Former NFL player Burgess Owens takes over 'The Sean Hannity Show' and sits down with Alveda King to discuss the reason she has been pro-life since 1983! King takes listeners through the history of abortion and just why it's so dangerous to the life of a woman and why it's so important to her that the country defends the right to life as much as possible. "80 percent of abortion centers are setup in minority communities," offered Burgess, "It appears that black babies and black mothers are being targeted." The Sean Hannity Show is live weekdays from 3 pm to 6 pm ET on iHeartRadio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is the Sean Hannity Show.
My name is Burgess Owens, and I have the honor of being your host today.
I want to first of all thank Sean and his awesome team for the opportunity to sit behind his mic.
First of all, let me say it is so good being back in New York during this Christmas season.
I spent many years here as a New Yorker doing my days as a New York Jet.
And a few years after retirement from the Al Davis Oakland Raiders, and it's a very, very special city during this time of year with a special feeling and energy.
Let's start off by first of all giving you our number.
It's 1-800-941-Shawn or 1-800-941-7326.
And before I jump into the show, let me also take a minute to let you know where you can find me on social media.com.
Twitter is Burgess Owens or Burgess Owens.
Facebook is Burgess Owens at Officially Burgess Owens.
And I'll co-host a weekly radio show with Rick Trader called the Conservative Commandos Radio Show.
We discuss topics of the day.
Also have a must-read Christmas gift.
It's not too late, guys, an Amazon bestseller liberalism or how to turn a good man into whiners, weenies, and wimps.
Okay, gang, we have an awesome lineup of guests that will be joining us for the next three hours.
Uh these are men and women who I have tremendous amount of respect for.
They've been my heroes for a long time.
Can't wait to share our conversations with you.
Dr. Alveda King, Jennifer Carroll, who's a former lieutenant governor for the state of Florida.
Jennifer, by the way, is the first black American in the history of my home state to uh serve in our position.
We have uh Colonel Alan West, Sheriff David Clark, Clark Kellogg, who's a former NBA star with the Pacers and presently a sports commentator.
I can promise you my friends that our conversation will be both educational and enlightening.
So stay tuned and hold on to your head.
Uh as a quick background, let me uh kind of give you an idea of what uh has dropped what drives my why.
You know, why is it that I am a have a a love for our country?
Why is it that I'm a stand-up and man up for a flag kind of guy?
And why I'm a conservative with a capital C. Well, I was extremely blessed to grow up in a deep south, 1960s segregated South in Tallahassee, Florida.
It was the days of Jim Crow Laws, the KKK, the tearing down of the walls of segregation.
And I grew up in the shadows of the Florida AM University, where I saw success everywhere.
Academia, entrepreneurs, teachers, coaches, committed mothers, and visionary fathers.
Is where marriage was expected and divorce is very rare.
The message was very simple.
You can achieve anything in this country if you work hard and willing to overcome and never, never quit.
The message regarding racism, you can beat it by winning, whether in the classroom, on a debate team, or in the sports arena.
Their message about regarding respect, you can't demand it, but you can command it again by winning.
The most important message to define our segregated community as young men was we were taught to respect and protect womanhood.
Only whiners, weenies, wimps, and cowards do not respect and protect womenhood.
We're also taught to respect our family name, our flag, and our country.
When I left Tallahassee to go play football, I went down to the University of Miami.
There I was an all-American defensive back.
I graduated with a degree in biology, a minor in chemistry.
I was a first-round draft tourist to the Jets where I played for seven years.
Traded to the Raiders, where I played for three and won Super Bowl 15 with the Jess Win Baby Oakland Raiders.
Since uh 80, 1983, I've been uh in corporate sales and an entrepreneur.
I'm now an executive director for the Utah chapter of an organization called One Heart Project.
It's a nationwide initiative that is helping thousands of forgotten youth, those that are coming out of the juvenile correction system, needing directions and opportunity.
These young boys are looking for hope and a second chance, and unfortunately, for far too many, it'll be their first chance.
So I'm very excited about that initiative.
Okay, so the theme of the day, the state of the black community and what it will take to make it great again.
Now, our conversation begins with a premise, and that is it was once great.
Yes, for those who have been taught in our progressive public school system, the black community, believe it or not, was once great.
I know it because I lived in one.
And let me say why this conversation is important to all Americans, regardless of race, creed, or color.
The journey of the black community over the last 100 years can serve as a warning beacon to help understand the true nature of the enemy that we are now facing.
It's an enemy that's targeted the black community since 1910, is an enemy that's stolen and demeaned our black American history, is evil, cowardly, destructive, empathy-free, and it uses stealth, deceit, and portrayal.
That enemy is the ideology of socialism, Marxism, liberalism, and atheism that's attacked our institutions for decades, and it's also it's been undermining our Judeo-Christian Foundation.
Our fight today in 2017 is not racism, it's socialism, Marxism, liberalism, and atheism, which uses race to divide us.
Now, do we have races among us?
Absolutely.
And we will always have individual races, black and white, because some people choose the spirit of hate.
But they they have no power over free and educated people.
The KKK in 2017 has no power over the black community.
It is absolutely dead.
Proof, a two-term black president.
Black millionaires throughout our country and every segment of our society in which they compete.
Black Americans in the seat of power and cities city mayors, police chiefs, United States Attorney Generals, the Secretary of States.
It is now time to expose the big lie, and that is the successful indoctrination in the false perception of black Americans for the last sixty years.
It is a false perception by the left that's been accepted by both blacks and whites.
And that perception is that the black community was a hapless and oppressed race in slavery, waiting for white Americans to allow us to integrate with them and to vote.
The reference of the black community as an oppressed and dominant dominated race by white people is the greatest insult to black Americans for for every generation who's paid the price, sacrificed, and contributed to our country to make it the greatest in the history of mankind.
It is a lie, but it's also very effective.
It allows white elitists to feel powerful and superior.
It allows dependent blacks to feel victim victimized and entitled.
The message from our past, great generations are very different and very simple.
We have a choice.
We can either be pitied or be respected.
It is absolutely impossible to be both.
My ancestors chose respect, and so do I. So let's talk a little bit about history.
Where were we and where are we now?
Matter of fact, let's start a little bit of my history, my beginnings as an American.
It started in 1848 with the arrival of my great-great grandfather, Silas Burgess in the belly of a slave ship.
He and his mother were sold on an auction block in Charleston, South Carolina, To the Burgess Plantation.
Silas was orphaned by eight years old, but with the help of older slaves escaped to Texas via the southern route of the underground underground railroad.
That route went all the way to Texas and Mexico and facilitated by German and Mexican Americans.
Silas made his way to Texas, where he became a successful entrepreneur, a pillar of his community.
He owned over a hundred acres of land, which was paid off in two years.
He was a committed father who understood the power of education.
He founded the first black elementary school in his area, the first black church in his region.
He was also politically engaged engaged member of the uh the Republican Party and a very proud American.
The greatest compliment, though, given to my great-great-grandfather can be summed in two words.
Fiercely independent.
So what is the message that comes from a slave that within decades was living his American dream?
That America is a place of second chances, is a place of unlimited dreams.
It's a place where your beginning does not determine your end.
You do.
We do.
Our success is determined by our choices, and here in America, we can fail and fail and fail again and still have the freedom to man up, stand up, and start anew.
And that, my friend, defines the American way.
It defines the black community that within only 50 years after slavery.
Remember, it was illegal to sleep to teach slave slaves to read and write.
But once free, they taught themselves.
They moved forward and they kicked butt.
It was the black Americans of the 1900 that created the first national business network, successful black men and women, entrepreneurs from New York to San Francisco.
President Theodore Roosevelt was the featured speaker at the first national convention.
It was a black woman, C. J. Walker, in 1915, that became the first female self-made millionaire in this country.
After World War II, it was black Americans that led our country in the percentage of entrepreneurs.
We led our country in the growth of the middle class.
We led our country in terms of the commitment of men committed to higher education.
We led our country in terms of the percentage of men committed to marriage.
And here was found the strongest family unit in our country, the black community.
So where do we stand?
And what are the the the numbers I'm going to share with you in the next few minutes are pretty daunting.
And it can only lead to only one of two conclusions.
The first conclusion is that it's natural.
It's a black thing.
It is, after all, black people think and act with our skin, and this should be accepted and expected.
The other is it's unnatural that the black community has been strategically targeted for decades, and that the black misery has been used as a get out the vote political strategy.
So here we go, and please pay attention to these numbers.
I'm sorry, 83% of black teen boys are unemployed today.
93% in the great liberal city of Chicago.
70% of black men abandoned their children with no shame.
We had an all-time low, 3.8% of entrepreneurs today versus the 40% when I was growing up in Tallahassee.
75% of black boys in California today.
This just came out in June of this year, cannot pass standard reading and writing tests.
It's apparent that some things don't change with those old rascally Democrats.
the same party that originally passed laws against educating their slaves.
1,800 black children every single day are sacrificed to the abortion industry, mostly urban mothers.
What is this equate to?
Close to 700,000 poor black mothers who have been indoctrinated, radicalized to think that their babies are no more than disposable trash.
Now, how does this happen?
Well, unfortunately, we have within our community a group of black Americans who are called the royalty class black elitist.
They represent about 30% of our population.
They're socialists, and they see these numbers and they could care less.
They simply don't care.
So you see, it has nothing to do with them.
They're living American dream.
Their own dear children are already going to great schools.
They live in nice safe neighborhoods.
They already networked with the rich and the famous, and they could care less about the poor.
They prioritize their ideology and their party over the welfare of their own race, and we'll vote with no shame, no empathy, for every anti-black policy that their white democratic leaders will demand of them.
Now there's good news, and that good news is that about 30% of black Americans who feel the way I do.
