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Nov. 16, 2018 - Sean Hannity Show
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All right, even more problems in Florida.
Of course, they can't get it done in time.
They can't get anything done in time down in Florida.
There's uh a lot of breaking news there.
We'll get to throughout the course of the program.
Uh the Avenati arrest and being charged.
There is a big issue that needs to be dealt with.
I'm going to explain all of that in the course of the show today.
Uh, we got a lot of chaos in the Democratic Party.
Republicans are actually showing some leadership and strength, with uh, I guess now the new minority leader to be, and that would be Kevin McCarthy.
We'll get to that.
Wait till you hear Camela Harris's comment.
It's gonna blow your mind.
She's basically asking, do you know the perception that ICE is the equivalent of the KKK?
Um that exchange is coming in the course of the show as well.
We'll get to all of it.
Let me just give you an update on Florida because it matters to every American here.
You know, we we've we've got to get these elections right.
And if one more election season is ever allowed to go by in Florida and allow Broward and Palm Beach to do what they're doing, we will never ever gonna get an accurate number already as it is.
You know, we it it is it is mind-numbing.
And then, of course, you got activists, judges, justices, apparently one decision made by one judge, the wife of that judge is a Nelson donor over the years.
I mean, there's so much out there, but you know, here we go again.
Another judge is stepped in in the middle of this Florida fiasco with a ruling that could impact Rick Scott and the recount.
Tallahassee federal judge is given voters now until Saturday to fix ballots that were tossed due to conflicting signatures, extending that extending the deadline now for counties to turn in the final election results, including machine results.
Now, the judge said that state law lacks a concrete process for voters to challenge county canvassing boards that decided to reject provisional or vote by mail ballots due to signature mismatches.
Now, I doubt it's ever going to come near the 12,562 vote deficit that Bill Nelson has.
But this is what Marco Rubio was saying.
It's like, all right, so you're down 24-22, you know, five seconds remaining.
You kick the field gold, and now after the fact, the lawyers for the losing team come in and want to argue and change the rules.
That's only worth one point, not three.
And this there is no at the end of this.
Let me tell you what it means.
It's win by any means necessary.
When the lawyers for Gillam and Nelson went in there and said, uh, and they said that, well, that person is an illegal immigrant.
Objection, they want to count that vote.
Uh, we now have a report out in Politico today.
Most experts say no matter how many times they recount the votes.
Andrew Gillam doesn't have a prayer of ever catching Ron DeSantis.
But that, you know, we'll just head right to plan B. And in this case, political reporting, Gillam's hope rides on a series of unlikely events uh tied to his fellow Democratic Senator Bill Nelson filed up a host of lawsuits to broaden the pool of countable ballots by overturning or changing Florida election laws and rules after the game is played.
I that doesn't these are lawmakers.
They don't care about truth.
And you want to talk about sore losers.
All the talk in 2016 of Donald Trump loses.
He's gonna he's gonna contest the uh uh the honesty and the integrity of our electoral process.
Well, now it's the Democrats doing it on a spectacular scale.
Also happening in the state of Georgia as well on that governor's race.
But, you know, if if vote I guess enough votes surface, uh Gillam could still contest the election, filing a lawsuit within 10 Days after the election, being officially certified, that's supposed to happen November 30th.
So we'll see what happens by January, basically is the end here.
But I gotta hope by this time Republicans know what they're up against when you go from a 57,000 vote lead down to a 12,500 vote lead.
You better pick it up then.
And that you just heard from the Palm Beach from Palm Beach County saying they will probably miss the deadline.
As the judge gives voters time to fix ballots with signature issues.
It's unbelievable.
It was one report that we got that Fox News is reporting that it has learned that Karen Walker, the wife of Judge Mark Walker, who ruled in Nelson's favor this morning, has previously donated uh money to Bill Nelson's campaigns, which would raise questions about whether or not he should have recused himself.
Notice it's only Republicans that recuse himself.
You know, in the case of, okay, Jeff Sessions, he had no reason to recuse himself.
The reason he gave at the time was that well, I campaign with Donald Trump.
Doesn't mean he can't be a fair, objective, discerning attorney general.
And that Rod Rosenstein, he was way conflicted in this because he was the one that wrote the letter about James Comey and recommended the firing, and then he signed the fourth and final Pfizer warrant.
And at that point, what else?
You know, you can't be more involved.
He's almost like, well, witness A in on both sides of this.
So now they're gonna give voters more time.
We don't have an exact number that they are putting out there in terms of how many people.
Um it's unknown how many discarded ballots are at stake, but it's at least 3,688, according to election officials.
Lawyers for Nelson filing a motion with the Secretary of State to produce the names of all the people whose mail-in provisional ballots were thrown out.
So I guess we'll find out by one o'clock today.
That same judge will be hearing that.
And in a 34-page ruling that relies on a lot of football metaphors, Walker said the Secretary of State must order supervisors of elections that the state scheme is it applies it to curing mismatched signatures is unconstitutional.
Consider the game of football.
Football fans may quibble about the substance of the rules, but no one quibbles that the rules are necessary to play the game.
And it goes on from there.
So we'll find out.
Doesn't look like there's gonna be enough votes, but I at this point, who can predict anything that won't be done to grab this election, if you will.
Um, you know, also Florida Democrats plan to use altered forms to fix mail ballots across the state deadline.
Now we're finding that little fact out.
Bins filled with ballots are stacked at the Broward County Supervisor of Elections office as employees now counting ballots during the this recount going on there, but a day after Florida's election, that was the Wednesday after the Tuesday, top state races too close to call.
Democratic Party leaders directed staffers and volunteers to share altered election forms with voters to fix signature problems on absentee ballots after the state deadline.
That's another law that they've broken here.
How many laws are broken before anyone ever gets held accountable?
I guess it's just like Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton gets away with anything and everything, every single time.
So we're gonna watch all of this patiently as this unfolds.
Let me go to the issue, and we'll get calls there.
We're gonna take a lot of calls in the course of the program today.
So Michael Avenatti has been arrested for felony domestic violence.
He came out last night, and I think we have the tape and strongly defended himself that he's never done any such thing.
Here's what he said.
I have never struck a woman.
I never will strike a woman.
I have been an advocate for women's rights my entire career, and I'm gonna continue to be an advocate.
I am not going to be intimidated from stopping what I am doing.
I am a father to two beautiful, smart daughters.
I would never disrespect them by touching a woman inappropriately or striking a woman.
I am looking forward to a full investigation, at which point I am confident that I will be fully exonerated.
I also want to thank everyone for their support that has reached out.
You know my character.
You know me as a man, and I appreciate it.
Well, a lot of people would say they know your character, and what he did in the case.
Let me be let me start with this.
I really don't know Michael Avenatti.
I know he's the big star of cable television, and I actually have the number of appearances in my pile here somewhere.
I'll dig it out in a second.
Uh met him once for you know, one minute at a some type of event where I was, I don't know, one of the honorees of something.
I went in and out.
I was wasn't there very long.
You know, I look at the guy, I mean, he's a street fighter, he fights for his client, whatever.
Fine, I have no problem with that whatsoever.
I just wasn't interested in what he was offering.
He tried to bait me a number of times into debating.
I'm just like, I got better things to do, I've got more important issues.
I was covering the deep state at the time.
And uh anyway, but putting all of that aside, this goes down.
Um, and it's it's noticeable by the way, that when the news broke, all these channels that had put him on so often, all of those channels, uh, they weren't really covering it very much.
I'll give you those numbers in a second.
But here's the here's the crux of all of this.
And even Democrats thought Avanotti undercut their case against Kavanaugh.
So on top of other allegations, Professor Ford, remember, she had claimed there was an eye witness in the room when Brett Kavanaugh um, you know, jumped on top of her.
I don't remember the exact allegations.
Eyewitness had never happened.
Other people said it didn't happen.
And there was so there was no corroboration.
But anyways, he came out with the single most outrageous charges against Judge Kavanaugh.
And his client at the time, who ended up changing her story, was suggesting that almost like on a weekend basis, that you had these young high school boys, including Brett Kavanaugh, drugging in the punch and intoxicating with other substances,
these young teenage girls again in high school, and that the boys were lining up, and this was happening regularly, lining up in the halls, waiting their turns to rape unconscious or drugged young teenage girls, and that it happened a lot.
Then the story changed.
Well, I didn't see him put anything in the punch pole, but I saw him give somebody a red solo cup.
Or I saw him near the punch pole.
Well, I didn't see him in a line uh, so to say, and the story changed.
It was so outrageous, and he was so passionate that this has all gone down.
This has all happened here.
And what was missing was any sense of due process or even due diligence on his part getting to the story with his own client.
