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All right, 28 days, the most important midterm election in our lifetime.
You know what that means?
That is four weeks from tonight, you're gonna turn on your television and the results are gonna be flying in.
What result do you want?
What do you care the most about?
Are you better off than you were two years ago?
All right, we're gonna get to all this today.
We have also a lot of deep state breaking news, and it's all now fits.
Everything now comes together with new news that is developing today.
And I gotta tell you something.
It is um it's an exciting time in as much as now people seem engaged.
The president is out on the road.
The president is is literally explaining what is what he's completed in the first two years of his presidency, and also giving what I think is an accurate dire warning, what happens on the other side of this.
You know, you think of all that we've been through in three weeks and what it's done to the country, the guilt by association parented by the mainstream media and all these, you know, holier than now people.
I think one of the sickest comments came from Colbert's writer.
Well, whatever happens, I'm just glad we ruined Judge Kavanaugh's life.
Well, you gotta be pretty doggone sick, ugly, twisted, and dark to want to destroy somebody's life as a human being.
It's pretty sick.
And it pretty much sums up what the left is in America today.
You have to understand that there's there's no agenda they're selling the American people.
The only thing that I can think they could want to go back to, we what are they telling us they want to do when we know they want to impeach the president, investigate the president endlessly?
We know they want to keep Obamacare.
We know they want to open borders and get rid of ice.
We know they want their crumbs back.
So what are they gonna do that's gonna help make our lives better?
What do they want to go back to the era of appeasing dictators and and mullahs in Iran and North Korea and people all around the world that hate the United States?
You know, you gotta understand for some people, they they really want this country to be a better place.
That's what I want.
I mean, all these years, what have we talked about?
The forgotten man, forgotten woman.
How desperate things got under Barack Obama, you know, and and how we've now been able to turn the corner, frankly, quicker than I thought we ever would.
But you're watching a party that is devoid of any new innovation, new ideas that will make the lives of the American people more prosperous, that will create more opportunity, that will make us more secure.
Everything you get is predictable Democratic Party 101 smear slander, besmirchment, bludgeoning, whoever they don't like and don't agree with.
It's nothing new.
It is their one and only playbook.
And we have chronicled this now for years on this program.
But the stakes couldn't be higher.
Four weeks from tonight, I'm you might hear the words Nancy Pelosi will be the next speaker of the House, and committee chairman Maxime Waters and Committee Chairman Gerald Nadler of New York.
I've warned you over and over again.
They don't have any vision to make your life better.
Now they do want to destroy Trump.
They want impeachment, open borders, ICE eliminated, keep their crumbs and Obamacare.
Short of that, what else do they stand for?
So if you got to start, it's important to remember that, you know, it's an uphill battle in midterm elections.
The party that controls the presidency has only gained seats in the House of Representatives three times in the last 100 years.
You have also, on top of that, you've got about 40 retirements to deal with, which means that the names on the ballot are new and different.
Hopefully better in some cases.
But are you better off today than you were two years ago?
Is a America better off today than it was two years ago?
Is America stronger than it was two years ago?
Is the economy better off than it was two years ago?
Is the president keeping his word, his promises to you, The American people.
Well, we know that on the issue of the tax cuts, well, he's kept his promise.
On the issue of ending burdensome regulation, he's kept his promise on building the wall.
He hasn't fully been able to do it because that hasn't been fully funded.
Kevin McCarthy introduced a bull bill today to fully fund the wall.
But he has spent 3.3.5 trillion dollars to fund the wall.
We now have record unemployment in 14 states.
We now have the lowest unemployment rate in over 50 years.
The last time it was this low was 1969 when the New York Mets shocked the world and won the World Series.
That's how far back that goes.
Hispanic American unemployment, record lowest.
African American unemployment, record low.
Women in the workforce, record low.
Record low for Asian Americans.
Also record low for veterans who have come back from war.
They're getting employed as well, too.
President's kept his promises on dealing with rogue regimes like Iran and North Korea.
The sanctions in Iran are now paying off.
We see the Iranian economy about to tank every day.
We see the whole issue with little Rocket Man.
We don't have a rocket being fired almost every other day.
That seems to be remaining on track.
The president hasn't given up anything in regards to that.
President has opened up Anwar.
We now have one of the largest oil reserves that was unavailable because of environmental extremism.
It's a vast wilderness.
And we just let it sit there.
And we haven't been able to tap into those resources or building the Dakota pipeline or the Keystone Pipeline.
That's all in the works now, too.
It's not a small deal, is it, that the president kept his promise and put two originalists on the U.S. Supreme Court.
They've now been confirmed.
He gave us the names of people that he would select from, and he selected from that list.
Promises made, promises kept.
Two short years.
And we see the benefit to the country.
And in 28 days, four weeks from tomorrow from tonight, you're going to tune in and we're going to find out what the results are.
The good news is that you have the power here.
A lot more power than you even think.
You know, Nancy Pelosi's picking out the drapes.
Maxime Waters is thinking impeachment.
Gerald Nadler wants endless investigation.
Nobody's thinking about what they're going to do for you, we the people.
What are they going to do?
They're going to now finally come out against Obamacare?
No, they love Obamacare.
They're going to now say, you know what, these tax cuts are working, and it's creating jobs.
They're not going to do that either.
You know, we've learned a lot in the last couple of days, and we're really going to dig down deep and do a Hannity investigation in the next hour.
You know, while we've been so busy the last three weeks covering the bludgeoning of Judge Kavanaugh leading up to his confirmation, there's been a lot of news that we have not been covering.
One of them is John Solomon, Sarah Carter, you know, Byron York, everybody, Catherine Herridge have all been breaking stories, but you know, we have all the evidence now that things were far worse regarding the effort to literally undo an election of the president.
First, we know just to remind you and bring you backwards a little bit.
Remember Hillary Clinton, the single greatest obstruction of justice case, slam dunk case in our history.
We know that Hillary Clinton obstructed justice when she deleted subpoenaed emails and then used bleach pit and then busted up devices with hammers or had her aides do it.
That's obstruction.
But of course, she had friends in the deep state.
They took the case away from the field agents and brought it in-house with the upper echelon of the FBI, and that would be Comey and Strck and Company, and Comey and Strck in particular, they wrote the exoneration of Hillary in May of 2016, long before they ever interviewed Hillary or the main people involved in the whole thing.
And then all of a sudden they interview her.
Peter Struck, one of the interviewers, a man that thinks that Hillary should win a hundred million to zero, and they exonerate Hillary three days later, and then they launched the Russia investigation.
An exoneration before an investigation.
That means the fix was in.
If the field agents, if they were allowed to do their job, it never would have ended up That way, because they would have followed the rule of law.
They would have they would have kept their pledge of equal application of our laws.
Well, now the new evidence, and remember, then all everything goes back to the dossier that Hillary bought and paid for, but we now know that last week, while we were covering the Kavanaugh issue that the FBI general counsel, James Baker, remember he reported directly to James Comey.
Well, he told congressional investigators last week that an attorney, remember the company Perkins Couy.
That's the company that Hillary's campaign and she was controlling the DNC money according to Donna Brazil.
Well, they were funneling money into Perkins CUI, which is a law firm, so it would show up on campaign finance reports as a legal cost.
It turns out they then would hire Fusion GPS, an op research group, that then went out and hired a former MI6 agent by the name of Christopher Steele.
Christopher Steele uses Russian sources.
He himself doesn't even stand by any of his sources.
He doesn't believe his own dossier when push came to shove in an interrogatory in Great Britain.
But anyway, this revelation is Baker telling the number two, the lead counsel for the FBI, who's now gone.
Twenty-five top representatives of the FBI and the DOJ are either resigned or fired or stepped aside.
And anyway, stunning revelation that he told Congressional investigators that an attorney for Perkins CUI law firm gave him the materials.
Again, this is what Hillary paid for about Russian election meddling during the 2016 presidential campaign.
That's stunning in terms of what it reveals since it directly contradicts Justice Department and FBI official sworn testimony.
So in other words, they lied under oath.
And Baker was telling Congress last week that Perkins Cooy's lawyer, Michael Sussman, directly handed documents to him about Russia's attempts at meddling in the 2016 election.
In other words, he was a cutout.
He was a go-between for Hillary Clinton and the FBI knew it.
The question is, why did the FBI knowing this then lie about it?
Now that in effect, you know, its application then for the Pfizer warrant, which we now know the bulk of information for that was the Clinton bought and paid for dossier that even the guy that put it together doesn't stand by.
But anyway, the FISA application was based on Hillary's bought and paid for dossier, but it was all to get warrants to spy on a Trump campaign associate.
And by the way, it seems now that it was done at the direction of Donald Trump's opponent, Hillary Clinton from the get-go.
Which, by the way, would be entirely illegal for both the FBI and for Clinton, and what appears that they've done here.
How many times have I said this is a biggest abuse of power scandal in American history?
Now you got numerous officials at the DOJ and the FBI have told us under oath that nobody at the FBI, DOJ, knew anything about the Democratic Party being behind all this Clinton dirt.