We hold conservative values.
We love our children, we love our race, we love our country and our God.
And we're waking up to the power of political free agency.
In the coming years, there'll be 15, 20, 25% of conservative black Americans who will be voting values and principles first over party.
We will never again allow the Democrats to herd our race like cattle into a predictable 93% group think.
The days of using misery as a political strategy will end, and respect from both parties will begin.
And I can promise you this, America, that as we pull our community back from the evil abyss of socialism, we'll also pull back our nation.
Okay, friends.
I think uh we're gonna look at taking our first break.
We're on the other side of this, we're gonna be coming back with Alvita King.
Uh she's a real game changer, the niece of Martin Luther King Jr. and someone I'm so excited about talking with.
So hold tight on to the other side of the break.
Hello, gang.
We're back again.
This is Burgess Owens, uh, former NFL player.
Um and let me give you our number here with Sean Hannity Show, so you'll know who to how who to call into what the numbers get to us.
It's 1-800-941-Shawn or 1-800-941-7326.
So we're gonna take a couple minutes and uh and take some of the calls.
Uh I'm gonna go to Rob out in Long Island, New York.
Hi, Burgess.
Hey Rob, how you doing, buddy?
Okay, uh, appreciate your topic.
You know, uh as a uh young man, all of my heroes in life were African American men.
I wanted to be a jazz pianist.
And I I studied and watched the master virtuoso pianists of Oscar Peterson and McFoy Tyner and Ramsey Lewis, and my parents are very involved in the civil rights movement.
And a topic I think is is huge.
And I think I wish Trump would really dig into this now is the control of the public sector teachers' unions over the school districts that systematically deny African American with that folks, especially uh a couple of examples uh two years ago.
Questlove, the drummer for the Jimmy Fallon band, uh, with 20,000 African American protesters were protesting the closing of these school, these charter schools, in which they were showing that the young girls with security and ru and and and order, they were beating the white Jewish kids in Scarsdale, New York in math and science.
Presently, 44,000 African American families are online for 3,000 openings for charter schools in Brooklyn.
Uh huh.
Uh I think that if you've probably seen the movie Waiting for Superman about how these young 114,000 African American families online, best back to 2009.
Yeah.
Um, and this to me is a huge issue.
You know.
Well, yeah, let me let me answer that.
Uh you have a point.
And and uh, what I want uh the the audience to know is this fight we've been having is been going on for quite quite a while, guys.
It's not just overnight.
Um for those who don't know, the father of uh our public education, progressive education, is John Dewey back in the early 1900s.
John Dewey was an atheist, uh, he's a socialist, and uh he he's he's obviously the thing I just mentioned earlier about education, uh the first battleground is the rewriting of history.
That's what socialists do.
So the the goal here, if you look at what the public school system is doing, and the reason why we have black kids, poor black kids not being able to escape it, uh, is because when you dumb down our kids, they become democrats.
They become dependent, they become angry, they become controllable.
And those are the things we have to be careful about.
So uh, yes, that's a fight, and that's why everyone here should be voting and uh vote only, guys, for people who give our kids and our parents a choice of education, because that's what every every every child should have a chance to think themselves out of the box and and to freedom.
Okay, let's move on to uh uh listen to Ryan.
Ryan have a comment there, buddy.
Merry Christmas to everybody.
Thank you, Ryan.
You betcha.
Hey, I just wanted to say, first of all, I've listened to you numerous times in various venues, and um I really appreciate everything you've had to say.
You seem to be a man of uh kind heart and uh really an intelligent individual who really uh puts forth truth and uh you stand for it, and I want to say thank you very much.
Um you kind of remind me of Solomon Chase back in the day.
Um his day.
We have a we have a heartbreak coming up, buddy.
So do you have a question?
Thank you so much.
Well, well, keep this in mind, guys.
We all have our place in in this in this life.
Mine is to be an entrepreneur and to let everyone know, particularly our kids, that if I can do it, you can do it too.
That is what America's all about, guys.
Every generation has done it in the past, and we have to make sure we continue that uh moving forward.
So stay tuned to uh we get on the other side with Dr. Alvita King.
I look forward to it.
Uh here comes Hello everyone.
This is again the Sean Handy Show.
My name is Burgess Owens sitting in for Sean, uh, former NFL player with the Jets and the Raiders, now part of the Let's Make a Greg America Great Again team.
So for all my uh teammates out there uh across the country, welcome.
Okay, let's uh let's get started.
I'm looking forward to uh having everybody to to to listen in on our next speaker, uh next next guest will be Alvita King.
Um is Martin Luther King's uh Junior's niece and director of civil rights for the unborn, uh African American outreach for peace for life, and someone I have had respect for for years.
I've just uh she's a true champion of very courageous soul, and I look forward to having you guys get a chance to listen to a little bit of uh of her thoughts.
Alvita.
Yes, I'm right.
All right, how are you doing?
I'm good, and I'm glad I'm in DC, and I'm headed for a White House tour at Christmas.
So I'm not gonna be able to stay with you too long, but I'm so glad to join you.
Well, let's make sure you tell the president uh hello from from all of us here, okay.
So listen, I'm gonna I'll jump right into it.
Uh there's something that um uh uh uh for those of us who care about what's happened to our race, particularly in the abortion area arena.
Uh this has been a uh it's been an uh uh abortion's been a devastating impact on us, uh 20 million uh babies killed since 1973, which is about by the way, 40 percent of our present population.
Um I wanted to ask about a link between abortion and press uh breast cancer, and there's a bunch of of studies out there.
I just want to highlight two of them.
One was published um by the Journal of National Medical Association, and since 80% of black uh of uh Planned Parent Parenthood abortion centers are in the black community.
I thought I'd bring this one up first.
Black women at the age of 50 and above who have had at least one induced abortion, have an increase of breast cancer of three uh 370 percent.
There's another one is a 19 uh sorry, two thousand thirteen study by the breast cancer prevention institution facts uh fact sheet that states that 54 out of 75 worldwide studies show there's an increase of uh of uh breast cancer for those who've got an abortion.
Nineteen out of twenty-four studies here in the United States have also shown this shown the same increase.
Now there has been another on the other side, a study released in 2007 by uh Karen Michaels that's that mentions that there's absolutely no connection whatsoever between cancer and abortion.
Let me I guess let me just ask you this.
First of all, uh, is it just me or are these decades of studies just been unreported?
Because I I hadn't really not had a chance to hear this before now.
Um, if you give let me have a minute on that, when you say our race, there's only one race.
I learned that from my dad, Revenue D. King, my uncle, Dr. Martin Luther King, Reverend Martin Luther King Jr., my granddaddy, Revenue Martin Luther King Senior.
So I was taught Act 1726 of one blood, God made all people.
So we're one race, but we're different ethnicity.
But now every statistic that you just quoted is true.
It's verifiable in the African American community.
And uh as a matter of fact, we had the DNA test in my family, and we are part African part, Irish part, Native American.
So that and that's verifiable as well.
But African Americans were targeted by Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood.
And at the time we were called Negroes, and Planned Parenthood started out as the birth control league with the Negro Project.
The Negro Project specifically targeted African Americans, other minorities, and poor, what Margaret Sanger wrote to be useless eaters.
She said, colored people are like weeds, they need to be exterminated.
We don't want that word to get out, so let's cultivate some of their leaders.
Now, the products and chemicals of abortion and abortive fascists, birth chemical birth control, and birth control devices.
That means the shots, the pills, the IUDs, and all of that, and the abortions themselves are definitely associated with breast cancer.
Because if you introduce any of those agents into the body of a woman, she her body will respond and reject it.
Abortion interrupts The cycle when the breasts are being developed to feed the baby the milk.
The same thing happens when you cut off the process.
So there is a high rate of breast cancer that is associated with abortion is higher in the black community because Planned Parenthood, under the guise and leadership of Margaret Sanger, targeted the black ethnic community to try to do what was called population control.
So everything you said is very accurate.
And could I add to that, uh 80% gang, 80% of abortion centers are set up in my in my minority uh communities.
So uh it's it appears then it's not just the black babies that are being targeted, it's also black mothers who end up paying the price.
And uh I'm gonna ask you another question, but it seems to me that uh you know the tobacco industry paid a big price by not giving out all information about potential downside.
And uh I would love to see a day when we have a war a warning label uh on the side of abortion centers that this could be something that uh mothers should at least know about so they can make that choice.
Well, one thing that President Trump had said, because when he when he really found out what abortion was, he did what I did in nineteen eighty-three.
Prior to nineteen eighty three, I was pro-choice.
And I would say a woman has a right to do abortions and all that.
I had secret abortions myself.
But when I found out what abortion was, and then it was killing a human being in the womb of a woman, in the womb of a mother, without the baby having a say so or a lawyer, that was too close to slavery for me.
So when I was born again in eighty-three, I also received Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and became a voice and an advocate for life from the womb to the tomb.
That means the baby, the poor people, the sick people, the elderly people, people who are unjustly incarcerated.
And so President Trump, when he looked at abortion and said, My God, you rip little babies out of the womb of their mothers and tear them apart, he said, that's wrong.
That's evil.
And he said, When I'm elected, we'll stop.
So he gave us the Mexico City policy, a pro-life justice in our uh and injustice gorsage and many other things that he is doing to correct that.
So it's really time for America across the board to repent, like I had to do, and to say it was wrong to kill those little babies.
And I have had the problems in my own body, some of the issues that you're discussing.
I just uh was treated for cervical cancer many years ago and was healed, thank God.
And I had some problems with my breast and all that, but the Lord was very gracious and merciful to me.
So we just need to repent in America.
And I know the i it it'll take longer than we have today to verify your facts, but your facts are 200% accurate.