And at the time, I think it was Alan Dershowitz who said, uh, this he may have to take back this whole, you know, he may have an ethical obligation to withdraw the Switnik affidavit.
It's now being looked at.
We all know by Chuck Crassley has referred Avenatti and Sweatnik for criminal investigation.
So that's going forward.
But here's the thing, and I'm we'll get into this more later.
Is he did not provide Brett Kavanaugh the presumption of innocence a due process.
Now, I'm gonna say something that I'm consistent on.
I don't know anything about what happened in this case with Michael Avenatti.
But he, like anybody, deserves due process and deserves the presumption of innocence.
I'll get into this a little bit more deeply.
Uh if I can reach over here while we uh as the program unfolds.
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All right, as we roll along Sean Hannity show.
I'm back to the point I was making about Michael Avenatti and these charges that have now come up against him and arrested felony domestic violence, confident he'll be exonerated, strong denial.
And I I go back and all of the people that whenever something happens that rush to judgment.
In his case, the most outrageous affidavit by Julie Sweatnik.
He went out publicly.
This had all happened.
She ended up being interviewed, backed off her story dramatically.
Witnesses she said would that would know didn't know, never panned out.
Now there's a criminal investigation or criminal referral from Chuck Rassley.
You think how often this happens.
Richard Jewel, Duke LaCrosse.
You think of Cambridge Police.
You think of Ferguson, Missouri.
Everybody was so sure.
Freddie Gray, it was a slam dunk.
Those six cops were going to jail.
It happens so often.
And I'm not saying this to be personal.
I'm saying this to make a very profound point.
Is that Avenatti deserves due process?
He deserves the presumption of innocence.
In other words, he deserves that which he did not afford, and a lot of other people did not afford.
And that would be Justice Kavanaugh.
And his allegation, his client's allegation, was the most outrageous of them all.
I just have to wonder if he feels differently today about it.
Because he should.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
You know, it's I want to just say one thing.
I take no glee.
And in well, just because Michael Avenatti happens to be somebody I politically disagree with, oh, in the news.
And I I just I have I'm just not that way.
And it's not personal to me in any way, shape, manner, or it's too serious a topic.
Like when it was in the Kavanaugh hearings.
Look, if you want to call in and disagree with me, Ken, uh, and what you think about Avenatti charges, what happened with the Kavanaugh hearings, feel free.
The numbers 800-941 Sean, if you want to call us as always.
Um, but if you're just joining us, Avenatti arrested, felony domestic violence, confident he will be exonerated.
You have Vermont Democrats canceled his events just based on the allegations.
Umcial media just exploded on this thing.
Um we have Stormy Daniels saying that she, these are serious and obviously very troubling allegations, but right now they are just allegations.
She's right, reserved judgment until the investigation.
I agree wholeheartedly with her.
He did give a strong denial that he never hit this woman, that he said he would never ever do anything like that.
Um, but by the way, so did Brett Kavanaugh.
I mean, the guy we saw that testimony.
It this this went to his soul and to his core.
These allegations are really, really serious.
And that's what was so horrible about Ted Kennedy and Robert Bork and the things that Ted Kennedy had said, and all the what happened with Clarence Thomas and his forceful denial.
And that and that we heard the term high-tech lynching, and then Justice Kavanaugh.
And all of these sanctimonious all the stories started to chip away one by one.
In some cases, there were no details at all.
No memory or allegations that, well, I have an eyewitness, and you ask the eyewitness.
I don't recall any such thing ever happening.
And the worst one Was the affidavit, which Alan Dershowitz had said at the time, pretty smart guy, that uh Avenatti may have an ethical obligation to withdraw the affidavit after the accuser that that Avenatti was representing Julie Swetnik walked back some of her explosive allegations.
It's now led to Chuck Rassley now referring Michael Avenatti and Julie Swetnik for a criminal investigation.
You know, there's got to be a reason that one of the Ten Commandments is thou shalt not bear false witness, because it's devastating.
Take any case if you talk about Robert Bork who's passed away, you're going to remember being Borked in what Ted Kennedy said.
I think Clarence Thomas has been one of the finest Supreme Court justices in history.
Amazingly brilliant, smart, and he's that now forever changed his life.
Brett Kavanaugh, his wife, his children, it says now forever changed their lives.
And those allegate with such certainty he was making the case for a client, and apparently didn't even dig down deep enough because in one interview that the client gave his client, Julie Swetnik, she walked back a lot of the main details that had been put in the affidavit.
That's a problem.
That's problematic.
Now, I just want to add one point to this, because this happens a lot.
And some people say, well, Hannity, you know, why would you give him the benefit of the doubt?
Because he, because that is a core value that has served this country well.
You know, you have the right to remain silent, the Miranda case.
That is a become a core value.
You have a right to a defense.
You have a right to presumption of innocence.
You have a right to due and fair process.
Some people, I guess it was Alec Trebek.
I don't even remember this interview.
I think I met him once, interviewed him once, and I remember it just being friendly because I was a fan of Jeopardy.
Said something like, Yeah, I told Hannity I wasn't a full conservative, and he seemed to get mad.
I don't think that ever happened.
I gotta pull that clip.
Um, I just want fundamental fairness.
What I think, but he complained I talked about Hillary, and I said, Yeah, because if you're gonna talk about Russia collusion, you can't ignore the Hillary comparison.
You can't.
If you're going to talk about uh some of very few that literally are writing exonerations before investigations after pulling the case away from field agents themselves and having the top people in the FBI handle Hillary's case,
and they're writing the exoneration in early May of 2016, and then don't interview her until July 2nd of 2016, and then exonerate her with what you've been preparing on July 5th of 2016.
There's a problem.
And then the lead guy in that case that did the interview of Hillary, well, he's also the guy that took on the beginnings of the quote, Trump Russia collusion case.
How do you talk about equal justice under the law if no one else is treated that way?
We know she violated the espionage act.
There's no ambiguity at all.
We know that it is the clearest case for obstruction of justice ever in history with the whole email server scandal, which, by the way, Lindsey Graham says, Oh, you guys in the house, you want to do investigations, you're not gonna be passing bills.
Fine, we're gonna go right back and we're gonna start from the beginning and do what should have been done right.
Hillary Clinton never should have gotten the nomination in 2016.
If the law were applied to her the way it would be applied to all of you, we, the people, she would have been in huge massive trouble, legal trouble, jeopardy, and would not have been and probably and she should have been charged.
Because the evidence is overwhelming, it is incontrovertible, and it is it's all there for everybody to see.
And then the whole story, if we're gonna talk about Russia and Donald Trump, and it looks like that is now coming to an end.
Want to talk about that?
How do you not talk about a phony Clinton bought and paid for dossier?
Want to talk about money and financial shenanigans funneled through a law firm to an op research firm, to an former MI6 agent, but I thought foreign nationals weren't supposed to impact our elections.
Then Russian lies are produced against Trump.
And then if they'll leak to the American public to steal an election by influencing them with outright lies, nothing ever verified or corroborated.
The same documents, bulk of the FISA application warrants were that bought and paid for unverified, uncorroborated dossier.
That you talk about Hillary.
Because it's about equal justice under the law, equal applications of our of our laws.
It's about do we have a two-tier justice system under the law?
And so it all matters.
And then, of course, you know, the fraud on the Pfizer courts.
Then it's used to help circular reporting.
You leak different things from the same document that Christopher Steele, the dossiers put together and to different news organizations, they print it before the election.
Why?
Because they want to hurt Trump.
They want to hurt him with lies and propaganda.
In other words, so they can win.
And then after the election to get a special counsel appointed, which happened, and again, Comey has his own legal jeopardy as far as I'm concerned.
If there's equal justice under the law, that's what matters.
These things matter.
And if you if you can't compare and contrast with treating one group of people one way and another group of people another way.
The great lesson I've learned in my career is that, and I learned it in a in a really deep and profound way in Atlanta.
I've told the story before.
I was there in 1996, the summer Olympics came to Atlanta, Georgia.
Remember never forget counting down.
They had a big clock as you drive through one of the main highways in Atlanta.
You know, a thousand days to the Olympics, 500 days, 400, 50 days, 10 days, you know.
It was actually fun.
It was very cool, great for the city.
They built a beautiful park.
Only downside is you got a horrible backdrop of CNN headquarters.
Just kidding.
But all of a sudden, they have the Olympic Park bombing, and this guy, Richard Jewell, who we thought was a hero.
They put in the paper that, well, he fits the profile of a lone bomber.
He lives with his mother.
I'm like, okay, he lives with his mother.
That doesn't make him a bomber.
What are you talking about?
Makes no sense whatsoever.
Um, I I to me it was absurd.
And I said it on the radio.
Turns out I was the only one with that opinion at the time.
