asylum or or uh to escape persecution.
Um and the Congress needs to do this.
The problem is is that there's just a little bit of time left when we're gonna have Republicans in the House in charge, and they can't agree on uh a funding plan.
Um that's how deep the chasm is within the Republic par Republican Party over what the priority should be enforcement or other types of immigration reforms.
Hopefully they will be able to salvage something to get the executive branch the resources that they need.
But things are only going to get tougher come January when the Democrats are running the House and initiating all the spending bills.
Well, one way they could do it if they wanted to, and we had Louis Gomert on earlier this week is through the reconciliation process, but it seems and you'd only need 50 votes in the Senate, and Mike Pence could be the tie-breaking vote.
But the problem is is that Republicans aren't as rem remember when they did it with Obama.
They did it in what?
They did it in the same lame duck session just before the holidays.
They used reconciliation, and this was after Scott Brown had been brought in as the final vote to defeat Obamacare.
So they figured out their way to do it.
We don't we ought to be playing by the same rules.
You know, you try to put some we need unity within the Republicans.
We need all the Republicans to agree to this, including the Jeff Flakes and a few others that have just, you know, kind of been party poopers on this.
So, you know, the need is urgent, and Congress could do it.
I think the president's doing what he can, and I and I think that the remain in Mexico policy whereby asylum seekers have to stay in Mexico while waiting for their cases to be adjudicated is a good one.
And working with Mexico is obviously critical.
Um but you know, talking about what's ethical, the wall is ethical, yes, but and the most ethical thing is to not have policies that entice people to come all this way to try to get into the United States to, you know, well, if the wall was there, it wouldn't wouldn't have happened.
And then you listen to the hysteria.
First of all, nobody in the media Terry covered this when Obama was doing it like on a monthly basis.
And you know, you got Hollywood liberals and Hathaway, my country gas children.
Um others comparing it uh uh Casio Cortez to the Holocaust for crying out loud and other comparisons that are ridiculous.
What what are what are our agents supposed to do when they're being pelted with rocks, bottles, and other projectiles?
Are they just supposed to stand there and get hit?
And as they're breaking down the wall, are we not supposed to disperse the crowd and just let them rush through the border like they did in southern Mexico?
No, they they did the right thing, Sean.
And to put another moral perspective on it, and you'll never hear the liberals talk about this, but Gallup came out with a survey earlier this month where they said there's 160 million people worldwide.
Three percent of the global population of adults would like to immigrate to the United States, but on Honduras, where the majority of the caravan has come from, 30% of Hondurans, according to Gallup, want to immigrate to the United States.
There's nine million people approximately on Honduras.
So you're talking about 2.7 million people in Honduras alone, who, if they could, would come to the United States.
Most of those people did not get in the caravan.
Most of those people are not trying to illegally cross our border.
Many of those people, I believe, are law abiding people who, even if they do want to come to the United States, would never think of coming here in violation of our law and then living a life of habitual law breaking within the United States of America.
So the question is when we're putting together a de facto immigration policy that our government is actually going to enforce and follow, who should we favor from Honduras?
The person who's willing to illegally cross through Mexico and the United States and then come here and habitually break our laws by not being here legally.
Or should we have a policy that's fair to those 2.7 million people back in Honduras who aren't breaking our laws but would love to come here.
I say let's be fair to the Hondurans that are law abiding people.
The liberals will never tell you that, but that's the people also who are being victimized by the de facto immigration policy of the Washington establishment, which ignores the rule of law and rewards people for breaking the law.
I couldn't agree any more with you.
And you know what?
The hit there's two things that we get with this wall.
Number one, the caravan doesn't exist.
Uh we have, as you've been reading, there have been assaults assaults reported, MS 13 members, they've identified 600 criminals that have infiltrated and tried to mix among the migrants and and caravan uh so that they can get into the country.
Obviously, not with the best intentions of Americans.
They're not there for the better life for themselves and their families, like the overwhelming majority of others, so that's a problem for us.
Is two specific well, three things that I think we've got to consider.
One is we have the right to vet.