Except don't call us our race and your race.
We've got to reconcile to God and say, Lord, we made a mistake.
We thought we were different races.
We're different nations, every nation, every tongue, every tribe, yes, but with a human race.
And so we need to repent and get it right in America.
Very good.
And there's there's one other thing I wanted to make sure we cover.
A lot of Americans probably are not aware of the Born Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act of September 5th, uh, 2015.
Uh why we talk about that'cause I want America to understand who stands for the black community and who stands against it, including black congressmen who uh who seem to think that it's okay to do what you're gonna explain next few minutes.
So please explain that to America so we understand what that born alive abortion survivors protection act.
Well, people don't even remember when President Obama was Senator Obama, he said no, if a baby is born alive, you need to go ahead and kill it, because the intent was to kill it in the first place in the womb.
And if that didn't work, let the baby die.
Don't give it medical treatment.
That's it all was going on when he was running for president and became president.
And so there was a lot of resistance to any legislation for all of his uh eight years, and there's still some resistance now saying that because what we're saying is when a baby is born, as there's a governor, I it came across my desk either yesterday or this morning, and the governor says, No, we're not gonna protect that little baby who survives abortion because the intent was to kill the baby, and that would cut back on a woman's right to choose.
And so that still exists today.
But if a baby is born alive, they just lay the baby up to the side and let the baby die.
And that's wrong.
So that baby is a patient, a human being.
It was baby, was already a human being in the womb, but definitely when the baby's born, everybody can see the baby and the baby needs treatment.
So I think that's very inhumane to deny those babies, uh medical assistance.
I want to take it a step further.
It's uh more than in the main, it's called infanticide.
It's what happens when babies are killed, period.
And uh I I hope I hope America understands what's happening here with this progressive movement.
It's uh first of all, there's no God in the middle of it.
So people who do this, including our uh black concrete congressional uh uh congressman, every single one of them, one hundred um I shouldn't say one hundred percent because Mia Love, my good friend out of Utah, voted aga uh voted for this protection.
But every single black congressman, John Lewis, Elijah Cummings, Maxine Waters, they they understand what's going on.
They understand the targeting.
They understand these are a lot of babies being killed, and they and they still can move forward.
They're in the pocket of the abortion lobby, and they're receiving grants and monies and awards from market trying to make their leaders.
They did scholarships and political contributions and all kinds of things to to our best and our brightest.
So the people were elected and then found out that they were in a trap and didn't know how to get out of it.
So they feel, you know, black people, we are very loyal people.
So if you do something for us, we feel like we're obligated to serve you.
But they're serving death.
They're not serving life.
And and and something there again, we need revival.
We just need to wake up, repent.
Well, I tell you, uh uh I just want to ask you real quickly, because obviously uh with your connection, uh you you uh uh you're the niece of of uh Martin Luther King Jr. and your grandfather, uh you were uh there to know him a little bit.
Uh what they side with today's political black leaders.
Um by the way I'm I'm gonna introduce something real quickly because leadership to me is a willingness to take the tough blows to sacrifice self to be able to have a vision.
Uh I I think we have a bunch of fake black leaders.
John Lewis, Elijah Cummings, my uh Maxine Waters, every single policy, particularly when it comes down to life of of our race and protection and vision, they seem to stand in the case.
Yes, I know.
There's only one race.
I'm totally with you on that.
Yes, for sure.
Okay.
So um, and and I I make that I make that that difference only because uh, you know, again, we we we both grew up in the same time down south, and we remember the um uh the courage, we remember the the the tenacity that our parents had to make sure they were respected and make sure they got got the respect, commanded respect from others.
And so there's something that's happened over the last six years to our race that's really ethnic community, go ahead.
Yes, yes.
And uh that difference is something we have to make sure we're addressing because at the end of the day, by us helping those who've been targeted, the black community, then we actually help our country come back much stronger because we're gonna start voting our values, a country values, the way Americans always done in the past.
And with that being said, we're gonna have not only black children being protected, but also white children, and every other child who deserves life will be protected.
So um uh let me just let me just ask you one other question, we'll let you go because I know you have something to do there.
Uh what do you see?
What is the way that we can bring our community back to being the great community that we all grew up in?
Pride and all the things that we we saw with our parents.
Well, we have to return to God, and you can read about this in all of my books, King Truths, King Rules, even my cookbook, GG's Home for the Holidays, has some of these same principles in there.
Return to God, repent, except that we are one human race with ethnic distinctions, and that we can do what my uncle said we're gonna have to do.
Uncle M. L. Martin Luther King said we must learn to live together as brothers, and I asked at his sisters or parish as fools.
Well, we can't do that if we keep seeing ourselves as separate races and separate this and separate that.
We are a people in need of the Lord, and that's why I am evangelist, Alvita King.
So we have to return to God to repent, to embrace each other as brothers and sisters, not as separate races.
But we can't be colorblind or else we need glasses.
So we know that our skin color denotes ethnic distinctions, which are beautiful, but they're not designed by God to divide us, but to unite us.
So as long as we remember that and start killing the poor, the sick, the elder, and the babies in the womb, and stop unjustly incarcerating people to make money, then um God will begin to hear our prayer.
You just described the American way, and I can't say that enough.
What makes us unique is our Judeo Christian values, our foundation, which allows us number one to be open to everything and everyone, but most importantly, allows us to see each other the way God does, inside out, not versus outside in.
So I'm spot on.
I think as we uh continue, every generation's done much better.
We now have to just kind of make up for what's been happening the last eight years.
We kind of took a little bit of a step back.
We're gonna come back strong again.
So Avita, thank you so much.
We're gonna take a quick break here and on the other side to maybe ask a couple questions.
You know, Vita, enjoy yourself, have Merry Merry Christmas and say hello to the president for us, okay?
Hello gang.
This is Burgess Owens again from Sean Hannity.
Uh let me give you real quick the numbers here.
It's uh 1800-941 Sean or 1-900-941-7326.
We're gonna be heading off to a heartbreak in a minute.
So let me just ask answer one of the questions I'm seeing here from Tav Tavaris, and that is what is my take on the criminal co criminal criminal justice system and is affair to black Americans.
Uh personally, I think we need to take a good look long good long look at that.
Um I'm I'm running into uh and seeing the frustration that comes from our juvenile system in which young men who have no fathers, have no direction, but they make a mistake, and then there's no way for them to get out of it.
They have this record, they can't get a job when they come out.
Um it is it is amazing again the hopelessness, and that's why we have such a strong uh uh return back to the system because we're not giving these kids hope.
So uh we need to definitely take a look at this, find ways, uh and I think the trades should be a good way to get some of our folks who some of these young men and women who have who really want to make a uh make a break and change their lives.
They need to have a way to get out and work a good hard day's work, get paid, take care of their families, understand what it is to be uh to be self-sufficient and getting jobs and the trades would probably do it.
From what from from what from what I'm understanding in in Utah where I'm from, now that now that a lot of illegals are going back home, it's increasing the uh the job market for those of us here in this country.
And I'm hoping that we take advantage of that, help our young people to learn the trade, get and do things that they have not done before, and we'll we'll end up solving it.
We'll see you back on the other side of the break, guys.
Hey gang, welcome once again.
This is the Sean Hannity Show.
My name is Burgess Owens, uh former NFL player and again, uh one of your teammates now in Let's Make America Great Again.
Uh I'm going to be introducing someone I have a lot of respect for.
I'm actually gonna do a little bit of a deep dive into her accomplish accomplishments because I think it's important as we kind of talk through the next few minutes to to get an idea there's a message that comes from past generations that that we have to make sure we grab again and push forward.
Uh first of all, I mentioned that uh General Carroll is the first black lieutenant governor for the state of Florida.
Um her parents immigrated to America from Trinidad when she was eight.
She enlisted to the uh United States Navy, where she after twenty years retired as a lieutenant commander.
She's a she was a state legislator for seven years, small business owner, executive director of the Florida Department of Veterans Affair Affairs.
Um her son is an NFL.
She's been married for over 30 years and just appointed to uh a position by President Trump that you might want to tell us a little bit about.
But I I'll tell you this could have gone in so many different ways because of her background, but I'll just say this.
It represents what my parents' generation expected from us.
And we just need to have more of those higher expectations and more success.
So that being said, Jennifer, how are you doing?
I am great, Burgess.
You're doing a wonderful job standing in for Hannity.
He better watch out and take over here.
No concerns on that piece, believe me.
So listen, I'll tell you, go.
The NSL got a couple albums, uh, ESPN got a couple open slots together over there.
Well, listen, I I wanted to do this with you.
Um I think it'll be great for our audience to hear a little bit from black conservatives who who've kind of paid the price, who've gone through the American dream and and and appears that everything just kind of worked out, that we give maybe some life lessons or principles that we learn from our parents.
And I'm gonna trade off back and forth with you.
We'll take a few minutes and of course we're going to run out of time.
But I think Americans can learn a lot from just knowing how this works out for everyone, not just us, but everyone out there who's trying to succeed.
So uh do you have a uh a few uh life lessons, and what I'll do is I'll once you give yours, I'll I'll I'll share one of mine, okay?
We'll go back and forth.
Sure.
You know, uh as you mentioned, I'm an immigrant born in Trinidad, West Indies, and my parents were my adopted parents who brought me up to the United States.
So coming to the United States and assimilating into the culture and and working hard, and it came here for the opportunities.
And my father one time as a teenager, I felt like I had to please everybody.
And I went to him crying one day, and I I was just I was just so distraught that I just couldn't please the people that I was trying I was trying to please.
And my father said, You'll never be able to please everyone.
So don't beat yourself up.
What you can do is the best that you can do.
