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If you want to be a part of this program, we got so much good stuff that we are going to fill these three hours with.
I think you're going to be on the edge of your seat, which is our job to keep you interested and informed and up to date on the news and information you won't get from the destroy Trump, hate Trump, despise Trump, leftist media.
They hate being called out too.
And it's just a fact.
You know, this president, what happened last week with the president?
He is now getting more done alone by himself than Congress could ever get done in eight years.
And what we're watching unfold before our eyes, and we're going to get into this.
I know we met with Mitch McConnell.
Oh, we're good friends.
They're not good friends.
They hate each other.
Let's be honest.
I don't believe that for a second.
Excessive expectations about how quickly things happen in the Democratic process.
So the president last week, I explained to you through his executive action.
It's basically a 1974 law that applied to corporations in this country.
For example, a lot of corporations, they have offices in California and New York and Dallas and Atlanta, wherever they happen to have them.
And corporations would be allowed, they'd be exempted from state-mandated health laws, which become extraordinarily burdensome, and then ACA Obamacare laws.
And if you form a association, corporation, or you're in the same business as somebody, now those same benefits apply to anybody that wants to form an association.
Now, why is that good for you?
That means that you have more purchasing power, the more people you get in your association.
I used the example last week of if everybody that works in radio in whatever part of the genre, doesn't matter what format, but everybody from the salespeople to the, well, we don't have program directors anymore that are worth their salt in a lot of stations today.
Some are great.
We don't have enough of them.
And then, but it doesn't, if you work, you know, as an engineer, if you work as a producer, if you work as an on-air talent, if you work in behind-the-scenes and affiliate relations, whatever it happens to be, you could all associate together.
And then we could buy a plan with, let's say, the purchasing power is 5,000 people.
And you get 5,000 people that all want health care plans.
Now you start negotiating with Aetna and United and Blue Cross Blue Shield.
And you say, all right, we have 5,000 customers that are going to need health care.
Some have pre-existing conditions.
That would be a part of it.
And you have different plans you negotiate out.
You know, some would include, you know, mandated top-of-the-line checkup every year for everybody.
Some wouldn't, but some would be inexpensive.
Then one option might be just the catastrophic plan for people, which is if you have a high deductible $5,000, $10,000, you don't get any insurance help unless you have really serious injuries, a heart attack, God forbid you get cancer, have a bad accident.
But one by one, this was literally a knife to Obamacare.
And the people that have figured it out are the Democrats.
This is it.
And this is a death knell.
And they're going to be challenging it and judge shopping, I'm sure, in the days and weeks ahead.
I don't think they're going to win.
I've read the law myself and my feeling on it.
This is going to be pretty rock solid.
And the president was well within his rights to do it.
But he's doing the same thing on burdensome regulations for business.
He's doing the same thing on climate issues, which is, for example, helping the coal industry.
Now we have clean coal.
Now we were lowering our production every year because of Obama regulations and Hillary not even wanting coal business in this country.
And now the coal business and the coal industry is now thriving.
And the same thing with fracking.
And now he opened ANWAR.
And the same thing with free trade, negotiating free trade agreements.
Then you've got health care.
Then immigration, illegal immigration is down 70%.
Now he's negotiating the money for the wall so that we can build it and we can bring it down to zero.
The same thing with Iran in foreign policy, decertifying this bad Obama deal there.
I mean, he's not just sitting around doing nothing.
And he's literally systematically just striking down one Obama policy after another and chipping away at all the damage that Obama did.
And if he can't get Congress, the House and Senate to get along, then, all right, well, then he's going to do everything he can do on his own.
And that's why his approval rating keeps going up and Congress's approval rating keeps going down.
So you've got literally record low approval ratings, but record high consumer confidence because people see what's happening.
Businesses are feeling the impact of the positive changes.
And then now we just have to rely on the Senate.
The House is out this week.
Now we just have to rely on the Senate to do their job.
And they're in session this week.
And so we'll see what happens.
The president is ratcheting up pressure on the GOP Congress over health care and taxes.
And several times he said that his decision last week would push Democrats to cut a deal with the GOP on short-term fixes to Obamacare.
He's right.
He could probably get some more wins that way.
And I don't see any evidence of this on the Hill.
I just see anger beginning to come out of the Democratic Party because he's doing legal things that are giving people better options and choices, which is what all Republicans had promised on their own.
And it's just sad that they can't get their act together.
So the Senate, they were off last week.
The House is out this week.
And the Senate now is going to focus on their action of their budget outline for 2018, which is what the House did.
Assuming they can get this done, I hear they're going to have a hard time doing it.
But the Senate's going to try and vote this week on a budget framework for next year, which means some tough votes along the way for spending and tax reform.
And we're beginning to then get in place the foundation to have this tax reform and the president desperately needs if we want to grow the economy and create jobs and get people off of food stamps and out of poverty and back into the workplace.
So those are the things that are happening on that front, and it's all good stuff.
And you don't hear a lot about it in the mainstream media because they're just obsessed with anything that they can that they think that they think negatively impacts this president.
They're never going to say a good thing about the president.
Where did I see this tweet today?
The vice president.
NBC News ran a thousand Trump stories with anonymous sources, but they refused to run Harvey Weinstein's story with police reports and eyewitnesses.
You had one of the rape victims of Weinstein willing to go on tape with Ronan Farrow.
Ronan Farrow got the woman because NBC said, no, he actually got his own film crew and then sat down with the woman.
She told her story.
And if it wasn't for the New Yorker, you know, he wouldn't have had any other place to go.
And now they look bad, just like the New York Times had the story back in 2004, and they look bad, too.
That means that everybody helped enable Weinstein.
Now, let me tell you what's happening here with all this Weinstein stuff.
Then we'll get Colin Kaepernick, by the way, claims he was blackballed by NFL owners.
And he's got Mark Garagos, who's a very good attorney.
Mark Garagos is a kick-ass attorney on his side.
So that's going to be interesting to watch unfold.
Anyway, so Hillary literally has taken a fall in London, we're told, and that's forcing her to cancel her book tour there.
I was running down the stairs in heels with a cup of coffee in hand.
I was talking over my shoulder and my heel caught and I fell backwards.
So she's done with her book tour.
Now, the problem is, is Hillary now is out there and sounding dumber every day.
Listen to Hillary this weekend, you know, talking about Donald Trump in the White House.
We've elected someone who's admitted to sexual assault.
You are a beacon of feminism.
You talk for women's rights.
You knew Harvey Weinstein well.
At what stage?
And you must have known the rumors about him.
Harvey will be Harvey.
No, I did not.
I did not know.
But everyone knew rumors about him.
Not specific cases, but everyone knew that Harvey Weinstein, apparently, in his circle, was a little bit, you know.
Well, all I can tell you is that I did not hear those things.
Look, we just elected a person who admitted sexual assault to the presidency.
So there's a lot of other issues that are swirling around these kinds of behaviors that need to be addressed.
And I think it's important that we stay focused and shine a bright spotlight and try to get people to understand how damaging this is.
And the women coming forward is the only way that that story will be told.
This kind of behavior cannot be tolerated anywhere, whether it's in entertainment, politics.
After all, we have someone admitting to being a sexual assaulter in the Oval Office.
There has to be a recognition that we must stand against this kind of action that is so sexist and misogynistic.
And this depends upon women coming forward and having the courage to come forward.
And yet in your book, the three women brought onto stage by Trump attacking your husband, and you kind of dismissed them.
Was that the right thing to do?
Are you sure about that?
Well, yes, because that had all been litigated.
I mean, that was investigation, as you might recall, in the late 90s, and there were conclusions drawn, and that was clearly in the past.
But it is something that has to be taken seriously.
As I say, for everyone, not just for those in entertainment right now.
The president never admitted to any sexual assault.
And when the New York Times ran that piece, it mentioned a former girlfriend and Carrie Préjan.
We put all the women on and they said the New York Times purposely took them out of context.
So she's not telling the truth.
And I'm not sure if she hurt her ankle.
Okay, I'm sorry.
But the bottom line is she can't deal with her book tour anymore because of her husband.
And we have new details emerging every minute.
Harvey Weinstein helped bankroll Bill Clinton's Lewinsky defense.
Slick Willie.
And she was the one out there on all these shows, a part of a group smearing and slandering and besmirching and character assassination of, let's see, Paula Jones drag a dollar through a trailer park.
You never know what somebody's going to say.
And the left took it.
The left accepted it.
His numbers never went higher.
They didn't care.
And then we find out Weinstein helped bankroll that defense.
And Weinstein questions now have the Clintons on the run because now the world has changed.
And now Hillary would have to actually admit that the real person that was guilty of sexual assault was her husband.
And she'd have to ask questions of her husband, which did she ever ask him?
Did Paula Jones lie to me?
Is she lying to the country?
Did you really show your penis to Paula Jones, pull down your pants and say, kiss it?
Did you fondle, grope, kiss, grab, touch Kathleen Willie, or did you not?
Because that's what all the accusations are.
And she never said a word.
You know, now the Clinton Foundation, they won't even return the $250,000 in donation that Weinstein gave to the Clinton Foundation.
Just like nobody in the media except me during this election kept saying she's taking money from countries that abuse women, severely abuse women.
Marital rape, not a crime.
Domestic abuse, not a crime.
Not voting, not driving a car, told how to dress, and then kill gays and lesbians.
