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Jan. 11, 2017 - Sean Hannity Show
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Plan To Replace ObamaCare - 1.10
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Why am I being taken out of here?
This man is evil.
You're evil.
Do not vote for Jesus.
Thank you so much for being here for all the people.
We what do we have to do?
Wait a minute, you can't arrest me on what?
Wait a minute!
I'm the one man!
But as Attorney General.
I just wanted to see if they were still listening.
No fascist USA!
No fascist USA!
No!
He's going to be made it!
No, don't make me pay for a fascist USA!
No, don't make me pay for a free speech USA!
No, don't make me pay for your vengeance USA!
No, don't make me pay for a free speech USA!
No, don't make me pay for a free speech USA!
We are on the fence about getting over it.
But I'm not sure.
Does not feel good.
The sole practice regime needs to be stopped before they start.
Use fascism.
Not everything.
No passions.
You attack!
oh You're familiar with Canada.
We are people of America.
You have to please God against great legislation that we keep my company together.
You are like an you are supported by hate groups.
And a hobby private most racist legislative general.
Alright, that from the uh confirmation hearings in the Senate Judiciary earlier today for Senator Jeff Sessions to be the attorney general.
What did I predict yesterday?
I predicted exactly every single solitary argument that the left and liberals would make.
It is so predictable.
It is so mainstream now, it is the only thing in their playbook.
You know, there's one interesting moment there, because a lot of code pink ladies got thrown out of the hearings today, and you got people trying to put on white sheets and acting like they're clan members and they got thrown out of there.
And so on and so forth.
And but that one guy that said, You're evil.
You're evil.
Now I'm gonna the only reason I highlight that is there are Democrats in their heart of hearts.
They think if you are a conservative and you don't believe in bigger government and a cradle to grave mentality and and womb to the tomb that there is evil in you.
And in spite of all of The data that we have from the Jimmy Carter years and the Obama years have been so atrocious for every single demographic group in this country.
Millions more in poverty, food stamps out of work, not buying homes, worse recovery, no growth, lowest labor participation rate.
They can't see that their policies fail.
They will not be able to recognize it.
I mean, that's you're going to see the president tonight.
I'll start the show tonight and I'll say everything.
This is what the president didn't tell you.
And he'll talk about all his economic success and he'll whittle away, well, you know, one statistic, well, private sector jobs, or this sector job, or that sector, or this age group, or that demographic.
It's just all nonsense.
Because the reality is all those numbers I gave to you all last year are as relevant today as ever.
One of the most fascinating fascinating developments since the election are all of these companies that are deciding, you know what?
I like the sound of what Donald Trump is saying.
I like going from one of the highest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world to one of the lowest.
And as a result of that, you know, you see all of these car companies now deciding Ford and uh, I guess what was the other one?
Fiat Chrysler, and of course, Carrier.
And then we told you yesterday the story of this this billionaire guy, what's his name?
Um the Ali uh executive chairman Jack Ma.
He's chatting with Trump how to create one million U.S. jobs over five years.
Trump is talking about allowing corporations to repatriate their money at a low 10% rate, not the 35% rate that we currently have.
You know, you've got you're literally now all everything's on hold.
And it's having an impact in other ways.
Now Mexico is scared to death.
Mexico now has seen three major companies in America now pledge to stop producing their cars, their air conditioners, their products in Mexico, and they're taking those factories and they're going to build in Michigan.
They're going to build in Detroit.
They're going to build in Wisconsin and Ohio and Pennsylvania.
And then if once you open up energy independence on top of that, there's no telling how big this could get.
So now, immediately, immediately, what did Donald Trump say?
I played it last night on TV.
I said, Donald Trump said, Yeah, we're going to appropriate money for the wall, but I asked him during the campaign, I said, Well, you don't expect Mexico to write a check to you.
They're not going to pay for the wall.
He said, No, they're not going to pay for it that way.
They're going to pay for it this way.
And then he talked about renegotiating NAFTA and other trade deals.
And he talked about how much money we would save.
And by incentivizing companies to stay, how that'll increase our tax base money coming into the country, putting more people to work, less people dependent on government, and it just works.
It's called the free market.
So Mexico's new foreign relations secretary, he wants to start talks with Donald Trump immediately about NAFTA and about the wall.
And he wants to talk about the wall because he sees all of these companies now being incentivized with the hope that our federal government is going to be a partner.
