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There is so much happening today.
It's going to take the entire show to get it all in.
And a lot of it is evolving even as we speak.
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You know, the media is making a huge deal.
Mueller has now subpoenaed the Trump organization for documents as it relates to Russia.
Well, the Trump organization just came out with a statement.
Since July of 2017, we have advised the public that the Trump organization is fully cooperative with all investigations, including the special counsel, and have been responding to their requests.
This is old news, and our assistance and cooperation with the various investigations remains the same today.
And this is something that is now happening on a regular basis in your fake news environment that we live in.
And that is they are recycling old stories again and again and again because they can't deal with what is unfolding in this country.
And that is they have been wrong.
They have outright lied to you.
And everything is boomeranging back onto their political side.
It's beyond the pale.
Now, I'm going to get to a lot of what's happening.
Andrew McCabe is about to be fired.
It's probably going to happen tomorrow.
And he's actually been meeting with senior Department of Justice officials trying to make the case to save his job.
He loses his job today or tomorrow.
He loses his pension, which would take effect on Sunday.
Now, I have people that my sources are told me that what he has done is so explosive, so bad, so illegal, that the chances are very high that there might be criminal charges brought against him.
Now, we got to give you a backdrop to all of this, and I will in a second.
And the backdrop is simple: that all of this is not happening in a vacuum.
All of this, there have been 500 attorneys and prosecutors that have been working diligently for 14 months on the Inspector General report.
Now, there's so many aspects of what the Inspector General's report is going to be.
You know, nobody can fully comprehend the depth of this.
But remember, McCabe was put on leave for a long time because McCabe obviously is something explosive here.
You don't fire a guy two days before he retires and take away his pension unless whatever that guy did, you know, negates 30 years of service or however many years.
And, you know, he's the deputy director of the FBI.
We're not talking about a small fish here.
And again, I go back.
I cannot believe any attorney would allow James Comey, as I believe, and as Greg Jarrett believes, as legally vulnerable as we believe he is, to go out on any book tour.
And that is shock.
And you know that this eventually is going to come back to bite him and haunt him.
And as I said, I actually tweeted out to Mr. Comey.
You have the right to remain silent in case you didn't remember.
But we'll see as time goes on.
By the way, I work with a bunch of people that are committing a crime in New York right now.
What you are holding in your arms is illegal in New York and in this building.
It is a crime what you're doing.
A beautiful creature of God?
A beautiful creature of God, a puppy, is not allowed in this building without paying high fines in this building.
It's a stuffed animal that looks a robotic stuffed animal.
That licks Lauren's face and goes, woof, woof.
Is that it?
Technology is very advanced these days.
Uh-huh.
All right.
Well, I'm totally busting you.
All right.
I got other news to focus on.
Now, before I get back to this, which is our top story, also, Trump, it's unbelievable.
He's the guy that's tough on Russia.
And the guy that was warned is a guy by the name of Barack Obama.
And remember, weeks or just a couple of days even before the last election telling Trump, stop whining.
Stop your, as if any serious person, ha ha, believes that we could ever be influenced.
There's no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's elections.
In part because they're so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved.
There's no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which that will happen this time.
And so I'd invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.
Yeah, stop whining, Mr. Trump.
You go out and get some votes for crying out loud.
What's wrong with you?
Gee, Liz, unbelievable.
We're following a story.
This is a sad story.
A pedestrian bridge at FIU has collapsed early this afternoon, apparently trapping any unknown number of people and cars underneath it.
I assume this is like one of those, it goes from building to building across a busy street.
That's what it looked like in the image.
A 950-ton bridge.
A 950-ton bridge.
This was a pedestrian bridge only, as I understand it.
Is that correct?
Anyway, right or wrong.
Anyway, it's a pedestrian bridge at FIU.
It collapsed.
You got people and cars trapped underneath it.
I mean, the scene is just, it's so scary.
It's brand new, too.
Brand new bridge collapsed.
It was supposed to be completed in 19.
It went up on Saturday.
So in other words, it wasn't even supposed to, so they didn't even, they didn't do an inspection of the bridge.
Nobody checked to see if it was built properly.
I mean, we have the capacity to build bridges that work.
Unbelievable.
I'm looking at this scene.
I mean, you look at it and you pray to God that somebody can survive something like this.
But then you look at it and you're like, oh, it just doesn't seem possible.
But anyway, there's a rescue going on.
A lot of people, a lot of movement about there.
You know, this is, and the president has been made aware of this whole thing.
Anyway, it collapsed.
It's installed at Southwest 109th Avenue.
This is in the Miami Herald reporting, intending to eventually provide pedestrian access across what is known as the Tammany Trail, which I know very well, and FIU's main campus to Sweetwater, where thousands of students live off-campus and off-campus housing or some of the newer dorms.
So it kind of connects the whole thing together.
I know that Hofstra University out in Long Island has a big one that goes across Hempstead Turnpike.
I've been on it a number of times myself.
And anyway, we're hopes and prayers.
We're told that multiple deaths, by the way, have occurred here.
It's a 950-ton pedestrian bridge.
It's very scary.
Anyway, we're praying for everybody, hoping that maybe they'll be able to get some more survivors out of there.
Very scary.
All right.
So let me deal with a couple of issues as it relates to everything that's going on in the country right now.
These are unprecedented times that we're living in.
And I mean that there has never been a time in my life where everything that seems up is actually down.
You know, black is white, white is black.
I just never have seen anything like this, and nor has anybody that I know that follows politics.
You know, we literally have a case where there's a report this morning.
Oh, we've got to pay very close attention to this because Robert Mueller is demanding documents from the Trump organization.
And I'm like, okay, so he's demanding documents.
Well, the problem is, is that the Trump organization has been handing over all the documents they've asked for since July of last year.
And the attorneys for the president came out with they have handed over what is an unprecedented number of documents to the special counsel's office.
So whoever's leaking this is leaking old news, and that now has become a big problem.
Just to gin up ratings, they just recycle stories from months and months ago because they assume, rightly, that people forget that that has already happened.
And that's a new definition of fake news, if you can believe it.
We know the deputy FBI director, even at this hour, Andrew McCabe, whatever this is going to be, is beyond the pale.
That's all I can say.
And this is not happening, as I said, in a vacuum.
There is a reason that Andrew McCabe is going to be denied, likely tomorrow, his pension.
And we expect that to happen when his pension is to take effect on Friday.
Now, remember, the new FBI director, Ray, after he got wind of just a little bit of what's inside this Inspector General's report, this is the Horowitz report, which could come out any day now.
Now, you've got to remember, too, about this Inspector General report, it deals with a multitude of issues here.
Remember, it's going to deal with the entire handling of the Clinton email server investigation.
We're going to address the tarmac meeting with Bill Clinton.
We're going to address how she ever had top secret classified special access program information in this mom-and-pop shop bathroom closet to avoid congressional oversight.
We're going to deal with subpoenaed emails being deleted and acid-washed and bleach-bit and bashing up Blackberries and devices with hammers.
It's all coming up.
We're going to deal with how Peter struck a Trump-hating activist and his girlfriend, who is Andrew McCabe's attorney in the FBI, their hatred.
We're going to deal with what the insurance policy is, whatever that was.
We're going to deal with Comey's testimony where he personally tried to get the special counsel by leaking information, classified or protected information that he has with the president.
That's privileged information.
You're not allowed to leak it to your friend that works at Columbia in the hopes that you can get a special counsel.
And then we're going to deal with the issue of exoneration before investigation because Comey said under oath that he didn't know where he was going with the Clinton investigation until the investigator talked to Hillary.
Well, they talked to Hillary on the 4th of July weekend.
And the first business day back, they exonerated her after a 13-minute and a half-minute takedown of her about all the crimes she had committed.
And remember, all of these people did this to keep her in a presidential race.
A woman that we now know fixed the primary.
We now know had her criminal activities covered up, rigged, and that case is fixed.
Now we found out after a year's worth of digging that, yeah, she paid for the Russian dossier full of these salacious BS stories about Donald Trump, including Russian government sources.
We know that nobody verified, nobody corroborated it, and it became the basis of a lie that was presented to a FISA court in a FISA application to spy on an American citizen who was associated with the Trump campaign so they could spy through that associate in the entire Trump campaign so that they can rig this general election with lies and Russian propaganda.
And then, of course, it gets renewed three other times after 90 days.
A lot of people have a lot of explaining to do, Rod Rosenstein.
And then, of course, all of these things happen.
And the boomerang impact of all of this is everybody thought this was going to end Trump-Russia collusion when the only collusion here was Hillary Clinton and the FBI, upper echelon, not rank-and-file.
