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And uh, I don't know when I first predicted.
Didn't I say Lauren?
I know Linda's on vacation this week that my greatest fear, worry, the type of thing that would keep me up at night, that it might actually end up the what defines the Fox News channel.
Um I'm sorry, not the Fox News channel, I'm reading something.
What defines in every way the threat to freedom, humanity, and everything else, and what will define the Trump presidency is in fact North Korea.
I mean how I've said it a whole bunch of times.
And I'm I wish I wish it was one of those days I'm wrong.
I wish I so wish I was wrong today.
Because what we have now developing is not a good situation.
Now we did have last week, I thought it was really, really good news.
If you get news from the Russia gate media, you you probably don't even know the Trump administration.
They'll never tell you the destroy Trump media won a big victory diplomatically over the weekend, and it offered frankly the last best hope to stop North Korea without going to war.
And I've been telling you there's no good answer as it relates to North Korea.
And I'm not kidding when I say war.
You've had the last three administrations, especially the Clinton administration, the Obama administration, you know, literally kicking down the can for a total of 24 years, what was an emerging obvious danger.
And now we're on the verge of a major conflagration with with the North Koreans and the Democratic press and the destroy Trump press, all they want to talk about is Russia Gate.
Russia gate doesn't matter today.
And if what I think can happen ultimately happens, it's even worse than you think.
Now, investors business daily on Saturday, the UN Security Council voted new sanctions on the emerging nuclear threat of North Korea.
Great.
You even had China and Russia going along with it.
It was a unanimous 15 to zero vote, imposing sanctions against North Korea for their recent intercontinental ballistic missile tests, including one just last week, followed by a a week of pressure by Trump on both North Korea and its main allies, China and Russia.
Last weekend, Trump signed the bill that imposes penalties on North Korea's shipping industry, along with new sanctions on Russia and intelligence agencies for their meddling in the election last year, which they've done in previous elections, which we're told they'll do in future elections.
And Trump also recently got the EU to go along with other sanctions, you know, against Russia for their interference in the eastern Ukraine.
So he's taken a tough position against a country that's supposed to have so much on him.
Meanwhile, Trump also ratcheted up his war words against China, which is the right thing to do.
It's it's in their geopolitical area.
It's their bigger problem, not our bigger problem.
And he tweeted out a little over a week ago, I'm very disappointed.
China in China are foolish past leaders have allowed them to make hundreds of billions of dollars a year in trade, and yet they do nothing for us with North Korea.
Just talk.
Well, we'll no longer follow, allow this to continue.
He goes, China could easily solve the problem.
Well, they could in the sense that they have the ability to put all of this economic pressure on North Korea.
Now, if it was treated as just more than, you know, crude bombast, um, in some senses it really worked when the president tweeted that out.
Because on Friday, the U.S. delivered the proposal to the U.N. Security Council.
On Saturday, Trump got the 15 to zero victory, including Russia and including China, and it's no secret how Trump did it.
Now to show our potential foes that he means business, well, he threatened or actually imposed sanctions on a number of countries, which I which I thought was, you know, very smart.
Anyway, 800 941 Shauna's our number.
I want to play Bill Clinton.
From back in what year was this, Lauren?
I forget the what's that, 2004?
I was gonna say what?
1994.
Okay.
By the way, when you talk, you gotta talk on the air like Linda does, or else I don't know if it's in my ear or it's on the air because it sounds the same in my ear.
Yes, boss.
Yes, boss.
Be nice!
All right, stop.
Stopping him.
All right, so here is Bill Clinton.
It's a good it's a good deal for America, good deal for America.
Before I take your questions, I'd like to say just a word about the framework with North Korea that Ambassador Galushi signed this morning.
This is a good deal for the United States.
North Korea will freeze and then dismantle its nuclear program.
South Korea and our other allies will be better protected.
The entire world will be safer as we slow the spread of nuclear weapons.
South Korea, with support from Japan and other nations, will bear most of the cost of providing North Korea with fuel to make up for the nuclear energy it is losing.
And they will pay for an alternative power system for North Korea that will allow them to produce electricity while making it much harder for them to produce nuclear weapons.
The United States and international inspectors will carefully monitor North Korea to make sure it keeps its commitments.
Only as it does so will North Korea fully join the community of nations.
Only then, and it's gonna prevent them from getting nuclear weapons, and we paid a fortune, a total and complete fortune to get that deal.
By the way, does it all sound familiar?
Because it should, because that's exactly what Obama did with billions of dollars, plain loads of cash and other currency that were handed over to the mullahs in Iran as part of the please, please, pretty please, let's have peace in our time.
Please, please don't build nuclear weapons.
And that that's gonna work out about as well as what happened with Neville Chamberlain and Bill Clinton, in the sense that you cannot appease evil radicals, dictators, and despots that don't care about truth and shaking hands, signing agreements and literally stealing money and making false promises is just par for the course.
Remember, in the lead up to World War II, there were people like Winston Churchill warning about the insanity, the evil that lurked in Adolf Hitler.
And then there was the great meeting with Neville Chamberlain.
Well, we have peace in our time.
Yeah, that lasted long.
Well, the same thing Bill Clinton believed the North Koreans.
He thought he made a deal.
He thought they'd never develop nuclear weapons.
It cost taxpayers billions and billions.
And it didn't work out.
It's the same thinking that went into the Iranian deal with the mullahs in Iran that have promised to destroy America and have promised to destroy Israel and burning American flags, burning Israeli flags, 25 days' notice before inspections, they're not even American inspectors, and we don't even know if we have all the sights down.
You know, at times we can be really dumb and naive and really stupid.
And now we find ourselves, this is now the consequences of stupidity here.
Because if you watch the Washington Post, for example, North Korea is now making missile-ready nuclear weapons, according to U.S. analysts.
And the Washington Post reporting that North Korea can now mount a nuclear warhead on an ICBM.
And remember the news that we've had in just the last week, that they're also building the capability that they can fire these nuclear weapons out of a submarine.
Okay, we better take really close track of the submarines.
And then on top of that, we know that they can also fire nuclear weapons that can meet that can literally reach the continental United States.
We better help our THAD anti-ballistic missile technologies working.
All the tests have so far been really good.
But I shudder to think that that's what we're counting on.
I've always predicted that Ronald Reagan's quote Star Wars that he was mocked for, or strategic defense, is going to end up being as great as legacy.
But now we know that according to the Washington Post, North Korea has now crossed that final technological threshold.
And that is they're now able to hit the United States.
And a report last week that they can hit New York City.
That's right, with an intercontinental ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead, and that they can hit Boston Mass with a nuclear warhead.
Now, if that's all true, you now are beholden to a madman named Kim Jong-un, like his father, Kim Jong-il, would now have the ability, if we don't stop it, to incinerate New York City with the push of a button.
This is not a game here.
And there's no good options here.
What are the options?
Unless there's somebody that is deep inside North Korea, which is very difficult to penetrate, that could take this guy out, there's no option there, nor do you know who's going to take his place if you did take him out.
Okay, option number two.
Let's say even the world aligns, China, Russia, the United States, Israel, our Western European allies, Great Britain, and others.
And we all align and we all take out the nuclear sites.
Okay, that doesn't mean he couldn't put one of these nuclear weapons on a scud missile and fire it into South Korea and Seoul and God knows how many thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people will be dead.
And on top of that, when you if you have to take out their nuclear sites, you're going to incinerate it'll it'll be gone.
It'll be obliterated, North Korea.
And then on top of that, does he fire, does this madman fire at Japan?
Is he stupid enough to fire at China?
Who knows what this guy's capable of?
He doesn't seem to be governed by the rules of mutually assured destruction.
For as evil as the former Soviet Union was, they understood they were gonna die.
And that prevented.
You know, and can Donald Trump even make phone calls now with all the deep state leaks, leaking conversations with presidents and prime ministers.
How does he have a private conversation when the deep state is now monitoring and leaking the conversations?
How does he have a real discussion with a world leader over this?
But this new analysis completed last month by the Defense Intelligence Agency comes on the heels of another intelligence assessment that really raises the official estimate for the total number of bombs in North Korea and their atomic arsenal, and they calculated last month that up to 60 nuclear weapons are now controlled by Kim Jong-un.
And some independent experts believe the number of bombs is smaller.
Okay, he only has 30.
Say cut it in half.
But it's got to deepen the world's concern about an evolving North Korean military threat that appears to be advancing far more rapidly in spite of all the bribes and assurances they'd never get nuclear weapons.
Now maybe it's years before the country's weapons scientists designed the compact warhead, but it's coming.
If it's not here, if the Washington Post is not exactly right, if our intelligence is not exactly right, the problem with the intelligence community is very hard to grab intelligence out of North Korea.
That they produce nuclear weapons for ballistic missile delivery to include ICBM class missiles.
Well, that hits New York City and the continental United States.
And this guy has now become increasingly confident in the reliability of not only the nuclear arsenal, but of the ability to deliver that arsenal, and that's why we saw what happened on Saturday.