You know, the guy from Carrier, I don't think is going to have a problem if there's a bureaucratic regulation that's killing the air conditioning business to get on the phone directly with the president of the United States and say, hey, remember me?
I'm the guy that made a deal with you, and I said I'm not going to send those jobs to Mexico.
I need your help because this is becoming cost prohibitive, what they're doing to the economy.
And then hence jobs will be able to remain here.
You know, Apple announced now they are seeking to expand manufacturing in Arizona.
Good for Arizona.
They deserve it.
You know, you got the you've got all of these federal workers now.
They're preparing for cuts under Trump.
I love Rand Paul's going to join us later on the program.
Rand has produced a budget, unlike I have no idea why he only got 14 of his colleagues to support a deal that would balance the budget in five years, which included, by the way, a freeze on federal spending with some flexibility.
If you want to spend more on defense, you'd have to cut in this area instead.
There's certainly a lot of waste fraud and abuse in government.
Why would Republicans, when they have control of all three branches of government, they have the House, they have the Senate, they have the presidency in the White House.
Why are they over 10 years going to raise the debt by $10 trillion?
I thought they were the party of limited government.
I thought they were the party of balanced budgets.
Now there is a way to pay for infrastructure, but you got to pay for it as you go.
Maybe some of that money comes from energy and the jobs that are created and the taxes that are involved.
Maybe some of that money comes from repatriated money back into the country, and you could take a certain percentage of that and earmark that towards whatever infrastructure spending you want.
But I hope they so dramatically change and shift how we do things in Washington.
It'll be so awesome.
You know, imagine you take any project that you want for infrastructure, and rather than allowing that money to go through Congress in their greedy hands in the bureaucracy.
You know, what if we had an independent board of business people that would prioritize what the projects are in all 50 states, and then from there appropriate the funds and take it away from the federal government, give it directly to the states with a mandate that they complete the task on time under budget, or they don't get any more federal money.
There are ways to incentivize incentivize people to do it well.
Fiat Chrysler announced the huge U.S. investment.
They're pulling out, they're going to invest a billion dollars in two U.S. factories in uh Michigan, and they're going to start producing their pickup trucks and and hot selling SUVs and get out of producing small and mid-sized cars.
Ford is going to move their plant back to the United States that they were sending, but a billion dollars is going to be spent by Fiat Chrysler in Michigan.
Ohio, by the way, is going to get another 2,000 jobs out of this deal.
Here's an interesting side note.
Want to know about the economy, want to know about liberalism and its spectacular failure.
It's not that hard.
There's a story in the fiscal times that says, oh, Chicago and New York, two of the most liberal cities, two of the most big government liberal cities in the country are in the worst financial shape among large U.S. cities.
Now, why is that?
Because they spend more than they take in.
You look at the amount of money as, for example, eight million people living in New York and just the amount of money they get in city taxes and state taxes.
And, you know, I mean, they tax you everywhere but loose in New York.
There's a 40% death tax federally, a 10% death tax at the state of New York.
I think you even have a city death tax.
And you end up with like 40 cents of every dollar that you already paid taxes on the first time.
And government feels they can take their greedy hands and put it in your pocket.
You know, LA, Los Angeles, and other liberal city, they need to borrow millions of dollars to cover all the legal payouts that they're paying.
Well, who can afford this?
Anyway, back to uh the this everything that I predicted.
I'm not as um alarmed as I might have been yesterday.
But after I played Clarence Thomas and after I played Robert Bork and after I played a history of the Democrats playing the race card and watching the hearings today, I mean, it was every single thing that I predicted, and it all happened before your eyes today.
Notice how the Democratic Party, the left wing of this party, is so worked up over the Ku Klux Klan.
Remember last summer, Donald Trump didn't announce David Duke fast enough?
I honestly don't think he knew who David Duke was.
I really believe that.
But and you say, well, why didn't he know?
He should have known.
You know, who follows what these these idiot radicals are saying and doing?
Nobody cares.
That's pretty old news.
David Duke.
Anyway, you got the Code Pink demonstrators showing up at Jeff's Sessions in the confirmation hearings dressed up in white sheets and hoods.
You know, where are all these crusaders for racial tolerance when Democrats made a genuine card-carrying former Klan member, President Pro Tem of the U.S. Senate?