I always make the distinction because I love rank-and-file FBI guys, and too bad they get tarnished because of the corruption of people at the top, which, by the way, in truth, most FBI guys don't like the top brass, just to be honest.
And at least they tell me.
And so all of this is just the opposite of a coordinated conspiracy theory and lie that the media and Democrats have perpetrated.
And now they're whining after 14 months.
No, give us another 14 months.
We'll find it eventually.
No, that's not going to happen.
And let me make a prediction.
Either Jeff Sessions appoints a special counsel and soon, or somebody else has got to.
He's got to get out of the way because his recusal citing the wrong law caused all of this.
We need a special counsel.
All right, Sean Hannity show on a breaking news day, 800-941.
Sean, if you want to be a part of the program, as if long before Donald Trump ever ran for president, the idea that, well, Donald Trump may have had a non-binding, let's pay very close attention to that word, non-binding letter of intent for a potential project in Moscow.
Now, he did run his Miss Universe contest or whatever he was running over there at the time.
And I think what's happening here is this.
I'm pretty convinced that Mueller's strategy with all of his friends, the Democratic donors, I mean, it's a who's who's list of, you know, donating to Obama, Clinton, and the DNC.
And I'm just pretty convinced that Mueller and his guys, yeah, we can just provoke the president.
We'll piss him off.
He'll tweet about us and everything.
And then we can go after him for his tweet.
That's what we'll do.
And maybe he'll even try and fire us.
And it'll be like a Saturday night massacre.
They're purposely now going into areas that they were never, and this is where Rod Rosenstein comes in.
And this is where Jeff Sessions drives me insane.
Because Jeff Sessions, if he knew ahead of time that being a part of the Trump campaign would have caused a recusal on these issues, then he never should have taken the job as the attorney general.
Because but for that recusal, Rod Rosenstein, Mueller's friend, Comey's friend, everybody involved in this friend would never have been involved in this.
But I'm telling you, something big is unfolding even as we speak here.
There is a panic that has set in as it relates to the Inspector General report.
And the panic is only starting.
Now, my one suspicion is that, okay, are they only going to make this about Andrew McCabe?
Andrew McCabe did not act in a vacuum here and is not responsible for the Hillary Clinton email, the horrible investigation.
Comey's up to his eyeballs too, as is Strzz and Page.
And Strzz and Page still have a job.
Loretta Lynch at the tarmac meeting, we've got to get to the bottom of that.
And then we haven't even touched the dossier.
We haven't touched the unmasking scandal, a 350% increase.
We haven't touched the leaking of raw intelligence issues.
And yeah, we got a Uranium One asset that had penetrated Putin's network in America.
He's got an awful lot to say, too.
And I am getting heads up that John Solomon has big breaking news that Comey was warned in 2014 about FISA abuses.
All right, 25 to the top of the hour.
I'm going to be honest.
I have just about had it with all of this crap.
I really have.
I've had it with the fake phony news in this country and the lies that they have told you.
I've had it with Robert Mueller and his band of big Democratic donors and this witch hunt that has been going on with him.
And what he is now, look, he's, listen, he has expanded this probe to go so far out of what his original mandate in.
And I'll tell you, I think in large part, he knows there's no collusion.
So let's see if we can provoke Trump into getting pissed off and saying he's had enough and maybe he'll fire him and accomplish, you know, everybody's attention will go away from real crimes that we have now discovered that have been committed on a level that we can't even fathom in this country.
It's unbelievable.
And Mueller recycling, this is the new version of fake news that we get every night from the Washington Post, the New York Times, fake news, CNN, NBC, and it's like a leak every night at 7 o'clock.
But somewhere between 6 and 9 p.m., there's a phony leak or recycled story that they leak just to keep the Trump people off balance constantly.
How did he accomplish as much as he's accomplished?
Forget about focusing in on keeping the country safe and secure.
Forget about North Korea, China, Russia, and everything else.
Let's focus in on Donald Trump 24-7 and Trump-Russia collusion, even though we're now 18 months into this garbage and there's no evidence, but yet we have evidence of Hillary Clinton doing a whole variety of things.
We know she committed felonies.
We know she fixed a primary.
We know that they literally exonerated her and rigged an investigation.
We know that she finally found out she paid for the Russian dossier.
So there was Russian lies to influence the election.
She bought them.
She paid for them.
She disseminated it through Fusion GPS and Perkins Cooey, where they funneled the money so it would never show up that Fusion GPS.
They learned that little trick from Obama.
So now they go ahead and they release this thing.
Well, the Trump organization points out immediately, sorry, Mr. Mueller, but we have disclosed everything you have been asking for since July of 2017.
And still Mueller goes out with his band of Democratic friends and they continue to leak, leak, leak.
Now, in spite of that, I do have a little hope in the Inspector General.
I mean, he's the one guy, Horowitz, who gave us the paid-struck text messages, but we only got some of them.
We didn't get all of them.
And that's another issue that exists that is irritating me.
Sarah Carter, who's joining us at the top of the hour, has more on this.
You know, there's been two months now.
The FBI has failed to abide by a judge's order to turn over all former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe's text messages, emails, you know, and other text messages to, well, of course, the group is Judicial Watch, which has put in the FOIA request for all this information.
They've done a great job, too, in all of this.
Tom Fitton will check in also with Sarah.
Anyway, the communications in question are related to, let's see, McCabe's wife.
Oh, the $700,000 for a Virginia state Senate race.
This is an unprecedented amount of money.
And by the way, McCabe's wife got the money raised through Terry McCullough.
Well, who's Terry McAuliffe?
If you don't know, that's one of the Clintons' best friends.
Just like the dossier is being influenced by Sid Vicious Blumenthal and Cody Shearer.
I mean, Clinton's tentacles are all over everything involving this whole thing.
Why wouldn't the FBI turn over this information?
Why are they slow walking this?
You know, the biggest offense in all of this is Rod Rosenstein, right?
And this goes back to the stupid recusal of Jeff Sessions.
I like Jeff Sessions, but boy, has he been God awful in all of this?
And if he wasn't going to be able to do his job and he knew it going in, why did he even put himself in that position?
Because Rod Rosenstein getting on his hands and knees, begging Paul Ryan, please, please don't let us tell the Intel community the truth because the deadline is at midnight tonight and we don't want to turn over all these documents.
Well, those are the documents that led to the Nunes memo, which led to the Grassley Graham memos that told us all of this information about the Clinton bought and paid for dossier and the FISA abuse.
I mean, the idea that Clinton's bought and paid for dossier is used as the bulk of information to get a previously denied FISA application to spy on a Trump campaign associate.
And through that one subpoena and that one application, it gave them a window into all of the Trump campaign's dealings.
So this is an opposition party candidate.
The FBI broke not only the FISA law, but remember, they took this in-house at the top, so it's not rank-and-file, guys, but they took that investigation into Clinton's email server.
They had all of this information, and they purposely withheld crucial information on four separate occasions, the original FISA application, the three subsequent renewals applications that they put in.
Rod Rosenstein is aware of all of this, and he plays a part in all of this, yet he's the guy that appointed Mueller.
And all I see is Mueller recycling his old news to leak against Donald Trump.
And I'm asking, where the hell is Mueller if he cares about Trump-Russia collusion?
Why has if he's going to expand his mandate, expand it into the FISA abuse, the dossier, the Russian lies, the Russian government lies that Hillary bought and paid for?
I'm getting sick of all of this.
And the media, of course, ignores it all.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
One of the biggest and most unbelievable revelations in this new book that is coming out by, what, Izakoff and David Korn, it was a blast from our past, has to do with the fact that even Christopher Steele, by the way, he's not an American citizen and he's trying to influence our elections.
Where is Mueller looking into him?
Why don't you go and look at the sources that he had, which were Russian sources?
He didn't even believe the Hooker's peeing in the bed story of Donald Trump's bet in the Ritz Carlton in Moscow.
He didn't even buy his own story.
Now, the FBI, as a matter of law, if they're going to present information to a FISA court, that information has to be independently verified by them.
Now, Glenn Simpson, I didn't verify it.
He just facilitated Hillary's money to Christopher Steele to get the fake, phony, fraudulent information.
Then he wouldn't tell us who paid for the dossier.
And we had to fight and literally every step of the way to find out it was Hillary.
You know, by the way, and they funnel the money.
They don't go directly.
The campaign funnels the money through a law firm.
So it shows up on election forums as, oh, legal fees.
It's not legal fees.
This is paid for Russian propaganda.
So they funnel it through Perkins Cooey.
And by the way, the same thing was done by Obama against poor Mitt Romney back in 2012.
It just wasn't $12 million.
It was only $3 million.