It also turned out that he was listening to me at the time.
And then it turned out after it was all over, and he actually was the hero, he thanked me.
And I went up to do Fox in 96, and he gave me one of his first interviews.
Lynn Wood was his attorney at the time, great attorney.
And I learned a lesson.
Learned a big lesson.
You know, when with the Duke LaCrosse case happened, all those professors at Duke, full page, you know, ads about how basically how guilty these kids were.
Well, they're athletes.
They were whatever.
They had whatever precon, you know, prejudice preconceived notions they had.
Well, I actually took the time, I met, I was covering the story.
So I went and met with the family.
I took the time.
I'm, oh, Hannity, you're not a reporter, you're not a journalist.
We do journalism as talk show hosts.
Yes, we do.
Part of our job.
We're the whole newspaper.
And I looked him in the eye, and I knew something wasn't right.
My gut.
And so many other people rushed to judgment.
Did it in the case in remember Trayvon Martin could look like my son?
Could have been me.
Barack Obama lawyer.
I think he went to Harvard, didn't he?
He's rushing to judgment.
And I talk, I did my own work there too.
Flew down to Florida for it.
Interviewed George Zimmerman.
Then, of course, the case in Ferguson, Missouri.
And I didn't rush the judgment there either.
The people that, you know, Darren Wilson's career is over.
But the people in the news that were rushing to judgment and interviewing these people, yeah, they shot them in the back and cold blood and blah, blah, blah.
That wasn't what happened in that case.
And everyone in the media rushing to judgment.
Freddie Gray, another example, rushing to judgment.
Everyone thought those six cops, I said, and I'm when I did my research and dug down deep on that.
I said, nope, not happening.
And all just went away.
Everybody wrong again.
And the literally the roadkiller reputations that these people leave behind.
It is despicable.
There's got to be a reason.
God picked 10 big commandments with Moses.
And one of them is don't kill, don't steal.
You know, we know whatever.
Honor thy father and mother and love God with all your heart.
They're all good.
They're all right.
I believe it all.
I wish I was better at it.
And I know what's right and wrong.
I even know what I'm doing wrong when I'm doing wrong in my life.
I have since I was a little kid.
And then you have a reason not to bear false witness.
But all these people that went after, I didn't expect to spend this much time on this.
All these people that went after Judge Kavanaugh with a vengeance and with certainty and with passion.
I we have to learn the lesson.
Everybody that says without before we even heard a word or even knew Professor Ford.
So many had claim I'm with her, I believe her.
For only political reasons because they didn't like that Donald Trump, who won the presidency, got to make the appointment.
That's all it was.
It was politics.
And it didn't matter what happened to Kavanaugh, his wife, his children, his family, his friends, his reputation, etc.
And one of those people was Avanati with the Julie Sweatnick allegation.
Now he's facing, he's been arrested on felony domestic violence, and he's confident he will be exonerated.
And like I said in the Cavanaugh, I don't have, I wasn't there.
And by the way, this isn't 36 years ago.
This is in the course of one week.
You know, the one quote, if true, if that turns out to be true, that I've when he said that, well, she struck me first, and another report were told her face was swollen and bruised with red marks on both cheeks, according to TMZ.
And they were told that the woman was on the sidewalk.
I can't believe you did this to me.
I'm going to get a restraining order.
He pulls up five minutes later, runs in the building.
Uh, she hit me first, quote unquote.
We were told he angrily added, this is BS, this is blanking BS.
But Avenatti didn't give the presumption of innocence and due process, didn't even really drill down on the charges that his client was making that they put in an affidavit.
It'll be interesting to see what happens with Grassley's recommendation now to have a criminal referral.
He's made a criminal referral for Aventi and Julie Sweat.
My point is this.
I have to wonder, and there's no there's no antipathy here, animus here, because I say that Michael Avenatti deserves the presumption of innocence that he didn't afford Brett Kavanaugh.
He deserves due process that he didn't do the due diligence that I think an attorney should have done with Sweatnik.
All the other stuff he does, all the TV does, I don't really care what he does.
But these are serious charges.
These are real people and real reputations.
It's gonna be interesting to follow.
All right, we got a lot to get to.
We got the caravan issues, Democratic Party infighting, which is unbelievable.
We'll get to uh all of that in the course of the program today.
Uh we also have an update on Florida when we get back.
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Hour two.
A lot of ground yet to cover today.
The Democratic Party crack up, which is getting very entertaining.
Uh we'll give you the latest on the caravan as well coming up.
We'll have more on Avenati and all the other news of the day.
I want to first go back to Florida, where a judge has now extended the recount deadline.
It's pretty unbelievable.
Here we go again.
Another judge steps in right into the middle of the fiasco down in Florida, and a Tallahassee uh federal court judge gives voters now until this Saturday.
That's that's how many fourteen what 12 days after the election then?
Twelve days after to fix ballots or or 11 days at you know, tossed because of conflicting signatures.
That just extends the deadline for the counties to turn in the final election results.
And you know, we did find out that the judge in this particular case, uh Warren is his name, it weren't massive amounts of money, but the his wife had donated apparently to uh Ben Nelson.
You would think that that might be a little bit of a conflict in time for recusal, but I guess not.
Um his wife Karen donated to Ben Nelson, not much, 250 bucks, but chose where they are politically.
If it was a Republican, I guarantee you there would be a huge, massive, you know, unbelievable outrage spewed all over, you know, fake news, cable TV all the time.
Uh it doesn't matter how many times you recount the votes in the case of governor, Gillam doesn't have a prayer of catching DeSantis.
We went from 57,000 votes ahead for Rick Scott in Broward County, Palm Beach.
They come up with another, what, between them, 100,000 votes?
It's ridiculous, but still, Rick Scott has a what is in terms of recounts, 12,562 massive um amount.
And of course, Palm Beach can't fix their problems, and they try to do a recount.
No, the machine's overheated, so that doesn't work either.
Anyway, here for an update on all the latest.
Uh Brad Todd is with us, senior advisor to Rick Scott's campaign.
Uh Brad, uh, what's the latest on your end?
Well, thanks for having me on today, Sean.
Uh, you know, the machine recount in Florida is now complete.
Governor Scott's lead over Bill Nelson has widened.
He is ahead by 13,427 votes, give or take.
Uh it is now time for Senator Nelson to look at himself in the mirror and decide if he wants to be remembered about for all the things he's done in his career that he's proud of, or does he want to be remembered for something he won't be proud of?
On the signature, on the ruling today by this judge.
How many signature conflict ballots were thrown out?
Do you know a final number?
Well, we'll hold let's let's walk through exactly what it is.
I know your listeners will want to uh be aware of the of the details.
In Florida, if you vote by mail, you can't obviously show an ID by mail.
So the remedy for that is you match your signature.
You submit a signature on your ballot and the election officials match it to the one they have on file from your registration.
If that signature doesn't match they notify you and give you until 5 p.m the day before the election to come in and correct it.
And so that that's the procedure uh in they had to be corrected by five PM before the election.
But what news reports today have uncovered is the Florida Democratic Party staff was asking voters to continue to submit those election signature corrections until Thursday after the election after they already knew what the results were of the election.
So in essentially that's that's in a way stuffing it.
And they had they had were asking voters to do that using a doctored form that misstated when the deadline was again this is the news reports out of the UFC I just pointed that out in the last hour.
That was one thing I forgot to remind people.
Yeah that's all true.
And they extended they gave a phony deadline to change the signature.
And I also heard that they were lobbying to get the people there.
Is that true?
Well they're contacting them that's what they're they're trying they they proactively were contacting them but again this is after they knew what was on the scoreboard.
Yeah and they knew that the deadline had passed and they knew how many votes they were down.
And so what we have here you know is a noncompliance and and I I always say that noncompliance the shadows of noncompliance is where fraud goes to hide.
And so if you want to have an election that has integrity you have to have election officials who abide by the law and abide by the regulations.
And by the way, sixty five counties in Florida Sean have had no problem there have been problems in two of them.
And that includes the panhandle and all the counties that were impacted by Hurricane Michael.
Right that's right.
And by the way, Broward County, which was really slow to get started on the recount, did finish in time today.
The margins in their recount, by the way, helped Senator Scott versus where they were on election night in Broward County.
But Palm Beach County is the only one that didn't complete it.
But luckily Florida's fraud protection laws their election laws have a remedy for that.
They let the county revert back to the number they turned in on Saturday so that if you either complete your recount or your first number counts.
So that's where we are in Palm Beach County I just left the supervisor of elections office there and with a 13,000 vote margin you and I know this is not going to change.
Bill Nelson knows it's not going to change the outcome of this election.
So the only possible reason the only other thing it was but there weren't that many ballots that were mailed in that didn't match that was the point.