Where were they when Robert KKK Byrd was third in line for the presidency?
I don't remember any protests by Code Pink when that happened.
I don't remember the Reverend Al Sharpton calling it a nightmare when his fellow left wingers made a one-time Klan recruiter, the most powerful Democrat in Congress.
Where was Code Pink this election season when Hillary blurted out that former Klansman Robert Byrd had been her mentor in the U.S. Senate, referring to her first year as a senator in 2001, the same year, by the way, that Robert Byrd blurted out the N-word to Tony Snow on national TV, not once but twice.
Where was the Congressional Black Caucus when that happened?
Where was Jesse Jackson?
Why were they all silent?
Here's a guy that actually prosecuted the Klan successfully on multiple occasions.
Uh, Jeff Sessions, and he doesn't get credit.
Here's a guy that stood up for the Freedom Marchers and Rosa Parks in every instance in his life.
Voting rights going back to the 70s and 80s, and he did so successfully.
And yet he has to answer these asinine questions in this dog and pony show at the Senate Judiciary Committee.
You know, where's the outrage?
You see what I always called selective moral outrage by the Democratic Party.
Anyway, 800-941 Sean is a toe-free telephone number.
All right, so Corey Booker, yes, he makes up little green men in his head.
What is that?
How do you make up a composite of all these different people that you've run into and tell a story with such passion as he has been telling?
Anyway, what we played for you earlier, that was back in February of what, 2016, when Jeff Sessions partnered with Booker to award the Congressional Gold Medal to those that participated in the 65 Voting Rights Act and March from Selma to Montgomery.
And just like he did for the Freedom Riders in 1961, and just like he did for Rosa Parks.
And Booker said, I feel blessed and honored to have partnered with Senator Sessions in being the Senate sponsors of this important award.
This is truly one of my life's greatest moments.
I am humbled to be able to participate here in paying tribute to some of the extraordinary Americans whose footsteps paved the way for me and my generation.
I feel blessed and honored to have partnered with Senator Sessions in being the Senate sponsors of this important award.
Okay.
So what's he gonna say tomorrow to contradict that?
And that's the funny thing.
I mean, you got Pat Lahey and you got Dick Durbin and Dick Durbin worked with Senator Sessions to sort as equal as possible.
There's this disparity in sentencing, crack cocaine versus powder cocaine.
All the experts I remember interviewing at the time just said that crack was that much more insidious and evil, a much harder drug, a much more concentrated level of the drug, but it was disproportionate, and as much as it tended to impact the black community more, and they reduced the sentencing together, and then he went after Jeff Sessions on the fact that he doesn't think people with the three strikes are out law ought to get it these pardons that Obama's been given out.
Somehow that must be racist, and he highlighted one particular individual.
Does it matter that black pastors are in Washington rallying for the attorney general nominee Jeff Sessions?
Apparently not to a lot of people.
You know, when this, when you when we played those protesters earlier and they're Republican, Jeff Sessions is evil.
I really think that Democrats believe that.
I think Democrats think Republicans in many ways are evil.
I'm going to tell you, they're going to have a very hard time coping in the next 200 days.
And what do I mean by that?
What most people haven't figured out yet on the Democratic side is Donald Trump already has planned on day one in the opening hours of his presidency to undo every executive order that is hurting the country, hurting businesses in America, hurting the economy in America, and is going to go after this with a vengeance and with a passion.
He'll spend the first hours of his presidency undoing all of the regulatory, burdensome regulatory, you know, disasters that have been put on the economy since Obama's been the president of the United States.
It's gonna go fast.
And that's probably 75% of the agenda of Obama.
That's you know, there's an upside, I guess, if you rule by executive fiat, you get things done with a stroke of a pen, but there's also a downside.
And the downside is it can be undone just as simply.
You know, Obama's touting his great success.
You know, we he gave us, he doubled the national debt.
He gave us a trillion dollar tax increase in Obamacare over a decade, one trillion dollars.
That'll be the next thing that goes.
By the time you get rid of Obamacare and executive orders, about 85, 90% of the Obama presidency's done, gone, wiped away, off the books.
It's almost as if he never lived there.
Like he never existed.
And the only thing that really remains is this horrific foreign policy, the horrific state of the economy, the judges that he's appointed, and the record debt that he's accumulated.
