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All right, 63 days, the most important midterm elections in our lifetime.
I'm not sure most people understand the urgency of these midterms and what it means.
You know, just as we're coming on the air here, if you if you don't get it, you should soon get it because uh Chuck Schumer's actually saying it.
It just so happens in a video posted on YouTube by a constituent.
You can hear the uh constituent asking, Chucky Schumer, when are you gonna impeach Trump?
Anyway, it was at a Labor Day parade, and uh he answers the sooner the better.
Let's play it.
It's a little hard to hear, but it's it's real.
That's them.
That's what their agenda is in 63 days.
Here's what he says.
We got to the better.
Sooner the better.
And the co constituent pushed back at Schumer, saying that he'd not answered the question, and he goes, Well, we got to get a few Republicans on our side.
He said the Democrats are on your side.
And uh let's listen to that.
No, we don't have that part.
The audio's bad on that.
All right.
Anyway, so he's saying he wants to, but that's what the election's about in 63 days.
That's it.
Anyway, I hope you had a good Labor Day weekend.
Uh it's gonna be a very intense run.
We saw the hearings today and and total planned chaos break out in the Kavanaugh hearings.
Uh, before we get to some of what went on here, if you caught any of this, what you saw is a a typical radical left-wing spectacle.
And I told you it didn't matter who Donald Trump picked, this was going to be the actions of the Democrats.
The only reason you're gonna get some Democrats to vote for Kavanaugh is because they come from red Trump states like Manchin in West Virginia is never gonna win his Senate seatback.
So what you have is I would call it an election year conversion.
You'll probably get the same thing, Claire McCaskill is fighting for her life.
Let's see what Bill Nelson down in Florida does, or Donnelly and Indiana does, or Heidi Heitkamp in North Dakota does.
All these people now fighting for their lives, and they should be defeated if we can get people to understand the magnitude and the importance of the midterm election.
And it's really this simple.
Chuck Schumer, this is what they say behind closed doors.
This is what they want to do.
This is what we've heard over and over again from Maxime Waters and others.
Impeach 45, impeach 45.
They've wanted to impeach him before he was elected.
As if it wasn't bad enough.
We have a lot of deep state news that we've got to share with you.
I think the most significant development since this entire investigation of ours has started, and that relates to uh Bruce Orr, the fourth ranking official of the DOJ, we now know was keeping Mueller's team, Mueller's pit bull, a guy we've talked an awful lot about, Andrew Weisman in the loop about the steel dossier that Steele himself doesn't even believe it.
Anyway, so if you watch this morning, it all started out.
The Senate Judiciary Committee chairman, Charles Grassley, literally it was impossible for him to complete his opening sentence, and what we now know was planned and plotted and schemed ahead of time, and Democrats begin interrupting him, trying to hijack the hearings.
You know, he'd rule out Camilla Harris and he'd she'd be out of order, and then like clockwork in comes Richard Blumenthal, and he'd start in.
When Blumenthal would shut up, Grassley would attempt to restart the hearing, and then Corey Booker would chime in.
And as all of this was going on, you had all these left-wing Democratic radical groups were in the gallery constantly shouting, constantly interrupting, and it was all orchestrated.
And you know, for some really strange, outrageous reason.
In the past, security, once somebody stepped up, they were taken out of the room.
And they wouldn't be allowed to disrupt the hearing.
That didn't happen this time.
They should have kicked these people out a lot sooner.
And anyway, I was kind of disappointed a little bit in Grassley.
I think he should have ordered the gallery to be cleared of any of these people that were disruptive of these hearings.
I mean, for this guy not to be able to finish a sentence.
I was watching poor Orrin Hatch.
How many what this is his 15th Supreme Court confirmation hearing?
He's trying to make complete a sentence and they wouldn't let him.
John Cornyn had it right when he compared what was going on to quote mob rule.
But the icing on the cake is that all of this, the entire charade, this was reported by Breitbart earlier today that Dick Durbin admitted in the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the nomination of Kavanaugh that he and other Democrats participated in a conference call on how to disrupt the hearings.
And Durbin was responding to a question by Senator Tom Tillis, North Carolina, who cited an NBC news tweet from earlier in the morning that reported that Senate Democrats had planned over the Labor Day weekend that they were going to use this technique, these tactics, protests, interruptions.
Anyway, NBC's Casey Hunt had tweeted out Democrats plotted coordinated protest strategy over the holiday weekend.
They all agreed to disrupt and protest the hearing.
Democratic leader Chucky Schumer led a phone call, and the committee members are now executing it.
Then NBC News confirmed the plot with its politics division tweeting.
Democratic Senators opened Kavanaugh confirmation hearing with a protest plan that was coordinated and agreed to over the weekend, according to people familiar with all the planning.
So Senator Tillis says, I just want to be clear that none of the members on this committee participated in that phone call or that strategy before the documents were released.
Are you suggesting that this allegation is false?
Dick Durbin, well, he was asked to respond, but merely deflected the issue on whether the committee had been provided enough documents on Kavanaugh, which is an issue I'll respond to in a minute.
He's given more documents than the last five Supreme Court nominees combined.
We did eventually get 22 protesters that were arrested at the Brent Kavanaugh confirmation in just in the morning session alone.
And I don't think we had 22 arrests in the entire history, by the way, of the Tea Party.
I don't know if that's true.
I'm just guessing.
But Democrats on the they seem to, you know, this this is what the Democratic Party has evolved into.
It doesn't surprise me Chuck Schumer's on tape saying can't be soon enough to impeach Trump.
We got sooner the better.
Sooner the better.
I mean it got so bad at the hearings, I don't know about you, but I'm tired of watching, you know, Trump supporters being chased out of one venue after another.
You know, of course, we have the new rules, which are get in their faces.
Actually, that rule started with Obama.
He had said, get in their faces.
I'll send Mr. Burgess to take on Sean Hannity'll tear him up.
Maybe I should have soothed.
Maybe that was a threat on my safety.
I don't know.
Maybe I interpreted it the wrong way at the time.
Maybe it was being too gracious, too nice to Barack Obama.
Uh but these Democrats have a penchant, you know, as it relates to this.
I mean, look at, you know, Betsy DeVoss was chased down a street by screaming Democrats.
Secretary Kristen Nielsen, Sarah Sanders run out of restaurants by Democrats.
Ivanka Trump harassed on an airplane by a belligerent uh Democrat.
Pam Bondy threatened with physical violence by you know these these left-wing lunatics.
Peter Fonda suggesting, you know, oh, it'd be a good idea to assault Secretary Nielsen.
Avanka Trump called the C-word by a psychotic Democratic so-called comedian.
Brent Kavanaugh's two daughters today had to be escorted out of the confirmation hearing with all of these protesters and the screaming and the antics and the tactics that was all planned and plotted.
Now I'm sure the Democrats are proud of themselves that they got to run, you know, two little kids out of a confirmation hearing today.
Isn't that nice?
Let's move the children out.
It's not safe, as the Democrats put on their show.
Anyway, they just sought to delay this for no real reason.
But I it it does offer a snapshot of what the American left vis-a-vis the liberal Democratic Party looks like today.
And, you know, you give them back their power, what are you gonna get?
Well, you're not gonna continue the economic success we've had.
And they've, you know, Chuck Schumer telegraphed it well.
Chuck Schumer is saying what all Democrats are saying.
The sooner the better.
That's what they've always wanted.
It's not working for them.
But what do we got?
We got four million new jobs for Americans in less than two years.
We've got two million fewer Americans on food stamps.
Millions of Americans out of poverty.
We got record low unemployment in 14 states.
We have a 51-year low, record low unemployment for youth in America.
That's good because if kids don't have a summer job, what are they doing?
They're getting in trouble with the dopey friends.
We have record low unemployment for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workforce.
All of that comes to a halt.
Because the agenda in 63 days should Nancy Pelosi, who apparently was out in the Hamptons with Chuck Schumer and George Stephanopoulos and whatever that Hamptons crowd is.
I didn't get my invitation.
And I live in Long Island.
I wasn't even invited.
I'm shocked.
But apparently she's, you know, ready, already out there.
She's literally picking out the drapes for her new office.
And, you know, but we have a poll that shows a majority of blue-collar workers think they're better off under Trump than Obama.
And they are.
You've got the Democratic governor, uh gubernatorial candidate, the Tallahassee mayor bragging on Meet the Press that he got all his money from George Soros and some guy, Tom Steyer.
All these left-wing radicals that have their agenda.
What about the people of Florida's agenda?
I mean, really?
What about the forgotten men and women that 2016 was about?
If you don't vote, this is what you get.
In the midterms, apparently out in the Hamptons this weekend, I can't believe I was not given my invitation.
But Chuck Schumer was there.
Nancy Pelosi were there.
Oprah Winfrey was there.
George Stephanopoulos, Katie Korick, Savannah Guthrie, Joy Behar were there.
Joy Les Behar.
I don't know how it's possible that I was not given an invitation.
Wasn't even far.
I could have driven out in a couple hours.
I could have been there.
Instead, I was fishing for snappers and you know, in Oyster Bay Sound.
Oh, I got pictures.
I caught it.
Just throw out just simple.
Yeah, just little baby snappers.
I mean, it's fun to catch them.
At least I catch a fish.
I get to say I caught one.
I'm not the fisherman that Ethan is.
He's a fisherman nut.
But I like to get little tips and clues.
And I noticed I got sunburned.
Yeah.
Oh, where do you think that came from?
Sitting out there in the sun roasting, waiting for a fish.