If every if every mismatch signature ballot was counted now we the according to the the court today we'd be at five thousand statewide if every one of them and and his order today was limited to those who he says were belatedly notified of the mismatch.
He didn't really define what belatedly means and as a result we appealed that so you still win anyway it does in other words you win under every circumstance by thousands and thousands of votes.
That's right that's right that's correct.
Because I mean now that they this is yeah go ahead.
They'll go ahead yesterday the judge in court looked at the Democrats lawyers and said you know I feel like you're asking me to rewrite Florida's election code here by myself and that's exactly what they're trying to do.
And you and I know why it is they want to get rid of all the anti fraud protections so that in 2020 they have a better chance of winning the presidential election.
They want Florida to be the wild West.
They want to get rid of the anti fraud protections the legislature has put in place here and that's why they're filing these suits.
They know it's not going to change the Senate race.
No Rush was the first person to say that and then I heard a number of other people suggest it and I thought more deeply about it and it makes sense as you go on.
I it just wasn't my are they really playing long bowl knowing that they can't win at all because I sense they want to get this I think you can you know when the judge also when there was an objection when he said well that's in the illegal immigrants ballot and the Gillum and Nelson attorneys objected the judge goes noted that's all the judge said.
I think it tells us everything that we need to know.
We now all the laws that we know are broken.
And the judge ruling in in the first case last Friday, the Florida's Constitution was violated.
Then the history of Broward and Palm Beach, that all factors into it.
It it it does.
You know, and Broward County's election uh administration has a very uh uh spotty past and uh it to say the least.
You're being quite generous.
Go ahead.
And you know, the reason we have these deadlines, you know, that the first deadline that was missed was on on election night, 30 minutes after the polls close.
Every county is supposed to announce the total number of mail and absentee ballots that they have yet to tabulate.
That way, everybody on both sides and the public knows the universe.
They know the pool of people uh who will decide the election defined.
And we have that statute in place, and it's the 30 minute standard is there 30 minutes after the polls closed.
Yeah, they didn't do it.
Because that way nobody knows what the margin is.
That's everybody knows the pool before anybody knows the margin.
Correct.
And in Broward's case, they continued to change that pool the next day and the next day.
And in Palm Beach's case, they continued to change the pool.
Yeah, they got 15,000 there.
I know, 80,000.
That's right.
Last question.
When is the when we expect the final final declaration that Scott is elected, certified, that Ron DeSantis certified as governor.
What's the drop dead date?
I heard it was the 30th now.
It's been stretched out to.
Well, next next next Tuesday is the day that the election should be certified.
Uh there is a manual recount underway now.
Uh, assuming Senator Nelson does not concede and do the right thing.
Uh there's a manual recount underway.
It has to be completed by Sunday.
Uh, and then on Tuesday, who the victor of that recount, which will be Governor Scott and Governor Elect DeSantis, will be certified on Tuesday as define uh define hand recount.
They only look at undervotes and over votes.
Now, an undervote is a ballot where the voter did not mark anyone in that race.
And an overvote is a ballot where the voter marked two people in that race.
Which makes it invalid.
It makes it invalid, correct.
By the way, and if you didn't know and by the way, if you didn't vote for somebody, and you have a mark all the way at the bottom of the page, and this was at the top of the page, they're gonna be arguing that little dot there.
I'm sure that was the intent.
Well, you've you remember the 2000 recount.
Yes, I do very well.
Dimpled, pimpled, you know, uh indented, scattered, smothered, covered.
I get I remember the whole thing.
But we don't have to do this.
Senator Nelson can do the gracious thing and concede.
His lawyer has told other candidates, trailing by fewer votes than this to concede.
And so we just have to ask.
Oh, Mark Elliott has said that the right thing.
He said it's never goes beyond a thousand votes.
It's just it's never gonna be reversed.
Well, we uh he's uh he's an attorney gun for hire, right?
Well, I'm sure he's gonna still bill through the weekend, even if it doesn't change.
Well, I think based on everything we've seen, they they don't care.
If they they're hoping and praying that somehow they're gonna get the right judge that makes the wrong ruling and doesn't obey the laws of Florida.
You know, I like Marco Rubio's analogy, which is well, it's 24-22, and the team that's down kicks the field gold in the last seconds of the game, and then all of a sudden you bring in Mark Ellias and his team of lawyers, and they want to argue, well, that field gold should only be worth one point, not three, and the loser should be the winner.
That's right.
That's right.
Uh the game is over, the scores on the board, and and and they're asking the league to reinterpret the rules.
Uh that that's the situation.
All right, hang on the line one second.
We have one uh question off air I've got to ask you.
Brad Todd is uh partner at On Message uh Inc.
and senior advisor to Rick Scott's campaign.
Thank you.
A lot of information.
We appreciate it, and we'll have obviously more on this tonight on Hannity uh nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel.
Unbelievable.
I mean, when you read all the it is unbelievable.
Um by the way, Republicans are getting a backbone.
I'm gonna tell you about Democratic chaos in a minute.
Kevin McCarthy, all right, so he won his race.
Congratulations for House Minority Leader.
Um, And he's making funding the wall in this lame duck session of Congress the top priority.
He's introduced his Build the Wall, Enforce the Law Act.
It provides 23.4 billion for wall construction.
That's the full funding.
5.5 billion in funding available immediately.
16.6 building dedicated to physical barriers.
The rest, technology, operations, infrastructure, uh, manpower, all associated with border security.
Um the hard part is it does, you know, how does this pass the Senate, even with Mitch McConnell's increased majority since McConnell refuses to just end the filibuster rule, which he should have done a long time ago.
I mean, it's unbelievable the things he that they get away with.
Except for judges.
He's McConnell's been great on judges.
I will say that to him.
All right, 800 uh 941 Sean, toll-free telephone number.
We'll have the latest on this caravan.
They're expecting another 900 to a thousand that have been able to find transportation up to the uh border, the southern border.
So that means we had 80 yesterday, now maybe up to a thousand more coming in the next next day or two.
We'll update you on that coming up.
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I promise next half hour we're going to take a lot of calls.
It's not a done deal for Nancy Pelosi.
You have uh Congresswoman, Marsha Fudge of Ohio saying that she's overwhelmed by the support that many of her colleagues have for her entering the race for House Speaker.
That's a big deal.
Now the Democrats are going to fall in line.
I mean, oh, Kristen Cinema immediately, who said she wasn't going to vote for Chuck Schumer, meets him, falls in line within seconds.
Which I thought was pretty interesting.
But, you know, you have all these anti-Pelosi Democrats.
They're now saying they want somebody else besides her.
Many of them actually ran and on the platform saying that they wouldn't vote for her.
One Pelosi detractor, this was in the Hill, Kathleen Rice making the case that there are other ways to secure female leadership at the very top of the party.
To those who say this is an issue of gender, that's just not true.
I'm a woman.
A lot of our new members are women, and they should not be made to feel that they're anti uh anti-woman if they don't vote for Nancy Pelosi.
We have an enormous number of talented women in the caucus.
An enormous number.
Now you have uh so in that sense, I think she's got a pretty tough, you know.
I think she's got a hard time.
She's saying she thinks she has it, but I'm not sure she does.
And you have, you know, people, I know James Kleinburn has been out there, others have been out there, Elijah Cummings and Stennie Hoyer, and they're all trying to help her.
But, you know, some of the moderates, like Tim Ryan of Ohio and Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, moderates, meaning they're not, they they had to say things in their district, but they didn't really mean the most times.
But anyway, they're publicly voicing encouragement for another person to run.
In this case, Marsha uh Fudge is supposed to run.
Moulton is the leader of the resistance to Pelosi, and he said the kind of new leader that we need for this party.
And Mull is now uh now uh Marsha Fudge is is mulling a bid.
Several prominent Democrats stepping forward to back Pelosi.
Eric Holder now is he's stepped in and Bobby Rush, Maxine Waters.
And Fudge is now saying she's considering it.
You know, I won't give myself a hard Friday deadline, but it'll be close to that, or I'll go home for Thanksgiving and talk to my family.
It's gonna be interesting.
All right, when we come back, a lot more ground to get to.
We'll get the inside scoop on what is going on in Congress.
Then we'll get to your calls uh in the next.
Then we're going to get to the caravan.
A thousand more people expected as we continue.
Music You'll hear what everyone really thinks in DC.
This is the Sean Hannity show.
Bottom line, Madame Leaner.
Okay.
If the election were held today on the House floor, do you have the votes to be elected speaker?
Yes.
I intend to win the speakership with Democratic votes.
Uh if that was your question.
That was your question.
Uh the the um uh I have overwhelming support uh in my caucus uh to be speaker of the house.