Wow.
Sean Hannity is saying, why would you take money from a country that kills innocent people and imprisons a group of people, women, and you're the great feminist, and then persecutes Christians and Jews?
So the DNC, they're keeping the money.
The Clinton Foundation is keeping the money.
And then Hillary's now lecturing the world about sexism and misogyny is an epidemic in society.
And yeah, your husband got away with almost all of it.
Slick Willie.
And you didn't say a word.
Just like you took the money of countries that practice Sharia and they bought your silence.
And you're keeping Harvey Weinstein's money too, because money means more than these phony words that you're uttering out on the campaign trail.
Where do you hear the stories about the casting couch?
We have an actress and a singer.
It's in the music business, the movie business, the TV business, modeling business.
It's all over the place.
And liberals have known about this for years.
Hollywood knew, the Democrats knew, the media is known, and they did nothing.
Bunch of phony hypocrites.
Where do you hear the Kaya Jones story and the Tracy Melcure story?
Which are you going to hear today?
All right, the latest with Colin Kaepernick.
We'll get some calls in here, too.
I see the people are phones ablazing, as we say, and I know we've got a lot to get to.
We do have one bit of good note on Vegas.
Everybody's writing me.
Everybody has a different theory.
Everybody's asking what I know that I'm being told.
I don't know why the guy, the security guard canceled Mr. Campos the other night.
I'm not judging it.
I'm not making determinations over it.
And I know that the Twitter and the social media verse went insane over it.
He's welcome on the show anytime.
I'm frustrated like many of you that we don't have more answers as to what really happened here.
And we need answers.
This guy can't be a total enigma.
You know, he can't be a ghost.
I'm not buying that.
One bit of good news: a young woman, Tina Frost.
I'm pretty sure I met this girl's mother.
I think.
I had a discussion because she told me, I met a woman who told me her daughter is in a medically induced coma.
And so maybe it's her.
I don't know.
Anyway, the good news was she was a victim and she had a bullet that struck her in the forehead.
And she woke up late Friday and took her first steps in sustaining this bullet to the forehead after being shot by this madman.
And she opened her eyes and, you know, took a little look around the room, started tapping whenever the music that they played.
Her mother was there.
She said in a statement, anyway, she was hit by one of the bullets.
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America deserves to know the truth about Congress.
Do you support what has happened for Democrats returning any type of contribution money that they've received from Weinstein over the years?
Well, I think the allegations are shocking and they keep coming out.
And I think that, you know, the dismantlement of his company is absolutely necessary.
He is saying that it was consenting adults involved in, you know, these allegations.
I think that it is outrageous that he needs to be dealt with, that women are getting absolutely tired of being taken advantage of.
You know, this story about the casting couch has been going on for years in Hollywood with more than even Weinstein.
And I think it's about time that we move very aggressively to put an end to it.
He deserves to be punished.
He deserves to have to be accountable for these allegations if in fact they're proven to be true.
And I don't think that these many people would be coming out with these charges unless something was going on there.
And what about the money?
Are you supportive of the DNC?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yes.
They should give it back to him because, first of all, they may not have known what was going on, but the fact that they now know.
They know now.
They know now.
They ought to give him the money back and make sure that the word goes out that the Democratic Party does not welcome that kind of money coming into our campaigns and dealing with, you know, our elections.
It is not to be accepted by us.
When you're on my time, I can reclaim it.
Can you play more of the Reclaiming My Time, please?
Reclaiming my time.
Okay.
This is like a conversation with my producer, Linda.
Please.
Because I thought I was allowed to answer questions.
Reclaiming my time.
Who's time?
I'm a news.
You shouldn't leave ambassadors.
Reclaiming my time.
No, I'm not.
I'm not.
No, I am not Maxine Walters in this.
I have to say, though, it never gets old for me.
It's funny every time she says it.
And it's really scary because she's an elected official.
She actually represents our government.
Oh, my gosh, that's so scary.
Anyway, Reclaiming My Time.
Reclaiming My Time.
Reclaiming My Time.
Anyway, interesting what she had to say about Weinstein.
It's so amazing.
They're trying to make this about Donald Trump.
And it's not, you know why it's not going to work?
I'm not going to let them make it work.
And I am going to point out every Democrat that won't give the money back and the Clintons starting with them and apply every word that Hillary's now using to her husband and to her blind eye taking money from countries that abuse women and kill gays and lesbians and persecute Christians and Jews because I wouldn't take a penny from any of them.
It's unbelievable.
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All right.
I want to tell you about Colin Kaepernick with the NFL owners now slated to meet in New York.
We have a great debate later today, Burgess Owens and Joe Theisman.
Theisman, former Washington Redskins quarterback, and Burgess Owens, former NFL Super Bowl champion.
Anyway, at Slated in New York this week, in their fall meetings, now you've got Colin Kaepernick filing a grievance against the league stemming from his lack of employment, and he has hired big league attorney, a guy by the name of Mark Garragos.
If you've watched cable news over the years, you know Mark Garagos is really good at his job.
Anyway, it's a grievance which apparently Kaepernick's attorneys are seeking expedited discovery, including depositions and document production, which is an enormous request, which if granted would seek to draw out any informational exchanges that league employees, owners, and even front offices have about Kaepernick.
NFL general counsel was made aware of the grievance by Kaepernick's representatives on Friday, and the grievance is expected to allege that NFL teams, specifically owners, have worked in unison to keep Kaepernick out of the league, violating the collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and the Players Union.
And the grievance has been filed.
Although he didn't use the Players Union to file this, which is weird.
It's been filed under the terms of the CBA that were signed by the League and NFL Players Association in 2011.
Now, look, this is a guy that I thought had a lot of potential, Colin Kaepernick.
But he led the San Francisco 49ers to the Super Bowl following the 2012 season.
And then he remained unsigned since opting out of his contract in March.
And the 49ers were planning to release Kaepernick during the offseason.
And had he not opted out of his deal?
And he's accusing owners of collusion.
Well, he's also, you know, we were talking about this last week.
He also wasn't the quarterback he once was.
Now, what happened in the year that he had that was so bad, Jason?
You're a football expert here.
He was just playing awful.
I don't know.
The thing I noticed was that the 49ers brought in a bunch of receivers.
They wanted him to throw the ball more when they were a run-first team, and it didn't work out.
He wasn't a classic dropback passer.
They wanted him to stay in the pocket, and it didn't work out for him.
And he just progressively got worse.
He made coaching changes.
I mean, Harbaugh knew how to do it.
He did what?
And then they, yeah, and then so he's out.
He's opted out.
This happens in the NFL all the time.
This is not breaking news.
His fall was so precipitous, though.
I mean, he was as good as there was in the league, and he just crashed and burned fast.
No, listen, he was selected by the 49ers in the 2011 draft.
He led the 49ers to the Super Bowl in 2012.
He came out of nowhere and the NFC championship game the following year.
Then he seemed to implode.
There's a great article I read about this on Google.
And over the next two years, his throwing arm regressed.
His overall skills.
These are their words, not mine, as a rushing quarterback diminished.
Injuries only made matters worse.
And the team finally gave up on him, which is very common.
Look at the Jets.
How many quarterbacks have the Jets had in the last stable quarterback they ever had was Joe Namath?
I mean, that's how far back the Jets.
He was fine, but as I said, Joe Namath was only the real franchise quarterback.
Not a fan of Ken O'Brien either?
Actually, I think the guy this year is doing pretty good.
Ryan Fitzgerald had a good year, the one year he did it.
I thought he did really well.
Yeah, Fitzpatrick had a career year and then turned back into Ryan Fitzpatrick.
This is such a, you know, I love this.
Everybody said it's so easy to be a quarterback.
I think there's very few, you'd have to put Tom Brady in a class of his own, I think.
You just, you can't get over the guy.
Eli Manning, when he's good, Peyton Manning was great.
Joe Montana was great.
You don't have many great, great quarterbacks, franchise quarterbacks that make Aaron Rodgers is great.
Too bad he broke his collarbone yesterday.
That's bad for the Packers.
They were on their way to having a great season.
You know, what's his name?
Now owns or is the manager of the Broncos.
John Elway.
Yeah, John Elway was a great quarterback.
Dan Marino was a great quarterback.
But Dan Marino couldn't get the ring his whole career, but he was with Miami.
Just because he doesn't get the ring, I mean, he's a great fran Tarkinton was a great quarterback.
And an excellent businessman.
I used to love Kenny Stabler back in the day.
Remember, Roger Stahlbach?
Roger Stahlbach.
And I like the new quarterback the Dallas Cowboys have.
Dak.
Dak.
My son loves Dak.
My son has more Dak gear than anybody that I know.
I'm like, how did you become a Dallas Cowboys fan?
And he gives me a great answer.
You know what he says?
Dad, they're America's team.
Why aren't you a fan?
That's a pretty darn good answer.
What about your boy Drew Brees?
He's going to the Hall of Fame.
He will go.
Drew Brees is a class act.
You know, and it might be, you know, I actually think in the case of Tim Thibault, he was punished for taking a knee in prayer, which, you know, do we want these athletes to be some role models or not?
Which I thought was, but I think that hurt him because it became a distraction.
Everyone forgot that he was the guy that won an overtime for the Broncos and got them to the championship, the AFC championship game.
Why are you looking at me?
