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June 28, 2017 - Sean Hannity Show
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The Greatest Government Failure - 6.27
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If you want to join us, you know, I've broken all of this down and I've been in a bit of a tweeting, twitting, you know, insanity mode.
I'm going to stop soon.
Every time, if you notice, Linda, I go on these Twitter, I just go, I'm bored.
I'll be perfectly honest, and it entertains me.
And there's nothing on TV.
I watched like two movies last night: Rocky, Cinderella Man, Jason Bourne.
I flip back and forth the same movies.
I can regurgitate the lines by heart.
I love all those movies.
Gladiator, what else do I like?
I like Passion of the Christ, Braveheart.
Those are the movies I like.
I don't like these dopey, ridiculous comedies.
They're mind-numbingly stupid.
And I just can't focus.
And I'm not doing that.
I'm watching the history channel, the American Heroes Channel, National Geographic, if they're not trying to indoctrinate me into global warming propaganda, which is hard.
And so that's kind of like my fare.
And then every once in a while, I said, you know what, I'm going to just go to war.
And last night we had a pretty good reason to go to war.
And that is that CNN went after my good friend unfairly and lied about Anthony Scaramucci.
And he is a friend of mine.
And once again, they had to retract a fake news story.
And then, you know, the saddest part about it is then they come out with an article written by, you know, one of their three stenographers for Jeff Zucker, who should be fired from CNN.
Jeff Zucker's made a conscious decision.
He's going all in to battle Trump.
Period, end of sentence.
And anybody not on that bandwagon, anybody that's not on board with that, you know, can pretty much get the hell out of there because you don't see any people with a different point of view there.
Meaning on CNN, the Clinton News Network, you just don't see them.
And so that's Zucker's, that's his agenda.
And in the process, he's destroying a brand.
And last night, when they talked about the three people that were responsible for the fake news story, again, another Russia connection story, and only the latest and a number of examples that they've had, and then the petty baloney that they're, well, he takes two scoops of ice cream instead of one.
Does he have a hand phobia?
Does Donald Trump not like ramps?
Does he have a stairs phobia?
This is the kind of crap, if they're not doing Russia, Russia, Russia, that they're reporting.
Then Project Veritas comes out today, and they're like, whoops.
I actually wasn't going to talk about this story.
And the reason I wasn't going to talk about it, I said, uh-oh.
I saw the Project Veritas video, and I'm thinking, uh-oh, this guy's going to get fired.
I really believed it.
And I'm watching, oh man, here you got an honest CNN worker, and he writes, he's, you know, ratings are incredible.
President Trump is good for business.
And he says, you know, the Russian narrative, mostly BS right now, the guy's telling the truth.
You know, he quotes Jeff Zucker, get back to Russia, get back to Russia.
And President Trump, that's a witch hunt.
There's no evidence of Russian collusion.
Clapper said it.
Comey said it.
Brennan said it.
Rogers said it.
Warner said it.
Manchin said it.
Feinstein said it.
Waters, Maxime Waters even said it.
And there's been no evidence.
And we've had conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory after black helicopter theory after tinfoil hat conspiracy theory after one after another.
And it's been fake news.
And this poor guy on camera is literally caught saying it's total BS right now.
We don't have any proof at all.
And he just, you know, just to give you some context, the president pulled out the climate accords for a day and a half.
We covered the climate accords.
And Jeff Zucker said in our internal meeting, he said, good job, everybody, covering climate accords.
We're done with that.
Now get back to the conspiracy theory.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
So Jeff Zucker has an agenda.
Now, the only thing I'm saying to Time Warner is, why are you allowing one man to destroy any sense of a news brand you have over there or had over there at CNN with an obvious personal vendetta and an obvious personal agenda?
Why is that possible?
Now, let me just play.
This is, let me tell you why I wasn't going to.
And Linda, put on your microphone because you and I went over this today.
We have been, I think, some of the biggest supporters of James O'Keefe.
I happen to be in the middle of taking on Zucker and Andy Lack, and I'm not going to stop.
And I have so much more information.
And I'll tell you why, because what they're doing is wrong.
What they're doing to the country is wrong.
And they think they're doing it for ratings and ratings equals profit.
And they think this is about money.
And in the process, I argue they're hurting their country with lies.
They've destroyed any semblance of objectivity and journalism in America.
And they've also lied about me.
And so they put out a phony press report last night, you know, saying the three people actually resigned.
They didn't resign, in my opinion.
I'd like to see evidence that they resigned.
Oh, what?
That they signed a paper, they resigned.
How much are they getting paid to resign?
Because they don't want this to get to Zuckerber because this is really about Zucker's preservation.
Did he pay him a couple of hundred thousand?
Did he pay him a half a million, a million dollars?
How much did he pay him?
I don't believe so.
I think they use, my opinion, fake news, you know, dictated to one of their three stenographers, including Humpty Dumpty, and they come out with the fake news that, oh, they resigned.
I don't believe it for a second.
And then you got this guy.
And the reason that Linda and I kind of agreed, and we really love James O'Keefe.
We think he's courageous.
We think he's done incredible work in the past.
The media has lied repeatedly about him.
And he's been unfairly treated, just like anybody that's a conservative in the media or does anything that is unconventional.
And he's kind of a groundbreaking guy.
We've had him on this program many times, but I didn't want, I'll tell you why I felt uncomfortable.
And I expressed this to Linda.
And then I expressed it to James O'Keefe.
And he actually said, that's legitimate.
And I think he said the same thing to you, Linda.
But when we talked about it last night a little and then more this morning, I said to you, this guy's getting canned.
And I don't know, there's just a part of me that I work with people that are on the production side of TV.
I work with producers.
I work with production crews.
I work with those that are in the control room.
And I happen to love everybody on my team.
And it just so happens that in New York, these are really, really rare and good career jobs.
They pay a decent amount of money.
And I knew that when I saw this, what did I say to you, Linda?
This guy's going to get fired.
This guy's going to get fired.
And by the way, it's not critical of James.
I mean, this is really gold because he's exposing really who Jeff Zucker is.
And I don't know, maybe it's just my own personal situation.
I'm so close to these people that work for me that I just couldn't, I didn't want to be a part of it.
I was going to wait to air it until the guy was, I thought, going to be fired.
Well, CNN just released.
Well, no, what you wanted to do was you wanted to make sure that he was.
I didn't want to contribute to it.
Yes, I did not want to contribute.
And I figured the platform that we have here is big.
And that if we went hard, which we could have, I just, I feel like it's going to seem like I'm trying to get this guy fired.
And I actually admire the guy.
And I think also it's fair to say.
By the way, he should be working at Fox anyway, but there's a lot of people at Fox that work on the production side do not agree with their hosts or might be liberal in their opinions.
There is one of my stage managers that I love her, and she is the biggest Bernie supporter in the world.
One of our makeup, my main makeup person now, I mean, this will take people back in time, used to work on Rush Limbaugh's TV show years ago.
And he used to call her the commie babe, remember?
And she laughs about it to this day.
We're like best friends.
I love her.
I love her family.
I know her husband.
They're just great people.
Yeah, I mean, I think the focus just needs to be here on people that are hurt.
And the decision makers are Zucker, the host.
They are decision makers.
This poor guy is just a producer who has.
Well, the tape is golden.
And by the way, as usual, this is only phase one of a James O'Keefe investigation, and he's got more coming out tomorrow.
And I'm glad he does what he does.
And I just, I didn't, I don't know.
I mean, I'm so close to the people that work for me.
And you know how deeply I care about our team here.
Sunshine, don't I care about all you guys?
Don't I?
Very much.
Your lives matter to me.
I take into account, I can't get fired on purpose because I know I'd hurt all of you.
And I could get fired tomorrow.
I would never want to hurt your guys.
You guys have, you know, either mortgages to pay or you're paying rent or you're looking to buy a house or you've got, in the case of Jason, I think he takes care of 5,000 people in his life.
I mean, he's got a lot of responsibility.
And what I do matters to my team.
So I don't know.
I just, I felt, I just felt bad about it.
I mean, you told me you agreed and you didn't think I was nuts.
That's what you said, Sunshine.
Meaning, Linda.
Oh, I didn't know I was Sunshine today.
Forgive me.
No, you're not.
No, not after you ripped me before the show the way you did.
Well, at least you know I have a high moral ethical standard and high ground.
And so do I.
And so do I.
And that's the whole point.
Anyway, we have the cuts.
And now that CNN, and I'll say this, if they fire this poor guy, I'm going to do everything.
I will take it to the top of Fox and try and get this guy a job.
Because I just, I know what it's like to not have money.
These are very good jobs.
They're not easily replaced.
And that was my only concern about it.
But I'm glad he exposed Zucker for who he is.
Let's play it.
DeMoy CNN constantly like Russia this, Russia that?
Because his ratings.
Our ratings are incredible right now.
Honestly, you'd think the whole rush is just like bull.
Could be bull.
I mean, it's mostly bull now.
Like, we don't have any big, giant proof.
I just feel like they don't really have it, but they want to keep digging.
And so I think the president is probably right to say, like, look, you are witch hunting me.
Like, you have no smoking gun, you have no real proof.