Then we find out one of the star witnesses of Robert Mueller, all roads lead back to Clinton in this whole thing.
You know, this relationship.
I forget who wrote this.
I got to give attribution.
I forget where I saw this.
I apologize, whoever wrote this.
This guy, George Nader, in his last-ditched effort to make Russia a collusion, his dreams come true.
But apparently that's another friend of Bill Clinton's.
I mean, you can't make this up.
Now, there's a report that has been running around for the last 24 hours that Trump plans to fire Sessions.
Well, I can tell you through my sources, that's not true.
Trump understands that he can't fire Sessions at this critical point in time.
And Mueller knows it as well.
And all Mueller's doing is poking and prodding and poking and prodding and hoping to get reaction because obviously there's no evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
And this is a big deal.
And, you know, when, what's it that Greg Jarrett last night tells me that Jeff Sessions actually cited the wrong law when he recused himself.
He had told me this before and I forgot about it.
I'm like, oh my God.
And that was back in March of 2017.
You know, Jeff Sessions announced he's going to recuse himself.
He was just approved as the AG.
I mean, that's unbelievable, which gives Rod Rosenstein, who also knew about the dossier, also was involved in the renewal applications himself.
You cannot have people up to their eyeballs in this crap investigating this crap.
And if we don't get another special counsel soon, you cannot expect anything good to come out of this.
And that's where the corruption runs so deep and so wide.
And from Comey to Mueller to, you know, Comey leaking, you know, privileged information to the Columbia guy to get Mueller as a special counsel.
And Sessions gets out and Rosenstein comes in and Rosenstein knows all about this crap.
It's unbelievable.
Anyway, Sessions made the announcement that he would recuse himself the day after he's sworn in as the Attorney General.
Whose advice did he receive?
He got advice from Obama lawyers in the Department of Justice.
You cannot make this up.
I couldn't write a novel like this.
Anyway, then we have Greg Jarrett pointed out to me last night, Sessions used the wrong law when he announced his recusal.
And as he put last night, he betrayed the president.
He knew when he was sworn in that he was going to recuse himself the next day, and he put his recusal in motion.
He never told the president.
You're not serving the country or the president by doing that.
Because all of this stems from that bad decision.
All of it.
And then, of course, you got the Democrats.
You got this idiot, Adam Shiftless Schiff.
Try saying that one three times fast.
Good luck with that on radio.
Thank God for delays.
Shiftless Schiff.
I got it.
I'm doing really well.
That's enough.
Don't do it anymore.
Nobody, you have no faith in God.
I am a professional broadcaster.
I've been in radio 30 years.
Thank you very much.
Tim Fate.
Apparently I'm Tim Think Fate.
I mean, this guy is Mark Levin said it the other night.
He's literally Mueller's hitman after Trump.
275 TV appearances.
Oh, we've got the evidence.
We got the evidence.
It's all there.
It's all there.
I can't tell you now, but I'll tell you later.
It's coming.
And there's nothing.
And then after 14 months, oh, if we elect the Democrats, I'll reopen the investigation.
Let's have another 18 months of this crap and distract the country away from its problems.
And I'm going to tell you something.
This is only the beginning.
And then you got Clapper.
I'd love to know what Brennan and Ben Rhodes' role and Susan Rice's role in all of this is ultimately going to be.
Anyway, Andrew McCabe, you know, now is to be fired days ahead of his retirement.
But remember, Clapper leaked about the Obama dossier to CNN.
And then he complained about the leaking that was happening when he did it.
You can't make that up either.
And what you've got is a huge, massive, total reversal of everything that the media has covered has been wrong.
Everybody that is guilty of the same things they say that we should all be outraged about, they themselves and their cohorts in the Democratic Party, because they're just nothing but an extension.
And the press, basically the press office of all things liberal, all things Hillary, all things Democrat, is just to regurgitate the same lies.
And I'll give you another example.
You know, here is Barack Obama.
He was warned in 2014 about Russian interference.
It's happened in past elections.
It has happened.
And then this is Obama talking about, oh, no serious person could ever believe Russia.
There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's elections in part because they're so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved.
There's no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which that will happen this time.
And so I'd advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.
Yeah, stop whining.
No serious person could ever believe that.
Well, today the president imposed new sanctions on Russia and organizations and individuals tied to the malicious cyber attacks in the U.S. Obama was told that he didn't do anything, and he said it couldn't happen.
And last year, the president, President Trump, signed legislation imposing punitive sanctions on Russia for belligerent activities, including human rights abuses.
It's President Trump that is now taking away Russian energy business by making America energy independent.
The U.S. now joined France and Germany and Britain in saying that Russia was likely responsible for the chemical attacks against a former spy.
Nikki Haley is warning that Russia could use chemical weapons in New York.
And sadly, under Obama, we've seen the U.S. military is over a decade behind China and Russia on space defense.
Oh, why didn't Obama do it?
Oh, because no serious person would ever believe that.
Tell Vladimir I'll have more flexibility after the election.
No, tell Vladimir.
Okay.
Tell him.
Yeah.
Yeah, but don't tell anybody else.
I never felt that I was involved in something nefarious the whole way through, from the beginning to the end.
So you can understand the frustration of the president when he's told he's not under investigation.
I think you know the story of Andrew McCabe that walked into my office, shut my door, and basically told me that the New York Times story that was in the paper that first came out in February that said there are constant contacts between the Trump campaign and the Russians, with the door closed, looked at me and said, I want you to know that this story right here is total BS.
It's overstated, and it's not true.
This is the deputy director of the FBI.
I didn't know who he was.
It's the middle of February.
And so everyone's in this world where we're being told one thing and sort of operating in this other world of constant obsession by the media.
I'm still trying to figure out why three FBI agents are discussing politics in the deputy director's office because you're not supposed to discuss politics on federal ground and FBI agents aren't supposed to engage in politics for hatch act reasons.
Remember, we were supposed to interview Andy McCabe yesterday on another committee.
It was all set up and ready to go.
And then at the last minute, they said, ah, he can't come Tuesday.
He's going to come next week.
I'll be shocked if he comes next week.
I'll be a little bit surprised if he's still an employee of the FBI this time next week.
There are other text messages that have yet to be turned over to Congress.
You know, and separately, we knew there were text messages to be had.
We sued back in September for the text messages of the number two at the FBI, Andrew McCabe.
And they just told us this week, they gave us everything they were going to give us, and not one text message was turned over.
Have they lost all of Andrew McCabe's text messages?
I don't believe it.
There's still gameship going on.
I haven't heard this before.
Now the FBI is saying they have no text messages from Andrew McCabe.
Is that the latest?
They have not turned over any text messages.
They said they gave us everything they're going to give us.
We asked specifically for text messages.
We represent a former FBI supervisory agent in this lawsuit.
He knows what to ask for.
And they told us essentially, you're not getting any text messages because they gave us everything they're going to give us.
Okay.
Where are Andrew McCabe's text messages?
Where are James Comey's text messages?
Well, what is Director Ray doing?
He's defending Andrew McCabe.
He's protecting Strzok.
He's protecting Lisa Page.
In the ordinary course, those three individuals would be removed from FBI headquarters in the least.
So there's a real problem with the leadership of the FBI.
Either Ray is oblivious or complicit.
Either way, we need strong action and pressure on the FBI to clean out its ranks at the leadership level that has allowed this, for instance, this scam to go on, obstructing Congress, obstructing the courts and the text message issue, and maybe obstructing justice in terms of withholding and trying to hide these text messages and other documents.
Remember, it's this Justice Department that fought tooth and nail in terms of turning over this dossier information, which by all accounts shows that they lied to the courts.
Jeff Sessions has got to take stronger action here.
And if Rod Rosenstein isn't going to do it, they should find someone who will.
Rosenstein's responsible for this.
He runs the operations of the Justice Department day to day.
The FBI reports to him in the ordinary course.
There's got to be accountability.
We've got to start calling these individuals out.
I don't know what.
All right, that's pretty profound in light of today's news.
Reince Prievis, McCabe told me Russia investigation was BS.
Seems like a lot of lying going on between a lot of people and Tom Fitton.
Well, where are Andrew McCabe and Comey's text messages?
Well, that's a good question, too, or any emails that they might have had together.
Joining us now, Sarah Carter, investigative reporter, Fox News contributor Tom Fitton is the president of Judicial Watch.
And of course, we have this issue of Andrew McCabe and what's gone down earlier today, that the director met with the senior DOJ officials and making his final case to keep his job, which we don't think is happening at all.
Sarah, what's the latest?
Well, the latest is that McCabe is making his case before the Department of Justice.
It's part of the Office of Professional Responsibility.