And what he was trying to say is that at the end of the day, it's not up to me to make sure everyone is pleased and we'll never have a perfect anything, a perfect people, perfect society, but what we can do is our best.
And my mother, you know, she was she was a wise woman above her means.
And one of the sayings she used to tell me is that stay on top of the world because it's too crowded on the bottom.
And what she was saying is that people love misery.
Misery loves company, and everybody will try to pull you down or find fault with others and wallow in the negative.
So her words were saying to me that keep my head up and don't get dragged down into the bottom where the majority is.
And I think that's what a couple of those lessons there, President Trump himself is recognizing and realizing and staying above the fray and staying ahead of things so that no matter what people call him, no matter what people say, that he's gonna stay steadfast to do what's right.
Exactly.
Let me share one with my mother again, uh wise it's just a wise white person in the and uh I was one of uh four black athletes that actually was integrating this uh white high school in Tallahassee, Florida.
So my sophomore year, I remember standing in this in the kitchen, I was probably complaining or maybe getting a little angry about what was going on.
And she said something that was so powerful, and I really hope people really take the time to listen to this.
Very very simple but very powerful.
She says, Burgie, just remember not to let other people's problem become yours.
Now, that little bit of saying was basically saying this don't let races turn you into one.
And I love that because over time what you realize is that we can control our future if we understand who we are and and not let the anger of somebody else.
I mean, the worst thing that can happen in in our life is to turn into an angry person who looks at other people do not like them, and we have to live with ourselves forever with that deal.
So um it was a great lesson.
Do you have another one you want to share with us?
Well, you know, the thing about it, and that's what we're seeing of late that the term racism is just thrown out there for everything, and it's just so it could be manipulated.
But one of the things that we talked about about making the black community great again, and President Trump is talking about making America great again, not for everybody, but the black community throughout the years have been uh so c so somewhat accustomed now to having everything on the bottom, the bottom of education, the bottom of the social ills in a community, and the black community must get out of the mental shackles that the Democrats have placed them in.
And the conversations that we will have with our democrat, the black Republicans and black democrats, we agree on almost all the issues family values, work ethic, economic empowerment, less government regulations, all the things that are conservative values, but yet when they go to vote, they're voting on the racism and and and what the other people are trying to instill in their minds as to why they cannot come out of this in shackled mentality.
But black community they they get engaged and and and start marching and and having these riots and and making excuses for things like my kid has ADD or I come from a single family home and subsidized test uh this the standardized test need to be dumbed down because I can't learn.
And those things were not from my parents' generation and my grandparents' generation was not those things that were instilled in uh stilled in us.
It was that we could be empowered to do for ourselves.
You'd have to pull yourself up by the bootstrap.
Look at people like Frederick Douglass, who worked hard to promote literacy among blacks.
Uh George Washington Carver invented four hundred products from the peanuts, and many of these people were either enslaved or were one generation removed from slavery, but they did not let the lack of freedom and the education that we know it today to stop them from learning.
Benjamin Banneker, right there in Washington, DC, our nation's capital, he recreated all of the put all all of the blueprints for creating the layout of Washington DC from memory when the French planner LaFont, he left and took all of his plans.
So we have to really pull us look within and see the self-worth that we have and understand and recognize that excuses should not be in our vocabulary for precluding us from moving forward.
Well, I tell you it's all about expectations and that's so spot on.
I I as you were talking, I was remembering back in the sixties, I was in seventh grade, uh uh and I was actually demonstrating one of the uh Florida State Theater back in Tallahassee.
And I remember if if if if anybody goes back now, look at those years.
Think about Martin Luther King and his leadership.
They were in the middle of the summer demonstrating with white shirts, dark ties, a hat and probably and dress shoes.
Why were they dressed that way?
Was because not only were they dealing with the evils of of uh Jim Crow laws, segregation, they're also understanding that there's basic racial stereotypes the Democrats were putting on the black race.
They were gonna ensure not only that other people respect us and not expect that, but also our kids knew that we weren't what they were they were saying that we were.
Those stere those stereotypes were very simple.
It was uh lazy, slouchy, inarticulate, um criminality, uh un uh uh un undisciplined, all those things and unfortunately we begin to see it.
We're seeing those same democ uh so same stereotypes in our communities today because the message is going to our kids every single day through the media.
Black entertainment television.
If you look at that, it's nothing but negative stereotyping.
So you wonder why these kids all of a sudden making millions of dollars and they step on the sideline and they do not have respect for the flag or s respect for women or or respect for whatever we've our country is about, they have not been taught that for twenty years because what's going on behind the curtains.
So it's uh we've had our generation before us understood the fight was not just the physical, it was the emotional and the per self perception, and we need to get back to making sure our kids and our and and all Americans really recognize that we truly are we're kids of a king.
We should expect the best out of life and not expect not not listen to those who're gonna put us down.
Well, true, and we have to do our own homework.
We cannot and any black person who recognize that this tax bill that was passed today and will be signed into law will not benefit them.
For the amount of people that have so called been polled to say that they don't want a tax cut, how many people will go to work and their boss says, I'm gonna give you a tax uh a raise and you say no, I don't want that.
So we're the they we're gonna listen to Nancy Pelosi that says that this tax cut is so bad that you're gonna get more money in your pocket and be able to save for your family and have more discretionary income and you're gonna say, No, no, no, don't give that to me.
This is the control mentality that the Democrats have had over the the minority population, particularly the black population for far too long.
And unfortunately for the Democrats, they take the they take the black votes for granted.
The only time the black lives matter is when they come for a vote and then they disappear.
So you're gonna tell me for a single parent uh that's that's struggling that a tax cut is not gonna help that individual where they have an increase of income to come in and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer is gonna say, No, no, no, we don't want that for you.
And the black community is supposed to listen to this and believe in this.
That's why it's so important for us to be educated, for us to do our homework, for us to do our own research and not be spoon fed the the negative information that's being provided to us because the same hand that's feeding you can also poison you.
And to to go to that point, education has always, always been the key to freedom.
It's no question about it.
That's where the critical thinking comes from.
That's where you can all of a sudden begin to think outside the box and not wait for somebody else to do it for you.
Uh I I think it's i it's really key.
I I wanted to to share one other story with you that uh and I call it uh uh the uh tough men, tough as what men do.
And it was actually an example of uh watching my dad.
Uh back in Tallahassee, we used to we used to go to uh Texas, Houston, Texas, every summer and this is in the days when there was uh uh Jim Crow uh law, so we had in a restaurant at the service station there was a white woman and uh white man on the side restrooms and in the back that's colored.
Well my parents never a uh acquiesced to that and we'll go into the white women and white men based what they wanted uh uh you know, based on going in.
Well we had this one stop and uh and my mom was in the restroom and these two white guys, two young guys came and started trying to knock the door down.
My dad got out immediately and had a and and had an altercation with both of 'em.
The end result, my mom did not have to come in our restroom early, and my dad showed his two boys and three girls how real men act.
Um and it's it's important to understand that the decision he made to act wasn't made on the spot.
He made the decision once in his life.
There's gonna be respect women, he's gonna fight for women, he's gonna do his best, whatever it might take to make sure that his wife was gonna be protected.
So it didn't look at the the options of of this two against one.
It didn't look at what would happen if they take me to jail.
He made a decision once.
And we need to make those decisions once, guys, in our lives.
Make a decision we're gonna succeed.
Make s make a decision that we're not gonna allow anyone to put our kids down or negate our race or use us to move their agenda forward.
We make that decision and then we just get Better at recognizing when those opportunities come.
So it's uh again, it was a great lesson for me.
And over life, I've I had chances when I when I don't act as courageous as I want to, I say, well, next time I'm gonna do a lot better, and that's the way it all works out.
Any other any other samples for us?
You have to you have to be informed and and have an have an open mind to receive information.
And it goes it starts with self-respect, respecting yourself and respecting others as well.
There's no other ethnic group that can be taken for granted like the black population has.
All other ethnic groups are focused on building wealth, improving their communities, advancing by gaining power of influence with public policy decisions, or building legacy for their families and passing that knowledge on through education to empower the next generation.
Well, if that's gonna be the focus and the focal point, then you will be more empowered to make a better decision for your family, yourself, and for future generations.
And that's where the rubber hits the road.
If you continue to be manipulated or defined by somebody else and control by someone else, then you will never be empowered to make those choices on your own like your father did for you.
Well, Jennifer, I we're gonna end up uh closing this out, but I I really do appreciate uh your example.
Um I think at the end of the day, we're gonna start having more and more conservatives to stand for the right and have the courage to make sure that uh uh we let people know that this is where it's all about.
That's what we need to get done.
I'm gonna go ahead and and uh give out the number one more time, one-eight hundred-nine four one Sean, one-eight hundred-nine four one three seven three seven three two six.
Okay, gang.
Burgess Owens again in for Sean Hannity.
Um let me give you a number real quick.
Uh, once again, it's one-eight hundred-nine four one Sean, or one-eight hundred-nine four one seven three two six.
And uh we have a couple minutes.
Let's go ahead and take a break uh with Jim.
Jim, uh love to chat with you.
What's what's your question?
Mr. Owen, I so appreciate your views.
Thank you.
It's an honor and a privilege.
My question is, and those of your views, uh those views of your guests, by the way, wonderful to hear.
Um my question is very simple.
Do you think, given your circle of influence and your circle of friends that the rise in the black conservative movement is something we're going to see grow and gain power?
Or unfortunately, would it be quelled by the old stereotypical Uncle Tom garbage?
Uh great, great question.
I have never been more excited about what I'm seeing out there in uh and across our country.
Uh and I'll say this.
First of all, I understand there's 28% of black Americans who have conservative values, even though 93% of us voted for Democrats in the past.