And the CEO of CNN said in our internal meeting, he said, good job, everybody, covering the climate accords.
But we're done with that.
Let's get back to Russia.
Oh, let's get back to Russia.
Let's advance what they know is a false story with no evidence.
How do you do it at this point?
And here's the only good news I can say is now because the liberals have lied, manipulated, and done all these things, it has now opened the door for the real investigations to begin.
And you want to know what the real investigation is?
I even posted them on Twitter today because there's no evidence of collusion.
So you want to investigate, let's investigate Comey and his leaks violating the Records Act.
Let's look at, you know, tarmac.
It's a matter, not an investigation, lynch and obstructing as it relates to Hillary.
Let's investigate Hillary Clinton's mishandling and destruction of classified documents.
Let's look at Hillary Clinton's real Russia collusion and the Uranium One deal.
Let's put Obama under oath and investigate, you know, why did he not investigate Russia when he knew about possible attempts to influence our elections in August because he thought Hillary was going to win.
Let's look at the unmasking and the intelligence gathering and raw intel leaked on General Flynn.
Let's look at why Mueller has so many conflicts of interest and is hiring Hillary Clinton's attorney and all these people that donated to Obama and Hillary.
Those are the top six.
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Because their bill is aimed at helping the very wealthy, whereas we are trying to hurt to help American families.
Okay, we want to, of course, even though we're going to spend 20% more in 10 years, it's a cut and we're going to have people die.
You know, this has been one of the greatest government failures in the history of government.
Keep your doctor, keep your plan, save on average per family $2,500 a year.
Millions lose their doctor, lose their plans, see dramatic on average, $6,000 to $8,000 premium increases, massive increases in deductibles, a lack of service, the likes of which we've never seen, a total redistribution from the young and the healthy to the sick and the elderly and the uninsured.
And it fails and collapses to the point where almost every major insurer is pulling out.
Iowa's left with one.
That's it.
And many counties, I think, what, 40% of American counties have one option for insurance.
No choices, none whatsoever.
That's after you've lost your own doctor and your own plan.
And anyway, so the bottom line is, now we've got to fix up their mess.
Now we've got to end their mess.
And as a result, Democrats are now saying, well, little children are going to die.
It's just back to the Paul Ryan throwing Granny over the cliff narrative nonsense.
And then after that, it's Republicans want dirty air and dirty water.
None of it is true.
And the good part is, is that the CBO numbers, and by the way, they've never been particularly good at predicting the numbers of people that are actually on health insurance.
But yeah, when you start penalizing and fining people for not having health plans, then I guess it becomes enormously difficult for anybody to say no.
And there are a lot of healthy people that would rather not have a health plan.
I went for years early in my adult life without any health insurance.
Then why I couldn't afford it.
So I didn't have it.
And when I fell off a roof and busted up my arm and broke my and dislocated my arm and they wanted to operate and take out my radial head and I said no, the radial head of my arm, left arm, I said no.
And it ended up being a really smart decision.
In the end, I met somebody who did have the operation and it didn't work out too well for them.
Anyway, I took my chances.
My sister was an emergency room nurse.
I ended up agreeing to do construction work when I got better for the doctor and his office and it worked out fine.
It wasn't the most ideal situation.
You know, it's like having Dr. Umber on yesterday.
I'm like, well, let me guess, if somebody can't pay the 50 bucks a month and they come in your office and they have no money, you're not going to kick them out, are you?
And he goes, no, of course not.
I can tell you for a certainty that I have doctor friends of mine that can't bill 30, 40% of the work they do on any given year.
And they do it because people can't afford it.
And they've taken an oath and they're committed to getting people well.
Almost all of them do it.
And a huge percentage of their time in business because they're good people.
So my boss, I shouldn't say this, my boss, a couple days yesterday, we were having a discussion about this dental shoot.
And he goes, he's like, I just want you to know what we're up against here.
And he goes, just to give you some context, President Trump pulled out of the climate accords.
And for a day and a half, we covered the climate accords.
And the CEO of CNN said in our internal meeting, he said, good job, everybody, covering the climate accords.
But we're done with it.
Let's get back to Russia.
The CEO?
Yeah.
Oh, God.
So, even the climate accords, he was like, okay, a day or so, but we're moving back to Russia.
I mean, I understand.
That's all ratings, right?
It's a business.
It's a business.
People are like, the media has like an ethical.
But I don't know.
All the nice QT little ethics that used to get talked about in journalism school.
You're just like, that's adorable.
That's adorable.
Yeah, it's a business.
Especially cable news.
You know, cable news isn't the New York Times, and it's not, it's not even like NBC News.
It's, it's, I mean, NBC News still hits 20 million viewers and cable news is getting a million.
So they got to do what they got to do to make their money, I think.
And so I love the news business, but I find it so cynical about it.
At the same time, so are most of my colleagues.
Yeah, it's like not alone.
NBC is getting, what, like, five or six million a night?
I don't know.
You know, I honestly don't pay all that much attention because they don't get good ratings over at CNN.
But, you know, when you add up the two broadcasts of my show and sometimes more, we're talking four or five million.
So I don't know what they're talking about, but I guess that's them.
And thanks to all of you for that because you're the ones that make all of that possible.
But the, yeah, I don't blame them for being cynical.
Okay, back to Russia, even though they know Russia's false.
Now, maybe if they were a little more journalistic-oriented, and you'll say, well, Hanity, you're an opinion host.
Well, yeah, I'm an advocacy journalist.
I consider what I, you know, there are times I do objective, fair, balanced interviews.
There are times I do debates.
There are times I give opinion.
My opening monologues are opinion and information based on facts.
You know, I'm telling you what the mainstream media won't tell you.
And we do it on this program, too.
I mean, there is an information crisis in this country.
I said to you, journalism is dead.
It is.
And, you know, we're now at a point where, you know, they found no collusion.
And there are issues that now need to be investigated about real crimes that have been committed, including Hillary, Russia.
You know, look at Russia collusion Uranium One story.
How is it Obama knew about Russia trying to influence our elections in August of 2016 and did nothing because his thought process was Hillary Clinton was going to win?
So he needs to get under oath.
He needs to start answering some questions about how that happened.
We know a crime was committed against Michael Flynn, General Flynn.
His unmasking, the raw intelligence leaked.
We know something unethical and major conflicts of interest exist with the special counsel, Mueller.
How in God's name do you have a former Clinton lawyer on his team and Clinton donors and Obama donors?
And I don't see any in people that have questionable ethics.
And you've got Comey and leaking to the New York Times.
Well, that's a violation of the Records Act.
That's a felony.
You got Loretta Lynch.
It's a matter, not an investigation.
Let's meet on the tarmac before I make my decision.
You know, the report that she was confronted by Comey, that she had put the kibosh on any possible Hillary indictment, that's obstruction of justice at the highest levels.
Hillary mishandling of classified information, that's a crime, which he did with the email server in the mom and pop shop bathroom closet.
Felony.
Destroying documents, classified top secret, special access program, felony.
It's all there for everybody to see.
So now you got fake news, CNN, real fake news, is having a major credibility crisis, as is conspiracy theory news NBC.
And the president, to his credit, is calling them out.
And, you know, I got to tell you, it's unraveling for them on a daily basis.
And I don't believe, I think they released a fake news report last night through one of their stenographers directly from Zuckerber using fake news to cover up a fake report.
I don't believe for a minute that these people resigned.
I don't believe for a minute that they weren't paid.
You know why you got fake news?
It's anti-Trump.
It's propaganda, misinformation, distortion, a political smear machine in the name of news.
You know, and I don't know who's winning the battle in this competition with NBC to be the most anti-Trump.
But they keep getting caught for pushing fake news.
And you got supposedly these three people resigning.
I don't believe they resigned.
Prove to me that they resigned.
It's not going to happen.
And Jeff Zucker is taking a once pretty credible brand and has destroyed it.
I mean, it's almost dead, gone, buried forever.
You know, Camille Paglia on this program said it's going to take 30 years for journalism to ever get their reputations back.
I don't even think that ever happens because they're not going to change.
They've shown no inclination at all to change.
And by the way, I make my living with opinion journalism, and it is journalism.
And, you know, there's, but you got to make the distinction.
I don't think there's anybody in the country that watches Hannity on Fox News that doesn't know this is an opinion program.
But interestingly, I would argue that as an opinion program, you get more facts, more truth, more information than what you're getting from any of these major news organizations.
How often has the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC been wrong?
How many of these groups were found to have colluded with Hillary Clinton in the last election?
Most, if not all of them.
CNN claiming, oh, the only reason that this article was published was because, quote, standard editorial processes were not followed.
Well, they may want to review the editorial process because they've been forced to retract several other fake news stories.
CNN had to delete a tweet on their website claiming that only Democrats prayed before the congressional baseball game.
Who came up with that lie?
I was there for crying out loud.
And then, of course, you know, earlier this month, before the FBI director's congressional testimony, CNN had to change that story.
Remember, it was right after he released his opening statement, if I'm not mistaken, when he stated that Comey would contradict the president's statements about not being under investigation.
Whoopsie-daisy.
And that all appears to be just the beginning.
And now we've got James O'Keefe.
This is only phase one today.