It's Trump's fault.
Of course it's Trump's fault.
The sun shines.
It rains, it snows.
It's all Trump's fault.
Dog bites, the bee sings.
You're feeling sad.
It's all Trump's fault.
Anyway, so they had all these people there.
Apparently, also Martha Stewart was there.
Bob Kraft was there.
Oprah Winfrey, as I said, at the soiree.
And I'm sure they all talked about those of us that are smelly Walmart people, as Peter Strzok refers to us.
Or irredeemable deplorables.
Or those that cling to our God guns and Bibles and religion people.
Yeah, guilty as charged.
A lot at stake in 63 days.
What are you going to do?
How many of you are registered?
How many of you are going to take the time, get off your ass, and go out and vote because you know what's at stake here?
I don't feel the urgency yet from conservatives.
Because all progress is going to stop.
Investigations galore.
They'll take back their crumbs that they're obsessed with getting back.
They'll get rid of vice, open borders, keep Obamacare and impeach the president.
And endless investigations, except into the deep state.
Those investigations will go away because that protects their deep state friends that help them.
All right, as we roll along, Sean Hannity Show 800 941 Sean Tollfree Television.
So this is all planned and plotted in advance to be belligerent and shriek and hecklers and Democrats and not let anybody finish the sentence and Schumer plot, whatever.
44 Democratic interruptions in the first 40 minutes, and why the room wasn't cleared, I don't know.
Other breaking news, by the way, the governor of Arizona has chosen John Kyle to complete McCain's term.
And, you know, he's been there.
He knows how to do it.
He's not running for reelection.
And then probably a good choice by the governor.
We'll see how John Kyle feels about Judge Kavanaugh.
We'll see how he feels about Obamacare if that vote comes back up again and some other issues.
I'd like to see where he stands on the issues before we get that.
But you gotta understand this is your new Democratic Party.
Forget about the Ginsburg rule in this case.
Even the Washington Post today is arguing against the Ginsburg rule.
1993, no hints of, in other words, how she will rule on any particular issue, no forecasts, and no previews.
Whatever happened to the Ginsburg rule that everybody so loved.
Then of course, we have the treatment of Robert Bork by Ted Kennedy.
Smear, slander, besmirchment, character assassination.
Robert Bork's America is a land in which women would be forced into back alley abortions.
Blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters.
Rogue police could break down citizens' doors and midnight raids, and school children could not be taught about evolution.
Writers and artists would be censured at the whim of government.
Yeah.
And then, of course, Clarence Thomas and the way he was horribly treated, and it resulted in him fighting back and winning his confirmation.
This is a circus.
It's a national disgrace.
It is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves.
And it is a message that unless you cowtown to an old order, you will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S., U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree.
Sad, isn't it?
But that's, you know, 40 interruptions, 40 minutes, typical and sad.
All right, we got to take a break.
We'll come back.
We'll get to your phone calls right down our toll-free number.
It's 800 941 Sean.
Where do we get to Bruce Orr keeping Mueller's deputy Andrew Weisman in the loop about the anti-Trump dossier?
We'll get to that more straight ahead.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour, 800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
A lot of news.
So we got the elections, the midterms in just 63 short days.
We've got all the Kavanaugh hearings going on.
A lot of people talking about Woodward's book.
You know, I can go through verse and chapter.
You know, Woodward is never gonna write a good book about a sitting president or one that doesn't have salacious gossip or people that have that talk that used to be there that aren't there, that wish they were there, that feel that they were mistreated or whatever.
And it's just part of the process, I guess in this day and age, if you're gonna be president, it just goes with the territory.
Um, Newt Gingrich to, in fairness to him, he did it.
I mean, we do have four million new jobs created.
We do have more Americans employed than ever before in history, the greatest labor participation rate in history, the opposite of Obama.
You know, Obama said manufacturing jobs weren't coming back.
We have nearly 500,000 new manufacturing jobs.
It's growing at a faster rate than it has in three decades.
4.2% economic growth last quarter.
The Atlanta Fed is saying it's gonna be in the fours for the next quarter.
New unemployment claims at a fifth 49-year low.
You got median household income at the highest level.
You got 14 states' record low unemployment, record low unemployment for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace the lowest in what, 65 years, youth unemployment the lowest in 51 years, lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
Um you got almost four million Americans off of food stamps since the election.
Four million jobs, four million people off of food stamps.
I mean, it's an amazing reversal of fortune, and that's what's at stake.
You know, you add that that the president also has put America on a path to energy independence.
You know, the Keystone Dakota access pipelines, ANWAR is now open.
You have more regulations that have been taken off the books, so it's now become a business-friendly country once again.
The individual Obamacare mandate is gone.
More affordable health care options for people.
I mean, it goes on and on.
You know, on top of that, the president's keeping his promise.
He got six billion more dollars to fight the opioid epidemic.
And I can go on and on from here.
Got a record $700 billion in military funding because it was dilapidated under Obama.
Then of course, the president wants to do the wall, et cetera, et cetera.
By the way, when did Louis Farrakhan ever become mainstream?
You see him sitting next to a former president of the United States at what was it, Aretha Franklin's funeral?
Good grief.
Eric Holder says he wants to be president posing for a picture with Lewis Farrakhan.
I mean, I assume they know who this is.
The Satanic Jews.
They control everything and mostly everybody.
If they are your enemy, then you must must be somebody.
On the night of September the 17th, 1985, I was carried up on that mountain in a vision with a few friends of mine.
As we reached the top of the mountain, a wheel or what you call an unidentified flying object appeared at the side of the mountain, and I was called from the wheel.
The wheel to come up into the wheel.
I travel in a wheel all around.
Three metal eggs appeared from the wheel, giving me the impression that it was going to land, but it never came over the mountain.
Being somewhat afraid, I called to the members of my party to come with me, but a voice from the wheel spoke saying, not them, just you.
I was told to relax, and a beam of light came from the wheel, and I was carried up on this beam of light into the wheel.
I sat next to the pilot.
However, I could not see him.
I could only feel his presence.
As the wheel lifted off from the side of the mountain, moving at a terrific speed, I knew I was being transported to the mother wheel, or the mother plane, which is a human-built planet a half a mile by a half a mile, which the Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught us of for over 60 years.
Anyway, back to the wheel.
One other thing before we move on to some of the deep state issues.
I mentioned the Kavanaugh-Ginsburg standard.
If you're watching these hearings at all, the main crux of the Democrats'argument is that we haven't had time.
There's so many papers.
In total, you've got more than 425 or 50,000 pages of records on Brett Kavanaugh.
Now, if you want to look at it in terms of the total of the records that were handed over as it relates to Kavanaugh, were literally it more than doubles the number provided for Olena Kagan during her confirmation process.
And get this, it's more than five, more than the last five nominees document totals combined.
And that's just on the pages that were handed over.
On top of that, there were reports that if Congress wanted to see or the Senate wanted to see additional documents on the basis of constitutional executive privilege, well, they provided another hundred plus thousand pages of documents, and the letter stated that the most significant portion of the documents reflected deliberations and candid advice concerning selection of the nomination of judicial candidates.
And by the way, is Ted Cruz had rightly point out, this was not his stuff.
But he's just giving opinions.
So all of this is a show.
And forget the Ginsburg rule.
That's now that's now done.
That's finished.
But it's going to go on.
The ranting, the raving, the chaos, and guess what's going to happen at the end of the process?
Brett Kavanaugh's going to be on the U.S. Supreme Court.
Um, I think the biggest story while I was away, I want to get into this in more details.
Catherine Heridge broke it at the Fox News Channel on Fox News.com.
And the headline was DOJ's Bruce Orr kept Mueller deputy in the loop About the anti-Trump dossier.
He's talking about the Christopher Steele dossier.
Now, what's amazing about this is Christopher Steele, when Push came to shove and his own dossier was he was questioned about it in an interrogatory in Great Britain under oath and the threat of perjury.
Even he said, uh, I don't know if it's true.
It's, you know, maybe 50 50.
So how could that happen?
Anyway, the piece goes on that Bruce Orr, remember, he's the fourth highest ranking member of the Justice Department.
He's been demoted twice now, had contact.
This name will sound familiar to you.
Andrew Weissman in 2016, now a top Robert Mueller deputy.
Well, he's more than that.
Andrew Weissman is, as the New York Times called him, Robert Mueller's pit bull.
And this is a guy that when he was involved in the Enron investigation and Anderson accounting, tens of thousands of people ended up losing their jobs needlessly.
This is a guy that was overturned by the Supreme Court 9-0.
You really have to be spectacularly wrong to lose 9-0.
This is a guy that was excoriated for withholding exculpatory evidence in cases.
This is a guy that sent four Merrill executives to jail for a year.
Read Sidney Powell's book, license to lie for a year, and that was overturned by the Fifth Circuit.
Anyway, we're now finding out that Bruce Orr was in contact with Andrew Weisman.
Now we had learned in the weeks previous with all the text messages and handwritten notes, and Christopher Steele is hoping that his fire walls plural hold, and that he's worried about being exposed and scared to death about the Grassley Committee investigation and scared to death about James Comey's testimony that was upcoming before Congress.
Anyway, Fox News goes on to point out, and Catherine Heridge that Orr's outreach about the dossier as well as Christopher Steele, the opposition research firm behind it, Glenn Fusion, Fusion GPS.
I'm sorry, Glenn Simpson Fusion GPS.
Nellie Orr is Bruce Wife's uh Bruce Orr's wife and works for Fusion.