The greatest present of Obama was his in-your-face liberalism and his failure to deliver.
Uh, real quick, there is a increase of blacks on welfare forty, fifty-eight percent over the last eight years, decrease in home ownership for blacks down nine nine point one percent, decrease in black medium income.
I can go on forever.
No, what's happened is that black Americans are waking up and they're beginning to hear that uh uh that there's a better way because they've experienced what's happened the last eight years.
And I tell you, in terms of the Uncle Tom thing, that's getting a little old.
Uh, for those of us who don't care about it, uh to keep it right on, keep it up.
At the end of the day, we're going to make give the message to those who want to hear it.
And we're not trying to convince those who are Marxists and socialists.
I want to convince those who have the same values I do.
They love our country, but they might be voting differently.
They might even call themselves liberal.
But they will vote the right values and principles, and we'll we will end up pushing out our our community ahead.
So no, get ready for a sea change.
15, 20, 25 percent over the coming years of black Americans who will begin to demand both parties pay attention.
And I'm gonna love it because that's what it's all about.
It's not demanding respect, it's commanding respect.
Let's go out there and win big time to succeed, let's teach our kids that the this country is the greatest place in the history of mankind.
Uh and we do that and we'll be in a good shape.
All right.
Okay.
Thank you, guys.
Well, listen, uh, what just real quick before we go to the break here, again, for those who want to uh call in, it's uh one-eight hundred-nine four one Sean, one-eight hundred-nine four-one seven three.
On the other side, we're gonna have Colonel Alan West, a true guy that I really have a lot of respect for, a hero of mine.
So uh look forward to on this seeing on the other side.
See you a little bit.
Welcome back, everyone.
Again, this is the Sean Hannity Show.
My name is Burgess Owens, former NFL player with the Justin Raiders, and now uh happy to be part of your the bigger team.
Let's make America great again.
Uh you can reach us here at the number at 1-800-941-Shawn or 1-800-941-7326.
Uh, I'm really looking forward to introducing my next guest, uh, someone that I've watched for years and have uh uh respected his views, as his courage.
Uh and uh it's it's Alan West, Colonel Alan West, the former U.S. Congressman, Army veteran, and author of The Guardian of the Republic.
I also want to give another little shout out from my home state of Florida because Alan was also the very first African American Republican congressman from the state of Florida since eighteen seventy-six.
So again, uh uh Florida's uh is is is is hanging pretty tough right now for sure, for sure.
So Alan, are you there?
I'm here, and uh it's good to be with you, Burgess.
Merry Christmas.
America's my friend, for sure.
Uh you know, you have a very unique um position, you and Mia Love as being the only two uh re black Republicans that's been part of the the uh the the congressional black caucus.
So I wanted to to kind of get a little insight from you in terms of what goes on behind closed doors.
Uh and a couple of couple of my questions are gonna be kind of kind of uh light, and then I'm gonna get into some pol into the policies.
But um let me I guess first of all, kind of give me an idea of your the the district that you represented, the Florida's 22nd district uh in uh in the House, so we can get an idea what kind of people were voting for you for that position.
Well, it was interesting because in 1961, when I was born, uh Florida's 22nd district, which w runs along the coast from Fort Lauderdale all the way up through Palm Beach Island to Jupiter Inlet, uh blacks were not allowed on the beach at Fort Lauderdale.
And then 50 years later, when I was sworn in, I was the congressional representative of Fort Lauderdale, of Fort Lauderdale Beach in that area, and to include the uh I think it was uh how they put it, the uh per capita income uh zip uh highest per capita income zip code, which is Palm Beach Island.
So, you know, I had Mar-Lago was in the district uh and got to meet uh President Trump, you know, several times and had events at Mar-a-Lago, Rush Limbaugh was a constituent and coulter.
So it was a district that was ninety-two to ninety-three percent white, but that did not matter because what they were looking for were content of character, not color of skin.
And that uh is actually where I was getting to.
Uh it's it's amazing because I I I did look that up uh to get an idea of just what kind of area, and it's pretty reflective of uh of a lot of America, educated, middle class and up, diverse.
Um, and and of course they voted for you for your values, your background, your ability to articulate yourself, your your history and your courage.
Now, that being said, I have a question.
What is it about white liberal Democrats that could never ever ever vote for a black person to represent them in Congress?
Uh is there something I'm missing on this one?
Because it seems like every liberal black only is relegated to to work to represent only poor, uneducated, angry, and riding the crime com uh ridden communities.
And it's that doesn't seem to me to be a very inclusive way of looking at it.
Well, it's not an inclusive way of looking at it.
And if if you go back to the turn of the century, it is the Great Separation because you had Booker T. Washington, who I call the father of black conservatism, who when he established Tuskegee Institute, he believed in three principles education, entrepreneurship, and self-reliance.
And it was white liberal uh progressives who started the NAACP, and of course they put W. E. B. Du Bois in charge of the NAACP to counter all that Booker T. Washington was doing and what he stood for.
And of course, uh before the establishment of the NAACP, uh Du Boy and Washington were friends.
They were they were comrades.
But uh what they uh what the the people that founded the NAACP wanted was a different direction, and therefore you started to hear people later on in history talk about Booker T. Washington being a sellout or an Uncle Tom or you know, some of those other disparaging uh names.
Because it is all about relegating people to, and I'll be very honest, a an economic plantation, and to not you know putting forth and advocating the policies of education, entrepreneurship, and self-reliance, uh, which if you look at our inner city communities, look at how they've been decimated by the policies of the progressive socialist left.
Well, I tell you, first of all, that uh the NWSCP has been it's quite an education to see who those people were.
I'm gonna talk about that in the next segment, but uh I think people will be surprised at uh where that came from and and how they the policies remain the same, even though it's a different color now that's running it.
I'm gonna another real light question.
This is what is behind closed doors.
Uh you know, I there are certain certain things uh uh I guess black lingo that I'm hearing from the uh the black politicians.
And and I just want to get your idea.
Is this something that they they talked to each other this way behind closed doors?
Things like stay woke.
Now, uh my interpretation of stay walk, if we're gonna translate that to white language, is being engaged, be educated, communicate yourself.
But these guys use stay woke as a way to communicate.
Now here's another one, it's a great one here, and I don't know what this should be interpreted uh as.
Emmanuel Cleaver, in front of millions of people on the National Convention, said this, she won't be throwed.
Now he repeated it over and over again and almost dropped the mic because of standing ovation from this white crowd, she won't be throwed.
So I I'm wondering number one, is there is there is they do to talk to each other like this behind closed doors, or is it is it a reason why the black politicians use this Ubonic uh language to communicate what they're trying to get accomplished.
Well, I have to tell you, uh I really don't understand it.
Uh I don't know if they're playing to a certain crowd and playing to a certain image.
But I will tell you that when uh I was there, Emmanuel Cleaver was the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, and he and I developed a pretty good relationship because he knew he could come to me and I would give him an honest assessment and opinion, even though I was, you know, a conservative and I was from Florida, uh, he knew that he could trust me uh not to play politics with him, and I give you case in point.
He came to me and asked me what would I think about you know the Congressional Black Caucus bringing uh Mr. What's the name, Louis Farrakhan to uh to Capitol Hill.
And I told him, you know, if it I could answer as a Republican and say sure, go right ahead and do it, and of course I would slam him for that and and you know, make sure that he got all the negative publicity.
But I told him, do you really want to bring that dark dark specter onto you?
And and uh of course I would not agree with him in any way, shape, form, or fashion.
And Chairman Cleaver ended up, you know, rescinding the invitation to Farrakhan to come up there.
So he did trust my opinion and assessment.
Uh we worked together to make sure that the uh Montfort Point Marines, the first black Marines were awarded the Congressional uh gold medal, and we had a credible ceremony uh recognizing that.
But there is something about how many of the uh you know, African American representatives that are on the Democrat side somewhat uh advocate the policies of the left because they want to stay in position, uh because they want to be able to stay in that uh congressional seat or that senatorial seat that they have and not really advocate the policies that do better for them.
Uh or as in the case of Emmanuel Cleaver, who was an ordained minister, they're voting contrary to the principles that there's uh he was speaking about in the pulpit.
And that's that's uh actually the the point I was gonna get to next, because obviously what we're there to do, the the goal is not only to represent our country, but we have constituents.
We're trying to do the very best.
And there's certain policies uh that have really harmed the black community in so many different ways.
And I wanted you to if you can just list you say your top three, three or four policies that you think have made that have made that destructive pathway, and and and if there was any any giveaway or any c communication, any kind of debating with the black congressional Congress uh within behind closed doors is if this could these these policies could be changed because they were hurt in our our our communities.
Well, the first one I would say you go back to the great society programs of Lyndon Johnson and when he said that a woman that has a child out of wedlock will receive a check from the government with the caveat being she couldn't have a man in the home.
You know, when I was born nineteen sixty one, and I'm sure it's the same year, just a couple of days older than I am, but you know, the two-parent household in the black community was between seventy-five and seventy-seven percent.
From that point, nineteen sixty-five moving forward, now we see that the two-parent household in the black community is down to about twenty-four percent.
I think that when you destroy that that that basic foundation of the community, which was a strong mother and strong father, it's had incredible negative adverse ramifications in the black community.
The second thing is the stance of the Progressive Socialist Left and many of these uh African American representatives that uh do not agree with uh school choice, uh any voucher program or anything that competes against the standard of the National Education Association And American Federation of Teachers, the teachers' unions.
And so I think that again, not being able to have quality education in the inner city communities have have really been detrimental.
And the last thing comes back to, you know, tax policies and economic policies and and the lack of, you know, small business uh development and entrepreneurship in our inner city communities, which is completely different from when I was growing up, and you walk down Auburn Avenue and you see all kinds of small business and entrepreneurship.
