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This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
Literally, and quite frankly, Sean is the biggest voice in conservative radio in conservative talk.
I would have to say, even on television, Sean is the man.
And if uh I'm broadcasting a little bit of this on Facebook Live, if I can get my phone set up at the same time.
Those of you may or may not know me, uh, I'm a former Navy SEAL, Federal Air Marshal, security contractor, FBI special agent.
Sean calls me in when he wants to go to the water, when he wants to go to the beach, he calls the frogman in to come here and actually uh take over the literally take over the studio, although I think Lauren uh might uh think otherwise since she's the producer, but we are going to have a fantastic show today.
I want to talk about just a little bit about what I've been doing over the past month, which is I have a Facebook live show I do every night at 9 p.m. every weeknight uh at 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on Facebook Live.
That's on my page, Jonathan T. Gilliam.
Actually, now I'm actually simulcasting it on Twitter as well.
But which is interesting because I'm utilizing two of the biggest liberal platforms in the world to spread the real conservative message.
So what I did was I took my show, I packed up my suburban.
I got my Jack Russell, 17-year-old Jack Russell Rico.
We got in there and we just started driving, and I challenged the people who who watch my show regularly to fund it through a GoFundMe page.
It's GoFund.me forward slash the Experts Road Show.
If you don't know, if you can't remember that, it's on my Twitter and on my Facebook.
So I challenge people to fund me to go out on the road and go to them.
And then I challenge them also further to actually host events.
Look, I'm not a promoter.
I'm not a financier.
I'm just a hard working American that wants to continue to serve and sees where there is a lack of unity in the conservative movement.
And I, in fact, today we're not really even going to use the word conservative as much as we're going to use the word free thinker.
Because that's what I learned.
As I went on this trek around the United States, and I went to Myrtle Beach, I went to Oxford, North Carolina, Norfolk, Virginia, over to Rainow, West Virginia, where my good buddy uh Sean Robson, his cousin, uh uh Dave Robinson, and their friend uh Chuck, Dave and Chuck, both veterans.
I went over there, talked with them, recorded that, and then went all the way over to Arkansas, Salene County, Republican group, then up to Yelville, where I grew up in the Ozarks, and then up to Detroit, met with some incredible people there, and then made my way to Ohio to interview my buddy Drago, who's gonna be on here later on tonight, and then back to New York.
And the amazing thing, folks, this is what I saw.
Listen, if you're switching channels or turning or you're trying to decide what to listen to, listen to this.
If you are A free thinker, forget for now the terms conservative and liberal.
Just forget it for a minute.
If you're a free thinker and you like effective solutions, you need to realize that there are other people across this country that think exactly like you do.
They see what's going on in the media.
They see what's going on with subversion in the country.
They see what's going on with the fake activists and the fake issues of the day.
Issues where, like, for instance, women's rights and the oppression of women.
Not one time in my journey over the past month, and I slept, we re-rigged the truck up where it has a bed in it, and everything.
We I did not meet one female that said she was oppressed.
In fact, they said just the opposite.
They are free.
One of the people that I'm going to have on here in the next hour is Cheryl Constantino.
She's a mayor pro temp from Harper Woods, Michigan.
Her, her daughter, all the people that I met at the uh 13 District Republican Lincoln Day dinner.
It was unbelievable how powerful these women are.
It's fake.
They don't have less rights than me.
They don't have less abilities than I do.
They're equal.
And they're free thinkers.
When I was in North Carolina meeting with Meredith and Robin and Linda and all their friends, the same thing.
When I was in Yelville meeting with my mom's family, all of them, I would say, elders in this country, not just because of their age, but their experience, they said the exact same things.
They were worried about the exact same things.
They saw the exact same propaganda in the media and in politics as everybody else that I came across across when I was driving across this nation.
And it was life-altering for me.
It should make you stop in your tracks.
If you're listening now, I think Sean's got like over a billion listeners now.
Some of you could go to Twitter and follow me.
If you're listening to this and you say on a daily basis, I can't watch this anymore, or they're not telling me the truth, or why is it this way on that quote unquote news channel, and it's different on this one?
Why is it when I click on things, there's no real story there and it's lies?
Why is it that uh Twitter and Facebook are monitoring and censoring conservative, free thinking, effective viewpoints?
Why?
If you keep asking yourself that every day, why, why, why, and you keep saying I'm sick of this, you have to realize two things.
There are literally millions and millions of people that feel the same way you do, they see the truth the way you do, and they are sick and tired of it just like you.
But here is the other thing that profoundly hit me as I was driving around, meeting all these people.
You're not unified.
The left, and and thanks to my good buddy Drago and a little bit of research, the left, that those terms left and right, those aren't new.
Those are terms have been around for thousands of years, all the way back to the Greeks.
The reality is the left and their subversive tactics have been around for thousands of years.
Subversion has been around for thousands of years.
And recently, in recent history, pretty much since the 1840s, somewhere around there, when Marx came up with this nutty idea of communism and some type of utopia, he came up with the cult-like idea that you have to subvert people, that you have to make people fall in order, and before they can get to the point of free thinking, before they get to the point of taking care of one another.
And what's crazy about it, this not even a hundred years before, our own founding fathers had established the perfect utopia here in the United States, a utopia where you're free to be the best, and if you're if you don't want to be the best, nobody's gonna force you to be better.
Nobody's gonna force you to give, but you inspired to give.
They, you know, people want to give because they're free.
So when Marx came up with this crazy idea, and then Lenin and Stalin and all the rest of them, communism started to spread, even though it was nonsense and it fails everywhere, and people are miserable and enslaved.
They were still able to convince the sheep.
And it always starts out just like it did here in the United States.
All is good, and we got a revolt, and let's have a revolution, and uh these people are bad.
Christians are bad.
People that have light skin are bad.
It's like on and on, and we need to, we're separate, we're we're the ones that are downtrodden on, we're minorities, this and that.
Listen, I had an argument with with uh somebody on my Facebook page the other day.
I don't recognize skin color.
I don't recognize nationality.
I recognize good work ethics.
I recognize whether or not you have good morals and values if you're a good person.
If you're not, it has nothing to do with your skin.
It has to do with your personal choice.
But see, these individuals on the left have honed their skills through thousands of years, and since the 1800s, they have been working to subvert the world.
Most people think when the Cold War ended that communism just went away, but nothing could be further from the truth.
In fact, it is stronger now than it's ever been because they have been integrated and secreted themselves into everything.
The educational sector subverted, media subverted, special interest, always been subverted.
Always, that's just actually just one of their creations.
Equal rights, subverted.
Even ESPN, where you go to actually watch, you know, things and relax on your day off.
All of this has been taken over, and big business, let's not forget about that.
Big business has been taken over.
You literally have generals and admirals that are in the Department of Defense that have been trained by subversive enemies in the Democratic Party that get out and take over big business, and guess what?
They do the same thing there.
They just continue to subvert.
It's up to the American people that are free thinkers to unite.
And this was the thing that scared me the most.
You're saying the same thing, you're feeling the same thing, you're seeing the same thing, but you are not unified.
You're not organized.
The left is organized, they're unified.
They're using tactics, techniques, and procedures that literally are thousands of years old.
And it continues to work because they figured out, especially now with social media and television, minimal effort, maximum results.
They don't, it's not like they put out tons and tons of effort.
They put out a little bit of effort all the time, but they're unified.
The free thinkers in this country, aka the conservatives, the people who look for effective solutions, they are not unified.
And they don't even put out minimal effort to get maximum results.
You have to, when you come home in the evenings, don't sit down on your couch, call your friends, go meet, have dinner, talk about this stuff, get other people.
Don't wait for this incredible president Trump to try to get you out into a stadium.
Do it yourself.
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Music This is Jonathan Gillam filling in from a good buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
And all my listeners out there, I'm glad you're tuning in.
I was on Facebook Live just a second ago doing that opening part, and uh the response I got is great.
You all are great.
I hope that what I said hit home.
And right now, joining me, we're gonna have a short segment, we'll go to a commercial, we'll come back, and these these two incredible Americans are gonna be with me for the rest of the hour.
And uh joining me in studio is Scott Eulinger.
We've quick become good friends.
Uh and yes, you can trust a CIA operations officer.
He's a former CIA operations officer and co-host of a podcast called the Station Chief.