You sound like Stephen A. Smith now.
Doing it again.
He had one game.
One game.
And it was a big game and a big moment.
Let's forget that the Steelers lost five starters in that game.
You could have thrown against the Steelers.
Let it go.
What happened to him in New England next week?
They lost.
Well, New England's tough to beat in the family.
They got blown out.
Listen, you got to give Bill Belichick.
He reminds me, he's the Knicks Sabin of professional teams.
Bill Belichick always puts tenants.
Yeah, I mean, Belichick always puts a good team on the field.
And Belichick, I love Bill Belichick press conferences.
All right, start firing questions at me.
Go ahead.
You guys go.
Ready?
Go.
What color are the uniforms?
Yeah, the same as usual.
Yeah, next.
Why did your team give up so many points?
Just one of those days.
Is Tom Brady hurt?
No.
How is team morale?
Good.
It's like when I bring my kids on the air over the years.
How was school?
Good.
Patrick was amazing last time.
I don't remember.
Did he talk?
Yeah, he knocked it out of the park.
You were having him recite the six rules or the five rules.
Oh, yeah, daddy's not the seven rules actually.
And you gave a seventh.
You added a seventh on the air, and I said, Patrick, I can't.
No, no, the seventh was in place for a while.
And he totally went.
He's like, absolutely, Linda.
That was an addendum.
It was just added last week.
My daughter's getting, you know, it's funny because my daughter, you could know her for a year and not know that she's crazy and fun and talks a lot.
She just, she'll wait until she gets comfortable with you and then, God help you.
It's hilarious.
Just like her father.
Great.
All right, let's get some phone calls in here.
Let's say hi to Jonathan is in Tennessee.
Jonathan, how are you?
What's going on?
Good.
How are you doing, Mr. Hannity?
I'm good, sir.
What's going on with you?
I just wanted to call.
Thank you for all you do because, you know, you do a great service with your programs, both on radio and on Fox.
And I want to let you know that you're part of my inspiration.
I'm actually going to be putting my name in for the upcoming senatorial race in the state of Tennessee as just your everyday common man.
You know what?
That's the guy that I want in office, a guy that's not going to make this a lifelong career, that's going to go serve, make the right decisions for his state, for his community, and go home.
That's the guy I like.
You know, Donald Trump's only going to be in office eight years, and then he goes home.
Yep.
And I'll tell you, by the time he leaves, he'll be glad to go back to his old life.
And he didn't do this for the money.
He didn't do it for the fame.
He did it because he wanted to serve the country.
Everybody seems to forget that part.
And, you know, some people, there are so many people that do it for all the wrong reasons.
Well, good luck, Jonathan.
We wish you the best, my friend.
Stephen Spokane, Washington.
What's up, Stephen?
How are you?
Good afternoon, Sean.
A thought occurred to me.
The Democrats are so anxious to give back all the money that Harvey Weinstein donated.
Why don't they get back all the money that Bill Clinton's raised for them over the decades?
Shouldn't they do that?
Yeah, I think absolutely.
Absolutely, they should give the money back.
And the fact that the DNC is not giving it back, Clinton's not giving it back, just like she's not giving back money from Sharia countries.
They bought her silence.
And it shows what a total hypocrite.
Everything that the left says about conservatives, they're guilty of.
They're the ones taking money from countries that abuse women, kill gays and lesbians, and persecute Christians and Jews.
I'm sick and tired every election of being called racist, sexist, misogynist.
One of the biggest lies ever told was about Mitt Romney.
He had women's resumes, and they wanted to excoriate this poor man as being a misogynist because he had their resumes that he wanted to hire them.
What a horrible human being.
Let's go to Elizabeth, Boca Raton, Florida.
What's going on, Elizabeth?
How are you?
Hey there, Sean.
Thanks for the phone call.
Thanks for listening.
And thanks for all your hard work out there.
I just wanted to touch base on the Weinstein story.
It just, when I heard it, I wasn't shocked and I wasn't surprised, okay?
I'm a former New York City girl, born and raised, big family, and it's like Hollywood at its best.
And Hillary's statement that she was surprised by his behavior, and I'm looking at this story and I'm like, wait a minute, Bill Clinton, Weiner, Weinstein, everyone she surrounds herself with, they're creeps, they're corrupt, they're liars, and all of Hollywood is shocked by this.
But my thing is, I'm watching this story unfold and I'm like, somehow the media and Hillary and her camp or whoever it is behind the left scene is trying to stick this story to Donald Trump.
And they're baiting him.
It's almost like she's baiting him.
She's like, come on.
Yeah, there's some man in the White House, you know.
And it's just amazing that nobody talks about that, how she baits the president.
And I guess they don't want to give her any relevance.
I hate talking about her on air or to anybody because it gives her relevance.
But it's just offensive as a woman.
All these women saying they're shocked, all these women saying it happened to them.
And they were the ones going around the last two years pointing the finger at Donald Trump and standing for women in Washington.
So it's like, wait a minute, 20 years you're an actress and you're allowing this man to work with young women and young men knowing what he's done to you.
And you're standing in Washington telling us that you care about us and you're defending us against this person that you find so offensive.
But the people that are offensive are the ones supporting her.
Her and her friends did more abusive things to women in terms of smearing, slandering, besmirching them than I've ever seen in my lifetime.
Don't lecture us on women.
All right, 800, good call.
Thank you, Elizabeth.
800-941, Sean.
All right, at the top of the hour, you're going to meet two women, that one in the music industry, one in the television movie industry, and both of them have gone through horrific experiences, and they're speaking out.
That's next.
Then we have Burgess Owen and Joe Theisman.
Then we'll check in with our friends from the Freedom Caucus, Mark Meadows, who's going to join us today, as well as Congressman Tom Garrett Jr. of Virginia.
All right, when we come back, how bad is Hollywood, the music industry, the modeling industry, the TV industry?
You're going to meet two women victimized in a major way.
And we have Mark Meadows, chairman of the Freedom Caucus, also Tom Garrett, Congressman from Virginia.
Then Burgess Owens battles it out with Joe Theisman over the latest as it relates to Colin Kaepernick.
And I want to remind you, well, we are now counting down two weeks in counting to the release of my movie, Theaters, that it is debuting in is on Hannity.com.
The movie's Let There Be Light, and we need some in light of Hollywood's awful behavior.
So hour two of the Sean Hannity show, 800-941 Sean is our toll-free telephone number.
If you want to be a part of this extravaganza, we have a lot of news as it relates to the Clintons and the Democrats and money that they got from Harvey Weinstein.
I mean, it is pretty, the amount of money we're talking about is pretty insane.
And anyway, so we have some new statistics out here, and some of them are pretty shocking.
And one of them, for example, is that all the money that was given by Weinstein to the DNC, they're keeping 90% of the money.
The Clinton Foundation is keeping $250,000 of the money.
You know, now Weinstein questions have Bill and Hillary and Chelsea on the run.
And Hillary actually made some comments this weekend.
And let me play them for you.
You are a beacon of feminism.
You talk for women's rights.
You knew Harvey Weinstein well.
At what stage?
And you must have known the rumors about him.
Harvey will be harmful.
No, I did not.
I did not know that.
But everyone knew rumors about Harvey.
Not specific cases, but everyone knew that Harvey Weinstein, apparently, in his circle, was a little bit, you know.
Well, all I can tell you is that I did not hear those things.
Look, we just elected a person who admitted sexual assault to the presidency.
So there's a lot of other issues that are swirling around these kinds of behaviors that need to be addressed.
And I think it's important that we stay focused and shine a bright spotlight and try to get people to understand how damaging this is.
And the women coming forward is the only way that that story will be told.
This kind of behavior cannot be tolerated anywhere.
And this depends upon women coming forward and having the courage to come forward.
And yet in your book, the three women brought onto stage by Trump attacking your husband, and you kind of dismissed them.
Was that the right thing to do?
Are you sure about that?
Well, yes, because that had all been litigated.
I mean, that was the subject of a huge investigation, as you might recall, in the late 90s.
And there were conclusions drawn.
And that was clearly in the past.
But it is something that has to be taken seriously.
As I say, for everyone, not just for those in entertainment right now.
Oh, really?
Were they litigated?
Not really.
And the case, yeah, you did have to pay Paula Jones $850,000, but Hillary was part of the effort.
And now we find out Harvey Weinstein helped bankroll the Clinton-Lewinsky defense at the time.
And remember the treatment of Kathleen Willey and Jennifer Flowers and Paula Jones and Juanita Broderick.
Really?
Just apply all of those words to her husband, who was in the White House.
And she knew it.
She defended him to the nth degree and said, and they smeared and slandered every one of those women.
And then, of course, she takes millions and millions of dollars from countries where women are told how to dress, they can't drive, they can't vote, they can't travel, that marital rape is not a crime in these countries, and even domestic abuse is not a crime in these countries, where gays and lesbians are often killed just for being who they are.
And then, of course, you have, you know, Christians and Jews.
You can't build a temple in Saudi Arabia.
You can't build a Christian church in Saudi Arabia.
And she took tens of millions of dollars from those countries, and they bought her silence because she doesn't say a word about it.
What a phony.
Anyway, joining us now is Tracy Melcure is with us.
She's an actress, entertainer, best known for her roles on One Life to Live, The Bold, Beautiful, and Sunset Beach, author of the book, Breaking the Perfect 10.