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, he was on with Maria Barra Torromo, I think on Sunday, said, Well, now you have one of the top lawyers for the Democrats in the Clinton campaign feeding information directly to the top lawyer at the FBI.
So it appears that the FBI and Department of Justice were doing the Clinton campaign's bidding and applying for the Pfizer warrant to snoop on Trump campaign communications.
And they did so by getting the Pfizer warrant to spy on Carter Page, which means that with Hillary's without Hillary's involvement here, there wouldn't have been a FISA application to spy on the Trump campaign.
There wouldn't be fusion GPS or a dossier on Trump.
We wouldn't be living through a second year of endless Trump Russia investigation with no evidence whatsoever because Democrats cynically launched the whole thing to ruin Donald Trump's presidency and set him up for impeachment.
And the news story that we have outbreaking this morning proves just that.
Now James Baker's testify testimony is blockbustered, and I don't see anybody in the mainstream media covering it yet.
I know they'll be six months behind us like usual.
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So the bigger bombshell to come out of again, we were busy last week with the Kavanaugh issue, but the bigger bomb to come out of the testimony of James Baker.
Remember, he was the top legal counsel at the FBI, has to do with the issue that we discussed three weeks ago, which was Rod Rosenstein saying that he wanted to surreptitiously record Donald Trump.
And maybe we can get some cabinet officials and invoke the 25th amendment.
Anyway, it turns out that not long after that 2017 meeting where Rod Rosenstein reportedly discussed wearing a wire to record conversations with President Trump.
Remember, this is this was chronicled by both the deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe and his lawyer, Lisa Page.
That's Peter Strzok's boyfriend.
They went into the uh office of a third FBI official, uh girlfriend, rather.
Sorry.
Lisa Page was it was she was his boyfriend.
He was her she was his girlfriend.
All right, enough.
You're interrupting me.
Anyway, went to the office of a third FBI official, General Counsel Baker.
They told Baker what Rod Rosenstein said.
So now we got three witnesses that say that Rod Rosenstein talked about surreptitiously taping Donald Trump.
And after Rosenstein's comments were reported in the New York Times about what, three and a half weeks ago, he sent out word through intermediaries that he didn't really mean it, that he was speaking sarcastically.
Oh, you you want me to put on a wire and tape Trump?
Anyway, but it appears that you know that's not how top FBI officials took it.
The thing that struck me the most was the serious look on Baker's face when he was describing it according to a source close to the investigation of Baker's house interview.
He was conveying that McCabe and Page took it seriously because they took it seriously, because he took it seriously.
In other words, they all thought he meant it.
Which now I know the president met yesterday with Rod Rosenstein.
Apparently they had some meeting on Air Force One.
The statement says they got along, you know, fine, but you know, Rod Rosenstein's up to his eyeballs and everything involving this thing.
25 till the top of the hour.
Scary hurricane season continues, and Hurricane Michael now is headed straight for the Florida panhandle.
Looks like it could hit land at a category three.
Uh, and there's a massive storm surge risk for the panhandle and in the entire area that would be destined for Walton Beach and surrounding communities.
And uh it hurricane warnings, storm surge warnings have all been issued along the Gulf Coast.
As I understand that we have some evacuations now taking place, and it looks like it's uh a really big threat to the panhandle.
Thoughts and prayers go to our friends down in the panhandle area.
We check in with boat Joe Bestardi, the official weatherman of the Sean Hannity show, and of course he's with Weatherbell.com, and it's being I'm being told it's the worst storm to hit the Florida panhandle in like decades.
How bad is it?
Well, it's I think it's going to be the uh maybe the worst on record in Panama City.
Uh that area particular last major hurricane to hit coming in at this angle was uh hurricane uh Opal back in 1995.
Hurricane Kate hit there in November, believe it or not, of nineteen eighty-five.
That was a major hurricane in the Gulf, but it weakened to a category two when it went through there.
So this is probably going to be the benchmark storm for that Panama City area.
Now the fortunate thing is I want to cover the uh sort of the silver lining here.
Pensacola and Mobile are going to get north winds.
And Mobile, I don't think this is a big deal in Mobile.
Pensacola go 40 gusting to 60, maybe three to four inches of rain.
But once you start moving east, southeastward down the coast, and especially in that Panama City area, this is going to be as bad as you see it in that particular area.
The weather pattern, you remember Florence was off its peak when it hit the North Carolina coast.
This one, because of the weather pattern, is intensifying as it comes to the coast.
And I don't expect anything to stop it from being uh at least that strong category three, perhaps even uh uh borderline category four upon landfall.
Very well telegraphed in this pattern.
You remember Sean, last time I was on with you.
I said I'll I'll probably see you for a week in October.
Why why why is this now getting stronger the way you're describing?
And what what does it mean?
Look, the average person, including me, has no idea why the actual angle of the uh when it reaches land matters so much.
Why does the angle of the storm matter?
It's also the overall pattern.
When Florence was coming in, the pattern in the uh western Atlantic was uh weakening as far as tropical cyclones.
On September 20th, believe it or not, Japanese meteorological agency, its maps came out and said, look out October uh 5th through about the 19th in the Atlantic Basin.
You notice all the typhoons have shut down in the western Pacific completely.
And you say, Well, what does that have to do with us?
Well, when the action stops there, like it did last year, it shifts into the Atlantic basin, and that's what you see going on, folks.
Is it you uh you can watch this stuff coming two, three weeks away.
Now I can't tell you, well, is it going to New Orleans or is it going to Tampa or or whatever?
I could say this general area has got to look out during this time.
That's what we saw.
And once we got to last Thursday and Friday, you know, I and Sean knows I emailed him down all this stuff to get them ready about this.
You could see this coming right up into the Gulf of Mexico.
So that area has not been touched.
Remember, we hit Louisiana and Mississippi with Gordon Alberto.
We hit off to the east over there with Florence.
This is going right in between, and instead of coming west or northwest as it's hitting, it's hitting in the classical fashion from the southwest, and it's going to race through the Carolinas.
So you folks in the Carolinas, you're going to have a fast moving tropical storm go through there, and unfortunately, in a lot of these areas that were hit by Florence, there's going to be another three to six locally, ten inches of rain coming Thursday night into Friday morning.
Friday, the storm will be between Cape Hatteras and Norfolk, go right out to sea to the south of New England.
No problem in the northeast from it, but it is going to be a big problem, even in the Carolinas, uh, because of the fact that there's more rain coming.
So you're gonna you're basically saying this is gonna come up through the Florida panhandle.
It's gonna sort of veer right, hit the Carolinas hard, and then go out to sea.
Yeah, it won't hit the Car the uh you'll see 40 to 60 mile an hour winds, maybe gust of hurricane force along the outer banks, and 40 to 60 mile an hour winds, Charleston, Columbia, uh, Augusta, places like that as it moves through, but it's going to accelerate through there.
Where we are looking at the devastating wind power with this hurricane is Panama City.
That is ground zero for the worst part of this storm.
And you folks over there, you can't you got and you gotta remember the way the northeast uh the that bite of Florida shaped, even though to the east Apalachicola, uh the wind won't be as bad, you're still gonna get tremendous storm surge in there because all that water that's to the east of the storm is piling up and heading in there into that bite of Florida.
I think Tallahassee's probably going to get wind gusts 80, 90 miles an hour in there, knock the power out in Tallahassee.
Now during Hurricane Kate, which went very uh close there, ninety percent of the power was knocked out in Tallahassee, and I think you're going to see 90 to 100% power outage uh with this there.
I'm uh I'm just saying the wind should be higher in Tallahassee, at least the gust with this, and we'll have severe weather breaking out later tomorrow afternoon, tomorrow night, the possibility of tornadoes uh uh from Florida and then through southern Georgia, coastal South Carolina and North Carolina uh during the day Thursday as this moves up rapidly northeastward.
It's uh scary.
All right, so when do we get landfall?
And uh what would you recommend if people I know a lot of people live on that coast.
I've been down there a number of times.
It's actually it's so beautiful.
Um and it's but but there are a lot of homes right on the water.
So well, between three uh three and nine PM uh tomorrow, I think is when we're going to have landfall, and I think things are really going to deteriorate very, very rapidly.
Um it appears uh tomorrow morning, midday and afternoon in there.
You just gotta get out.
I mean, well, you know, uh again with Florence, you know, we had a hundred, hundred and ten mile an hour winds.
It was a bad storm, it was spread out.
This is this is much more of a haymaker, uh, the kind of thing where can it's a knockout puncher with a hundred and twenty, hundred and thirty mile an hour winds.
And look, folks, you can see what's going on with this.
You saw with Florence, uh, the eye kept trying to organize, couldn't quite do it.
You see it on the cloud photograph, the eyes getting tighter and tighter and tighter, and that means that this storm is intensifying as it comes to the coast.
There's look.
There's nothing magical about it.
I we I wrote I wrote on this weekend.
I mean, I I know that sounds pompous, but you got people say we've never seen anything like this.
It's already starting with the climate ambulance chasing.
This has been telegraphed so far in advance, and even from late last week, you could see there was going to be a major problem coming up into the Gulf of Mexico, and that there was going to be what we call rapid uh rapid development feedback.