So I think that those are the three things the family, uh the education, and then also the economic opportunities.
And and I think that it comes down to two to to this these two different things.
It's a difference between the equality of opportunity and the quality of outcomes.
The progressive socialist left is all about the equality of outcomes.
And what we're trying to do as constitutional conservatives is talk about their quality of opportunity.
Well, you know, I I tell you as we're going through that, uh the certain things that I have come to be really passionate about.
Uh uh, and and I guess the first thing is is we need to see courage, leadership.
Uh it it's it concerns me when we have people supposedly re uh supporting or representing us that literally stand strongly with passion against everything that would be right for the people there they're supposed to be re uh uh representing.
And I I have to I have to believe that these guys are smart enough to see the numbers, to see that that our community is trying trending in the wrong way for certain policies and to know that things like school choice, how can any black man or woman by that matter ever vote against anything that would keep our race, anyone in our race, poor, young, uh doesn't matter, not uh uh uh uh illiterate, not educated.
And and those are things that I I just have a very very difficult uh uh uh you know thing coming to and and again I think it's gonna come to a conservatives being strong enough and um uh confident enough to make sure that we can get the message out to people who have trusted these guys that we now need to change course and do another thing.
Now uh uh also uh Alan, I like to get an idea when you think about uh what you think would make our community great again.
You you again grew up in a time uh had parents that really taught you some basic uh themes of whether to be as the success.
So you grew up in in military families.
What do you think would would it take to get us back to that type of environment to once again be look at ourselves, be proud of our our future and and where our kids are going?
Well, first of all, you bring up a great point.
We need to have true principal leadership and not the charlatans that we see.
When I look at someone like a Maxine Waters, who is now a millionaire, doesn't even live in the district that she's supposed to represents, uh you know, and and talking about issues, you know, impeachment of President Trump when that's not important for the people of her district.
And as a matter of fact, there was a report that just came out this week that talks about how black unemployment, you know, in this year under President Trump is at a 17 year low.
So it didn't occur with President Obama where we saw the highest amount of black unemployment, it has occurred with President Trump.
So we need to have principal leadership.
I think the other thing is important to restore the uh the the sanctity of a two-parent family, especially with positive black male role models.
We have to restore that sense of respect and regard for authority in the black community, uh much the same as it was when I was growing up.
And we have to convey a message that uh you know, growing up to stay in Section A housing and expecting the chat from the government, that's not the new normal.
That's not the way of life.
You have to want to have greater and better.
My father was a corporal in World War II, my older brother was a Lance Corporal, uh, United States Marine Corps in Vietnam, and I would never forget as long as I live, when at the age of fifteen, my dad sat me down on the steps of 651, Kennesaw, which is in the same old Fourth Ward neighborhood that gave us Dr. Marlother King, and he challenged me to be the first officer in our family.
And that's what strong families do, and that's what strong positive black male role models do for their sons.
And also they set uh an incredible example for the daughters as well.
And that's what we need to have happen.
And to that point, um, you know, I uh I was asked earlier if I see a trend of uh of uh blacks beginning to kind of open up and look at other options and begin to have conversations.
Do you see a trending at all based on where we are now and based on even the policies that's now been put in place with uh with President Trump, a a a trending toward getting uh the black community thinking again about what what they've been told and possibly coming more conservative or at least becoming more independent.
Do you see that happening at all?
Yeah, I do see some of that happening when I'm out traveling and you know, and you even have young African Americans that come up and say, hey, you know, I know who you are and we appreciate you having a different perspective and you know I learned from you.
But the key thing for the Republican Party, if I can come back to party politics, is that they have to stop believing in what I you know they call outreach, which means they show up in in February and Black History Month and they do all the you know the circuit, and then no one ever sees them again until 60 days before an election.
They have to have what I call policy engagement.
They have to talk about the things that we're saying here.
They have to talk about the difference in their belief of the strong the strength of the family, uh the small business entrepreneurship, the education, all of these basic fundamental uh conservative values.
My parents were registered Democrats.
My parents voted for John Lewis when I was growing up there in Atlanta.
Alan we're kind of coming up against a hard break.
I want to thank you, my friend, for your courage, for your leadership.
Literally, I I I just I'm glad to be on the same team with you, my friend.
And uh Merry Christmas.
Have a great one, okay?
Merry Christmas.
Take care, man.
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Hello, everyone.
We're back again with the Sean Hannity show.
My name is Burgess Owens, uh, former NFL player with the Jets and uh Raiders.
Now a happy and proud member of the Let's Make America Greater Team again team.
So welcome back.
Um here a little bit of the uh the funny uh fake news, and it would be very funny if it wasn't so serious.
But we're gonna talk about that a little bit with our next guest.
If I said the two words to the sheriff, I think you probably know what I'm talking about.
It was David Clark, former sheriff of Milwaukee County, author of Cop Under Fire, Moving Beyond Hashtags of Crime, Race, Crime, and Politics for a Better America.
David, welcome.
How are you doing, my friend?
Burgess is great to be on with you.
Hello to your listeners and uh Merry Christmas.
Same too, same too, David.
Well, listen, I wanted to uh you had an article that uh uh really got my attention.
It's called Liberal Pol uh Politics and Media Fuel Milwaukee riots.
And this came out a little bit after uh the riots in in your area.
Uh you know, President Trump has branded the mainstream uh media as fake news.
And I think Americans begin to recognize uh that there is some collusion with the mainstream and there's a specific aim in game.
It's very targeted, it portrays those who trust who trust them, and uh in old days we used to call it propaganda.
But uh with that art that the article you wrote, kind of can you give an idea of some of the the highlights of of uh the politics and media that helped fuel those rights because obviously the message was already given for that small for that incident to happen to to take off the way it did.
Sure.
And you know, let me unpack that for a little bit because there's a couple of moving parts.
First of all, as it relates to the uh liberal media, uh they've abandoned their responsibility under the first amendment to be a government in Washington to not take sides, and as you indicated, Burgess, they become the propaganda machine for liberal politics, liberal policies in the Democrat Party.
And I think it's at a detriment uh uh to the entire nation.
As it relates to failed urban policies that I talked about then that continue to plague uh the black community, you know, some of this is is uh what ails the black community is self-inflicted.
When you have uh father of kids for multiple women and you don't uh raise those kids and you don't take on the responsibility of being a dad, that hurts.
When you don't stay uh in the work for uh consistently in the workforce uh to build up a a resume and a history so you can go on and and and move up in the uh uh income ladder with a better job, that hurts.
When you drop out of school and uh don't take education seriously, you know, those are the things that I I mentioned that are self-inflicted.
When you're when you make life questionable lifestyle choices like join a gang or or use and abuse alcohol and drugs, you're only going to hurt yourself.
However, some of those things have been fueled by fair liberal policies.
Well, one of them is the economy's been sluggish in many of these urban centers where where people can't find meaningful work.
The schools, the K-12 public schools are abysmal.
Even the kids who are going there on a consistent basis are not uh really being uh educated.
There's no learning going on, it's liberal indoctrination.
Uh when you see the crime uh levels in many of these neighborhoods uh where we're good peaceful uh blacks are just trying to make it through life, raise their kids, so on and so forth because of uh crime policies that have failed, you know, this revolving door that's been created, uh where they won't lock up for significant periods of time to change behavior, they won't lock up career criminals, they keep slapping them on the wrist, finding excuses for their ad warrant behavior.
So, you know, it's a volatile mix, and when you put those two things together, you're gonna end up with what we see um in many urban centers, and and it and this thing continues to plague the uh the black community.
And uh I tell you what I uh what I've come to realize is that this is not new.
Um this whole strategy of uh fake news is something that actually came after our race back in 1910.
I wanted to share this with you real quickly, and I have some some questions for you in terms of what the source might be at today and uh 2017.
A lot of people don't realize that uh back in 1910, the black community was one of the most competitive communities in our country.
I mean, I went through some of those things a little bit earlier.
And that was the same year that the NWAC was founded.
Uh for those who don't know, it stands for National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
The only problem is there's no colored people involved in any part of it, founding it or controlling it.
The NAACP was founded by 21 white, wealthy, socialist, Marxist, atheist, eugenics, race controlled democrats.
Now, the only difference today, it is now black, white socialist Marxists, atheists, race controlled democrats.
And but the the policies all the same.
And and you mentioned you mentioned some of those things that are right now plaguing our inner city.
These the school no no no school choice, uh no way, no ways of getting jobs because of uh of uh minimum wage, those kind of things.
So we we have we have I guess a couple of issues.
Number one, it's almost become an end of gentri in intergenerational uh radicalization or indoctrination.
So we have to get back and get our our young people thinking again.
At the same time, we have to change change these policies that will allow uh uh them to see the results of of what's happening in the past.
Uh you based on your the environment you grew you you were working in for 40 years or so, uh what would you say is the source within the y the urban community of this this uh this fake news?
Because a lot of these f uh kids or uh people in this arrêt arena are not looking at uh in N S B N B C or or Fox News.
So what would you say is is where this uh perception or self-view is coming from?
Well, the liberal media, you know, they're the the uh purveyors of this fake news, and it's led to uh I I mean it is it's it's done to mislead it's done to steer people astray um you know for over a half century as you indicated nineteen ten all the way through up to about nineteen fifty uh blacks were industrious they came north looking for work they didn't come north from the South when the uh when it changed from uh an agriculture based uh uh uh economy to the industrial
revolution they came north looking for money because that's where the industrial revolution broke out uh they were very they had they had intact families uh very religious people took care of their kids raised their kids worked hard in spite of some great odds with Jim Crow uh in the South and and even in aspects of keeping them out of the labor force in the North but they overcame that because they were they were industrious like I said they had an ability to overcome obstacles they thought for themselves.
