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So, it is now a busy, breaking news day.
The Trump administration, the White House, has revoked the former CIA director John Brennan's security clearance for all the reasons we have been telling you over a long period of time and more.
We have a huge blockbuster bombshell report that Sarah Carter is going to give us in detail.
I'll give you a hint in just a minute.
The Manafort trial now is closing arguments underway.
The prosecution went in the morning, and now the defense is up doing their best.
They didn't remember, they didn't call any witnesses in this case.
They began their closing arguments.
And earlier today, the prosecutor, Greg Andres, speaking for Mueller's team, went an hour and 40 minutes.
They'll get a 17-minute rebuttal after the defense has this.
It could be sent to the jury as early as today.
I would not be surprised if we had a verdict tomorrow.
I don't know how quickly it's going to go.
We just don't know.
Now, we'll watch that case very closely.
We have some election news updates.
I'm just telling everybody, I'm concerned what's going to happen 83 days from now.
And I think all of you need to be as well.
Everything that I keep warning you that is at stake here is real.
The consequences are real.
And well, I get it.
People are on summer vacation.
Schedules are altered.
Kids now just begin in the process of getting ready to go back to school.
Everybody's kind of busy, not focused.
Historically, it's after Labor Day when all of this begins to come into the forefront, but it's not a long period of time.
And I'm looking at the Cook report today, and there are a lot of house races that are going to be close, not unlike the Ohio 12th that we watched a week ago, and the results coming in from there.
By the way, Chris Kolbach is one in Kansas.
He defeated a sitting Republican governor to get the nomination in that position, which I think I am just a big fan of his and somebody that I think, and I don't have strong opinions about who his opponent was in that particular race, the sitting Republican governor, but I do think that Chris would make a great governor and is hated by the left, which pretty much tells you everything that you need to know about why he's probably the right guy.
Now, we do know a lot of things about John Brennan that has now come to light.
He has become one of the foremost Trump critics.
We now know that he was involved in, responsible for, spreading what he never verified, misinformation as CIA director, the dirty Russian dossier to Harry Reid and others, and basically anyone who get their hands on it.
And anyway, so as a professional courtesy, Sarah Sanders said during our press conference, neither of these justifications supports Brennan's continued access to classified information, and the White House ended up revoking it.
You know, to be honest, how he kept it this long is mind-numbing to me.
You know, the FBI relied repeatedly on uncorroborated, corroborated, unverified information they knew was funded by and obtained by Secretary Clinton's presidential campaign, and all used then to put a fraud on the FISA court to get an associate of the Trump campaign under a FISA warrant, which gave them access to all of the emails going back in perpetuity.
And they did it by giving what turned out to be debunked Russian lies, false information.
And then that misinformation, those Russian lies were used to propagandize and purposefully misform the American people.
That means they were hoping to use that information to get people, A, not to vote for Donald Trump, but also to vote for Hillary Clinton.
And what's so outrageous about it is, had the rule of law been applied equally as it relates to equal application of the laws, equal justice under the law, Hillary would have been indicted.
But we had high-ranking officials protect her there.
I've never seen a bigger case for obstruction in my life.
But there's a concerted effort to conceal information from the FISA court in order to get a warrant to spy on a member of a rival political campaign.
And that effort was employed by the top people at the FBI.
If you look at the people that signed the FISA warrant, Sally Yates, James Comey.
It goes all throughout.
All these people have been active and involved in this.
Rod Rosenstein.
Yeah, the guy that appointed Robert Mueller.
Anyway, this memorandum that they had here, they all signed off on it that this was verified.
They told the court that they did their own research into this.
You know, and now we know, on top of all of it, there's in the last week and a half, we've had more breaking news about just how active and involved Bruce Orr has been in all of this.
What, demoted twice?
And how Bruce Orr was in constant contact both before the election and after the election, both before being fired and after being fired with Christopher Steele.
Orr still has a job.
Why does he have a job?
Now, I'll give you a little preview of Sarah's story, and she's going to join us later today and break it right here on this program.
But in March of 2017, March 18th, to be exact, this is only two days before the FBI director at the time, James Comey, testified to Congress that the Bureau had an open counterintelligence investigation into President Trump's campaign.
And former British spy Christopher Steele then sent an urgent message to the DOJ official, fourth-ranking guy at the DOJ, Bruce Orr.
And we actually, Sarah was able to obtain for the first time this email.
And it basically says, hey, just wondering if you had any news.
Obviously, we're a bit apprehensive given the scheduled appearance at Congress on Monday.
Yeah, two days before Comey.
And here's where the smoking gun comes in.
Hoping that important firewalls will hold.
Well, what are the firewalls?
Meaning hoping that the systems they put in place not to be exposed, that everybody holds the line in what was a corrupt lie and an attempt to influence a presidential election doesn't get revealed.
We learned just last week that the extent of contact between Christopher Steele and Bruce Orr between emails and texting in actual meetings is over, what, 70 contacts between these two.
Again, before and after the election, before and after firings.
And Nellie Orr is the one that's working at Fusion GPS.
What else did we learn?
Well, we learned that Fusion GPS had another client, a Russian, the same Russian that met with, you know, at the infamous meeting at Trump Tower.
And that both before and after that meeting, well, apparently that Russian that was a client of Fusion GPS met with Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS or a representative of Fusion GPS before and after.
Well, that's now beginning to sound like a setup to me.
Now, Orr says, I don't have any news, but I believe my earlier information is accurate, meaning that the firewalls are going to hold.
What are the firewalls?
We're going to stop him.
You know, we have an insurance policy.
Now, I don't know how you interpret firewalls, but we know that everybody involved here hated Donald Trump and was polling for Hillary Clinton.
And we also know that this dirty dossier was used both before the election and after the election, both to misinform the American people on purpose, John Brennan even being a part of it, to lie to the American people, to convince the American people that, oh, man, Donald Trump had two hookers in a bed and is compromised when he was in Moscow, however many years ago, and the hookers were urinating in the bed.
It's a total lie.
And we know it's a lie because Christopher Steele, the Trump hater that he is, well, he was put under oath in Great Britain in a separate case, was asked about the dirty dossier, and he said, no, no, that's only raw intelligence.
I haven't corroborated any of that.
It may be 50-50.
It's true.
I don't know.
Well, that's not how it was leaked to the American media that desperately wanted Hillary to win and went with the false allegations again and again.
How is a CIA director ever involved in this?
Why is the fourth-ranking person at the DOJ involved in this?
And why are they talking about and so nervous about, and now we have earlier text messages, Christopher Steele seems to be a little bit of a nervous Nelly.
He was scared to death when the Senate Intel Committee was looking into him.
He was concerned what the media was reporting about him.
And now we discover, well, he's also concerned, as in this particular case, about James Comey's testimony here.
You know, what did Steele mean by important firewalls?
What is a firewall before Comey's testimony?
You know, we're a bit apprehensive given the scheduled appearance in Congress on Monday.
So he's talking clearly about Comey's appearance before Monday.
Okay, two days later.
What are the firewalls that are supposed to hold here?
What did Orr mean when by earlier information, when he said the government source who noted the firewall statement seemed to raise similar questions posed by lawmakers when now fired Agent FBI, what do they mean by the insurance policy?
What do they mean we'll stop him?
You know, everyone that's saying this is outrageous.
Chuck Todd, he's clueless.
This is an outrage that this man got fired and is being attacked by the president.
Are you out of your mind?
Do you even take the time to read basic fundamental information before you go on television or Twitter and say the dumb things you say?
You know, Sarah Carter has been all over this.
This report, this particular exchange to me, is a game changer.
What's the firewall?
You know, just like, what's the insurance policy?
Just like, we'll stop him.
You know, who are all these people that think that they know better than you, the American people?
Who are these people that peddled this false information that was put together, bought and paid for by Hillary, the DNC, with funneled money through a law firm into Fusion GPS's hands?
Why is Fusion GPS?
Why are their representatives meeting both before and after the infamous Trump Tower meeting with the Russian who we now find out is also a client of Fusion GPS?
Why did they use a foreign national?
Why didn't the FBI and the DOJ do their job and verify the information in that phony dossier before they took that information and presented it as gospel truth before four FISA court judges?
Why didn't they specifically say when they knew that Hillary's campaign paid for it?
Why did they withhold that information from the court?
Who's going to be held responsible for the exoneration of Hillary being written months before the investigation or the interview?
And what does Peter Strzok, his involvement in all of this mean to Robert Mueller?
I know the trial of the century in many people's minds is the Paul Manafort case.
It is not the trial of the century.
It's an old tax case that has nothing to do with the campaign, the election.
Trump, nothing.
Russia, nothing.
Okay, everyone's dying to get the verdict in this case.
You know, the odds are not good for Paul Manafort if you look at federal cases.