Kaya Jones, formerly with the Pussycat Dolls, who has a great single out now, by the way, here to discuss the ongoing allegations of Weinstein.
And she was quoted over the weekend as saying that when she was working and singing for the Pussycat dolls, they were basically hired prostitutes who were owned and controlled by those with the money.
Kaya, welcome to the program.
Hi, thanks, Don.
So what do you mean?
So you were part of a very successful band, the Pussycat Dolls.
Okay.
What do you mean it was like a prostitution ring?
When I say that, what I mean is that prostitution is accepting money for sex.
And literally what I meant was we have girls that wanted to sing just like many girls in this business want to sing or they want to act and we're propositioned.
And in order to move forward in your career, you're given an ultimatum or an opportunity to sleep with an executive or be pushed onto somebody in a high platform in this business.
That's exactly what I meant.
Whether it's a job or you're taking cash, what is the difference?
Prostitution is prostitution.
And so, but did you ever feel you were forced to sleep with people if you wanted your career to move forward?
100%.
And I chose not to, which is why I've had to do it independently.
This whole road has been a hard journey of struggling, not having funding, having to do it on my own, creating my own work, working with producers, finding them on my own.
I walked away from the pussycat dolls because I was not willing to outsleep my bandmates.
They all need to come forward.
They all need to come forward.
They all knew.
And our dead mother who controlled us, she knew too.
Everybody did.
That is so sad.
Have you run into good people that like your talent, your voice, your performances, and just are in it because they like what you do?
Oh, of course.
You know, yes, there are good people in this business.
It's hard to find them.
Most people that have had to turn a blind eye or walk away from situations, you know, I've come into contact with now.
I think it's a beautiful time right now.
There's a movement in this country of a lot of love and God, and you can feel the energy of positive affirmations coming forward, which is why all of these people are being exposed because they're downright evil, what they do to young women and to young men.
So this is in the music business, the modeling business, the television business, and the movie business.
It's everywhere.
Oh, it's everywhere.
And that's why you're seeing it all with this colluding with, you know, Congress and people in government because it literally, you know, look at the Hillary Clinton campaign.
It's all of these celebrities, which she had no idea.
Come on now.
Everybody is friends with each other.
You know, you utilize celebrities to get your narrative out because they have a pull or they have a focus.
So everybody's friends with each other, and of course they know.
Wow.
Now, Tracy, you have a heartbreaking story in your experience as an actress.
Let me play in exchange.
It's a little hard to hear of you being on Larry King Live and what you said in this interview.
This is back in 2005.
Listen to this.
My sister and I met a couple guys on an airplane and we went to this, they invited us back to their apartment or something after.
Yeah, and I don't even really remember what or where if it was, it's all foggy at this point, how we got in this situation with these guys.
But we had just met them and they'd invited us back to their apartment.
There was two guys and me and my sister and we went with them.
And it was, you know, we're going to drink at Tequila.
We had this big water bag.
Not proud of that.
But the next thing I knew, and I really believe that there was some sort of a date rate drug or something in the pot was waste or something because the feeling was so bizarre.
It was, I felt like I passed out.
I felt like I was going to pass out.
I passed out and I wake up in a bedroom with the guy and he's raping me.
But I am physically unable to speak, to stop him, to move my body in any way.
And I'm completely aware of what's going on.
Did you bring charges like that guy?
No.
Why not?
I guess the same reason most people don't.
It's the shame, the shame of it.
Like, well, why was I there?
I was smoking pot and drinking tequila.
Why did you go to a apartment?
You must have some attraction.
Yeah, I was attracted to him, and I was, what was I thinking?
And I felt like I deserved it, in a sense.
This is closed as I was in 10.
Now it's open again, right?
Well, actually, no.
It just fatally cemented my belief that, you know, your physical body and your feelings just need to be suppressed.
Tracy, so you were raped in this incident, and it sounds like what was alleged with Bill Cosby, that they drugged you, and you're half dazed and confused.
And the next thing you know, you wake up and somebody's raping you when you're in a bedroom that you don't even know how you got there.
Exactly.
And it's sad when I listen back to that.
You know, because you grow up and you understand more and everything.
And it's like, It's just so sad because I think so many of these women, and I don't know if Kaya can relate, but I mean, I had so many issues from my childhood where I didn't feel like I had self-worth.
And I just wanted to matter.
I wanted to be important.
And I realized at a very young age, as a woman, you are never more valuable than when you're naked.
And you never have as much of that male attention that, you know, like I was craving from father figures.
You're number one to a guy when you're standing in front of him naked.
And that was like the payoff for me was like, nothing is going to distract this guy from me right now.
I matter.
And that's what I craved.
That's the, I'm listening here as a guy.
And what, you know, and I have sisters and I have a daughter.
And that this is a father's worst nightmare, what you're both describing it.
Quick break, right back.
We'll continue.
All right, as we continue with Tracy Melcure and Kaya Jones, who have experienced a lot of what we've been discussing regarding Harvey Weinstein, and it's more common than anybody knows.
This is the casting couch syndrome, is that they bring you in, and let's say you have a naturally talented ability to sing like Kaya, or Tracy, you had a natural ability to be an actress.
And so you're brought in and you put on the casting couch, and immediately you begin to realize that, oh, you can get the job, you'll get the gig, but there's a quid pro quo associated with that.
How often did you both experience that?
To me, it was never quite direct like that, but it was, we, you know, that your connections in the industry are how it works.
You know, it's who you know, right?
So it was just for me, I wanted to associate with them.
And the first time was I was out at a club in Hollywood with a girlfriend, and the guy came up to us and he's like, you're too pretty to wait in line.
Do you guys want to get into the club?
I can get you in.
And we're like, yeah, sure.
Well, next thing you know, we're sitting next to a very well-known Hollywood producer.
And, you know, we're kind of schmoozed the whole night.
And I was with my girlfriend, but the guy gave me his card at the end.
And he's like, I can get you into a lot of other places and meet a lot of people.
And I was like, oh, wow.
Okay.
And, you know, I was like, is he like a manager?
And he kind of like acted like he was the manager, but he was more of a handler.
And it was like, hey, oh, hey, so we're going to this restaurant, meet us.
And that's how it started.
And the next thing you know, you're back at their house, you and a group, and you're all like having a good time.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You know, you're by yourself with two executives and one of the girls from the group.
And you're at a house, you know, in Malibu.
And you're like, what are we doing here?
And where are their wives?
And where is the rest of the girls?
I wanted to just say, I had somebody who at 12 years old was the first time I was assaulted.
It was an 18-year-old boy.
I had an older sister.
She had friends over.
They were all, and this guy wandered off into where I was watching TV and attempted to rape me.
And somebody came in at the very last second.
And I just, I think it's really important to differentiate the difference, like sexual assault, I feel like it's such a broad term and it's kind of thrown around almost like there used to be a joke I heard where what's the difference between sexual assault and flirting as if he's cute.
And I think it's important because some people I hear now, everybody's like, oh, I've been assaulted.
And their stories are pretty mild in my, you know what I mean?
And I don't mean to discredit them, but you're talking about being a victim of real assault, real rape, and really dangerous situations.
It's so sad to hear this.
It breaks my heart.
And it just is, it's painful to hear it.
And I can only imagine the pain and the trauma you'll live with.
I don't guess that you really ever get over trauma like this.
Kaya, do you get?
I mean, I know you're tough, but do you ever get over?
I couldn't imagine it.
No, I don't think that you can ever get over being violated or mistreated in any circumstance.
A lot of my mental state and what I feel that I have had to overcome is the mental and emotional abuse that came along with the sexual advances.
Having to try and get through certain seeds that are planted in your mind and you allow them to grow, but they are planted and they're planted by people in powerful positions that are holding your dreams.
And so you, in some way, think equates.
Like, if I don't tell, then, you know, loose lipstink ships and I can continue in this company or business.
And you play on those narratives where I'm finally speaking out because I, you know, saw what Rose came out and said.
I've been speaking out since 2005.
So disgusting.
I mean, Tracy, I want to get your last thoughts on this.
I disagree with Kaya.
I think you can get over it.
A big part for me getting over it was taking responsibility for my part in it.
Why are you blaming yourself, though?
I mean, I don't know, but I'm not blaming myself.
But just starting to change how I engage and putting myself in those positions, right?
And I became a Christian.
I felt all of that could be washed away.
I put all my faith and my hope and everything in God now.
And yeah, when I talk about it, I mean, I had to call my best friend and cry on the phone with her before I could do this interview.
And there's still pain there, but I feel like you're not a forever victim, you know.
But there's still a raw nerve here.
I mean, I hear it in your voice.
I've known you for a while.
And I mean, I hear pain.
I hear trauma.
I hear abuse.
Yeah, I do too.
I just want to give hope.
I don't want to be like, oh, my gosh, you know, I just, I'm not a victim card type person.
And I just really want, if there are girls listening, that there is hope, that it's not like forever.
I have, I've been married for 18 years.
Can I just add one thing to this?
There are good people out there.
And there is a lesson for girls, never put what you want above what is right for you.
In other words, yeah, maybe you want a music career, modeling career, movie career, TV career.
But if you're not going to be working with good people, don't sell your soul for any opportunity because it's not worth it.
Thank you both for, I know it's painful to share your story, but it brings to life exactly what we're talking about and what so many women have gone through and how this is so institutionalized.