Project Veritas out with a new video showing a CNN producer, actually, just speaking forthrightly and honestly, admitting that his network has a massive anti-Trump agenda and advancing fake news stories on purpose for ratings and that it's good business to advance phony stories.
In response to the video, CNN stands by our medical producer, whatever the person's name is.
Diversity of personal opinion is what makes CNN strong.
We welcome it.
We embrace it.
Well, what were they going to do?
I mean, I actually worried this poor guy was going to get fired.
Already inquiring if there were jobs available.
And I didn't want to be the tipping point.
I didn't want to be the guy that came on TV, blew this out of the water, and this poor guy got fired.
In part because I work with people in production on TV.
I work with producers on TV.
I work with crews in TV.
I work with people that are directors and tech operatives, and they're wonderful people.
You've gotten into this thing on my show where once a week I let one person of my crew pick dinner and we bring him pizza or Chick-fil-A or what's the name of that hamburger five guys or whatever everybody wants.
One person gets to pick.
They usually all pick pizza.
It's hilarious.
But anyway, I'm glad the producer's not losing his job.
I wasn't going to talk about it.
I even told James O'Keefe, I don't want to be the guy that gets this poor guy fired.
Anyway, CNN didn't address or bother to react.
You know, this brand is being run into the ground because of the agenda of one person.
That's Jeff Zucker.
Get back to Russia.
Use the Russia collusion conspiracy theories to drive up ratings.
No wonder why the president calls them out for very fake news.
Then you have Jim Acosta having a fit every day that nobody wants to call on him.
Well, why should they call on him after the way they've treated the president?
You know, there was a recent Harvard study from January 20th to the end of April, 93% of CNN's coverage of the president was negative.
You know, I said last night on Twitter, Zucker needs to face consequences.
This is Zucker's left-wing ideological agenda.
And then he's got three people that work for him that I call as stenographers, you know, that have jobs only to put out his propaganda.
And basically, it's an attack, Fox, Attack Hannity agenda.
I'm just not going to, I'm not going to not punch back.
We're going to fight fire with fire.
And that's my motto.
I don't usually start any Twitter fights.
Almost all of them are brought to me, but the fact that I'll hit 10 to every one that they throw at me just means that I fight harder.
And I'm just not going to take it from these people that I know are fake and phony and fraudulent and a bunch of liars.
And what they've done to the profession of journalism is a disgrace.
Here you have the head of a news network who's a Trump-hating political operative who's attacking Fox.
They're a wonderful journalist at Fox.
I just happen to be an opinion journalist, and there's a big difference.
I'm a talk show host, and everything that encompasses being a talk show host.
You know, you've got a guy that's pretending, and where are the shareholders at Time Warner?
By the way, it's no different than Andy Lack over at NBC.
Our friends over at the Media Research Center put together a chart analyzing ABC, NBC, CBS, and their evening newscast for over a month.
They found that the newscasts have a clear obsession over Trump and Russia and Comey and the investigation in spite of no evidence.
If the evidence comes out, I'll present it to you, but I'm not sure what the evidence is going to be.
I keep saying this on Twitter and to anybody that'll listen.
Oh, that somebody from where?
Somebody from the somebody from Russia said that they had information on Hillary that proves she's a liar, that proves she committed crimes because she had a private email server.
I mean, why shouldn't the American people see that anyway before an election?
What's the crime there of anybody in the Trump campaign?
I would think journalism is about getting to the truth.
I think the American people knowing the truth of a candidate's a liar and a candidate committed crimes before an election would be a good thing.
I don't know if you're watching this Ukraine cyber attack, but they now have chaos at their national bank, their state power provider, and their airport because of hackers.
If you don't have it now, Life Lock, now's the time.
You know, if you look at the timeline of this collusion story, it's, you know, all of it fits into a narrative that says, wow, this is all about politics.
Obama knew in August, why didn't Obama do anything about it?
Why didn't Obama do anything about it?
Now, Trump ripped CNN over their confession that Russia Gate is mostly BS.
Anyway, the president tangled with fake news, CNN, and after Project Veritas released it, the president goes to Twitter and said that the video caught fake news, CNN cold, and that the network was looking at big management changes now that they got caught pushing a phony Russian story.
This is an effort to take down a president of the United States of America.
This isn't a game.
CNN reporters end up walking the plank.
I doubt they were resigning.
I call total BS on that.
I don't believe that for a second.
By the way, we've got crazy Uncle Joe Biden threatening physical violence against a critic.
This was on page six, and He put his fist up at a billionaire by the name of Ackerman after the two got into a testy exchange at a VIP dinner last month.
According to a witness, towards the end of the dinner, tensions rose.
Biden made a fist, held it up to the guy's face, and said, If I could, I'd punch you in the face.
He likes to talk a big game.
See what he's got.
We've got 22 seconds.
United Nations, by the way, blasted Trump and Teresa May for being too tough on terrorists.
That's our other big story today.
And by the way, 58 congressmen are now demanding that Ruth Bader Ginsburg recuse herself from the travel ban case, which they think is right.
And by the way, 63% of Americans have less access to health care under Obamacare.
Keep your doctor, keep your plan, save money.
No.
So my big questions, we'll ask Newt Ingrid next: why didn't Obama report Russia's attempts to influence the election when he knew in August?
Why didn't he do that?
Why did Comey leak government material, a violation of the Records Act?
Why did it not an investigation?
It's a matter of tarmac lynch.
Why is she not being fully investigated for obstruction?
Where's the investigation and the grand jury into Hillary?
Mishandling, destroying classified documents.
Hillary colluding with Russia, Uranium One, money kicked back to her and her foundation.
Where's the investigation into unmasking and the leaking of raw intelligence on Flynn?
And what about Mueller's conflicts hiring Hillary's attorney?
We'll ask Newt about all of this and much more.
Coming up, the Sean Hannity Show, 800-941-Sean is on numbers.
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Chuck, what the Republican proposal does is throw 23 million Americans off of health insurance.
What Harvard University, what a part of Harvard University and the scientists there determined is when you throw 23 million people off of health insurance, people with cancer, people with heart disease, people with diabetes, thousands of people will die.
I wish I didn't have to say it.
This is not me.
This is study after study making this point.
It is common sense.
If you have cancer and your insurance is taken away from you, there is a likelihood you will die and certainly a likelihood that you will become much sicker than you are today.
That's the facts.
Unpleasant, but it's true.
Will the president and will the Republican get enough votes in the Senate to pass it?
I don't think anybody knows that right now.
Maybe Mitch McConnell does.
But right now, at this moment on Monday, we haven't seen the CBO report yet.
We do know that many more people, millions, hundreds of thousands of people will die if this bill passes.
Healthcare is a right, not a privilege, just for those who can afford it.
And especially, Andrea, you and I both will now be deemed to have preexisting conditions.
In Hawaii, they're already over, there are over half a million people with pre-existing conditions.
And under this Senate version, they will probably have to live with yearly limits and lifetime limits.
And that's basically a death sentence for a lot of people with serious illnesses in our country.
Donald Trump is betraying his base and his promises with this bill.
But Anderson, those same people, if they then were the moocher caucus, hey, we're moochers.
We're not going to buy this stuff.
But then if they got in trouble, they slipped on a banana peel, they go into the emergency room, and we all pay for those people.
So one of the great things about Obamacare was it said you just can't be a moocher in the system.
You've got to pay in if you want to pull out.
And so now the Republicans have become the pro-moocher party.
They love the fact that you got a bunch of people that want to be free riders in the system.
I don't understand.
The Republican Party has literally flipped upside down under Trump.
It makes no sense at all.
All right, there you hear it.
The fear-mongering death panels are back.
Well, what is the reality?
Well, you didn't get to keep doctors or plans, and the average family didn't save $2,500 per family per year, and deductibles became so high that even people with insurance couldn't afford it, and young people were forced to buy plans they didn't want or need, and if they didn't buy them, they paid a penalty, and that meant that they were financing the sick and the elderly and the disabled and the uninsured.
And now, Republicans are increasing the spending in terms of Medicare, and you would think that this is the biggest cut you've ever heard in your life.
It's another big lie that the media is telling you.
Former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich has been studying the bill.
We're going to save money, get to a balanced budget, and premiums are going to go down significantly.
Yeah, there will be some people that choose not to get insurance, but that's their choice in America, isn't it?
Well, and that's the biggest part of the Congressional Budget Office score: a decision that there are millions of young people who will decide not to buy insurance.
That gets totally distorted by the Democrats.
And the fact is, when you talk to people who were trapped by Obamacare into, in some cases, $6,000 deductibles, that's not very good insurance.
And for most working Americans, they don't have $6,000 to pay the deductible.
So there's a lot of deliberate fear-mongering going on.
There's just a lot of bad information.
I said to a group yesterday, What percent do you think the House Republican bill cuts Medicaid over 10 years?
And people said, Oh, it goes down 30%, it goes down 50%.
I said, Well, how would you react if I told you it went up 20%?
There's 20% more money being spent on Medicaid after 10 years under the House Republican bill than is being spent this year.
And they were all shocked because none of them information is getting through.
How many more a year?
It's 20% over the next 10 years.
20% more.
Now, I remember when you were Speaker of the House and you guys were trying to rein in spending.