Look, Paul Manafort obviously didn't have anything to sing about, or else I guess he would have, you know, gotten a free pass like his former partner did, who was facing 100 years in jail, an admitted liar, embezzler, and criminal.
But that's their lead, you know, star witness.
We'll get to all of this.
800-941, Sean, you want to be a part of the program?
To me, the question is, why did it even take so long, the White House revoking the security clearance of John Brennan, former director of the CIA, former communist.
And they are rightly mulling the idea of pulling him from several other former intelligence chiefs and officials.
And Sarah Sanders read the statement earlier today at the press conference saying and announcing the president has decided to revoke Brennan's security clearance, citing erratic behavior and lying.
Now, Bennon is, Brennan has been a huge, major, massive lying propagandist and anti-Trump conspiracy theorist.
And Sanders said the president is also more broadly reviewing access to classified information by government officials and others who are now under specific review.
James Clapper.
Well, he's a liar and leaker, too.
Jim Comey, why would he have access still?
And that's the former FBI director the president fired.
Michael Hayden, another long TV.
These people now have TV careers.
Remember the CIA's own standard operating.
If you want to keep your clearance, you must act in a professional way as if you're still a current employee of the CIA.
Everyone seems to forget that is what the standard is.
And the same would go for everybody involved here.
They're also looking rightly at Sally Yates.
Yeah, she signed one of the FISA warrants and she was fired.
And Susan Rice and Andrew McCabe and Peter Strzzok and Lisa Page and Bruce Orr.
All these people that are at the heart of this entire effort, literally to help influence and steal a presidential election.
All these people were involved in literally justifying an unverified propaganda document and in many cases presenting it to the FISA court judges, committing a fraud upon the court to get a warrant to spy on the Trump campaign associate.
Many others were just taking the raw intel information that even Steele himself said is not verified but raw intelligence and spreading it just for the purpose of lying to the American people in the lead up to an election.
But don't worry, the justice system is doing such a really, really good job right now.
And the special counsel is all over Paul Manafort for his tax case that has nothing to do with Russia, the campaign, with Trump, nothing.
Unbelievable.
Quick break.
We'll come back.
We'll continue.
800-941-Sean is our number.
All right, 25 to the top of the air.
You want to know.
So we're 83 days out of this election.
I am concerned because I just know historically that midterm elections, that the party in the White House tends to lose seats.
Some years it's been an absolute bloodbath.
Other years it's not been bad at all.
It wasn't bad in 2002.
George Bush was president.
I don't think anyone had any appetite to change anything.
But historically, that is basically what happens in elections.
There's an ebb and flow to political cycles.
I don't know why it is.
I would think that the American people would actually learn from past mistakes.
I don't think it's that long ago that we can go through the failed policies of Obama.
One of the things that I'm finding very interesting, almost universally, anytime you see a Democrat or a liberal on television, they're all saying, well, the only reason the economy is good now is because Barack Obama has nothing to do with Donald Trump.
I'm like, okay, if that's your line, then why was he the first president ever to hit 3% GDP growth in his entire presidency?
Why was he the guy that added 13 million more people to food stamps and 8 million more Americans ended up in poverty?
Well, you're going to blame Bush for that?
You know, eight years wasn't enough.
He needs to take two years from Donald Trump and then say, see, I was successful then.
Ignoring the tax cuts and the impact that once again, the positive impact it's had on the country.
The president actively now enticing businesses and trillions of dollars to be repatriated from overseas.
That is helping investment in factories and manufacturing centers, jobs that Obama said would never come back.
You know, now we're setting records in terms of unemployment.
I mean, 14 states with record low unemployment.
That is a massive achievement.
And you would think that Democrats would be happy for the American people, the people that were left behind that were, you know, stuck in poverty, stuck on food stamps.
I don't think they wanted to be there.
And now they're finding these jobs are coming back in areas that we were told these jobs were never coming back in.
I think that's good for the American people.
Isn't it really supposed to be, I mean, everybody's in the service business, and the people that are least service-oriented and more about themselves than anything else are politicians.
You know, they get there.
They like their position.
It's a cushy job.
You get tons of vacation.
And then, you know, you get to make promises on the campaign trail and you don't fight in an accomplished.
There's no sense of urgency in most members of Congress to get something done.
We heard that in the infamous comments of Mitch McConnell.
I know that he's rather new to the job of this president, and we need not to be judged by artificial timelines to get things done.
We'll be judged by two years.
I'm thinking, wow, well, you're not in poverty.
You're not on food stamps.
You're not dealing with the crap and the garbage of the healthcare system under Obamacare.
How many of you have tried to get in touch with your insurance company over a healthcare issue?
How many hours did you spend on the phone, you know, and then end up, you know, with them telling you, no, we're not going to pay for that.
No, we're not going to pay for that either.
No, that's not included either.
It's like, well, what do I have insurance for?
Now, it's gotten so bad.
This is a great story out of New York.
Governor of New York is a guy by the name of Andrew Cuomo.
He now has come up with the perfect Democratic slogan to counter President Trump's trademark phrase, make America great again.
You can't even, you're going to be stunned by what I'm about to tell you.
You can't even make this up.
And the slogan that Cuomo wants to adapt is for Democrats.
America was never that great.
Well, it shouldn't surprise you.
I mean, we did have an apology tour with the last president.
Anyway, you know, that's going to be a real vote-getting winner issue.
And he slammed President Trump and the president say, make America great, saying that this country was never great in the first place.
He was speaking at an event for women and girls, and Cuomo appeared to stun the crowd when he made the remark, we're not going to make America great again.
It was never that great.
I'll get in the audio, but some of the audience were literally gasping and like shocked and like nervous laughter and surprised that he would say such a thing.
And then he continued, we have not reached greatness, he said.
We'll reach greatness when every American is fully engaged.
We'll reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51% of our population is gone and every woman's full potential is realized and unleashed and every woman is making her full contribution.
Why wait for 2020?
Maybe they should adopt this for 2018.
Maybe that should be their slogan.
You know, that American, we're not going to make America great again.
It was never great.
Okay.
Well, I actually think America is a great country.
We talked about it earlier this week.
I always quote my buddy Barry Farber: never has been in the history of mankind a country that has accumulated more power than the United States of America and abused it less.
My riff on it is we've never been a country that has accumulated more power than the United States of America, that has used it for good and the advancement of the human experience for good.
I don't know.
And what could be a harbinger of things to come on Election Day in 83 days, voters are now saying that they're more satisfied with the direction of the country than at any time in the last 12 years.
This Gallup poll was released Wednesday, 36%.
Americans are satisfied the way things are going in the U.S., the highest consecutive monthly record since 2006.
August is also the fifth month now so far this year in which the satisfaction rating was at least 35% among Americans, the most monthly readings to reach that level in the last 12 years, slightly higher than the average so far for 2018 and an increase from the 27% last year.
Let me play, we got the cut of Andrew Cuomo.
Listen to this.
We're not going to make America great again.
It was ever that great.
We have not reached greatness.
We will reach greatness when every American is fully engaged.
We will reach greatness when discrimination and stereotyping against women, 51% of our population is gone and every woman's full potential is realized and unleashed, and every woman is making her full contribution.
Okay.
America was never great.
Some of the interesting sidebars from last night's primary voters, I think, reflect, you know, the rock-solid 90% approval the president enjoys from self-identified Republicans handing victories to candidates that were supporting him on the ballot, despite his critics.
And Democratic primary voters just continue to trend leftward.
And look at Minnesota, for example.
Former governor Tim Polenti.
Remember, he denounced Trump as unhinged.
Well, he was handily defeated by an almost nine-point margin in his quest to regain that office.
And he lost to a county commissioner, Jeff Johnson.
And in Kansas, the incumbent GOP governor finally conceded to Chris Kolbach, who's a strong supporter, opponent of illegal immigration, supporter of protecting our borders endorsed by the president.
Scott Walker, former Trump critic now, who's now even earned the president's endorsement.
I think they have patched things up quite a bit.
He won pretty easily, and I think he's done a great job for the state of Wisconsin.
By the way, in the Democratic side, you now see a battle over what they're going to do with Nancy Pelosi because Nancy Pelosi seems to be dragging down the whole Democratic Party.
James Clyburn, Congressman Clyburn, said he could be a transitional leader, but not custodial.
And he says he's working to transform the Democratic caucus to make the party more appealing to young African Americans who feel taken for granted.
Well, I think we really should take a look at, thank God, the unemployment.
We now have record low unemployment in the African-American community, Hispanic community, Asian community, and 14 states.
That's all good news.
But good news for the American people doesn't seem to be good news for the Democratic Party and their chances for 2018.
Because every time there's more good economic news out there, they're like, ugh.