It's the process, part of the process that takes place when you're terminating an employee.
I've spoken to a number of sources today.
I've been told that he won't be able to make his case, that he will be terminated from his job.
It'll be interesting to see what evolves from this meeting that took place.
Look, I think McCabe, this is a small part of what we've seen here in recent reports that he possibly misled investigators and that he was responsible for a leak to the Wall Street Journal is just a sliver, I was told, of what will be coming out on McCabe and the Inspector General's investigation.
This is only a very, very small part.
So we have to assume right now, based on the recommendation from OPR, Sean, think about this.
OPR, there's a lot of people inside OPR.
They always investigate themselves who are very close friends with McCabe.
I've been told from my sources.
So for them to make the recommendation that he be terminated, this was a recommendation not by the president, not by the DOJ.
This was a recommendation by the FBI to have him terminated is highly significant, and it means that possibly something more is there that we are not aware of right now.
But you also had a piece out today how the FBI is skirting an order to turn over McCabe's communications.
And the other thing I think we've got to throw out here, I'm beginning to wonder the only one that seems to be impacted at all by the pending IG report is Andrew McCabe.
Now, I know that there are a lot of other people that should, in fact, be impacted by the IG report, assuming that the job was done correctly, if it was really an investigation into the exoneration of Hillary before an investigation.
Remember, James Comey had said when he testified that he didn't make up his mind until after he talked to Hillary Clinton, that person that talked to her ended up being Peter Strzok, but he and Peter Strzzok were writing an exoneration in May, and they never talked to her until July.
Yeah, absolutely.
And so they're going to be looking at this going way back.
This Inspector General's report, and I'm going to stress again, it's not just one report.
These are multiple investigations that have been conducted by Horowitz.
And I don't think the media has picked up on this yet.
We've reported on this in the past on your show.
These are multiple investigations, and very little has leaked out.
McCabe will not be the only one named in these reports.
You can bet that Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, Comey will all be named in there among other officials.
It would not surprise me if there has not been referrals for criminal investigations already.
Now, remember, the Inspector General can look at the whole institution and see how that is operating and write this report.
But if he finds any evidence of criminal wrongdoing, he would have to refer that, refer that to the DOJ for prosecution.
So I don't think we will be surprised if something like that happens here.
This was a very intensive investigation.
And you're also right about those text messages, Sean.
And I'm sure Tom Finton will talk about that at length because it was Judicial Watch who, along with Jeff Gannig, had fought to get these text messages, emails, because it will reveal timelines of how things took place with McCabe.
So far, they have not received those.
Well, what about that?
And I thought you wrote a great column about it.
And, Tom, you've done a terrific job with all these Freedom of Information Act requests, but the FBI still refuses to turn over a court order to turn over the McCabe communications.
And they waited till the last minute to turn over the communications that ended up being inside the Nunes memo.
Why do we have to wait a year every time we need some information?
Why can't there be instant cooperation?
That's far from the course.
I mean, even this process that Sarah describes, they're waiting to the last minute to move against McCabe.
They've been on notice for six weeks plus as to McCabe's misconduct in terms of allegedly lying about leaks, among other things.
You know, we're representing a retired supervisory FBI agent, Jeff Danik, who asked for the text messages of McCabe.
He knows where they are.
He knows they can be gotten.
And they've basically, they've given us zero text messages, zero text messages from this FBI, and we've pushed back on them.
And it's basically go jump in a lake.
It's hard to describe the contempt and arrogance we're getting from the FBI on the McCabe text messages, on the Lisa Page and Peter Strzzok text messages.
We now know there are text messages about the tarmac meeting that were withheld from Judicial Watch.
We said, well, what's going on there?
And they said, we're not going to tell you anything.
That's unbelievable.
This is Chris Ray's FBI.
Chris Wright, unfortunately, as FBI director, has been more concerned about protecting the reputation of the agency rather than cleaning out the corruption.
It really is unbelievable.
I want to go back to the Inspector General report, Sarah, and your point about multiple investigations.
And as it relates, what are the specific areas?
We know the Clinton email server investigation of the investigation is going on.
What else do we know?
Well, we definitely know that the entire aspect of the investigation into Hillary Clinton's email server, her use of that to send classified information, is being thoroughly investigated.
And remember, they have to break that out into parcel and pieces.
They're going to be looking at Comey.
They're going to be looking at the tarmac meeting.
They're going to be looking at decisions that were made.
They are also going to be looking at insurance policy.
Remember those text messages?
What did that mean?
What did you say by insurance policy?
They're going to be looking at, and they are looking at, the interviews that were conducted with General Flynn, for example, by Peter Strzok and his involvement with the Hillary campaign and how he interviewed her and his oversight over that and McCabe's oversight over that.
And when did McCabe actually recuse himself?
I think Judicial Watch did a phenomenal job when they actually got those emails that reflected that McCabe never really pulled himself out of the investigation until a week before the elections.
That was incredible.
And that was important information.
All right, stay right there.
We've got to take a break.
We'll come back.
And then we have to ask about the dossier.
And then we have to ask about the FISA abuses.
And, you know, of course, we now have the informant in the Uranium One case.
This never ends.
What about the Mueller subpoena of the Trump organization demanding documents about Russia?
What do we know about that today, Tom Finton?
Well, it would just show that the Mueller operation continues to be out of control.
It's now a year plus after the investigation, almost a year after they initially, after Mueller was appointed.
We still have no evidence of Russia collusion.
I've called the Mueller investigation a zombie investigation.
We just had the Republicans say the other day on the House Intelligence Committee, they reviewed the information.
There's no evidence of Russia collusion.
Why is Mueller still operating?
I object to this process.
I think the president should object more specifically to the process because it's an abuse.
There's no other investigation in the DOJ that has as much resources devoted to it than this Russia investigation.
At least they're asking the Trump organization for information as opposed to going in and taking photographs of Paul Manafort's suits, going to the Seychelles and all over the Middle East, looking for anything they can get to bring Donald Trump down.
This is a partisan investigation, and the bias we're talking about with Andrew McCabe is their present in the Mueller investigation.
Andrew Weissman, the number two, is an anti-Trump partisan.
And the fact that he's still there and the fact that Mueller had Peter Strzok removed and didn't tell anyone about it for four months just shows you how incredible this smaller investigation is.
What is your take on that?
Because what I had been hearing is that they were supposedly wrapping up and maybe had a few questions to ask the president, and that that was the ongoing negotiation, apparently, between the president, his lawyers, and the special counsel.
Sarah.
I think they've been whistling past the graveyard as to thinking that this investigation is going to end, and the president needs to take strong action to object to the abuse of power and waste of resources.
Sarah?
What's happened here is now we're going to be seeing several months of continuous special counsel ongoings.
I mean, in investigations, they can't ask for all of these documents and then not research them thoroughly, right?
So if they're looking for documentation from the Trump organization, imagine that.
Imagine how long this is going to last.
I would even suspect that this is going to go right into the midterm elections.
And this is something that is very concerning.
I think this is why when we're asking for a special counsel for the investigation into the FISA abuse scandal, into what happened with the Hillary Clinton email server, whatever that may be, wherever they're going to take that, they've got to find somebody outside of Washington, somebody who has clean hands on both sides, somebody who neither the Democrats nor the Republicans will be able to say anything about.
This is that important, that important, because look at what's happening here.
I mean, it's starting to look like a three-ring circus, and it looks like they're in search of a crime, which it appears, it appears that they're doing.
We've never seen any evidence of Russia-Trump collusion, and we've seen the indictments against Paul Manafort and others, and Flynn, none of which have anything to do with Russia collusion.
So now I think they're looking like they're in search of a crime, and that's a really big problem.
All right.
Thank you both.
Tom Fitt and Sarah Carter, 800.
We'll have more on this breaking news tonight on Hannity on the Fox News channel.
Governor Mike Huckabee weighs in on all of this and more at our news roundup information overload hour coming up straight ahead.
But it is wonderful to be back in this great state and to push all of the historic tax cuts.
You know, this was about the first place I announced that we were going to be asking for massive tax cuts, and everybody said it'll never happen, hasn't happened since Ronald Reagan to any scale, and it didn't even come close since then.
And we got it not only passed, but bigger than anything ever passed in the history of our country.
And we're now going for a phase two.
We're actually going for a phase two, which will help, in addition, the middle class, will help companies, and it's going to be something I think very special.
Kevin Brady is working on it with me.
Congress is working, the Senate's working.
And unfortunately, on the original, we didn't have one Democrat vote, which is pretty incredible.
And now they're regretting it.
But we're going to do a phase two, and it's going to be something I think that will really be a big incentive to do a lot of things just like we're doing right here, and a tremendous incentive for the workers.