I said it last week.
This is the tip of the iceberg.
All right, Tracy, we appreciate you being with us.
Same Kaya.
We'll see you both on TV tonight.
Mr. President, Senator Steve Bannon's warm on the Christmas College.
Well, Steve is very committed.
He's a friend of mine and he's very committed to getting things passed.
I mean, look, I have, you know, despite what the press writes, I have great relationships with actually many senators, but in particular with most Republican senators.
But we're not getting the job done.
And I'm not going to blame myself, I'll be honest.
They are not getting the job done.
We've had health care approved and then you had a surprise vote by John McCain.
We've had other things happen and they're not getting the job done.
And I can understand where Steve Bannon's coming from and I can understand, to be honest with you, Jen, I can understand where a lot of people are coming from because I'm not happy about it and a lot of people aren't happy about it.
We need tax cuts.
We need health care.
Now we're going to get the health care done.
In my opinion, what's happening is as we meet, Republicans are meeting with Democrats because of what I did with the CSRs because I cut off the gravy train.
If I didn't cut the CSRs, they wouldn't be meeting.
They'd be having lunch and enjoying themselves.
All right.
They're right now having emergency meetings to get a short-term fix of health care.
Our relationship with this gentleman is outstanding, has been outstanding.
We are working very hard to get the tax cuts.
We will continue to work hard to get the health care completed.
I'm going to be surprising some people with an economic development bill later on, but I haven't even told Mitch because I want to focus on tax cuts and some other things right now.
All right.
That was the president earlier today after his meeting with Mitch McConnell.
And yeah, a lot of people are frustrated.
And what they're referring to is that Steve Bannon of Breitbart has said he's going to war against establishment Republicans, and people like McConnell have to go.
Well, it's not unfamiliar, if you listen to this program, what I think about Mitch McConnell and his inability to get things done.
Now, in fairness to the House, and they haven't been exactly perfect either, but they got the health care bill done.
They were able to send over 280 bills, some really good bills, Kate's Law, the Sanctuary City bill.
We did get finished, thankfully, the Vets bill, but there are 280-plus bills that the Senate hasn't even picked up that the House has passed.
And that means the Senate's not getting their job done.
And now they're going to, I guess, go forward with the budget today.
And then after that, they're going to deal with the tax cut bill.
Whether or not this is going to get done, I don't know.
Joining us now, one of the few people in Washington I actually trust to keep his word and work hard is the chairman of the Freedom Caucus, Mark Meadows of North Carolina, Congressman Tom Garrett Jr. of Virginia.
He's also a Freedom Caucus member.
I know you spent a lot of time talking to these senators.
Where do you think this stands at this moment?
I mean, where's McCain?
Where's Mr. Crybaby Corker?
Where is, you know, where's Susan Collins?
Where's Lisa Murkowski?
Where are all these people on the tax cuts?
Well, Sean, thank you for allowing me to join you and be with your listeners again today.
I can tell you that it is still a work in progress.
I am more optimistic on the tax reform side of things.
I believe that the Senate will pass a budget this week.
I was on the phone with Secretary Mnuchin, you know, literally within the last hour or so working on making sure that we don't fumble.
You know, we fumbled twice, as your lead-in would suggest, on health care.
We got down to the final votes, and they weren't there.
Whether it was Senator McCain or the leader's inability to put together a coalition in the Senate, we can't afford to fumble this time.
And the growth of the economy depends on it.
And so it's all hands on deck this week.
But I am optimistic that it'll pass.
I think we'll end up with the vice president casting a deciding vote on the budget and that we'll go ahead and move quickly to the business.
So do you think the budget gets done this week in the Senate, the one that was passed last week in the House?
Well, I think that it'll be a different budget.
They'll do one that'll have a $1.5 trillion holding.
It'll go to conference, but that conference will be a very quick conference committee that'll actually just make sure that we can get the tax cuts and put it across the finish line and get it to the president's desk before the end of the year.
What do you think the odds are?
Because I was a little higher.
Now, to be blunt and honest, you know, Mitch McConnell, oh, you know, there are these artificial deadlines.
This needs to be done this year.
I mean, it's amazing that the president had to act on his own on Iran, act on his own on health care.
The only reason health care won't collapse next year is because the president was able to thread the needle with this 1974 law that allows corporations to buy across state lines, and it also eliminates the burdens of state regulations and ACA regulations.
Well, Tom, you got it right.
Yeah.
All right, Tom, go ahead.
No, well, I mean, look, the good news is that I think that even Mitch McConnell is starting to feel some pressure.
The bad news is that he should have to feel pressure in order to be compelled to do his job.
And so, you know, yeah, we passed something out of the House on health care, and it died in the Senate.
You know, the antitrust exemption for health insurers passed the House and languishes in the Senate.
But we were founded by people who knew that by putting their names on the Declaration, they were putting their very lives at risk and they were willing to do it because it was the right thing.
We've devolved into a political class of people who only do what they think they need to do to perpetuate their own power and notoriety.
And it's shameful and un-American.
But praise God for folks like yourself and Mark Meadows who are getting the word out.
We have a discharge petition in the House right now that would put a full repeal on the floor with a two-year sunset so we could actually debate and do our jobs on health care.
Even Barack Obama said the Affordable Care Act has real problems.
Unquote.
8% of the GOP conference has signed onto this discharge petition.
This is identical to the bill that 100% voted for when President Obama held the veto pen.
So, you know, let's get members to put their money where their mouth is, find out who was telling us when they ran for office, John McCain, that they were going to do something, and now they've had multiple chances to do it.
And then we need to understand that it's our responsibility to serve the people and not ourselves.
And if we do that, we'll get back to what made this country great to begin with.
Boy, you really have some shy and, you know, really reserved members of the caucus there, Congressman Meadows.
Well, I can tell you, I think we're like a lot of your listeners.
We're tired of excuses.
It's time to get action.
And whether it's on health care, and actually the president has had to go it alone.
You know, we've seen several executive orders in the last couple of weeks that actually will start the process of lowering health care premium.
But he can't go it alone on tax reform because it's all about cutting those taxes.
I can tell you, Jim Jordan and I are meeting with Democrats to try to make sure that if we have a failure on the Republican side, whether it be in the Senate.
How is that going?
That we have, you know, it's actually going very well.
I've had some real good conversations with both House and Senate Democrats that realize that we've got to get this economy going.
And I'm not going to rely on just a John McCain or somebody to hold this up at the last minute.
We've got to perform, and we've got to actually support the president's agenda.
I'm optimistic that we'll get there and get it across the finish line by Thanksgiving.
Well, I hope.
So I was told that October is the month, and this is what Paul Ryan told me: October, this should be done in the House, and November was the Senate's month.
Is that on track, assuming this bill passes this week?
Well, assuming this bill passes this week, you know, Tom Garrett and I have been working real hard to make sure that we do our part, and we did, as you mentioned, last week.
But I think by Thursday of this week, we'll see a budget come out of the Senate.
It'll go to conference very quickly.
Hopefully, we take it up the last week in October in conference and then start to put the actual tax reform bill start coming out of ways and means in the House and the corresponding committee in the Senate.
But really, people could care less about the process.
What they want are the results.
And you're right to hold Congress accountable.
Well, I think if they don't get this done, I don't even see a future for the Republican Party, to be honest, because I don't care what Mitch McConnell says he's going to do next year, but the people that need the benefit of these tax cuts, the middle class, the forgotten men and women that made this election what it was, their patience is running thin.
My patience is running thin.
And, you know, I was happy with what the president was able to do on his own last week for health care.
At least it gives groups and associations an opportunity to use the purchasing power of many to lower down their premium costs, and they can buy the best plans across state lines, which corporations have had the benefit of doing, and they can buy different plans.
And, you know, to me, that just makes the most sense.
But, you know, it took the president acting on his loan again, just like it takes the president acting alone again on Iran.
The president keeps ticking off his list of promises, and you're not getting a movement out of Congress.
And by the way, I saw Congressman Garrett.
I saw that you had some death threats prior to a town hall you were in.
Everything work out all right?
Well, look, I served in the Army.
They tried to kill me there, too.
So we'll be all right.
Sean, the Constitution of the United States is the most amazing foundational document ever created by man.
And President Trump is having to work around the Constitution to accomplish things, which tells you there's a real problem with the people who populate the elected body.
And let me shamelessly plug here.
If you go to TomGarrett for Congress.com, you can see if your congressman has signed on to the discharge petition for a full repeal.
We have a list of names and a thank you.
And if they haven't, ask them what was different in 2015 when they voted for the exact same language other than the fact that they knew the bill would be vetoed by President Obama.
Let's see who meant what they said.
We've been down this road.
I mean, we discovered there's 100 House colleagues of yours in your party that never had any intention of repealing and replacing Obamacare, which then led to people like Mark Meadows and others having to thread the needle and just get the best we could get.
And it finally got out of the House with one vote after working for two months to get that done.
And then in the Senate, seven people that voted just to repeal only back in 2014.
And how many of them had TV commercials saying they wanted to repeal an apartment?
Well, I mean, do you want me to start with who, John McCain, and then we could go on from there?
I mean, it's mind-blowing, but the system's worth the greatest country on earth.
It's worth saving, but when you have a Senate full of hostile people towards the president, it makes it difficult.
Yes, sir.