We see that happen every now and then, and we are fortunate with uh Florence that it was you know, it was off its peak.
This is going the opposite way, and that's what hurricanes do, and given the ideal situation, that's what this is.
So it really hits landfall.
I would say if I'm looking at the my own your website, actually.
So you have it hitting land, uh it's really gonna start getting rough about noon tomorrow, a little before.
Right.
And then and then the the landfall, I think, is sometime between three and nine PM at Panama City.
We'll get that down in the I I believe uh maybe on with you on TV tonight.
We will be honing in on this.
We get a lot of people in that area, of course.
You know, and as you've been harping about, we're 28 days away, and uh we will we want to, you know, people that listen, you know, I I I appreciate you let me be on here, want to take care of you down there, but we want you to listen and get the heck out of there if you're ordered out of there because it's a bad storm.
All right, uh Joe uh Bastardi, the official weatherman of the Sean Hannity show.
Please, you know, whatever your local officials tell you.
Um what I'm hearing from Joe is if you're a coastal person, you're gonna want to move inland, probably a little bit more uh westward rather than eastward because it's gonna make a right turn.
It's gonna looks like it's headed right through the Atlanta area, right into the coastal areas of the Carolinas and uh and then straight out to sea, maybe getting as upward as northern as uh Virginia.
But look, whatever your local officials tell you, if they tell you you gotta evacuate, don't be prideful, just suck it up, take the day or two, make sure you're safe and secure.
Put put that as your top priority.
Uh all right, thanks so much for being with us, Joe Bustardi, Weatherbell.com.
Thank you, uh 800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
President now, even he's saying what I'm suggesting is that is that the uh U.S. would end up uh like Venezuela if if the Democrats win the midterms.
There's some truth to that.
There's a little bit of payback I see for Senator Lisa Murkowski, the GOP in Alaska, apparently is going to either reprimand or totally disavow Lisa Murkowski.
I would assume a primary.
Tell you the one person I'd love in Alaska to run against her would be Sarah Palin.
Maybe Governor Palin could make a political comeback.
I think the people there would like like that a lot.
Um there's a guy out, this is a fascinating race because you wouldn't think anything in California would be in play, although there are very important, especially in Southern California, they're very important congressional seats in play, and that would be from say just south of Los Angeles, Orange County down and through San Diego.
And I know they've had massive population shifts down there, but you wouldn't think statewide that you'd have a gubernatorial race that is now as close as it is.
It's a five-point race between Gavin Newsom and the Republican businessman, a guy by the name of John Cox.
We got to get John Cox on the program.
And I'm gonna tell you why it's happening.
Because the people in California are fundamentally understanding what Gavin Newsom is Proposing is an economic disaster for that state.
Well, free health care for everybody.
It doesn't matter if you're in California legally or not.
And also the cost of it being not only a sanctuary city like San Francisco, but a sanctuary state.
Well, that means that that's includes health care.
That's the criminal justice system.
That's the educational system.
And if people are not paying taxes, they're in this state illegally, and maybe some illegal immigrants do, but they're certainly available to use services under what Gavin Newsom is proposing for everybody.
It's basically putting a sign out that would say, hey, free health care in California.
Just make it here and we'll take care of you.
And you know what people are going to do?
They're going to make it there and use the California health system.
Now remember, California already has a state income tax of 13 and a half percent.
You know, add that to a federal income tax, and the fact that you can no longer deduct after the tax cut plan passed, you can no longer cut or deduct rather your state income taxes on your tax return.
That means that if you do make money in California, you're paying that much more in taxes.
So the people of California are hit harder than any other state in the United States, and New York is where I am, and is right behind them.
It's just ridiculous the amount of the burdens that they're putting on the people of California and Diane Feinstein is up for re-election.
It's going to be interesting to see if uh Gavin Newsom will pull her down in terms of the polls.
But anyway, we're we'll have to watch that race a little more closely and see what happens.
By the way, we do have an attempt by the Dem Democrats that are now threatening to impeach and continue the investigations into Judge Kavanaugh, and um they want to now begin the process of impeaching them, that the House Judiciary Committee, Gerald Nadler, who's a strongly implied impeachment, would be on the table if Democrats take over the lower chamber in the midterms.
Is there anybody in the Democratic Party that's running on any agenda item that would make America great for the people in the country?
Are they offering anything to make for a better America for anybody?
Morgan Stanley said the belief in American exceptionalism among global investors has never been higher.
Morgan Stanley, the guy by the name of Mr. Sharma was on CNBC, said this year has been the story about how well America has done, calling it an example of an American exceptionalism.
Quote, we may or may not believe in American exceptionalism, but the financial markets have never believed in it to such an extent.
And then he went on to add, as the head of emerging markets and the chief global strategist at Morgan Stanley Investment Management, this global firm has 474 billion in assets under management as of June 30th, 2018.
The strong economy has been touted by people like Larry Kudlow called it the hottest economy in the world.
Well, there's no doubt it's for the proof is in the pudding.
Um...
You know, there's an interesting piece by my buddy Hugh Hewitt.
Trump may be outside of our norms, but he is succeeding for all of us.
And I just read a little bit of the article.
I didn't finish it yet.
But I think what he's saying there is a point that I've been making as well, except in a different way, and that is that if you look at any criticism of Donald Trump, it's all stylistic stuff.
It's all about his style.
They don't like that he's combative.
They don't like that he breaks dishes.
They don't like that he fights.
They don't like that he is at times not polite.
Um, they don't like that he's a disruptor and an iconoclast.
They've got their image of how a president needs to behave and act and what they should say and that they shouldn't be tweeting and this and that.
The problem with that is if you get rid of that side of Donald Trump, you get rid of what we elected.
The disruption is good.
Breaking dishes in a swamp like DC is ending up being a good thing for the American people.
That's why the jobs that are being created, the millions of them, the manufacturing that's coming back, the business environment has never been better.
The security that we are now obtaining, the better trade deals that We are now also locking down.
It's all good for the American people.
I don't know why people, you know, there are different people, different styles in life.
Like Linda's very combative and drops the F bomb a lot.
On this doesn't do it on the program because we have a dump button, and when she does, we just stump it.
Is that true or false?
Absolutely true.
Do you have anything nice to say about me today?
You've been very nice today to everybody except for Kylie.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh, we're going totally valley girl here.
Go ahead.
I have nothing to say that I can say on the air.
No, I do have so I just said something nice before.
I said finally you're drinking something that is not disgustingly green.
This is not okay.
Thank you, Hillary.
Or orange.
If you make me agree with Hillary, do you drink very upset with you?
What is it?
Coffee.
Coffee.
Say it again.
It's coffee.
It's coffee.
Going to quarry you.
The top lawyer at the FBI reported directly to James Comey.
Numerous officials at the DOJ and the FBI have told us under oath that the FBI, nobody at FBI or DOJ knew anything about the Democratic Party being behind the Clinton dirt.
Well, now you have one of the top lawyers for the Democrats and the Clinton campaign who was feeding information directly to the top lawyer at the FBI during before even the Pfizer warrant.
So now you have absolute proof that that wasn't told to the Pfizer court.
So you want your your evidence of Pfizer abuse?
There it is right there.
A secret warrant was got again was placed on an American citizen during a political campaign, and yet the FBI did not tell the court that they were getting this information directly from the opponent of that campaign.
And this is this is really bad stuff.
It's it's it's very simple.
I mean, you just had a I it's not complicated.
People should know it's probably not appropriate for a top lawyer lawyer of the Democratic Party to take dirt and give it to the top lawyer at the FBI.
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It keeps people safe from dangerous criminals, and it allows us to resolve our differences peacefully through reason and logic.
Lawyers are obligated to speak up for the truth.
John Adams famously observed that facts are stubborn things.
And whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of the facts and the evidence.
Pursuing truth means always yielding to the facts, even if they run counter to our hopes.
In a courtroom, truth is about credible evidence, not strong opinions.
The way we operate in the Department of Justice, if we can accuse somebody of wrongdoing, we have to have admissible evidence and credible witnesses.
We need to prepare to prove our case in court, and we have to fix our signature to the charging document.
That's something that not everybody appreciates.
There's a lot of talk about FISA applications, and many people that I see talking about it seem not to recognize what a FISA application is.
A FISA application is actually a warrant, just like a search warrant.
Uh, in order to get a Pfizer uh search warrant, you need an affidavit signed by a career federal law enforcement officer who swears that the information in the affidavit is true and correct to the best of his knowledge and belief.
Uh and that's the way we operate.
And if it's wrong, sometimes it is, if you find out there's anything incorrect in there, that person is gonna face consequences.
Mr. Rosenstein decided we couldn't get it until your report came out.
He sat on it for a month of of time.
I I can't speak to how they're not the first time Mr. Rosenstein has kept us from getting information.
He's hit information from us.
He redacted all kinds of important conversations between Strck and Page.
He redacted that from us.
We had to go over to the Justice Department and find it.
So this wouldn't be the first time he hasn't given us information.
Frankly, I think we're entitled to.
I want to real well, I got 30 seconds.
I don't have time to get into another subject here here.
Uh Mr. Uh Mr. Horwitz, I I appreciate that, but I do think it's interesting that you had it.