You know, there's an estimate that is out, Regulation Rodeo, an American action form.
They assessed $870.3 billion, the cost of all the new federal government regulations finalized since Obama took office.
$150 billion our trade deficit last year.
It's interesting to watch Mexico.
They can't get in the negotiating room fast enough to meet Trump, which puts Trump in a in a great position.
Just by pull just by picking up the phone, making phone calls and pressuring companies and incentivizing companies to stay here.
More of an incentivizing through getting rid of regulation and better tax policies for corporations, he's incentivizing them to stay.
I don't think most corporations like the idea of taking their corporations to Mexico.
I think if if they can make a healthy profit here, they don't mind paying their 15% corporate tax rate.
Every one of their employees will pay income taxes.
If you get rid of the regulations that are burdening them with billions of dollars in costs, you take away that.
Now they can make a healthy profit.
And then then they could put Americans back to work.
And we can revitalize cities like Detroit and Milwaukee and Pittsburgh and all these other cities that desperately need help.
And places around Cleveland, another city.
Anyway, you have a $690 billion increase in student debt.
Well, what our government does, I guess we do.
The estimated cost of all the new EPA regulations finalized since Obama took office, $344 billion.
The projected cost of Obama's finalized clean power plan regulations $300 billion.
And this is insane.
The amount of money that we're talking about.
This is real money, millions and billions of dollars that's holding back this economy.
And then Obama literally said, he goes, well, he admitted Sunday that he never imagined Trump would become president because he's out of touch with the American people because he lives in a bubble.
Well, that's that's that's saying a lot.
You know, when you really look at it, because the president's going to speak tonight, and he's not going to give you the statistics.
I won't regurgitate them because I made a promise I'll stop using them, but I did it for effect last year during the election year.
He's not going to tell you all those things.
He's not going to tell you that Iran is better off because you realize since we gave money to Iran, guess what do you think?
What do you think Iran is spending that money on?
Obama's now paid Iran more than $10 billion since 2013.
Well, there's an article out today how Iran is spending the nuclear deal money on troops on missiles and arms for terrorists.
We had to have earlier this week or over the weekend, the country that Obama showered with these billions of dollars in sanctions relief.
Well, they can't resist launching attacks on our warships.
So a U.S. Navy destroyer had to fire three warning shots at four Iranian fast attack vessels after they closed, were closing in at a high rate of speed near the Straits of Hormuz.
Two U.S. defense officials told Reuters.
You may remember back in September, Trump vowed that any Iranian vessel that harasses the U.S. Navy in the Gulf in this particular case will be shot out of the water.
And I bet you the Iranians believe him.
We'll see over time how that unfolds.
And Trump's defense secretary, this will be interesting to watch.
The man that he tapped to be the next Secretary of Defense literally wanted to launch airstrikes against Iran after Iran built missiles that were used in several deadly attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq.
Mad Dog Mattis wanted to do this.
He had a plan to retaliate.
The Obama administration Denied his request.
Things are going to change.
And these countries will learn very quickly that there is a new sheriff in town.
Now, do I think it's his goal to get into foreign conflict?
God, I hope not.
Who wants the foreign conflict?
We know that it's eventually going to be politicized.
But I'm telling you what the left's goal is.
You're hearing it.
You're seeing it at the Jeff Sessions hearings today.
Their goal is to delegitimize Donald Trump.
Their goal is to create a caricature.
Their goal is to create an image.
They're not going to change.
Their talking points are predictable.
Republicans are mean spirited.
Republicans only care about the rich.
They don't care about the poor.
Republicans are racist.
Republicans are sexist.
Republicans are homophobic.
They're Islamic phobic, they're xenophobic.
Every single agenda item of Donald Trump is going to be going to be challenged by the left.
And today is only a small sample of what's to come.
If Trump tries to lower the tax rate, I am concerned about what seems like a willingness to spend too much money without a I I have not seen a how do we pay for the infrastructure for the trillion dollars they're talking about.
There is ways to do it.
Rand Paul, I know, put forward a budget that would be balanced in five years this week.
And that's sort of a knockoff of the penny plan.
He just wants to freeze spending.
In other words, you'd eliminate baseline budgeting.
And you don't have these built-in increases for every government department every year.
And you'd have some flexibility.
Maybe you want to spend more on defense, less on the EPA, more on defense, less on the Interior Department.