And for example, you're going to increase Medicare every year for seven years, 7% a year.
Every year.
And it was, oh, my God, Republicans are throwing Granny over the cliff.
How is it when you increase spending every year for 10 years, 20 years, that somehow that gets defined by the media as a cut?
But this is why, frankly, I'd like to abolish the Congressional Budget Office.
They take the Democratic promises that are totally unsustainable and they put them up there as though, and they call that the current baseline.
Now, what that is, is that's the promise liberal Democrats have made for the next 10 years.
And then they say, oh, my, the Republicans are below that.
Well, guess what?
The American people voted not to go deeper into debt.
They voted not to raise taxes.
They voted to go back to an economy that grows jobs.
And if you're going to do that, you're not going to throw money away like a Liberal Democrat.
So if you take the Congressional Budget Office numbers, we're always going to look bad because they come into these fancy numbers that are impossible to sustain.
That's why we now have $20 trillion in federal debt.
And I think that we have to become, Republicans have to spend at least three times, and this is a literal number, at least three times as much effort and time on communicating as they do right now because what they're losing is the communications battle.
They come into a system that is crashing.
They come into a system where insurance company after insurance company is leaving.
They come into a system where people are talking about 40% rate increases in one year, and they have almost no communications effort to pin the Democrats.
This is the Democratic Party system.
It is failing totally almost everywhere in the country.
It is leaving people with no choices, and in some cases, it's leaving people with no insurance of any kind.
But do you hear Bernie Sanders or do you hear Elizabeth Warren or Chuck Schumer talk about the disaster that Obamacare is?
No, they voted for it.
We all knew it was going to be a lie.
Keep your doctor plan.
Millions lost their doctors and plans.
Millions lost care because they couldn't afford it.
And of course, the high deductibles that they all had to bear.
And nobody saved money.
On average, over the eight years of Obama, premiums went up $8,000 a year when we were promised a $2,500 deduction per family per year.
I mean, this is all the great narrative lie, though, that the left gets away with.
They never apologize for the promises that Obama made that they voted for, that they echoed, that they regurgitated.
They never said we were wrong, that it didn't work out the way we said.
But they only get away with it because Republicans don't do their homework and don't stand nose to nose and fight.
I mean, you've got to be, Margaret Thatcher once said, first you win the argument, then you win the vote.
You've got to be prepared to go nose to nose with somebody like Schumer or Sanders and force them to pay the cost of the truth.
You know, does Sanders think a $6,000 deductible is reasonable?
I mean, somebody's got to go straight at them like that.
Do they think that having no choices in insurance companies for a huge number of counties is okay?
I mean, that's what Obamacare's gotten us to.
And it's been a disaster for small hospitals.
It's been a disaster for sole practitioner doctors.
It has forced consolidation.
There are tremendous, there's more than a good enough case to be made that the Democrats created a disaster.
They're not even willing to admit it's a disaster, and they're certainly not prepared to try to fix it.
Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly.
You know, I've been going after, you saw what happened with CNN yesterday.
You've been watching all of this fake news.
You've been watching all of the Russia-Trump conspiracy theories.
There's been no evidence.
And I've been making the case, and people on Twitter actually think that I'm knowledgeable that something's coming out.
I said this for a long time.
I mean, all right, let's say that somebody did know that the Russians had information that proved Hillary committed crimes and was lying.
I'd want the American people to know anyway.
But anyway, there's never been any evidence of it.
And my question is, but now it's boomerang back.
Now James Comey may have violated the Records Act.
Loretta Lynch may have obstructed justice.
And we know the evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible.
Hillary committed felonies.
And we know Robert Mueller has massive conflicts and needs to go based on the people that he's putting around him.
And on top of that, we know that Obama knew about, quote, Russia's interference in August and did nothing because he didn't want to interfere with Hillary's victory.
Where do we go from here?
Well, first of all, somebody ought to write a book called Boomerang that talks about how the Democrats tried to make Russia a big issue, and now it's turning out that, in fact, it is their issue, that they're the ones who have the problem, not Trump.
Second, I think Zucker has done such a terrible job at CNN, and this recent series of having to fire people because they're so totally biased.
I think that the people who are in charge of CNN ought to bring in somebody like Michael Mucase, the former Attorney General.
They need to have a thorough house cleaning at the top because the culture at CNN, it's not the decent people, many of whom you and I know personally, who are really pretty good reporters and pretty good anchors.
I actually disagree with that, but let's not get petty here.
I don't think their reporters are good.
I think their reporters have been told to go after Trump, and they do it with a passion.
Well, they do.
But there are also some people over there who are pretty decent.
My only point is that entire culture was shaped from the top, and they ought to bring in somebody at the top to really clean house and rethink it and get them back to being a news organization.
I think in terms of President Obama, I personally believe he's going to have to come in and testify.
I mean, I don't see how he can avoid testifying.
When did he learn the Russians were engaged in these activities?
Who told him?
Who did he turn to for advice?
Why did they keep it from the American people?
Why did they hide it for five months?
When they knew what was going on and they were on top of it, why did they do nothing until Hillary lost?
And then suddenly they decided that there was a problem with Trump.
I mean, there's so much phony stuff there that involves national security, involves the intelligence community, that I think really the Congress has an obligation to get to the bottom of it.
Let's go through when we get back all the list of things, all the list of issues that ought to be investigated.
Former Speaker of the House, New Gingrich, is with us.
His new book, which has now become a bestseller, Understanding Trump, number one on the New York Times list, is out in bookstores everywhere.
All right, as we continue, former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, and his new book, number one on the New York Times bestseller list, Understanding Trump, and congratulations again.
All right, so we've got, let's see, the Espionage Act, and that's with the leaking of information on General Flynn.
The Records Act, and that's Comey releasing information, government information to the New York Times.
Then we've got possible obstruction as it relates to Loretta Lynch and, oh, it's not an investigation, a matter, and let me talk to Bill Clinton on the tarmac and report she might have put the kibosh on any indictment of Hillary.
Then we've got the president knowing as early as August of 2016 of Russian involvement or attempts to be involved in our election.
He did nothing because he wanted Hillary to win.
And then we've got Hillary mishandling top-secret, classified special access program information and destroying it.
Both are felonies.
Well, where do we go with all these investigations?
Well, I think you have to draw a couple of lines.
First of all, on the key questions involving the Russians and President Obama, I think that has to be handled by the Congress, and they should dig into it.
On the way in which Mueller has been hiring people who are hardline Democrats, in some cases actually work for the Clinton Foundation, I think, again, that's a congressional thing.
They don't need to ask him about the investigation itself, but they have every right to ask him, why is he hiring all these people who are anti-Trump?
Why is it such a biased team?
And why should people have any trust in his judgment given what we've seen so far?
That Congress can legitimately do that.
I think in terms of the Attorney General, ideally, that will be dealt with inside justice.
But again, I think the House and Senate Judiciary Committees have a legitimate obligation to monitor that and to make sure it's occurring and to really dig into it.
I mean, the more we've learned about that, including Comey's own testimony, you know, Comey's been remarkable in his testimony.
I mean, he publicly testified that he deliberately leaked something through a Columbia college professor to the New York Times in order to set up a special investigator.
He's now basically admitted that there was pressure put on him by Attorney General Lee Lynch, which to me says that that's clearly interfering and clearly was done for political purposes.
She literally wanted him to use the same language as the Clinton campaign.
All of these things are swirling around, and I think that she could face a serious legal problem.
She certainly faces a serious political problem.
And I think that the Congress's job is to monitor and ride herd on the Justice Department and make sure that it undertakes these investigations in a professional and a thoroughgoing way.
Well, I would like to see Comey on the Records Act, the leaking.
I'd like to see a possible obstruction with Lynch and whether the fix was in and the tarmac issue.
I'd like to see Mueller, why is he hiring Hillary Clinton's lawyer and all these Democratic donors?
I'd like to see answers from Obama on why he didn't do anything about Russia collusion, a real conspiracy here.
I'd like uranium one on Hillary, and I'd like to know why she mishandled classified information and destroyed it.
And why was General Flynn outed, unmasked, and then raw intelligence leaked on this poor guy?
Am I missing anything here?
I think I've got pretty much everything.
I think you've got it down pretty bad.
And I think that now is the time for the country to learn the truth about all of these key issues.
Nothing you said just now is inappropriate, and it is exactly the direction we should be taking.
Yeah, I totally agree.
All right.
Now, are you going anywhere on your book tour?
What are you doing?
No, actually, I'm spending this week.
Well, I'm going to Chicago tomorrow to give a speech.
Otherwise, I'm here until late Friday when Chris and I go to Paris for a few days.
Okay.
Well, I wish I had your life some point in the future.
I might actually go on one of these trips with you.
I'm not too bad for your life.
All right, former Speaker of the House, Newt Kingrich.
His book, Understanding Trump, Amazon.com, Hannity.com, Bookstores Everywhere.
Quick break.
We'll come back.
And when we come back, John McLaughlin, the pollster.
And at the top of the hour, an incredible, really a beat-down takedown by Cheryl Atkinson of the media and how the smear, shady political operatives, fake news are controlling what you see, think, and how you vote.
Straight ahead.