You discovered it, and we couldn't get it right away like all the other text messages.
We had to wait until the final report.
All right, hour two, Sean Hannity show, toll free on numbers eight hundred nine four one Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program, what we played there, Rod Rosenstein, you know, four people that did wrong in the DOJ face consequences regarding FISA.
Well, he signed the final Pfizer warrant himself.
And then when he's talking about the rule of law and speaking up for truth and Jim Jordan blasting Rod Rosenstein's uh conduct.
Now, the president met yesterday on Air Force One, apparently had a meeting, not a lot of details about what went on in the meeting with Rod Rosenstein.
There was talk about, well, he might be fired after it had been discovered that he was talking about, well, you want me to wear a wire around the president.
And his answer was, you know, at least his the spin was, well, I was just saying that you wouldn't want me to wear a wire around the president.
And it was all in the tone and the cadence of what he said.
We have three articles in front of me right now, one by Catherine Harridge at Fox, one by Sarah Carter, one by John Solomon.
Uh Solomon's article goes on former FBI lawyer plot to record remove Trump was not a joke.
And John Solomon, let me read from the article.
Don't tell former FBI general counsel, remember James Baker.
He was one of those that resigned.
That those infamous discussions about secretly recording President Donald Trump and using the tapes to remove him for office were a joke.
He apparently doesn't believe it.
And he held quite the vantage point as he was on the inside of the FBI Bureau's leadership in May of 2017 when the discussions occurred, and Baker told Congress last week that his boss, then acting FBI director, Andrew McCabe.
Remember McCabe and Lisa Page both took notes of the meeting.
And McCabe was saying, yeah, Rod Rosenstein had in fact said this.
Anyway, now James Baker is saying, and Andrew McCabe is saying that in fact they were dead serious about about the idea of surreptitiously recording the forty-fifth president using the evidence to make the case that Trump should be removed from office according to every source now in all three articles.
And Baker told lawmakers that he wasn't in the meeting that McCabe had with the deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, in which the subject came up, but he had first hand conversations with McCabe and the FBI lawyer that was assigned to McCabe, and that's Lisa Page about the issue.
So Baker talked to both of them and quote, as far as Baker was concerned, this was the real plan being discussed, said a source directly familiar with the congressional investigation.
It was no laughing matter to the FBI.
Now remember, then you can go back to what was the insurance policy to remove Trump.
This is five months now into his presidency.
This is just before the appointment of the special counsel.
This is just in the time frame around the media leak strategy that was occurring.
Anyway, so it goes on.
Word of Baker's testimony now is surfaced just days before Rosenstein was set to be interviewed in private by the House Judiciary Committee lawmakers.
That's supposed to happen Thursday of this week.
And the New York Times first reported allegations that Rosenstein, the number two at the Department of Justice, has tried to downplay his role in all of this, and his office suggested that he thought the discussion was a joke, that Rosenstein never gave an order to carry out any such plot, and he doesn't believe that Trump should be removed from office.
But making those statements through a spokesperson is a bit different than having Rosenstein himself face Congress, answer the questions under the penalty of a felony if lawmakers think he's lying.
And Baker's account to lawmakers this month clearly complicates an already complicated picture as it relates to Rod Rosenstein before Congress, assuming he shows up for Thursday's interview.
But even more so, Baker's story lays bare to an extraordinary conversation.
And we go on from there.
Now we're gonna really take our time with this issue today, and we're gonna now begin to put the pieces of the puzzle together because what this is we're laying out here are the top people, the the upper echelon.
Remember, 25 people have either been demoted, fired, or have left the FBI DOJ in their upper ranks here.
And James Baker is one of them.
And Andrew McCabe and Lisa Page are both corroborating what apparently now James Baker has said about Rod Rosenstein.
Anyway, John Solomon, he has been investigated reporters with the Hill.
Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, and of course, the seller of the number one book, The Russia Hoax.
Thank you all for being with us.
Um, John, let's just I want to also put this in context for people because it gets complicated.
We got to first start with the timeline.
The timeline is May of 2017.
Well, that's when Robert Mueller is getting appointed by Rod Rosenstein.
Just before that, we had people like Lisa Page and Peter Strzok talking about a media leak strategy that had to do with the dossier.
Well, it now appears that that was all being leaked for the purposes, and again, real all it was was the dossier recycled in different news outlets for the purpose of initiating the special counsel so it would get appointed.
But now we're discovering that they're even talking about surreptitiously taping the president of the United States so that they can remove him from office.
This sounds like a coup to me.
Well, it's a it there's one other event that occurs in that May time frame that really I think is the shock wave for this conversation, and that was the termination of James Comey.
Comey is the FBI director that allowed all this Russia investigation to go on.
And we know now from Lisa Page's testimony that in May they still had no evidence against Trump proving any form of collusion with Russia.
So they've been nine months at it.
James Comey's let this go on for nine months.
He's let two agents who have an anti-Trump uh bias lead that investigation.
He gets fired.
And what's the natural reaction of all those who've been supporting James Comey, that being Rosenstein, uh uh McCabe and uh Stroke and Page, it's hey, maybe we can remove this guy through other meetings.
If we can't prove that he did something wrong with Russia, maybe we can prove he's incompetent and we'll we'll record him and uh and maybe try to take him out through the recording in the 25th amendment.
This is not what the FBI was brought in to do.
I'm sure Greg could talk about the history of his book, lays out the real possibility that this was a soft coup, right?
Look at this.
We have the FBI.
They're not investigating a crime here.
In fact, they can't find a crime by Lisa uh Page's only.
Well, Lisa Well, Lisa Page's testimony, just to be clear, she said they they had found nothing in nine months leading up to this point.
That's right.
So they switched gears, right?
Maybe we can remove them to other meetings.
And and this conversation is so extraordinary because it's this isn't the job of the FBI.
They the 25th Amendment never envisioned the FBI being involved in it.
So you've got the FBI and the deputy attorney general uh allegedly have a conversation.
He says it's a joke, they say they're dead serious about it, and they believe he was dead serious about it.
And uh no matter which way it comes down, it's just another example of how far down the road the FBI was beyond its core mission, which is to investigate crimes and stop counterintelligence and again, this has nothing to do with rank and file agents at all.
This this is just a group of rogue, power hungry upper echelon management uh types, and if anything, they took the the cases away from the field offices purposefully so that they can involve themselves in these nefarious activities.
That's why it really does explain uh Greg Jarrett why every FBI guy I know is so angry about this because they know it was ripped out of their hands, and this and all of them say that if this was them, they know they'd get fired.
That's right.
And in fact, I interviewed former top officials at the FBI who are angry at people like James Comey, Andrew McCabe, James Baker, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok for ruining the reputation, the good name of the FBI.
I wrote a column recently that said Rosenstein's actions in an attempt to depose the sitting president of the United States is the equivalent of an attempted coup, not a bloody violent coup.
Uh what's known in John referred to it a moment ago as a soft coup, uh using and misusing their power and the law to remove a sitting president.
And so here we now have not just James Baker, who was told this was serious, but the people in the conversation with Rosenstein, who uh are Andrew McCabe and Lisa Page, who said he was dead serious.
Recruit people to invoke the 25th amendment and secretly record the president to gather evidence in support of it.
Uh Rosenstein, whenever he gets caught engaging in wrongdoing, claims, oh, I was misunderstood.
He threatened the Intelligence Committee staff members in January, first denied it, then admitted it, but said, Oh, I was misunderstood.
He threatened Devin Nunes And said, Oh, I was misunderstood.
And now in his attempted coup of the president, uh, the evidence indicates, he is saying, Oh, I was misunderstood.
It was my words were misinterpreted.
It was just sarcasm.
There is a pattern of conduct here on the part of this man, Rod Rosenstein.
Why hasn't the president fired him, even though Rosenstein richly deserves it?
Politics.
The President recognizes the fallout just before an election.
And so I suspect Rosenstein's days are numbered after the election.
So now we've got three top FBI officials involved in this, all pointing the finger at Rod Rosenstein, wanting to be part of an effort to take out President Trump, saying that this effort to or or mention of taping the president was real.
Now the president met with Rod Rosenstein yesterday, and we don't have any any account really of what went on when they talked on Air Force One, except the president saying we had a good meeting.
We're going to do this for the full hour here.
There's just way too much to literally unfold and unwrap here because this is massive news.
We're talking about top officials now.
Basically, he's trying to set up a duly elected president, something we've always known.
Now we have the evidence to prove it.
And now we have some of the players now turning on each other and telling the truth against each other.
All right, we've got so much more to get to.
We're going to hold over Greg Jarrett and John Solomon into the next hour.
One other thing that we've got to get to in all of this.
We have now other revelations that have come out with everything that's been going on with Brett Kavanaugh that the FBI made it more clear now than ever before that Hillary Clinton really through what is just she's up to her eyeballs and everything, being the sole instigator of the entire Russia-gate scandal,
not only paying for the dossier, and there was a great piece by John Solomon last week and investors' business daily also laying out all the evidence, a chilling indictment of how this political criminal not only managed to escape indictment, but was somehow able to weaponize the FBI and the DOJ, all to destroy a duly elected president, President Trump.