Two, and that's for our own national security.
Two, the costs associated with every illegal immigrant in this country is about $70,000 a year.
Educational system, health care system, criminal justice system.
And the next thing we've got to think about is can they take care of themselves?
I think that is a really big important component of it.
All right, we'll come back.
We'll get more thoughts.
Uh Terry Jeffries, Jessica Vaughn, 800, 941 Sean.
All right, as we continue the immigration crisis now at our southern border.
You know, the one that the liberals said was never happening, and Donald Trump was ginning up racial tensions for the midterms.
Yeah, it's happening, and it's causing great strife and conflict and border uh services in Tijuana, they are not equipped to handle what is now become a uh a humanity crisis, and it would be nice to see the world chip in.
Uh, you have a lot of health issues, you've had people assaulted.
Obviously, we've seen the assault on our own border patrol agents.
Um, Jessica, how much does it cost per illegal immigrant if they get into this country illegally?
Oh, well, i it can cost tens of thousands of dollars a year.
Every year, illegal immigration costs federal taxpayers uh almost thirty billion dollars.
And that's not even counting the cost to state taxpayers for schools and other forms of public assistance.
It's a major fiscal drain.
I actually have a way to solve that problem though, because Gavin Newsom ran on free health care for everybody.
No, he did.
It's a sanctuary state.
He comes from the sanctuary city of San Francisco, but it the California is a sanctuary state, and he is putting together a health care plan free, free, free for everybody.
And so I think with that.
Nobody has to pay the taxes, and that's the problem.
I think anybody that gets sick, you know, why put the burden on your state when Gavin is offering it to free with no questions asked?
Everyone go out to California, get your free health care.
Uh, Terry?
Or some of these uh caravan migrants could go to the Hollywood stars to live because those are the people who've been you know telling us we need to let them in.
I gotta let it roll there.
Uh listen, if I don't talk to both of you, have a Merry Christmas.
Thanks so much for being with us, 800 941 Sean, toll-free telephone number.
We'll get to your calls coming up in the next hour.
First, we're gonna check in and say hello to our friend Charlie Daniels.
Uh then we'll hit the phones on this Friday.
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Uh Charlie Daniels, how are you, my friend?
What's going on?
Uh so good to talk to you, my buddy.
So I love the new album.
You it sounds like you've gone back to your your hardcore bluesy roots in in the C D. I've been listening to it and I love it.
We've done that.
That's just another facet of my musical personality, you know.
I'm gonna I don't tell you what I'm gonna get into in the next few years.
You know, I guess this is probably so I went to see Zach Brown.
I met him and I love the his band, and I happen to like his music, and during the night he played devil, went down to Georgia.
And yeah, he does a good job on it.
Yeah.
Well, he does better than me, let's put it that way.
Anyone could do better than me.
So nobody does better than Charlie Daniels.
Nobody does better than Charlie.
You know, and the funny thing is is you once told me, you know, you kind of sped it up over the years.
I don't know if that was by design or what he takes speeding it up on steroids.
It was hilarious.
Well, you know what?
Uh, you were talking about singing it a while ago.
Nobody ever had more fun doing that song than you did.
You did your impersonation of Garth Brooks or heroics, man.
You're jumping all over the stage, up on the jump.
I suppose you're gonna hurt yourself, man.
I was running around the stage like a madman and uh throwing out footballs, banging on the drums, and you're you're all your guys are looking at me like Charlie, what did you let this maniac up here for to ruin our signature song?
Oh my gosh, oh my god, I love you, man.
You we what you have the best guys.
You know, it's so funny.
You have something that you have found in your life that has connected people since I was a kid.
I mean, I grew up on Southern Rock.
I loved it.
I mean, the Allman Brothers and Leonard Skinner and you know, all Marshall Tucker and you and all these great, great bands um that have been out there for you know, and and but you're the longest standing, and you oh and continuous standing.
I mean, uh you'd still do over a hundred dates every year, don't you?
Oh, yeah.
We'll do 108 this year, in fact.