And uh you can uh he joins the show today.
But the podcast, where do people find that at, Scott?
Hey there.
Um the uh podcast is you can just go to uh WWTSionchief.com and then it'll switch it to another site, and then uh you can listen to it there.
We record once a week.
So we recorded yesterday talking about the latest in intelligence in the world.
Which is interesting, because also joining me via uh phone.
I I was almost said sat phone.
Try to make it sound better, is Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent and NYPD officer, contributing editor at Conservative Review, and you're all over the place as well.
I've got very pro prolific people here with me, Dan.
Thanks for being with me.
Yeah, man.
Things are busy, a lot going on in the world.
Happy to be here.
Yeah, you could say that again.
Uh so the interesting, you know, now in on the show, you have a Navy SEAL FBI agent, you have a CIA operations officer and station chief, and you have a Secret Service agent and NYPD officer.
I literally think we could take over Washington D. That sounds like a meeting of the penguin catwoman and Mr. Freezer.
I don't know where you came over from that.
It's like an alphabet soup of federal agencies there, right?
USS, CIA, FBI, USMS, sheesh, fill up the whole alphabet.
And we're we're obviously um some of the more brighter ones that have worked in these agencies because we're not long we're no longer with them.
Yeah, I left a long time ago.
Preserve my sanity.
Yeah.
So you know what?
Let's start with that, uh, Dan.
You you know, you have worked, like all three of us have have skirted Washington, D.C. Because whenever you're in any of these agencies, you're gonna deal with the politics of Washington, D.C., period.
And especially from the top down, the political appointees, the deputy directors and executives, it's all politics.
But you were bathed in it, working in and around Obama in the White House.
In retrospect, what was that like?
And did you I know you were working, you were in there for the mission, but were there things that in retrospect, if you would have just been a civilian, you would have been going, what is going on in government?
Yeah, I mean, uh, I the story I tell all the time is you know, these congressional members, they get pins to wear on their lapels around the White House, and we'd go out on some foreign trips and things like that.
We'd have congressional members along with us, and there were a couple who shall remain nameless, and people who would take the pin off, and they'd wait for you to challenge them.
They would only do it so they could tell you who they were.
And I remember going home to my wife being like, Is this for real?
Like, like, do you know who I am?
Like they do that on purpose.
I mean, I don't think people really understand in the listening audience how polluted the DC Cest pool is.
I mean, I know you guys get it, but it's a total disaster full of really, really disingenuous, you know, dishonest people.
And you know, that's why I'm behind Trump and cleaning this swamp out.
Well, so listen, that's a perfect place.
We'll take the break right now.
We're gonna come back.
You're gonna be with me for the rest of the hour, and we are going to go over this some more, definitely.
Dan Bongino.
Dan, what's your Twitter handle?
At the Bongino.
Okay, we'll be right back on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
And this is Jonathan Gillum filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
That was some swanky music coming in there.
I kind of like feel like we're having a round table in like a gambling parlor after listening to that music.
But joining me now in the round table is Dan Bongino.
Uh, Dan Bongino, I'm sure all of you know who he is, former Secret Service Agent, NYPD, contributing editor at Conservative Review, and Scott Eulinger in studio.
He's a former CIA operations officer and co-host of a podcast, the Station Chief.
You can find them both on Twitter.
Uh uh, you can find Scott at the Station Chief and Dan Bongino at Dan Bongino.
Is that what it is?
No, at D. Bonjour.
D. Bongino, gotcha.
And you can find me, Jay Gilliam underscore SEAL, and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam, where I do a show called The Experts every weeknight.
It's about an hour.
And I've had Scott on there.
Dan, I got to get you on there.
It's um uh we we try to avoid talking heads like you can continuously see on television.
And you know, we were having Dan, getting back to what and then I'm gonna bring Scott in.
Getting back to what you were saying before we left about the madness in DC and the politics, we were talking off air about how similar uh media is to politics in the way that I there's just not a lot of people in Washington, DC that are veterans, not a lot of people that are real experts uh in any specific field, really more than less they're attorneys.
And in the media, it's you know, I don't know what they even base it on anymore.
Um what makes people angry?
I don't know.
I can't tell because there's so few actual experts and so many just talking heads uh that it it gets aggravating.
Yeah, I was laughing uh the other day, I was talking to a friend and I was saying how watching media people who have the IQ of like a peanut try to break down Trump's budget and the CBO report.
I I kind of laughed.
I said watching them do financial uh analysis and economics, they can't even do journalism.
And we're expecting them to do finance and economics.
I mean, it's embarrassing.
What what's really insulting is having run for office a few times and haven't dealt with these idiots, is even when you present them with completely contradictory information to the set of what they believe to be facts, they will still deny it.
It's almost like they're like a Jim Jones type mob of liberal buffoons like the Borg in in that Star Trek series or something.
They all follow like this central leader.
It's just ridiculous.
And you know, that's why again I applaud uh you know the Trump administration for taking these people on and not cowtowing to them.
You know what's interesting is those same people you're talking about, they're talking about they'll be talking about health care or they'll turn around, you see me on the next show, they're talking about the war in Syria and how somehow how they have a better plan than somebody like you or Scott Eulinger here, I forgot was also in the Navy.
Scott, you know, what do you say?
You're kind of new to media, but you've been you were in service for a qua quite a long time.
This this whole Russian story must be just I mean, from an investigative standpoint, and you know, CIA operations officers are in their in a way investigators because you you're running sources and trying to find information.
Yep.
This must just spin your head.
Yeah, sure.
The um, you know, I've been dealing with this now doing commentary and all for Fox for quite a while now.
But yeah, the amount of ignorance is astonishing, what you see in the in the regular mainstream media.
You know, and I love how the Democratic Progressives suddenly wake up and suddenly they are concerned about Russia when they've been apologists for Russia going back to around the time I was born.
Yeah, and uh if you look at who, for instance, Hillary Clinton's mentor was Saul Alinsky, a professed communist, um, when you look at Mayor de Blasio's strange, strange background of close ties and actually working for communists, it's just strange.
Or even or even you have the uh the director, former director of the CIA, uh director Brennan, who apparently voted for Gus Hall of the American Communist Party in the first election he could vote he could vote in.
How that guy got the highest security clearance and got into CIA, I can't even begin to guess.
I'm going to have Drago on here in a little bit, who is a Navy SEAL, retired Navy SEAL, but he was a Polish...
I guess you call him defector, or not defector, he wasn't with the Polish government, but he was immigrant immigrant, but he came over during the uh when they were communists and and actually stayed a year almost two years in a uh communist prison or internment camp, as they called it for um propaganda against the communist party.
But he, you know, when he talks about the reality of what he saw and what we see now, it is striking.
It is absolutely striking.
Sure, it's it's true.
I mean, you know, I lived in the former Soviet Union for twelve years.
So I I you know spent half, you know, one third of my life living in the former Soviet Union and seeing what socialism did to whole societies, talking to friends, talking to people who had just seen Utter horrors and including my own uh wife.
My wife is uh Moldovan and you know, some of her experiences with the socialized medical system in Moldova would, you know, it would uh frighten you to the marrow.
Yeah.
Hey Dan, you know, when uh you were in the NYPD and in the Secret Service.
Did you see things?
Uh Scott was running over some stats from Europe and the way that uh the more terrorism amps up over there, it seems like the less they do.
Did you see because I know when I was in the uh FBI and before that I was doing contracting, uh doing threat assessments all over the country for DHS.
You know, the Secret Service is in charge of most uh of these major events for the security of those major events.
Did you s did you ever see any evidence of politics trying to throttle stuff back just strictly for political reasons?
You know, ironically or maybe not ironically, in in my line of work when you're protecting the president, that's one of the few areas where no politics doesn't get involved.
And you know, in the Secret Service, every country you go to, you'll get an intel brief from the chief of station, from the RSO, who's ever available, whoever has the deepest body of knowledge on a specific topic.
So you get a really good flavor for what's going on around the world.
Now I'll never have the body of knowledge um th that your other guest Scott, I believe has on on Russia or the Soviet Union.
I I only spend you know three, four months over there.
But the interesting thing about agents is you get kind of a different flavor for what's going on globally because you visit all these countries.
And it's just it's strange that when the president's own safety is involved, i and I say strange because nobody seems to care about the American citizen.