And last week, the of course we have the FBI general counsel Baker reporting directly to former FBI director Comey telling Congressional investigators that an attorney from Perkins Couie law firm gave him materials.
Remember, that's the law firm that she funneled money to about Russian election interference during the 2016 presidential campaigns.
A stunning revelation since it directly contradicts the Justice Department and the FBI officials' sworn testimony.
This is the biggest abuse of power in history.
You've got to get this and understand how deep this goes.
We'll continue on the other side.
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If you want to be a part of the program, Two big breaking developments as it relates to the biggest abuse of power uh scandal in American history.
One has to do with the deputy attorney general, Rod Rosenstein.
Remember, he recommended the firing of Comey.
Number two, he was the one that that recommended the special counsel, Robert Mueller.
Number three is also the guy that signed the fourth final FISA warrant.
In other words, the third renewal application on Carter Page, a Trump campaign associate.
Well, now we have information corroborated and confirmed by three separate high-ranking FBI DOJ sources, including uh James Baker, who is resigned, and Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe that is now under criminal investigation, all corroborating that Rod Rosenstein himself was discussing wearing a wire to secret secretly record conversations with President Trump in the hopes he'd say something that they could use and then invoke the 25th Amendment and remove him from power.
Andrew McCabe telling that and and confirming that along with Lisa Page and going to the office of the general counsel, James Baker.
He's corroborating all of this.
And uh they're saying that Baker had said it, Baker had heard about it, and the other two actually took notes about it at the time.
The other story that we're following is a pretty stunning revelation, and since it directly contradicts what the Justice Department and the FBI officials have said in sworn testimony, but James Baker also telling Congress last week, remember the law firm Perkins Couie.
That's where Hillary's campaign.
That's where the DNC funneled money.
So it would look like a legal expense when in fact it was anything but.
And then they hired Fusion GPS, an op research firm that went out and got a hired gun by the name of Christopher Steele.
And he used his Russian sources to put together a series of papers.
They become known as the dossier, the same dossier that was never corroborated or verified, but used as a Pfizer warrant application, the bulk of information to get a Pfizer warrant to spy on a Trump campaign associate.
And it gets worse than that.
It was used, even though this information was not corroborated, it was disseminated all levels of government to propagandize and lie to the American people in the lead up to a campaign.
And then it was used, we're now understanding to bludgeon then president Donald Trump and to try and get him removed from office and creating a phony Russia Trump narrative that never ever had any evidence whatsoever.
Anyway, we found out that you know, in the case of uh Perkins Couie, the lawyers a guy by the name of Michael Sussman, directly handing documents, Baker told Congress to Michael Sussman handing to Baker documents about Russia's attempts at meddling in the 2016 election.
In other words, he was a cutout, a go between for Hillary Clinton.
The FBI knew he was a go between in this particular instance.
Now the question is why did the FBI knowing all of this not stop it?
Why did they then lie about it?
In effect, the application for the Pfizer warrant wiretap on the Trump campaign was done at the direction of a political opponent, Hillary Clinton, and that's entirely illegal for both the FBI Department of Justice and Clinton herself.
And you have numerous officials at the DOJ and the FBI have sworn under oath that nobody at the FBI or DOJ knew anything about the Democratic Party being behind the Clinton dirt.
House Intelligence Committee Chairman, Devin Nunes saying on Sunday, now you have one of the top lawyers for the Democrats and the Clinton campaign who is feeding information directly to the top lawyer at the FBI.
So it appears the FBI and the Justice Department were all doing the Clinton campaign's bidding and applying for Pfizer warrants and permission to snoop on the Trump campaign communications.
John Solomon and Greg Jarrett continue with us.
Anything I'm saying here that is wrong, Greg Jarrett.
You got a hundred percent correct.
There was never any Trump Russia collusion.
The FBI and the DOJ knew it.
There was Hillary Clinton Russian collusion.
Two people are on her payroll, the British spy Christopher Steele, who composes a totally fabricated phony document based on supposed Russian sources and providing it to the FBI and the DOJ so they can launch the investigation and spy on the Trump campaign.
And now a second person on the Hillary Clinton payroll, Michael Sussman, uh, who is passing along computer storage data as well as documents to the FBI.
And so this was the Hillary Russia connection and conspiracy to use phony opposition research to defeat her political opponent when that failed.
They double down and they continue to spy on an associate of the Trump campaign and to launch a special counsel, Bob Mueller, to drive Trump from office.
Why haven't Andrew McCabe's memos evidencing this soft coup attempt by Rod Rosenstein been given to Congress?
They've been given to evol people, Robert Muller.
Rosenstein is Mueller's boss.
If Muller is going to be investigating Rosenstein for illegal illicit activity, he can't be the boss.
And the timing of this tells us everything.
This was revenge for the firing of James Comey.
This is part of the illicit scheme to frame Donald Trump.
Good title for a book.
I guess that's why it's number one.
John Solomon, I want you to weigh in on this, and I'm sure I'm missing some details here, but I'm I'm giving the best summary I can.
It sounds complicated, but it's not.
It's really not complicated.
And Greg does such a good job of cutting through all the bluster and BS in Washington and get right down to the point.
The FBI and the Justice Department were misused for a political opposition research project To uh stop Donald Trump from becoming president, and when that failed, they sustained an investigation that was designed to hamper his early presidency, and that's what the overwhelming evidence now shows.
And there's another important part that Baker divulges in the middle of my story, but I want to point this out because many times I've heard you and I've heard Greg say that media has been complicit in this.
Well, uh uh Baker gave us an unbelievable anecdote of complicity.
In November, right after the election, right after Trump wins, the reporter, David Korn of Mother Jones, gives a new version of the dossier, a dossier copy that's different from the one the FBI has from Steele and gives it to Baker, and then Baker turns it on to the uh counterintelligence people.
Why is that important?
First off, it's not a job of a reporter to be giving evidence to the FBI.
We're supposed to report facts, not become snitches.
But more importantly, the timing of it is so important.
The FBI just fired Christopher Steele for leaking uh uh uh the existence of the investigation and all that dirty hat on Trump just before the election.
He gets fired.
They tell the FISA court they're no longer using him, and here it becomes a backdoor.
A journalist becomes a backdoor to continue to receive information for Christopher Steele.
This is not how the FISA process is supposed to work.
And I think it's another key revelation.
I mean, I I think Baker's given us several key revelations.
Uh one that challenges the credibility of Rosenstein, one that shows the media uh uh being complicit in in the effort to unseat Trump, and three, uh the direct involvement of the Democratic National Committee's lawyer in turning over evidence, pressuring the FBI.
Think of what happened in that time frame.
Christopher Steele, July 5th, 2016, walks into the FBI in Europe.
He gets turned down.
They don't act on him right away.
They they're not excited about it.
A few days later, he goes to Bruce Orr, the number four official in the Justice Department.
Bruce Orr puts pressure on the FBI department by reaching out and doing it.
A month later, you've got uh the DNC's lawyer coming into the FBI again, putting pressure uh onto the system.
There was an enormous amount of political pressure to get the FBI to find something on Trump before election day.
And I think when we look back at this, we should all be alarmed.
Take Donald Trump out of this.
Any candidate, any American who had been treated this way, it really raises civil liberty concerns, it really raises abuse of power concerns, and we should all be concerned by the body of evidence that now affirms what Greg Jarrett has written in his book.
It is so scary that when you put it all together, and now the pieces seem to be it literally it was but the uh for those that put puzzles together, usually start on the outside, and you get all the square parts on the outside, and then you start filling in the pieces of the puzzle.
Then the next thing you have a tree, then you have the grass, then you have the sun, and slowly but surely, it seems like we now understand a lot more, and that is that we had a group of people that literally set up an entire phony Russia investigation,
the very people that exonerated Hillary long before they investigated her, the very people that literally signed off on warrants that uh based on information she had provided by committing fraud to Pfizer courts, and the very same people that after they lost had an insurance policy, and now we know what the insurance policy is.
By any means necessary, we're gonna get Donald Trump, and the way we're gonna do it is uh we're gonna eat secretly record him, and we're gonna surreptitiously get him to say something that we think we could use against him on top of a phony investigation that they they initiated through a media relief strategy.
Again, of the dossier.
You know, one of the things that really tipped me off that there was a plot to frame Donald Trump.
Again, the title of my book is I went through meticulously the FBI guidelines and the Department of Justice regulations on when and how you can launch a counterintelligence investigation of an American citizen.
And what I discovered is that the FBI violated every single solitary provision of their own guidelines.
They had no credible evidence of crimes, no plausible intelligence to justify a counterintelligence probe.
Importantly, they had no probable cause.
And yet, on July 31st, 2016, they officially uh launched this investigation.
Peter Struck signed the papers.
He had uh just finished meeting with Christopher Steele.
And in fact, the same day that James Cumming cleared Hillary Clinton, twisting the law and contorting the facts.
His FBI was meeting for the first time in Europe in a building with Christopher Steele, who had composed this phony dossier that the FBI was never able to verify.
And yet they ran with this dilating investigation to damage Trump.