Sorry, I'm getting this straight.
It occurred before and and after the FBI had fired Steele over lying and leaking documents.
Orr's network of contacts as it relates to the dossier we now find out included Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, you know, both gone from the FBI.
Uh deputy director Andrew McCabe, Weissman, and at least one other DOJ official and a current FBI agent who worked with Strzok on the Russia case.
You notice that this is one big incestuous mess, and that they're literally taking this crap and Orr and Christopher Steele are communicating about well, what about your contacts at the special counsel's office?
Well, Steele, we know his dossier was debunked.
It was full of lies and insinuations that even he doesn't stand by.
Well, this report goes on to say that Andrew Weissman, who is Mueller's pit bull, was kept in the loop on the dossier while he was the chief of the criminal fraud division.
He's now assigned to Muller's team.
And the list includes several figures who have since attracted the scorn of the president as he decries this ridiculous Russia probe that now heads into its 18th month, 500th plus day, and those involved in the early stages of this, and that means Orr and his wife Nellie Orr in Fusion GPS and you know, all the other people involved here.
Bruce Orr was a top boss at the Department of Justice.
He's still working for the Department of Justice.
Amazing.
And Orr's broad circle of contacts indicates that members of the FBI leadership knew about his back channel activities to the guy that they fired, Christopher Steele, who put together the phony dossier that we now know Hillary Clinton and the DNC funded.
They funneled the money through a law firm into Fusion GPS.
They hired Steele.
Steele accumulates Russian lies, disseminates it to the American people, to lie to and propagandize the American people to purposely misinform the American people before a presidential election, and then it also becomes the basis of a Pfizer warrant.
And you have a Republicans that are trying to get to the bottom of everybody's specific role here in perpetuating these lies and disseminating these lies.
This unverified dossier.
There's a great question.
What efforts, if any, did the FBI take to verify or corroborate what was in the dossier?
That became the bulk of information to get the Pfizer warrant.
Because it's part of the law that they you can't present something to a judge that you don't know to be true on your own.
They never verified it.
They never corroborated it.
They just wanted it to be true.
Anyway, the uh the House Intel Committee memo released in February said Steele maintained contact with Orr both before and after he was fired by the FBI.
And shortly after the election, the FBI began interviewing Orr and documenting his communications with Steele.
Remember, the FBI paid Steele 11 straight months.
Steele's getting money from Clinton, the DNC, Fusion GPS, and the FBI.
It's insanity.
In 2016, Steele admitted to Orr's feelings about Donald Trump.
He was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected.
He was passionate about him not being president.
So that explains the lies that he put together.
And Orr's handwritten notes.
We know that two weeks after the election, he made a list including Strzok, an FBI agent, whom, by the way, may have been a reference to the meeting.
No prosecution yet.
He goes, push ahead on M. M meaning Manafort.
Go back to Chris, meaning Christopher Steele.
So they were pushing this almost immediately as it relates to the election.
The same month, Steele was fired by the FBI.
He's a confidential store source over his contacts with the media.
Also, according to court records, the FBI memo also states that Andrew Weisman in fact met with him on April 2017.
And it met with a group of reporters about Manafort.
This was on the eve of his appointment by Robert Mueller to the special counsel.
That timing is significant because it came one month before the FBI director Comey was fired.
And Mueller was appointed to lead the special counsel team.
And Republican lawmakers who questioned Orr earlier this week say the connection between Orr, his wife Nellie, who did Russia research for Fusion GPS, you know, were well known.
When they went to court, the FBI note knew three important things.
They didn't disclose this to the court, meaning the Pfizer court.
They knew the Orr's involvement in the production of the dossier.
They knew Christopher Steele had an extreme bias against the president.
They knew who paid for the dossier.
They didn't disclose any of this to Pfizer court judges on four separate occasions.
And Fusion GPS, they didn't respond to Fox News inquiries about it, and their financial records were subject to a lawsuit, not public, apparently.
And Nellie Orr received multiple payments in 2016 from Fusion GPS.
Apparently, not small change either.
Bruce Orr never revealed it to the Justice Department.
Fox News contacted lawyers for the current officials with Orr, as well as Muller's office.
They're not commenting on it.
It's unbelievable.
Just one big massive collusion to unseat a sitting president.
Mark Meadows, one of the uh officials identified by Orr was Andrew Weissman.
I guess that explains why Mueller isn't interested in investigating how the Justice Department used the bogus steel dossier and lied and committed a fraud on the Pfizer courts.
All right, a lot to get to today.
We'll get to the Kavanaugh hearings.
Jay Seculow coming up.
Also will take it check in with these are huge developments.
Bruce Orr kept Muller's deputy Andrew Weissman in the loop about the phony Steel dossier.
Well, that's pretty blockbuster testimony.
The election in 63 days, Dave Bratt Freedom Caucus, why this election matters so much and why you need to pay attention and register and maybe even get off your ass and go vote.
Sorry to be so blunt.
We'll continue.
It's my understanding that everything that Bruce Orr did was approved, uh, and known to senior department of justice officials, coordinated close with the FBI.
So I think this is something that you know will have to be looked at.
I don't know all the facts here, but I think some of the facts that are being purported by some members of Congress uh may not, in fact, be the actual facts.
It's really an unprecedented use of official prosecutorial resources to Have him that deeply involved in generating this opposition research.
We need to know who else at the FBI knew what he was doing.
We need to know when he started dealing with people like Glenn Simpson at Fusion GPS, what his interactions were with Christopher Steele and the financial interest that he had in stake.
Because his wife Nellie Orr worked for Fusion GPS, and you're not allowed to be a federal official and participate in matters that you have a financial interest.
So I think there's a whole host of questions, but he really is a critical kind of wheel in this whole collusion cog that we've been able to expose over the last few months.
You said you did not personally receive documents from Mr. Orr, but the FBI did.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
And you also said the FBI got documents from a different source in mid-September.
Different source than whom?
Uh different source from Mr. Orr.
It was not Mr. Orr who provided the initial documents that I became aware of in mid-September.
So Mr. Orr did not hand you the dossier?
That's Mr. Orr didn't hand me anything.
Mr. Orr provided information to the FBI that included material that is what everybody's calling the dossier.
Oh, so Mr. Orr did give uh Steele as a rever as it relates to the dossier.
What else are we going to learn here?
The biggest news since I was out for the Labor Day holiday is that Bruce Orr's Department of Justice kept Mueller's deputy in the loop about the anti-Trump dossier.
Now, this is a guy that was meeting with Christopher Steele, who himself doesn't stand by his own dossier, meeting before the election, after the election, in what has you know been a debunked dossier.
We we need to get answers to this question.
Did the FBI in any way, shape, manner, or form ever try to verify what became the bulk of information presented to a Pfizer court because it appears they did nothing.
But anyway, Bruce Orr had contact with Andrew Weissman in 2016.
Remember Andrew Weissman.
He is, according to the New York Times, Mueller's pit bull.
He's the guy that lost 9-0 in the Supreme Court.
He's the guy that was involved in the Enron case that tens of thousands of Americans lost their jobs on.
He's the guy that put four Merrill executives in jail for a year.
They were innocent.
That was overturned by the Fifth Circuit.
He's the one involved in the Manafort bank loan case, as if it has it had nothing to do with Trump, the campaign, Russia collusion.
Nothing.
Well, now we find out that Weissman, now a top Mueller deputy, his pit bull, and other senior FBI officials about the controversial dossier and the individuals behind it.
The sources said that Orr's outreach about the dossier, as well as its author, uh Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson, who runs Fusion GPS, and Nellie Orr, Bruce Orr's wife, who works for Fusion, occurred both before and after the FBI fired Steele as a source over his media contacts.
And Orr's network of contacts, in fact, included, let's see, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page and Andrew McCabe and Weissman and at least one other DOJ official and our current FBI agent who work with Struck on the Russia case.
Quote Weissman was kept in the loop on the dossier, according to a source.
Well, he was the chief of the criminal fraud division, now assigned to Muller's team.
If that's not a conflict, I don't know what is.
Anyway, the list includes a number of figures who have since attracted the scorn of the president because obviously look at the connections here.
And the one thing that we know about Christopher Steele is we can't have Donald Trump as president.
And Christopher Steele wouldn't even stand behind his own dossier.
Uh joining us now, we have David Schoen, civil and criminal civil liberties attorney and criminal rights attorney.
And he's been following this case closely.
And Mr. Schoen, how are you, sir?
Fine, thanks.
How are you?
I'm good.
So to me, the fact that Bruce Orr is keeping Mueller's pit bull in the loop in all of this, and nobody has ever given any evidence that they ever tried to even independently verify what Steele himself wouldn't even stand behind, is mind numbing to me.
Right.
I mean, this is another key fact now that you've brought up brought out is keeping Weissman in the loop.
And as we know from everything we see in this case, if Weisman is involved, something bad happened.
You know, you listed some of his uh accomplishments over the course of his career.
I think you're a little too modest.
Weisman is also the fellow who has been cited by a federal judge for withholding exculpatory evidence in the key case in which he licensed a mob killer to stay on the street and to continue killing.
That case is still pending today, seeking a new trial uh for the people who wrongly convicted in that case.
But look it goes on and on.
I think what you have to keep your eye on now with Orr, what you've brought out so many in so many different ways now, is the company he was keeping.
It's not coincidental who his wife works for.
It's not coincidental we met with Glenn Simpson.
It's not coincidental now that he's passing this information up the chain.