And the media, of course, won't report it because they don't want the good news either because they hate Donald Trump and they want to destroy him.
See what's happening.
Keith Ellison did win the nomination.
He's running for the Attorney General, but he still has these claims out there that he's abused women and it's getting louder.
And apparently there might be some tape that could possibly down the line be endorsed there.
I'm sure if his name was Donald Trump, you'd be hearing all about it every single second of every day.
But I guess we're not going to hear about it.
Larry Kudlow is going to join us at the top of the next hour.
Thank God he's feeling better.
But every economic indicator we now have is good news for the American people.
And there was a National Review article out that says Nancy Pelosi is damaging the Democrats' takeover chances, and that's right.
Some Democrats now are willing to publicly acknowledge that the liberal Nancy Pelosi is alienating independents and moderates.
People pretend it's not a problem, but it's a problem.
Democrat Brian Higgins told the Washington Post last week, he said he's frustrated.
His colleagues told him that the Republicans' anti-Pelosi ads cost the Democrats the House election in Ohio, where they trailed by 1,500 votes.
One-third of the national ads run by Republicans in that race mentioned Nancy Pelosi.
See, I don't want Nancy Pelosi to go anywhere.
Why would we want her to leave?
And now it's funny.
She was on, you know, Meet the Press this weekend.
Chuck Todd is never going to be, it's not even a watchable show for the most part.
She's actually asked some questions.
She's complaining that NBC News is running against her.
NBC News has been a jag of this.
This is one of their priorities to undermine my prospects as being Speaker.
I guess she might have said that on MSNBC, but the cable channel, then she went on to deny that she had asked one Democrat for their vote.
And she said Republicans are spending millions, tens of millions of dollars against me because they're afraid of me.
I have not asked one person for a vote.
I haven't asked a candidate or an incumbent for a vote.
What's important, and I know better than anybody how important it is for us to win this election because I see up close and personal what the Republicans and this president are doing.
I do not think our opponents should select the leaders of our party.
The Republicans are spending millions, tens of millions of dollars against me because they're afraid of me, because I outraise them in the political arena, because I outsmart them at the negotiating table, and because I'm a woman who is going to be a seat at that table.
And that, for me, is very important.
If Hillary Clinton had won and had sat at the head of that table, it'd be different.
But I'm not yielding.
I'm not yielding that.
Now, I do believe that none of us is indispensable, but I think I'm the best person for the job.
And I won't let the Republican ads, which are just flooding these districts.
And I say to the candidates, do whatever you have to do.
Just win, baby.
Just win, baby.
Go out there and win.
Well, what are they doing for the American?
What are they running on?
You can't answer the question.
No Democrat.
She was asked, well, what are you running on?
And, you know, and she gives you platitudes.
What are Democrats for?
Democrats are for the people.
Democrats are for the people.
It means we are for the people, having lower health care costs, reducing the cost of prescription drugs.
Democrats are for bigger paychecks by building the infrastructure of America, creating good paying jobs.
Democrats are for making government work by reducing the role of big dark money in politics.
What is she talking about?
You know, we're for the people.
What is your plan?
We're for the people.
Lower health care costs.
The same people that shoved in the, literally rammed down our throats Obamacare.
And we didn't get to keep our doctors or our plans.
And we didn't save money and pay less.
It's gotten the worst it's ever been.
We're going to lower health care costs.
Well, you had your chance and you blew it and you still want the stupid system.
The system's a disgrace.
And you know what?
All of you know it.
The American people know it.
You see 100% increases and more yearly, annually in some states for health care.
We've never paid more for less in our entire lives.
It's going to be very, very exciting.
But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.
Pass the bill, find out.
We have to pass it in.
We'll tell you what's in the stupid thing.
You know, unbelievable.
And I'm not saying Republicans have been that particularly strong on the issue either.
When they had their moment of truth and their promise to repeal and replace it, well, most of them, a lot of them, we found out had no intention of ever doing such.
And they never, you know, all the things they had talked about for years, really good ideas.
Healthcare savings accounts, patient power.
These cooperatives like Dr. Umber, our friend at Atlas MD in Wichita, Kansas.
There was no creative, thoughtful process.
They did a bill behind closed doors and they shoved it down the throats of their party.
Now eventually got it done in the House.
It was not anything near what I wanted.
Wasn't any of the things that they said they would do, but it was the start.
Would have been better than this mess that we now have.
All right, 800-941, Sean, we're going to talk about the economy.
I know, you know, the media is fixated on all things Amarosa 24-7.
You know, I'm frankly, I just, I don't even want to hear it anymore.
We have an election in 83 days, and they want to impeach the president.
They want their crumbs back.
They want open borders, eliminate ICE, and they want to keep Obamacare, and they want to protect the deep state that were involved in trying to rig and steal an election.
Sorry, that's not my agenda.
You know, if you care about the American people, results.
We're getting results.
Why would we go backwards?
Stay the course.
All right, hour to Sean Hannity Show.
Glad you're with us.
800-941, Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, I know the media is now just focused and fixated on their daily dose of what they'll hyperventilate about.
And it's still day five now of Amarosa and this insane reality show.
But one of the things that should impact this election more than anything else is the state of the economy.
The president talked about, yeah, Obama contributed 13 million more Americans ended up on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty.
He had the worst recovery since the 40s, took on more debt than every other president before him combined, and a horrific economic record.
Now we've got 4 million new jobs, manufacturing jobs that the president said, then President Obama said were never coming back or coming back in droves.
And by getting rid of burdensome regulation and lowering taxes, we've now created in the country a business-friendly environment once again.
And we're beginning to see companies invest in factories and manufacturing centers.
And that's benefiting everybody in the economy.
Everybody.
14 states, record low unemployment numbers.
14.
We now have record low unemployment for the African-American community, Hispanic community, Asian community.
Women in the workforce, the best economic employment levels we've had since the 70s.
Amazing numbers.
Joining us now is the president's top economic advisor, head of the National Economic Council.
He wrote a great book about how doing these things that the president are doing will result in an economic boom by comparing the economies of John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan because they both did the same thing.
Lowering taxes stimulates the economy.
Larry Kudlow, how are you?
I'm great, Sean.
Thank you.
Why did I have to hear, you know, oh, Larry Kudlow just had a heart attack and I nearly had a heart attack at the news.
How are you feeling, my friend?
I'm so sorry you went through that.
No, I feel great.
Absolutely terrific.
Got a couple of new spark plugs.
What do you mean, a couple of new spark plugs?
What does that mean?
A couple of new spark plugs.
What did they get?
Stents or what?
Some doctors might call them stents.
I would refer to them as spark plugs.
And I think I have more energy now than before.
I'm back to playing tennis and back to the job that I love on a daily basis.
Well, before I get to the economy, I had one friend of mine describe having a heart attack as like a Volkswagen felt like landed on his chest.
Was that what it was like for you?
No.
No, I didn't have the chest thing.
I just got very sick.
Yeah, you knew something wasn't right.
It wasn't right.
And the White House medical took care of me and got me over to Walter Reed.
And they did the work.
And I stayed there two nights.
And here you are.
Two weeks off, and I've never been better.
And I just want to say, Sean, you know, the stuff you're describing here, the story of the year for 2018, the news story of the year for 2018 is the economic boom.
And it's a story that a lot of people don't want to write about, and it's staring us in the face on a daily basis.
I mean, just today, we got a bunch of numbers on retail sales and industrial production and productivity that were spectacular.
The Atlanta Fed is now predicting another 4% quarter.
That's, you know, their prediction, not mine, but they were sure right about the last quarter.
I'm just saying across the board, you mentioned the employment and the unemployment.
This is the story.
And trillions of dollars around the world are coming to the USA.
They're leaving China.
They're leaving Europe.
They're leaving Asia.
I mean, this is where it's happening.
We're absolutely crushing it.
And I still think right to the end of the year and beyond, this is the big story.
This is the best economic boom we've had in a long time.
And look, ours is a private sector economy.
Entrepreneurs run our economy, including yourself, I might add.
But presidential policies can matter.
And as you said, you got it right.
Low tax rates, rollback of regulations, health energy, trade reform, all the ingredients now are coming together to create opportunities.
You know, it's okay to succeed all of a sudden.
We won't punish success.
We like men and women in large and small businesses.
And the confidence numbers off the charts.
So to me, it's the boom.
That's the big story of 2018.
Well, I think it's a story that we ought to be celebrating.
You don't hear an awful lot about it in the news media.
I mean, look, you've been in the media.
I think you know as well as anybody.
I don't think it's ever been this bad in terms of every single second, every minute, every hour, every day, 24-7, 365, it's the media obsessing and hyperventilating on the latest whatever they can hate Donald Trump about.
And I mean, these are news networks.
They say they're news networks.
They're not news networks.