And then they violated other federal regulations that say you may never use unverified information to gain a FISA wiretap warrant on an American citizen.
And they never had it verified.
Rosenstein signed off on the final renewal application, and he had no new evidence, no verified back to the dossier.
All right, we'll take a quick break.
We'll come back more with Greg Jarrett.
John Solomon and your calls later in the program, 800-941 Sean.
If you want to be a part of the show.
All right, as we continue, John Solomon of the Hill, investigative reporter, Greg Jarrett, number one New York Times bestselling author, The Russian Hoax.
The phony Russia investigation was based on her unverified, uncorroborated, bought and paid for dossier.
All of the all the media leaked strategy to destroy Trump before the election.
Oh, hookers in a bed urinating in the Ritz in Moscow and then literally leaking it strategically.
Strategically to get the special counsel, you know, using the same source of information, but making it appear like there are numerous sources here.
So they're all saying the same thing.
So creating enough smoke so that there would be right fire.
And all the FBI guys, they all knew it wasn't true from the beginning.
Lisa Page even testified to that fact.
That's right.
I mean, you cannot use double, triple, quadruple hearsay from anonymous sources to launch a counterintelligence, investigation.
That is strictly prohibited.
Yet, Sean, that is exactly what the FBI and the DOJ did.
John?
Greg's exactly right.
There's a you know there's a guy that testified a few weeks ago that didn't get a lot of attention because he's a nondescript guy, but his name is Bill Priestaff.
He was Pete Stroke's boss.
He was the chief of counterintelligence at the FBI.
He told he told the Congressional uh uh committee that at the time they were submitting the FIFA and using that information from Christopher Steele's dossier, they had just begun vetting it.
They hadn't been and yet the standard for the FIFA is it must be substantiated before you can submit it to the court.
Greg has it exactly right.
They they hadn't even begun the substantiation process, and yet they're using it and presenting it as substantiated verified to the court when you look at this these are the same.
But that but that's the point.
They willingly lied before a FISA court and lied at a FISA court application, and they also purposefully withheld key information, like the fact that Hillary paid for it.
Uh how much of these are crimes here?
Oh, yeah, you know, just the FISA alone is deprivation of rights under color of law.
It's known as abuse of power.
It's also perjury because they signed off on it uh under penalties of perjury.
It's obstruction of justice.
It is also uh conspiracy to defraud the government.
The FISA court is in existence because of the city.
When are we going to get all these FISA applications, John, that the president said he wanted declassified and unredacted?
When are we going to get the warrants?
When are we going to get the 302s?
We know we know that Bruce Orr was working with Christopher Steele.
Christopher Steele is trying to pass on information about his phony lying dossier to even Robert Muller for crying out loud.
That's right.
Listen, the President of the United States is listening to the Justice Department, right?
And the FBI who said, hey, there might be some problems here.
We don't really want you to do this.
He should keep in mind this is the Justice Department that hid from the American public and the court for more than 18 months the fact that Hillary Clinton paid for the main evidence used to open investigation of Trump campaign.
I got to leave it right there.
John Solomon, great work.
We'll have you on Hannity tonight.
Greg Jarrett will see you on Hannity tonight.
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We're going to explain why and what the Republicans ought to be offering as an alternative to Obamacare.
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Millions and millions and millions of Americans, they lost their doctors.
they lost their plans, and they're paying a hell of a lot more, which we've spent a lot of time on this program chronicling.
Of course, you want to be able to get care if you have a preexisting condition.
And you know, the idea that eliminating Obamacare means you get no care is just another lie.
That's like saying Republicans are racist, sexist and misogynist, and and want to kill grandma and want dirty air and water.
It's the same thing.
A lot of things, a lot of good Obamacare's done.
It's just is taking people's premiums, put them through the roof, and and now people are just not going to get any care.
You know, we have highlighted on this program many times about a doctor in Wichita, Kansas, his name is Dr. Josh Umber.
He has a practice, it's called Atlas MD, and he is providing concierge care to all of his patients at fifty dollars a month for adults and ten dollars a month for kids.
He negotiates directly with pharmaceutical companies.
So when you need high blood pressure medicine or you need what else?
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You're gonna get it all at a ninety-five percent discount, and you're gonna take your medicine with you when you leave his office because he've negotiated upfront those c the cost of those things.
Well, that system of health care, concierge for the every man and woman, the working men and women of this country, it's working in Wichita.
And that that model, that paradigm has been duplicated all around the country.
Dr. Umbert joins us now, as well as Dr. Uh Lee S. Gross.
He's with presidents for of Doctors for Patient Care Foundation and founder of the Epiphany Health uh Direct Primary Care.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Um am I describing Dr. Umber your practice?
Well, fifty dollars a month in adult, ten dollars a month for kids, unlimited care for people, and that includes broken bone stitches, you know, every day-to-day health issue that they might have.
Yeah, you're doing a great job.
Um and and spreading the word far and wide.
Uh it's uh it's a simple model trying to make medicine great again and cut out the middlemen so that uh doctors can focus on patients first and not uh insurance paperwork.
Yeah, and let's say God forbid somebody and and I would couple your fit the fifty dollars a month that I pay for your care, which is unlimited, that takes care of the ninety-eight percent of whatever my needs happen to be, but then I have to get a catastrophic plan, the God forbid I have the heart bad heart attack, or the God forbid I get cancer, or the God forbid I get in a bad accident, right?
Right.
Um, you know, you don't have uh car insurance for gasoline, you don't have homeowners insurance for lawn care, insurance is for the big things.
And we've tried to insure everything top down, and that's led to the last you know, really eight to ten years of insurance premiums that have doubled or tripled.
What we need to do is insure less, which is how every other insurance product works.
The key to that is means doctors have to make more of the services they provide affordable.
And they can.
If they cut out the middleman in streamline, then a simple monthly.
And how big is your practice?
How many patients do you have in your facility at Atlas MD in Wichita?
In Wichita, we have five doctors and over thirty-two hundred patients.
Unbelievable.
And you're a you give concierge care.
I could pick up a phone and I'm getting a doctor at three in the morning that's gonna answer my call.
You do.
You have to and I can go down and see somebody at three AM in the morning.
If you need stitches, or it's an emergency, you know, a lot of the three AM phone calls are chest pain, which we might send to the ER, but a lot of times it's a kid who's sick and a mom who's worried, and um you know if you can avoid the ER, you can avoid a thousand or two thousand dollar bill.
That's how you get health care.
Health insurance is a card in your wallet.
Health care is access to your doctor.
Yeah.
All right.
And how many other practices around the country have you been able to to provide your model that they have duplicated?
How you've you've been out and about on a champion of this for a long time.
Yeah, we've helped over five hundred and fifty doctors convert to this model in the last few years, but there's about a thousand total.
They're in forty-eight states, every state except North and South uh Dakota right now, but we have one about to launch in North Dakota.
Um and then it's even gotten a little bit international.
So this is a a sound tried and true model.
Yeah.
And what do you do, Dr. Gross, in terms of your president of Doc uh Docs for Patient Care Foundation?
You know, now that we have alternatives that are working, real life experiences, seems to me that we ought to be able to duplicate it a lot more than we are.
Absolutely.
Uh so Doctor Patient Care Foundation is a physician run health policy think tank because doctors never seem to be at the table whenever we're having these important conversations about health care.
So we put physicians uh back in back at the table to have these conversations.
Personally, I I also have a direct primary care practice, much like Atlas MD here in Southwest Florida.
Um the practice epiphany health, our epiphany was you know, why are we using insurance to pay for health care for basic primary care services?
And all it does is is create obstacles to accessing care.
You know, and we're basically the same uh the same price points as Dr. Josh, and we're seeing patients coming to us from all over the state of Florida and even from outside of the country.
We're seeing some inbound medical tourism uh and uh what we're finding is that you know, not not to say anything bad about health insurance, we're just using it wrong.
And you know, when somebody is you know pays twice the amount of of money for a service because they use their health insurance, what are we insuring if using that insurance drives up the cost of the other product?
So an MRI cash price for us is two hundred and twenty dollars.
Now, using your your commercial insurance, you know, we go through all the the hoops to get it authorized, and your co-pays five hundred dollars.
Uh so uh you know we we see this time and again, and the more people are are coming out of pocket to pay for health health care uh with these high deductibles, the more insurance seems to be becoming an obstacle and and not the solution.
So, you know, I'm pleased to see that that you know we're shifting the conversation from uh coverage for everyone uh and actually talking about reducing the cost of health care.
I think that's the the real change, and that's you know I was about to testify on the US uh Senate help committee on this exact topic.
Would it be a better idea?
I mean, I'm watching, for example, they have this race out in California.
Everybody's shocked that Gavin Newsom, who is now offering free health care for everybody, whether you're pay a taxpayer, whether you're in the uh the the state legally or illegally, everybody's gonna get free health care.
Well, I basically put out a sign out that says come to California if you get sick.
Um because people are gonna go there.
Now, what's interesting to me is that a Republican is within striking distance in that gubernatorial race out in California because instinctively people know we can't afford to pay uh for every illegal immigrant in the country.