So there are ways to do it.
There's certainly a lot of fat to be cut.
But then Republicans, on the other hand, go around and this frustrates the living daylights out of me.
Why did they raise the debt ceiling nearly $10 trillion?
The same amount of debt that Obama took on in the last eight years.
That means it's status quo.
They've got the House, they've got the Senate.
I thought they were the party of limited government balanced budgets.
They better take into consideration that we cannot, as a country as an economy, keep bringing on this level of debt, these high deficits without paying a very dear price.
At some point down the line, interest rates are gonna go up.
They're starting to creep up now.
And that means that we're gonna eventually have to pay for it.
So there's a lot happening here.
I think when Trump goes forward and he appoints a Supreme Court justice, you've never seen demonization like it's coming.
Doesn't matter who he picks.
Whoever he picks, Chuck Schumer has pledged to oppose.
So if he picks from any of his list, they're going to be opposed.
When he puts an originalist on the bench, then we're going to see if Mitch McConnell has a backbone.
Whether or not Mitch McConnell will play by Harry Reid's rules.
How committed Mitch McConnell is.
And the same charges, the same repetitive bumper stickers and slogans will be used in those hearings.
And probably for every other cabinet official that goes before whatever appropriate committee they have to go before.
When Donald Trump wants a tax plan that lowers the corporate tax to 15%, allows a 10% repatriation for trillions overseas, it's going to be Republicans hate the poor and they want to want to help only their buddies that are rich.
And if those people continue this process of what we see unfolding with Fiat Chrysler and Carrier and Ford and all these other companies, and this Alibaba guy who wants to create a million jobs in the U.S. in the next couple of years, well then we're going to see all of those Americans that have been suffering that can't buy cars and homes and houses, and they're going to now have money to see their dreams come to fruition.
That's the whole point.
If these companies don't invest in Detroit, if they don't invest in Milwaukee, if they don't invest in Cleveland, if they don't invest in Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania and Philly, how are you going to save these cities?
What liberals have tried hasn't worked.
The one thing they may think Republicans are evil, but they'll never look at how they have failed.
National debt, 19 trillion, 19.9 trillion.
National debt increase under Obama, 9.3 trillion.
Increase in regulation paperwork, 583 million hours.
Obama administration payment to Iran and the hostage deal, 400 million dollars.
Criminal illegal aliens released by Obama, 86,288 for fiscal year 2013 through 2015.
New federal regulations finalized since Obama took office, 2,988.
Average increase in college tuition costs under Obama, 4,857 bucks at four-year public colleges.
Economic costs of regulations, $873.6 billion since Obama took office.
Billion.
How does business compete with that economic environment?
U.S. global trade deficit, 2016, 732.2 billion.
Increase in student loan debt, as I said, 690 billion.
Manufacturing job losses since the president took office, 301,000.
Bureau of Labor Statistic.
Statistics.
Estimated cost, EPA regulations, $344 billion.
Economic cost regulations, $873.6 billion.
Home ownership rate is down dramatically, lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.
Number of Americans on food stamps under Obama from 31 million to 43.3 million.
I mean, if you want to look at Democrats, how is this fared for the Democratic Party?
Not well.
Since 2009, Obama's in office.
They've lost the presidency, 13 Senate seats, 64 House seats, 13 governorships, and 33 state houses.
Nearly a thousand seats total.
How's that hope and change thing working out for everybody?
Doesn't look too good.
But that's not what you're going to hear at tonight.
You're not going to hear Iran has failed.
Iraq has failed.
Afghanistan has failed.
Benghazi, North Africa's failed.
The Russian reset failed.
Our our relations with China and North Korea has failed.
We've had the worst relationship with Israel in our history.
Where do we have any success?
ISIS is on the move with the money that was provided by pulling out of Iraq early.
And based on your conversation with Donald Trump, where he spans stands on repealing and replacing Obamacare, because my understanding is you don't want to repeal it until exactly that day there is a plan in place to replace it.
And you've said that Donald Trump is with you on that.
Where exactly is he and where are you?
As a physician, as an individual, as a patient, I'm very much opposed to Obamacare.
I think it's been a disaster for our country, and I will vote for a repeal.
I do think, though, that we should vote on replacement the same day.
I'm putting together a bill.
It's virtually completed.
It will be full of the consensus opinions on replacement.