President has promised and vowed that North Korea will never be allowed to threaten the United States with nuclear weapons.
H.R. McMaster actually said the prospect of a nuclear armed North Korea with nuclear-tipped ICBMs would be intolerable from the president's perspective.
We have all, you know, we have to provide all options, and that includes the military option.
But I'm I'm just warning you, that military option, there's no good option.
And we have the best military on the face of the earth.
All right, we'll continue.
It's just everything else now goes into perspective as far as I'm concerned.
The world better be on alert.
And if you don't think evil exists, look at the last hundred years of human history and a hundred million, a hundred million human souls destroyed by human evil and governments and wars.
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Donald Trump of North Korea makes more threats.
They will be met with fire, fury, and power.
But now imagine if you're South Korea.
Imagine if you're Japan.
You know, now, you know, China better be paying very close attention.
And they've they've allowed this problem to grow out of control by not confronting Kim Jong-un up to this point.
And now they're very close in terms of proximity.
What if this guy is like a suicide bomber in this sense?
What if he's a leader that doesn't care about mutually assured destruction?
What if he just wants to go down with the ship?
There are people that have that mindset.
Not saying he does, but what if he does?
You have to assume the worst.
If you don't and and so if you can't take him out internally, because nobody can get in there internally.
What are your options here?
Okay, analyze this.
So let's say we can build a world coalition.
Let's say the 15-0 vote is an indication of a world coalition of some of the biggest best armies in the world, coupling with the lone superpower of the United States.
Then we could bring Israel in.
Then we can bring in let's say the communist Chinese want to come in.
Let's say even Russia wants to come in.
Let's say Great Britain comes in and all of our Western European allies, and let's say we come up with the biggest, best, hardest-hitting campaign to take out every single nuclear site of North Korea.
Okay, what all right?
Let's assume we do that.
Now, for a second, let's assume we're successful.
We take out all of those nuclear sites, the biggest military operation in the history of the world.
Okay.
What if those bombs burst?
Now you've got you will have in your lifetime the obliteration.
I mean obliterating an entire country.
And I don't check uh Lauren what the what the population of North Korea-Sout Korea is.
Then you have nuclear fallout issues from that.
And let's say that he's able to launch in the interim as the attack is coming in.
He's prepared to launch on South Korea, Japan in the interim, and we can't stop it.
Even with our THAD anti-ballistic missile system.
Well, then how many tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands can die there?
And the nuclear fallout from that.
And then you can't not factor in that, well, can he can hit China a lot more easily than the continental United States?
No good option here.
That's what happens.
You appease dictators.
Before I take your questions, I'd like to say just a word about the framework with North Korea that Ambassador Galushi signed this morning.
This is a good deal for the United States.
North Korea will freeze and then dismantle its nuclear program.
South Korea and our other allies will be better protected.
The entire world will be safer as we slow the spread of nuclear weapons.
South Korea, with support from Japan and other nations, will bear most of the cost of providing North Korea with fuel to make up for the nuclear energy it is losing.
And they will pay for an alternative power system for North Korea that will allow them to produce electricity while making it much harder for them to produce nuclear weapons.
The United States and international inspectors will carefully monitor North Korea to make sure it keeps its commitments.
Only as it does so will North Korea fully join the community of nations.
Over a year ago, we took the first step towards today's framework with a deal to stop the progress of nuke uh Iran's nuclear program and roll it back in key areas.
And recall that at the time, skeptics argued that Iran would cheat and that we could not verify their compliance, and the interim agreement would fail.
Instead, it has succeeded exactly as intended.
Iran has met all of its obligations.
It eliminated its stockpile of dangerous nuclear material.
Inspections of Iran's program increased.
And we continued negotiations to see if we could achieve a more comprehensive deal.
Today, after many months of tough principled diplomacy, we have achieved the framework for that deal.
And it is a good deal.
A deal that meets our core objectives.
This framework would cut off every pathway that Iran could take to develop a nuclear weapon.
Iran will face strict limitations on its program.
And Iran has also agreed to the most robust and intrusive inspections and transparency regime ever negotiated for any nuclear program in history.
So this deal is not based on trust.
It's based on unprecedented verification.
Not really, because you got 25 days' notice of inspections.
Enough time to probably clean up the mess.
Well, the radioactive material will linger around so we can pick it up.
They'll purposely put in there something that will give some fake phony rationale for the radioactive activity picked up.
You know, I don't think most people really understand the threat of all of this and the proliferation of nuclear weapons, but you know, North Korea is now on the path to becoming a full-fledged nuclear power, and as I keep saying, there's no good option.
Do you know in big cities all across the world that I'm I'm assuming that a lot of you don't know that, but my years around law enforcement, intelligence people, uh FBI friends of mine, and and just all these people they've shared, especially in the last number of years about leaking and intel and unmasking and surveillance,
and I've learned so much, and I just want to share it all with you, which is why we keep putting all these experts on, because it's number one, I'm fascinated by it all, and it is very little in life that keeps me up at night.
I'm not a person that is ever consumed with fear.
I'm not a warrior, I don't sit on my hands, and I have enough faith that okay, what's meant to be is meant to be, and and I'm willing to go down with the ship for the things that I deeply believe in, and that's it.
It really is that simple.
And I'm a fighter and I fight back, and if I win, I win.
If I lose, then I'll shake hands and say goodbye.
That's how I live my life.
I I have very deeply held core beliefs that guide me.
So, but it's one of the things that keeps me up at night.
And big cities all across the world, you probably don't know, are monitoring every square inch to see if they pick up any radioactive activity.
There are people that I know in New York City where the monitors they just get out of some type of procedure.
Maybe they were getting radiation to deal with their cancer treatment, maybe a thallium stress test.
I know somebody that's had a thallium stress test where they kind of shoot thallium.
I've had these tests a number of times to make sure I don't have a heart attack.
And uh people warn me all Hannity, you keep getting getting worked up, you're gonna have a heart attack.
Well, according to my doctor, I'm not.
And it's a it's a great test.
But you have these tests, and then you walk around, you're radioactive.
And then the detectors pick up on it.
Peep peep beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
And all of a sudden, a couple of cops come up, and you know, if they see it's an older gentleman or woman, they're probably not going to confront them, but if you're a younger person and you have a backpack, they might thinking you have a dirty bomb because of the amount of damage that can be done.
I mean, human beings, uh, and this gets to my whole focus of deliver us from evil.
What we're now facing with North Korea, and if we're not smart, what we'll face down the road with Iran is when it's A squared, B squared, C squared.
If you take radicalism, take the mullahs in Iran for a second, that want to annihilate and have repeatedly threatened to wipe Israel off the map, repeatedly threatened the United States of America, and burning our flags, death to America, the great Satan, the little Satan, on and on and on.
And you couple it with a belief system, as they have that this is the will of their God to destroy innocent men, women, and children, and it's taken to such an extreme point that some of these people will actually strap bombs on their own kids and send them off into public places for maximum amount of damage and let them kill innocent men, women, and children.
Okay, telling them that their God, Allah, awaits them in heaven, and that they're going to be rewarded with 72 virgins.
For the average person, you just can't comprehend that evil.
You know, it's let me see if I can explain it better.
If I don't know why, I guess because I'm a loser.
I mean, there's the answer.
That's going to be the headline somewhere, someplace that Hannity admits it, finally.
It'll be on Mediate.
Hannity admits he really is a loser.
Breaking news.
You guys, you in the middle of a serious discussion, you guys have to distract me.
But what I mean by that is I spent a lot of time watch the History Channel.
I watched the American Heroes Channel.
You know, there's the old saying that if you don't learn from history, you're doomed to repeat it.
And if you just watch, just observe, you know, they got all these series, because they there is a lot of footage that over the years has come off Hitler in his final days, Hitler's rise, Hitler's fall, Hitler's this, Allied forces this, and you just learn so much that there was every indication that this was the rise of evil in Germany at the time, and then you could see this.
It's very interesting to watch mass hypnosis.
And like, how is it that good people, otherwise good people, can be so indoctrinated, they can so compartmentalize any form of goodness and conscience and right and wrong within them that their job,
and I described this scene in my book where it was the job of these murdering Nazis, you know, all these people would be put on trains, they'd be brought to the concentration camps, and the first thing that the those that were doing the deeds of Hitler would do, okay.
Now, is there anybody here that's a carpenter?
Oh, would you mind oh, good, we need carpenters.
Anyone here that's a nurse, oh great.
Would you please step forward?
Anyone here that is uh involved in I don't know, steel work or whatever.
Anyone here that can do plumbing, any whatever it was, and these people, what they were doing is they were trying to prevent fear, panic, and chaos.
And those people would step forward.
And those people were given hope, false hope.
And then their clothes were taken off, they're told to go in into a shower, and they were all slaughtered.
How does one human being do that to another human being?
How do you do that?
What do you go home and eat dinner with your own kids?
How do you do that?
That's evil.
Mass hypnosis, indoctrination.
How do you explain the killing fields in Cambodia?
How do you explain Boko Haram?
How do you explain Stalin's Russia?