All right, that's the president talking about phase two of the tax cuts, which, by the way, is only going to help further create more jobs and prosperity in America.
And we're already seeing a huge impact in a lot of different ways.
Anyway, Governor Mike Huckabee is with us, former presidential candidate, former Arkansas governor.
How are you, sir?
Welcome back to the program.
Always great to have you.
Well, thank you, Sean.
Always a pleasure to be visiting.
And I appreciate the fact that you have relentlessly tried to bring some perspective and truth to this whole idea of Russian collusion, which so far not a shred of evidence exists that the Trump organization or Donald Trump personally had a thing to do with it.
You know, that to me is the most unbelievable thing.
And after 14 months, it was so funny.
Megan McCain, God bless her, was on the view and had, you know, shiftless Adam Schiff on with her.
This guy's had over 275 TV appearances, and all he has done is laid out lies and innuendo.
And then when confronted, okay, you've had 14 months, give us the evidence.
He's like, well, it's already out there in the public arena.
Here, let me play it for you.
You said you had more than circumstantial evidence of treasonous collusion with Russia.
What specifically were you referring to?
And please be specific, because if it's true, I do believe Americans have the right to know a year later what that is.
Well, I certainly said that there's ample evidence of collusion.
I've never used the word treason.
Only Steve Bannon has used that word.
But if you look at the facts that are already in the public domain, they're pretty damning.
Is it enough for Mueller to bring charges?
Because if it isn't enough for Mueller to bring charges, what does that mean?
Well, what it means that this is a very important question, and that is what's Mueller's job and what's our job?
Bob Mueller will make the decision whether there is proof beyond reasonable doubt to indict and convict people.
It is not his responsibility to tell the country what happened.
Yeah, it actually would be his mandate and responsibility.
So what he's basically saying, so there won't be any evidence that we can indict anybody on any collusion, but we're going to insinuate it happened anyway.
And we've discovered that the only real collusion happened with Hillary's campaign, paying for Russian lies and propaganda so she could fix a general election after we know she fixed the primary election, Governor.
It's interesting.
Every time I hear Adam Schiff at the end of whether it's the congressional investigation or whatever report has come out, he always says, but, you know, there's still more that we are having to look for.
I'm convinced Adam Schiff is the guy still looking for Bigfoot, Sasquatch, and the unicorn.
I think you're probably right.
He's going to be looking.
But he never finds it because if it could be found, I'm pretty sure that Adam Schill, I'll call him a Schill for the left, he would have found it by now.
There's just no evidence, and nobody has been able to come forward and say, you know, we've got some smoke here.
There's got to be fire.
There's not even the smoke yet.
So, Sean, I want it to be a clean country where our politicians do the right things.
But we can't afford to have a country where our process of the government is upended by people who won't let their political bitterness go and allow a duly elected public official to do the job to which he was entrusted.
And that's what we're seeing.
It's been an attempt to undermine President Trump from the get-go.
And we've never seen anything like this in our lifetime.
And it's ongoing.
And it's almost universal.
It's almost everybody in the news media.
And, you know, I'm going to tell you something, Governor.
I spend a lot of time now doing more reporting than I've ever done in my career.
And we have a great team we've assembled, you know, Sarah Carter and John Solomon and Greg Jarrett and Tom Fitton and Jay Seculo has been amazing too.
And there are others I'm going to forget some.
Dr. Gork has been great.
And I would argue that we break more news on this radio program and more news on my television program.
And we have real evidence of what happened, who paid for the phony Russian dossier.
We've broken more stories about a Pfizer warrant that was issued in spite of many denials.
We have broken the fact that there was an exoneration of Hillary after she committed many felonies before they even did an investigation.
And the rest of the media, I mean, almost everybody, exclusively in journalism, totally ignores it.
Well, when 91% of all the coverage of President Trump is negative, there's no objective person alive who could possibly say that that is a representative reporting of what has actually happened in his presidency.
I get it that people don't like Trump.
I get it that some people think he's vulgar or he's crude or his past is somehow relevant to what he's doing as president.
I get all of that.
But it comes down to this.
The media says Donald Trump has attacked the media.
No, the media has attacked their own credibility by proving that they're not objective about this administration.
They do not want to report and let people decide.
They want to steer people to a particular point of view.
That's not journalism.
That's editorialism.
And we have lost the idea of journalism.
What do you make of what's going on with Vladimir Putin and Great Britain and Russia vowing revenge and the Prime Minister May kicking out 23 Russian spies from the UK and blasting Vladimir Putin's contempt for the Salisbury poisoning?
I mean, we have all of that.
Nikki Haley yesterday warning that Russia could use chemical weapons in New York, which is pretty scary.
There was a report that has come out that the U.S. military over a decade behind China and Russia as it relates to space defense.
I'm getting really concerned that America is taking its eye off the ball here.
I think the equal point, though, is that Vladimir Putin is isolating himself from the civilized world.
Actions like this one that happened in the U.K., the fact that the world is standing up to him, not just Theresa May, but today the Trump administration put out new sanctions.
So if he's colluding with Russia, why is he punishing them so abruptly and so harshly?
I do know one thing.
If I ever do go to Moscow, I'm not having dinner with Vladimir Putin.
And if I do, I'm taking a food taster, somebody I don't like who's going to eat it first, and then I'll decide whether to put my fork in the food.
I mean, it's pretty scary.
But the president today did something that, well, people on the left said he wasn't going to do, and that is that he's gone directly after Russia as it relates to what they have been engaged in, and that means sanctions against trying to influence our elections and so discord in the country.
And it's amazing because he's the one that's doing it, and yet he's the one who's been accused of colluding.
And it was Barack Obama that was lecturing him.
You remember when Obama said this before the election and was lecturing Donald Trump and telling him to stop whining and no serious person would ever believe they could impact our elections?
There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's elections.
In part because they're so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved.
There's no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which that will happen this time.
And so I'd invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.
Well, I remember it very vividly.
I also remember Obama leaning over, thinking he was off mic and patting the knee of the Soviet president between the two Putin terms and saying to them, after the election, I'll have a lot more flexibility.
And he never told us what was that flexibility?
What is it he was going to do that was so doggone flexible?
And did he, in fact, do it?
Is that why we have the Russian interference in our election?
He just looked the other way.
We know that the biggest thing that the Obama administration did was when Obama said these guys need to cut it out.
Now, that was a real, real threat.
I mean, the only thing that would make that tougher would have been that if he'd sent a letter, a strongly worded letter, that would have scared him, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Are you as concerned about Mueller and the team that Mueller has put together as I am?
I mean, the latest information leaked today is: oh, Mueller has subpoenaed the Trump organization demanding documents about Russia.
None of this is connected in any way to the campaign.
And I'm just trying to understand where this guy is going and why this guy would hire only people that donated to Hillary Obama, the DNC.
Why would he make his, as the New York Times calls him, Mueller's pit bull, a guy like Andrew Weissman, who cost tens of thousands of Americans their jobs at Anderson Accounting?
He was overturned by the Supreme Court 9-0.
He put Merrill executives in jail for a year.
That was overturned by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals.
He's best friends with Mueller.
But with that track record, why would Bob Mueller hire Andrew Weissman ever?
It's hard to say.
And I think as troubling as it is with the team that he's assembled, it's that there seems to be a singular focus on anything that Donald Trump may have done and a complete, and we don't know.
Maybe he is looking at what Hillary did and the fact that all those emails showed up on Anthony Weiner's laptop or that she had a private server or that she deleted 33,000 emails, things for which other people, including a young sailor, went to prison.
Maybe he's looking at that.
But if he is, it's been the best kept secret in Washington.
And Sean, there are no secrets in Washington.
Well, I just, at some point, Governor, with 14 months and no evidence that's been presented, and they're looking at everybody's financial deals going back to 2005 of the case of Paul Manafort.
I have no idea what his business dealings were with the Ukraine, but he literally worked for Trump for three months.
And I got to be honest, I can't for the life of me figure out how we had the unmasking of General Flynn illegal and then the illegal leaking of raw intelligence on General Flynn.
That seems to have set up a perjury trap for him.
And he has to plead guilty to lying or maybe misremembered.
I don't know.
My recollection isn't, I couldn't even tell you who's on my show yesterday.
And I'm just trying to think.
I mean, this is how this country treats you after 35 years of service.
I'm like, wow.
The Flynn tragedy to me is one of the great ones because he has been an honorable public servant, put his life on the line for this country on numerous occasions, had a very honorable career in the military.
And it's the classic example where people say if a federal prosecutor really wants to, they could indict a ham sandwich.
And what they're saying by that is that there's always some technicality upon which a federal prosecutor can find a way to come after you.