All right, 25 till the top of the hour, 800 941 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Cheryl Atkinson, who is a terrific journalist, lost her position at CBS News.
They wouldn't let her report honestly and accurately on Obama, and she is ripping away at the media today, as we have been doing, and what is now the single biggest informational crisis we've ever had as a country.
Anyway, joining us now is John McLaughlin, McLaughlin and Associates, and a pollster.
And I noticed a piece.
I was actually going to have you and Lunts on together.
He says Trump voters are blaming Paul Ryan for holding up agenda as the speaker finds himself and predecessor John Boehner's position.
Well, I tend to agree with that.
I think that Paul Ryan has been lacking urgency, a sense of urgency, extremely slow.
I mean, we're now being, we're not sure what the Senate's going to do with health care this week before their 4th of July recess.
We're now pushing that they stay away and not go on vacation for their August recess and they get some work done and keep up with the pace of the president.
Your thoughts.
Well, we all agree with that.
And by the way, I'd be more than happy to appear with Frank anytime because I was on your show with Frank last December when Frank was defending that he was on election day.
He was saying Hillary was going to win.
Up until 643 on election night, while the rest of us were saying that Trump was going to win, the exit polls were wrong.
He was sticking by these exit polls that we all knew were wrong in the Trump campaign and on your show often.
He was sticking by those and saying that Hillary was going to be elected president.
And now he's coming around to the Trump voters.
Well, it's June and finally June of his first year in office.
And Frank's finally coming around to say how loyal they are to the president, et cetera.
And now, we all agree that Congress needs to stay in session, get those tax cuts passed, get the economy growing again, and get health care fixed.
We all agree with those things.
I just would say to Frank, is what took you so long?
And it's most often he's been looking at these polls that are skewed by the media or skewed by himself, even during the presidential campaign.
Then candidate Trump had a problem with Frank where he was doing these focus groups after the debates.
And Trump raised the issue that Frank had gone to him looking for work.
And when Trump didn't hire him, Frank got excessively critical.
And we've seen that before.
So, you know, I mean, I have to be kind of jaundiced that Frank's finally coming around to our position.
Well, I mean, I think it's pretty obvious.
You look at, for example, all of these predictions, what, for five now, Donald Trump and these elections, and look at the precarious position that Nancy Pelosi is in.
I mean, she's hanging on by her fingernails for dear life, and more Democrats every day want her to step down because I think they were all convinced that the polls in Georgia 6 were right.
You had told me two weeks out, no way is that seat going to be lost by Karen Handel.
I talked to Newt Gingrich and Matt Towery and Randy Evans.
They all said the same thing, that it wasn't going to happen.
And so I just decided to be quiet about it.
Why call attention to the fact that I knew Handel was going to win?
Well, fortunately, she was able to win.
But in that district, Donald Trump won it, not by a lot, but he won it.
But there were 160,000 Trump voters.
And Karen Handel got 128,000 votes for a decisive win in the smaller turnout.
Our people are solid.
They're loyal.
And that's what Frank finally came around to in his focus groups.
And I've been doing focus groups of Trump voters and polls of Trump voters all year.
And we've seen it where the president has a 90% or higher job approval among them.
And six out of 10 are strongly approved.
And we've seen where the media polls are biased against.
And Frank was citing the CBS polls.
The CBS polls have Republicans under like 30%.
All these media polls, they undercount the number of Republicans to say the president has these lowest numbers in history, lowest approval numbers, and the polls are skewed.
They're wrong.
So, you know, I mean, I saw it a few years ago when I was over in Israel.
Remember when you were calling me in Israel asking who was going to win that election?
We were polling for the prime minister?
Yeah, you told me to shut up.
I'll tell you what you told me.
You told me, shut up.
BB's going to win.
Don't say anything.
That's what you told me.
And by the way, you remind me, just like Joe Lieberman says the same thing.
Look, do you mind?
I know you're supporting me in the race, but every time you mention me, you hurt me.
He goes, just please don't mention me anymore.
I'm like, wow.
I didn't say shut up, but actually.
No, you did say shut up.
You told me to shut up.
Right before the election, Frank came over and attacked the prime minister saying he shouldn't speak to Congress.
Oh, that was dumb.
Are you kidding me?
He flew to Israel.
He never said who paid for him to fly to Israel.
He attacked the prime minister in the Israeli press.
He attacked me personally for working for him.
But he also said he was hurting the president of the United States.
I didn't know you and Frank had this little back and forth.
We got to get you two on the air debating each other.
Well, he actually said the prime minister was hurting relations between the United States and Israel.
And it was like right before our speech to Congress, he was going to hurt our reelection.
That was one of the best speeches ever given to that body, ever, the joint session of Congress.
It was one of the most historic speeches.
And when you think of just the last two years, Sean, when you think of the fact that what history would have been like had not Prime Minister Netanyahu been re-elected and President Obama had gotten his way, and had not Donald Trump beaten Hillary Clinton, think the sad state the world would be in right now.
It's not a good place at all right now, but at least American Israel is stronger against what seems to be more desperate opponents, particularly in terrorism and security.
So when you think how historic those elections were, and if you don't think polling matters, the campaigns matter, the last two years have really showed that these elections have consequences and can really change the direction of history.
Well, I agree with all of that and how wrong the polling is.
And that goes all the way back to 2004.
Did I learn a lesson when John Kerry came in, the exit poll showed he was going to be the next president?
And all we heard on Election Day 2016 was Hillary's going to be the next president.
And they're so wrong.
And you were dealing with some of this going on in Israel, but you picked up a trend very quietly behind the scenes.
That's when you told me to shut up and not mention that things have shifted.
And, you know, I love how everyone tells a talk show host to shut up.
And I have a fiduciary responsibility to my audience, a solemn vow to share what I know.
But for the benefit of the prime minister and the world and him being the only true adult on the stage at the time, I did it.
But, you know, everyone's talking about, well, we're influencing elections.
You were there on the ground in Israel.
Matter of fact, I think you left as soon as it was called for Bibi.
You got right on a plane and got out of there.
The next night, I think.
All right.
So, and my question to you is very simple.
And that is, well, didn't Obama try to influence those elections?
And didn't he use tax dollars to do it if influencing elections of other countries is so bad, right?
He did.
But the American press chooses not to cover it by and large.
You cover it, and you talk about it, where he did use tax dollars.
The Senate had an investigation.
The report was signed by Senators Portman and McCaskill.
Bipartisan Commission found that he used tax dollars to try to influence that election.
But then, worse than that, he had his political offers working on that race in Israel.
They had a super PAC.
You know for a fact, Obama had his political team on the ground in Israel to defeat Prime Minister Netyahoo.
And all the liberals are very, very upset that Russia, who in the past has tried to influence our elections, we've had testimony they did this time and that they'll do it in the future.
Right.
And Obama knew and did nothing.
Right.
No, no, he was actively.
You could say his people were actively working the opposition against us, and they were raising money into a super PAC where they raised and spent more than all the 11 political parties combined.
And it was precisely the super PAC was the Anybody But Bibi super PAC.
It was only to beat Bibi.
And what it was all about was now you can see the, you know, now you can see what it was all about was they were trying to derail the prime minister because he could have, that speech to Congress, and he was the one speaking out against the bad deal with Iran.
So they were trying to eliminate their opposition before he could expose them how bad that deal was with Iran and what's going on in the Middle East totally.
And that's what my whole point is.
These are historic stakes in these elections.
And, you know, when you come over and speak against the Prime Minister Netyahu, to come out, even on election day, to be saying that Donald Trump was going to lose, as people are voting, it's 6.43 at night on the East Coast.
Frank was telling people it's over.
Hillary's going to win.
It wasn't over.
And you think about how close those races were.
I remember like 6 o'clock at night watching or 6.30.
Frank was on Fox News.
I think it was in Times Square, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It was like they were.
Well, I mean, Frank and I disagree, too.
He can't stand that.
He says everybody hates polarization and negative ads, but negative ads work.
Otherwise, people would have stopped using them decades ago.
Well, they seem to let them go when they're Democrats attacking Republicans, but when Republicans fight back, then all of a sudden you're being negative.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, I got to take a quick break here.
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You're more right than anybody else in the media.
Saw the Trump victory coming before others, as I did.
And even Doug Schones saw the possibility, in fairness to him.
Quick break, right back.
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Straight ahead.
Donald Trump.
Just last week, he confirmed to the National Review that he is again considering a run in 2016.
Do it.
Do it.
Look at me.
Do it.
I will personally write you a campaign check now on behalf of this country, which does not want you to be president, but which badly wants you to run.
Donald Trump has been saying that he will run for president as a Republican, which is surprising since I just assumed he was running as a joke.
Is that people think that Donald Trump is a clown?
Donald Trump is a clown.
I mean, does anybody seriously think that Donald Trump is serious about running for president?
Donald Trump.
You know, he's a clown.
Which Republican candidate has the best chance of winning the general election?
Of the declared ones right now, Donald Trump.
President Obama will go down as perhaps the worst president in the history of the United States.
Exclamation point at real Donald Trump.
Well, at real Donald Trump.
At least I will go down as a president.
Basically, this is the beginning of the end for Trump.