Politics gets involved all the time.
Like, you know, in the MYPD, God forbid we surveil a mosque, even if someone in that mosque is calling for like death to America.
We can't do that without checking with the mosque first, because you know, innocent American citizens may die.
But I assure you, if God forbid that was a threat to the president of the United States in that mosque, the Secret Service be in there tomorrow and no one would even, you know, bat an eyelash at us.
I mean, we didn't ask permission to do it.
So it really speaks to the bifurcation of the society we have right now with the political elites when their cabooses are on the line and something tragically could happen to them, John.
Nothing you know, no, no big deal, guys, do what you gotta do.
But when it's the American citizen, then all of a sudden it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You know, I know in the FBI you guys I I hear from agents a lot.
It said when they were doing cases that involved potential rat potential radical Islamic terror that they had a f you know to check with a hundred different people before they interviewed someone.
I mean, it's just it's pathetic.
It just again goes to show how society treats the political elites differently than you know the great unwashed, you know, all the rest of us.
Sounds a lot like uh it's basically the same sort of thing where politicians are always uh trying to restrict our second amendment rights, and it's easy for them because they have you know a retinue of ten people around them heavily armed.
You know, they don't have to worry about protecting their family.
Let's play let's play real quick cut five.
Uh this is uh General Kelly, John Kelly, head of uh DHS.
It's everywhere.
It's constant.
Uh we've had four major terrorist attacks in a week on in four different places, obviously Manchester, um uh Egypt, uh Philippines and Indonesia by the same generally the same groups.
It's uh nonstop.
The good news is for us uh in America, we have amazing people protecting us every day.
DHS obviously FBI, uh fighting the uh the away game is DOD, Department of Defense, uh CIA, NSA, working with these incredible allies we have in Europe and around the world.
Uh but it can happen almost here any time.
Uh I was telling Steve on the way in here, if if he knew what I know about terrorism, he'd never leave the house in the morning.
Yeah.
But the good news is again, we're the finest men and women in uniform, out of uniform, uh police officers, local law enforcement, New York City cops uh protecting us.
You know, it's interesting, guys.
When I was uh in the FBI here in New York City, I ran the special events program for a couple of years.
That was really where I think my talents and expertise and experience came together because I was able to do the to actually take a forward step and do things that hadn't been done before in the Bureau in that in in that uh environment, which is uh put them out a little bit further ahead of the curve instead of just being responders to actually act on stuff and have uh command post in Times Square and uh you know big operations orders where everything was coordinated,
and I literally was pulled into my assistant special agent in charge's office at one point, and he says, sit down, of course I knew that wasn't good, and he's like, You're you're doing a great job, and I'm like, okay, where's this going?
I was like, Thank you, he goes, Stop doing it.
You're pissing everybody off.
That's what he said.
And I was that was like an eye opening experience.
He goes, your job is to shake hands, not go out there and uh run a small military unit.
So I was like, okay, well, all right.
Well shake hands then.
But uh but I was shocked by that.
It was especially when you have the head of DHS.
I mean, this wasn't that long ago.
I was in the bureau four years ago.
Right.
So it's not like anything's changed.
Right.
In fact, it's probably gotten better because less people are coming across the border.
Feel good security as opposed to real security.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, i John, you know, these guys, what they I think what we saw on the inside, and I've been making this case for a couple of days since the Manchester attack now.
Well for a long time.
That's just me, but many others as well.
We have to stop being firemen.
I mean, that's what we're doing right now.
We're putting out fires afterwards.
We have to be arsonists.
We have to do what you were trying to do in that case.
We have to go shake the trees, and I call them the two asses.
We have to build out our surveillance, physical surveillance infrastructure.
You know the FBI can't handle the surveillance cases they need to handle.
You know it.
Everybody knows it.
We also have to start developing our sources in these communities and stop being so PC about it.
You know, we don't need to tell someone and get a form filled out and the signature of the president of the United States every time someone goes to interview someone in a in a largely uh you know uh Islamic-based community.
I mean, it's just absurd.
We we have to go start fires and stop putting them out afterwards, or else we're never gonna fix this problem.
Yeah, that's why it wasn't a surprise to me what happened over in Manchester, and we're gonna come back and talk about that a little bit more uh in just a minute.
And also I'm gonna try to use the word bifurcation, which Dan just used a minute ago in his sentence.
I had dictionary.com up.
I cheated.
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Like, you know, besides like all the weird stuff that goes around on the internet, which is, you know, sometimes a great place, but an absolute, you know, underbelly mob pit of horribleness.
Right.
I think like the greatest thing that we can do now is just unite as people, as like fan bases, all of it, you know?
Because I think like there like as much, you know, whatever we say behind people's backs, because the internet can be a little bit ruthless as far as fan bases go, but I think that the greatest thing we can do is just unite and love on each other and like no barriers, no borders.
Like it it we're we all need to just coexist.
True.
Okay, this is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
And that was the only thing that can make you dumber than the view on television.
And you know, again, I've never used the word bifurcation, but I'm gonna think that her brain has been bifurcated, and uh I don't want to love on any of you guys, uh quite uh honestly.
Thank you for that.
And uh and what is this we need to have a united fan base?
What does that mean?
Well, it's it's obviously I mean, uh Katie Perry, uh my apologies to the lady, but the woman does not have two brain cells to rub together at this point, I think.
And uh, you know, the uh uh once in a while you people I'm sure a lot of listeners have have seen, you know, coexist uh bumper stickers on cars and all.
But the problem is when those bumper stickers are put out, there the people who are reading them are not the ones who need to take that message to heart.
I know I have to coexist with my fellow human beings.
In fact, I've been quite good at it, and I'm sh as as we all have.
It's the people who don't read the bumper stickers who have the problem coexisting with the rest of us, and hence we have disasters like Manchester.
Go ahead, Dan.
Dan's speechless.
I was just like, he thought he thumbed it up great.
Listen, liberalism is a bumper sticker.
Liberalism, Thomas Sowell used to talk about this all the time how liberalism is only first order thinking.
And first order thinking is reading the bumper sticker that's just coexisting, going, like, like that sounds really great, man, as you're smoking your doobie and you're pushing the jobs with your hot cocoa.
I mean, that's it.
See, conservatives and libertarians and good Republicans, not the fraudulent rhinos out there, people like us.
We have to think second order and go, okay, what does that mean when I say coexist.
And the dude takes a sickle blade and like lops my head off and then goes after my kids next.
Like, I don't think he's buying into the bumper sticker like I am.
I mean, but that's liberal.
They stop at the first order effects.
They never go past step one ever, you know.
Yeah.
Scott, go ahead.
No, I just couldn't have said that better myself.
That's absolutely true.
You know, uh, and you've been overseas.
Both of you have been overseas.
I lived in the Muslim world for many years.
30 seconds before we gotta go to just tell everybody the reality of over of outside the United States, how how bad and deplorable it's violent it actually is at times.
Right, can be something uh another thing that's unfortunate is that a lot of times the foreign media outlets they receive their feed from liberal news media in the United States.
So oftentimes they have a distorted view of the United States because they're basically watching CNN and taking that to be the gospel if you're in a Romania or maybe even or certainly a Germany with their liberal media.
Same thing with Washington, D.C. in California and Chicago and New York.
Dan, listen, Dan Bongino.
Um, how do they find you on a regular basis, Dan?
Yeah, Bongino.com, B-O-N-G-I-N-O.com.
Thanks a lot.
I appreciate it.
You got it, brother, and uh have a great memorial day in honor of all those that died for our freedom.
And Scott, how do we find you?
Oh, I'm at uh the stationchief.com.
There you go.
And both of them are on Twitter.
You can find them, search their names, uh D. Bongino and the Station Chief on Twitter and Jay Gilliam underscore seal.
We're gonna be back talking to a few great Americans that are on the local level in politics.
We'll be right back.
This is Jonathan Gillum back for the second hour of the Sean Hannity radio show on this Memorial Day weekend as we kick off.
And I would like to say, I know people a lot of times don't get this when I say it, in celebration of those that have fallen.
We need to honor those who have fallen for us.
That's what Memorial Day is.
Memorial Day and Veterans Day, it's completely different, and people get these things confused.
Memorial Day is an honor of those that have fallen in battle, and it's important for us to remember not to necessarily just simply mourn those that have fallen, but to honor them by living free, thinking free, being your best, using your freedom to be your best.