Uh but you know, uh Sean, I'm the same way about this you are.
You love getting in front of a microphone and talking to people.
I love to get in front of a microphone entertaining people.
I mean, it's it's the same thing.
I love what I do.
And when you love what you do, you don't mind going to work.
You hear people say I hate to go to work.
I never hate to go to work.
I always look forward to it.
You know, the thing is, do you have the same experience?
Because when I first got on the radio and that light went on, this whatever whoever I am, it just comes out.
I don't know, I don't even know where it comes from.
My father one day before he died, he said, What where does all this come from?
Where did this come from?
He never understood it.
You're very fortunate to have found yourself in that way to be original because it took me a while to do that.
I was five albums in before I ever let myself sing like myself.
Explain that.
What do you mean by that?
Well, I I you know, when you first start in the music business, uh I don't know how to do this in radio, but it's gonna be you're you you're you start in clubs and stuff, you're playing copy music, and the closer you sound to somebody else's record, the better off you are.
So you try to sound like them.
So when I started doing original recordings, I keep hearing bits and pieces of everybody else's voice, other people's voices coming out, my voice.
Finally, we got to Fire on the Mountain, and like you said before, I said, I'm gonna open my mouth, and whatever comes out is me, and I've been doing that ever since.
And you discover yourself is what you did.
You found out who Sean Hannes.
Well, let me tell you, it was a process too, because I was a kid that listened to late night talk radio, these pioneers.
I stay in touch with my friend Barry Farber and you know, a more acerbic Bob Grant.
And, you know, originally, you know, I would try to be, you know, controversial like them.
Yeah, get off my phone, you creep, you know, and I but I it wasn't my natural style.
And uh you just figure it out over time.
Just it comes out.
You can't fake it four hours a day.
I'm on air four hours a day.
You can't fake it in a two hour show.
No way.
No way.
I totally agree with it.
You found yourself.
You're very fortunate.
You're very blessed.
Very blessed.
Uh you you when somebody hears you, Sean, that's the thing about it too.
When somebody hears you and they know who you are.
You don't say five words, but whatever, but that's Sean Hannity.
That's exactly what you're saying.
By the way, and some people say I the next words out of their mouth is I can't stand that guy.
No, no, no.
You'd be surprised.
You know something I I was thinking today, you're like a lighthouse in a stormy sea, man.
You listen to all this stuff, you get so down and out, you turn you on, you never give up, you never back up, you never say it's enough.
You keep on.
No, I know you can't.
That's what's so wonderful about you.
We can always depend on you, man.
We've always got you know, I do feel like stand on.
And I know you're a very spiritual guy, and I know I could probably learn a lot from you, but I I don't know why I I uh but I do.
I love this country so much.
And I know what works.
We all know what works, and we still make mistakes and pr put people in office that we know their policies are gonna fail, people are gonna get hurt, and everything is basically comes down to simple God given common sense.
It's not that deep or profound.
You don't need a PhD from Harvard.
And I just and there's so much corrupt this there's such a corrupt nature in Washington and especially the news media.
I uh I take great delight being different from them and calling them out.
Well, you are totally different from them, and you do call them out and you do stand for what you believe in.
You stand on your principles, and it's that's uh that's hard to find these days, Sean.
You know that.
I mean, somebody you're not wishy wash, you don't go with the polls, you don't go with the the s subject as you or whatever that happens to be.
You try to find out the truth, and when you find out the truth, you're you know, you stick with it.
And that's that's highly unusual this day and age, and we need that.
We need that, son.
We appreciate you a whole lot of people.
Well, you know what the greatest compliment you can get is Charlie Daniels is on his bus, and I got an email from Charlie Daniels Jr. saying me and Dad are watching your show.
Oh, yeah, well, you know.
That means I'm doing my job.
I don't get to listen to you every day.
I'm out doing stuff, but Charlie, he's got you on every finish, man.
He's good kid.
He is crazy right, you like Sean Hannity.
I wish, you know, if I do wish one thing, and God gives everybody gifts.