It'll be the beginning of the end.
Beginning of the end?
This is probably starting of the beginning of the end for Donald Trump.
Donald, you're not going to be able to insult your way to the presidency.
The strongest person usually isn't the loudest one in the room.
So, right now, we have Hillary's about a 75 or an 80% favorite.
We have different bursts in the forecast.
You can look at Paul has Hillary up by double digits nationally, 12 points, 15 to 38 in four-way race.
Clinton leading in Florida, Clinton leading in North Carolina, Clinton leading in Ohio, Clinton leading in Nevada.
I could go on and on and on.
I continue to believe Mr. Trump will not be president.
And so, right now, Mr. Trump, to answer your call for political honesty, I just want to say you're not going to be president, all right?
It's been fun, it's been great.
I love you, but come on, come on, buddy.
We have a major projection right now.
Donald Trump will take Ohio.
That's in and projects.
Donald Trump will carry the state of Florida.
Huge win for Donald Trump.
Donald Trump, while we project, will win in Kentucky in Indiana with its 11th electoral votes.
Virginia, Florida, Tennessee, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, North Dakota, with its three electoral votes, and South Dakota, Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, the state of Montana, North Carolina, Georgia, Iowa, Utah, Wisconsin, Arizona, Kansas with its six electoral votes, Nebraska with its five electoral votes, and Wyoming with its three electoral votes.
Sorry to keep you waiting, complicated business.
A lot of people have laughed at me over the years.
Now they're not laughing so much, I'll tell you.
All right, that's like my favorite montage, how wrong everybody was that Donald Trump could win the presidency first of the nomination.
John McLaughlin, the pollster, is with us.
It is amazing, right?
Yes.
For those of us, actually, for those of us who worked in the Trump campaign, we thought there was a path to win.
And I tell you, fortunately, Donald Trump did too, because he was his own strategist in many ways, and he worked so hard at the end of that race.
And now, I mean, when you think about it, over a year ago, two-thirds of the American public were unfavorable to this president.
And now in the surveys that we have, he's got a 47 job approval, 51 disapproved.
If he gets that over 50%, they can't stop him.
And what that really means.
And by the way, the generic ballot for Congress is close, 50 to 38%.
They think he's making the economy better.
They think he's keeping his promises, 50% to 40%.
They think that if he keeps his promises, we'll be better 44%.
Only worse is only 32%.
So if he drives that up, it's better.
They see America is stronger, 46% to 34%.
And if he can keep where he is right now, where keeping us more secure, stronger, and then is able to get a tax cut passed where the economy grows and jobs are created, he will be a very successful and popular president.
And that's why the media is going all out to stop him.
And the Democrats are despondent because they've been on this Russia kick that they have no proof to.
They've been trying their best to try to create, throw up some myth that he should be impeached.
And they are so off-message and out of touch.
There is no message.
All it is is stopping Trump conspiracy, black helicopter, no evidence, no collusion, no obstruction, nothing.
John McLaughlin, thank you.
All right, well, we're going to go to the next one.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
As we continue, final hour, Sean Hannity show.
We haven't talked about race.
This was a whitelash.
This was a white lash against a changing country.
It was a white lash against a black president.
Home alone, an angry and isolated president, hunkers down as the Russian investigation swirls around him.
Gordon, you have some incredible reporting, I understand, on President Trump and where his head is at right now following his trip abroad.
Lonely and angry?
He sees him emotionally withdrawing because he doesn't really trust a lot of people around him.
He gains weight, according to these sources.
He doesn't trust people around him.
He's withdrawing.
Not a good picture.
He now lives within himself, which is a dangerous place for him to be.
Is Donald Trump competent to be president?
Let's discuss.
Now he's President Snowflake, okay?
Everything he says, oh, they're mean to me and they don't like me and I just don't understand it and it's not fair.
Wolf, can I say something?
Yes, Wolf.
Go ahead, Dre.
Can I say, I just want to thank you for having me on the ground.
I knew that was coming to you.
Passive to me.
I think you're doing such a great job in general, but especially today.
And it's just an honor to be here with you.
I'm surprised Jeff didn't mention your suit, which is nice fit on you.
It's an oversight, Jeff.
But I want you to know I mentioned your suit beside all the strange third world tinpod dictator elements of this meeting.
If he wants to say that, Barack Obama wants to say whatever.
If George Bush says I looked in his eyes, he took it up on his desk, you all said.
All right, that, of course, all CNN.
And I have been on a Twitter tear the last 24 hours about fake news, about lying, about conspiracy theories.
Frankly, it's been going on now for months, but the latest example of this is, oh, three journalists are leaving CNN after they had to retract an article.
This happened to be about a friend of mine, Anthony Scaramucci.
And I know a little more than the average bear about what really happened behind the scenes.
And Anthony Scaramucci was not taking CNN's crap.
So CNN, and I don't believe for one second, I think they use fake news.
You know, the typical, the typical three stenographers of Jeff Zucker, Humpty Dumpty, I guess the leading stenographer, you know, go out there, they're leaving on their own accord.
They've just retired.
It's not true because they were caught in what is another example of Russian fake news.
And it's only the latest example.
You know, the same network that had the woman that holds up in an ISIS pose, Kathy Griffin, the head of the president of the United States, bloodied and severed.
And, you know, at some point, we've got to ask ourselves here, you know, how much lying is the American people going to take?
I know that trust in the media is now at an all-time low, and it should be.
You've got conspiracy theory TV over at NBC.
Then you've got, you know, Liberal Joe calling the president of the United States a schmuck.
And you have emotional breakdowns between him and his fiancé every day.
It's never stopping.
Then you've got Acosta over at CNN, you know, the hired gun to go out there in spite of all of the false stories of CNN, in spite of the 93% negative CNN coverage against the president, in spite of what James O'Keefe put out today, somebody honestly who works at CNN, and this poor guy may end up getting fired, sadly, because he said the truth, that they're told to go back to Russia, Russia, Russia for money and ratings.
I mean, how many more fake news stories are we going to have to deal with?
Conspiracy theories advanced, are we going to have to deal with?
Because that's what America is now up against.
Now, there is this one guy that appears to be a big deep state supporter out there, and he actually has it on his Twitter page.
His name is Benjamin Witts, and he's been followed a lot recently because he writes out tick, tick, tick, tick, tick just before a big leak comes out from the deep state.
So I sent out a series of questions for him today that I think are very important.
You know, here's issue number one.
Now, the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory is dead.
Let's say a Trump campaign surrogate was told by a Russian they have information that proves Hillary Clinton either A, committed a crime or lied.
Why wouldn't we, the American people, be beneficial, benefit from that story getting out, the truth being told?
Who's so against that?
How is that in any way a crime if somebody says, well, you have information that shows he's a liar, that shows she committed crime, crimes, that shows she deleted top-secret, classified special access program information?
How is that in any way bad for the American people?
Do journalists even care if it's good for the American people?
You know, did James Comey violate the Records Act?
Is there an unholy relationship with him?
And, for example, Robert Mueller?
You know, is intelligence leaking what happened to General Flynn?
Is that a violation of the Espionage Act?
Has anyone ever given an example where WikiLeaks has been wrong in 11 years?
And Julian Assange, the one guy in the world that knows who leaked the DNC emails, why do you not believe him?
Did Loretta Lynch potentially obstruct justice on the tarmac and saying it's not an investigation but a matter?
Did Hillary Clinton, do we know she mishandled and destroyed top secret classified and special access program information?
All felonies.
And anyway, Cheryl Atkinson, she's one of the few people in journalism that's honest.
She actually lost her job at CBS because of it.
And she has a new book out.
It's called The Smear, How Shady Political Operatives and Fake News Control What You See, What You Think, and How You Vote.
How are you?
I'm great.
Thanks, Son.
Do I raise good questions here?
I think you raise a lot of good questions.
And in the big picture, I think if you step back, we see an entirely changed news industry that has almost irreparably blended opinion, politics with traditional news, punditry, and narrative, you know, talking points people with reporters.
And the lines become very blurred.
And in the smear, I sort of talk about the history, how we got here, and the well-funded efforts and corporations and political strategists who are behind all of this.
But I think people, they see something happening.
They probably don't know who all is behind it.
What do you make of CNN being so wrong so often?
And then this poor, honest guy that works for CNN basically saying, yeah, we're told to cover Russia, Russia, Russia because it rates.
And if they're doing it for ratings, it means they're really doing it for money.
You know, I haven't individually investigated cases, but across the board at some of the most formerly reputable news organizations in the country, there have been egregious errors, not just honest mistakes that could happen to anyone, because mistakes can happen, but mistakes as either a result of ideological bias combined with lack of care that wouldn't be allowed in journalism school.
And most often, it seems to me, it's been going, you know, unpunished with no repercussions when something is so terribly damaging but so terribly wrong.
So the instance of CNN is really the first one I can think of where whether they left on their own accord or not, some of the things that isn't there, when I say there's a lot of evidence that Hillary Clinton herself mishandled classified information by putting it in a mom-and-pop shop bathroom closet with an email server that we're told 99% certainty that five foreign intelligence agencies got a hold of, and then we know she destroyed classified information.
Comey himself has admitted both these things.