Uh but the reality is is that if I lived in Wichita, Kansas, I would be a part of Atlas MD and I would be your patient, uh, Dr. Umber, because I I think it's the best deal.
I like the idea of being able to call my doctor whenever I'm sick, or if I have a kid that's sick, every parent wants the ability to do that.
And your serv service provides it for fifty bucks a month.
Now, how much is the average in Wichita, Kansas catastrophic plan if if for the big things heart attack, uh accident or cancer?
How much would one of those plans cost?
About five hundred dollars a family.
Five hundred dollars for a year or a month?
A month.
So and the current rate's closer to, you know, a thousand twelve hundred uh across the nation.
People are paying more for health insurance each month than they are paying for their mortgage.
If the Trump tax cuts only put a hundred dollars per household per month in and they're being credited with the economic boom of you know, four point two percent GDP.
If we fix health insurance, we could put five hundred dollars back in the pocket of every household.
Uh the the real sin the the politician there has in California is the sen of unoriginality.
Just throwing more money at the problem has never fixed it.
What we're doing, uh Dr. Lee and ourselves and and a thousand other physicians is is innovating and saying, how do we get meds cheaper?
How do we make it so patients don't have copies?
How do we provide stitches for no cost because they're so affordable?
Um, you know, actually looking at ways that uh fundamentally fixing the system.
That's what we need, not just promises of more spending.
Well and if I could add to that just a bit, you know, as far as the cost of care, you know, the biggest thing that that people ask us is, you know, how can I just get major medical?
You know, we we can afford what what services the direct primary care practices are providing, but we just need something catastrophic.
Well, Obamacare made that illegal.
Uh so the Trump administration just brought back or expanded access to these major medical plans called short short term medical plans.
And you know, some would argue that these are actually true insurance.
They don't cover anything except for major medical expenses.
Uh but this is what it is.
This can be implemented easily city by city, town by town.
We can duplicate the model.
It already does take care of individuals with pre existing conditions.
If somebody wants to sign up for Atlas MD and they have a pre existing condition, uh Dr. Umber, do you deny them service?
Nope.
Everybody is welcome and everybody is priced the same, just based on age.
Um we know we're gonna work harder for some patients, but we also know we're gonna not have to work as hard for other patients, and we don't want people to be judged by their illness.
How did you get to to directly negotiate these prices with these pharmaceutical companies?
Boy, I I wish I could say it was because we're so darn good at it.
Um the the truth is it's so much more simple than that.
Doctors in forty-four states are allowed to work directly with pharmaceutical wholesalers.
So just like you can go to Costco and get something for much cheaper because you pay a membership, we do the same thing.
And we're able to get the you know, the actual cost of a medicine might be uh ten dollars for a thousand pills.
And because we don't have a staff of seven people per physician fighting insurance, we can lower the cost and and pass the savings on directly to the patient.
Th this is a win for everybody.
We we don't take care of of Republicans or Democrats, we take care of people.
So how does somebody how do a group of doctors in New York say implement this? 'Cause they're gonna look at this and say fifty bucks a month, I can't make ten cents off of that.
Well they're gonna have to move out of New York because they don't make it easy, but um they could work with a pharmacist in New York State.
It's one of the uh few states that make it uh very difficult.
But then a pharmacist could say, um, if you do a five dollar a month membership with them, then you get the medicine at cost.
That would be an amazing model.
It it would cut down their equation or California out of the equation.
And l let's say any other state, Louisiana, Florida, um I don't know, Missouri.
Yeah.
How do they do it?
It's as simple as signing up.
It's like shopping on Amazon.
There's there's almost nothing to it.
Um we have one supplier that makes it very easy, it's overnight shipping, and that's just it.
If I want to buy a bottle of a hundred pills of blood pressure medicine, I can.
If I want to buy a thousand pills, I can.
And it's about the same price.
Um, but it's fundamentally cheaper than one.
What about Lindsay Graham is saying that why don't we block grant the money that we're already providing to individual states and let them come up with these innovative, you know, like centers of innovation all around the country, and I think naturally people would move towards your system?
Well, I I I would agree with the logic.
Uh the the federal government's basically saying we've given you money with strings attached before, and we haven't received full value for that because we've weighed you down with regulatory burden.
So we're gonna cut those strings and just give you the money and say go forth and do the best job that you can.
All right, as we continue with Dr. Josh Umber, Atlas MD, and Dr. Lee S. Gross, he's the president of Docs for Patient Care Foundation and uh the founder of the Epiphany Health Direct Primary Care uh Network.
How much would it cost if a of some a woman has breast cancer?
Which is now I think one in seven women will get breast cancer in the course of their lives, or a guy maybe has prostate cancer.
How much would a treatment with the best medicine for breast cancer cost one of your patients?
Six dollars a month.
Okay, slow down.
Breast cancer, chemotherapy treatment, six dollars a month, and we're talking about the best most advanced medicine that we have.
Well, it d it really depends on what the oncologist says is the best medicine for that patient.
I'll be the first to say no.
Six dollars a month if you have breast cancer and need breast cancer treatment.
As low as, yes.
I mean, as low as, depending on the chemotherapy or but we've had patients who go, you know, we we find make the diagnosis, send them to the oncologist, they say, based on all of their tests and experience, this is the best medicine for you.
They take it to the pharmacy, they're quoted six or seven hundred dollars a month.
They called us and said, God, can't you make it any better?
And we were shocked.
But the wholesale cost of that medicine is six dollars.
So we're inflating the whole system with paperwork and and and bureaucracy.
We need to streamline and in uh innovate, just like Silicon Valley does with anything else.
Now, does this go for all the other cancers that are out there?
Leukemia and uh, you know, prostate cancer, lung cancer.
So, Sean, we had a patient come to us from out of the country with viral cancer.
Uh, and to have her surgery done in the Caribbean would have cost her a hundred thousand dollars.
She came to us on a six-month visa, uh, and we did her surgery, her her imaging, everything, entire treatment for under $10,000.
Now, you know, so that's a $90,000 savings.
Yeah, at a hundred thousand dollars, the conversation is she's gonna die from thyroid cancer.
A ten thousand dollar ten thousand dollars, it's you know, go to the church raise uh raise money in a big sale.
Uh and you know, considering that most people's out-of-pocket expenses now for health insurance plan is about eleven thousand dollars per year.
What are we insuring when the once-in-a-lifetime catastrophic event can be treated and cured for less than ten thousand dollars?
Bingo.
Unbelievable.
Well, look, I hope everybody will pay attention because in 28 days, Americans are gonna go to the polls and Obamacare won't work, and we know the left and the Democrats want to keep it.
And uh I applaud you guys for what you're doing, and the fact that you've been able to duplicate this model around the country speaks volumes about what your real mission is, and that is saving people's lives, and it's very inspiring.
Thank you both.
Thanks, Sean.
Thank you, Sean.
We'll talk more about it in the days coming up throughout the election.
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Listen to the revelation by Tom Perez.
There he says there are no more moderate Democrats.
When we see kids ripped from their parents at the border, that's an affront to our values as a nation.
When you see the union movement attacked by Republicans day in and day out, uh, when we see that there are no guardrails in Washington, I mean, we we we know that for sure.
There there are no moderate Democrats, basically, left moderate Republicans left in the United States.
Well, thank you for being so honest, Tom, and then listen to Democrats smearing, you know, their smear tactics that they use every two and four years.
Many Republicans talking coded racial language about takers and losers.
They demonize President Obama and encourage the ugliest impulses of the paranoid fringe.
If you accept the support of clan sympathizers before you are president, you all accept their support after your presence.
He's gonna let the big banks once again write their own rules.
chain Wall Street.
They're going to put you all back in chains.
It's wrong what the leader of the Republican Party and this Congress are doing in blocking an accurate census because they don't want to count everyone that they don't think they can count on.
They are in favor of affirmative action if you can dunk the basketball or sink a three-point shot.
But they're not in favor of it if you merely have the potential to be a leader in your community and bring people together.
Don't tell me we've got a colorblind society.
June 7, 1998, in Texas, my father was cute.
He was beaten, chained, and then drank three mouths to his death, all because he was black.
So when Governor George W. Bush refused to support hate crimes legislation, it was like my father was killed all over again.
When you don't vote, you let another church explode.
When you don't vote, you allow another cross to burn.
And then you got their plan, which is let's have dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance.
And everything I've told you about the agenda is all true.
Impeach 45!
I think there's no question that we've got to critically reexamine ICE and its role and the way that it is being administered and the work it is doing.
And we need to probably think about starting from scratch.
I think we need to abolish ICE.
That seems really clear.
In terms of the bonus that corporate America received versus the crumbs that they are getting to workers to kind of put the schmooze on, is so pathetic.
Please don't just come here today and then go home.
Go to the hill today.
Get up and please get up in the face of some Congress people.
Eliminating ICE, for instance.
And President Trump.
Yes.
They have strayed so far from the interests of the American people and the interests of humanity.
When the American people learn that some of them are not getting anything, some of them are getting raises, and the rest are getting crumbs, and big corporations and wealthy individuals are getting nice fat pieces of pie.
They're going to be outraged.