On the other hand, here uh we have uh celebrating a great victory uh for the Democratic Party, but more importantly, for the American people.
Every place I go, people say, and not even go, just coming in and every means of communication.
Thank you for saving America.
And I convey that gratitude to my colleagues, uh to the grassroots people who are so effective in getting out that vote, and particularly uh to our uh to our candidates.
Reverend Sharpton, thank you for saving America.
You have a hand, Nancy Pelosi.
You know, uh to my Democratic friends.
If you want to look backward, we're all gonna look backward.
Uh, I want to know why the FBI reached the conclusion along with the Department of Justice that uh Hillary Clinton didn't commit a crime.
Was it because of political bias?
If you really wanted to stop Trump, how in the world could you indict her?
Was the reason she wasn't indicted is because they wanted to make sure that uh they stopped Trump?
And how can you stop him if you indict her?
Did the Department of Justice and the FBI use a uh document paid for by the Democratic Party, uh researched by a foreign agent uh to get a warrant against an American citizen uh that was uh inappropriate, potentially unlawful.
We need a special counsel to look at all this, but I intend to look at it.
I'm gonna look at it.
If you're gonna keep plowing everything up at 2016, count me in.
If you want to look for it, I'll look for it.
If you want to look back, we're gonna all look back uh to everything and everybody, not just Trump.
President said he has no intention of firing Mueller.
It looks like some agreement has been made by the reports I read between the president's lawyers and the special counsel, written answers.
That would mean this is now coming to an end, at least in my mind.
Well, this is a manufactured problem.
President Trump is not gonna fire Mueller.
Muller's gonna be allowed to do his job, and we need conservative judges on the bench as many as we can as often as we can get them.
I don't know what Senator Grassley's gonna do.
He's been a great chairman of the committee.
If I'm chairman next year, we're gonna do judges, judges, and more judges.
And uh at the end of the day, I am convinced that uh Mr. Mueller will be allowed to do his job.
I've seen not one scintilla evidence of collusion.
The obstruction of justice thing never made any sense to me.
You didn't fire somebody uh who works uh as a political appointment.
Uh the FBI director could be fired for almost any reason, and the Democrats wanted Comey fired.
So I feel good about everything right now.
All right, that was uh Nancy Pelosi.
Oh, uh every place I go, people thank me for saving America.
She's gotta be kidding.
And I have an overwhelming support to be speaker.
Well, she actually doesn't have overwhelming support.
We'll find out pretty soon.
Uh Lindsay Graham saying, okay, well, we're gonna look into the FBI and the Clinton email investigation.
By the way, that opens the door to everything.
That's where it all began.
The exoneration before investigation, because Hillary should have won a hundred million to zero, according to Peter Struck at the time, and him saying That Trump is he's not gonna fire Mueller.
Anyway, I just want to get a quick update on what's going on in Congress.
And we have with us Representative Warren Davidson.
He's with Ohio's 8th District, Army vet, went to the Military Academy at West Point, then went back to Ohio helping with family manufacturing business, got his MBA from uh Notre Dame.
Uh thank you, sir for being with us.
Appreciate it.
And uh how you liking things in DC.
Well, it's an honor to be here.
Uh Sean, it's an honor to be on your show.
And uh I certainly would like it like it more if uh we were gonna be staying on offense last year.
But you know, hey, you gotta play offense to stay on offense.
Yeah, well, you do.
So what do you see happening with the Democrats?
It seems like they don't have the votes.
Now, there was one interesting little tidbit that the president gave out, and that was well, maybe you know, she's you know, she should she's worked hard.
She shouldn't not she shouldn't lose the speakership, and maybe we'll have to get a couple of Republican votes for her.
Is that gonna happen?
Well, you know, if Maxine was up, she might be a tough uh tough uh speaker for Republicans to say no to, but you know, we'll we'll let them fight amongst themselves as to who's gonna lead their own.
If the president called you and said, Warren, I need your help.
Nancy Pelosi for speaker, what do you say?
Well, I I I I think we get the the way that he's uh he's baiting the Democrats into making bad decisions for their party.
And you know, the reality is Tim Ryan from Ohio knows that Democrats aren't winning Ohio with Nancy Pelosi as speaker.
Uh Connor Lamb from Western Pennsylvania knows Democrats aren't gonna win Western PA with Nancy Pelosi as speaker.
And so while they have control of the House, if they have any hope of it, they're gonna have to turn away from this uh far left uh outside of historical Democratic Party uh uh path that the they've been on, uh that Barack Obama set them on and turn back to the party that John F. Kennedy led and uh Americans, some of our seniors think of the Democratic Party, but the reality is the younger part of the party is way left of the historic Democratic Party.
Well, let me ask you this, and I know your fellow Republican went up against Kevin McCarthy, but uh I'm now hearing that in fact Jim Jordan might actually become was or being floated for the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.
Um that would be interesting, or the le m minority leader there.
Um House of Republicans introducing a border wall bill that can be passed through reconciliation.
Um now Kevin McCarthy's proposing that.
Can that happen?
Well, I hope uh uh the the stronger version of that comes through.
We got 193 votes for uh the Good Lap bill, and I think we could take that base piece and make it stronger.
I I looked through the language that that uh leader McCarthy proposed, and uh the good news is he's willing to try to do something because I I was fearing that we were just gonna gonna go on out of here uh quietly into the good night, and of course we're not supposed to do that.
We're we've we're on offense for at least four more weeks, and we ought to play as much offense as we can.
And uh one of the things that still is yet to be resolved is funding the government for the the full year, uh, which is one of the key duties of Congress.
And we haven't secured the border all the way.
And and uh my fear is that we just built a wall, that we don't deal with the sanctuary policies and some of the other things that you could build a wall as high as the stratosphere and as thick as half the state of Texas if you don't deal with the sanctuaries on this side of it.
Uh there's still a big gap between legal and illegal immigration.
Uh you're gonna have a black market.
So if there's a big gap between supply and demand, uh it's gonna be filled.
Uh anyone with the uh economics uh mindset will see it.
And so we've got to deal with those sanctuary policies too.
The president laid out four principles, and I hope he fights to the fights to the mat for it.
All right, well, best of luck to you and the Republicans have a lot of work to do from my perspective from now until the end of this Congress, and uh they need to get it done.
If we can use the reconciliation process to get the other 23 billion the president wants for the wall, uh I think it would be a good idea and a you know, go out on a high note in that sense, and then be ready.
You probably have to work harder as the Democrats have no agenda except to hate Trump, investigate, investigate, investigate, and do nothing for the American people.
So it shouldn't be hard to counter that.
Oh, you're spot on, absolutely.
All right, appreciate it.
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Uh we say hi to Michelle is in Connecticut.
Michelle, hi, how are you?
Glad you called, and uh welcome to the program.
Thank you so much, and thank you so much for highlighting the real cost of illegal immigration, and you do it so brilliantly.
I I saw you do it the other night.
Um, my question, How many are we gonna accept?
And what do they do?
Where do they go if we don't accept them?
Do they just turn around and walk back?
And I wanted to know if anybody really understands how many diseases these people are bringing here.
There's polio TB.
Listen, I'm not worried about the diseases.
I listen here's the problem.
Mexico is, you know, they had the ability to offer asylum and ask asylum there.
They didn't want it.
They want it here.
And even Mexico offered some, you know, Southern Mexican, uh, Mexico work permits for people.
They didn't want that either.
Mexico, though, still refuses to stop the caravan in its tracks, make sure everybody turns around.
What the fear is is all right, we've had the first 80 yesterday.
In the next two days, we're gonna have uh we expect another 900 or a thousand because they've been able to get some type of transportation.
This means it's gonna be ongoing.
Here's my great fear.
What if, God forbid what they did at the southern border of Mexico, they do here.
I don't want anybody in that caravan getting hurt.
And based on what top-ranking officials of Mexico have said, and what our own Department of Homeland Security have said is that a lot of unsavory characters, some 300 of them have mixed in with the caravan of people that probably just want to have a better life.
All right, 800 941 Sean is our number.
You want to be a part of the program.
Jane is in Scottsdale in Arizona.
Jane, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Oh, I'm fine, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
Thank you.
I was chartling to myself about uh Avenatti and how he is such a terrible victim at the hands of this woman because he's wrongfully accused, and that she's never been a movie, and he's just innocent victim.
How odd that this is the same man that was after Brett Kavanaugh.
He's guilty until he's proven innocent.
I love the hand of God.
Well, look, I mean, I I'm I'm sure there are people, and thank you for the call that are taking glee in what's happening.
Uh I don't take any glee in this.
I I just don't.
Um, I just, you know, if something horrible like this happened, uh, I hope justice is served.