Well, Steve Bannon is getting criticized for calling for really an all-out warfare on the GOP establishment.
But, Sean, you've been saying that for some time, is that if they're not willing to legislate like conservatives, then we need to find people who will.
And I think this is for the first time.
But we've always been able to blame it on somebody else.
We've been able to say, well, we didn't have the Senate, so that was the problem.
Well, the American people gave us the Senate.
Well, then we said, well, we don't have the White House.
And so the American people gave us the White House.
We are out of excuses.
It's time to deliver.
And if we don't, then you're right.
I think that the midterm elections will be devastating for the GOP majority.
And ultimately, the majority hangs in the balance.
I've got to be honest.
I don't think I can support any of these people if they can't get this done.
I really don't.
All right, stay right there.
We'll continue.
More with Congressman Mark Meadows.
He's the chairman of the Freedom Caucus and Congressman Tom Garrett of Virginia, 800-941.
Sean is on number.
More with Mark Meadows and Congressman Tom Garrett Jr.
Straight ahead.
All right, as we continue with the chairman of the Freedom Caucus, Mark Meadows of North Carolina and Congressman Tom Garrett Jr. of Virginia.
All right, let's go through the timeline here because you guys are on vacation this week, but you already passed the budget, right?
So now the Senate will take up their version.
And what?
Then it goes to conference and hopefully to the president's desk?
Well, what they will do is they'll actually two things will happen there, Sean, is it will pass in the Senate, I believe, by a narrow margin this week.
It'll go to conference.
We'll come together.
We'll actually pass a budget with reconciliation instructions.
It's those instructions that are the key component to deciding what we're going to get in tax cuts for middle-income wage earners, for corporations, for small businesses across the board.
And so this is the first step of what I would say a three-step process.
The second step will happen very quickly.
The third step, really, the jury will be out until the end of November to see if we can actually come and vote on a tax reform package that actually lowers rates and puts our economy back to play.
So the end of October, critical, and then another critical stretch towards the end of November.
And what's your take when you speak, Tom Garrett, Congressman, to some of the Senate colleagues, when you guys run into each other?
Don't most senators think that they're above talking to you, low lives in the house?
I'm going to say so.
And what world do you live in where senators actually speak to the likes of me?
No, I think that the best thing that's going on right now is that there's actual pressure for people to do their jobs.
And meanwhile, again, parallel, it's the worst thing that's going on because we shouldn't need to feel pressure to do what we said we were going to do when we ran for office.
That's the fundamental flaw.
It's not the system.
The Constitution and our system is amazing.
The component parts are broken.
But I do think we're going to get something done.
Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan's leadership is really inspirational to me.
But I think that the reason it's going to happen is that the American people and embodied by the actions of the president are fed up with rhetoric backed up by nothing.
Well, I just think if they don't act now, they don't get this done after the colossal failure of Obamacare.
I think most Americans, I think Steve Bannon is going to get that much more energized.
And frankly, if Senator McConnell can't get this done by the end of the year, I want him to leave that position.
All right, Congressman, we appreciate the job.
The only people I really trust in Washington is the Freedom Caucus at this point.
A couple of senators, not a lot of them.
All right, we'll take a quick break.
News roundup and information overload.
Yeah, now it looks like Colin Kaepernick's going to sue for the right to play in the NFL.
He says he's being discriminated against.
Burgess Owens, Joe Theizman, they weigh in straight ahead.
Stay right here for our final news roundup and information overload.
A lot of people, I was surprised watching all last year with Colin Kaepernick.
Guy praised a murdering thug dictator.
He had socks that depicted the cops as pigs and other issues.
He actually donated to a charity that actually supported a cop killer.
And then we saw the NFL.
And you took it on, it appears based on the letter that Roger Goodell put out yesterday that Donald Trump initiated a debate over standing for the flag and our anthem and those that fought blood and died.
And looks like you won.
So I watched Colin Kaepernick, and I feel he's terrible.
And then it got bigger and bigger and started mushrooming.
And frankly, the NFL should have suspended him for one game, and he would have never done it again.
They could have then suspended him for two games, and they could have suspended him if he did it a third time for the season, and you would never have had a problem.
But I will tell you, you cannot disrespect our country, our flag, our anthem.
You cannot do that.
All right, news roundup and information overload hour on the Sean Hannity Show, 800-941 Sean.
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We have some developments.
Well, I saw the 49ers back on their knees again this weekend.
One of the teams took a knee.
I saw the Patriots do it in the Jets game.
They turned their back and got on the knees at that point.
Who else did it?
And the New Orleans Saints.
And the New Orleans Saints.
Probably worse than everybody else's.
Yeah, unbelievable.
Anyway, Colin Kaepernick is now taking a stand, and he's now the most polarizing quarterback in what is a free agent pool.
And he's filed a grievance against NFL owners for collusion, alleging the league entered into an enforced, implied, or express agreements to specifically deprive Kaepernick of employment.
And he's got Mark Garragos is now his attorney, is a pretty good attorney.
I've known Mark for many, many years, very aggressive and tough.
And anyway, Kaepernick filed under the collective bargaining agreement, not through the NFL Players Association, and he's hired Garrigos, a lawyer who has represented a lot of high-profile clients like Michael Jackson and many others, and was very, very outspoken during the Clinton impeachment years.
So where does this go?
There's also a town hall article on Roger Goodell killing the goose that laid the golden egg.
And basically, the piece goes on to say that, you know, by him not taking a stand as he has with other free speech issues, it is now hurting the league and hurting it greatly.
Burgess Owen is with us, NFL Super Bowl champion, author of the brand new book Liberalism, or How to Turn Good Men Into Winers, Weenies, and Wimps.
And Joe Deisman is with us, former quarterback for the Redskins and host of the NFL show Playbook.
Welcome both of you back to the program.
Thanks for being here.
Glad to be good to be with you, Sean.
Thank you.
Hey, Joe.
Love you.
Good buddy.
Looking with you again, my friend.
It's been a long time.
You too.
I know.
You guys weren't friends on the football field, what I remember.
I'm just saying.
I'll get Sean told you.
Joe used to get us up all the time whenever we played him, believe it.
Listen, at that time, Joe was the person.
One of the worst films to ever watch is when Joe gets his leg broken.
And that was a career-ending break for him, which was a tough break.
Well, thank you for bringing that up.
Well, I bring it up because every time you're on, I get like 100,000 emails saying, did you ever see it?
Here's the video.
And I'm like, I don't know.
Oh, I know.
Well, listen, first, let me say I appreciate people caring as much as they do.
I really do.
But, you know, fortunately, I'm able to do everything I want to do.
But, you know, for me, it was a life-changing experience.
But this is also what we're going through now is basically, I think, an NFL-changing experience.
When Colin Kaepernick first took a knee, and I believe it does disrespect the flag.
I believe it does disrespect the veterans.
And I believe that you should stand for the national anthem.
That's my feeling, and my stance hasn't changed one bit over that period of time.
But now it has mushroomed into something so much more that you have sponsors of the NFL stepping in and considering possibilities going forward.
And this is a groundswell that has come up now.
And there are a lot of people who have a lot of opinions about what is taking place in the NFL.
Do you like what you're saying?
No, I don't.
No, I don't either.
And neither does I.
I don't.
No.
And I think this is bad for business.
I honestly think Roger Goodell has allowed this to get out of hand.
And I'll give you a couple of examples.
You can't twerk.
You can't taunt other players.
You can't put 9-11-01 on the 15th anniversary of the worst terror attack and put the words, never forget on your cleats.
Those are all, quote, violations of freedom of speech.
Nobody had any.
The Dallas Cowboys wanted to honor those slain officers last year with an emblem on their helmets.
They were denied that opportunity.
And Roger Goodell didn't do anything here.
And it's really odd to me that he doesn't.
Well, can I tell you?
Go ahead.
Can I make a real quick, quick point about why this is such a good thing for us to happen?
Because what we see here on the sidelines has been action attack on the black community for over a decade.
These young men that are very, very successful cannot leave behind what's been taught to them by the Marxists and the socialists within the black community.
It's been an anti-black, I mean, anti-white, anti-white, anti-American, anti-flag.
There's been a sentiment that's been going on for years, and it's been purposely put there.
So even when those are successful, cannot reach back and say, guys, this is the greatest place in the history of mankind.
Let me show you how we did it.
Because in their mind, they were lucky to break out.
So I'm glad we had this conversation because Americans do what they do best.
Now we know when to fight, let's get in and help these young people to recognize the enemy is not white people.
It's not America.
It's not the flag.
Is socialists and markets, blacks and whites, who purposely bring misery to our race so they can get their power.
And once you identify who they are and what they're all about, we're going to truly root out this evil that has been put in and put in place over the last few decades.
You know, Joe, one of the things that I love about the NFL, and I mentioned this when this controversy first arose.
I mean, at the end of games, I mean, you got two teams, you got professional players, they're all doing their job, and they're warriors out there, the best of the best, and they're all trying to kill each other in many ways and win the game and doing everything they can do to win the game.
And then often after the game, players, both teams, would get in a circle and they'd say a prayer.
Sometimes the ref even gets in, and it's black and white.
It's not a matter of race on the field.
You know, if you look in the stands, you know, people love the players.
They love the talent.
They love the gifts that's on display.
They love the game.
They love the game and they love those that are the best at the game.