With Martha Stewart, for example, it was that she didn't have complete memory and recall in what she'd said to the FBI.
So they got her on a similar thing of lying to the FBI.
It wasn't insider trading, which was what they went after.
It was something totally unrelated.
I think that's what ought to scare every American.
If our own government decides to target us and they come after us and they have unlimited resources with which to attack us, and the net result is they ruin our lives, put us in prison, destroy our families, cost us our homes and our reputations, what kind of government do we have that would do that to us?
You know, it's funny you say that.
I have friends in the FBI.
I love these guys.
I don't know if you know my background.
My mother was, she worked in a prison.
She was a prison guard.
My father worked in family court probation.
All right, quick break.
We'll come back.
We'll continue with Governor Mike Huckabee and much more straight ahead on the Sean Hannity show.
Governor Mike Huckabee is with us, former presidential candidate, former Arkansas governor.
I will tell you, I just have great respect for law enforcement, not the top echelon that I think has abused power, especially FISA abuses.
But, you know, I asked him one day after the Martha Stewart case, we had a long discussion.
I said, so let me understand this.
If you don't perfectly remember something and you really, your inclination is to always want to help the FBI, you're saying that no matter what the circumstances, that you should never talk to the FBI.
And he goes, absolutely not.
And I'm like, I said, that goes against every inclination as an American that loves the FBI that I would ever have.
And he said, absolutely not.
What does that tell you?
Well, it tells us that our government has an extraordinary level of power.
And that when they want to weaponize that power and use it for political purposes, you know, the best thing for us to do is to stay out of the way.
Never help load a gun pointed at your own head.
And that's why I think the advice that that FBI agent gave you was good advice.
If you, you know, it's the classic thing of reading the Miranda rights, everything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
Our congressional solidary walk-up is here to say, enough is enough.
We need a vote now.
And it's common sense that we should get the assault rifles and the banana clips off the streets.
CNRA has made me public enemy number one, and I'm proud of it.
We're going to win.
I want to know: are you prepared to do whatever it takes to beat the gun lobby?
Are we going to ban assault weapons?
Are we going to have universal background checks?
Gun control!
Let go!
Go control!
Let it go!
Let's go!
At a time when people are asking Washington to do something, Congress actually took action today to not just do something, but to start addressing the problem with a strong bill, the Stop School Violence Act, that gives students, teachers, and law enforcement more tools to actively identify a potential shooter before a tragedy happens.
What we saw in Parkland was an example of so many breakdowns in government at the federal level with the FBI, at the local level, with local law enforcement.
When so many students knew this was going to happen, I think the thing that irritates people the most is that something wasn't done to stop it before it did happen.
And we need to focus on stopping those tragedies before they happen.
As Sheriff Rutherford said, I want to commend Sheriff Rutherford for his leadership to put a coalition together that was incredibly bipartisan.
What you saw today was a 407 to 10 vote to specifically start addressing the problem to stop school violence.
And I think that overwhelming bipartisan vote shows how serious this bill is.
And clearly, there are more things that need to be done.
But this is one of those things that actually gets to the heart of addressing the problem to stop school violence before a tragedy happens.
All right, so they have the Democrats pushing for gun control.
The students rally, but of course, all the Democrats, as we showed on TV last night, what did they have?
Armed security guards with them.
I mean, it's pretty amazing.
Steve Khalese on passing the Stop School Violence Act, it's getting a little closer, a little warmer to where it should be.
Joining us now, News Roundup Information Overload Hour, Jonathan Gillum, author of the newly released book, Bestseller Sheep, No More, Danielle McLaughlin, attorney, constitutional expert who co-wrote the Federalist Society, How Conservatives Took the Law Back from Liberals.
Welcome both of you.
Jonathan, you know, I keep going through this, and you would be like a perfect guy to go to any school in the country and do a threat and security assessment.
You're a Navy SEAL.
How many years are a Navy SEAL?
Five years.
All right, you've been an air marshal, right?
Yep.
And you've worked in law enforcement?
I was an FBI agent.
Okay, and what else have you done?
I mean, if five schools heard you on this show and said to you, Jonathan, would you come over?
We don't have any money, but we're looking for really smart people like you to give us a threat and security assessment.
Would you find the time to do it?
If they told me they don't have the money, yeah, I would do it.
Here's what I have a problem with, because I've already had this issue: schools, PTAs, and school boards are saying we're not going to spend the money because the likelihood of us ever having an attack is slim to none.
Yeah.
That's infuriating to me.
Now, if a school just can't afford it, I would do my best to get there and help them out.
I did threat assessments for Homeland Security as a contractor all over the country as a part of a side assist visit.
We were assaulters that were from all branches of the military and their special forces.
We think like attackers, and that's the problem.
They're not doing the threat assessments from the attacker's point of view.
And people don't realize that that is where you have to start.
You don't start at the Constitution.
You start at the ground level doing threat assessments.
Yeah, well, I think that's where we begin.
Exactly.
All right.
Let me ask Danielle McLaughlin.
Danielle, look, I know you're a liberal.
I understand.
I've asked you this question before, but I think for clarity, we've got to go over this again.
If, God forbid, you're in any municipal building and there's an active shooter in that building, would you prefer to know that there are armed, retired police and military guys there that would be willing to engage the shooter and prevent the loss of human life?
Would you prefer those circumstances?
I absolutely would, Sean.
Thanks for having me.
Nice to hear from you both.
But I think there's more to it than just having people who are armed in municipal buildings or schools.
I think this has to be multifaceted.
I think school hardening has its place.
But I think we also have to look at the gun show loophole.
We have to look at the background check loopholes.
We have to think about mental health.
And I think we have to have a really honest conversation about the number of guns in this country and the amount of violent crime we have.
And there's a direct correlation.
Yeah, well, excuse me, but the guns don't shoot themselves, right?
So you, I assume, are in the camp that you want to get rid of these AR-15s.
I think that there is an argument to be made that these were weapons that were originally imagined for wartime.
And Jonathan, I'd love to hear what you think about that.
I know there's a difference, obviously, between automatic and semi-automatic, but these machines cause such incredible harm.
And there was a countervaluation.
So we had 17 precious lives taken out in this particular case.
We've had all these other school shootings.
Do you know what weapon was used in the biggest mass school killing?
You know what kind of weapon was used there?
In the largest school killing.
I know it was AR-15s in Vegas, which 50 people killed.
No.
No, it was 32 people that were killed in Virginia Tech, and they were using a pistol in that case.
So following your argument that you got to get rid of AR-15s, then it would be logical.
The next thing you'd say is to get rid of pistols, right?
No, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
All right, so if you're going to keep—or you get rid of the AR-15s, then pistols are just as effective at killing people, right?
Well, not because they— No, they kind of are.
If somebody has evil in their heart and they want to kill innocent people, they're going to find a weapon.
And this is my point, Jonathan, is that that's not the answer.
But if people like Jonathan Gillum and other retired heroes, you have both backgrounds, military and law enforcement.
If you're there, I don't want you to be brandishing a semi-automatic or an automatic weapon, but you have concealed carry.
You're in a suit.
We have two security guards on every floor.
These instances are over in three minutes.
If you're not on the scene, I don't care how fast the police are.
They're not going to be able to save anybody.
I don't know if you've seen the videos of the safety officer or the sheriff's deputy down in Florida who didn't do anything.
But the fact is, Sean, if you lock the doors and you push people towards entrances that can be controlled, you wouldn't even have to put people on all floors of the schools.
We're not stopping people from getting into the schools.
But here's one thing that I have to say that after watching this walkout yesterday, which I am shocked at how many schools did not check with their parents.
They didn't clear this with the parents.
Even Christian schools here in New York, Catholic schools, they've never had walkouts to protest abortions.
They never had walkouts to protest the broken mental health system.
But yet they're going to walk out and they're going to, whether they say it or not, they are protesting the Second Amendment.
And it is beyond me how people in this country who are born free will immediately go after the bodyguard of all the other rights that we have in the Constitution, which is the Second Amendment.
And they want to alter that.
And there's a litmus test for this.
If it makes the government stronger, the centralized government stronger, or if it reduces the ability of the people to protect their rights, you cannot touch the Constitution.
And yet that is the first thing they go after.
And let me just say one other thing, Daniel, real quick, is that I have to commend the president because he entertains the other thought processes of the other politicians, such as raising the minimum age.
He entertains that.
He mulls it.
And I was angry.
And what I like about this president and the conservatives is that we can be angry at President Trump.
He should take that as something to be proud of because the left never questions their politicians.
And so when he kind of pulled back from that, I was very proud because it showed me that he's looking at alternatives, which are the basics.