And remember, Bruce Orr said that it wasn't uh it was just raw material, and that's why he didn't tell his immediate supervisor.
But who he was keeping in the loop were these anti-Trump pro-Clinton forces operating in justice.
And the biggest question perhaps of all is why is Orr acting so far outside his job description with all of this.
Well, I mean, I think that's a that's a great piece.
He got demoted twice.
Why does he still have a job?
I think is another question here.
Right.
That's that that's absolutely right.
I mean, it we've never seen a Justice Department operating rogue like this before.
Maybe it's happened, but we've never seen it.
We've never learned about it, at least.
Um, it's it's become completely politicized, and it has to be shaken up from top to bottom.
There is no possible way to do that.
This was the number four guy at the Department of Justice, David.
That's right.
This is not some low-level guy at the Department of Justice.
And when it's one after another.
Well, I mean, we even saw in the emails that he had and the the text message exchanges and the handwritten notes that he was scared to death of being exposed by Senator Grassley's committee.
He was scared to death that the firewalls wouldn't hold just before James Comey testified, and he was afraid that and firewalls, by the way, is plural, and he was afraid that he would get exposed.
All of those things to me indicate that they knew what they were doing was wrong.
And it in a sense I mean, when you add the struck page and their text exchanges in context and the fact that we now know that they're all interconnected in all of this, what does it tell you that there was a vast conspiracy against the president, then candidate and then president elect Trump?
That politicized probably the most important department in our government, certainly the department whose integrity is the most important because people's lives are at stake uh every every day with that department.
Listen, yours you've put out all of the pieces.
You've exposed the players now.
It has to be put together so that people see this is not just coincidence that there were so many bad actors with an agenda there.
At some point, we have to say if it walks like a duck, it clacks like a duck.
This is what we believe it to be, what you have just described.
Well, let's go a little bit further here, because Congressional Republicans are still trying to get to the bottom of Orr's role in in this and the circulation of this unverified dossier, which is a critical piece of the evidence and obtaining the surveillance warrant.
As a matter of fact, we're told it was the bulk of evidence.
Uh we know, and more and more leaks out on a regular basis that Orr was grilled by the House committees behind closed doors for seven hours.
And we know in the House Intel Committee memo released in February that Steele maintained contact with Orr.
We know that there are handwritten notes.
We know that we know what are in these notes.
He made a list, including Paige and Strck and the FBI agent, which may have been a reference to a meeting, no prosecution yet, uh push case ahead on M, meaning Manafort.
may go back to Chris, he wrote.
Congressional investigators told Fox they believe M is for Manafort.
Chris is likely Christopher Steele.
And the same month Steele was fired at by the FBI as a confidential source over lying and leaking.
So I mean, uh uh how what how do we interpret all of this except to be an effort by high-ranking people to conspire against a sitting president at this point?
It's astonishing.
I don't think there's any other fair interpretation to be put on it if somebody looks at just the faction put out there.
But you know what?
You focused before on the Pfizer application and the importance of that process and the omission from the applications, including the multiple renewals of what we now know they knew about Steele's lack of credibility and the problems with steel that was not told to the Pfizer court.
I want to clear one thing up if I can very briefly.
You know, people have been mocking the president's Trump uh President Trump's tweet about the lack of hearings by the Pfizer court.
People say, oh, they don't usually hold hearing.
Let's be real clear about this.
This is not the usual case.
This is an investigation to the president of the United States with multiple renewals.
The rules of the Pfizer court expressly give that court the authority to conduct hearings.
That's rule 17 of the court of the court's rules.
It wouldn't be there unless they had the authority to.
There are enough questions that should have been asked here to conduct hearings.
And secondly, the government has an absolute obligation under Rule 13 of the Pfizer Court to supplement its submissions when any material facts have been omitted.
We know now that they've been omitted.
Where's the supplication?
So they shouldn't be mocking the president's tweet and focusing on terms like hearings and not hearing.
The point is the president's trying to make is the integrity of that process that's lacking based on the misleading and uh uh government application and multiple renewals full of omissions, signed off on, by the way, by Rod Rosen's team.
Let me bring in uh our good friend Sebastian Gorker, author of Why We Fight.
Uh the interesting reveal also on top of all of this that Bruce Orr was keeping, you know, Muller's pit bull, Andrew Weissman in the loop.
But the FBI memo also states that Weissman met as early as April of 2017 with a group of reporters about Manafort.
And now we know that way before that he had been kept in the loop the entire time as it relates to all of this.
And then he's telling reporters on the eve of him even being appointed by Muller.
I mean, it's pretty amazing.
It's absolutely incredible, Sean.
If you just you just have to lay out the facts, like the way you do on your show every night with the monologue.
I think about the fact that those notes you just discussed.
Three weeks ago, Fox News uh can uh outline that those notes from Bruce Orr had lines in it such as his being very concerned that they will be exposed.
Who's the they and what is he afraid about being exposed?
Then if you connect that to the great investigative reporting that's being done by Lee Smith, he he has documented, it's all unclassified.
He's documented seven occasions, Sean, when somebody connected to the FBI or the DOJ as a potential asset as somebody who's worked with them before was dangled before the Trump campaign in an attempt to make somebody there do something wrong.
Well, in in layman speak, that's called entrapment.
When you try more than half a dozen times, whether it's Carter Page, whether it's Papadopoulos or anybody else, to get a political campaign to do something that's illegal, they didn't do anything but trying that hard, that's entrapment.
And that's why the left is running scared.
That's why Bruce Orr is running scared, because all the things that are still going to come out, Sean.
I'm beginning to wonder whether or not Bruce Orr is starting now to realize that his own future is in jeopardy here, because it sounds like behind closed doors that he's being a little bit more honest than some of uh his predecessors that have attempted to obstruct the House committees from from getting to the bottom of it.
We'll take a break more with Dr. Gorka, his book, uh Why We Fight, and also more with David Shon, 800 941 Sean is on number.
You want to be a part of the program.
Uh final moments as we continue with David Schoen and Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Dr. Gorka, uh looking at all of this, we still don't see the progress we need.
We don't see the indictments that I think need to be handed down.
We don't see the abuse of power covered by the mainstream media.
And you wonder, you know, since the Mueller investigation has gone so far from its original mandate, or I guess it was so wide.
When do the people that had the highest levels of power, when do they get held accountable?
Well, that that is just that really is, you know, is Lady Justice blindfold or not.
If you have the last name Clinton, does that mean you get a free pass?
The director of the FBI will list how many tri times you broke the law with your private homebrew server, but then will encourage the DOJ not to prosecute you.
This is the the question.
Can we rein instill the faith of the American people in the justice system?
Uh and and it gets, you know, the more you f it's hard to follow this stuff because there's so much corruption, so many people involved.
But the more you find out, the more you realize the breadth of what we are talking about.
We're just talking about Pfizer Gate right now.
And you've been you've been, you know, handling that, and you have the the right approach to it.
But what about the other scandals?
What about unmasking?
Unmasking could potentially be much, much larger than the about uranium one.
What about you know giving up twenty percent?
Yes.
On and on and on.
But think of the unmask the unmasking thing.
I mean, uranium one, what most Americans have nothing will will never have any experience of uranium in their life.
But if you look at the unmasking scandal, the unmasking scandal potentially is about the identity of hundreds of American citizens being illegally uncovered, being illegally exposed in a retroactive fashion because they were somehow politically connected to the Trump campaign to Donald Trump.
When you have the uh Obama's UN ambassador, uh Samantha Power, who's not a part of the intelligence community over her signature in one year, almost 200 America.
And then she says she didn't do it.
I mean, then who did it in her name?
Uh all right, we gotta run the last word, David Shawn.
You asked the question millions of Americans are asking.
When was his attention finally turned to the Clinton emails to come in to McCabe?
All of these scandals you've exposed.
The American people demand answers and they won't put up to this.
The problem is the media doesn't talk about those things, and most people just learn about what's in front of them.
The American people are gonna demand answers.
You've got to keep pushing.
All right, thank you both for being with us.
Uh Dr. Gorka, thank you.
D David Schoen, thank you.
800 941 Sean toll free telephone number you want to be a part of the program.
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Later on, we'll check in with Jay Seculow from the American Center for Law and Justice.
Dave Brad of Virginia's gonna check in and much more on the chaos and the confirmation hearings of Brett Kavanaugh and much more as we continue.
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to be recognized to ask a question before we proceed.
The committee received just last night, less than fifteen hours ago, a thousand pages of documents that we have not had an opportunity to review or read or analyze.
You were uh you're out of order.
I'll proceed.
We cannot possibly move forward, Mr. Chairman.
I extend a very warm welcome to Judge Cavanaugh to his wife, Ashley.
There's two daughters, Mr. Chairman.
I agree with my colleague Senator Harris.
Mr. Chairman, we received law clause.
And everyone else joining.
Exciting day for all of you here, and you're rightly proud, Chairman.
If we cannot be recognized, I move to adjourn.
The American people, I move to adjourn.
Mr. Chairman, I move to adjourn.
Mr. Chairman, we have been denied, we have been denied real access to the documents we need to advise.
Which turns this hearing into a charade and a mockery of our norms.
Well, Mr. Chairman, I therefore move to adjourn this hearing.
This is a mockery and it's actually a gust.
This is a tragedy of justice in Morocco, that cancels right in Cavaliers.
Adjourned the hearing.
We're going to be a hero!
We're going to be a hero!
We can't do it now!
Senator, I'm going to be a hero!
I'm going to be a hero!
We're not in the executive session.