That is what is so awesome about this country and those that defend it, is that they are volunteering their lives and their time for your freedom to defend it.
Now, I want to play real quick before we go to our guests.
A song, just a part of the song.
It's called West Point to Arlington.
West Point to Arlington was co-written by Iraqi war veteran Sean Nicket in memory of his friend Special Forces Captain Andrew Peterson Kill, who lost his life serving Afghanistan on March 11th, 2013.
Sean wrote the song, the Nashville-based nonprofit uh for the Nashville uh-based nonprofit, Operation Song, which empowers both veterans and active duty military to share their stories with through songwriting.
Now, West Point to Arlington is sung by Nashville singer, songwriter Ward Davis, and the song's available on iTunes for download.
All the proceeds from the song go to charity, and you can also listen to it on Hannity.com, but you should also go purchase it.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Driving home from work today.
Tears rolling down my face.
Couldn't help stopping free for your family.
Wouldn't but just last me.
Told me about your fiance.
How proud you were of that greenbury.
Going overseas.
You knew you were hitting in the hill.
But you had a goblin that was bigger than yourself.
Now I'm trying to live a life.
Worthy of your sacrifice to be the father never got to be.
Now your work is done.
Your course all earth is run.
It can be said.
Well done.
Be thou in peace.
Be thou it be.
So that folks, what an incredible song.
That's West Point to Arlington.
I think the the name of the song tells you everything you need to know.
Uh, written by Sean Nickett in memory of his friend Special Forces Captain Andrew Peterson Keel who lost his life serving Afghanistan on March 11th, 2013 for your freedom.
You can get that song on iTunes and all proceeds go to charity.
Go check it out.
Now let's talk about some other great Americans.
Uh two people, so as I was talking about earlier in this show, I spent the last uh first part of the uh third of this month.
I've I left on the 5th of May, went to Myrtle Beach, spoke to the Special Operations Wounded Warrior Dinner, then went to uh Oxford, North Carolina, spoke there, had a town hall meeting, went to Raynell, West Virginia, had another meeting with some guys.
All this was on my Facebook live show, The Experts, that's on every night at uh 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Went from Raynell, West Virginia, excuse me, I went to Norfolk, Virginia, then Rainow, West Virginia, did the Norfolk show in front of the battleship uh the USS Wisconsin, went to Raynel, then from Raynel to Arkansas, was in uh with the Celine County Republican uh party, and which Kerry Murphy,
who's gonna be on here just a minute, is a part of, then went up to Detroit, spoke there to the 13th District uh Republican Party, and then had dinner with Cheryl Constantino, who we're gonna talk to here in a minute, is uh a mayor pro temp uh out of Harper Woods,
Michigan, and her family, and then made my way down to see my good buddy uh Drago, who was going to be on here in the five o'clock hour with Navy SEAL, spent time in a Polish prison fighting for uh freedom, and then made my way back to low uh to uh New York to host this show.
All of that was done on the dime of people going to my GoFundMe page, and all the people that I talked to with the exception of the big speeches, were where you, the American people got out, got people together, and then asked me to come there, and I brought my camera, my stage, my show, and and gave you the mic.
So let's talk about Cheryl Constantino for just a second before we bring her on.
Uh she's a wife and a mother, five terms as mayor pro temp of Harper Woods, just outside of Detroit.
She's got two master's degrees.
She's a U.S. Army veteran, 13 years in the Air Force, enlisted and officer.
She's chairman of the Wayne County Republican Committee, vice chair of the 14th Congressional Republican Committee, teacher in a large urban urban charter school, and a business owner.
I mean, listen, folks, if you think that you're serving and you're not meeting that, then you need to step it up a little bit because that is service to the country.
Now let's talk about Kerry Murphy.
I grew up with Kerry Murphy.
He is uh and is just an amazing, another amazing American, United States Marine Corps sergeant, combat veteran of Desert Shield and Desert Storm, in fourth term of uh Benton City Council in Benton, Arkansas for seven years, works on congressional campaigns, was an alternate delegate to the Republican National Convention,
the first vice chair to the Saline County Republican Committee of Arkansas, small business owner, uh Carrie Kerry Murphy promotions gun and knife shows, puts on gun shows across Arkansas.
Welcome to both of you, Cheryl and Carrie.
I can't think, I mean, literally, I I've been all over this country, and I think you all really set the standard for exceptionalism.
I think all the people that came out and and actually participated were set are setting the example and the standard for uh for unifying.
But thank you both on behalf of all those that serve, and I'm sure that those that have fallen that we honor this weekend, they would say if they were here standing before you, thank you for not wasting your life and actually going above and beyond.
So thank you both.
Cheryl Cheryl, let me just ask you real quick.
Uh I wanted uh we're gonna have to take a break here in a second, but let's start with you, Lady First Carrie.
So when you're both veterans, you both serve in government, uh, but at a lower at a city level, not in the federal level.
What do you think, Cheryl?
And we talked about this on my show where I had you all on last night.
What is the biggest difference between the federal government and uh state and local governments where they actually get stuff done?
Yeah, well, there's uh uh several differences.
First of all, there are just so many layers of the federal government that it makes it difficult to get any changes made, and it just takes longer to make any changes.
Uh the second thing is that the the federal government is just like so far away from the people and their concerns that they don't really feel the effects of what they do.
And where um the local governments, they uh have a quicker response.
The public is more involved, it has easier access to their officials, and it's a lot easier to make changes.
And at the local level, if the local government officials make a change that the people don't like, the people have the option of leaving that local area and going somewhere else if they if they don't like it.
Um and the bigger the level of government, the the more difficult it is, and the more expensive it is to get anything done.
The state uh in Michigan is is trying to take away some local control of zoning.
And the that would leave you know the local municipalities just stuck with whatever decisions they make.
The local municipalities should be allowed to determine what's in the best interest of their own communities.
At times the federal government is is too far reaching and makes decisions that that um have expensive impacts or or has consequences that uh are difficult to manage.
Well, also I think it's it's harder to hide when you're paying closer attention to your political party on than you are the people on the local level.
And Carrie, we talk you you and I talked about this quite a bit when I was there in Arkansas.
I mean, you've worked on bigger campaigns and then you are a city councilman.
I mean how how difficult um or how how noticeable would it be for a city official um to be noticed if they're not doing something right?
And what would happen?
Well you I mean the people in the town, they're always FOI and somebody is trying to find out what's said or what's written.
Uh it's there's so much like she said on the local level.
You go out in town to go buy groceries and you're seeing Joe Blow and he's talking to you about his drainage issue or animal control or hey why you know what's this issue coming up to vote about.
It's uh it's just more personable.
You're you you get the hands on, and you don't have all the red tape.
It is uh you got a committee meeting, you you vote, and you have the mayor.
I mean, it's uh uh so if it comes out of committee and you got your ten people on the council, you get to vote and it's done.
Um and when you get into the state legislatures and the Congress, there's so many of them that everybody has a different idea and an opinion, and they all try to get something for their district.
And that's where I see you know the money aspect up in uh so much for the lobbyists and how much money floats around up there.
You don't have that on the local level.
If you do, somebody's gonna find out or rat you out and uh you're gonna go to jail.
Right.
Let me let's take a break real quick.
I'm gonna so we can come back and have more time, and I want to talk about uh your service, uh both of you, your service to this country and how that has made a difference in your ability to lead in politics because that is rare in Washington, D.C. as well.
So stand by, we'll be right back.
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This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
And uh coming back now and joining me again is Cheryl Constantino, mayor pro uh pro temp of Harper Woods, Michigan, U.S. Army veteran.
Yeah, you're U.S. Air Force veteran, aren't you?
Yeah, pardon?
You're U.S. Air Force or Army?
Army.
I'm an Army veteran.
Yeah, I said Air Force earlier.
I apologize for that.
And Kerry Murphy, he's city council member in Benton, Arkansas.
Also a United States Marine Corps veteran of uh the uh both the Gulf War and the Iraq war.
And so here's what I want to ask you all uh before we left.
How has military service shaped you as a political uh leader?
Because the majority of people that serve in politics these days are not veterans, and they don't know the crisis management, the task organization, the streamlining and the effective thinking, the uh mission uh oriented mindset.
They don't understand and they don't know that.