They are already.
The sooner the better.
ICE isn't doing what it was created to do.
It's being used as his own personal police force.
And in those actions, it's actually making us less safe.
Oh, when this country understands and feels what has been done with the tax scam and what that's going to do for our deficit in this country.
It's going to be reversed.
And I think you should reimagine ICE under a new agency with a very different mission and take those two missions out.
And so we believe that we should protect families that need our help.
And that is not what ICE is doing today.
And that's why I believe you should get rid of it.
What we have proposed is an increase in the corporate tax rate.
If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.
And you tell them they're not welcome.
Anyway, anywhere.
We need to rebuild our immigration system from top to bottom.
Starting by replacing ICE with something that reflects our morality and backwards.
Medicare for All is actually much more, is actually much cheaper than the current system that we pay right now.
They say, Maxine, please don't say impeachment anymore.
And when they say that, I say impeachment, impeachment.
Impeachment If it turns out that he does become Justice Kavanaugh and your chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, would you investigate him for possible impeachment?
If he is on the Supreme Court and the Senate hasn't investigated, then I then the House will have to.
You'll investigate.
We would have to investigate.
So yeah, there are no moderates in the Democratic Party.
Yeah, they smear, slander, bludgeon, besmirch, and character assassination is everything.
And I told you what their agenda is.
Keep Obamacare, impeach the president, Endless investigation.
They want to take the they want to raise taxes.
They want your crumbs back.
They want open borders, get rid of ICE.
What are they doing to make our world a better place?
We've had two of the greatest years of economic growth.
America's position on the world stage is now dramatically improved.
We're now a country that is, you know, back to a position of strength, not apology and appeasement, and things are getting better.
Are you better off than you were two years ago?
That's what's on the ballot four nights from tonight.
And you're gonna tune in to the news four weeks from tonight, and you're gonna watch, and you're either gonna be happy or miserable.
And the only way you can have a say in all this is if you get up, get out, and vote, and understand that the stakes here are very high.
There's a lot going up.
A lot going on.
All right, let's get to our phones.
Tony, are you waiting?
Can I say one thing?
What?
Just one thing.
Why do you why do you come in with the uh the sweet voice?
The sweet voice.
Well, I have to come in sweeter, I won't get on the air.
What?
You know?
Well I just wanted to say something.
Wow.
That you probably don't remember.
We have some birthdays in the house.
Okay.
Yeah, you're welcome.
Yeah, some of us have to remember birthdays.
I don't want to see any shaking heads.
I don't care.
Okay.
Jason is shaking his head.
Jason's birthday, so happy birthday to Jason.
Happy birthday, Jason.
You're welcome.
It was Ethan's birthday.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, Ethan.
Thank you.
It's Quinn's birthday today.
Happy birthday to Quinn.
Nobody knows Quinn.
Everyone knows Quinn.
You just don't know Quinn.
Quinn works on the Rush Limbaugh show.
He doesn't work on our show.
Yeah, well, he's popular.
You know, he comes by.
He says hello.
He's here.
Comes by.
He's well dressed.
He is.
That we give Quinn credit for that.
He's got way better socks than you have.
That's for darn sure.
What's wrong with my Nike socks?
Whatever.
Repulsive.
You don't have to see my socks.
Uh everyone has to see your socks because you sit in a high chair, because we all sit in high chairs in the studio and you wear sweats with dress shoes and you look silly.
They're not sweatsocks.
They're sweat socks.
Nike socks.
No, they're not.
They're sweat socks.
Nike.
Wear sports.
Jeans and a t-shirt.
What else do you want to do?
I didn't say the rest of your attire wasn't as egregious as your socks.
We're not talking about that.
But anyways, and I also wanted to say thank you to Ethan.
A shout out on the air.
Our team works so hard.
But last week we were in DC and Ethan really stepped up.
He came in early at eight o'clock in the morning without me even asking him.
Came in of his own volition and helped to set up a big meeting, and I just wanted to publicly thank him because we have such a good team.
Okay.
Okay.
Are we done?
I'm done.
Okay.
800 941 Sean Tollfrey telephone number.
You want to be a part of the program.
Why didn't you mention Kylie, the new person uh who's on our show?
It's not Kylie's birthday.
Well, you could say something nice about her, considering you even brought in people from Russia's show to say something nice about it and waste my air.
Well, you can't say anything nice about Kylie.
I'll say Kylie's doing a great job.
We're very honored to have her.
I'm very honored to have you on our hand and I'm sorry that you know you have to put up with this every day.
And she praises everybody else on the team and just ignores you.
Kylie, I am so sorry that you weren't born in October.
I am really sorry.
I don't know why you would have you could have found something nice to say, but I'll take care of it.
When is your birthday?
What month is your birthday?
My birthday's in July, and I get to, you know, experience some of these great cupcakes here.
So that's right.
I'm benefiting too.
That's right.
I bought cupcakes for everybody.
Excuse me.
Who paid for the cupcakes?
I did.
Okay.
Who paid for the cupcakes?
I did.
Well, what was it on uh the Grubhub feed today was twice as expensive?
That was your lunch.
My lunch was a little less.
No, your lunch was not little.
It was a lettuce round.
Very cranky.
Go ahead.
Do you call us?
They can't wait.
Tony in Oregon.
Hello, Tony.
How are you?
What's going on?
Sean, you are a great American.
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate you calling.
Twenty-eight days, Tony.
I hope you're going on to vote.
I am.
I've got my absentee ballot in the mail, and that's what I'm urging uh my fellow truckers out here.
Make sure your dispatcher gets you by your house.
Go register to vote and get your absentee ballot.
They say that only one in 20 truckers are gonna vote because we're away from the house for so much time.
Anyway, you guys, you gotta get home.
You gotta vote.
This could make a big difference.
We don't want unhinged wackos taking over.
You know what we're doing here.
Uh look, we have an opportunity to save this.
I will say this.
I appreciate the fact that the Democrats allowed us to see who they are the last three weeks.
Now they're unhinged.
They're on hinge, but they've been on hinge now for two years.
They cannot accept the will of the people.
And I will say, it would be with great satisfaction four weeks from today to tune in on election night for the midterms, and we, the people, shock the world again.
And that is if we pick up Senate seats and we end up uh keeping holding control in the House of Representatives, that would be a major, major win.
And I tell you right now, if you think they're onhing now, they'll they'll double down on unhinged.
And uh they deserve to.
Because look at what they've done to the country.
Look at what they oh they want to double down on investigation and lies.
They'll say and do anything for power, but they don't have an agenda that's gonna benefit anybody but themselves.
Uh Juliana is next, North Carolina.
Hey, Juliana, how are you?
Glad you called.
Very well.
Thank you so much for taking my call, Sean.
Yep, thank you.
Well, thank you for calling.
Thanks for being out there.
Hope you're voting in 28 days.
Absolutely, I am.
And I just honestly want to say thank you so much.
I watch your show.
My family watches your show nightly.
I listen to your show on the radio daily.
And I must say I'm a 26-year-old woman.
I am just disgusted the way that the Democrats handled his Bret Kavanaugh situation.
It's about time we get the right justice in there to do the right thing.
Well, I think we have, I agree.
I will tell you that this was a big fight.
It was a it's sad that it came down to the wire and one vote the way it did.
It's sad that this man's family had been through everything.
It's sad that allegations are and accusations are accepted as truth for people.
You know, we live in a very dangerous time where you could just make any allegation against anybody and people run with it and they think you're guilty.
Oh, I believe you.
I believe guilt by accusation.
You don't even get a chance to defend yourself at all.
Lack of the due process was ridiculous.
I'm a survivor of physical abuse myself, and it was just outrageous.
I was hysterical crying during that entire hearing, and Lindsey Graham said it the best.
I was so proud of him.
It was great the way he stood up.
Yeah, he really had his moment.
I'll tell you, if it wasn't for Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins, who I think gave the speech of her life in the Senate.
Today we have come to the conclusion of a confirmation process that has become so dysfunctional.
It looks more like a caricature of a gutter level political campaign than a solemn occasion.
The facts presented do not mean that Professor Ford was not sexually assaulted that night or at some other time, but they do lead me to conclude that the allegations failed to me the more likely than not standard.
Therefore, I do not believe that these charges can fairly prevent Judge Kavanaugh from serving on the court.
Mr. President, I will vote to confirm Judge Kavanaugh.
I don't think I don't think Brett Kavanaugh would have made it.
And I think what I loved about what Susan Collins did is how independently and methodically she went through every detail of how she was voting the way she was voting.
Exactly.
Yep.
They did a great thing.
By the way, I'm honest.
Well, I'm sorry you've been through abuse too, by the way.
I listen, I know too many people, too many people that have suffered greatly at the hands of these corrupt evil individuals.
And I'm gonna tell you something.
Um it is evil.
If you abuse anybody in any way, shape, manner, or form, you deserve the full force of the law to come down upon you.
And uh it's terrible.
But hang in there, okay.
It was just disgusting.
Thank you so much, Sean.
I appreciate it.
All right, thank you.
Right, 28 days, four weeks from tonight, the biggest election midterm in our lifetime.
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