They're opinion networks, and they're all in and hating the president.
And with that said, that means there's a little bit of an information crisis in the country because people aren't getting the information that you're talking about.
People are seeing it.
The polls are showing it.
The president's approval rating's never been higher.
But on the other hand, you've got a media that is obsessed with, you know, an Amarosa reality show or Stormy Daniels or Russia-Russia with no evidence.
Well, I suppose you're right.
It's most unfortunate.
But again, it's more than unfortunate.
It's a problem.
It's a big problem.
You know what?
I suggested to a reporter a couple of days ago, and this is a good, there are some good reporters out there, at least in my judgment.
I said, look.
I have 20 seconds.
You can give me the whole list.
Go ahead.
I'm not a political genius, but all I'll say is with after-tax, after inflation, incomes booming, the rest of the economy booming, elections have a way of affecting the economy.
So you guys don't want to talk about the economy.
I'm just here to say the economy is going to have a major impact in November.
I'm not a political pundit, but I've seen this story before.
Bad economies beget defeats.
Good economies beget victories for the incumbent party.
And you know, as well or better than anybody, POTUS is one heck of a good campaigner, an indefatigable campaigner, and messenger, Sean.
He will make this case.
He will.
You know, it's interesting.
Some of the only arguments I've had with fellow conservatives about his economic policy, certainly, if you say you're a conservative, you're happy about ending burdensome regulation.
And he did more faster than any president in history.
The tax cuts have had, I think, a faster impact on the economy than Reagan even had.
It took him a couple of years for it to kick in, and then it kicked in with a vengeance.
But the only thing that some conservatives seem to disagree on is the president's trade policies.
My philosophy is Donald Trump's the never-ending negotiator.
Everything with him is a negotiation.
I mean, if I ask him to be a guest on the show, we're going to negotiate how much time?
And it'll go back and forth.
And similarly, I think what the president is saying, okay, well, we don't have fair trade deals with Canada, with our European partners and allies.
And if you don't ask and you don't threaten, you're never going to get a better deal.
No other president seemed to have been willing to ever do that.
And in many ways, I think this country was taken advantage of.
Well, I think you're right.
Fair enough.
Look, you're talking to a free trader.
But I must say.
I'm a free trader.
But I'm also a fair trader.
I mean, at some point, it becomes, you know, we become allowing people to take advantage of us, and that's got to stop.
Here's the conversation I have with the president on an ongoing basis, because he regards himself as a free trader.
But the world trading system is broken.
People have stopped playing by the rules.
China is the worst example by far, but not the only one.
The adjudicator, the World Trade Organization, WTO, is broken.
People are raising tariffs and non-tariff barriers, and they shouldn't.
So we have this conversation, POTUS and I. Let's have a policy that seeks to end all tariffs, to end all non-tariff barriers, to end trade subsidies by governments, and to create an adjudication process, reform the WTO.
Why not?
This would be the greatest trade reform.
I see, I regard him as a trade reformer and the only one in the last 20 years stick to his guns.
This would mark the greatest trade reform.
Even if we make some progress in the direction of zero tariffs, it would be a terrific thing.
Why shouldn't there be full reciprocity with our friends and allies, for example, in Europe?
Right.
By the way, we're gaining on it in Europe.
You know, I negotiated, much to my amazement, when the European Union people came in.
I sat down with the number two, and we negotiated some very important transactions at the Hay Whitney Hotel.
And I told POTUS the next morning, he said, I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
Hey, Annis Hotel.
And I said, yeah.
And he gave them a chance.
So we're actually making progress with Europe on things like LNG and soybeans and pipelines.
We may be making progress on Mexico.
Lighthizer, Bob Lighthizer, he and I were children together in the Reagan years.
He's a little more optimistic.
I don't see any optimism in China.
All right.
They don't want to play by the rules.
They don't want to deal with what we're asking.
So we'll play tough.
You know, don't underestimate POTUS as a negotiator.
You know that.
I think the Chinese are learning that.
But I will say this, as someone who is a free trader, the goal of ending tariffs and so forth, ending barriers and creating a level playing field is a great goal.
And if, in the short run, Sean, if temporary or targeted tariffs are necessary to negotiate adequately, then the president has said frequently he will do so.
Well, I think China's a great example.
Listen, the intellectual property theft that goes on in itself is worth billions and billions of dollars to American entrepreneurs and inventors.
I have friends of mine that happen to be inventors, and one was even the inventor of the year.
I mean, and people just outright steal the technology.
They steal it all.
And on top of that, then you've got these ridiculously high tariffs, but they want free access to our markets.
I understand that potentially it has the potential to hurt the American economy, but at some point, you've got to say, no, you're not going to take advantage of us.
I read about this hurting the American economy.
I don't see it.
As I said, we're in a boom.
I mean, we're prepared to stand behind the sector like the farmers.
I'm not sure we're going to need it, but if need be, but we're in a boom.
You know who's hurting right now?
China.
Yeah.
Fast.
We'll take a quick break.
Larry Kudlow with us.
We have Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett, and some breaking news at the top of the next hour.
We'll get to you.
All right, Larry Kudlow with us.
He is the president's top economic advisor, head of the National Economic Council.
All right, so we did have 4.1% GDP growth.
Obama was the first president.
He never made 3% GDP growth for an entire year, the only president in history.
We're going to get another report, I assume, just before the election.
When does that one come out?
Come out probably the last week of October.
Okay.
So do you have any indications?
How do you get indications?
Because I watch all these estimates.
I mean, you had Barclays, they even had it up potentially to 5.3%.
The Atlanta Fed made their predictions at like 4.8%, 4.9%, came in at 4.1%.
When do you begin to get a feel for what the quarter is going to be like?
You know, we're starting to.
We're starting to.
The July date is in.
We just had a batch today.
Retail sales, strong.
Industrial production, strong.
Disposable income.
You know, Sean, take-home pay, which was a favorite Reagan slogan.
After inflation, take-home pay, which is maybe the most important election indicator, is booming right now.
Better than 3%, 3.1% last 12 months.
That's extremely rare.
The job story is good.
I mean, I don't want to make a prediction on behalf of the administration, but I will just say, as you noted, the Atlanta Fed and many others are looking at another 4% quarter or so.
The early evidence is quite good.
The dollar is strong.
Gold is soft.
I don't see any inflation out there.
The stock market has had some wiggles in the last day or two, but really is only a few points below its all-time highs.
Profits are roaring.
I mean, as I said to you before, and, you know, you like a good story.
When I was in the business, I loved a good story.
The good story is the economic boom in the United States.
It's just a question of convince me.
Why do I hate the stock market and just have no interest in gambling?
And I go over this all the time with financial friends of mine in the business, and I'm like, I understand the rule.
If you want the money in 10 years, don't put it in the stock market.
You know, put it in something safe.
But there's no money in any bonds whatsoever.
They seem to be pushing up interest rates, which I believe were artificially kept low to help Obama's economy.
I think, does that at some point hurt the president?
I doubt it, Sean.
I mean, profits, which are the mother's milk of stocks, are roaring.
You know, last couple of quarters, year on year, 20, 25%.
That won't last forever, but boy, is it looking good now?
Whatever happened to those companies that have been parking their trillions of dollars overseas?
Are we seeing that money come into the economy?
That's interesting.
Record repatriation.
You can look at some of these early estimates by the CBO or the joint tax.
They were completely wrong, as usual.
We're like running three times the repatriation rate.
And by the by, it's not just American companies.
It's a lot of foreign companies who just choose to invest here because we're the most hospitable environment.
And I will make a pitch for this.
Long run, particularly for younger listeners, in the long run, the stock market is the best investment.
Read Jeremy Siegel's book, Stocks in the Long Run, or by Foreign.
Listen, I've heard it all, but I don't have the stomach for these 30% correction days.
Thank you very much.
You just can't.
I'm a control freak, Larry.
I just can't take it.
I just like wealth preservation is almost better for me.
He's a great broadcaster and a great business, man.
I'm just saying, if you're not.
I'm not, listen.
Everybody says it historically.
It's true.
I know it's true.
I just don't.
For me, I just don't like it.
But all right, Larry Kudlow, you're a good man.
Thank you.
Keep up the great work.
Looking for good numbers throughout the months to come.
800-941-Sean is our toll-free telephone number.
We'll get to your calls coming up next.
All right, 25 now till the top of the hour.
So much good audio we didn't get to today, and my team is yelling at me.
Apparently, we got good Bernie tape, Elizabeth Warren tape, and Maxine Waters tape.
Is the Maxine tape the one we talked about yesterday, where Maxine, what?
She's saying from, I want Trump impeached for my 80th birthday.
Anyway, we have all that tape.
Let's play it here.
Maybe there's a little, there's a little taint to socialism that turns people.