Danielle, how do you respond to that?
Look, I think we need to look at this from a policy perspective and a legal perspective, right?
And it's not just schools.
It's movie theaters.
It's sports arenas.
Soft targets are everywhere.
Just walking down the street, right?
I'm in New York City.
This stuff can happen anywhere.
Number one, that's policy.
Number two, Hanson and Scalia, 2008, Halla versus DC versus Halla, like the Supreme Court case on the Second Amendment, the one that is currently valid, he said very clearly that the Second Amendment was meant for self-defense in the home, number one.
Number two, that it was not unlimited.
And then number three, he did talk and touch on, and this has not been brought up in the courts, but I guarantee you it's on its way, is whether weapons that were originally designed for use in military are covered by the Second Amendment.
And that's an open question, but that's a question that I guarantee you is going to be debated.
But again, your logic defies what you're saying because you say, all right, well, get rid of these weapons.
But the largest mass shooting in a school was done with a pistol.
So unless you really go for gun confiscation and the elimination of the Second Amendment, there really is no antidote to the problem of keeping kids safe here.
And if we really care about kids, maybe we should look at the videotapes, Jonathan, of all these politicians yesterday that spoke at all of these rallies, and they were all surrounded by armed guards.
I think our children at least deserve what we give our elected officials.
Exactly.
And see, they know that they have certain threats that are upon them wherever they go, so they have their security with them.
But yet, for some strange reason, when it comes to airports, we just pour security into one area.
It's kind of done wrong, but we still pour security in there.
When it comes to federal buildings, we pour security in there.
Same with banks.
Where else?
Banks, everything.
Airports, everywhere.
Anywhere where business is big and they're also incorporated with the government, you're going to see a hardened target.
But when it comes to schools, there's nothing.
And here's the thing, Danielle, that you have to pay attention to.
And all the people who are liberal out there need to pay attention to.
You're being used in the Democratic Party by leftists that really are communists in their thinking.
They're going after the Constitution.
They don't care about the guns.
They want to weaken the Constitution.
And that's evident in the stuff that they put out, the memes that they put out, where they have pictures of belt-fed, fully automatic weapons that no one can buy unless you're a gun dealer, or if you're in the military, you can use.
Those are the pictures that so many of Americans are seeing because these people are purposely skewing the vision through propaganda.
And I will say with you that I agree that I'm not interested in propaganda.
I'm not interested in someone saying a fully automatic AR-15 used in the military is freely available in this country because I know that it's not.
But we have to talk about the fact that there are more suicides that end in death because there are more guns.
There are toddlers shipping.
But they're going to kill themselves anyway.
Those people are going to kill themselves anyway.
The only thing we need to talk about is gun safety.
Why is it that we can't, on a state level, find a way of making guns a little bit more safe and secure in the home?
There are so many things that we could do.
It's not confiscation because I don't agree with confiscation.
We have a Second Amendment that will never happen and it never should.
But there has to be more we can do.
It's called personal responsibility, Danielle.
I mean, you're a very responsible person.
I am.
Sean is.
Everybody who works at this show is responsible people.
Why do we keep having to raise the age, keep having to change things?
Whatever happened to being a responsible American?
All right, we're going to take a break.
I think that's a great question.
Danielle, we'll let you answer on the other side.
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Jonathan Gillam and Danielle McLaughlin are with us.
You made a point, and you were asking Danielle.
What happened to personal responsibility?
Why can't people that want to be gun owners or that have the longing to be a gun owner just be responsible for this?
We have dumbed down the American people to the point where they have learned helplessness.
And we come up with these things like we need to improve safety in the home for guns.
A gun is not dangerous unless you load it and put your finger on the trigger.
And it's called responsibility.
I shot a gun when I was five years old.
I was deer hunting when I was 10 years old.
I mean, I know personal responsibility with a firearm.
Why can't what happened, Danielle?
What happened?
And why don't we push that forward?
Look, I agree with you, and I'm not debating with the notion or the fact that there are millions and millions of responsible gun owners in this country.
But you know what?
We have laws for a reason.
We have drunk driving laws.
I'm not going to drunk drive, but there are still laws out there because people do.
We have seatbelts and other car safety regulations because I'm going to always put myself in a seatbelt and my three-year-old in a seatbelt.
Because you're responsible.
Not everybody does.
It is my, yeah, I know, but not everybody is.
Like, the fact that we have toddlers getting hold of guns and shooting people means that there is a problem.
And I know that regulation is something else to everything, but why wouldn't we look at it?
Because can you imagine growing up knowing you'd shot a child as a three-year-old?
But we see, that's the thing.
I agree what you're saying, but we already have those laws on the book.
You can't just pull your gun out and wave it around.
You can't just brandish it.
You can't, you know, there's all these laws out there.
If you shoot somebody accidentally, you're still going to be possibly charged with manslaughter.
I mean, the laws are on the books.
What we're not teaching is personal responsibility.
I hear people saying, let's raise the age of 21.
Do you know, Danielle, if you go down right now to Penn Station and they have the National Guard down there, you very well could be standing next to an 18-year-old that has a loaded M4 that's standing next to you, fully automatic weapon, and nobody raises a ruckus about that.
Yet, we don't do anything about the cars out there that in 2015, almost 3,000 people between the ages 16 and 19 were killed in car crashes.
All right, I'm going to have to leave it there.
I know, Danielle, you hate when I don't give you the last word, but I'd say today was a checkmate Jonathan Gillum Day.
You can get sorry, but kind of.
We put up Jonathan's book, Sheep No More, on our website, Hennity.com, a bestseller.
Danielle McLaughlin, thank you.
When we come back, I know a lot of you have been wanting to get on the phones today.
That'll happen next, straight ahead, as we continue.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour.
We'll get to your phones in a minute.
I mean, we all know, Madonna, I often dream of blowing up the White House.
And then, of course, what is the name?
Ashley Judd.
And to our detractors that insist that this march will never add up to anything, you.
You.
Yes.
I'm angry.
Yes.
Shocker.
I am outraged.
Shocking.
Yes.
Yes.
I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
I am a nasty woman.
I'm nasty.
Like my bloodstains on my bed sheet.
It's unbelievable.
I mean, it has been nothing but feigned, phony, fraudulent, faux outrage every day.
And while the president was out in California this week looking at prototypes of the border wall in Los Angeles at a fundraiser, there's actor Robert De Niro again.
He wanted to punch the president in the face on a prior occasion.
You know, now blasting, he's spoiled.
He's an idiot.
It's like, I keep telling you that everybody on the left is having a collective meltdown in front of us all.
And this outrage is faux.
It is feigned.
It is false.
It is phony.
And I don't believe it.
Then you have actor Sean Penn apparently has a debut novel and the main character calls for the assassination of the president and dares the commander-in-chief to tweet me according to the Daily Mail.
Really?
We're going to look at Sean Penn as our next great novelist, Tom Clancy.
That gives me this added responsibility to help the cause of promoting debate.
Genius.
This letter, I think, was brought about by a sort of increasing feeling of shame on my own part in not participating in what for me was not necessarily so much a political, but to the degree that humanitarianism and civic responsibility are the same thing.
I think that it's we're living now in what Mailer said was probably the first century that because of technology and the conflicts in the world, maybe the first century in the history of man, that the earth survives without us.
I think that it's just misguided.
What we need, I believe, in leadership is counseling that rage, which is rage can be productive.
I'm not a pacifist.
I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican.
I'm an American.
I'm a father.
You can't make this up.
You really can't.
I mean, full-on, just nonsensical.
I'd like to know that he actually wrote this book himself.
I mean, if he did, and it sounds like that, it's going to be the greatest novel ever.
All right, let's get to our busy telephones here.
I know you've been so patient.
Let's say hi to Joe.
He's in Florida today.
Joe, how are you?
Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show, and we're glad you called, sir.
Hello, Sean.
I'm doing good.
I just want to express my concern that you and other conservative commentators are losing sight of the forest for the trees when it comes to Hillary Clinton.
Okay, tell me why.
Well, every evening when I watch your TV show, you repeat all the allegations against Hillary Clinton, and you mention how she's received a free pass from being held accountable for them, but you don't say why.
Well, I can tell you why, because if you let me, let's take you, for example.
Do you want me to explain it to you?
I think you know why.
I can explain it if you want me to, but you're going to have to.
All right, follow along with it.
Let's say that you have an email.
You're involved in an issue that's being investigated, and let's say there's a subpoena issued for you to hand over all of your emails.
Do you think by law that you'd have to do that?
Yes.
Now, let's say you decide to delete 33,000 of them and not hand them over.
Is that in any way obstructing the investigation into you?