I the thing that I can tell you doing radio and TV, and I did one movie recently, I want to do another one, but the thing that I love about music and movies is you can touch people's hearts in ways that you you can't just by verbal or communication.
There's something I you know, you do songs sometimes, patriotic songs, and I look out in the audience and people are crying.
I mean, you you get to them that deep down in their heart and their soul and their solar plexus.
When you see that, what is that what how does that make you feel?
I I feel I feel great.
Uh I feel really great.
I feel like I'm I'm doing something.
Uh it's not it's and it's not a puffed up feeling, it's a very humble feeling.
And I keep running into guys that say, I saw you in Ramadi, I saw you in uh such and such a place in this part of the world, that part of the world.
And that means a lot to me.
You know, it's it's that these guys, when you go among these guys, and you've been among them, Sean, you know what I'm talking about.
They appreciate the fact that you're just there and you're proving you're an American man, you love this country enough to to do the things you do and to say the things you say.
And people understand, people know if you're serious about it or not.
So you're talking about my songs, I am dead serious about them.
You know, when I say if I am just don't believe it, and I'll go straight to hell or something like that.
I mean, I I mean I don't go to hell, but obviously you know what I mean.
Well, let me ask you about that.
No, you know, and by the way, rule 101 of your enter an entertainer is you probably shouldn't do it because you'll alienate some potential audience.
I've been hearing that all my career.
I can't do that.
You know, I can't live by that.
I gotta be me.
I don't do it on stage.
I don't do politics on stage.
I mean, people buy tickets to hear being entertained, and that's what I do, but on I mean, other than playing the songs that I believe in.
But if somebody has my opinion about something, I'm gonna state it.
It everybody should.
This would be a totally completely different country if everybody would just express their opinions and not some piece of stuff they've heard somebody repeat.
I how much stuff do you get in your email that is nothing but just a rewrite of of phrases and things, you know, people cliches, yeah.
And if you found that the word racist and the word uh the word bigot and the word uh fascist don't mean anything anymore because it's used by people who have no idea what it means.
It's like yeah, I say this every two and four years uh at the beginning of every election season.
Get ready.
They're gonna play, it's gonna be racist, sexist, uh, misogynist, xenophobic, homophobic, uh Republicans, conservatives want dirty air, water, they want to kill grandma and kill kids.
I mean, it's that's the same playbook.
But let me say this.
I um one of the great honors of my life and my career, and one of the highlights is uh getting to know you, somebody that I just idolized growing up and love your music, still love it today.
I love this new CD that you're putting out, Bo Weevils.
We're gonna throw it up on Hannity.com.
You got your new book out too, Let's All Make the Day Count.
You have a very strong spiritual uh belief in in God and Christ, and you help people in ways that that I wish I could I'd take a whole hour to just go through the list and not even detail it.
Um, you're a great American and a great friend, sir.
You are a great friend, and I am so proud, and thank God I'm I can call you that, my friend.
You keep on going.
Keep doing what you do.
We need to have your volunteers doing this year.
Alabama is not gonna be beat.
I'm just telling you.
It's not gonna happen.
You're not you're not gonna, it's not gonna happen.
Uh Charlie takes this football seriously, man.
Don't mess with them on game day.
No, no.
But you know, we're we had a bad year, but uh SEC football is the greatest, man.
You got two FEC keeps beating it out tomorrow, Georgia and Alabama.
We'll see what happens.
Well, then they'll tell you a story offline about uh my my oldest in a minute.
But Charlie Daniels, thank you so much for being with us.
We love you.
We have it up on Hannity.com, Bo Weevils, and uh the accompanying book you want to get to.
Great gift for Christmas as well.
Right, Hannity tonight, nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
John Solomon breaking news tonight about well, at least six people with long established ties to the FBI or U.S. intelligence made uh entrees to keep figures in the Trump business organization during his uh presidential campaign.
More spy news, unbelievable.
We'll talk about the fishing expedition of Robert Mueller and also examples of real Russia collusion that the media never wants to talk about.
That's all the time we have left today.
We'll see you tonight at nine back here on Monday.
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