I don't really think so.
I think the real issue is that the ideas that we have been talking about, almost without exception, Stephen, are now ideas that are mainstream ideas that are supported by the vast majority of the American people.
And I think also people in their gut understand that we're living in a really strange moment in American history above and beyond Donald Trump, which is very strange.
What's stranger than Donald Trump?
What is it?
What this is what might be stranger is that we're looking at a time where we have an out-of-control capitalism where the greed of the people on top is really unbelievable.
Obviously, we have Justice Kavanaugh.
It might be Justice Kavanaugh.
He is Trump's pick for the Supreme Court.
It strikes me that maybe progressives are not making the same push to stop this that they had made to say stop the repeal of the Affordable Care Act.
Do you think this is something that enough effort's being put behind, or do you think it's basically a done deal and he's going to be our next justice?
Sir, you know, look, it is not a done deal.
Donald Trump has made his nomination and he picked somebody off a list that has been pre-screened, pre-screened by not one, but two right-wing extremist groups.
I will say, it's just refreshing that anyone screens someone that Donald Trump picked.
Usually he just opens the door and like lets in 15 people.
But not this time.
Not this time because one of the groups, the founder of the group's number one goal is to overturn Roe versus Wade.
So think about what that screen is that he made it onto this list.
The other group, very hostile to government protecting health care for all Americans.
Congresswoman, your birthday is on Wednesday.
So free, happy birthday.
But on Wednesday, if you could be granted one birthday wish, what would that be?
I guess now my biggest birthday wish would be that we're able to get a leader of this country who represents us, who has the respect of all of our allies all over the world, someone who has an appreciation for the Constitution, someone that does not lie every morning when they get up with these tweets, someone who not only respects women, but all of the people, and instead of dividing us,
would take leadership to bring us all together.
I would wish that we could remove him from office and go about getting the kind of president that we could all be proud of.
Yes, our favorite liberals saying these wonderful things.
83 days.
Do you want them in charge?
That's how important this midterm election is.
Let's get to our busy telephones here while we have a chance.
We have Michelle is in Grapevine, Texas.
Michelle, hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
What a pleasure to speak with you, sir.
Longtime listener, but first time caller.
Well, we're glad you called.
We're glad you're here.
Welcome aboard.
Thank you so much.
So what's on your mind today?
Well, I had been listening to the show yesterday, and you were speaking to the 82 or 83-year-old woman from New York.
Do you recall it was at the end of your last hour?
And she was really troubled by Trump's tweets.
Do you recall that conversation with her?
Yes, I do.
Well, I do.
I am in accord with her on that.
I find that his tweets.
When he denigrates people, not, you know, it could be a male or female, and uses language like saying calling someone a dog or a low life, is just a behavioral problem that I wish he could correct because I think it hurts his cause.
You know, it really hurts the cause.
And we have so much on the line in November, and I know we want to re-elect him in 2020.
And I think at the margin, there are people that are very, very put off by the language in some of his tweets that become extremely personal.
And it's very juvenile language.
It's kind of like the bully on the playground.
And I'm kind of tired of people saying, well, we have to take the good with the bad.
This is Trump being Trump.
I wish he could manage his impulses when he tweets.
And that tweet is heard and then responded to by people that are all too willing to get on board and lambast him for his comments.
Listen, I understand.
And it goes back again to style.
And I, you know, some of the comments I made yesterday, yeah, I mean, I don't think people have to, I don't think every single thing that goes through your head, you have to tweet out.
I agree with that.
I think there are times that maybe it's just better to let things go.
The president seems to want to respond to everything and let everybody know he's going to fight and defend himself to his fullest ability possible.
On the other hand, when he's fighting on our behalf and he's fighting for American jobs and he's fighting to bring back American businesses and he's fighting against America's enemies and he has that urgency and that intensity, I mean, we all like it.
And I guess the interesting thing is, is, you know, it's, do you want the results or you're more interested in changing the style of somebody?
I almost believe that Donald Trump is like a shock to the system.
I said this yesterday.
It's like sometimes if you own a pool, I don't know if you've ever owned a pool, but you got to shock the pool and get rid of all the algae and you put high quantities of chlorine in it and just shocks it.
And then you want to get it back into balance and also keeps your pool from, you know, growing different whatever grows in it.
Mike, what did you say, Linda?
I didn't hear you.
Organisms.
Organisms.
You don't want organisms and you'll inhale the organisms and swallow it when you go for a deep dive.
You know, the funny thing is, I don't go swimming in pools.
I just don't waste my time.
I know you do, right?
You like to swim.
I love swimming in the pool.
Why is that a waste of time?
Yeah, you know how good I am at relaxing.
It's like, for example.
First of all, a good swim is good exercise.
It's not relaxing at all, but go ahead.
Okay, I'm not talking about swimming for exercise, nor do I want to do that because there's nothing more monotonous, I think, in my life going lap.
It's incredibly good for your body.
You should use up your muscles.
What you should do is do a lap and then do 10 push-ups out of each end.
That's what I used to do when I swam.
Okay.
And I'm going to listen to you for health tips and advice.
Seriously?
I'm in better shape than you are.
Yeah, but I mean, that's when I used to swim.
I didn't say I still.
You do know Ethan was a champion swimmer.
I didn't know you were a champion swimmer.
My parents wanted me to swim.
My sister swam, and they were AAU swimmers.
They were really good swimmers.
They won races all the time.
And that was what they did.
They went to all these swim meets.
And my parents desperately tried to get me to swim.
And then they'd send me to swimming practice.
And the coach would say, okay, swim to the other end.
I'd swim to the other end.
And I'd be like, this is monotonous.
And then I'd start doing cannonballs and can openers and, you know, any splash dive that I could think of.
And manual.
Yeah, my swim coach was a Marine, so he wouldn't have allowed any of that.
I wasn't going.
And I ended up every time in the diving pool because that's where all the troublemakers ended up.
And it wasn't a punishment for me.
I was like, good, I'm out.
Then my parents would come pick us up, and my sisters would tell on me.
And I'd get in trouble for not swimming back and forth again and again and again.
I didn't want to bore the daylights out of me.
Yeah, but now you've matured.
You can do, you know, different things.
No, I don't want to.
I didn't want to do it then, and I don't want to do it now.
And I don't like the feeling of chlorine on my skin.
You could get a saltwater pool.
That's what I have.
You know, poor Michelle must be thinking, what did I just start here?
Michelle loves this.
No, we're talking about draining the swamp and scum.
And I just don't think you're going to drain the swamp by being nice about it.
I don't think you're going to be able to.
I think this is a time where you need powerful, committed, fighting force.
And I don't think being nice is going to work to do the things that need to get done.
Does that make sense?
It does make sense.
But I think if he could lose some of the adjectives when he's talking about the people.
I think it would serve him well.
I don't disagree because then the media goes nuts over any word that he uses.
And then poor Sarah Sanders is up there trying, and she's, you know, she has all these questions coming out.
I wouldn't want that job.
No, and I wouldn't want that job either.
Or Kelly Ann Conway.
I wouldn't want that job either.
They're really serving their country.
But you don't need to, if you can clean up, take some of those adjectives out.
You know how many times people have told this to the president?
You don't think people have told him again and again.
But he's not going to check.
This is the one thing that I'm saying.
You get the good with the bad.
And the good is when he's fighting for you and jobs and fighting against our enemies and fighting with companies to bring them back to America to create jobs.
You know what?
He's going to fight as hard and harder for us.
So, you know, I'll take the few bad words and the tweets and comments that I wish maybe weren't said on occasion.
If we can get the job done, I'm more concerned with the results and whether or not the American people are better off.
Listen, I hate to say I'm not offended by words.
And I've been called every word in the book.
Michelle, if you Google my name, I promise you, it's going to come up that Hannity Satan.
It's going to be there.
If you read comments of posts that people make about me, you know, I never thought in my life I'd become clickbait.
You know, I feel like I've evolved in the sense that, oh, let's put Hannity's name on any article, then we'll get people to click on it with outrageous lying headlines in some cases.
But with that said, I'll take that knowing that we're fighting for what's right for the people of this country and get this swamp cleaned up, get the economy roaring, get our national defenses up to the level they need to be.
And I think if we do that, you know what?
None of the names are significant in any shape, manner, or form, in my opinion.
But I'm somebody that doesn't get offended too easily.
I'm called everything.
There are those out there that totally support the president's agenda and the administration and are thrilled with the way the country is progressing.
I get that.
Listen, I totally understand it.
People have, listen, during the campaign, I was one of the people.
I remember I said, you got to stop tweeting.
You got to stop tweeting.
You got to stop because it was causing him all sorts of problems during the campaign.
And eventually, I began to see that it didn't matter how many people were going to tell him to stop tweeting.