How do you explain man's inhumanity to man on a micro level?
Rape, incest, hurting children.
How do you explain murder, rage, whatever?
Hurting old people.
There's a lot of evil.
I tried to explain that.
I think for most good people, they have a hard time comprehending, wrapping their minds, their good minds around the fact that evil exists.
And I think world leaders also similarly put their heads in the sand.
A classic example is Churchill and Chamberlain.
Another example, I think Bill Clinton really believed he made a good deal with North Korea.
I don't think it was nefarious.
I don't think he thought this day would come.
I believe he wanted to believe they could be good.
And good people have same with Obama and Iran.
And I'm telling you that there's not good, all good in this world.
Yet there is evil.
And evil needs to be defeated.
And if your mindset, your rationale, your thought process drives you to strap bombs on your own kids and tell them you're going to have it.
That's evil in our time.
So the challenges here are unbelievable.
Here's another, just to add to our collective paranoia today and genuine concern.
I don't worry.
You get concerned.
But just last month, North Korea was caught surveilling one of our ground-based missile defense sites.
Reuters, a suspected North Korean drone had taken photographs of an advanced U.S. anti-missile battery in South Korea before it crashed while apparently on its way back home.
That was reported by the South Korean military.
A drone mounted with a camera was found last week in a forest near the border with North Korea, similar in size shape to a North Korean drone that was found back in 2014 on an island near the border.
We confirmed that it took about 10 photos of the anti-missile system known as the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense.
That's a THAD missile system that we we've been successfully now testing, according to South Korean defense ministry.
The drone was suspected of obviously being from North Korea.
South Korea is deploying the U.S. anti-missile defense system.
You know, literally from about 155 miles from the border with North Korea to counter this growing missile threat from North Korea.
Let me get to some other news here, and then we'll check in in the next hour.
Jay Secular will weigh in on that on the varying scandals and what do you do about Rosenstein and everything else?
But you know, it's um, and by the way, during the Obama years, it's been 34 years since President Reagan unveiled strategic defense, and he was mocked and he was ridiculed.
Star Wars.
We may end up saving hundreds of thousands of millions of lives at some point about Star Wars.
I've said it since that time that it may be his greatest achievement through the prism of history.
The Obama administration, by the way, canceled some of their most important missile defense programs, started withdrawing the U.S. and their anti-ballistic missile treaty in 2002.
When Obama's missile defense policy shift cost the nation precious time and capabilities at a time where you can see the emergence of more and more new enemies.
This is not going to make the anti-Trump media happy, but anyway, Donald Trump's approval rating, according to Zogby, is now at 45%.
It's interesting.
Maybe he's the new comeback kid, driven by gains among Hispanics, union households, and boaters in the West.
Zogby also said more men approve of Trump than don't.
And the president's approval rating is rebounded from their July poll.
It's up pretty significantly.
That won't be reported on fake news, I promise you.
It'll be avoided at all costs on fake news.
Well, what about the coup?
What do you do after that?
Because they are trying to take the president out.
The New York Post has a piece today.
Intelligence community insiders claim that the NSA has Hillary's deleted emails.
Well, if that's true, are we ever going to get to see them?
Considering they were under subpoena.
You know, That would be that would be an important development.
We also have the New York Times blaming the plunging summer temperatures and global warming.
Turns out that it's a long time old in terms of the reports they're putting out.
So we got more fake news out there every single day.
You know, talk about bad timing.
The New York Times reporting that America is already suffering from out of control global warming.
Meanwhile, the temperature in New York City has been struggling to get out of the sixties for the last week.
It's been the coolest you know days of summer we've had this year.
How is it?
You know, if it rains, global warming.
Snows, global warming.
If it's storms, global warming.
If it's cold, global warming.
Everything's global warming.
No, actually, it started out as the coming ice age, then global warming, and now it's just climate change to anything happens, you just blame it on man-made disasters.
What are we going to ride bicycles and live in tents?
I don't think so.
Human beings advance, and these are renewable natural resources.
All right, we've got uh a lot coming up with the course of the program.
Pat Buchanan, Jay Seculo at the top of the next hour.
One more breaking news on this North Korea situation.
Uh the UK Express is now reporting.
Uh I didn't see it, but apparently this broke uh before the Washington Post bombshell about North Korea being able to make their ICBM's war ready, their warhead ready, more particularly.
But anyway, there's a big headline as that North Korea has deployed two anti-ship cruise missiles onto a patrol boat as tensions now in the Korean peninsula now reach a breaking point.
President has now spoken out, and the president is being very strong in in his comments, and he's now out there saying, Okay, I'm ready.
Let's go, game on.
And he said that if they uh will be met with fire and fury if they make more threats against the U.S. Well, I did see the president uh at the Phoenix Airport the other night as I was landing, he was headed out.
Uh he did come over and say hello and speak to my husband and myself and um talk about his grandchildren and his travels and and things like that.
So that was the extent of that.
And no discussions were held in any cases or anything of that.
And he didn't raise anything uh about that either.
Let me go back if I can very briefly to the decision to publicly go out with your results on the email.
Was your decision influenced by the attorney general's tarmac meeting with the former President Bill Clinton?
Yes, in in a ultimately uh conclusive way.
That was the thing that capped it for me that I had to do something separately to protect the credibility of the investigation, which meant both the FBI and the Justice Department.
Were there other things that contributed to that that you can describe in an open session?
There were other things that contributed to that.
Uh one significant item I can't.
I know the committee's been briefed on.
There's been some public accounts of it, which are nonsense, but I understand the committee's been briefed on the classified facts.
Probably the only other consideration that I guess I can talk about an open setting is it at one point the Attorney General had directed me not to call it an investigation, but instead to call it a matter, which confused me and concerned me.
But that was one of the bricks in the load that led me to conclude I have to step away from the department if we're to close this case credibly.
The attorney general, previous attorney general, asking you about the investigation on the Clinton emails, saying that you've been asked not to call it an investigation anymore, but to call it a matter.
And you had said that confused you.
Can you give us additional details on that?
Well, it concerned me, and I wanted to know was she going to authorize us to confirm we had an investigation?
And she said, yes, but don't call it that, call it a matter.
And I said, Why would I do that?
And she said, just call it a matter.
And again, you look back in hindsight, you think should I have resisted harder?
I just said, All right, isn't worth this isn't a hill worth dying on.
And so I just said, okay.
The press is gonna completely ignore it.
And that's what happened when I said we have opened a matter.
They all reported the FBI has an investigation open.
Uh and so that concerned me because that language tracked the way the campaign was talking about the FBI's work, and that that's concerning.
It gave the impression that the campaign was somehow using the same language of the FBI because you were handed the campaign language and told me to be able to use the campaign.
Whether and again, I don't know whether it was intentional or not, but it gave the impression that the Attorney General was looking to align the way we talked about our work with the way political campaign was describing the same activity, which was inaccurate.
We had a criminal investigation open with as I said before the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
We had an investigation open at the time, and so that gave me a queasy feeling.
All right, hour two, Sean Hannity show, toll-free telephone number eight hundred nine four one Sean.
We'll watch him very closely.
The dangerous evolving North Korea situation, as I've been saying, I do not think there is any good answer here.
And in spite of the huge victory by the President, the 15 to zero vote, including China and even Russia on sanctions for North Korea.
Well, the fact that North Korea now has many nukes and making missile-ready nuclear weapons, according to analysts, and they can mount a nuclear weapon on a ICBM.
This is beyond a clear and present danger to this country, including their capacity to reach the continental United States and New York City and Boston, Massachusetts.
And I don't see a whole lot of good options.
It's got to really scare anyone that that loves human life that the potential catastrophe that this madman can cause.
It is beyond frightening.
Jay Sekulow is with us.
He is the chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.
He's also a counselor to the president.
And before I get to the issues involving the sound we just played from Loretta Lynch and James Comey in the tarmac meeting, I don't see a whole lot of good options here, Jay.
I really don't.
Look, this is uh we had some of our lawyers and legal team that deal with military affairs, both of them which are uh former uh colonels in the United States Army, both were sa uh stationed actually uh in Korea multiple times, and the options are not pleasant because the reality is that a military option which may be necessary here will probably result in significant civilian casualties in South Korea because the DMZ is such a small area,
it's easy to lob right into the major capitals of of uh South Korea, major popularization centers.
And then you have the difficulty of uh a regime that's so unstable you don't know what they're gonna do, and you can't allow that kind type of uh capability, nuclear capability to reach the region, but also the United States.
So I mean I think the world has changed drastically in the last two hours with this information coming forward, and I I think that uh the president, I'm sure, in conjunction with his national security team and uh Secretary Mattis are I'm sure engaged in discussions.
I I can't imagine they're not engaged in discussions on this is a this is a serious threat to the United States and a a serious threat to world stability.
You know, it's so scary.
I mean, this is the great danger, and I guess there's no point uh unless we learn from the mistakes of the past.
I mean, North Korea would constantly play the United States, and I know Bill Clinton said, Oh, we got a deal, this is good for America, good for the world, and and you can't buy peace from a radical dictatorship.