Mr. Chairman, I ask for a roll call vote on my motion to adjourn.
Please go, no!
We vote not well, you know, you can hear what the Democrats, and it's so obvious what they did here.
If you if you missed this earlier today at the Kavanaugh hearings, you had the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman, Charles Grassley almost incapable of completing his opening sentence before committee Democrats interrupting him.
He'd roll Camilla Harris out of order, and then like clockwork, there's Richard Blumenthal.
He'd start in when he finally shut up.
Uh Grassley attempts to speak again.
Cory Booker, which would step up after Corey Booker, then it's Chris Coons and Tom Tillis, and on and on and on, which was uh, you know, while all this going on, they Had their left wing troops in the gallery constantly shouting, constantly interrupting.
And I'm really not sure why it took security forever to allow all these disruptions and all this screaming and all this shouting.
I was watching Oren Hatch try and give his opening remarks, and the screaming just never stopped.
And I think Grassley should have ordered the gallery to be cleared of anybody that was disruptive.
John Cornyn had it right when he compared what was going on to mob rule, but the icing on the cake, apparently this morning's entire charade, we now know was planned in advance.
Dick Durbin admitted Tuesday in the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the nomination of Brent Kavanaugh to the U.S. Supreme Court that he and other Democrats participated in a conference call.
They did it to disrupt the hearings.
And Durban was responding to a question by Senator Tom Tillis, who cited an NBC news tweet from earlier in the morning that reported that Senate Democrats had planned over the Labor Day weekend to use protests and interruptions.
MBC's Casey Hunt tweeted out Democrats plotted, coordinated the protest strategy over the holiday weekend, and all agreed to disrupt and protest the hearing.
They're acting like these are supposed to be senators.
This is about an important branch of our government, the judicial branch.
Apparently, Chucky Schumer led a phone call.
Committee members are now following through on the orders, and they're executing as they've been told to do so.
NBC News confirms the plot with its politics division, Democratic Senators, open Kavanaugh Kavanaugh confirmation hearing with a protest plan coordinated and agreed to over the weekend, according to people familiar with all the planning.
Senator Tillis asked, I just want to be clear that none of the members on the committee participated in that phone call or that strategy before the documents were released yesterday.
Are you suggesting that this allegation is false?
And Durban asked to respond, but merely deflected.
Of course it was planned.
This is, you know, 22 protesters arrested during the Kavanaugh hearing just in the morning session.
Kavanaugh's daughters were rushed out of the Senate hearing for their own safety.
I mean, it's just it's typical Democrat 101 belligerent, shrieking radical leftism and trying to adjourn the hearing.
But look, facts matter.
Truth matters in all of this, as I said in my opening remarks today, in my opening monologue, you know, Kavanaugh, the Ginsburg rule, the Ginsburg standard, no hints, no forecasts, no previews, she said in 1993, responding to a question about discrimination.
I did not see.
Apparently, that it did a full hour on RBG, Ruth Bader Ginsburg on fake news CNN as one of the all-time great justices.
Like, okay, I don't think so.
But I didn't have the time to watch it.
Um, Biden is even warning Democrats uh don't walk out of the hearings.
That's really bad.
You know, the guy has an amazing background, has amazing even bipartisan support from real people that really know him.
Um they've handed over more documents than what the last four Supreme Court nominees combined, and they're complaining about they don't have enough documents.
Well, how much do you want in terms of documents?
And then they're complaining, well, you didn't have time to read them.
Well, the Republicans had time to read them.
They've read all the documents.
And if you look, you know, get a little bit down deep into you know, the letter reports their releases over time, they produced nearly 300,000 pages of documents.
150,000 pages of documents for committee members confidential viewing, and not one member took the time to go over and review that which was put aside for them to go review.
Not one.
So you got 415 pages, executive branch records, it more than doubles the number provided for Elena Kagan during her confirmation process, is more than the last five nominees document totals combined.
And, you know, that's of course on top of the best evidence, which is Judge Kavanaugh's record as supreme jud superb judicial philosophy, his 12 years on the DC circuit and a lifetime of service.
They don't like it because they didn't get their radical left-wing judicial activist that Hillary would have appointed.
Well, that's a consequence as Obama used to remind everybody, every chance he got.
Elections have consequences.
Well, this one is one of them.
Uh, let's go to Sean is in San Angelo, Texas.
Sean, hi, how are you?
Welcome to the program.
Wow, what a wild morning, huh?
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
I agree.
I feel for you living there in New York.
My wife and I just uh escaped California.
Yeah, thank you.
I feel for me.
I feel for me too.
I and I'm the amount of money you paid in California, we pay in New York is insanity.
It is theft.
It is legalized stealing at this point.
But if you don't pay it, you're gonna be in trouble.
Pay your taxes.
You know, Camela Harris, uh she brought up the fact of bringing a million pages, and these people, they would sign a spending bill within 10 minutes of thousands of pages, and they'd never read anything.
Look, they had all of the time they needed.
All this is is it didn't matter who Trump appointed.
They were gonna do this.
It just didn't matter.
It's it's it's just truly sad what these people are doing.
Um it's just the the lunacy is getting worse and worse.
And to see our children, you know, uh listening to this, it's just it's so embarrassing for the country.
It truly is.
It's not in b listen, it reveals what the left wing in this country is.
There are no more moderate democrats.
There's no scoop Jackson's, there's no more Zell Miller.
Zell Miller recently passed away.
You know, former governor, senator from Georgia.
Got to know him really well in you know the later years in his life.
I had opposed him when he was governor.
And he's he literally did a lot of good in his life.
You know, Joe Lieberman, look what happened to Joe Lieberman.
It was a Democratic vice presidential candidate, and his party turned him out, and he had to run as an independent to win his last term in the state of Connecticut.
It's just unbelievable.
All right, back to our phones.
Thank you, Sean.
Appreciate it.
Ted is in Boston.
Ted, how are you?
What's going on, my friend?
Glad you called.
I'm good, Sean.
How are you?
Thank you for for taking my call.
Oh, I'm very uh thankful you called.
What's going on today?
Um, you know, aside from the political affiliations and you know, those on the left and those on the right, is there a little trepidation with a 2013 legal opinion from Kavanaugh?
Quote, if the president has a constitutional objection to a statutory mandate or prohibition, the president may decline to follow the law unless and until a final court order dictates otherwise.
Listen, the president has a lot of, you know, Article II powers that he hasn't even he hasn't even used at this particular point in time.
The fact that the many of these issues are so cut and dry, and the fact that you have people on television that say that they're legal analysts and they don't even understand Article II powers is a little bit frightening.
But I will tell you, you know, at the end of the day, the Constitution, Levin said this, and I agree with him.
The Constitution's on the president's side, and it's on the side of the American people.
To the extent that we push aside constitutionality, which is which was one of my biggest complaints about Obama.
Um, we do so to our own peril.
And that's why I keep harping on equal justice and equal application of our laws.
Because if we have one set of laws for one group of people, another set of laws for another group of people, the Constitutional Republic that is the greatest ever created by man stands in peril and in jeopardy of future existence because that then there is the definition and the beginnings of potential tyranny.
And it's a scary time.
We better get this right.
We better apply the rule of law.
The standards got to be applied equally, um, or else we're all gonna be in trouble.
And as we roll along, Sean Hannity's show, 8094.
What?
What do you what do you give me the link?
No, I was just, you know, I I saw the McCain coverage over the weekend, and it was, you know, it was really sad, you know, to watch that, you know, regardless of what your political beliefs are.
It's always sad when we lose someone who serves their country.
Listen, um, and it was in the tweet that I put out, it's interesting you bring this up, because uh I was watching this and I'm thinking all and by and I'm not talking about Cindy or Megan, I don't care.
It's a wife and a daughter.
I don't people can have the funerals.
He didn't want to invite the president or Sarah Palin.
I got whatever.
You're allowed to have your funeral whatever way you want.
I do know that the president sent Air Force II, accommodated rightly so the McCain family and all the things that they requested and that they wanted, which I thought was also the right thing to do.
Uh he served his country with honor and distinction.
He was a war hero, five years as a POW.
Um, and I said I never regretted supporting him in 2008.
And if you remember when he came back for the vote against health care, he gave that big long speech about, you know, we need to get along, etc.
and and turn off those guys on talk radio and cable.
They can go straight to hell.
It never bothered me.
And that was a side of McCain that, you know, I never got along with.
And uh, but uh I never regretted supporting him.
But I watched all of these people, and specifically Obama, former President Bush who was quiet all during the Obama years.
It seemed like an establishment versus outsider, you know, too much of an undertone of that for my liking.
And I just thought, you know, I remember what happened in South Carolina in 2000 in the primary in 2000.
I remember all the horrible things that Barack Obama's campaign said about John McCain.
And again, it's his funeral, he can do whatever he wants.
He apparently did it exactly the way he wanted.
But my memory's not that short.
And I just it was sad to me that you know there were certain grudges that seemed to be held, and then others were just pushed aside.
And um, but you know, whatever.
Uh, you know, I to me wasn't something I wanted to watch at that point.
I'm sorry.
I feel my prayers go out to Megan and and her mom Cindy, the lovely people.
I work with Megan and both radio and TV, and um she's entitled to say whatever she wants.
It didn't it didn't faze me or bother me in the least.
She's absolutely free to say what she wants.
I'm so surprised I didn't take a page out of your book and go into the woods, you know, with the uh the prayer by yourself, you know, we got where you'll have no cell phone access, and it's just you alone, nature, God.