So what is it that's about that that's helped you um and how do you think it's helped you?
Go ahead, Cheryl.
I think for me, the uh some there's several reasons or several things that being a veteran is helped with.
Um everything ranging from the process of how things are done, but also just the fact that I've seen more of the world than I have just in my own little corner.
I've been to other countries, I've been uh to other states, and I see what's working other places.
I see how repressive it is in other places, and I can take back all the best ideas to my community and uh use that as something to help my resident.
Gotcha.
And Carrie, what about yourself?
Well, I think uh one in the service, honesty, integrity, uh serving other people, you know.
There's I never think of anybody better than myself.
Everybody puts their britches on one leg at a time.
Uh I think being in the service um has taught me to you know to care for other folks.
Uh, because you know, you're always looking out for your buddy next to you in the foxhole.
But when it comes to pressure, I don't let anybody get the pressure on me.
I mean, I've been into combat, and when somebody starts trying to uh strong arm you or something, or they say, Oh, you can't take it, or they're yelling at you.
I just stay calm and collected because there's nothing, you know, uh politics is it's not worse than war.
And uh I just look at it as some people try to play a game with it, and I just don't play.
Let's play cut two because I want to people to hear a complete opposite uh version of the truth from what Cheryl and Carrie are talking.
This is um Hillary Clinton.
Let's hear what she has to say.
You are graduating at a time when there is a full-fledged assault on truth and reason.
Just log on.
Just log on to social media for 10 seconds.
It will hit you right in the face.
People denying science, concocting elaborate, hurtful conspiracy theory theories about child abuse rings operating out of pizza parlors.
Drumming up rampant fear.
So we got to go to a break, so I can't play all that, but the reality is she basically is just saying that um uh we're there's a full-fledged assault on truth and reason.
And that's basically coming from her.
But listen, I guys, I gotta cut it short, unfortunately.
Cheryl Constantino, Carrie Murphy, everybody can find you guys on Twitter.
We'll be right back on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity on the aptly named Sean Hannity Radio Show.
It's his show, and I'm filling in.
Those of you don't know me, well, you should get to know me.
I am a former Navy SEAL, Federal Air Marshal, security contractor, FBI special agent, and now somehow I've gotten into radio.
I guess that comes from being Southern and knowing how to talk and have the gift of gab, but you know, here's what I was thinking.
I know somebody else who's Got the gift of Gab, and he's a truth teller, as am I. And I'm always on his show, which is out of, I believe, Louisiana, the one, the only, the Reverend C. L. Bryant, sir, it is always good to be on your show.
And now it's good to have the tables turned and be hosting you on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
Glad to be with you, Jonathan, as always.
It's great to be with you, my friend.
So you're the creator of the the uh the film Runaway Slave.
Uh, what was that about?
I have not seen that movie.
I'm not gonna lie.
Jonathan, that was an award-winning film.
It won the Crystal Dub Award for uh limited document best uh documentary and limited release, and it was a race to free the the black community from the grips, from the throes of progressive liberalism that has led them to the path that they are on now, a very destructive path that does not allow uh them to enjoy the fruits of liberty in this country.
You know, we were starting to play uh a Hillary Clinton clip uh when we went to break.
Uh let's go ahead and play the rest of that because I think this kind of speaks to what you're talking about exactly uh in describing the Democratic Party and where they've fled to.
This is Hillary Clinton speaking at uh Wesleyan College, I believe.
Let's go ahead.
What's you are graduating at a time when there is a full-fledged assault on truth and reason.
Just log on.
Just log on to social media for 10 seconds.
It will hit you right in the face.
People denying science, concocting elaborate, hurtful conspiracy theories about child abuse rings operating out of pizza parlors, drumming up rampant fear about undocumented immigrants, Muslims, minorities, the poor, turning neighbor against neighbor, and sowing division at a time when we desperately need unity.
Some are even denying we see with our own eyes.
Like the size of crowds.
So I'm sorry I that painfully had to put you through that CL, but uh and and Lauren was correct me.
How do you I'm from the South?
How do you say that?
Yes, please say it the elitist way.
It's Wellesley College.
Well, Wellesley College, well, whatever it is.
Um she still sounded like a fool and uh could have been yeah, bitter.
And uh it's interesting how she went to the pizza parlor issue, which is very odd for all the stuff that has been brought up about that that she would even go there.
Um, but getting back with uh with you, CL, um this is the nonsense that that I'm sure you were speaking about in in that video, but also that I've heard you talk about how they're going around now and systematically destroying memorials that have anything to do with the civil war uh in the South.
That's right, Jonathan, and the one thing that we cannot do is rewrite history.
You can teach history, but you shouldn't rewrite it.
Right.
In fact, we should learn from it.
There is a teachable moment in America at this point in time to show just how victorious our nation has been through it all.
Through the ups, the downs, the dark times, and the certain bright times that this country offer.
And Jonathan, let me say this.
My grandfather told me, because there is certainly an emotional upheaval and a fan that is uh trying to steer up the flames of uh racial emotion in this country.
You see it on college campuses and everywhere you go.
My grandfather told me that he didn't go through all that he went through so that I could be black.
He told me that he went through everything that he went through so that I could be free.
Free to go where he would never go, free to do the things that he would never do, but above all, free to speak my mind.
And Hillary Clinton is a direct assault against those types of principles.
Yeah, I'm I'm reading it while you're talking, I'm reading the headlines and some of these stories that Lauren gave me.
A Minority students feel marginalized by historic buildings imposing masculine panel.
Uh yell to rename Calhoun College after protest.
Here's a good one.
Columbia hosts six multicultural graduation ceremonies, including individual ceremonies for black, Latino, gay, Native American, and Asian.
Um black students at UC Santa Cruz threaten more takeovers.
Um here's an incredible one.
Class focused on great Greco Roman books may be changed after students complain it's too white.
As I was saying to you, my grandfather was illiterate.
Yeah.
He would have loved to have the opportunity to be at a college and admitted into a college.
Here we have students on a college campus taking over the college, demanding something that doesn't that that is already there, that is already theirs.
Uh when we look at the opportunity that these kids, red, yellow, black, and white, have in this country as we face uh uh commemorating our fallen soldiers who paid the price for our liberty when we look at the opportunities that they have today and the foolishness and the the way they allow themselves to be used as pawns by an old white progressive liberal,
George Soros, who bankrolls this foolishness.
It is absurd and it is shameful to watch just how they are allowing themselves to be used by this progressive liberal agenda.
Now, you're you know, we're on the radio, right?
You're not here with me.
You're you're via the telephone, and there's no way to tell the color of your skin versus the color of my skin if nobody's ever uh listened to us or knows who we are.
We can just simply listen to the words that you say and make a judgment on uh your morals and ethics and from the words that you speak.
I that to me is exactly how we should start looking at people.
I can't believe that we've gone back to a point where we were in the 60s, except this time, it's as if these different groups are instigating it themselves based on the color of their skin or their sexuality or their gender when people aren't even making uh anything out of it.
And instead of standing up and saying, I'm free, I can do whatever I want, they get hung up on this.
There is a lack of character, John Jonathan, that uh these young people today, in fact, there may be two generations that are that they're not bringing to the table.
Character means that they're you're judged on what you bring to the table.
But what we find is that there is a regression that is going on in this country.
Where we once heard Dr. King saying that he would want us to reach a point in time in this country where we would want to be judged by the content of character, not by the color of skin.
These days we find the exact opposite.
Right.
Where you have people wanting to be judged by the color of their skin and not by what they bring to the table in their character.
Yeah, I've watched uh you know, I watched CNN before and watched them say literally uh when you have somebody like Charles Blow or any other number of insane idiotic people on their talking, and they point out at least like 30 times in a segment um uh the color of their skin.
And I I just I don't get where the fascination has come where we've bypassed freedom and gotten to this point.
But listen, I know I know that the communist uh hated Martin Luther King for what he stood for.
There's there's no doubt in my mind.
But let's we got about a minute left.
And I want to give you the opportunity to just for a minute forget about all this nonsense and all these race baiters and haters.
Just tell the American people what Memorial Day means to you and what uh it means for those who have given their life uh to this country and to your freedom.
Absolutely, and I want everyone to follow me at Rev, R E V, at Rev C L Bryant, and uh, of course, tune us in throughout the nation on uh our flagship station 710 Keel uh 101 point FM.