He was going to keep tweeting.
And with that said, you know, you look at the big picture.
Where is he on the economy, on judges, on the borders, on regulation, on foreign policy, on Iran, on Jerusalem, on North Korea, on Russia?
And frankly, I'm just, I'm prioritizing the most important things for me, and that is helping the American people have the economy they deserve, getting government off our backs, draining this disgusting swamp in D.C., making this country safer and more secure for our children.
And that is my top priorities.
You know, that's what gets me up.
That's what I want to fight for.
I think it's worth fighting for.
This country, this world needs this country to be successful.
Our children need it and deserve it.
And we have an obligation to make it better.
But I hear you.
I do.
And I understand exactly what you're saying.
This is not a new conversation to me.
Anyway, good call.
Thank you.
Let's go to Mike in Evansville in Indiana.
Mike, how are you?
It's a pleasure to get to talk to you.
A real honor.
I love you.
I'm going to see you just about every day.
Thank you.
Yeah.
And I agree with you on the tweets.
I think that I always tell my relatives, I say, if you hired someone to work on your house, some construction workers, and you found out that they cheated on their wife back in 78, would you let them finish the job or are you going to fire him?
We hired President Trump to do a job and he's doing the job we hired him to do.
And his past history just doesn't really matter.
It's the job he's doing right now.
And the tweets, the one thing about that is we have the opportunity to know what he's thinking and what he's saying and not secondhand information through the media that's not accurate anyway.
Well, that's the good part of tweeting.
I actually have changed my opinion.
I see it now as a massive advantage for him to bypass a corrupt media.
Look, I just have an urgency about the state of things in the country.
I'm very, very concerned.
You know, I saw the direction of the country under liberal leftist Obama and the Democrats, and we saw the damage they've done.
I see this president is correcting that damage every day, and the people of the country are the ones that are benefiting from it.
I have an urgency to get this done and get this done as quickly as we possibly can.
And I see also corruption, abuse of power at a level that should put chills up and down the spines of every American citizen.
That needs to be fixed, or we're going to lose our constitutional republic.
On top of that, it's a very dangerous world.
Our military needs to be strong.
Our borders need to be secure.
At this point, getting things done and maybe being a little loud and even at times crude about it doesn't offend me.
And I'm saying this as somebody that basically is called every name possible.
All right, when we come back, Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett, will join us.
Sarah has some huge breaking news, text messages between Christopher Steele and Bruce Orr.
And yeah, it's as bad as Peter Strzok text messages.
We'll explain when we get back.
We'll break that news.
Also, we'll check in with a former agent for the DEA.
All these top-ranking officials are focused on politics.
Well, what happens to national security?
We'll get into that issue.
Don't forget Hannity tonight, Mark Levin, Sarah Gregg, Alan Dershowitz, and much more.
All right, final hour free-for-alls next.
All right, news roundup information overload hour, 800-941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
We turn our attention now to the latest on Deep Stategate.
I know it's counterintuitive to the media narrative of Amarosa Amarosa, but there is huge news.
Now, we've had a lot happen in just the last week and a half.
One, the firing of Peter Strzok and the importance of such, although the news media would rather cover Amarosa and the significance of it is, well, I'll get into it in just a second.
Number two, the connection now, the deep, deep connection both before and after the election of Bruce Orr and Christopher Steele.
They had apparently seven meetings or more together and exchanges together, which we're now getting beginning to get a handle on.
One interesting theory is somebody threw by me the other day and said, Well, yeah, now, of course, they're going to fire Strzok because now they don't have any influence on his testimony, and they wanted to make sure that the FBI lawyers were able to be there when he did testify.
Now, Bruce Orr has not been fired yet, and that means FBI lawyers get to coach him and take care of him as he goes into the congressional hearing, a special one that is now scheduled for August the 28th.
On top of that, we're learning that Fusion GPS, this all-important big, you know, Trump Tower meeting that took place.
Well, the people that went in to meet with Don Jr. and others, it appears, met with Fusion GPS Glenn Simpson both before and after that meeting.
I'd like to know what was said before and what was said after.
And was this in any way, shape, matter, or form some kind of setup?
Because certainly it appears so, especially now that we know that Fusion GPS had a client and it was the Russian woman that was in the meeting.
You can't even begin to make this up, but it's all happening and it's all true.
And finally, again, we're just unpealing the layers of the onion.
And it gets worse every day.
Sarah Carter, Fox News investigative reporter, contributor, Greg Jarrett.
He has the number one book in the country, The Russian Hoax, The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton, Frame Donald Trump.
Both are here.
Sarah, I just got your new column, and you have now been able to come across never-before-seen texts.
I'll let you break it here between Steele and Orr.
Sean, these text messages between Bruce Orr and Christopher Steele, I think, are the most significant to have come out yet.
They basically show Christopher Steele on March 18th, 2017.
This was just two days before Now Fired, former FBI Director James Comey testified to Congress, he was actually testifying to the House Intelligence Committee that the FBI had an open counterintelligence investigation into President Trump and his campaign.
So two days before he makes this announcement, Christopher Steele sends Orr a text message saying, Hi, just wondering if you had any news.
Obviously, we're, now remember, we're not just me, a bit apprehensive given scheduled appearance at Congress on Monday, hoping that important firewalls will hold many things.
Orr writes back.
He says, Sorry, no new news.
I believe my earlier information is still accurate.
I will let you know immediately if there is any change.
That's huge.
Okay, let me go through this again.
This is Steele writing Orr.
This is in March of 2017.
Steele has now long been fired.
Remember, we had now chronicled in the last week and a half that Orr and Steele had a series of meetings together.
How many?
Do we know the exact number?
I have been told it was nearly 70 meetings.
Between texting, between calling on phone, between meeting in person, there was about 70 contacts, 70 communications between them.
And Nellie Orr worked for Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS, we believe, on the dossier.
Is that correct?
That is correct.
She was hired in 2016.
So we know that was a critical time period.
That is when Glenn Simpson brought on Nellie Orr, who remember is a Russian expert.
She also speaks fluent Russian.
So she was very much involved in the dossier and what Christopher Steele was doing.
And apparently, according to the text messages and the emails we have seen, had a relationship as well with Christopher Steele along with her husband.
And we know that both Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson were no Trump fans.
We know that for a fact because Bruce Orr told the FBI in the interviews, which are the 302s, which thankfully the House Intelligence Committee during their Russia memo was able to get out public.
He had specifically told Orr that he did not want to see Donald Trump precome president.
He was pretty much going to do everything in his power to ensure that he wouldn't.
Okay, now that we set that all up, so we have the 70 contacts, meetings, Orr and Steele.
This is after Steele is let go and fired by the FBI.
This is ongoing contact.
And let's put this in context.
This is March 18th, 2017.
And in the text, Steele is writing, Orr, hi, just wondering if you had any news.
Obviously, we're a bit apprehensive given the scheduled appearance at Congress on Monday, hoping that important firewalls will hold.
Many thanks.
Or writing back, sorry, no news.
I believe my earlier information is still accurate.
And I would assume that means that the firewall holds.
I will let you know immediately if there is any change.
Okay, let's put it in the timeframe and context and then bring Greg Jarrett in to put to add his observations to this.
Well, in the timeframe and context, Sean, if we're looking at this, I mean, that was a really critical hearing.
Everybody was anticipating what would Comey say.
It appears from these text messages that Orr and Steele, even though they were obviously new, there were reports that Comey was going to go before Congress, Orr and Steele were very concerned, particularly Steele.
Remember, he was supposed to have been fired by this point, and he was fired.
And remember, at this point in time, what we've discovered is that Orr was being used as a back channel by the FBI.
So what the FBI was doing was basically filtering information from Steele through Orr back to the FBI.
Also, at this time, to put things into context.
At that point in time, Carter Page, remember, the FBI was spying on Carter Page.
They were going through a renewal process.
The last renewal went through that spring by none other than Rod Rosenstein, who signed off on the final FISA.
Bruce Orr's old boss, Sally Yates, she was the one, remember, that ran to the White House in early 2017 to warn about Michael Flynn and saying that Michael Flynn could possibly be blackmailed by the Russians.
And that was a big thing, too, because that is how the same exact, the same exact type of propaganda or disinformation is what they use on President Trump, and they continue to use on this day.
Oh, he can be blackmailed by the Russians.
And there's no evidence to prove any of that, neither for Flynn and neither for President Trump.
So you have all these same players, all with the same agenda, doing the same thing, doing exactly the same thing.
They're pushing the same disinformation.
They're still using Christopher Steele, even though he's been terminated by the FBI.
We have Bruce Orr involved, and now Comey is being brought before Congress.
And this is critical because that is when Comey actually verifies that the Trump campaign had been under a counterintelligence investigation.