Well, a dictatorship that thinks remember the the the people unfortunately in North Korea have been led to believe for literally decades and decades that their leaders are actually deity.
So, you know, you we're we're dealing with a step beyond even the Ayatollahs in Iran.
The the the populace there and and the way it's projected is that the that Kim Jong-un is a form of deity, so they're gonna follow the deity.
And while the regime is repressive to the people, the maps of electricity show that the reality is a nuclear warhead on a missile from North Korea will de sh uh not only could w wreck will wreck havoc uh around the globe, but it also would be both an an international threat to us and a course a regional threat.
But then you gotta ask the Chinese and the Russians.
I mean, and they voted for that sanction, but they they got the capability of there is some leverage there, Sean, and I think that's the they have not come to the table, so to speak, on that other than voting for the sanctions.
But they they they could be brought to their knees economically, but it's gonna take the Russians and the Chinese to do that.
Well, I agree, and China uh, you know, the one good thing about the president meeting with the Chinese uh premier and president, I mean, it was apparently they really hit it off.
And you remember when they they stopped the the shipment, if you recall, I believe, of of coal, and which I thought was a very big step, and then the Chinese imported American coal instead, and apparently there's been subsequent conversations, which is on a side note, another reason you can't be leaking private conversations from the deep state when an American president talks to presidents or prime ministers, and so I think there's certainly a relationship and certainly some progress there.
Um but at the end of the day, Jay, I mean, if you try and take out the the best option to me would be If you have somebody with inside that could take them out, then you don't know who's gonna what the next person's gonna do, and that next person now has access to nuclear weapons with ICBM capability.
Then if you try to take them out militarily, you don't get all the sites at once, and it would need to be a worldwide effort.
It would need to be coordination with China, Russia, and and Israel and Great Britain.
And then if you try to take out the sites, what if the guy puts it on a scud missile a nuclear weapon and hits it right into Seoul or Japan?
Well, that's the great you know, the great military risk here is uh the regional risk is Seoul is an easy distance, as is Japan.
So the when you're dealing with a situation like this, as I've talked to our military uh offici uh uh analysts, uh lawyers with the ACLJ, that that's where the options here are rather limited, but you cannot allow Kim Jong un to take this kind of action or threaten this kind of action.
Uh so again, as you just said, it's gonna take a partnership of willing countries to engage and to engage the North Koreans directly with the threat of force if necessary, and it is necessary, uh and would be necessary if this kind of provocation takes place.
But there's a lot on uh obviously a lot on our defense officials, a lot on the president right now.
All right.
Let me let me ask you this question.
So we have all of these varying scandals that exist out there, including the issue that the ACLJ was was able to get through a freedom of information act request.
You were first told by then FBI director, James Comey that there was no interactions when in fact there were furious interactions, some what, four hundred and fifty some odd pages of interactions, including a desire and talking points that were built, although they never sent them to you.
Right.
So the the FBI came back and when we put the initial request in, you do it in a letter first, and they said there were no documents responsive to your uh request.
And then we did the same request over to the Department of Justice.
They didn't even respond.
This was under the Obama administration.
We then filed suit in October and got a got a document demand on the court issued an order requiring a document demand which showed not only emails between the FBI and the Department of Justice, which was contrary to what the FBI had said, but also and the alias involving the uh attorney general using the alias and the media uh cooperation in all of this, trying to kind of craft the story.
But today, as we are continuing to go through these documents, Sean and trying to trace who's who, we found two interesting, very significant developments.
One is there's an email actually from the Office of Public Affairs to the White House, assistant White House press secretary uh at the time was Brandy Hoffine, uh regarding the statement that's going to be made.
And this is despite the fact that uh the then uh White House press spokesperson said we're letting the Department of Justice respond to this, we're not involved in this at all.
Well, that that ended up not being correct.
And then interestingly, the senior counsel to the and this is we just got this today as we're checking each individual up, the senior counsel to the attorney general, Paige Herwig, she was a counselor to the attorney general, she's on the original email chain about this whole situation involving President Clinton and Loretta Lynch,
is now the Jeputy General Counsel to Senator Diane Feinstein, who is the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and remember the Senate Judiciary Committee sent out the little letter saying that they are investigating this whole Loretta Lynch, Bill Clinton, and the entire way the Clinton uh emailed candle was handled in the first place.
So that's her commit she's the ranking minority member of the committee, and her lawyer was the depu was the counsel to the attorney general when all this was going on.
You talking about conflicts of interest.
I mean, and and there are multitude.
And then we have a situation also as we're checking who the people are.
There was an email to a Matthew Axelrod, a principal associate deputy attorney general, was basically an assistant to Sally Yates.
We checked on on uh Max uh Matthew Axelrod's background on what he's known for, and in his law firm that he's with now bio, they note that he was a senior official overseeing all department operations.
That also took the lead in advising on crisis management within the DOJ, which clearly this became crisis management within the DOJ.
But then is was also Sean went to the FBI chief of staff and and senior counsel to James Comey.
Yet James Comey says, well, the reason I'm gonna had to go public on this was because Lor Loretta Lynch had done and he was worried about the integrity of the FBI.
But that was never true anyway, because there is a process in place that does not include the FBI director, if in fact an attorney general needs to be recused, like in the case of Loretta Lynch.
Correct.
And of course she never accused herself, despite all of this, she never recused her dogs.
Stay right there.
We are waiting and watching.
Uh the world is on edge today.
This North Korea threat is real.
It is a clear and present danger.
There are not a lot of good options.
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And as we continue, he is the Chief Counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.
Uh, and that's Jay Sekulo is with us.
We're following a lot of stories.
Where does the Attorney General now he announced that he's really digging down deep into the deep state leaks, which are about one a day, all of them probably illegal, but there seems to be a need for a lot of other special counsels, and and that would deal with the emails that would deal with uranium one?
That would deal with the Ukrainian Russian interference.
That would deal perhaps even with Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
That would deal with, you know, the the leaking itself having a special counsel.
Um does he have that authority and and why is it that Rosenstein only called this special counsel when there's a lot more evidence on these other scandals?
Well, you may not need a sp special counsel for these others because the Department of Justice within its own agencies can investigate this.
Uh the FBI and the Department of Justice could investigate, open up and reopen these investigations based on uh newly discovered evidence or an incomplete investigation.
I uh uh I have no basis to know whether they've been were closed with prejudice.
And those investigations could be going on right now as we speak, and we wouldn't usually know about that.
So you we know that, for instance, that the Senate Judiciary Committee is looking at a lot of these.
We know that uh the Senate Intel Committee wants to look at these, but the the question of the Department of Justice, they don't need a special counsel in order to do an investigation of these matters and to come up with a conclusion, whether it's the foundation, whether it's uranium one, uh back on the email scandal, whatever it might be, that is something that could be handled within the framework of the Department of Justice as it is.
There's not a need for special counsel.
No one would be recused from handling those matters.
Okay, so do you think that there's no way we'll ever know if these investigations are going on?
There's no way we'll ever know if grand juries are impaneled.
You know, one of my showing, we don't like leaks, so I mean, in the in the permanent.
No, I agree.
Yeah, we don't want leaks.
Look, I mean, here there's a unit we now know, according to the uh uh uh Rod Rosenstein, and also according to Attorney General Sessions, that they've got a unit in which is what we were calling for, a unit inside uh DOJ.
That is, and I guess FBI as well as part of that task force is to to stop these leaks and to handle these leaks uh aggressively and assertively.
So that's existing, and again, I I don't like leaks, so I don't want to hear about it going on.
Uh when they have something to announce regarding a leak, for instance a indictment on a person that was has been accused of leaking or an arrest or whatever it might be, that's appropriate.
But the investigation itself should be going under uh quietly and not with a lot of fanfare.
Hopefully that's the case on these.
I think that the there's no question the attorney general said that they are making this a top priority.
Clearly the president wants it a top priority.
Look, you mentioned this earlier in the last segment.
I mean, you had the conversations with the president and conversations he had with the leader of Mexico and Australia, those were leaked verbatim.
Now you've got the situation going on right now with North Korea and a nuclear threat that poses uh a test for everybody in the region and around the globe.
And you you sure don't want to see those leaks.
Uh so I think the leaks have to be clamped down.
I think this is a huge situation, Sean.
The whole leaking nature of the bureaucracy, and it has to be dealt with firmly, and it and I'm hopeful that the Attorney General is going to do that.
Do you think as I do that probably the biggest scandal if we ever got to the hundred and forty-five million dollars and where it came from and the signing off on on up to twenty percent of uranium, as in the case of the uranium-one deal, is that the biggest scandal in your mind?
That's our last question of about 20 seconds.
Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, how do you explain it?
I mean, that's why it's a scandal.
I mean, it's 20 percent of a uranium uranium going into Russia.
I mean, it it it it it what's the justification for this?
So sure.
I mean, uh and and you don't have to look that in the totality of circumstances.
Just look at what happened, what transpired, what we know transpired, and you ask yourself how is that deemed to be okay, appropriate, and not a violation of laws, rules, or statutes?