Download the free CL Bryant show app.
Jonathan, what it means to me is that we are endowed.
And there are people that have paid a price for the great endowment that we enjoy in this country.
The endowment that is given to us by our creator.
But it comes at a cost.
And this weekend and then on Monday, we celebrate or we don't celebrate what we honor.
We honor the lives.
And yes, we do celebrate their lives.
Sure.
Those paid the ultimate price.
All gave some.
Some gave all.
And let's honor those who gave all so that you and I, two Southern boys can have this conversation, one white, one black in America, in a free America.
And I really thank you and tell my good buddy Sean that I said hello.
I sure will.
I sure will see L and uh thank you again for having me on your show all the time and and letting me uh tell the truth.
CL Bryant, the Reverend C. L. Bryant, creator of the film Runaway Slave and host of the C.L. Bryant Show.
Thank you very much, my friend.
God bless you.
Have a great weekend.
God bless.
This is a Sean Hannity Radio Show.
We'll be right back.
This is Jonathan Gillum.
Filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
Man, I had my mic turned up so much in my ears that gum, I was like about to go blind or blind.
I was about to go deaf.
I don't know.
Somehow the sound was making my eyes go bad.
All right.
Listen, I'm gonna bring on real quick since it's um Memorial Day, and uh so many uh of our great um patriots have fallen in support of freedom.
I figured I'd bring another veteran on to talk about what we can do to help veterans uh stay alive if they're still uh if they're coming home and carrying concealed or if they're in law enforcement.
Um my good buddy Billy Gibbon Gibbons, Gulf War veteran, nine eleven survivor and uh founder of Veterans MFG.
Um Veterans MFG is a Texas based veteran owned and operated manufacturer of ultra-light body armor.
I know I've got I got uh Billy gave me one of them.
It's a shirt, it's got plates in the front and a plate in the back, and everybody was literally drooling over it when I took it with me around the country on my tour.
Uh ultralight body armor and other ballistic products for law enforcement fire departments, EMS and general public.
Welcome, Mr. Gibbons.
Hey, good afternoon, Jonathan.
How are you?
What's going on, buddy?
Was that is that adequate?
Did I explain what you guys do adequately?
You hit it right on the nose.
Uh, we're just a couple of guys, you know, we're family men, and we're here in Texas, and we try to make the best gear we can for American law enforcement and uh first responders and the public.
Now you won the 2017 Veterans Business Battle.
That's Shark Tank for Veterans at Rice University.
Uh, and what it do tell me about how that went.
Oh, that was amazing.
Um yeah, Rice University here, the the Jones School of Business has a really excellent uh MBA program.
And they have a lot of Navy SEALs and a lot of special forces and tier one guys who attend.
And the EO through the Jones School, that's the Enterpreneur uh sorry, entrepreneurship organization, they want to support other other veterans.
So it's a shark tank for veterans.
And uh we took home a great prize.
It was a debt and equity deal that's allowed us to uh inventory and test and R D and all kinds of great stuff.
Now really, really great organization.
The one thing that you let me try on, or actually you uh you provided me with one is a it's a t-shirt, but it has a plate.
How much is that plate weigh?
That plate weighs 17 ounces.
17 ounces, and that goes in the front and in the back of this t-shirt, and it'll stop what rounds.
I should probably know this since you gave it to me.
Yeah, every pistol, um, so every basic run-of-the-mill pistol, all the way up to an FN5.7 in an SS 198.
Now that's a really unique round, but that's a little tiny armor piercing bullet.
Um it will also stop 12 gauge shotguns.
Interesting.
Which is just unheard of.
Yeah.
Well, I tell you, when you're wearing it, you you completely forget that it's on because it's um it is so little, it's literally so light.
And I actually had similar material in my or I have in my backpack when I carry my backpack.
Um but yeah, and and that's an excellent point, Lor Lauren just made is that this is good stuff for kids for their school to put in their backpacks.
Yes.
Absolutely.
That's the number two use for these is actually parents buying them to put them in their kids' backpacks.
Uh it's so late.
You know, it's it's a horrible thing to think about, but it's you know better to have and not need, of course.
Um, and they're certainly affordable.
Hey, look at what look at Manchester.
It's what happens when people aren't aren't ready, aren't aware, and they uh and things happen, they don't have a plan to react.
You should have a plan to react.
Sure.
You know, I mean I'm I'm comfortable carrying pretty much anywhere, but just for defensive purposes, you know, it's a product that's never gonna hurt you, it's only gonna help you.
You can't have an accident with body armor.
And how do they how do they find you?
Tell me that real quick.
Absolutely.
Just go to our website.
It's that'm fg.com.
That's V E T S. M F G dot com, and all of our equipment is available for sale there.
And we're also looking for retailers around the country.
We have about 40.
Uh we're looking for more.
We've actually signed on 40 in just about three months.
You got it.
God bless you, brother.
Thank you for your service, and we'll raise the toes tonight in honor of all those that have uh lost their lives in honor of our freedom, and thank you for continuing to do what you do, Billy.
This is Jonathan Gill, I'm filling in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
We'll be right back.
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This is Jonathan Gillam.
Back in the hot seat for my good buddy Sean Hannity.
And this has been an incredible show.
I mean, when you think about the people that we've talked to, um the people that uh the veterans that we've talked to, I mean so many veterans on this show in various career fields.
You know, um Scott Eulinger, uh Navy veteran, CIA operations officer.
Uh we had uh Cheryl, man, I always Cheryl Constantino, I can always forget her her last name, and she uh she was the or is yeah, an army veteran, yeah, not Air Force.
I'm sorry about that, Cheryl.
No, I love the Air Force.
I'm just kidding.
But uh she is a mayor pro temp at Harper Woods.
My good buddy Carrie Murphy, former Marine, uh and a city uh council member in Benton, Arkansas.
I mean, this is how you continue to serve, folks.
This is how you when you get out of the military for those of you that are having hard times, those of you that uh have lost friends and battle or in training or people that have just died, listen, and it's gotten to you, or you feel like your life isn't worth anything uh now that you're out because your life went from a hundred to zero.
You need to realize you can still serve this country.
You don't have to serve in city council or as a mayor.
I mean, I I've been driving around the country sleeping in the back of my suburban with my dog Rico, meeting people all over the country and making links for unity between these different cities.
I I'm telling you, if you just get in your vehicle and drive for a while, the veterans that are out there that are having a hard time, just do something crazy.
Put a ground pad in your car and a sleeping bag and just leave for a week or a weekend.
Just start driving and don't stop.
You will be amazed at how good you feel to get out and stretch a little bit and leave the apartment or the house behind.
And also, if you just have an inkling to serve, there's other ways.
There's still a fight.
There is a war going on in this country right now that is a subversive war.
We have a domestic enemy that is far more dangerous than anything that uh ISIS or Islam could ever present.
It's communism, it's globalism, it's socialism.
It doesn't matter what you call it, it's all the same.
It's all exactly focused on the exact same thing.
And it's important for you all to realize that you do make a difference.
And we talk about uh especially on this weekend, those that have given their lives in service in military service, those that have fallen.
But we also shouldn't forget on a daily basis the number of police officers that fall, firefighters who give their lives saving people, uh paramedics who are responding and have uh accidents.
We shouldn't forget about uh the experience that uh in the and the expertise that guys like Don Dan Bongino has, who served in the Secret Service protecting the president of the United States, one that most people would not want to protect, and then as an uh and before that is an NYPD officer.
This is service.
That's what this weekend is all about honoring the fallen for their sacrifice, but the rest of the year, you should be honoring them for their sacrifices by living a good life, unifying, living free.
So why don't we do this?
Uh I'm gonna take a call real quick, and then what we're gonna do is we're gonna come back.
Um I'm getting a hold of my buddy Drago.
And uh he's gonna he's gonna call in here in just a few minutes.
He is a former Navy SEAL, was a uh a Polish citizen that immigrated the United States, fleeing from communism and spent almost two years in a communist prison.
Let's see here.
Let's go to um.
Let's take a call.
Uh let me I gotta switch the other computer here.
And do we have anybody on here?
Okay, okay.
Let's go to Jeff in Washington.
Go ahead, Jeff.
I was just wondering what the difference between or the big the big hype about Trump colluding with Russia and then the media colluding with the DNC.