All right, you're mischaracterizing what I have said.
If it is if it's determined that I have X number weeks, days, months to live, I don't want to be a burden to anybody.
So under those circumstances, if that ever happens to me in my life, I will call my friends and family together.
I'll probably do a live reading of my will just to make it fun, and I'm gonna say goodbye.
And then I'm going to go away.
I never said the woods.
I'm going to go away so that are you going?
Because you did mention the voice once or twice.
Okay.
Wherever I'm gonna go, nobody's gonna be able to find me except there'll be one person that is assigned to be notified if when I die.
Sweet baby James.
Probably.
Probably.
He's the only one that can keep a secret in my life.
And then from there, I I don't want to be a burden to other people.
Do you really want your children changing your diapers at the end of your life?
I don't absolutely payback is bliss.
No, payback is not bliss.
You could afford someone to do it for you.
Okay, but do you want them to even see that?
I don't want them to say I want them to remember me as I was in my living years, not in my dying days.
As a ninja.
Whatever.
You know, there's enough videotape of me in radio time, if you really care.
You can go back and listen to all the classics.
But that's just for me.
I don't want to be a burden to anybody.
That's my own personal choice.
Well, it I think it's selfless.
You think it's self-ish, which I find amazing.
All right, we got to take a break.
We'll come back.
800-941 Sean, Jay Seculo at the top of the hour on the Kavanaugh debacle that took place most of the day today, and much more straight ahead.
Coming up next, our final news roundup and information overload hour.
All right, news roundup, information overload hour.
Let's go back to the Kavanaugh hearings from earlier today, all the democratic disruption and chaos and insanity uh that took place.
Obviously, this was all orchestrated, as I pointed out earlier today.
Uh Democrats planning, plotting, scheming over Labor Day weekend to put on a show, and they put one on this morning, and here's what happened.
Judge Kavanaugh was a senior lawyer in the White House.
He advised the president on judicial nominations, provided legal advice on separation of powers issues, and handled litigation matters.
As the as the Supreme Court has put it, quote, unless the president can give his advisors some assurance of confidentiality, a president could not expect to receive the full and frank submissions of facts and opinions upon what's the effective discharge of his duties depends.
End of quote.
The issues Judge Kavanaugh worked on are exactly the sort of issues that require, according to the Supreme Court some assurance of confidentiality.
We in the Senate and everyone else in America expect exactly the same sort of confidentiality.
Most senators would not agree to turn over their staff's communication to anyone.
And of course, in the morning session alone, there was what, twenty-two people that were arrested during the hearing.
Again, all invited guests that hated in every way, shape, manner, and form uh Judge Kavanaugh, and I think it was as much about Donald Trump, and so it kicks off with this belligerent shrieking hecklers, and here's what they said.
This is a mockery and it's not the gun.
This is a tragedy of justice, you will not go back.
Cancel, right?
Have not.
Adjourn.
Adjourn.
We're not in the executive society.
Mr. Chairman, I ask for a roll call vote on my motion to adjourn.
Please go south!
You know, Democrats can't just stop revealing who they really are as this goes if it became chaos chaotic.
Anyway, joining us now, he is the chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.
Uh he's also counsel to the president, although he's not here in that capacity today, uh Jay Seculow.
How many times have you argued now in your life before the Supreme Court of the ACLJ?
Uh we've had about twenty cases there.
I've argued twelve of them.
So I'm uh pretty a lot of a lot of time there.
Yep.
And so when you argue before a Supreme Court, I think it's one of the more interesting proceedings because you put everything down in writing and they get to read both arguments, briefs, etc.
And then if they have questions, you might get one word out of your mouth and they start grilling you.
I think the most I've ever gone was 35 seconds.
You've gone before I got stopped.
Yeah.
Before I got stopped with a question.
So the way it looked, I mean, I've known Brett Cavanaugh a long time.
I knew him back in the days in the Bush administration, knew him in private practice.
We worked on a uh religious liberty case together, and uh he's a smart guy.
And uh I will tell you that uh the president is nominated a well-qualified nominee, the Supreme Court, you're right, it's probably the least understood branch, because it's not the televised branch of government, but uh plays a pivotally important role in our constitutional republic, and I think the president's made a great nomination.
Well, let's talk a little bit about his background.
Well, first let's talk about the show.
Obviously, there was a call this weekend.
Uh it was revealed, MBC News, Chuck Schumer leading the way, and that all of this was a a planned operation from the start of the day.
What is your take?
Well, look, do we know that?
I mean, there was emails that were circulating this weekend that talked about.
In fact, our head of government affairs, Sean was out in the in the hallway calling into our broadcast and said that he walked by a protester who was talking to another protester and said, Are you getting arrested today?
And the and the guy said, No, I'm getting arrested tomorrow.
Yeah.
Tomorrow's my day.
Why didn't Charles Grassley get control of the room faster?
In my opinion, it was way too slow.
He was far too lenient.
Yeah, and I think he was going beyond what was necessary, but in in his view, he was trying to not, you know, circumscribe anybody's uh ability to be there, but they're not gonna let this continue in this pattern.
You can't.
Uh so they're televised.
It's not like people can't see it, but the the disruption is not, as Dick Durbin said, the noise of our democracy.
That's the that's the noise of people engaging in a protest in a venue that's not appropriate for a protest.
You could do it outside, you can do in public sidewalks, but you're supposed to be at the quorum inside of these facilities.
Uh, you violate the rules, you pay the consequences.
But the idea that the noise of our democracy, the noise of democracy is what you hear the chanting outside the Supreme Court.
That's the noise of our democracy.
The the noise of the democracy, the chanting outside the Supreme Court doesn't happen inside the Supreme Court.
If it does, the person's usually removed and arrested.
Well, I mean, look, this is also part of a distraction, a general distraction.
Well, I agree with all of that.
I what I think this really comes down to, it's uh it is a philosophical divide in the country.
You know, either you believe in coequal branches of government and separation of powers or you don't.
And I have always felt and I think the left is obviously want they want to confirm people that share their political values that are willing to legislate from the bench that are will that are want to use the judicial branch of government to get done to America that which could never happen at a ballot box or through legislation.
So they do it through judicial fiat.
And that's the type of judge that they want.
And somebody like Brick Kavanaugh respects the Constitution and the rule of law.
They don't like that judicial philosophy because it doesn't advance their activism.
It's really that simple to me.
Well look, I mean if you want to know anything about Brett Cavanaugh, it's not so difficult.
Read his three hundred opinions.
He's been on the bench for over a decade.
Well I mean thirteen years on the c on the second most important court in the United States, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia.
So if you want to know what Jeff uh what what his judicial philosophy is, which is all they're supposed to be discussing, he has all the qualification and no one can argue that he's not well qualified.
I mean the ABA said it because because it's true.
He's probably one of the most qualified we've ever had if not the most.
It seems to me that unless something spectacular happens that there's no way that he is going to not be confirmed to the Supreme Court.
What did you think of the appointment by the Arizona governor today of John Kyle to fill in in the end of the end that was really I think there was a smart move Senator Kyle has a wealth of experience.
I have had the pro privilege and pleasure of working with him for decades.
Look he served on the Judiciary Committee.
He's going to be great.
I think it was a great move and that's a great call to service and I appreciate uh John Kyle uh willing to interrupt his life to represent not only the people of uh the great state of Arizona but also to assist everyone in the United States Senate is called service again and he rose to the occasion as I knew he would.
Let's talk about the Ginsburg rule.
No hints, no forecast, no previews she said in response except if you're the Washington Post who said today they should change all that.
You know the Washington Post said today Sean no hints, no previews, no decisions on where it might go but now they said that's not any good anymore.
We need to know exactly how he's going to rule and specifically they want him to know how he's going to rule on the issue of executive privilege, presidential authority, Article two.
That they want him to say the Ginsburg rule applies to everybody except Brett reference my client.
But the reality is just if he does have to rule on any such issue just because he was appointed by the president the president doesn't ask somebody how they're going to specifically rule nobody knows.
Of course not of course not and look I mean that doesn't disqualify him.
No that was the case every nominee would be subject to every judge would be such justice be subject to disqualification based on nomination.
That's not the way it works in the Supreme Court of the United States not the way it should work.
He's going to review the law, review the briefs, listen to the arguments and make a decision.
All right so let me ask you one question outside in your other role as as White House counsel.
Not White House counsel.
Counsel to the president I'm sorry forty fifth president.
All right I apologize White House counsel.
Counsel to Sean Hannity That's a good point.
But I want to just ask how do you see this all coming to an end?
It's a very broad question.
I I I didn't invite you on to talk about it, but um you haven't been doing a lot of media on it.
How does this all end and when do you think it ends?
Well look I don't give dates because uh I'm never given dates.
I've had some colleagues that have given dates.
I don't like giving dates so I'm not going to I'm not going to give a date.
How do I think it ends I think it ends with a report uh I think that uh there's no collusion there is no I mean the this theory of obstruction by tweet I've said before I think is is absurd.
So at the end of the day I think there'll be a report that goes to the deputy attorney general of the United States then it would be there'll be limited to on what he can do with it based on some executive privilege issues of documents that they've had within the executive branch that don't go to the other branches.
And I think then it's you know that I think that's it.
I mean now when does this happen?
You know I like it to happen sooner rather than later but I I you know you could say that without giving it I'm not going to give a date but I I will tell you this that there's ongoing professional dialogue between our offices and the special counsels.
There have been throughout the process there's kind of fits and starts and stip you know you hit bumps in the road but there's ongoing dialogue and and and we'll see what kind of accommodations can be made to to wrap it up.