Isn't that by definition gross negligence, which is what the standard of the law is?
Isn't that, you know, the destruction of such intelligence information a crime?
Isn't mishandling of this information a crime?
And yet nothing happened to her.
Isn't it questionable that Loretta Lynch meets Bill on a tarmac before she's about to decide whether or not Hillary goes to jail or gets indicted?
I think that's a question, but I would say equal of a question is the former FBI director acknowledging under oath at a hearing that Loretta Lynch asked him to mischaracterize the investigation as something else and that he agreed to do it.
He agreed to do it.
But it wasn't true.
So I think his actions, he sort of impeached himself in some respects, but I haven't heard really many calls for him to be investigated.
But if we're picking apart everybody for their ethical lapses and miswording, I certainly think there's plenty of it to go around.
But a lot of the media seems concerned with one aspect or one side of it and not the other.
Let me ask you if you're a reporter and let's say that you know somebody in a campaign, doesn't matter which campaign, and that campaign had contact with Russia or any other state.
It doesn't have to be Russia.
And that state agent told them that they have information that proves that the other candidate, the opposing candidate, is a liar and possibly committed crimes.
Would it be wrong to think or want the American people to see that information?
Or is that seeking truth?
Because I think the American people deserve truth.
I think you have to look at all information like that that comes to you and examine the motivations of those presenting it.
Try to get at the heart of why they'd be presenting it, whether it's truthful and accurate as much as possible.
And report only accordingly when you're able to be satisfied that it's something that should be reported, that's not just a rumor or something being translated.
I guess what I'm saying is the whole collusion narrative is based on the idea that somebody in the Trump campaign at some point, although there's been no evidence, Dianne Feinstein, no evidence.
Joe Manchin, no evidence.
James Clapper, Comey, no evidence.
Brennan, no evidence.
Maxine Waters, no evidence of collusion.
But I'm just, I'm trying to get to the fundamental question here.
If in fact there was somebody in Russia that said that they had information that showed a presidential candidate lied and potentially committed crimes, I would imagine if I'm on that campaign, I'd want that information out tomorrow because I think that benefits the American people and they deserve truth before an election.
Yes, all I'm saying is I certainly wouldn't take that straight from the horse's mouth and report it.
There's a lot more work that happens.
You got to do it.
Exactly.
Agreed.
But on the Russian narrative, I mean, just in the big picture, based on my experience and the things I've researched for the book, it smacks of me, without parsing all the details of what has or hasn't been proven, as a really strong narrative that emerged at a specific point of time that was picked up by a lot of people.
That's a hallmark, the same terminology, the same notions, based, as you said, on little to no public evidence.
And so when people throw a shiny ball and want us to look in one direction, I always ask the question, what is it they don't want us to look at?
And I think it, you know, it smacks of a distraction, a propaganda campaign to distract from something else they did.
Well, it's been fairly successful, hasn't it?
I mean, we've had 11 months of nonstop media coverage of conspiracies without any evidence, true or false?
Yes, I think it's been a very successful propaganda campaign.
That's pretty damning about your profession.
Stay right there.
We'll continue.
Cheryl Atkinson, who herself has gone out on a limb on a lot of stories and lost her position at CBS in part because of it.
She is the host of Sinclair's Full Measure, Sinclair Media, and the author of the brand new book, The Smear, How Shady Political Operatives and Fake News Controls What You See, What You Think, How You Vote.
800-941 Sean is a number.
You want to be a part of the program.
And as we continue with journalist Cheryl Atkinson, she works with Sinclair Media and the Full Measures or television program she hosts.
She has a brand new book, The Smear, How Shady Political Operatives and Fake News Control What You See, What You Think, and How You Vote.
I want you to go a little deeper into how you looked at the shiny object, and instinctively you went in the other direction, and the rest of the media went with the conspiracy theories and 11 months of no evidence reporting.
Well, a couple of things.
I do have some decent sources with track records.
So I listen to the ones with track record for accuracy more than I listen to anonymous sources or things for which there doesn't seem to be evidence.
And even top Obama officials told me they thought there was no evidence of any sort of collusion.
And they also said they didn't see evidence of Russia interfering in our elections, despite what's been widely reported.
So I took all of that into account.
But if you look at the people I did interview for my book who operate in this universe, smear operators and people who put forth narratives, if you believe them, almost nothing you see in your daily life anymore is by accident.
These are narratives that are developed in very sophisticated, well-funded ways by actors behind the scenes through social media, blogs, they bleed their way into the news.
And so you have to start thinking, if that's what they want me to see and think, what is it they don't?
What are the things they don't wish us to see?
What did you see in this case?
Well, in this case, again, based on talking with sources with a good track record and looking at the evidence, it seems to me that the potentially allegedly political unmasking, the supposed incidental surveillance of top political figures in our society as well as ordinary American citizens, the political figures inside the Obama administration who were part of unmasking the names and reviewing the material.
These are Americans accused of having done nothing wrong and whose information was taken without warrant.
This is hugely, to me, serious and an incredible story, if true.
And I wonder, I certainly wonder logically, again, based on some information I have from sources, if there was a lot of concern once Trump was coming in office that he and his people would see this and that this information would become public and be very damaging to those who were involved.
And so they had to build, perhaps, some sort of narrative to justify why there was this collection of the intelligence and the unmasking and also to get a conversation going to make everybody sort of look in the other direction.
Okay, I agree with everything you said, and I believe everybody else in the media fell for it.
But I also, as I said last night in my monologue, I think now things have boomerang back.
They have pushed so hard.
They've been so wrong.
They've gone so extreme that now the issues involving Comey and Mueller's conflicts and the issues involving Loretta Lynch's inappropriate behavior and fundamentally even Hillary's crimes herself are now front and center.
Do you agree that it's boomerang back?
I think there may be a turn.
I like to say the truth finds a way to be told eventually.
It may take a lot of time.
But when things are being put forth in an artificial manner, whether it's an artificial narrative or astroturf reality that's being created, it's very hard to maintain it over time because it's built on something that's not real, unlike the truth.
And I think what you see is when these things start falling in on themselves and contradicting one another, the public confidence falls in what they thought was the truth or what the media was presenting.
And you have this sort of confused situation where we're at now.
I love your counterintuitive way of thinking.
They all go like sheep in one direction, and I'd like to tend to go the other way.
Cheryl Atkinson, thank you.
The book's phenomenal, The Smear, How Shady Political Operatives, Fake News, Control What You See, Think, and How You Vote.
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All right, 25 till the top of the hour, 800-94-1 Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
I want to go back to where I think all of this needs to go, because we've been obviously CNN fake news, NBC fake news, hysteric, you know, let's call the president a schmuck.
Let's advance every bizarre tinfoil hat, black helicopter conspiracy theory we can.
And it goes on 11 months.
And where have we ended?
We've ended with, okay, there's no evidence, according to Comey and Clapper and everybody else, no evidence of any collusion whatsoever.
That includes Admiral Rogers.
That includes Brennan.
That includes Dianne Feinstein.
That includes Manchin.
That includes Warner.
That includes Maxine Waters.
Everybody that has wanted it has not been able to come up with the goods.
But 11 months of conspiracy theories just continue.
And we've got the latest instance where CNN has to put out a correction.
This time about my buddy Anthony Scaramucci.
And then three, then they, you know, they're guilty of fake news.
They have to retract.
And then as far as I'm concerned, I call total BS that these three people resigned.
I don't believe it for a second.
Were they paid?
Were they forced to resign?
Are we now parsing words with these people?
It's pretty unbelievable to me in a variety of ways.
And I just think that we're not being told the truth.
And they even use fake news to cover up fake news.
It's crazy, actually, when you look at it.
Anyway, so I'm just thinking where this is now led is this point, where now everything is wide open.
I think we need an investigation.
Why was General Flynn illegally unmasked?
Why was raw intelligence leaked on him by the deep state?
Who leaked it?
Who committed a violation of the Espionage Act?
That is a felony.
And that ruined his life and ruined his career.
That's issue one.
James Comey.
Let's see, he only did this for Donald Trump.
He didn't do it for Obama or Hillary Clinton.
But he has a meeting with President Trump, gets in a government-owned car using a government computer, writes a government memo.
He doesn't own it by any interpretation or definition of the Records Act.
And then he leaks it to the New York Times.
That is a crime.
Yes, a felony.
Where's the investigation into that?
What about Mueller?
Why is Mueller, the BFF of Comey?
Why is he coaching Comey before he goes to testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee?
I'd like to know the answer to that.
Why is he hiring for the so-called investigation more prosecutors than they got in all the state of Rhode Island, including Hillary's attorney?
And why are they hiring people that donated to Obama and Hillary Clinton and people that have questionable ethics in terms of their past practices?
And why does he not see the conflict of interest?
And why has there already been mission creep, investigative creep?
Why'd they start with Rush-Trump Trump, Russia-Trump collusion?
And that hasn't gotten them any fruit.
Now to justify their existence, well, now we'll move into obstruction.
Well, obstruction of what?
Well, Rosenstein appoints Mueller, and Rosenstein is the one that wrote the two-page letter to fire Comey.
And then Rosenstein says, yeah, we ought to have Mueller investigate obstruction for firing Comey.