And uh, I think that has to be looked at very seriously.
I think you're right in a lot of different ways.
All right, uh, Jay Seculo, thanks for being with us.
We'll see you tonight on on Hannity.
We'll have more on this threat of North Korea, more on the deep state, more of the politics of the day.
We'll also get your calls in.
And when we get back at the bottom of the hour, we're gonna check in with Patrick J. Buchanan, see what he thinks of all of this.
And uh your calls coming up straight ahead.
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My question is does that mean that there are no red lines that Muller or any special counsel can investigate under the terms of your order, anything he finds.
Chris, the special counsel is subject to the rules and regulations of the Department of Justice, and uh we don't engage in fishing expeditions.
Now that order that you read, that doesn't detail specifically who may be the subject of investigation because we don't reveal that publicly.
Uh but Bob Mueller understands and I understand uh the specific scope of the investigation.
Uh and so no, it's not a fishing expedition.
I I understand it's not a fishing expedition, but you say any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation in the course of his investigation of the issues that he is looking at, if he finds evidence of a crime, can he look at that?
Well, Chris, if he finds evidence of a crime that's within the scope of what uh director Miller and I have agreed is the appropriate scope of this investigation, then he can.
If it's something outside that scope, he needs to come to the acting attorney general at this time me for permission to expand his investigation.
But we don't talk about that publicly, and so the speculation you've seen in the news media, that's not anything that I've said, it's not anything Director Muller said.
We don't know who's saying it or who credible how credible those sources.
People ask about this, of course, because uh you have Ten Star and Whitewater, and it ends began with a failed real estate deal in Arkansas and ended up with Monica Lewinsky.
To to expand, he would need to get approval from you to expand the nature of the investigation.
That's correct, just as did Ken Starr.
You know, Ken Starr received an expansion with believing was initiated by the Department of Justice by Janet Reno that resulted in that investigation.
All right, that was uh Chris Wallace and uh Rod Rosenstein, and you know, yeah, of course this is mission creep, investigative creep, everything that I told you it would end up being, and of course, so a lot of this is now the deep state.
There's so much corruption, and and how is he not recusing himself if if you start at Russia Trump collusion, you move to finances, then you move to obstruction as it relates to James Comey, then you're moving into other issues, and then you then all of a sudden you're now in conflict as Rod Rosenstein is, because Rod Rosenstein wrote a memo that Trump should fire James Comey.
It's it it is just the biggest cluster I've ever seen on top of the eight of the sixteen people that Robert Mueller put on his team have donated to Obama or Clinton or Democrats, and none have donated in any way to any Republican, and he even hired one of Hillary Clinton's attorneys, my friend Pat Buchanan with a provocative uh column out today.
After the coup, what then?
Anyway, how are you, sir?
Doing fine, Sean.
How are you?
Well, I got to talk to you about this, and I've got to talk to you about North Korea.
Uh let's start with this.
Let's start with Rosenstein.
Let's start with investigative creep.
Well, I think what's happened is uh when Ro the uh Chris Wallace did a good job.
That mushy verbiage on where they can go, I think is really a carte blanche uh to Mueller and these folks, and he's not hiring these folks because he wants to find out if Donald Trump communicated with WikiLeaks.
Uh they're doing this, they're going into the finances, they'll go into Trump's finances, any connections with the Russians that'll require tax returns and going back and the rest of it, and then you come into any other mistakes, I think, or something.
And I think it's this is really a hostile organism inside the executive branch, targeted primarily on the White House and the President, that is going to grow and grow and grow.
And I've never known uh one of these special prosecutors, special prosecution, Sean, to go home without taking some scalps.
Well, you even said the smell of blood is in the nostrils of the sewer and swamp that's known as Washington, D.C. I think you're right.
Uh I was happy to see the attorney general, Jeff Sessions, talk about there's basically been a deep state leak a day.
Every one of them are illegal.
Now think about how deep this goes, Pat.
You've now got the general counsel of the FBI being investigated for intelligent leaks.
You got James Comey, the FBI director, purposely leaking to the New York Times government information, some of it were told classified, to get the special counsel who ends up being his friend.
Then you've got Susan Rice, then you've got how is it possible for Samantha Power, the UN ambassador, to unmask hundreds of Trump people during the last year of this campaign during the election year.
And then Susan Rice, Ben Rhodes, uh Samantha Power, and it looks like Brennan and Clapper may have questions to answer as well.
I mean, this is as as much of a coup to use your word as anything I've seen.
you know, I agree, Sean, and it needs to be investigation.
If they can if they can connect the dots, what it looks like is that they took all of these uh phone calls, trans of Trump people with Russians or in any way, transcribe them, then unmask the Trump people, and then they took these uh these transcriptions and they sent them out to all seventeen intelligence agencies.
I don't know whether it was on the order of Susan Rice or the President of the United States, but clearly it seems designed to leave all these secrets or these these revelations and have them leaked constantly as soon as the President of the United States takes office.
You take that operation ongoing with the deep state doing the leaks and the hostile media publishing the leaks and hammering uh hammering the president of the United States every which way, every day, and then you got this new powerful organism that is growing inside the White House or inside the administration and under the Justice Department with enormous freedom to Rome that's moving on the White House and moving on Trump campaign associates and Trump family and
Trump himself.
I mean, the writing is on the wall here, Sean, and what I wrote in that column is look if they succeed in doing what was almost done with Clinton and was done with Nixon and bringing down a president, uh, what's the reaction going to be of the American people?
And I think it will be utter disillusionment with democracy.
The folks out there in Middle America say, look, we gave it everything we could, and we elected the man, and they threw him out.
And the deep state that we wanted to throw out, took over, ousted the president we elected, and committed a you know, I don't even want to think of the consequences of that.
I I don't want to if we're divided now, I can't imagine how how betrayed people are gonna feel, and how angry and how divided this country's gonna be.
I I d I can't even imagine this.
Well, I think that I I agree with you, and I don't know how we would come together after that, because I think the reaction in Middle America among a lot of us who support him would would not be you know, we're gonna you know take up arms or something like that.
It would be disillusionment, despair, cynicism, ascent.
Probably see states want us to secede from the union.
They'll feel like America, you know, is it's the republic is gone.
Well, that's exactly right.
They say that that we are look, we're just being led.
We're being led which is a fraud.
When he that we won we won, and then they overturned our victory.
And that's exactly what they're trying to do.
Um I know we cannot ignore what's happening in North Korea.
Now, the one good piece of news, 15 to zero, and that includes Russia and China, these sanctions against North Korea.
Okay, that's all fine and and good, but here's the bad news.
The bad news is Bill Clinton allowed this lunatic, this and his father, to get nuclear weapons.
Now we're seeing North Korea saber rattling and firing I C BMs that we're told can reach New York and Boston.
They're now making, according to the Washington Post, missile ready nuclear weapons, which is bad, and they have now the ability to mount the nuclear warhead on an ICBM.
Now, Pat, short of sending in a hit squad and taking this guy out, which both you and I know is next to impossible.
I don't see any good option here.
Because if you try to take out this guy's nuclear sites, and this should be a a warning to everybody about the mullahs in Iran, once they have nuclear weapons, your options are limited.
You try and take out the nuclear sites.
How do we know he doesn't launch against Seoul?
South Korea, how do we know he doesn't launch against Japan?
How do we know he doesn't even launch against China for crying out loud he's such a lunatic?
There's no good options in Hannity's playbook.
What do you have?
I uh I think you're you're pretty much correct.
Uh I think uh I don't think he's at the point where he can mount this miniaturized nuclear weapon on top of a missile and target it on a city in the United States.
Both the last two IBC ICBM tests, the nuclear the nose cone collapsed, they broke and collapsed apart on re-entry.
But there's no doubt he's headed that way, Sean.
Secondly, I agree with you.
I don't think the Chinese, the universal sanctions, 15 to zero.
I don't think that's going to get any movement in time.
I think uh Kim Jong on has determined that His only way to deter the Americans and prevent any kind of American attack on him is to be able to hit the United States with a nuclear weapon, and that's where he's gone, and he's not going to be dissuaded.
And he probably has right now the ability in a scud missile to put a nuclear weapon on South Korea.
So you're very, very close to the point where the only option is military or no option.
My view is basically this uh uh I think we ought to consider, frankly, uh allowing South if if he m continues moving this way, allowing South Korea and Japan to develop their own nuclear weapons with short range missiles.
Well, but we already have with him, when you really think deeply about it, he knows mutually assured destruction exists.
It does whether Japan has it or South Korea has it, and I I've thought through this a lot.
You know, the only thing that I think we could hope for is that there are agents inside that can get close to him.
That's the best case scenario.
Once I mean whoever takes over from him, has nuclear weapons.
And they're gonna have the missile, Sean.
And yeah, and i if you take him out or you fail, or you take him out, there's no guarantee that they won't launch all those conventional weapons.
They had at one point eleven thousand artillery pieces and missile emplacements on the DMZ.