Do you think the issues that I've been covering in terms of the FBI and the DOJ and all the information that we have discovered about people's political practices and and the Pfizer court abuse, etc, etc Do you think that comes into uh uh uh focus by the country as well?
Don't you think it has to be cost I mean look the irregularities in this inquiry from the outset are are breathtaking.
I mean you could start with the dossier and Chris Steele, and then you got Bruce Orr, who's now you know, testified before the committee, and his wife worked for Fusion GPS who worked with Chris Steele to put together the fake dossier that was used at the basis of then getting a FISA warrant, which was then used to, you know, surveil Americans, which then you had the report that was used to do that, was being then to disseminate among the FBI, including to Peter Strock and Lisa Page and there you have their whole dialogue back and forth.
So the irregularities here, you know, the insurance policies, the Andy McCabe story, that James Comey leaking uh his uh information to the uh friend of his so that uh special counsel would be reported, and lo and behold a special counsel was apported.
All are pointed, all of that points to uh regular uh irregularities in this inquiry.
Now, having also said that, let me say something I think that's also relevant here, and that is if you look at the nature and scope of what has taken place, I think it's that part is unprecedented.
We've never had uh a situation to this extent where the investigators need to be investigated.
Uh and and then and some of them are.
I mean, the fact of the matter is we know that the inspector general's office, uh the office of professional responsibility within the Justice Department are looking at those issues.
But how can you not?
You can't ignore it.
I mean, so th this this idea and you anybody can hold whatever political positions or uh advocate any position they want, but that doesn't mean you get to be the the the decision maker on uh on ask an unrelated question investigation.
Yeah.
What does it take to ever hear from the Pfizer court judges themselves?
We nobody's ever heard from them.
You don't.
I mean that's the idea of the Pfizer foreign intelligence surveillance court uh is not designed to engage the public.
They're in gun engaging in counterintelligence matters as the judicial review branch, uh, but they don't j but I'm sure those judges are not happy about what's happened here.
Would it would Congress have the authority, checks and balances, coequal branches to bring them in and ask them?
Yep.
Yeah, they I mean they are not uh immune from uh congressional oversight, except they're an independent branch, so you have to respect separation of powers.
Uh it's the control the purse is what the Congress really controls.
Uh not so much their they can't control their opinions.
But I think look, all the issues that you've been raising over the last year and a half are significant, they're real.
Uh there's concern.
I mean, I know there's a a move for declassification of some uh documents that members of Congress want to to get some more specificity uh on some of these uh in FISA issues.
I think all look the unmasking, I think all this is real.
I think the the problem here is we we got a you got a political uh culture right now that there's no middle ground on anything.
Everything is, you know, to the extremes.
And I think when you have this kind of situation, as we do now, that what we have to do as the lawyers for the president is analyze the law and the facts and point out those issues which we think warrant review, like the irregularities, and and make sure that those are also at the forefront of this as as this matter moves forward.
I take a quick break here.
We'll come back.
Uh Jay Sekolo, Chief Counsel, American Center for Law and Justice, uh, about the Kavanaugh hearings as we continue.
We continue more with Jay Sekulow.
He is the Chief Counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice, also counsel to the president.
Let me go back to the Supreme Court.
Who are the toughest Supreme Court justices you argued in front of them?
Why?
Well, you know, interestingly, Justice said, I think ruled with me every time, but he always asked very deep and penetrating questions, and that was uh Justice Scalia.
Uh he asked really tough questions no matter what side you were on.
And uh that was just the nature of how he did it.
And I'll tell you who else was tough, uh, which was his closest friend on the court, Justice Ginsburg.
Uh and they were very close uh personal friends, and um but I had uh here before Justice Ginsburg for two decades, and she could ask penetrating questions.
The but there's always a sense that when, you know, there are justices also that would ask uh really nice questions but were really tough.
John Paul Stevens was one of the nicest guys you ever met.
But boy, he could give I was a bit of a boxer, you know, in school, and he could uh he could give you a left hook.
If he ever started a question with these with this word, supposing, that's what he would say.
Supp Mr. Seculo, supposing such and such and such whenever he did that, look out.
Yeah.
That left hook was out there, you better have your hands up.
You know, the funny thing is, and and somebody that I've really come to know and admire on the court and and has really been incredible as a as a Supreme Court justice, Thomas, he rarely talks during any of these hearings.
He's he listens.
Uh he I may have had a c a couple of cases where he's asked a question or two.
He's not big on asking questions.
There have been other justices in our history that have been the same.
Uh but I will tell you this that uh he is probably one of the I think he's brilliant.
Absolutely brilliant.
Yeah.
And the and writer, brilliant an analysis.
It's amazing.
Judge, great lawyer.
All right, Jay Seculo, American Center for Law and Justice and uh counsel to the president.
Thanks for being with us.
We appreciate it.
And uh we'll see you on TV tonight.
John all set against the backdrop of these midterms, just a several weeks away right now.
And our poll shows Democrats go into these midterms with a huge advantage.
Now, George, it's just one poll, but if these numbers hold, this is a disaster for Republicans.
Look at this.
A 14-point advantage in terms of who people say they will vote for in their congressional district, 14 point advantage for the Democrats, but also more troublesome for Republicans.
Democrats are more enthusiastic, say they are more likely to vote, and independent voters are fleeing Republicans in droves.
And just to put that number in context, when Republicans won dozens of House seats in 2010, Democrats in 2006, their advantages were far lower than this.
They're in every one of those swing elections, last swing elections, the advantage was less for the party that won.
All right, uh 25 now till the top of the hour.
Glad you are with us.
Yeah, George Stephanopoulos would love for that blue wave to be exactly the way he wants it.
It's sixty-three days till the all-important midterm elections, and you know, lo and behold, I actually agree for a minute with Joe Biden.
What's at stake for the Democrats?
Everything.
What's at stake for the Republicans?
Everything.
There's a lot at stake here.
Because as I've been telling you, this midterm election, it's about really very simple but profound things.
The Democrats, they want to impeach the president.
They're just trying to be quiet about it.
But that they're absolutely giddy at the thought that they can impeach the president.
Second thing is they want their crumbs back.
They've referred to the tax cuts as crumbs.
Interestingly, they want the crumbs back.
They can't leave the crumbs on the table for the mere mortals, the citizenry that we are.
They think they're more important.
They want open borders, they want to eliminate ice, they want to keep Obamacare.
And I guarantee you it'll be endless investigations, all Trump all the time leading into 2020.
Nothing is on an agenda that will benefit the American people.
Nothing.
I mean, you have a a radical Florida Democrat thanks pro-impeachment billionaires for funding his gubernatorial run.
The guy that is running Mayor uh Andrew Gillam of Tallahassee.
You know, he had a tough time raising any money from within the state.
But don't worry, he actually was on Meet the Press, and he thanked people like left-wing billionaires like George Soros and Tom Steyer for their money.
And he's deeply appreciative of uh their money.
Well is what's more important here, the people of Florida or billionaires that have radical left-wing views.
It's unbelievable.
Now there was a story on Breitbart over the weekend that apparently Nancy Pelosi was out at a big suare in the Hamptons on Long Island, and uh she's already plotting exactly what she intends to do.
Uh should the House majority swing to the Democrats in November instead of focusing on the needs of the American people.
She was spotted with Chuck uh Schumer at a glorious gathering, Labor Day weekend, East Hampton, hosted by the Discovery CEO.
And per playbook and Politico's playbook email, Pelosi and Schumer were hardly the only leftist stars there.
Let's see, Oprah Winfrey was there, Katie Couric was there, George Stephanopoulos was there, Savannah Guthrie was there, Joy Behar were there.
Amazing.
I live in Long Island and I never got an invite.
I'm shocked.
Anyway, one of the uh people that we really want to see re-elected who's done an amazing job is Dave Bratt of Virginia.
And of course, he's being targeted because they can't stand anybody within the freedom caucus, the people that actually get things done and keep their promises to the American people.
How are you, sir?
Yay, Sean.
Great setup.
You hit it out of the park.
And you're right.
I'm getting hit in the Washington Post, New York Times last Friday.
Good morning, America is down with my opponent right now.
And uh, as people zoom in, uh they're gonna see what you just said, right?
We got four point seven percent economic growth coming up next quarter, according to the Atlanta Fed.
Uh my opponent was pushing a 32 trillion dollar end Medicare as you know it program, along with Senator Elizabeth Warren and Bernie.
Until she found out it cost 32 trillion.
And my local paper said in order to pay for that, you'd have to double the personal rates and double the corporate rate.
Plus she wants open borders in favor of Sanctuary City.
And so the folks are paying attention, and this is fairly representative of all the Democrats across the country, along with everything you just said up.
And so now people are going to focus and we gotta work hard.
There's no doubt about it.
There is still a blue wave out there, but we can beat it uh with just good common sense policy.
Look, there's sixty-three days.
I I think one of the challenges the president has, and I think that the electorate do it doesn't tristorically pay a lot of attention to midterm elections.
And I think the Democrats, they've done a pretty good job of of holding back some of their representatives that really only want to run on impeachment.
But they they don't have an agenda short of what I said about eliminating ice, open borders, keeping Obamacare, getting their crumbs back, but impeaching the president is at the top of the list.
Uh what do you think the odds are that that would be their real agenda?
No, I think it would be their agenda, and and my uh opponent Spamberger was uh CIA, et cetera, and is just running on that, but won't list any agenda item.