If it didn't happen, I hope that justice is served.
I don't think anybody should rush the judgment in these cases.
I've given look, I've given you all the high-profile cases that have impacted my life.
Everything from Richard Jewell, the so-called Olympic bomber that he wasn't, you know, we saw Duke LaCrosse, we saw UVA, we saw Cambridge Police, we saw Trayvon and Zimmerman, we saw Ferguson, Missouri, uh Baltimore, Freddie Gray.
Everybody, everybody thinks they know.
They don't want to, you gotta wait.
You gotta watch.
You gotta look at it, and you gotta see.
I mean, I remember that Duke LaCrosse.
I actually took the time in a lot of these case cases to actually not only talk to, but then go see.
I went down to Florida, interviewed George Zimmerman.
I interviewed the families.
I went to their home in the Duke LaCrosse case, and I spoke to some of the families, some of the kids, and got their side of the story.
I try to reach out to the other side to get their side of things.
So you just gotta, everybody's gotta take at least a deep breath here.
But it is the irony is right there.
You're right.
I don't wish anybody ill in life.
I it's not who I am, who I ever want to be.
But I do believe in justice.
We should have equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws.
And I just maybe, maybe today he wishes.
It would be the best question I think anyone could ever ask Avenatti hey, um, do you regret what you did now?
Rushing to judgment because your client changed her story.
And so-called witnesses didn't exist.
One didn't even know your client.
And he was out there with a certainty this happened.
And they were what they were claiming, it didn't make any sense that almost on a weekly uh basis, weekend basis, that you know, boys were drugging girls, getting them wasted, lining up in halls and taking their turns to gang rape drug girls, teenage girls, and that it never got out, but it happened that often.
It was a uh it was a lie on a spectacular level.
Didn't make sense that nobody told their mom, their dad, or nobody said what was going on, or the police or a teacher or somebody.
When you're dealing with kids, usually if if they do one little thing wrong, it's around the school in about 30 seconds.
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Uh Don Lake Ronconcuma.
Big Don, welcome aboard.
How are you, sir?
It's been a while.
Hey, Sean, it has been a while.
I just want to congratulate you on your high popularity ratings.
And those are ratings done by real viewership, not absentee ballots.
Yeah, I know.
The real they actually matter a little more.
I kind of I will I will concede the point.
Well said.
You have an incredible cruise on TV and radio, but you already know that.
Listen, I don't know.
Just not much time.
But uh looks like Karma has a new name, and it's Michael Abenati.
And I have to agree with you, he does deserve uh to get a fair uh fair shake.
But I'll tell you, when I heard that news about him being arrested, it was it made me so aggravated when he put that poor Kavanaugh family through.
Yeah.
And in retrospect, if you listen to what he said and you listen to what Kavanaugh said, you know, two very passionate denials.
Right.
And if somebody's denying it, okay, we stand on that.
Then you look at the facts.
We don't have to go back 40 years.
Eventually, we will find out in all likelihood who the anonymous woman happens to be and whether or not there are injuries has been reported by some in the press.
We'll find all we'll find that truth out.
But in the meantime, it is an abject lesson for everybody.
Uh, you know, what I will tell you that the Duke Lacrosse case was probably the worst.
You had all of these professors at Duke, full page ads they took out.
They thought those athletes, you know, we're gonna put them in their place, these cocky jocks that think they're blank doesn't stink.
They wanted uh camera time, Sean, and uh they got it.
But they were uh they should look like morons.
A lot of but but the problem is lives get ruined.
I I look I actually think there's a reason that one of the big commandments is thou shalt not bear false witness.
Yeah, I really do, because it destroys you.
It can destroy people.
You know, Clarence Thomas, here it is, what, 25 years later?
What was it?
90, I forget the year.
18.
25 years later.
Yeah.
And we're Still talking about what happened to him and when he had to defend himself.
Yep.
You know, Robert Bork went to his grave, Ted Kennedy slandered and smeared and besmirched and lied through his teeth.
Mr. Chapaquitic himself.
Yeah.
You know?
All right.
Thanks.
Uh always good to hear from you.
Don Link Ron Concumber appreciate it.
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I I just cannot get over.
There is uh California Senator Kamala Harris asking the acting ICE director if he's aware of the perception that ICE is the KKK.
To get reaction, we have Jessica Vaughn, director of policy studies for the Center for Immigration Studies.
Uh Jonathan Gillam, former FBI agent, federal air marshal, author of Sheep No More, Brandon Judd is the president of the National Border Patrol Council, 20-year active border patrol veteran.
Um thank you all for being with us.
Let me start with you, if I might, Brandon, and ask you.
I I've been down to the border about 12, 13 times.
I don't know the exact amount.
From the Rio Grande all the way to San Diego, many, many places in between.
What I've witnessed myself, I've witnessed, have on camera have video of a gang member being arrested.
Uh I have video of drug warehouses that are massive, Florida sealed, Florida ceiling drugs that were literally being brought into this country and targeting, I would argue, our children in in ways that are unimaginable, those so many of them.
And I've seen tunnels dug and I've seen all sorts of things.
Helicopter, boats, all terrain vehicles, horseback, walking, done it all.
My question to you is how do you react to what she said?
It's it's upsetting.
The mainstream media would have you believe that all of these people that are crossing the border illegally are just poor, innocent individuals looking for a better life.
And while some of that is true, I can personally tell you, and like what you just illustrated right there, there is an awful lot of very bad actors that are crossing the border illegally.
Just a couple months ago, um we we arrested an individual that had his eight-year-old daughter that had a conviction in the United States for rape, and he was bringing his eight-year-old daughter uh uh across the border.
Of course, we had to separate those two individuals.
These are the types of things that border patrol agents face all the time.
And to have to listen to this rhetoric about how we're bad people, how we're Nazis, it's absolutely ridiculous.
We have had agents that have lost their likes going into the Colorado River to try to save um illegal aliens.
We do it compassionately, compassionately, we do it well, and it you you cannot demonize us like that.
I sat through Jonathan Gillam, a security briefing.
I've played it many times.
I won't take the time now.
Maybe I'll show it again on TV tonight, where in the course of a seven-year period, I was with Governor Rick Perry.
This was the this was the very hearing that Barack Obama was invited to, and the Democrats had a very different point of view on immigration during the Obama years, and it's totally shifted and changed to open borders, sanctuary cities, uh now wanting to eliminate ICE.
But I sat there, 642,000 crimes committed against Texans alone, some not severe, some very severe, including murder.
So uh those are their statistics.
That's the numbers they had.
Nobody's ever challenged those numbers because they're right.
This is coming straight from law enforcement.
I sat in the briefing with the governor and those that are on the ground.
That's a lot of crime coming into the country.
Now we've been warned by the Department of Homeland Security that there are amongst this caravan, and and let's say 99% just want a better life for themselves, their families, their kids, and we're the land of opportunity to them.
I get it, but among them are some 300 criminals and dangerous individuals that have mixed in with this caravan.
Yeah, you know, Sean, when when I was in the SEAL teams, uh I worked in and out of Central South America.
I was with SIL team 4, and that's what we did before 9-11 and the shift to the war on terror.
And uh, we dealt a lot in Honduras, um, down in Colombia, uh, Mexico, uh, all kinds of places down there where the governments had failed.
And all the money that we give to them goes to the governments and and goes to the politicians and goes to the already wealthy.
This has been uh long uh debated and this thing has been coming uh for a long time where people would uh start moving towards the border.
The the thing, and I know that Brandon is going to be shaking his head when I say this.
The thing about this is that it can be controlled if realistic effective policies are allowed to be put in place.
But from all the way back when I was down there in Central South America looking at this, asking myself, why is this allowed that to happen?
Why is this being allowed to build up?
We we fund these governments that don't do anything but to make their countries better, and we don't do anything to secure our own borders.
Put just putting up a wall would stop the majority of this stuff from ever happening.
The war on drugs, the war on terror, the immigration issue, it would all come to a quick halt.
Now, they would always try to find different ways to get over the wall or under the wall, but those are new challenges that we could face right now, and for the my entire life and my career in law enforcement and in military, nobody's done anything.
And and every time they try it, you get rhetoric like you just heard earlier when you started the show.
Well, it's just the funny thing is, and um I'll play this after I talk to Jessica.
Those that have those Democrats sound like Trump just during the Obama years.
But Jessica, you st this is what your group does.
You study this day in and day out.
What is the impact to the American people?
And in any regard, you you have discovered.
Well, there are a lot of different impacts.
The first is on taxpayers, because um we end up providing funds for education, uh public health, there are public safety costs, uh, there are uh uh public assistance programs that end up going to illegal aliens and to the the families that they start when we allow them to get away with living here.