You know what I'm afraid, Pap Buchanan, and we've been friends a long time.
We've had arguments over the years, but overall we have a lot of agreement.
You know what I'm afraid of?
I am afraid that North Korea now will define the Trump presidency, and I I'm beginning to think almost it's a certainty.
Well, if the only way you would define it, I think is Donald Trump takes us to war against North Korea.
I think there's real reluctance in the military and the Pentagon to do that in the absence of an absolute proof that uh Kim Caleb is putting nuclear warheads on top of missiles and in placing them uh to to target the United States of America.
Stay right there, Pat.
That's very scary, no good option.
And as we continue, Patrick J. Buchanan is with us for talking about the deep state, talking about really no good options in North Korea.
So the threshold for Pap Buchanan, if this these reports are true, which we have no reason to believe they're not, even though it comes from the Washington Post, so I'm always skeptical, Pat.
But if North North Korea is now making missile ready nuclear weapons, in other words, that they can now mount a nuclear warhead on an ICBM, and we're told the ICBMs can reach the continental U.S. even as far as New York City and Boston, Massachusetts.
That's the tipping point for you.
Well, yeah, I don't know that you can I mean, if you can tolerate that, I think uh that they can hit your country.
I mean, I would start taking my thought of this, Sean, is basically, look, I would have been years ago pulled the American troops out of Korea off the DMZ, allow South Korea, if the North builds a nuclear weapon to build its own nuclear weapon and to f have missiles capable of reaching the Yalu River,
moved our nuclear weapons onto ships our s offshore, maintained the alliance with South Korea, and told the uh you know the North Koreans, uh, you know, if they launched one of these missiles, they're gonna annihilate the country.
And uh I think I think we're gonna get there, but I'm frankly, I would not start a war.
I mean, we have lived under I hate to say it, we had we had a thousand uh Soviet nuclear weapons could hit the United States at one point, Sean, and we didn't go to war and thank the Lord Jack Kennedy was a cool, calm customer in the missile crisis.
Well, not disagreeing in any way.
I think I just don't know about the mental stability here.
I mean, as nuts as Khrushchev was and as nuts as former Soviet Union leaders were, they seem to understand mutually assured extruction.
I I'm not sure this lunatic understands it.
I think he I mean I do think I think he's very rational.
He's what he's doing.
Why do you think what gives you any indication he's rational?
I love you to death, but he doesn't seem to me.
He's helped me out.
He uses artillery pieces to kill us to kill members of his family.
But he's rational.
By the way, that's a really nice quality.
If he hits a nuclear arsenal or a missile that can hit the United States, he has a real deterrent against us doing to Pyongyang, What we did during nineteen fifty to fifty three under MacArthur and the successor generals, which was smash Pinyang with more bombs than we dropped in World War II.
He is deeply worried about the United States, these these maneuvers we're having in the US and Korea, that they may be prelude one day to a dash across that border to finish him off, and the one thing he's got that can deter that is the ability to strike the United States with a nuclear missile, and he ain't gonna give that up.
And he doesn't think we will attack him to prevent him from getting that.
And that's why he's pursuing it, and that's why he's not a madman.
He's an evil man, but he's not mad, and he's not stupid.
Well, I hope you're listening I think he's mad, and I don't see any I don't get any sense.
He represents everything evil in our time.
You're right, he's killing his own his own family, and he reminds me of a lot of despair.
Who if he actually said let's gear up a nuclear weapon and fired at the United States, one of their bases, say in in uh on Okinawa or something, I'm sure some of those military men would say he ain't gonna do that and get us blown to Kingdom Come and our families and our country and everything else, because the Americans will counterattack with nuclear weapons, and they would step in and act against him, I would think.
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You know, this is a president who's never, ever been capable of being shamed for hypocrisy, self-contradictions, any of that.
So it's really not surprising.
It fits this sort of pattern of uh, you know, Trump being, I've called him the times uh sort of a goldfish in the sense that he seems to forget what happened ten seconds before.
He's always in the moment just sort of reacting um and trying to get reactions, and he doesn't really worry about whether or not it contradicts something he said before um or a a broader point.
I don't like criminal investigations to start on the hoping that you have the target, maybe we'll find the crime, maybe we'll find the statute.
If we can't find the statute, we'll stretch the statute to fit the person.
That sounds like Lavrentiberia and Joseph Stalin.
Show me the man and I'll find you the crime.
I don't want to ever see that come to America.
That's Alan Dershowitz of all people.
I've not always agreed with politically, but he's actually been really amazing on how abusive these special counsels can be, especially in light of all of the conflicts as it relates to Robert Muller, all of the conflicts he's hiring what?
People that donate to Clinton, Obama, Democrats, even Hillary's attorney, one person with ethical issues, eight of them, eight that have not donated to anybody, so no Republican donors, and then of course Robert Muller, he gets it the job because his best friend, James Comey, actually leagues to the New York Times.
And James Comey using government information, some confidential information.
On top of that, now the general counsel, the FBI is now being investigated for a potential leaking.
Add to that, what do we know?
Ben Rhodes being investigated for unmasking, leaking.
Uh Susan uh Rice unmasking, leaking, investigation, Samantha power?
Really?
Why would the UN ambassador be unmasking in the year 2016 hundreds of people associated with the Trump campaign and others?
It's beyond the pale.
All right, joining us now, news roundup information overload hour.
Our friend Jeff Lord is with us, former associate political director in the Reagan administration and the author of uh the book, What America Needs, The Case for Trump, Jessica Tarlov is with us, and uh she is also a Fox News contributor.
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What is that?
What is what is bustle?
The f well the feminist epicenter of the millennial generation.
You know what I mean?
I just made that up.
That's not our official tag.
You know, Jeffrey Lord, no wonder I didn't know.
I mean, I'm so close to the millennial generation at this point in my life.
I'm like, really, Jesse.
I'm wondering, I'm wondering if Jessica works at Google.
I'm wondering if she works.
Yeah, did you see that?
Oh my God, and what a nightmare.
Jeff, why don't you explain it so our audience can get up to speed?
Yeah, I mean, Google apparently prides itself on diversity and tolerance, etc.
So some Google employee wrote uh a memo that basically said that conservatives feel like they're in the closet and they're discriminated against, and then put out his views on uh women and tech and all this sort of thing.
So the memo went viral, and the firm that prides himself on diversity and tolerance of different points of views immediately fired him.
Oh my God.
So you well we've known this forever.
How many years have we we talked about this?
I mean it's hilarious.
There's no tolerance.
I mean, we laugh at this, but this is serious stuff.
And I I uh you know, I uh what what's being done to you this minute, what is being done to to all kinds of people all across the board.
And it frankly doesn't make any difference other than whether their profile is high or not, whether it's being done to people on television and radio, whether it's being done in universities across the country, whether it's being done at Google, this is outright fascism.
And uh, you know, until we s enough people speak up and stop this in its tracks, this kind of thing is going to continue and it's deadly.
Well, I went over earlier today.
I mean, you've got this David Brock leak of the American Bridge playbook, which describes what is a well orchestrated plan to impeach the president of the United States.
This was discovered and I think printed by the free beacon, and it goes on page after page after page, the coordination, media matters, American bridge, crew, share blue, and how they want to a take down the president, get him impeached before he ever enters office, and delegitimize him, go after anybody that tries to support him or legitimize him.
And then of course we see their tactics, which are boycott, attack advertisers, silence conservatives.
You know, this is their you know, five hundredth run at me again, Jessica, and while I know you disagree with me, I know that you would never support a bite boycott of this program as I mean I've I've given you tons of hours of uh to voice your opinions, which I love you to death, but I don't agree with the chagrin of your uh viewers and listeners.
No, it's not it's not to the chagrin.
I can handle opposition.
I it's not to the chassis.
And I just meant your your fans don't love me that much, but it's okay.
I still love them anyway.
No, uh I don't I mean, obviously I I want you to stay on the air and I enjoy our discourse and I I don't think that people should at all try to stamp out free thought, right?
Everyone has the right to their opinion and to express it as the issue with the Google memo, with some of what that guy wrote in there was offensive specifically about women in tech, but that doesn't mean certainly that it doesn't have a right to exist, it should be debated and discussed, uh as with anything that isn't you know I guess putting anyone in immediate danger.
What is it about your what when they go on and on and on about a strategy that their goal is to, you know, for example, describe him as an unhinged narcissist, or that their goal is to go out there and impeach the president of the United States?
Do they not care that there are other Americans that actually like the president, fought for the president's win, a freely elected president, and for them to go out there and to stop him, quote Trump will be defeated either through impeachment or at the ballot box?
Why would they want to impeach somebody that at that point hadn't taken office?
Well, I think that that the underlying principle of that memo and what's going on with the resistance is that Donald Trump is not fit to be president, um and that he is going to be a disaster for the nation over the next four years, not just for those who didn't vote for him, but for those who are the the leak the illegal leak day by day uh from the deep state, the unmasking of Americans when you have former top Obama administration officials now that are involved in unmasking Americans picked up incidentally in intelligence.