The fake news as you know Burgess is designed to like I said lead people astray.
So we had a half century let's say from the nineteen fifties all the way up until uh uh the the the year two thousand where you see all of this propaganda the NAACP has lost its way there they've abandoned their mission of being a fighter for civil rights for all Americans and they become a lap dog for the Democrat Party.
So they sit up there and they're used to uh come out and and and call out Whitey.
They're used to come out and and play the race card and I think that it's been a like I said as as a detriment to um to everybody to all Americans.
So the but the fake news has been unmasked all right and and but for Donald Trump who took that liberal media on and he fought back and he pushed back he did something that your career politicians were afraid to do.
All the people in Washington they're afraid of him the the media so when the media slaps them around they just take it.
Donald Trump pushed back, exposed them for for what they were doing and it was fake news.
This stuff was all for the most part is all made up and uh like I said that's an example of of how the the liberal media has abandoned their their uh first amendment responsibility.
Well and I'll say this uh as I truly do believe that the the ideologies of uh Marxism and socialism there's just no good in it and basically it's a it's a it's ideal of stealth and to the idea of s of an N N W A C Palize that uh the first president was white.
Matter of fact they didn't get a the black president for sixty five years after it's be it began.
The very in in 1918 the anti-lyching law was was was was put together by the Republican Party.
Guess who stood again as the first guess guess of the first year?
The president of the NAACP.
He they finally changed their ways but you gotta understand this is the the mentality and the stealth that has been going on for a long long time and it's betrayal of a of a group that uh again a lot of good people have done within that organization have paid the price but it's the leadership that we had to look at over the time what their ultimate goal was.
There's also one other thing I want to mention that I think people might not realize when I talk about the the competitive nature of our times uh there's something called the Davis Bacon Act that uh was put together with only black ra only race that ever a Congress put together a law to keep us from from competing the Davis Bacon Act in 1932.
So what do you think, David, when you think about how we're going to get over this, how we're going to move on and make our communities great again, what would you say would be a few key points to make that work?
Yeah, before I get to that, I want to touch on this Bacon-Davis Act or Davis-Bacon Act.
I'm familiar with it.
It was designed to keep black people out of the trades, the better paying jobs during the start of the Industrial Revolution when blacks came north looking for workers.
work that's how they did it and of course that was Democrat led that was labor organization organized labor led.
Well what's gonna have to happen Burgess is first of all the the Democrats the Democrat Party the Liberals the Socialists they're all one and the same they're gonna have to get their boot off our necks so that we can stand up on our own two feet and become self-sufficient start to think for ourselves start to hold ourselves accountable.
One of the things that goes on uh and I think to a depth to the detriment of the black community is there's this unwritten rule that you can't self-criticize.
In other words No black could say anything about Barack Obama, even though his policies led to a growing unemployment uh uh among blacks.
It led to a decrease in homeownership.
But if you just said something as simple as, you know, I disagree with President Barack Obama's uh economic policies, and you were a black person, they came down on you like a ton of bricks.
You know, you were a sellout.
You were this, you were then and I said self-criticism.
You know, we're not all perfect.
Um, and so until we were able to take a look in the mirror and start with ourselves and see and say to ourselves and ask ourselves, what can we do better?
Not what can somebody can do for me, what can we do better to affect a different outcome in terms of all of these uh these pathologies that go on in our community?
And so until we're able to do those things, self-criticize and hold each other accountable, hold ourselves accountable.
It's gonna be very difficult.
But I think it starts with um with, like I said, Democrats, Democrat Party, the Liberals, Socialists to get their boot off our neck and let us stand on our own two feet.
Well, I tell you the first time you said that I almost stood up and applauded, but I held I withheld myself.
Uh but it's right a self-spot on, David.
It really is.
Well, listen, uh appreciate your voice, appreciate your courage.
Uh, we're on our way back.
Uh America, black Americans and Americans realize that number one they cannot, we don't want anybody's pity.
We just want uh the opportunity to stand around and we're gonna get that done.
So David, thank you so much for your example.
Keep it going, my friend.
Merry Merry Christmas.
I will my pleasure, Burgess.
Okay, listen, guys, again, our number is one-eight hundred-nine four one.
Sean, one-eight hundred-nine four one seven three two six.
We look forward to seeing you on the other side and see if we'll take some questions uh when we do come back.
Welcome back, everyone.
Again, this is the Sean Hannity Show.
This is Burgess Owens.
Uh, we have about three minutes for our next uh break, so let me just jump real quick to a call.
Uh we have Wayne from uh Columbia, South Carolina.
What's up, Wayne?
Hey, Mr. Owens, thank you for taking my call.
My question to you is how do you sell conservatism to the average black people walking around?
They seem so bent on being Democrat.
Fifteen years ago, my life was in shambles.
And conservatism basically saved my life.
It made me responsible, it made me care about my civic duties, and it made me want to raise my child in a way where she had a future.
And I'm just wondering since the policies of the Democrats really don't even serve black people, but for some reason they seem to vote that way in math.
How do we sell the ideology of conservatism to regular black people?
Well, what a great question.
What a great question.
And I'll say this.
Um what we need to do is live our lives, be confident, be bold, uh, and let people know who we are.
I mean, I think the biggest problem we have with our black communities, we have a lot of conservatives, but they're afraid to say they are.
Well, it's now time for us to put our race, our family, and our country first.
Be bold about who you are, guys.
I mean, all what what else can they do other than call your name?
And uh when I was taught when I was growing up, sticks and stones may break my bones, but words could never harm me.
I still believe that.
So let them let them call the names, but let's go ahead and and recognize what you're saying right now is how we get our country back one at a time by example.
And I I can't say I'll just say this.
Welcome aboard.
If I had time, I can tell you the my my uh conversion story, because I too was once a Democrat and I realized uh it wasn't working.
So welcome, bud buddy.
All right, uh congratulations and proud of you, and we're gonna get a lot more of Americans across the board to understand that uh the Geo Christian values that we've believed in and our ancestors believed in are are our way out.
So we go ahead and go into the next break here.
It's uh again the let the call here is 1800-94199.
I'm sorry, uh 1800-941-7326.
Hey gang, welcome back again to Sean Hannity Show.
My name is Burgess Owens, and uh let me give you a number real quick and call into uh 1-800-941 Sean, 1-800-941-7326.
Uh we've had some some really awesome guests, and I just appreciate it again uh uh being within the circle of people that really have such a love for our country.
Uh I've been asking everybody at the end of the end of the uh segment of what they thought it would take to bring our country back again, our community back again.
And I want to share my my thoughts.
I want to share this this segment with uh Clark Kellogg.
Clark is um he's uh uh in the former in a uh for in NBA star with the Pacers.
Uh he's now presently CBS sports analysis uh analyst, and uh so you guys have heard his his name and see heard his voice.
He's also on the board of a of a project initiative called the uh One Heart Project.
And I wanted to kind of chat about that for a quick second.
Before I bring Clark on, I just want to do this quickly.
How did I get to where I am today of having this passion and uh and and finding, I think, a way to make a difference.
My search began about thirty years ago when I tired from the NFL.
Um, you know, my goal at the point, you've heard about my my my past great community.
My goal was to some kind of way bring that back because I saw our trajectory going in the wrong direction.
And my dad and I spent hours upon hours over the last 20 years discussing a type of model that would do that to help kids as young as uh third grade, for instance, to develop critical thinking skills, to have an interest in science from agriculture to agriculture to uh submarine science.
Now, he he passed without having a chance to finish up.
He had a great impact, but he did not have a chance to see his dreams scaled out.
Last year I was visiting uh juvenile correction center down in Tampa, Florida, and I spent uh a couple hours with about 50-60 young men.
We're talking about second chances, entrepreneurship and attitudes, and and uh I was really asked a question that was pretty profound by one of the young men.
He said, Burgess, uh, once we leave here, you know, how do we put this behind us?
You know, we have a record now.
We have to go back to the community with no jobs, no education.
How do we leave this behind us?
And he was so sincere.
I I knew he was he was what I knew he was trying to ask me.
Uh you've given us some hope.
Now, how do we keep it?
And Ashley, I didn't have an answer to that, to be honest with you.
Um, you know, obviously you want to have a positive attitude, but but how do you answer that?
Well, la earlier this year I ended up planning to Indianapolis to sit in and observe the opening of one of the chapters of One Heart Project.
I had heard about it, and decided I'd just go up and and and and listen in.
And sitting there over the next uh couple days, I realized that this is exactly what my dad and I have been discussing for for decades only on steroids.
And we have chapters now in in Dallas and Indianapolis and Kansas.
And uh the goal very simply is to take what the liberals have discarded and turn it into our national treasures.
And this is young boys and girls who have just not had an opportunity to really understand how special they are and what they can do.
So I've invited Clark.
Uh he's on the National Board of uh the One Heart Project and wanted to bring on board real quick.
Clark, how are you doing, buddy?
I'm good, Burgess.
Great to be with you this evening.
Well, listen, I I really enjoyed talking with you when we talked a little recently, and uh and you know what I thought would be good.
Uh first of all, uh I'd ask you to do something for me, and that is how did you become aware of this?
And it didn't just start at one point, it was a process.
How did you become aware of the program and what is it about it that kind of brought the empathy of you and to to wanting to connect with with these young people?
Well, you know, Steve Rich is the chairman of the board for the One Heart Project and actually founded a nonprofit organization called the Heart of a Champion, which basically revolved around character education, life skills education geared towards juveniles, those who are at risk in terms of trying to change their direction.