There are also lost job opportunities for Americans who would be doing the work that employers uh are bypassing them in order to hire uh cheaper illegal aliens.
And there's the national security and public safety risk that uh we don't know who these people are coming in, and right now our border agencies are absolutely overwhelmed with the number of people coming.
There were six hundred and fifty people caught in just the cup last couple days in the Yuma sector, and they don't have the ability to screen all these people to find out if they're coming to be a bus boy or if they're coming to join up with MS-13 or some other more nefarious purpose.
This is a huge problem, and it's it's an affront to Americans, but it's also an affront to the millions of legal immigrants who are being sponsored by family members uh who are waiting in line.
And and they are the ones that Senator Harris and others are kind of trying to whip up against immigration enforcement, and uh even though it is the open borders advocates who are making people fear enforcement by telling these tales and and uh equating immigration enforcement with the KKK and Nazis and so on, they're the ones stoking fear.
But the truth is that immigrants don't want to live in communities where they're gonna be preyed on by MS-13, which has gotten in here because of catch and release policies or um, well, let me let me just uh in light of everything Kamala Harris has said, let's play Democrats because they sound an awful lot like Trump.
And by the way, this was not long ago.
This these cuts, these statements were made during the Obama years.
I voted uh uh numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a uh a barrier to try to prevent um illegal immigrants from coming in.
People who enter the United States without our permission are illegal aliens, and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who entered the U.S. legally.
Those who enter our country legally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law.
And because we live in an age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we cannot allow people to pour into the U.S. undetected, undocumented, and unchecked.
I think that pretty much sums it up, doesn't it, Brandon Judd?
You're a bad guy for finding those those.
You know, I am a horrible person for actually playing them in their own words.
I you know what?
You're right.
I should I'm going straight to hell.
No doubt about it.
You are.
You are.
it's crazy.
It's insane to think that it was politically expedient a couple years ago, but all of a sudden it's not anymore.
And that border security is is a four-letter word.
This is this is it's crazy to think of this, and it's crazy that we demonize our good law enforcement officers and agents that all they want to do is protect citizens of the United States.
And and frankly, they just want to protect the people that are.
Not only do they do that, they they sacrifice a lot.
They they probably all would make more money in the private sector.
It's a dangerous job.
Some of these guys, as you pointed out, get killed.
You know, I I've I've interviewed too many angel families here on this program on Hannity the TV show that have lost their their sons and daughters.
You want to talk about s separation?
That's permanent separation, Jonathan.
That they'll never see their kids again.
And in large in many cases, immigrants that had already committed crimes that were protected by quote sanctuary city status that allowed them to stay in the country to commit more crimes and even worse crimes in some cases.
Yeah, and you know there's the statistics, you can't trust statistics that the government puts out.
You can't trust politicians.
We all know that.
Um and uh a fine statistic of this is when you know you say this many people have been killed by illegal aliens.
Well, one is the only statistic we really need to know is that one person or one border patrol agent were were killed because these policies are not effective.
And I I'll give everybody a a good quick example.
You know, we hear every year when FBI comes down, they testify about terrorism investigations.
They say we have one thousand terrorism investigations at any given time.
Out of all those investigations, only a handful are actually terrorist related uh once they're vetted out.
But that statistic is never told.
They say 300 out of 7,000 are bad people.
We have no true way of knowing that because none of them are vetted at all.
That's the scary part.
All right, quick break right back.
We'll continue.
Uh more on the influx, the caravan.
We're expecting in the next two days another thousand migrants to arrive at the border, and uh they're all gonna c claim asylum.
They're apparently they've all been coached to do so.
And what's gonna happen with them from there will continue on the other side of this 800 nine four-one Sean is our toll-free number.
We'll also get your calls in final half hour, a lot more on Avenatti versus Kavanaugh, and of course, watching Florida very, very closely as and does the White House need anybody in the press room.
Why do they need a White House press room?
Maybe they can wait across the street, and if the president or Sarah Sanders wants to talk to them, they can wait there.
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As we continue discussing another what, 1,000 now expected to arrive at the border, uh, members of the caravan, some that have been able to split off a little bit, get rides up here.
We continue with Jessica Vaughn, director of a policy studies center for immigration, Jonathan Gillum, Brandon Judd, uh Brandon, of course, president of the National Border Patrol Council, and Jonathan, former FBI uh Federal Marshal.
So we're expecting all these other people that are going to be coming, and if they go to a port of entry, they're allowed to apply for asylum.
Jessica, what does that mean?
Does that ultimately guarantee That however many thousands, estimates from seven to fifteen thousand people get asylum.
It could mean that.
Uh it depends on uh how uh the Department of Homeland Security is going to view these cases in light of the fact that um they've come a long way through Mexico and had the opportunity to apply for asylum there.
What happens is is that people have figured out that if you make it to U.S. soil and say that you have a fear of return, that there's about a ninety percent chance that you're going to be allowed into the United States.
But my understanding has always been that they have to apply for asylum in the first country they arrive in.
That would be Mexico in this case.
That's generally understood um to be what's expected of people seeking safe haven.
Um and I think that well, uh Jeff Sessions uh gave some guidance to asylum officers that they should consider that when getting uh when reviewing these claims for asylum.
But look that what they want, they don't really want asylum.
They want to get into the United States.
Half the people that we let in who claimed a fear of return will not even fill out the asylum application form.
Half of them will not show up at their court hearing.
And if they do, it turns out that only about ten percent of them will be found qualified for asylum, but they just abscond from their proceedings and they don't go home when removed by a judge.
The idea is to get here, get into the country, and they they know that employers can get away with hiring them, and they'll be able to live here almost indefinitely uh joining the larger illegal population.
And as long as we have these policies, the biggest wall uh is not going to stop these caravans.
I wish I can go further.
We uh we are just out of time.
Thank you both for being with us.
We appreciate it, Jessica.
Thank you.
Jonathan, thank you.
Brandon, all the best to you.
It's unbelievable that we even have to discuss what Kamala Harris had to say.
Uh all right, when we come back, we're gonna get to your phone calls.
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Is it in the top three?
I would say it's like number two.
Number what's number one?
I don't even want to say that on air.
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Uh all right.
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Don't say that.
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And you sit, you talk, you get the timeshare, and however many years later, let's just say over a decade.
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It's a nightmare.
You're not that old.
You um you all of a sudden you're paying every year for maintenance, right?
Every year.
Okay, and you never go back.
I don't.
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If the president was smart, if he wasn't so arrogant, he would see the writing On the wall, and he would pull this nomination immediately.
We're not talking about a mere um accusation or allegation.
And here's another important point.
This isn't going to be adjudicated in one day or even two days.
I have never struck a woman.
I never will strike a woman.
If you read further in the declaration, are far more specific and uh relating to Brad Kavanaugh's conduct uh towards women in general, uh, including the attempts to uh drug uh women by placing uh grain alcohol and/or drugs in uh basically the punch at these parties uh that many of these women ended up getting raped, unfortunately.
I mean, the details in this declaration are specific.
Uh they are shocking, uh, but above all else, they are true.
This confirmation process has become a national disgrace.
The Constitution gives the Senate an important role in the confirmation process.
But you have replaced advice and consent with search and destroy.
This has destroyed my family and my good name.
A good name put up built up through decades of very hard work and public service at the highest levels of the American government.
Because she has firm a firm recollection of specific conduct by Brett Kavanaugh and Mark Judge.
And let me also say this.
Brett Kavanaugh, in my opinion, has zero credibility.
This man is an absolute liar.
He's lied about big things and he's lied about small things.
I've never sexually assaulted anyone.
This guy has lied repeatedly throughout the process.
Fox News, the Synod Judiciary Committee.
I've never sexually assaulted anyone.
Not in high school.
Not ever.
I've always treated women with dignity and respect.
He is not a genuine person.
He is lying repeatedly about drinking too much.
I mean, let me get this straight.
All of these women are liars.
His friends from Yale Law School, they're liars.
The only person that's telling the truth, the only person that's telling the truth is Brett Kavanaugh.
Listen to the people who've known me best through my whole life.
The women who've known me since high school, the 65 who overnight signed a letter from high school saying I always treated them with dignity and respect.
Does he want America to believe that the only thing that he did until well into his college years was effectively uh kiss or French kiss a woman?
Is that what he wants America to believe?
Well, because I don't believe it.
I have been an advocate for women's rights my entire career, and I'm going to continue to be an advocate.
I am not going to be intimidated from stopping what I am doing.
This is a circus.
The consequences will extend long past my nomination.
The consequences will be with us for decades.
I will not be intimidated into withdrawing from this process.
You've tried hard.
You've given it your all.
No one can question your effort.
But your coordinated and well-funded effort to destroy my good name and destroy my family will not drive me out.