Let me bring Greg Jarrett in here because this is all important new information.
And Greg, I want you to, there's a lot to absorb here.
And the timing of this is critical.
I want to get your take.
Well, I have about 60 pages of Bruce Orr, Christopher Steele text messages, emails, and notes.
What's incredible is during the timeframe we're talking about here with Sarah is how worried that Steele was that he'd be busted by Congress or otherwise exposed.
At the same time, he's trying to provide anti-Trump information even after he, Steele, was fired by the FBI.
And he's using or to get to the FBI and Mueller directly, the special counsel.
Now, for example, in March of 2017, Steele writes how concerned he is about Senator Grassley's letter and inquiry it's going to implicate him.
And then he's frantic that Comey's congressional testimony might expose him.
And still later, he's worried about the Senate Intelligence Committee contacting him with questions.
You fast forward a couple of months, and here's Steele trying to re-engage with the FBI and the special counsel.
Here's a quote from Steele, a text message.
We're frustrated with how long this re-engagement with the Bureau and Mueller is taking.
Anything you can do to accelerate the process would be much appreciated.
There are new, perishable operational opportunities which we do not want to miss out on.
And so, you know, here you've got a guy who is, he composed a phony anti-Trump dossier.
He's trying to peddle it to the FBI still after he was fired, and he's trying to get his information to Bob Mueller while at the same time trying not to get exposed for the fraud he is.
And that would be both with the Senate committee and now in this particular case, very concerned at the testimony that is pending for Jim Comey and indicating that an important firewall has been set up to obviously protect, I assume, him and protect this whole scheme.
And Steele is worried about the media.
Here's another text message.
We've just seen a story in the media about the Bureau handing over documents to Congress about my work and relationship with them.
Very concerned about that.
People's lives may be in danger.
You know, I thought that Glenn Simpson at Fusion GPS was this crazy Walter Mitty character.
But Christopher Steele is sort of this James Bond wannabe when really he's just kind of Barney Fife and he, you know, he can't get his gun out of his holster.
Well, remember, Sean, there were so many other questions that have arisen over the last year that we're still making connections to.
And I know Greg is looking into this as well.
The State Department, how that played a role in Christopher Steele.
Because remember, Christopher Steele was in contact with sources at the State Department, with Jonathan Win, with Jonathan Winter, with Victoria Newland.
We know that John Kerry at the time was probably well aware of this.
There were other players as well connected to Hillary Clinton, like Cody Scheer, a former journalist who went on to be one of Bill Clinton's right-hand men, as well as Sidney Blumenthal, who was an advisor to Hillary Clinton even while she was in the State Department.
So there were a lot of players here.
There was a lot of information bouncing back and forth and around.
And let's not leave out Great Britain.
Because Christopher Steele, you're never really a former spy, just as Greg has always very well explained on your show.
You're always a spy.
So everything Christopher Steele was collecting was going back to Great Britain.
And we still don't know what Great Britain shared with the United States during that time.
All right, we got to take a break.
We're going to come back.
We'll continue.
We'll have a lot more on this tonight on Hannity on the Fox News channel.
Greg Jarrett, Sarah Carter with us.
This now, it gets deeper.
The plot thickens and thickens.
And honestly, it's like a house of cards that one card's going to come and it's all going to come flying down.
You wait.
As we continue, Greg Jarrett, he now, for two weeks and running now, is the number one New York Times best-selling author, The Russian Hoax.
Also with us, Sarah Carter, breaking news today, newly discovered text messaging.
Christopher Steele writing Bruce Orr after we now learned last week there was some 70-plus meetings.
Hey, wondering if you had any news.
Obviously, we're a bit apprehensive given scheduled appearance at Congress on Monday, hoping that important firewall will hold.
Firewalls will hold.
Multiple.
Orr writes back.
No news.
I believe my earlier information is still accurate.
This now gets into an area of collusion and conspiring to literally disseminate false information to not only the American people, but turn it into a law enforcement issue, especially when you factor in that Christopher Steele was desperately trying to get his information to Robert Mueller.
You know, you need a flowchart to keep track of all the co-conspirators.
And you need a calculator to sum up all the crimes they appear to have been committing here.
You know, here they are using fraudulent documents.
The FBI knew these were frauds and fakes, that it was all phony.
They didn't care.
They could use it first to stop Trump from getting elected and then later to remove him from office, to destroy him.
And, you know, that, you know, as a lawyer, I look at that and you just go through the criminal codes and you got, you know, deprivation of rights under color of law.
You got obstruction of justice.
They used it in a FISA warrant.
That's perjury.
You know, filing a false and misleading statement.
I mean, the list goes on and on.
There should be a multi-count indictment against all of these conspirators.
And that would include people like not just Christopher Steele, but it would include, you know, Glenn Simpson.
He was in on it, Bruce, or, you know, maybe Nellie Orr, James Comey, all the people who signed off in the FISA warrant, knowing full well that they were doing it in violation of the law.
That's a conspiracy to defraud the government.
It's major fraud.
You know, the list goes on and on.
And yet, the only real, genuine, legitimate investigation is of Donald Trump for nothing.
And all of the people who are involved, the law enforcers were the law breakers, as I've said so often.
I think there's a lot of explaining to do here.
Right.
You know, investigating the investigators.
Sarah, we got 20 seconds for you.
Well, it just tells me when I look at these text messages that this was pre-planned, that they had plan A, Plan B, Plan C, and firewalls up to try to stop information from reaching the American public about what they were doing.
All right, we'll continue.
We'll have more with Sarah Carter.
Greg Jarrett will also be joined by Derek Maltz.
He's a former agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration Special Operation Division.
And he is going to join this discussion on Bruce Orr, Robert Mueller, and he has information no one else has discussed.
That's next.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour, 800-941-Sean is our number.
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We have Sarah Carter.
Greg Jarrett also being joined by Derek Maltz.
He's a former agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration Special Operation Division.
And, Sarah, before we get to everybody, you kind of have a friend of yours that's getting the Medal of Valor today.
That's right.
He received the Medal of Valor, actually, yesterday.
He was awarded it at the Department of Defense.
It's Brandon Ray Siebold, a very close friend to our family.
He's been a friend of my husband for more than 20 years.
He fended off the enemy in Helmont Province in 2015, saved a lot of lives.
And at one point, he was all alone fighting the enemy, an onslaught of enemy insurgents.
He's an incredible human being, like a lot of our men and women in the armed services, like all of them are.
And I just wanted to wish him the best and tell him thank you for his service to our country and that we're so proud of him.
Well, we are so proud of him and sounds well deserved.
And the Medal of Valor is something that, you know, is rare.
And I think there have only been 14 up until yesterday.
There were three recipients of the Medal of Valor yesterday.
Unbelievable.
And again, we're so fortunate.
So many people sacrificed so much.
And, you know, it doesn't matter if you're a contractor.
You're still in a war zone.
You're still trying to help your country.
It's a different capacity, but you're doing it.
That's right.
And they all served before.
So these are people that are trained.
They know what they're doing.
They're working with our military, and they're sacrificing their lives every day and their time away from their family.
Let me bring in Derek Mulz here.
Derek, thank you for joining us.
From my understanding, you have information that nobody's discussed, and I'm dying to hear what it is.
Hey, Sean, how are you today?
It's very nice to be on your show.
I appreciate all your great reporting.
So when we talk about Bruce Orr, one thing I need the public to understand is that Bruce Orr had a very, very big responsibility in heading up the Obama administration's threat mitigation working group, which was the group responsible for synchronizing the efforts of all the interagency in the government to go after the biggest threats to this country.
Now, when you look at Hezbollah, for example, Sean, President Obama himself said they're one of the most technically capable terrorists in the world.
So when we had this interagency case going together, and we were doing some really good work, we seized $150 million out of bank accounts in Lebanon.
We shut down one of the largest trade-based money laundering schemes we've ever seen in America with used PARS.
And basically, Sean, we could not get the interagency to cooperate and to share information.
Now, what really is really annoying, we're just talking about servicemen and women.
My brother died in Afghanistan, Sean, in 2003 in Durham Freedom.
So, yeah, so I'm very passionate about this topic and took my job of national security very seriously, Sean.
Of course.
So how is it when you have a Department of Justice high-level official not bringing the agencies together?
We had 300 businesses in America, Sean, involved with this scheme, and we were only able to include 30 in the action in the Southern District of New York because we couldn't get the interagency to cooperate, which, by the way, was the most important function of the Obama threat mitigation working.
So when you talk about Bruce Orr, and now you look at the discrete emails and the operations that he was involved in and meeting informants around the world and setting up secret meetings, all for the, you know, with the agenda of taking out our president.
I mean, it's really disturbing me because I look back and I didn't see any of this during the time.