And um being one who's enjoyed the benefits of athletic competition and education through athletics and uh a solid lower middle income class upbringing.
Um I saw that this was an opportunity to maybe give kids um a second chance that maybe have gone astray.
Um so really back in the late 90s, I became aware of the Heart of a Champion, which again was mentoring programs, life skills development programs, character development programs geared towards helping our young people realize their potential.
And out of that one heart, that Heart of a Champion Foundation's work came the One Heart Project Initiative, which is about re-entry and redirection for incarcerated youth and at-risk youth to give these young folks a sense of hope.
And again, through um tried and true programs around character development, life skills development.
Also the positive impact caring adult can have on this community.
And you combine and partner with local and national service organizations, Burgess, and connect people with a heartbeat for our young folks to try to redirect and reorient them, those who have gone astray and those who are at risk to give them an opportunity to feel hope, to see hope, and to embrace hope for what their future can be.
And I'll tell you, that uh that sums that that word hope is a remarkable feeling, and you know, many of us have no idea what it feels like not to have it, but there are people who live this way every single day of their lives, not knowing what the next day.
Matter of fact, in the uh on the on the video, uh one of the guys that was introduced is a young man named Mac, who's in his uh late teens, and he didn't he had no hope of making it past 21 years old because that's basically what he saw around him.
So uh how how has it worked out so far in terms of the actual success?
I mean, have you uh have you had a chance to see Oh man?
I I tell you it's an it it's amazing the impact and the change of direction that can happen.
Again, it's a combination of a lot of people.
Obviously, the one heart project initiative has been embraced by um a number of folks across the country.
Over uh twenty five states now have um some form of the one heart project in place.
Um thousands and thousands of uh of young kids have been impacted in a positive way, and that continues as this initiative grows.
Um but you see, Mac White is a case in point, a guy who was being released from the juvenile um prison system, um, had no idea how to go about finding work, changing direction, and through mentoring, character development,
life skills development, connecting him to resources in his community, he's now gone on to become a um positive, productive contributing minor m uh member of society, and that is duplicated across the country in in terms of hundreds of of at risk kids and also those who have maybe already entered into the juvenile system.
One of the things that I found really interesting, again it's it's all about measurability also want to make sure that these ideas are working.
And I I'll just say this also.
We we talk about the fact that seventy percent 70 percent of uh these these young men and women do not have fathers.
Well, the ones that find themselves in this environment being locked up, there's eighty-five percent of them that are fatherless.
At the same time, the residualism take rate normally in the traditional world is 70 percent.
Well, with one heart is down to eighteen percent.
So I'm very excited about that.
Uh and let me just let me just do this because while I have you, because I I I wanted you to in introduce yourself in that way of turning the background because I want people to realize realize that this is what what we're all about.
It's we the people.
It's uh it's you.
Uh you know, Clark, you're a black guy.
Well, Rich is a white guy.
When I go back to I talked about the Underground Railroad, my my great great grandfather who was black, but he was helped out by Mexican and Germans.
That is the we do.
We do things together.
And and it's all because of the foundation that's made our country great, the deal district values that make us help us see each other from inside out, not outside in.
And and that's one thing that that we'll have to as a country really recognize and uh Avita uh King mentioned it.
We are truly one race.
And once we really understand that, then we recognize that that what what other people feel, we could be feeling the same way if we're in the same sort of situation.
Uh so it's important to to recognize that and and move forward.
Uh let me let me ask you, what uh uh what exactly was there anything particularly that you have dealt with in your past to kind of help you also to see this this process happen uh with you know No question, no question about it, Burgess.
I mean, all of us have challenges and struggles throughout our journey, no matter how successful we appear to be, whether it's friends or family or extended family, and this hits home really close for me because my dad was a policeman in Cleveland where I grew up for over 40 years.
He was work he worked in the juvenile units um as a as a young police officer, and I got to see some guys in my community that were going the wrong direction, be positively impacted by a program called the Police Athletic League at the time where young were police officers and and the community would rally around juveniles that maybe were at risk,
that perhaps were heading down the wrong road and would be able to be redirected through the caring of adults, caring of police officers, and one heart project is much like that.
Um I've got a younger brother who's had some major issues throughout his life as a result of being led astray.
And so it's hit home from the standpoint of families, but also just in our communities.
You see it happen so often where kids maybe not having the same foundation, the same direction in terms of under their roof, and then they get involved in the community and go go astray.
And then um you've heard stories and I've seen great testimonies of folks that because there were adult people that cared that showed them another direction.
And it's regardless of race, income level, class, again, to your point, and you articulated it so well, seeing each other from the inside out, recognizing that uh values are timeless, um principles for success are timeless, the things that are needed, love and concern and compassion and offering hope and a second chance.
Those are things that we can all do.
That's not something that one population or one particular group of people have a market on.
That's a r that's a call and responsibility for all of us to take and be engaged in and involved in, especially as it relates to our young folks who are going to become the leaders of the future.
What are we doing to invest in their growth and their development and in their chances for success?
And I tell you, uh, hitting that point, uh, what are we doing to invest in?
And I want to say this because what has made us so unique again as a country, is that it's more than just feeling sorry for people.
Our country has always been one of service.
We go out and we roll up our sleeves, we figure out how can we help, how can we be part of it.
And that and in that process, we actually fall in love with each other because we're helping, we see ourselves in a better way, and those who are helping being helped begins to appreciate us in a different way.
So it is it is again more of a program than just throwing money.
Uh the programs we're gonna need, the way we're gonna change our country in the future is basic understanding that we need to make sure that our kids have the same hopes, the same vision, the same belief that their future will be as great as we thought uh when we came through.
That is our responsibility.
And uh if we fall short of that, I don't care how rich and wealthy become, if we do not allow our kids to stand on our shoulders and move forward with even better opportunities and and needs then we've we failed.
And and uh this is why I'm so excited about the the the folks that we're gonna talk about throughout this day.
And I do want to I do want to leave this, uh say this with you too, that I because I wanted to have you on here when I when I mentioned this.
Um Clark lives in uh Columbus, Ohio.
And uh just so happens, I was born in Columbus, Ohio.
Now this gives you an idea, this kind of gives an idea of the greatness of our last generation and what our new generation is now doing that is really making a difference.
Uh Clark actually works uh you're on uh on the board of uh one one of the boards of uh Ohio State, if I'm correct in my if I'm correct.
That's correct, yeah.
Serving on the board of trustees.
My alma mater, which I'm um extremely proud of.
Well, let me tell you why we were in in uh in in Columbus, Ohio.
My dad came back from the war and he wanted to get his PhD.
And down south in Tallahassee, that was illegal.
It was Jim Crow laws that could not do it.
I now I ran across papers after he passed away of of he and his um and my uncle, all papers crossed the country of of of rejection letters.
They finally, and it was because of the ranking that in the school at Pear View, I knew what it was.
It was all about the race.
They were they were accepted by Ohio State.
So my dad got his PhD uh uh in a and agronomy, my uncle got his PhD and and uh economics.
I was born in Ohio and uh in Ohio, and I probably would have tried to go to school there, but it got uh I realized being a Florida boy is too cold to try to play football there, so I didn't even even consider it.
But but my point is this our race in the past, the people, the generation, black and white, they were winners.
They weren't whiners, weenies, and wimps.
They didn't complain.
Not once did my parents tell me about the trip from from Texas to Ohio and the struggles they had or or the rejection they had.
They just talked about the the power of winning and moving on and having a great life after after that.
And now we have here in 2016, uh, black people that have proven themselves, proven value, and now on the board of trustees at Ohio State, which we all respect, whether we are for them, against them, we respect them.
And that's how far we've come, and that's why we have to make sure we understand this is the place that those kind of things can be can be done.
This is the place of all places that we can dream big and it become a reality.
So we're gonna have to kind of close this out, Clark.
I really appreciate you, buddy.
I appreciate your efforts.
I appreciate the friendship.
I appreciate the friendship you have with Rich.
And at the end of the day, that's how we make things happen.
Okay.
So thank you, buddy.
Appreciate that very much.
And we're gonna go ahead and uh and and break one more time here.
Uh we have the numbers again for you guys.
1-800-941, Sean, 1-800-941, and Steve Rich is who I was talking about.
So, okay, we'll see you on the other side.
Okay, guys, we're back again.
This is uh the Sean Hannity show.
My name is Burgess Owens.
I can't say enough.
Uh, this has gone by so fast and such a such an exciting uh day it has been.
Thank you so much for the Sean Hannity team.
That's just awesome.
The guys have done such a great job here.
Um I also want to leave you real quickly how to catch up with me.
Uh my website is Burgess Owns, W Burgess On's Talks dot com.
My book again is uh the best uh uh Amazon bestseller, liberalism or how to turn good men into wineries, weenie's and wimps.
And I just wanted to say a couple words before we let you guys go.
Number one, uh Al Davis said it best in terms of of what America does, we know that we're in a fight.
We now we now know we're in a fight, right, guys?
So what do we do?
We just win, baby.
That's what we do.
So uh let's get to it.
Uh also uh my favorite, my favorite thing, and I want everybody to keep this in mind is you we all go through our struggles, we all go through those times, we just wonder when it's gonna end.
Keep this in mind.
It all works out in the end.
If it hasn't worked out yet, it's not the end.
So keep that in mind, and that's the way our country will continue to grow, go and grow.
We're gonna win this thing, my friends.
We're waking up.
And uh our values that that we start off with will continue to support us and drive us as we teach uh our young what those values are.
And once we do, uh, there's nothing gonna stop us.
So I'm very excited about that.
Uh have a Merry Merry Christmas gang.
Let's enjoy it and let's make this next year the best yet, okay?
All the best.
Take care.
Talk to you later.
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