I mean hang on, wait well.
Well, why would Samantha Power, a UN ambassador, as is reported, need to unmask hundreds of people in an election year, and many of them Trump associates.
That is absolutely right.
I don't know, and I mean hopefully we'll find out.
But so you don't seem too concerned.
Hopefully we'll find out.
You don't seem overly concerned about it.
Well, do you think I mean honestly, do you think that there weren't memos, and I'm sure that we could find them about how to take down Barack Obama, how to discredit him, how to go after Hillary Clinton, what to talk about, to talk about, oh, maybe she has Parkinson's disease to bring up constantly what she collapsed outside the the twelve.
Yeah, because of exhaustion.
Okay, but it's uh you I mean we shouldn't be speculating on that.
People don't want us to speculate.
Well, they tried Well, wait a minute.
I mean, she passed out before everybody the whole world could see.
Is it not fair to question what made her pass out?
Okay, but the Clintons are not exactly known for telling the truth, Jeffrey.
I mean, I think the fact that we question their veracity is frankly par for the course.
Well that's right.
And and again, Sean, this is the government, and what makes this frightening is what we were talking about a few seconds ago in terms of private groups trying to take people off the air and and shut down, you know, somebody at Google and all this.
This is that version of that done by the government with power.
I mean what in the world is the United Nations ambassador doing uh looking at anybody like this.
This is ridiculous.
But what they what they want to do, which is what makes us so dangerous is use government power to shut down dissent or to so uh what, smear people, whether it's Donald Trump or anybody else.
This is what's dangerous about it.
And it's a very serious thing and I would certainly hope I mean I'm no fan of special prosecutors, but if we're gonna have one, then we ought to have one who starts looking into this question just throwing it out there about boycotts, because obviously there's a long history of boycott bringing out bringing about a g good change, right?
Like it during the civil rights movement.
Right, the people shouldn't go to establishments that don't allow black people.
Right.
I I I hate I despise as Jeffrey does any discrimination at all.
Well absolutely I mean I was all for that.
I mean that's just fine.
If you want to go out there and publicly demonstrate good Lord when I was uh in college I demonstrated a time or two.
I mean go to it have at it but trying to shut people off the air using power to to shut down people and to ruin their reputations that is beyond the pale.
No I'm not missing that and obviously it was terrible when it was happening to Rachel Maddow as well and I know Sean talked about that.
What what I'm saying is that Sean here's the difference this is important.
The difference between Hannity and Maddow is Hannity said let everybody have freedom of speech.
What Hannity said is stop trying to silence voices.
What Hannity's done over the course of his long career is he hasn't supported boycotts because it's a roundabout way of getting shows canceled.
In this piece Media Matters literally when you you just read through it.
I don't think you've taken the time but you really ought to read through it because they actually brag about their success in hurting conservatives and and literally getting it says over the years Media Matters has won or assisted in a number of tangible victories from getting Glenn Beck off of cable news.
Exactly I I think Sean Hannity supports Rachel Maddow's right to express any conspiracy theory she wants which he does every night I don't care I don't watch it Sean one one thing here that makes this so particularly dangerous I'm looking right this minute and I've started to read what you're talking about there this handbook but I'm looking right this minute at uh a story from Media Matters and what is the headline CNN's voting rights coverage demonstrates it's Trump sycophant problem.
In other words they're now turning on CNN who is you know according to the the popular deal is is liberal.
What's going to happen here is enemies they're gonna go after their friends.
If it wasn't for you it would be the Rachel Maddow network over there.
And I say that now that you lost uh what's her name what uh Caley Yeah I mean now she's g uh it's good for her I mean there's only so much abuse you can take from David Axelrod and and Van Jones and Paul Bagala.
I don't know how you I I I don't know how much you get paid but it's not enough Jeffrey it's like combat pay.
I have I have a great time over there but uh you know it it is a it is amazing to me.
I mean and this is of course the eternal lesson of people on the left and their insistence on going after people is that once they once they get their enemies then they turn it on themselves.
Good Lord this was going on in the French revolution.
All right stay right there we got to take a quick break.
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By the way the folks over at CNN don't get mad that I'm poking at them when you're on the show because I'm actually promoting them to fifteen million people.
They should be happy that I I let them know you're a friend of mine and I'm not gonna I will not back down from my friendship.
Which which uh all of your friends know and love before and uh no no there there are people over in your network that hate me.
You know that.
And what there are people over at that network That don't like me.
Well, I know, but I I will I will say this, Sean, that uh when the subject is relevant, I certainly have mentioned you favorably on air, and uh I am not censored.
Well, that no, and by the way, that's all credit to you, and and we have a deep abiding friendship.
And and I'll be honest, even Jessica, who I disagree with is such a nice person, I find it very hard to be mean to her.
And there are times who infuriate on uh in the for this part of the conversation and about your reputation, Sean.
I obviously people and you know, I hang in liberal circles, have views about your views, but I've not heard one person actually say that you are nothing but a incredibly nice guy, and people are always asking me that too.
They're like, Oh, I heard Sean Hannity is actually super nice.
I'm like, yeah.
I hate that.
That's ruining my reputation.
I want to be viewed as mean and horrible.
I can't I can't do it.
I'm I'm not gonna do it.
Uh well, the only thing I want is this.
You know what's sad about all these attacks on our president?
This is the saddest thing, is that the forgotten men and women, and you should agree with this, Jessica, the ones in poverty on food stamps, the one out of the ones out of the labor force, the ones that can't buy their first home.
I was so happy when I was in my 30s and I could buy my first house.
I loved it.
I had a passion for it.
I wish I kept it.
And I gotta be honest, I feel that was my life, that was my background, that's who I am, and those opportunities are now fewer and far between, and they won't let this president fix it.
That's the sad part.
You know, I think one of the things that strikes me.
I mean, you've doubtless had this experience since you've been on television for so long, but it's relatively new for me.
And as I walk along the streets of Manhattan when I'm in New York, or or no matter where I am, I get stopped by people.
They're clearly working folks, and they are thanking me for standing up for the president.
Because they believe clearly that he is standing up for them.
And they don't want, you know, they don't want me in that case to back down, but they don't want him to back down.
And I think that is so significant.
These are the people who elected him.
And uh they're gonna stick with him.
Yeah, well, uh, you can see that in West Virginia.
And if anything, I think they're creating such a backlash, and the Democratic Party is nothing but a new bumper sticker, you know, a new way or a better way, whatever that is, and and a platitude, but uh it's not an agenda to win on that you just hate one person.
That's that's not gonna help the life of anybody.
So I think the Democrats too are in disarray and they've got their own issues to deal with.
Yeah, that's the story that goes untold, I think, here with all the Trump coverage.
Yeah, agreed.
Well said he wrote an op-ed about this for Fox on Friday.
Exactly.
Calling out, yeah, check it out.
Uh calling out the Bernie Sanders wing of the party for going after Kamala Harris and Corey Booker, and they're gonna do exactly what they did uh to Hillary last time, and we will remain uh deeply divided, which is problematic.
Um but to your point about the everyday man, yeah, Trump support.
We saw that poll showed in the counties he won, he's still around fifty percent.
But the new CNN numbers from this week that show that his support is depressed within his key backers, right?
Of those who strongly favor um is drinking and amongst Republican voters generally.
So I I don't know.
I mean, his approval based on the case.
No, I I think no, I don't think so.
It's really the re the I think the Republican Party is in far bigger trouble than anything.
Donald Trump at least has an identity and agenda, and he's fighting.
Republicans are weak and pathetic and they're doing nothing.
All right, I gotta let you both go.
Thank you.
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Really scary.
North Korea threatening nuclear retaliation.
And you know, beyond the sanctions, which I thought was a big win not only for the president, but you're beginning now, even China.
And it was a 15 to zero vote, and even Russia are now aligned and with this new information today that North Korea can now mount a nuclear warhead in on an ICBM, that is beyond frightening.
In other words, North Korea is now making missile ready nuclear weapons.
In other words, ready to roll.
In other words, ready to be fired.
Now we were told, and I I I think this is an abject lesson that you cannot trust radical madmen with their promises, and there's no amount of money or bribery that is going to prevent them from their pursuit of nuclear weapons.
That's why the that's why the Iranian deal was so bad.
If Mullers and Iran get nuclear weapons, we will be facing this threat, like we're facing this threat today with North Korea.
Now there's no good option.
I've been saying this all day.
Unless there's somebody deep inside North Korea that sees the danger themselves and if they risk taking this guy out.
But even then, who gets in charge then?
Who would be in charge of these nuclear weapons with ICBM capability, perhaps, that can reach New York and Boston and the continental United States?
We were told at the time by then-President Bill Clinton, don't worry, this is a good deal for America.
Remember this.
Before I take your questions, I'd like to say just a word about the framework with North Korea that Ambassador Gallucci signed this morning.
This is a good deal for the United States.
North Korea will freeze and then dismantle its nuclear program.
South Korea and our other allies will be better protected.
The entire world will be safer as we slow the spread of nuclear weapons.