Um you know, you're hearing about you know the the crime that Trump has committed of colluding with Russia to affect the outcome of the election, and the media has been caught colluding with Hillary Clinton to affect the outcome of the election.
And so my I don't know, I guess this whole thing is just getting dragged on, and I don't really see why we're still stuck on this.
Well, you know, because there is No, go ahead.
I don't know.
I I'm just I I'm just a simpleton.
I don't really I mean I listen to Sean every day.
So listen, okay.
First of all, you're not a simpleton.
I'm gonna tell you exactly what you are.
You are somebody who the wool has been pulled uh from away from your eyes, and you're seeing reality because the very question you are asking is the right question.
There was a movie out with Will Smith a while back called IRobot, and he kept trying to find out what was going on, but the robot was programmed where you had to ask the right question.
You Jeff are asking the right question why?
Why is it that it this is a big deal, but that's not a big deal when we look at it and we say there's evidence for this thing over here, but they keep like kind of like um you know in Star Wars, uh, look over there.
Don't look at this.
This isn't real.
And you're seeing it because you're you're an aware truth seeker, and it and the A plus B is not equaling C. Yes.
And it doesn't make sense because all these politicians, like when Hillary Clinton was talking there a minute ago, she was basic she wasn't making sense at all.
I mean, it was it's all made up.
That's what triggered my phone call was uh with hearing that was just uh just all the the bashing of Trump still, and then yet all this that she was, you know, she was found guilty of colluding with the mainstream media to affect the results of the election.
And then this whole conspiracy of Trump is still being dragged on, and here she did her own attempts to affect the outcome of the election, and by using the media and by using you know more domestic and you know, and you're not within the United States, not so foreign like Russia sounds really scary, but colluding with the CNN and the media, that doesn't sound very scary.
But that's even more scary.
It's just the same thing.
It's the same attempt, but yet they're bashing Trump about this, and they have no evidence of it.
And I hear it.
Every single day, every day I listen, I'm just like, they're still talking about this.
They keep talking every day about collusion with the Russians when in fact Hillary Clinton colluded with them when she was in the Department of State, giving them uh a tremendous amount of the uranium mining here inside the United States, but let's play real quick.
Let's put play uh cut three of Hillary Clinton.
And by the way, we were furious about the past presidential election of a man whose presidency would eventually end in disgrace with his impeachment for obstruction of justice.
After fire the person running the investigation into him at the Department of Justice.
But here's what I want you to know.
We got through that tumultuous time.
So interesting there.
Everything that they do, everything that they say, and I'm saying they, because Hillary Clinton's part of the DNC.
Everything they do and say, just like a good communist loyalist, just like Solinsky, her mentor, it's made up of big lies that they tell over and over louder and louder until people just believe it.
Listen, Jeff, thank you very much.
You're not a simpleton, my brother.
You are asking the right questions, as should the rest of America.
This is a Sean Hannity Radio Show.
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Definitely in this world.
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He is an immigrant from Poland who became an American citizen after spending time in a communist prison because he was doing the same thing that he did over here, you rascal.
You were fighting for freedom.
You came over here, became an American citizen, then became a Navy SEAL, and did 20 years of service, retired.
Now you have an incredible family, you have a real job outside of the military, you're still it's a brand new career field for you, and you are kind of a go-to guy in a lot of ways for people when they're also looking for truth uh and about about what's going on with communism and subversion because you've lived it.
Absolutely.
I leave the I live in communist country for over 20 years, and this is why it is so disturbing for me to see what is going on in our country.
You know, what's going on in our country for the last eight years?
That was a communist coup.
We failed because we elected pres uh uh President Trump and America.
You know the president.
I want to play something for you again.
I played it earlier.
It's so ridiculous.
But I think it's uh You will be able to explain the mindset that people like this have.
Um, and and when they are talking about after the Manchester attack on the um the concert where the you know a bunch of young children were killed.
This is Katy Perry, um, probably one of the most uh her parents missionaries.
I don't I don't know what happened to this girl, but she somehow fell off the the good girl wagon.
But let's listen to what she has to say in response to what happened in Manchester.
Go ahead.
And the thing of it is that like, you know, besides like all the weird stuff that goes around on the internet, which is you know, sometimes a great place, but an absolute, you know, underbelly mob pit of horribleness.
Right.
I think like the greatest thing that we can do now is just unite as people, as like fan bases, all of it, you know.
Because I think like there like as much, you know, whatever we say behind people's backs, because the internet can be a little bit ruthless as far as fan bases go, but I think that the greatest thing we can do is just unite and love on each other and like no barriers, no borders, like it it we're we all need to just coexist.
True.
Coexist.
What what does that sound like to you, Drago?
Good God, it sounds to me like a treason, and I tell you why.
After these attacks, after uh if you take a look at Europe, what is going on right now, it is basically Europe is on their knees.
Uh these nasty women is uh now trying to uh uh call us to do the same thing in our country.
You know, we do need to unite.
Yes, we do, but we need to unite against the radical able ideology that is fueling these terror acts, and not to disarm ourselves and uh open our borders and let the same mayhem happen in our country.
See, they just talk about unity for unity's sake.
But what's interesting is at the same time typical for communists.
Right, and at the same time, they're trying to divide other people who are good, hardworking uh uh uh free thinkers.
They don't want that.
Right.
Uh you know, there's a couple of things we need to realize that uh uh first of all, the most important is that uh uh socialism, uh Marxist uh socialism and national socialists, these are ideologies of the left, and they will use and say whatever needs to be said and used to advance their ideology.
Unfortunately, we grew out our own in our home, our own class of communists and Marxists that took over our schools and universities, and this is what is happening right now.
We have people who are unpatriotic who do not care about our country, they care about their ideology first, and their idea is enemy of my enemy is my friend.
So uh please remember that for communism socialists the independent free strong country is their enemy.
So they want to undermine it, and this is why they will side with anybody to disable or uh this mental our country.
Now I harp on media, uh the news media, and I harp on all these different um elements of the family tree of of communism.
But I you know I I'm an open-minded thinker, and I'll look at this stuff from a reality standpoint.
So what what I'm gonna do is when we come back in just a second, we gotta take a heartbreak real quick, Drago, so stay on.
What I want you to talk about are the things, the specific things that people can look for to clue them in on exactly what's happening and who is actually doing it.
So stand by.
This is Sean Hannity Radio Show.
Jonathan T. Gilliam, uh filling in, and you can find me on Twitter, Jay Gilliam underscore seal, and you can see Drago tonight on my Facebook live show, The Experts at 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
And this is Jonathan Gillam filling in for my good buddy Sean Hannity, a true patriot, a true American, somebody who stands up for free speech and for free Americans.
So Drago, you're also uh a free American, you serve this country, you've had brothers fall in battle.
We're gonna get to that in just a in just a second.
But share with the American people what They need to watch out for specific things that they can look for, just not not necessarily to protect themselves, but so they can understand the reality of what's going on.
Absolutely.
There is a couple points that we need to be very sensitive about, is the control of Marxists and socialists of the society.
And we need to look in the healthcare system, the education, where we already lost the battle, not the war, but the bowel, because we are growing our own communists and who terrorize our society on our streets and campuses.
So the schools and healthcare, the control of it, is a big one.
Also the media, not only the social media like Facebook that censors me and so many other patriots who are not subscribing to Marxist ideology, but just regular news like CNN, for example.
I'll tell you what, I haven't seen such depravity, even in communist country.
What CNN is doing isn't is a total fake news, fabricating news, and it is disgusting.
But this is what people need to start to look at find another independent source of information, because uh CNN, NBC, all these other and some of the newspapers, they are just catering to the Marxist ideology and want to our country to dissemble our country.
But there is one more thing, very important.
What people need to look is about the state the organization that is using state entities to intimidate and terrorize political opposition.
Do you remember IRS stalking our uh the the political opponents of Clinton's and Obama and Democratic Party?
Here we go.
This is one of the biggest hallmarks.
So this time was IRS.
What is going to be next?
If they will get the power, I'm sure we'll have an FBI knocking on our doors and other state entities being used to intimidate opposition.
So this is big one.
Uh that's actually very interesting because under Obama administration, apparently intelligence agencies were used for that, including uh the FBI to spy on certain people they didn't agree with.