And it's now, because it's now become so political, people are pulling out.
I've never been less interested in the NFL than I am this season.
And I'm getting more and more comments from people as I travel around the country expressing the same sentiment.
But here's my point.
Where does it go now?
I think after the Colin Kaepernick kneeling, there could have been a possibility of maybe stemming it before the tide became too big.
And since the president's tweet, I think more and more players have taken a position versus President Trump's tweet as they did compared to what their real purpose was going to be.
To me, like I said, the flag stands for something to me.
This is my personal opinion.
I think you stand for it.
I think you stand at attention for it when the national anthem is played because I think of the men and women that have sacrificed their lives.
Now, we've reached a point where there's a tremendous groundswell.
Where does it go from now?
I would like to see those players that are kneeling, those players that have chosen to take the stance that they have taken, go meet with the community individuals, go meet with the police commissioners, go meet with people in the community.
Take your cause out into the streets in a very, very civil way and say, let's sit down and let's try and figure out how we can help some of the inequities that exist, how we can deal with some of the situations that have come up and existed.
I think we could start in Chicago, right?
Probably a good place to start.
Well, any major city.
And see, the NFL owners are actually going to meet this week to discuss what they should do.
And, you know, at what point, you know, we've already seen the NFL start to suffer a bit.
DirecTV has made some overtures.
Budweiser has made some overtures to fans to get their input.
It is affecting the NFL, and it's a bottom-line business.
And when you start affecting and talking about sponsorships, you're affecting the bottom line of the game.
I just think, I think players have made their point.
I really do.
I think players have made their point.
But now, what's going to come of this?
Is it just going to go away?
The players knelt.
The players didn't stand for the national anthem.
They didn't honor the flag, like I say, my opinion.
But where do we go next?
That's that.
If it keeps happening, Joe, where do we go next?
If it keeps happening, you're going to lose your base.
And the base is, you know, people that honor and respect that flag.
And when you lose your base, I don't know if they're going to be so quick to come back.
And especially considering the expense that an average family pays, you know, to go to a game.
Average tickets, $100.
You know, you buy two jerseys for your kids, a couple of beers at $100 a beer, or seemingly, and you buy a couple of Cokes and a couple of hot dogs.
It's $800.
But where does it get to the next one?
We are at a point where we have to have a very serious conversation.
And it's really more than the NFL.
The NFL is, I mean, it's great that we have this as a place to point to, but here are the real deals.
There's 83% of black females across our country that's unemployed.
There's 7% of black men that forsake their marriage.
And we only have 3.8% of black people involved with the free enterprise system.
How about the 6% of black men, percentage-wise, but yet 40% of them are dealing with the violent crime?
That's what's going on within the community.
That's why these kids are so frustrated because they see that, they understand it, and there's no one addressing it.
What we have to do is understand the true racists in this country is to have those numbers put out.
And Sean, what you used to do with talking about all the murders going in Chicago, how many people think that's normal within the black community?
How many people think it's normal for black people to think in a certain way only because they're black?
That's true racism.
And that comes from the Democratic Party that has put this narrative out.
You know, I think I need to do it again and put those names on because there were 3,900 people killed during Obama's presidency in his adopted hometown of Chicago in shootings.
Then you had 18,000 shootings in the last six years of his presidency.
Now, I couldn't believe that the president would weigh in on high-profile cases like George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin, or Freddie Gray, Baltimore, or Michael Brown, and Ferguson and the Cambridge police.
But meanwhile, his own hometown, it was like 50 shootings a weekend and nobody uttered a phrase about it.
And I started scrolling the names of people, and I'm like, I bet you don't know any of these names.
And the reason is because we don't pay attention, and it's happening right in front of our face.
It's literally talent being blown away every weekend and wasted and destroyed.
It's sad.
Well, it is sad.
And really, Sean, I think that's the point I want to make: where do we go from here regarding the NFL?
The players have taken somewhat of a stance.
A lot of the players have taken a stance.
There's 1,350 guys roughly that dress every Sunday, Thursday, whatever, every week for a ball game.
The percentage is up to probably about four, three to four hundred of them that are kneeling now.
But what are we going to do?
You know, certainly the change that has to happen is not going to happen overnight.
But we have to start to see signs of something changing going forward.
There needs to, like I said, if these players are going to take this stand, then what they ought to do is get out into the community as well and be involved in being a part of the change.
You know, you've identified a problem, but are you going to be part of the solution?
Or are you just going to say this is the problem we have?
I think that's one of the things that players, and in society as well.
There's no question there are inequities.
There are no question there are problems.
But we need to see some positive signs from somewhere that say that the tide is changing.
The tide is turning.
All right, got to take a break.
We'll come back.
We'll have more with Burgess Owen and Joe Theisman.
We'll get to your calls next half hour, 800-941-SEAN.
All right, as we continue with Joe Theismann and Burgess Owens about the latest of Colin Kaepernick in the NFL, the owners would work with the players, but they've got to also understand that almost every person that goes to a game knows somebody either in their family or a close friend or relative that fought.
bled, and died in war for this country.
And they fought under that flag, and they're not taking this lightly.
No, they're not.
I mean, I don't know how many people realize how critical a period of time this is for the NFL.
This is truly a game-changing period for the NFL.
No, they've been very slow to act.
I'll tell you that, Joe.
They've been very slow to deal with it, and they seem afraid to deal with it.
Well, I think they don't have an answer.
And I think that is part of the problem is if you don't have somewhat of an answer for the solution or an answer to the problem, the solution is slow in coming.
And I think this meeting, this meeting is monumental in New York this week with the owners.
Can I add in one real quick thing?
Because we do have an answer.
And it's not going to come from the NFL.
It's not going to come from Congress.
I mean, the players have allowed us now to see there's a problem they have within the community that have been put upon them for the last decades.
It's going to be we the people.
We're going to now the Americans have woken up.
We now understand there's an issue there.
We're going to get in there and we're going to start to put our income and our time and world class needs to help those organizations that truly are helping our kids.
Not NAACP, which is nothing but a front for Marxist, but real programs that help our kids to be mentored, to believe again, to be educated, to feel like they can become part of the free enterprise system.
We the people, now that America is waking up, it's going to be a powerful, powerful influx of help.
And that is the worst thing for the left to see is for our kids to have hope again.
So I'm very encouraged by the fact that this line has been drawn by the president, that we're no longer going to put down our flag.
And now these kids, who have never had this conversation in the black community, we're now having a conversation as to why people don't agree with them.
And if they try to convince us, we now can share why it is that the left has left them down.
So I'm very excited about where we are now.
And I think it'll be a great off-season coming towards this coming year.
All right, guys.
Good to talk to you both, Burgess Owen and Joe Theisman.
This is an important discussion.
We'll continue.
And if Kaepernick keeps blaming the president and keeps lashing out and everybody keeps taking a knee, I think this season is going to go bust pretty quick.
I think people's patience now is at their end.
We'll see what comes of these meetings this week.
All right, 800-941-Sean, toll-free telephone number.
When we come back, your call's coming up straight ahead.
800-941-Sean, and we'll continue.
Hi, 25 till the top of the hour.
All right, let's go back.
If you have kids in the car, it's Guess What's In My Pants, a bit done by Jimmy Kimmel.
And he has women using both their hands, and he suggests even their mouth to determine what is in his pants.
Yeah, that area.
And I want to play that again.
This game show is called Guess What's In My Pants?
Now, I've stuffed something in my pants, and you're allowed to feel around on the outside of the pants.
You have 10 seconds to then guess what is in my pants.
You ready?
Go.
You should use two hands.
Two hands.
I thought it was like a red hole or something.
You think is that your final answer?
Wow.
You're going to make a fine wife.
All right.
Right there?
Yeah?
You think I wear the rubber underpants?
And your guess is?
Vibrator?
A vibrator?
No, it is actually a zucchini with a rubber band on it.
But you can use it as a vibrator if you want.
Look.
By the way, this kicks the crap out of the Ben Stein show.
And, Apple, you worked on a farm, haven't you?
How old are you?
18.
Okay, are you sure of that?
Because the Uncle Jimmy doesn't need to do time.
It's not going to bite you.
I think that you hold a pencil.
It's a very creative guess, but no, it is not.
It is actually a thing that goes in the sink.
You see, it's round.
It's hard.
Yeah.
Yes.
A little squishy on the thighs.
Yeah, sometimes.
It sits a little.
Well.
Yeah.
Maybe it would be easier if you put your mouth on it.
Mouth, press, whatever you like.
And guess what is in my pants?
I mean.
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
Yes.
Yes, I know.
I mean, eat mine.
I don't know if I can't think.
Feel harder, feel a little bit faster.
Squeeze.
Squeeze.
It feels like it.
It feels like what?
I have no care.
What is in my pants is half a jelly donut.
I ate the other half earlier.
This is a good game.
This is a good game.
It feels kind of like squid.
A chicken leg.
Tastes like martinis.
Oh, no, wait.
Martinis tastes like chicken.
Yeah, feel around.
And if you could feel around in a back and forth motion, gradually getting faster.
That's a dildo.
Let's see if she's right.
It is actually a king crab leg.
You've got a nice technique there.
You could get in the Olympics with this, let me tell you.
Something maybe rubbery and cookies?
Hold on, one second.
I need to talk to my penis right there.