I am innocent of this charge.
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Obviously, this has to do with Michael Avenatti, has been arrested, domestic violence arrest, if true.
Um even the ladies of the view say he deserves to be raked over the coals.
I'm going to get to that side of it in a second.
I want to just be clear, as I said earlier in the program today.
I I ran into Michael once.
Never was that interested in how or why he was doing his story.
That's fine.
All the other media just fell in love with him, and he was the next media star.
It's not about him.
It's there's something far more profound and much deeper in play here than him personally.
So I'm I almost want to take him out, although you can't take it at him out of it because of what has happened here.
Um he seemed to be suggesting in what he said last night that you know it was uh gross misunderstanding.
I think that's important.
He said he's never hit a woman.
He would never ever do anything like that.
His whole life has been dedicated to protecting women.
LAPD now telling sources, TMZ has reported that they observed injuries on the face of the alleged victim in this case, and have now obtained protective orders that forbid Avenatti from going anywhere near this person who is still anonymous.
But um, and you know, it's this isn't some what you've got here is serious allegations, but not from 40 years ago.
This is the same week, same day.
And if the quotes are true, she hit me first, and all of that.
If that turns out to be true, that is going to be, I think, uh pretty devastating to anybody.
But I want to take that out of it.
The most absurd, obscene, outrageous.
When you go back to the Kavanaugh hearings, allegations that were made were made by his client, Julie Swetnick.
And that's where, you know, that girls almost on a regular weekend basis were getting spiked punch that these high school boys were drugging them.
And now the story changed, but then the boys would line up in the halls and they would wait to take their turns and gang rape these girls.
And again, it happened almost on a regular basis.
Now, when the investigation began, well, two of the people, one was dead, the other one said I had no idea who Julie Sweatnick is, and there was never any corroborating evidence.
And on the other side of that, you have her story changed.
She backed off a lot of her explosive allegations when she was finally interviewed.
And at this point, Chuck Grassley has referred Michael Avenatti and Julie Swetnick for a criminal investigation to the Department of Justice.
So this is not over by any stretch of the imagination.
So what you have and Alan Dershowitz, I remember said at the time Avanati may not have, may have an ethical obligation to withdraw the Swetnik affidavit, especially when she started contradicting her own self here.
But the point is he went out in this case against Kavanaugh with a ferocious intensity that, like the Democrats, abandoned core fundamental values.
Every one of the allegations was there was never any corroboration.
Again, we're talking about 40 years ago in most cases, 36 years ago, whatever it was, and they never were able to corroborate any of it.
Many of the stories shifted or altered, changed, or no details were remembered at all.
And people that were supposed to be an eyewitness, I remember in the case of Professor Ford said, no, it didn't happen.
And the other people there said, I don't remember anything like this.
And, you know, bit by bit.
Now, in the meantime, this man's character is trashed.
Character assassination at a level that no nobody should ever have to go to.
My argument at the time was that we believe in due process, that it has served this country so well and the presumption of innocence.
That has served us so well.
And I'll say I said it then, and I'm gonna say it now.
And it Michael Avenatti deserves due process, the presumption of innocence, as he claimed in the press conference when he got out of, I guess he was being booked and charged in Los Angeles.
He deserves it, but he didn't afford it to anybody else.
He didn't afford it to Judge Kavanaugh.
And in the case of Democrats in general, it was just a crush, bludgeon, destroy, kill somebody's character anyway, anyhow.
You need to do it.
And there is a massive danger if we go down this road for everybody.
I don't know Michael Avanati.
I don't know, we don't even know who the woman is.
We don't have the facts of the case except that he's been charged and he proclaims his innocence.
But the but why it's so important is that this fundamental constitutional protection of ours goes to the heart of our legal system.
And I I will adhere to that.
You know, all my life I've been, and I said this earlier, from the Richard Jewell case on, I learned such a lesson when the Atlanta Journal Constitution, I'd love to see what that payoff was when I think they eventually got sued.
Lynn Wood was the attorney, really good attorney down in the Atlanta area, and he worked he took on Richard Jewell as a client, and oh, he fits the profile of a lone bomber because he lives with his mother.
That was the whole case.
And I said, This is absurd on the air, had no idea Richard Jewell was listening to my show at the time.
I was a local radio host in Atlanta.
And then the next thing we know is he wasn't the guy.
He was the hero.
And everybody had gone with it, and they went insane with it.
And he ended up being innocent.
We have seen a rush to judgment constantly in the Obama years.
It drove me nuts.
Cambridge police acted stupidly, or Trey Von Martin, George Zimmerman, or Ferguson, Missouri, or Baltimore, or what?
Duke Lacrosse was another example where there were a few of us by holding to those principles.
We ended up being right.
Withhold judgment, wait for the facts to come in.
And I did in every one of those cases.
The UVA case is another one.
Any more you can think of, Linda, we've done it all the time.
You know, history of this, it's pretty scary stuff.
It's it's scary stuff.
And the thing is, I may not care for Michael Avenatti's politics, but he deserves what he didn't give Kavanaugh.
And I think people really, you know, because it's him, and because of how over the line he went, it's uh in one sense, I just think it's a very important moment for everybody to stand back because if it's you, if it's someone you know, if it's someone you love, if it's someone you care about, you are gonna want those core principles working for you.
It's hard.
Um, all right, let's get to our busy phones.
800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Let's go to uh Linda uh Andrews Air Force Base.
What's up, Linda?
How are you?
Hi, thank you, Sean.
I am pissed.
I am so upset.
They need to shut the border completely.
Shut it down now.
The president needs to shut it down.
These people are dangerous.
They are saying that they're waiting for all the caravan so they can come through all of them together, and they don't care how many millions, uh uh uh soldiers or they want to damage them.
They are saying all kind of stuff in Spanish, and the media is not reported in reporting this.
They need to shut the border completely.
None of them come in.
Enough is enough.
This is disgraceful.
Well, look, I want people to do it legally.
I have no problem.
I've you know, all the years that I worked in restaurants, all the years that I worked, I'll give you one example.
When I was uh in my teens, there was a place in Long Island called Eisenhower Park.
At the time it was called Salisbury on the green, it's a different place.
Had five golf courses, and it was like a wedding factory.
It was unbelievable.
I mean, they do five weddings some Friday nights, believe it or not, five on uh uh Saturday, five at Saturday night, five Sunday, five Sunday night, and I ten bar made a fortune as a kid, at least I thought at the time.
And they there were plenty of people that worked in the restaurant at the time.
I think it's a county-owned restaurant, if I don't, if I'm not mistaken, and once or twice every year, in would come the immigration's customs people, and all these guys that worked in the kitchen, for example, would they be racing out the back door onto the golf course, and you know, some would get caught and others would get away with it, get get away and then come back to work.
Um, when I work with them, I saw good people, great people actually, doing hard jobs.
I don't know what their pay was, but I don't expect it was very high, wanting what we take for granted.
I get it, I understand it, but it has to be done legally.
That's that's what we're asking.
Um, all right, back to our phones.
Uh Donna is in Staten Island.
Donna, how are you?
The all-new AM710 W O R. What's going on?
How are you, my friend?
I'm good.
What's happening?
I find myself scratching my head because I'm kind of waiting for all those women in the Mechu movement and all of the, you know, all the left-wing people to be screaming about Michael Avenatti.
Should I not hold my breath lest I turn forward?
Well, think about all the people that joined with Avenatti and said, I believe her, I believe her.
I mean, I can do a montage, I believe this one, I believe that one.
And um, it just is a rush to judgment in that case For the worst possible reasons for pure political gain and nothing else.
And you know, imagine if you are the one of the daughters of Justice Kavanaugh now.
Imagine that for a second.
All your life, this will follow you.
This will be with you.
Names, character, reputations matter.
And when you destroy somebody's, in this case, there's there was no evidence to back up or corroborate any of this.
None.
The witnesses' names that were mentioned said no, it didn't happen.
And it was um it's a shame what they did here, but it's not the first time.
This is what Borking is.
This is what they did to Justice Thomas.
This has happened far too often to far too many good people.
You know, maybe people look if I was a total hypocrite, I'd say, well, maybe I believe whoever this anonymous woman is.
I I don't, I don't know anything about it.
I just know he deserves what Kavanaugh deserved.
He deserves presumption of innocence due process, and that's my point.
Um, all right, thanks for the call.
Appreciate it.
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Obviously, the latest on the Kavanaugh, uh, the caravan, now expecting what, another thousand people.
Uh so we'll get to that.
Uh also uh the latest on Avenati, the hypocrisy.
Well, now people on the left will they start saying due process, presumption of innocence.
That might be a good change of pace for a lot of different reasons.
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