She's promised not to vote for Pelosi.
Uh, but I asked the question of of them.
I said, Is that because Pelosi's too conservative?
Right?
So that's what people are missing.
Every other person they want for speaker is further to the left than Nancy Pelosi, and the head of financial services will be Maxine Waters.
And that's just one committee.
And you can go down all the committee chair, men and women, and see what is in store for our economy.
If they ever got a hold of power, uh the economic growth is gone, the jobs are gone, the low unemployment rates for African Americans and Hispanics gone, all the progress gone.
And so we gotta keep it.
We we everybody out there listening.
Make sure you dig in and help every one of your candidates out.
You know, I guess and the other problem is look, short of the freedom con uh caucus.
I'm not exactly that enthusiastic about a lot of these Republicans.
I think a lot of them have been weak and ineffective and fairly lacking in a spine and courage and not willing to keep their promises.
We learned that during the health care debacle.
I mean, seven and a half years they promised to repeal and replace, then we find out that a number of them never had any intention to do that because it was too tough politically.
But you're right.
We've got what?
14 states with record low unemployment.
We've got an 18-year high of consumer confidence, 51 year low in youth unemployment, record low unemployment for women, African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, and we see four million jobs have been created in the U.S., two million fewer people on food stamps in the U.S., and we have you know, a million fewer people in poverty.
Now that's pretty good for less than two years on the job.
I don't know why people would want to go back.
Yeah, well, right, and the part of the problem is you're one of the few people that lays out that positive case and record.
The rest of the mainstream media No, I actually think I'm like the only one, but who's counting?
I think I I know, I know.
I watch it, believe me.
And thank God uh we got a few people that put out the truth.
You and uh a few others, but the mainstream media were fighting against their narrative that you know this was the growth was gonna be one time, it won't last.
All the benefits were gonna go to stock buybacks.
That's not true.
Capital investment, right?
I did a PhD in economics.
Investment in capital is the main driver of economic growth, and that's going through the roof, way higher than any stock buybacks.
All the evidence is very clear on that.
And then two weeks ago, my opponent said, Well, that huge growth isn't a kitchen table issue.
Oh, really?
What about when a hundred million Walmart shoppers have record retail sales?
I'd call Walmart shoppers kitchen table.
Right?
So the good news is just all of them.
No, no, no, you're forgetting.
Everybody that goes to Walmart, we are smelly Walmart voters.
We cling to our god guns, Bibles, and religion, and we're irredeemable deplorables.
It's amazing what you learn about these elites and what they think about real Americans every day that work hard, play by the rules, pay their taxes, obey the laws, and make this country a better place every day.
Uh we see the uh elitism on display often.
What did you think of the uh Kavanaugh hearings today?
Well, I'm on my way back up to the swamp today, so I've been missing it.
I've been hearing a little clips here and there, but uh, he's just phenomenally qualified, uh rational, you know, I mean all the right degrees, uh past Democrat Supreme Court nominees hired him.
I mean, I don't know how you get a better resume than that uh for the for the slot.
So it's just pure politics, unfortunately.
Well, I'm gonna be lucky and fortunate enough.
We're gonna do a town hall together, and I don't know if it's invitation only or what, but uh I know that I've agreed to do a town hall with you on the issues of the day on September the twenty-fourth, And uh, you know, I love I've I've done a few of these.
I was down doing some in Florida with Ron DeSantis and our friend Matt Gates, who's also a part of the Freedom Caucus.
And uh, you know, there's so many issues that are facing the American people this time.
I I can't wait to see it.
It's gonna be in twenty days from now.
Yeah, well, I'm excited for it, and thank you for doing it.
That's the one way we have to overshoot and go directly to the people.
Some of us don't have, you know, forty million tweets like you do and followers.
And so this is a good thing.
I don't have quite 40 million, but I mean we do have a pretty good social media presence.
That's right.
You know, it's a little less than it used to be, because I took Twitter off my phone so I don't tweet out at three in the morning.
Um, because I just found myself it became another full-time job.
I enjoyed it for a while, and then it just becomes a chore.
Right, no, I know.
And that's what it's we we just need uh folks that can spread the word.
I our local papers won't cover any of the good news.
They won't cover any of the bills I had.
My local paper when I had a bill that reunited parents and kids, they ignored my bill and instead wrote a piece how I'm separating, right?
Uh parents and kids.
It's uh it's just hard to get a a break from your local papers uh who just lean left in their coverage, and so we got to get the truth out somehow.
So thanks for helping me do it.
All right, I look forward to seeing you.
Thanks so much for being with us.
We'll see Dave Brett on the uh 24th.
We're doing a town hall together.
And you know, we do this occasionally with people that we like and we talk about the issues of the day.
There's a lot leading up to this midterm election.
We are sixty-three days away.
It's the most important midterm in our life.
People tend to stay home for midterms, but you need to know what's at stake.
And there's a lot writing on all of this.
All right, let's get to our busy uh telephones.
We shall say hi to Jim, is in Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia.
How are you, sir?
Welcome to the program.
Um I'm doing very well.
Thank you.
Uh just wanted to mention thank you for all the revealing of all the many problems that are uh that are being unaddressed through legal terms and uh investigations that should be.
But I wanted to bring up the topic about the the four different visa judges that uh have been discussed, but I've never heard anyone on any of the networks or even any of your guests talk about the possibility that these judges could be part of the deep state, or they could be liberal just like the what the ninth ninth district judges.
So therefore, why would they be why would those judges be concerned about talking about the fact that the city is.
You you gotta remember the judges normally are you know, especially FISA judges, you know, this is supposed to be a secret court.
For them to reveal how they feel, they're gonna have to be at some point subpoenaed.
At some point, they're gonna be asked directly whether or not they feel that they were misled and a fraud was committed on their court.
Now, the one thing that I know about judges in the course of my life, not that I've spent a lot of time thankfully before them, but uh I know enough about the law, and I've enough friends that are lawyers, have interviewed enough judges and lawyers over the years to know that if you go into a courtroom, you better say, yes, your honor, no, your honor, yes, sir, yes, ma'am, no, sir, no, ma'am.
And you better respect the court because if you don't, it's not gonna end well for you.
The other thing that I've kind of learned, it's like paying your taxes.
You better pay your taxes.
You don't pay your taxes.
You think you're gonna get away with it, you're gonna get caught.
And it could be, you know, Paul Manafort bad for you.
Don't lie on bank loan applications.
Another bit of advice.
We haven't learned anything about Russia or collusion, but that's what I learned.
But the same with judges.
Judges don't like being lied to.
And I've got to imagine these judges are pretty pissed off, and that at some point how they feel is going to be released.
That's what I'm guessing.
What do you think?
And I and I hope so I hope that I hope it's all revealed.
My concern is is that they could be just as much a part of the problem as some of the other judges that are across the country that are doing everything everything they can to uh to fight against uh every action that Trump has tried to do.
Listen, and this is why I think the election's important.
We better stay the course because if we don't stay the course, then we're absolutely positively gonna get the results we deserve.
Look, elections have consequences.
Donald Trump winning.
Well, if Hillary had won this uh Supreme Court hearing today would be all about whoever she chose to be on the court.
And it wouldn't be Brett Kavanaugh.
Well, the same thing as it relates to Donald Trump.
I think this is so much more about him than it is about the people that are representatives to Congress.
And some of the I know some people like I'm not going out for this Congressman or woman.
They're weak, they're pathetic.
And well the answer is then you're going to get the Democrat that's going to impeach that wants to eliminate ice keep Obamacare, get their crumbs back.
That's what you're going to get.
And it's very predictable.
We've not been wrong on politics so far as it relates to any of what the Democrats like to do when they're in power.
Anyway, Jim, good call.
Appreciate it.
Thank you for being with us.
Let's go to uh Nancy is in Clearwater, Florida, Tampa, WFLA.
How are you?
Good, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
Happy.
I hope you had a great weekend.
I'm traveling back from Tampa to my new home in Atlanta.
So I'm going to report but I I really have an important question for you and maybe you and Sarah Carter can look into this.
I would love for Trump to, and I know he listens to this show, for him to decide to um remove all the uh the cloiture on the sexual harassment suits that were filed against congressmen.
I'd like an answer to that too.
I think one of the reasons I this is important because over what $14 million have been paid out in settlements.
Now sometimes a settlement doesn't mean a person's guilty but you settle because you make a case go away for whatever reason it's convenient.
It's cheaper I mean these things happen pretty much sadly every day.
Well that that that publicity came out right as Fred Sessions decided to recuse himself and I got a funny feeling he's going to be swept up in this.
Well I will tell you this if these congressmen if they want to come to a settlement with people that are making allegations against them even if they know it's wrong and it is wrong.
They can't be using taxpayer money to pay their settlements.
It's got to come out of their own pocket.
And those people that did use taxpayers money, well the taxpayers have a right to know.
And whoever did needs to we need to know who they are.
I totally agree with you.
Anyway have a safe trip you're going to love Atlanta my uh former hometown for a number of years I love the city of Atlanta um and it's a great town great people.
All right that's going to wrap things up for today the chaotic plan chaos at the Kavanaugh hearings we'll get to that the biggest development yet in the Bruce Orr and deep state saga.
Now it's connected to the Muller team we've got full coverage Jay Seculo Alan Dershowitz Andy McCarthy Greg Jarrett Dan Bongino Sebastian Gorka and Jason Chaffetz.
It's all coming up on Hannity tonight nine Eastern we'll see you back here tomorrow.