Well, that means he should be investigated.
And all of this tells me it just stinks to high heaven with conflicts of interest.
And of course, we've got Loretta Lynch.
You know, we'll call her Loretta.
You know, it's not an investigation.
It's a, what do they call it? A matter.
We'll call it Loretta Matter Lynch.
Okay, what's the matter?
How did she go along with the Clinton talking points?
Why did Comey go along with the talking points?
And then, of course, we've got a big question about Obama.
Okay, Obama knew in July of 2016 that the Russians were attempting to influence the election.
Why did he make a decision to do nothing?
Absolutely nothing.
As a matter of fact, in October, the smoking gun video is him saying, no, no, no, we're good.
Nobody's influencing anything.
We're fine.
And then the only reason this ever became a matter was because Donald Trump won.
And nobody thought Donald Trump was going to win.
So now let's politicize it.
And now let's get America fixated and focused on something that never happened.
And by the way, you know, I keep saying that, and I've said it forever, even if something ever did happen.
What are you talking about?
What collusion?
What, that the Russians likely hacked into Hillary's email server that she put in a mom-and-pop shop bathroom closet?
Well, it was pretty much assumed because we were told with 99% certainty that five foreign intelligence agencies had done so, Russia being probably one of them.
And probably the Iranians another.
And probably the Chinese another.
And I wouldn't be surprised if the North Koreans were another.
Who knows who the rest of them are?
Who knows exactly how many?
And that's the reason you don't put classified top secret special access program information inside a bathroom closet.
And then, of course, we have a real Russia conspiracy.
I guess we have two now, but you got Obama covering for the Russians because he assumed Hillary was going to win, and he's got questions to answer, in my view, under oath.
Why didn't he do anything?
And of course, we've got the deep state.
Nobody wants to pay attention to that.
The selective leaking against the president.
We could talk about that, too.
And then we could look at another big Russia conspiracy, and that's the Iranian One deal.
You see, there's a lot of things now that have boomerang back on the Democrats.
Isn't it nice?
That now their chickens have come home to roost.
Kind of true, isn't it?
Now, let's get to our busy phones here.
Let's say hi to Devonta Devin is in Devon in North Carolina.
What's up, Devin?
How are you?
Good.
How are you, Sean?
I'm good.
What's going on?
Hey, great show.
Thank you.
I just wanted to ask you a question, one that's come to mind for me, and I'm trying to figure it out: is that if you look at the political landscape, you know, you got Hillary and Barack on the left, Ted and his crew on the right.
We believe Trump leans right.
We don't know quite where he is.
But where's Putin in that lineup?
He's got to be over there in Barack's arms or hanging out with the person that didn't do anything with the information they had was Barack Obama.
This is now his Russia collusion conspiracy.
And the only reason he didn't do anything is because he thought Hillary was going to win.
And that's what that October tape, smoking gun tape, shows.
But my real question is: if Putin's over there on the left, why would he be colluding for Trump?
It doesn't make any sense.
You know, I don't know what the Russians were thinking.
And I honestly think that Putin enjoyed being able to school Barack Obama daily and own him and manipulate him and knew he was weak.
And I would probably think in his mind with Hillary and the Russian reset and knowing she was compromised in the Uranium One deal, my intellect tells me they would definitely want Hillary.
That's what I figured he had.
I've never bought into they wanted Trump.
I don't think they did, and I don't think they have a dog in the fight.
And again, there's been no evidence, but we've had testimony from high-ranking intelligence officials that have all said they've done it in the past.
They'll do it in the future.
And yeah, they tried here.
And now we know that Obama knew and did nothing.
Yeah, I would always assume that the other government are trying to get into our system.
That makes sense.
I just don't think they're pulling for Trump.
It doesn't make any sense.
All right, my friend.
Thank you, Devin.
Appreciate it.
Bill in Michigan, Sean Hannity Show.
What's up, Bill?
How are you?
To talk to you.
As yesterday's show, you had Dr. Josh on, and I got to wonder why is he not the Surgeon General for these United States?
What an incredible, common sense, kind of Ross Perot, street common sense kind of guy.
He really is good, isn't he?
I mean, I think the world of him.
I mean, I think Linda in a next life would marry him, but I mean, she loves him more than anybody, and because he's a good guy.
Yeah, in my world, you know, I'm an outer repair facility owner.
We work on mechanical things, you know, water pumps and oil changes and stuff.
And one of the things that I always tell folks is, in my work, when you come in for an oil change or a brake job, you're going to know relatively within 50 to 100 bucks what it's going to cost to fix your car.
In the other world, the collision side of the business, where many people don't know what it costs to bump out a fender and what have you, as long as, and one of the things that occurs is some of these facilities will actually post, we will cover you deductible.
I mean, that is, how is that not fraught in that situation?
And my point about this is when you get a third party involved, and when the final consumer isn't involved in the payment, if there's not a consequence in the consumption of that product, then it doesn't cost anything and the prices start to go up, and pretty soon you don't really know what that product should cost.
That's health care, that's education.
There are so many other ones that you can name where the market is no longer a driving determinant for that product.
And it's a disaster when we deal with that.
I got to tell you something.
There's so many different ways to skin this cat.
And as long as we open the door that at the end of the day, we're going to have health savings accounts and the type of cooperatives that people like Dr. Josh Umber are putting together in Wichita, we're going to change the health care system.
You know, it's just like when we had Speaker Gingrich on later, you know, we're increasing spending 20% in 10 years.
That's not a decrease.
We're not kicking people off.
People are choosing that we're being penalized to get off of health care.
You know, people that, you know, it's illegal to buy even a catastrophic account.
But we're also going to drop premiums by 30%.
People desperately need a reduction in their premiums because they're paying too much for too little.
They can't even afford the deductible to get into the doctor's office.
You couldn't have designed a worse system than Obamacare.
And so while imperfect that this plan is now, it's doing a lot of good things that also pave the way for the better things that I think will come, including Dr. Josh and other things.
Sean, can I ask you one question?
Yeah, what?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Do you, you know, do you have the ear of the movers and shakers?
Do you ever get to sit in front of a president and say to him, do you, what would it be like if you could, if the American president could say to the American people, how much of this monstrosity that we call the federal government, are you personally willing to fund?
If we were to bill you at the end of the month, now can you see what it costs to keep this thing running?
And are we too late as a country for a president to be able to stand up and tell us the truth and be able to say, how much are you willing to pay for this personally?
I think this president's doing all of that.
I mean, I think, you know, every time he bypasses the media, like he went to Iowa last week, he resonates with people.
You can tell he's trying to get the job done.
This is why, you know, we put up on our website, we're listing all of those Congressmen and women that are too lazy to commit to giving up their August recess.
I'm tired of these people not getting their job done.
It frustrates the living daylights out of me.
Anyway, good points.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Bill.
Kathy, Dallas, Texas, next Sean Hannity Show.
How are you, Kathy?
Hi, Sean.
How are you?
I'm good.
What's happening?
So, listen, I'm kind of frustrated.
You know, you had some really excellent points.
You were just talking about Moeller and the mission creep.
And so for me, a lifelong Republican, daughter of a veteran, all of those wonderful things that make me understand why it's important to seek the truth.
I just still feel like as celebratory as we were when Trump won, I don't think he's running the country.
I think the Democrats are still running the country.
And I think it's as evidenced by us, you know, so you have a special prosecutor because they're now going to look for something that's really just a semantic.
You know, is it obstruction?
Is it collusion?
Why are we calling?
And nobody's stopping him.
He's just going on with it.
You know, you look at Berkeley, College, and Evergreen and how these things have just been taken over and it's not being stopped.
Susan Rice's papers that went to the Obama library.
I mean, all of this stuff just keeps happening.
And if in charge of the state.
It's not that he's not in charge, but you've got to understand what they have put in place to stop this president and the nefarious workings behind the scene in the deep state, and that means the weaponizing of our intelligence community, very few, but a few at the top, has been purposely designed, selectively leaking to hurt the president.
Oh, I agree.
I think there's an algorithm in place where they say, okay, if this happens, then we say this.
You know, so like today, and I mean, like the health care bill, before it was even out, there was already shumer out there saying it's going to be terrible.
You know, it's going to kill people and all this other stuff.
And, you know, and gosh, we've only got a week to look at it instead of, you know, you have to pass it to read it.
And They even came after you for no reason.
You know, and it's just, it's a media tied to the deep state.
And I just don't know.
There's no doubt of it.
Listen, I can tell you this.
It's so, you know, I will say this.
I have so many friends that do serve in intelligence and law enforcement that have been in touch with me and frankly begging me to continue because there's information that they have, some of which they share with me, that they are more frustrated than anybody because they're putting their life on the line every day for their country to use the tools that we have given them with the deepest of respect.
And they're doing great work in an evil world, monitoring those people that would do us harm.
Everyone from ISIS to Al-Qaeda to North Korea to Iran and Russia and all these countries and China.
And they're more frustrated than anybody.
And more importantly, they know the corruption that is existing and they want it revealed because they're good people doing honorable work on our behalf.
So I'm very encouraged by the overwhelming majority of these people that do this good intelligence work.
But the few that are weaponizing intelligence, that's a problem.
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
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