I couldn't understand why these cases weren't coming together if this was one of our biggest national security threats.
And the Department of Justice really didn't help out too much.
It's unbelievable and it's all too predictable.
And we see this happen all the time.
I mean, the level of incompetence and corruption, I've never seen it at such high levels.
And it pretty much goes to the heart of what we've been talking about today.
Let me get a reaction from Greg Jarrett.
And also the other news that we didn't get to in the last half hour is Brennan's security clearance has been revoked.
It took a long time to get there, but he's the guy that leaked the dirty dossier with Russian lies.
He never verified it to Harry Reid, and that spread like wildfire, all to misinform the American people in the lead up to an election.
I mean, you have a CIA director spreading propaganda and lies.
Yeah, the CIA director, former John Brennan, as I refer to him in my book, The Russia Hoax, was the instigator of the hoax through the phony dossier.
He got his hands on it, and he started peddling it to anybody who would listen.
James Clapper, who was a director of national intelligence, he was the leaker, as I call him in the book.
He was the guy who was trying.
Is Brennan also a leaker?
Oh, yeah.
Brennan was a leaker, but Clapper was the prolific, prodigious leaker.
Brennan was more trying to instigate on Capitol Hill and get them to leak to the media, and he did so successfully, the phony dossier to try to stop Trump from being elected.
Very few media organizations actually picked up on it, The Washington posted two stories on it calling it Trump-Russia collusion.
But because the media in general just assumed Trump would lose, nobody else really gave it much credibility.
It wasn't until after Trump was elected and the media went into hyper-overdrive panic and apoplectic mode that they decided to latch on to this phony notion of Trump-Russia collusion.
And, you know, they ran with it with their hair on fire and they still are.
But, you know, it's interesting to hear about Bruce Orr from Mr. Maltz because, you know, Bruce Orr is one of those guys who wasn't supposed to be in this counterintelligence investigation.
That's not his job.
That's not his role.
He insinuated himself into the case and saw himself as a conduit, an intermediary between Christopher Steele and the FBI and eventually the special counsel's office.
When Orr testifies, he's got a lot to answer for, and I wouldn't be surprised if, armed with a lawyer, he invokes the fifth.
That's interesting.
Sarah, as you put all this together with your breaking news today, I mean, it seems like now we're finally beginning to get to the bottom of it.
But the fact that Brennan had access, you know, all this while, I'm glad he lost his clearance, but why is it all so slow?
Because, Sean, I think that there's a process that they want to follow.
I mean, the administration wants to be able to follow the process the right way.
Remember, a lot of people had held on to their security clearances and hold on to their security clearances when they leave office.
They go on to work for companies that require high-level security clearances or they open their own.
And I think what happened here was an anomaly, something so different than we've ever seen in the past.
We have a former CIA director, John Brennan.
We have James Clapper.
We have Jim Comey.
We have Eric Holder coming out and attacking the administration with such vitro that it appears to be so much worse than we could ever see come out of Russia or anywhere else.
I mean, these are people that are supposed to be serving this nation.
These are people that have been promised to be the silent professionals to do their job, to aid the administration, no matter who's in power.
And they come out with lies.
They come out with disinformation.
They spread Russian lies.
And then they leave these little drops of doubt in the American mind.
I mean, because if you think about it, he is the former head of the CIA.
So people who don't know the story as well as we do or don't read all these documents or don't have time to do that see the former head of the CIA come out and say the Russians have blackmail material on the president of the United States, even though he has no information or proof of it.
He says it, and it spreads throughout the world, not just in the United States, but throughout the world, and causes this doubt and puts America in such a bad light.
This is a person that needed to have his security clearance revoked.
No doubt.
He is an embarrassment to the CIA, to the men and women who work there.
James Clapper, I believe, is in the same boat.
Eric Holder is in the same boat.
This is an embarrassment to our country that people within our own nation who border on sedition of our own government have done this.
And hopefully, we do get to the bottom of this.
And hopefully, Congress does the right thing and gets to the bottom of it.
But more importantly, we need an attorney general, an attorney general that actually does his job.
And we need to ask Rod Rosenstein a lot of questions because, just like you said earlier, there is no one overseeing the investigators, and someone needs to do that.
Let me bring Derek Maltz back in this context here.
You know, we're seeing the highest levels of the FBI, the DOJ, in this particular case, John Brennan, and the former director of National Intelligence, Brennan, the CIA director.
You know, part of what you are observing in your life and your background, you know, you were in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration's operations division, and you have seen a ton of failure as it relates to the very organizations we're discussing in terms of protecting the American people.
And specifically, I'm talking about like the Boston bombing and other instances where we're missing signs.
Now we're finding out at the highest levels that politics is being played in the most duplicitous of ways, which probably has to captivate at least 85% of the attention instead of focusing in on their jobs.
Sean, exactly.
So let me just give you an update on something.
So after 9-11, the FBI directed a DEA administrator, the attorney general, recognizing that drugs are connected to terrorism because of the proceeds, right?
And they recognized that at the Special Operations Division, they needed a section where we had the interagency to coordinate crime and terror cases.
Bob Mueller was responsible for helping to set that group up.
Well, here's the irony, Sean.
When the Russians provided the FBI information on Tamelin, the Boston bomber, the FBI compartmentalized that in their JTPF.
They didn't share it with their interagency partners.
The police chief, Ed Davis, was testifying all over Congress about his department, didn't even know.
But here's what the public doesn't know, Sean.
So after the bomb, of course, everybody's trying to figure out what went wrong and who these people are.
The Special Operations Division had information about drug-related activities on Tamelin's family.
We had a cellular phone that we identified that could have been investigated early in 2011.
Now, here's the other piece.
In the Boston Homeland Security Office with DEA, they had a major marijuana case that we call an OSADEF case, which Bruce Orr later was the OSADEF director.
Well, they had a major marijuana organization.
One of the kids that was mutilated in the apartment on the 10-year anniversary of 9-11 was a target of that marijuana case.
Tamelin's best buddy from the gym was laying in the pile of blood in the apartment, and no one could figure it out because no one had the pieces of the puzzle.
Now, Sean, what's really disturbing is we have 9-11 commissions, we have expected general reports, and year after year we talk about information sharing.
When is somebody going to be held accountable?
And then Bob Mueller went on TV in front of Congress, and I have the video, in 2013 and told the American public that the FBI did a thorough investigation leading, you know, from the information about Tamelin.
How do you say you did a thorough investigation when you didn't even coordinate with your interagency partners and you didn't share it with the Attorney General's information sharing program in D.C., which was my center?
So we missed a golden opportunity, and poor Martin Richard, eight years old, is mutilated in front of his mother and father on the streets of Boston because of the incompetence and the lack of information sharing.
And I'm waiting to see somebody be held accountable for that, Sean, because we can't continue to have all these, well, we're sorry, you know, we forgot, we didn't check with this agency.
We have automation now.
We have technology that makes it very simple.
One last thing about that whole Boston vomit, which is relevant.
Congress holds a hearing to compare Boston and Austin five years after the Boston bombing.
It was so misleading because in the Austin case, the bombs went off.
Of course, law enforcement's going to work together to find the killer.
But in the Boston case, they had two years before the bomb, and nobody was involved in the investigation except a compartmentalized group in the FBI.
When is this madness going to stop, Sean?
Let me bring Greg in.
You know, there's a really good point that I think he's making here, and that is when you think of all the time, effort, attention that is now, that we are now discovering that people are devoting at the highest levels of these agencies to sabotaging a political process.
Yeah, I don't think they have much time for what their real jobs are, Greg.
Well, that's true.
And look, some of the people we've been talking about here the last several minutes, Bob Mueller in particular, but James Comey as well.
The truth about these two men completely belies and undermines their carefully crafted image as Boy Scouts.
They are not.
They're unprincipled.
They're unscrupulous.
They're overly ambitious.
They have abused their positions of power.
I'm going to have to leave it there, but I will say this.
Congrats again, number one two weeks in a row, Greg Jarrett.
Sarah Carter, this is huge news you're breaking on the program today.
Well, full coverage tonight.
Derek, thank you for joining us and really sounding the alarm about how we're literally, you know, the amount of attention that's being spent on politics, you know, we're missing opportunities to protect the American people, which is the job that most people sign up for.
800-941 Sean is a toll-free telephone number.
We'll have a lot more on this.
Brennan losing his security clearance and much more tonight at nine on Hannity.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
Hannity tonight, 9 Eastern Fox News, as Sarah Carter breaking huge news.
This could be a cascade, as we just reported.
She has text messages between Christopher Steele and Bruce Orr that are quite damning.
We'll explain the consequences of this.
Also, the great one, Mark Levin, Greg Jarrett, Alan Dershowitz, David Schoen, and much more.