Yes.
Let's say, just to make super sure, you acid wash your hard drive and you use BleachBit to eliminate any evidence of the emails you deleted.
That would be obstruction, too, right?
Yes.
And then if you have one of your aides take a hammer and beat the crap out of your BlackBerries and your old devices to make sure all those emails are gone, that would be obstruction of justice as well, right?
Yes.
And we have laws 18, U.S. Code, U.S.C. 793, that says you are not allowed to mishandle classified information and nor are you allowed to destroy classified top-secret special access information.
Remember?
Those are crimes.
Those are felonies.
All right.
We know that Hillary put it on an email server in the mom and pop shop bathroom closet.
Then she destroyed such, which is a separate instance and a separate case, right?
Yes.
Now, the issue becomes, okay, well, there's an investigation into all of this.
And the person, they finally interview Hillary and 17 other people on 4th of July weekend, but they were writing Peter Strzok, who hates Donald Trump, and says, God forbid, we need a backup plan and insurance policy if he wins.
We know that Comey and Strzok were both writing an exoneration of Hillary in May before the July interview, and that Comey under oath said he didn't make up his mind until after he interviewed Hillary, but it was really Peter Strzzok that interviewed her.
Does that sound like the investigation was rigged to you?
Because it does to me.
Yes, but the reason why is because Hillary Clinton has been in the political arena for so long that she has obtained so much dirt on so many of our elected officials, Republicans, Democrats alike, that they've been an obligated protector, and they know if she goes down, they go down with her.
Let's assume for a minute that you're right.
But if you would go to jail over what you admit are felonies and crimes, and I go to jail for the same thing, then the question is, do we really care about equal justice under the law, the equal application of the law, and the constitutional aspects of the law?
And then it gets a little more complicated because she fixed the primary election according to the head of the DNC that was the head of the DNC at the time.
And then we found out that Hillary paid for a dossier.
And we didn't find that out until recently, really.
It was a year.
Nobody would tell us who paid for it, but Hillary paid for it.
And then we find out that phony Russian dossier full of lies was then used as the basis to secure a FISA warrant against an opposition party campaign operative and get into the Trump campaign email system.
Now, what if Donald Trump did any of those things?
How do you think the media in this country would react?
Well, they go ballistic, but the media and the politicians are all part of the deep state, as you know.
And then I'm also concerned that the judiciary's certain key members of the judiciary are.
Yeah.
Well, I'm just saying, look, you're saying she gets a pass because the deep state is protecting her.
That's what you're telling me.
And should I just accept it or should I talk about we're going to lose our country if we lose the rule of law?
I mean, are you asking me to stop talking about it?
I mean, nobody else in the media does.
No, but the problem is those in the rank and files, you said, get it.
Those rank-and-file law enforcement military, they know a lot of what's going on.
The problem is when they're told to stop a case or a project's being transferred to someone else, another agency, they don't question it.
And those that do think a scandal's being covered up, they can't say anything because the non-disclosure protocol, which you know carries deep consequences for violating it.
I mean, look what happened when that one witness was allowed to talk in Uranium One.
He had the non-disclosure protocol lifted.
That's what needs to change.
If that changes, the rank and file would be feel confident they can come forward.
Listen, you raised some really good points, Joe.
You're a very thoughtful person, but I feel a certain sense of justice and the need to get to truth.
You know, there's a lot happening.
We're going to be getting documents, as I hear, you know, later today.
And anyway, there's so much that is coming out.
By the time we get on TV tonight, there's going to be even more information.
And I just feel, you know, as every day, we have to remind you a little bit of what we've uncovered because the story is long and complicated.
And then we always add the new stuff.
But I will tell you this, where in the last year, it's been an uphill climb.
We're now on the downside of this investigation.
And things are going to move very, very quickly.
And I believe a special counsel will be appointed.
And I believe that hopefully there's enough good people that believe in truth and justice, the Constitution, equal application under the law, that we're going to get to the bottom of all of this.
Anyway, 800-941-Sean is a number.
Maddie is in North Carolina.
Maddie, how are you?
Where in North Carolina are you?
Oh, I'm in Fort Frag.
Yeah, nice to talk to you.
My best to everybody there.
Oh, thank you very much, Sean.
Sean, look, I just had to tell you something.
Thank you.
I was driving up the road, and I heard about Hillary talking about the claim that married women literally were directed how to vote by their husbands and sons.
And I started laughing so hard, I had to pull over.
I was driving at the time.
You got to understand is that for me, as a married woman, you are the one that flipped me.
Could you imagine?
Oh, I'm the one that flipped you.
It wasn't your husband.
It wasn't your son, and it wasn't your boss.
No, you flipped me.
And you did it just before the very first round with Obama going for president.
You know, I turned out more right than I ever dreamed of, didn't I?
Oh, my gosh.
You know, this is kind of a double-edged sword.
You opened my eyes, but now that my eyes are opened, I am just shocked by what I see.
And I miss my blissful ignorance.
Does that make sense?
Listen, you're very sweet.
Listen, I do this show for you and for the audience.
And I've never felt, I mean, during those Obama investigative times in 07 and 08 and Reverend Wright and Acorn and Black Liberation Theology and Alinsky and Flager and Wright and Ayers and Dorn, you know, I was kind of out there hanging on a limb and on a branch on a twig by myself.
And I feel like I'm back there again.
But I've never been more confident and at peace with what we're doing in terms of really playing an important role in getting news and information that people aren't giving you because of their bias.
And I feel like I'm doing more reporting than every other news network combined.
I want them to print that because they're lazy and they're overpaid.
That's the reason why you flipped me because I was a hardcore Dem, seriously, hardcore all my life.
And I tried to prove wrong what you were saying.
And I did my research.
I could not prove you wrong.
And then the more I researched, the more I found out that I was basically being lied to.
And I started watching you more.
And the more I watched, the more I learned.
And the more upset I got.
I'm not going to even tell you it's a lie on that one.
But you are the one that allowed me to see what was going on.
And to the point where I left the Democratic Party.
Yeah, well, I really appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
It means more than you know, Maddie.
I really do thank you.
And thanks to everybody.
Look, at the end of the day, everybody that listens to this show watches Hannity.
We have an unbelievable show tonight.
There's so much breaking, even as we speak.
I'm literally, you know, trying to deal with calls, emails, and my text messages because my phone's blowing up because new information will be out before 9 o'clock tonight.
And it's just mind-numbing to me how fast this is now beginning to flow in.
And it's flowing in all because the Inspector General report is due out soon.
Anyway, we have time for one quick call here as we say hi to Mike is in Floral Park, New York.
You know that I worked at a place called the Merry Peddler in Floral Park for a number of years.
It was a great Irish pub.
I loved the place and had some very good years there.
And it was right across from that bus company.
If you remember the, what is it, Shank bus company, something like that.
How are you?
How are you?
It's great to talk to you, and I appreciate everything you do.
Thank you, my friend.
Thank you.
I'm about a half a mile away from where the Merry Peddler used to be.
It's closed down.
It's a child care center now.
Wow.
A lot of memories in that bar and a lot of late nights in that pub, you know, closing down at 4.30 in the morning.
Well, basically, that's one of the reasons I was inclined to call you because this is kind of like right in your backyard.
And, you know, I've been living here my whole life, and it's really hard to deal with some of the stuff that's going on.
And my daughter, she goes to an all-girl Catholic school in the area.
And yesterday, there was a walkout in the prayer service.
So the girls were told that if they decided that they did not want to walk out, that they would have to wait in a certain classroom.
Right.
So in other words, there's something wrong with them, right?
Right.
So they were told that the prayer service would take place after the 15-minute walkout.
Wow.
So my daughter decided that she didn't want to, you know, participate in the walkout, but she wanted to participate in the prayer service.
Right.
So she was sent to a classroom, and she said she spent 15 minutes in a classroom with about 10 other girls, and it was like almost as if it was a detention.
And she then raised her hand after 15 minutes and asked if she could go to the prayer service.
And then she was told that since she made the decision to go to the classroom, she's just going to have to wait it out.
Unbelievable.
Almost being punished for being somebody that is expressing their opinion.
I mean, God forbid, if we don't do what I'm saying about securing perimeters, IDs, metal detectors, and, you know, concealed carry, retired military, retired police, I don't see how you stop the next shooting.
And we want our kids to live and not be vulnerable.
Do what we do for these politicians.
We have breaking news tonight that is just developing on Hannity 9 Eastern.
Now we have letters to Rosenstein, NAG from Graham, Grassley, Tillis, and Cornyn.
This is huge news tonight.
They are demanding a second special counsel and also demanding a criminal referral for Christopher Steele and so much more.