I'm going to beat the life out of you when we get home.
Okay, go right back to it.
A wet paper towel.
A wet paper towel?
No, it's a handful of bologna.
It was the sandwich before you got to work on it, but that's nice.
You really.
Are you going to eat it, Barbina?
That's the real man, maybe.
It's like a thing of maybe like grack-a-balls or something.
And there you go, $500 just for guessing what was in my pants.
That's pretty impressive, I have to say.
Then this is Jimmy Kimmel, oh, whining.
Oh, people aren't watching.
And good riddance to the people who don't agree with me on health care and gun violence.
Great way to build an audience, by the way.
Alienate half the country.
I want everyone with a television to watch the show.
But if they're so turned off by my opinion on health care and gun violence, then I don't know.
I probably won't want to have a conversation with them anyway.
Good riddance?
Well, not good riddance, but riddance.
Then we've got more lying from the left with Hillary, and then our last cut will be Donald Trump responding.
You are a beacon of feminism.
You talk to women's rights.
You knew Harvey Weinstein well.
At what stage?
And you must have known the rumors about him.
Harvey will be Harvey.
No, I did not.
I did not know.
But everyone knew rumors about him.
Not specific cases, but everyone knew that Harvey Weinstein, apparently, in his circle, was a little bit, you know.
Well, all I can tell you is that I did not hear those things.
Look, we just elected a person who admitted sexual assault to the presidency.
So there's a lot of other issues that are swirling around these kinds of behaviors that need to be addressed.
And I think it's important that we stay focused and shine a bright spotlight and try to get people to understand how damaging this is.
And the women coming forward is the only way that that story will be told.
This kind of behavior cannot be tolerated anywhere, whether it's in entertainment, politics.
After all, we have someone admitting to being a sexual assaulter in the Oval Office.
There has to be a recognition that we must stand against this kind of action that is so sexist and misogynistic.
And this depends upon women coming forward, having the courage to come forward.
And yet in your book, the three women brought onto stage by Trump attacking your husband, and you kind of dismiss them.
Was that the right thing to do?
Are you sure about that?
Well, yes, because that had all been litigated.
I mean, that was the subject of a huge investigation, as you might recall, in the late 90s.
And there were conclusions drawn, and that was clearly in the past.
But it is something that has to be taken seriously.
As I say, for everyone, not just for those in entertainment right now.
When they take a knee, there's plenty of time to do knees, and there's plenty of time to do lots of other things.
But when you take a knee, well, that's why she lost the election.
I mean, honestly, it's that thinking, that is the reason she lost the election.
When you go down and take a knee or any other way, you're sitting, essentially, for our great national anthem.
You're disrespecting our flag, and you're disrespecting our country.
And the NFL should have suspended some of these players for one game, not fire them, suspended them for one game.
And then if they did it again, it could have been two games and three games and then for the season.
You wouldn't have people disrespecting our country right now.
And if Hillary Clinton actually made the statement that in a form sitting down during the playing of our great national anthem is not disrespectful, then I fully understand why she didn't win.
I know.
I mean, look, there are a lot of reasons she didn't win, including the fact that she was not good at what she did.
But I will tell you, that is something that I had just heard about.
And I think that her statement in itself is very disrespectful to our country.
When they take a knee, there's plenty of time to do knees and there's plenty of time to do lots of other things.
But when you take a knee, well, that's why she lost the election.
I mean, honestly, it's that thinking, that is the reason she lost the election.
When you go down and take a knee or any other way, you're sitting, essentially, for our great national anthem.
You're disrespecting our flag and you're disrespecting our country.
And the NFL should have suspended some of these players for one game, not fire them, suspended them for one game.
And then if they did it again, it could have been two games and three games and then for the season.
You wouldn't have people disrespecting our country right now.
And if Hillary Clinton actually made the statement that in a form sitting down during the playing of our great national anthem is not disrespectful, then I fully understand why she didn't win.
I know.
I mean, look, there are a lot of reasons she didn't win, including the fact that she was not good at what she did.
But I will tell you, that is something that I had just heard about.
And I think that her statement in itself is very disrespectful to our country.
All right, that was the president responding to Hillary Clinton.
And I mean, when you listen to her comment, we just elected to the presidency someone who admitted to sexual assault.
Hello, Bill Clinton, somebody.
What sexual assault did he admit to?
Do you know what she's talking about?
Because I don't know.
Is it the words?
It's been litigated, Sean, okay?
It's been litigated.
Okay, from 10 years ago.
Now, there's not an, you know what the fascinating thing?
Let me tell you what I believe happens.
You have big money people, the same people that fund efforts to get conservatives off the air.
These are the people that monitor every word conservatives utter on radio, television, anything they write, anything they say.
There are people on the left that literally have, let's just say, walking around money as it used to be referred to in years gone by to get people to vote.
And they have money and the means of getting cash to individuals who say certain things.
That's not the case of Harvey Weinstein.
Even he's admitting he's a pig.
So, I mean, even his own brother said he's a pig and abusive.
How much more evidence do you want?
And what they're trying to do here is they're trying to now flip this on Trump, and it's because they're so, you know, look at everything that Harvey Weinstein did.
Harvey Weinstein, literally Hillary Clinton, you know, is falling down the stairs, supposedly, and has to cancel interviews because she can't answer why she took Harvey Weinstein's money to bankroll her husband's defense in the Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones cases.
And Weinstein now has questions, have left Bill and Chelsea also on the run.
And the Clinton Foundation won't give back the money, just like they won't give back the money from these countries that abuse and practice Sharia law and abuse women.
And the DNC is keeping 90% of the money.
And, you know, at some point, you got to realize this is ridiculous, all the people out there.
And then Hillary Clinton, sexism and misogyny are endemic in our society.
Yeah, look at your own husband.
And she not only didn't speak out, she was part of an effort to smear and slander and besmirch, use character assassination techniques against all the women that accused her husband.
Slick Willie.
And there was Harvey Weinstein helping to pay for the bills.
Pretty amazing.
And there were a lot of bills at that time.
Let's get to our busy phones.
800-941-Sean.
All right, Chad is in Texas.
Chad, hi, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Sean, thank you very much for taking the call.
It's always a pleasure to speak with you.
Next to my nine-year-old son, you're the person who inspires me the most.
Oh, you're very kind.
Thank you.
I saw this morning where you're going to come to Dallas on the 22nd this month.
I'm not a member of First Baptist Dallas, but looking forward to you being there.
Yeah, I'm going to be in Pastor Robert Jeffers' church for two services, one at nine and I think one at 10.30.
And then on Sunday, and this is all in relation, it's two weeks from, what, Thursday, October 27th, the movie that I've been working on for two years.
It's called Let There Be Light.
It's a faith-based film.
I think it's one of the best things I've ever worked on, one of the hardest things I've ever worked on.
I know more at lettherebelightmovie.com.
Yeah, and we now are putting up where you can buy your tickets.
And, you know, we have like a three-week rollout.
It's not like a typical quintessential Hollywood, you know, 4,000 theater rollout.
It's going to be, we're doing a few hundred, then adding a few hundred more, then a few hundred more.
And, you know, hopefully people like the movie and they tell their friends.
But I'm very proud of how it came out.
And it's a movie with a message.
This is going to make you move your heart, I can promise you.
I can't wait to see it.
And I can't wait to see it in Dallas.
Well, first of all, Sean, what I wanted to ask you, and I have this talking point and a question asked you about college football, actually.
All this NFL, not all NFL players are protesting the flag and the anthem being conducted at the same time.
But I'm sure you noticed the football on Sundays that you do watch, there's a flag.
There's an American flag, a sticker on their helmet.
Did you notice that?
There's never any protest.
They just protest the flag and the anthem at the same time.
But that flag on their helmet, that doesn't seem to bother them.
I'm surprised they didn't peel it off.
Have you recognized that in a question about who's your college football team?
And you've got to get Rick Perry to take you to a Texas A ⁇ M home football game.
It'll be the best thing you've ever experienced, Sean.
Well, I'm biased towards my son's school, and I don't want to talk about it because, you know, there are crazy people in this world, but I do have a bias now towards that team.
I could say my wife graduated from Alabama.
You know, Nick Sabin by far is the best coach in college football today.
I was a fan growing up of Notre Dame, and I'll be honest, I just like watching all these student athletes play, and the talent level is just off the charts amazing.
And, you know, you can see little differences.
They don't have maybe quite the level of some of the NFL players, and some do.
And the amazing thing is so few of them will actually even get drafted into an NFL team.
I mean, it's such an honor to get that, and you get a big salary to continue playing the sport you love.
But anyway, I really am not interested.
I'm not going to lie, I did watch some of the Jets and Patriots yesterday.
That ending was ridiculous.
The Jets got robbed.
Didn't you think 100% they got robbed?
That was the worst call I've ever seen.
I felt bad for them.
And who was it?
And I was so upset, man, when that happened.
I was like, what happened?
The ball went the wrong way.
The ball went the wrong way.
Is that what happened?
Tell me what happened in the Jets.
And then the other guy threw it to that guy who didn't get it, and I was like, it's over.
It's over.
Have you ever watched a football game in your life?
Not once.
Did you get a new mattress this weekend and get any furniture?
I couldn't.
I was watching the game for the first time.
So the answer is you didn't go and get, you're still living on an air mattress.
All right, that's going to wrap things up.
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