South Korea, with support from Japan and other nations, will bear most of the cost of providing North Korea with fuel to make up for the nuclear energy it is losing.
And they will pay for an alternative power system for North Korea that will allow them to produce electricity while making it much harder for them to produce nuclear weapons.
The United States and international inspectors will carefully monitor North Korea to make sure it keeps its commitments.
Only as it does so will North Korea fully join the community of nations.
All right, as I promised, really, really scary times.
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All right, let's go to Vinny.
Vinny is in New York City, listening on the all-new AM710WOR, the voice of New York, New Jersey, Long Island.
How are you, sir?
Hi, Sean, how are you?
Sean, I I've listening to speak with Jay Sekulow and watching you last night in regards to all these scandals that for for months and almost uh a year and a half, Republicans quiet, no comment, not on on the radio, not on the news talking about these scandals under the Obama administration.
Now they do nothing to help President Trump, and now you're dealing with North Korea.
And and where are they now?
They better get behind the president no matter and and stand fair for him, because we have a madman who potentially uh can launch a rocket at us.
And and I better hear guys like McConnell and McCain and Lindsey Graham, and how about Collins who turned the back on the president and Mikowski?
They better get front and center with President Trump and and defend him and whatever action he's going to need to take against North Korea.
I actually think that there's no doubt the you know, it's funny, I I had planned a very different program today, but it's just, you know, when something this serious now confronts a country and confronts the world, and I've been talking about this.
I even said a while back that I I'm really worried that North Korea is going to define the Trump presidency because I s I just been watching this guy launch after launch after launch after launch.
I'm was watching he now wants to load nuclear weapons in the submarines.
We now see that he has the ability, which is I think the most frightening thing, and that he now has the ability to mount a nuclear weapon on uh ICBM.
So what are your options?
Well, your options are none.
You go in, you take out all the nuclear sites, you destroy North Korea.
North Korea will be obliterated.
Does he launch weapons before he gets taken out?
Does he launch at South Korea?
Does he launch at the United States?
Does he launch at China?
Does he launch at Japan?
You just don't know.
It's not a good situation.
No, not at all.
But again, uh the president will take strong action.
He will need world leaders to back him, and he will lead his own party to back him, which they haven't done since he's taken office with the r ridiculous repealed and replaced.
Where is the wall?
Taxes.
They've done nothing, Sean.
And they really better stand behind him now because this is this is probably the most serious problem he'll he'll face in his in his four year presidency and hopefully eight years.
So I uh you know, you gotta really here's Mike Fear.
You know, I wrote this book when I wrote Deliver Us from Evil years ago.
You know, I went through a history.
I actually spent a lot of time researching and studying for that book more than any anything I've ever done in my life, and I made it my my research project.
And I spent all these hours watching, you know, the if you watch the History Channel, the American Heroes Channel, and you watch the rise of Hitler, and you're like, how is it possible for a population to be indoctrinated?
How is it possible for for people to go to work and kill their fellow human beings and that's what they want to do every single day?
And that's what and then you go home and what are you eat dinner with your own kids and your own family?
How can you have such a uh a mental emotional spiritual disconnect that you're dead inside?
You know, that's pure evil on on somebody's part, and you're participating in pure evil.
But it's happened, you know, the the killing fields in Cambodia, evil Nazi Germany, fascism, Stalin, Russia, and in the last century alone, way over a hundred million human souls destroyed in the name of evil.
Then you can look on the micro level, and then you could see all right, how does somebody kill an innocent person?
How does somebody how does a uh an animal rape a woman, an innocent woman?
How do people, you know, how does how do people physically assault old people?
How do you ever harm a child?
There is throughout human experience, evil after evil after evil.
I'm not trying to be dark here.
I'm just facing truth and facing reality.
And this is evil, like for example, we've got evil in our time.
The mullahs in Iran are evil.
This dictator in North Korea is evil, not to be trusted and and unhinged.
You've got e you know, radical Islamist, you got ISIS, you got Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, all of these different groups.
There's a lot of dark evil in the world.
So I, you know, if and for those that think, and this was the point about mentioning the book, those that think it it can happen again, you're not even looking at modern history.
You're not looking at the last hundred years of human history.
You're just you're lost.
And you are the the the you know, look at 9-11.
Who are that's human evil.
It exists, it's real.
You can't negotiate with it, you can't bribe it, you can't talk to it, you can't think, you know, well, they'll do the right thing.
They're just evil.
And you gotta defeat it, and that's the only way to win.
And we're now our back is against the wall.
The world's back is against the wall.
We allowed a madman and his father to get nuclear weapons.
Now they have them, and now they're holding trying to hold the world hostage.
And the options we have are few, and none of them are great, and the loss, the potential loss of life is severe.
A catastrophe that maybe gets seen once a generation or two generations.
It's chilling, actually.
And it's real.
Anyway, Vinny, appreciate it.
Montreal, Canada.
Richard is next.
Richard, you're on the Sean Hannity show.
Hi.
Yeah, hi, Sean.
This is very disappointing that the uh previous administrations did nothing about this huge problem.
Obama has done nothing for eight years with North Korea.
He basically gave a hundred and fifty billion dollars to Iran, and Iran is now an ally of North Korea.
North Korea recently went to visit with with uh with Iran.
It's unbelievable what's going on.
That and they're gonna and watch CNN blame President Trump for this.
Okay, President Trump's not responsible for Kim Jong-un acquiring nuclear weapons and nuclear capability, and I didn't see that Barack Obama did anything in the last eight years.
Right, exactly.
You know, look, uh this is one of these moments to be perfectly blunt.
I mean, I could focus on how Stupid Bill Clinton was and naive he was, and you know, it's the same mentality of peace in our time, peace in our time.
And if I'm nicer to you, you're gonna be nicer to me, but you you can't negotiate with people at that level of evil.
You can negotiate with people that are evil on some degree, but you really can't.
Because if they really want to do something horrible, they're gonna do something horrible.
Right.
Yeah, it's scary.
Appreciate it.
Uh, Dave in California.
Dave, hi, how are you?
Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
You're amazing.
I love your work.
Um, I'm translated from New Jersey.
Didn't vote for 25, 30 years.
Had to vote for Trump because I thought he could maybe change things.
How do we get rid of the two biggest swirl threats there is, which is uh Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell?
How do we get rid of those people?
You know, I I just think that if they can't get their job done, and to one extent, you know, Paul Ryan told me that an awful lot of things would have been accomplished by now, and they're not.
I mean, there's no other way to describe this except that he made a promise.
We even have built in cushion, he told me, and the job's not done.
Mitch McConnell, on the other hand, is just pathetic.
He didn't even get anything done for the most part.
And uh if the if you know, and then I don't know, it's just really weird.
It's uh it's I I don't understand what they're doing beyond everything else.
If they think they're hurting the president, the president's slamming them, ripping them, tearing them up.
Republicans, rank and file are livid at them.
And this is going to hurt them at the ballot box.
They've got a very small window now when they get back in September to get the job done.
And if they don't get the job done then, then there's really they'll pay the consequences, and there are you know, there's a price to be paid, and broken promises are broken promises, and then I think all bets are off for 2018, and that hurts the country, and that hurts the people that believe their lies, because that as of now they're lies.
And that's you know, a real sad disappointment.
I mean, people disappoint us in life a lot, but this is probably the biggest political letdown, at least in my lifetime.
You know, as I say, Republicans don't have an identity.
Donald Trump has an identity, he has passion, he's pushing, he's driving, he's fighting.
Republicans, they're they're just a mess.
There was no talk of any real creative narrative solution, paradigms for health care.
They are they're out there.
We've discussed them for 15 plus years about health savings accounts.
I guess, you know, I I they they've lost their identity, and we ended up with a vote on oh, repeal light or whatever they call this thing.
It just it was pathetic.
You know, I keep putting on Dr. Umber about health cooperatives, and nothing.
He gets called to Washington a few times, waste his time and nothing.
So I don't know how they get out of the mess they're in.
And if they, you know, now Marco Rubio.
Oh, he's not gonna pass the wall in the Senate.
Great, isn't that wonderful?
All right, appreciate it.
800 941 Sean is our number if you want to be a part of the program.
Uh, we're gonna have all of this tonight on Hannity 10 Easter, and we got New Kingrich and so many others that are gonna join us.
Uh so we hope you'll join us on that.
I'd like to say just a word about the framework with North Korea that Ambassador Galushi signed this morning.
This is a good deal for the United States.
North Korea will freeze and then dismantle its nuclear program.
South Korea and our other allies will be better protected.
The entire world will be safer as we slow the spread of nuclear weapons.
With a deal to stop the progress of nuke uh Iran's nuclear program and roll it back in key areas.
We have achieved the framework for that deal.
And it is a good deal, a deal that meets our core objectives.
This framework would cut off every pathway that Iran could take to develop a nuclear weapon.
They will be met with fire and fury, like the world has never seen.
He has been very threatening beyond a normal station.
And as I said, they will be met with fire, fury, and frankly, power, the likes of which this world has never seen before.
Thank you.
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