IRS was utilized specifically to intimidate uh and uh prevent people from becoming uh nonprofits uh if they were conservative.
So this is already absolutely completely evident.
And in fact, what you were just saying about CNN, it's almost as if it is a state-run propaganda network.
It is not different than the what Joseph Gebels was doing in Hitler's Germany.
Yeah.
Uh absolutely it it it some of the stories are fantastic.
It if it's pure fantasy, and with people still subscribe to it, as you ignore CNN and other fake news networks and find different sources of information.
You know, uh, and the other thing is I'm looking on here, not to you know, go after people and specifically a media, but uh I will go after this guy, Phil Mudd.
I'm looking at him right up here on on television.
He is he reminds me when you look at his Wikipedia page or his bio page in government, and you you know this as well as well as I do, people who somehow get silver bullets straight to the top.
And in 10 years, they're doing stuff that would normally pay take somebody 20, 25, 30 years to get to a point where they're advising the White House or something.
In ten years, this guy was in the White House from in the CF from the CIA, I think he was an analyst, not even operations officer.
He uh they just say former CIA counter-terrorism official.
I don't even know what he was, and then he was appointed as a deputy director to the FBI for counter-terrorism without uh ever going to the FBI Academy.
I mean, when you in in communist countries in the way the communists work, is this typical where they just uh the they streamline somebody straight to the top, that way they will do their dirty work?
Yes, uh yes, Jonathan, absolutely.
They groom people for the role.
And this is another thing for our society, for our citizens, look who they are voting for, because uh look at the path of this individual.
If he's getting money, if he's being financed by people like Soros and other communist agents uh around, we they definitely need to be wary of this person or whatever party he belongs to, uh, because the agenda he represents, maybe not the agenda he's presenting to our voters and our citizens, maybe this is the agenda being uh pushed on him by his uh uh paymasters.
But there is another very big hallmark of Marxism, socialism, and communism and also national socialism because please remember national socialism is just one of the flavors of socialism I'm talking about violence if you look at our university we have this little Nazis running around terrorizing speakers terrorizing people with opposing views we have this uh uh uh people also running on our streets and
doing the same thing if you remember right before our elections or during the elections we had these people with some of them were financed and paid by the Marxists and Marxist movement that is very strong right now in our country and they were terrorizing people on the street.
This is one of the hallmarks of communism and socialism, and people need to actually be a little bit more attuned to it, I think.
But most important, Jonathan, most important is we as parents, I am parent, we need to monitor what is being taught in our schools.
We lost the battle, I say, in 1960s, and after the 60s, a lot of those hippies, Marxists, pseudo-Marxists, and pseudo-communists, they went into our educational system, they borrowed themselves there, and this is what they preach to our children.
Some of the schools, they don't look like schools, they look like the indoctrination points for the Marxism and communism.
Let me ask you this, just so people know, what is a bigger threat to this country?
Is it Islam and ISIS and al-Qaeda, or is it the domestic movement of communism in our government and these incompetent or corrupt politicians that are furthering it?
This is my opinion.
You know, I've spent 20 years in military serving our country.
We can deal with military, we can deal with terrorists, but we can't deal with treason and undermining our country from within.
So, definitely the biggest threat right now for us is those people who try to undermine everything our forefathers were building for their communist agenda.
And one thing, one more thing.
Please remember, for those hardcore Marxists and communists, their loyalty is not to our countries, to their ideology.
And this is what brings me to Hillary Clinton.
This woman is like a herpes.
When you think she's gone, she's back again.
And she's added back again.
And somebody is going to finance her again.
And she is put very, dangerous to our country I believe she almost destroyed it.
And evidently there's no cure for the Clintons either because they uh they just seem there's no cure for the Clintons either they just seem to keep being there.
They're just always like I say is they are like herpes.
You can't cure them and they'll be back.
Man, leave it to a team guy to come up with that analogy.
Hey, one other thing real quick.
How do people find you to see what you have to say if they want to reach out to you?
Most likely on the Facebook page is Drago Juran on Facebook.
But Facebook censors me heavily.
So most of the time I can't even answer the messages or can't post.
because every two, three days I post something about communism and I'm my Facebook is shut down.
So but it's a Facebook but also uh I would like to mention I'm sitting on the board of directors of Navy Salesfund.org so you can contact us there it's a 501 501 CP charity dedicated to our our brothers who are still fighting the war for some who are fighting the war in Vietnam before and we have there is no paid position is manned by Navy SEALs only and a hundred percent of the uh donations goes directly to the Navy
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Well drago um you got about we got a a real quick minute what would you like to say uh to uh the men and women that have uh given their lives for freedom uh over the two hundred years that uh this country Has uh has been in existence.
Yeah, uh Jonathan, not only to these men, but also to all citizens of America.
I would like to say thank you and the great gratitude that I'm allowed to leave as a free man.
I came from I escaped from Communist Country, and I was allowed to leave as a free man in this greatest country in the world that is very exceptional.
It is a beacon of freedom to the entire world.
And uh I just hope people don't forget that we are exceptional.
I'm saying we because I am American.
I am not something American, I am not hyphen American.
I am an American and proud.
Awesome.
I can't say anything better than that.
Listen, God bless you, my friend.
Thank you for all that you have done for this country and for the world for the what you did in Poland fighting against communism.
I just can't thank you enough.
I think you're an awesome American.
And hopefully, people will tune in tonight to my Facebook live show, The Experts on Jonathan T. Gilliam, so that they can see and hear you as you speak and the words come out of your mouth.
Part one is tonight, part two is on Monday.
God bless you, my brother.
God bless America and citizens.
I'm Cody.
This is Jonathan Gillam filling in for Sean Hannity.
We're just about to close up on the Memorial Day weekend, and I wanted to share with you a message I checked out with him, make sure it was okay with Cody Fool.
He was uh with uh the Bergdahl platoon when that guy just uh just decided to leave there.
People died trying to find him.
Uh Cody sent me uh a message or called in and left a message on my phone, and I just this just touched me in a way that uh I wanted to share it with the rest of you.
Let's go and play it.
Hey, brother, it's Cody.
Just uh going through my phone, calling on my boys that serve, want to wish you a happy Memorial Day weekend, stay safe.
Uh, I know this weekend means a lot more to some of us than to the rest of the world.
You know, it's not 15% off sale at Target, not Veterans Day, you know how it is.
Have a good weekend, drink a beer for the boys that ain't here, stay safe.
I'm telling you, after I got to listen to that's Cody Fool.
He was in uh Bo Bergdahl's platoon.
It wasn't Bo Bergdahl's platoon, it was a platoon he was in, dirt bag.
And I'm just gonna tell you, you know, Americans.
There's something different about Americans.
Drago became an American.
Drago was a freedom seeker that we had on earlier.
Uh Cody Fool and the rest of his platoon, these people are defenders of freedom.
There is a machine, folks.
There's a machine, it's called freedom.
And there's a certain, there's certain aspects of this machine.
It's like a vehicle when you look at it.
There's the tires, the electrical system, there's carburetor, there's the the joints, there's the interior that where somebody rides and they drive this vehicle.
This vehicle called freedom.
It has a part of it that defends and protects.
It has another part of it that upholds the laws and makes sure that they're enforced.
It has another part of it that takes care of people that responds and makes sure that you're okay or rescues you.
There's all these different aspects to this machine called freedom.
But the most important part of this machine is you.
And if the founding fathers were standing around looking down upon you right now in this room or whatever car that you're in and they were with you, what would they be saying?
These are people that came over and started a country for the sheer fact of escaping tyranny and allowing religious freedom and allowing people to be their best and to be free.
And after spending almost a month on the road, dedicating myself not to spending the money that people donated at my GoFundMe page, but to get out there and use the money wisely so I could go to more and more places, talking to people and getting that message.
And this is the message.
You, the free thinkers of this country, the American free born and those immigrants that have come here and become free, you don't understand unity and you don't understand the enemy that we're fighting.
You are all saying the same thing.
You all have the same belief.
You see what's going on.
You feel it.
But you don't know how to stand together.
And I can only give you this one recommendation.
Start having dialogue.
Eat together.
Have drinks together.
And honor those that have fallen this weekend by doing just that.
I'm Jonathan Gillam, and you can find me every night on Facebook Live at Jonathan T. Gilliam with my show The Experts.
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