Basically, that we need to ensure the most amount of people at the least amount of cost.
It'll involve three main uh areas for replacement.
One that we legalize the sale of inexpensive insurance so everybody can buy it.
We help people save so they can buy insurance to health savings accounts, and then we help individuals to associate with groups of individuals to health association plans so they can spread their risk and get a cheaper product.
If you put those three market reforms together, as well as some tax changes, I think you can get something that virtually every Republican agrees to, but would also help soften the blow as we go from Obamacare to a more market-oriented uh type of industry again.
All right, that was Senator Rand Paul, hour two of the Sean Hannity show, right down our toll-free telephone number.
You want to be a part of this extravaganza, 800 941 Sean, if you want to join us.
You know, it's somewhat odd and a bit bizarre.
Look, I know there are nine specific plans Republicans have out there, and November 9th came and went a long time ago, and we knew that this was on the Trump agenda was going to be the number one item.
It was the number one pledge of almost every candidate that ran for office in the House and Senate that's Republican.
And uh, I'll echo the words of Senator Rick Samtorum of Pennsylvania, former Senator, who said it I'm stunned that they don't have a consensus plan yet at this point.
Now, Tom Price, who's going to be the Health and Human Services Secretary, he in fact has a plan.
We have interviewed him a number of times on this program about what that plan is.
Donald Trump talked at length with me in interviews about health care savings accounts, portability, taking your insurance, job to job, Co-ops is as Rand Paul was talking about and health care savings accounts.
Um I think all of the different items in the nine separate bills are are pretty much in line, but they need one bill, and the idea that you're gonna maybe within the next year uh come up with a replacement sounds insane to me.
And Senator Rampall of the great state of Kentucky joins us.
How are you, Senator?
Hey, Sean, thanks for having me.
I mean, it's a little bewildering to me that we don't have a consensus plan at this late date.
Why don't we have one?
You know, in some ways we do have a consensus plan.
There are consensus ideas, uh helping individuals to save through health savings accounts, legalizing the form of all insurance sales, including inexpensive plans, and letting people group together in associations.
Those are agreed to by probably ninety-nine point nine percent of Republicans who are elected in Congress.
They just have tactically said, Oh, well, we'll get around to it sometime.
So I've taken the ball here and I've put them together into a bill.
And about an hour ago, apparently the speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, came forward and said we can do them simultaneously.
And that's what I've been saying all along.
We have consensus.
We already have the bills written.
Let's put them together and let's vote on it.
And let's be for something, not just against something.
Let's be for something that will provide insurance to a lot of people at a very inexpensive price.
I have been stopped by more people that obviously know him in news and I I'm supporting I supported Donald Trump in the election, and I I want this country to repeal and replace Obamacare.
There are a lot of people afraid right now that somehow they think they're going to be kicked off their plan this year.
Can you assure them that in fact that's not a part of anybody's strategy?
I know that's a democratic talking point, but that's not going to happen.
No, our goal is to insure more people and at a cheaper price.
Obamacare's disaster is it actually insured less people and it caused the prices to rise, and that's why less people bought it.
So in the individual insurance market, this is about eleven million people, about six percent of the whole insurance market.
That's where the disaster lies.
The premiums are going through the roof, and they made the insurance policies too expensive for young healthy people.
So young healthy people are not buying them because they say, you know what, when we get sick, we can just buy it after we get sick.
That's what Obamacare says.
So Obamacare set up the perfect storm, the perfect nightmare, and as a consequence, some companies like North Carolina Blue Cross lost four hundred million dollars last year in the individual market.
So we've got to stop the bleeding, and the way to do it is to legalize inexpensive insurance.
Let insurance companies sell high deductible plans that are inexpensive, that young people will be attracted to.
Then you get young people into the insurance market, which counterbalances the people who are sick.
Let me explain this market.
I I'm not sure if everybody fully completely understands what you're talking about, some of the more inexpensive plans that are out there.
In other words, they're called catastrophic plans.
Let's say you're young, you're in your twenties or early thirties, you're generally healthy, and you maybe need a check up every year or two years at that point in your life because you have uh you you're just generally healthy, you work out, you're not subject to what we experience here in old age, which is a pain in the neck.
But anyway, but you could buy a catastrophic plan with a fairly high deductible.
That would mean that God forbid you ever got cancer, God forbid you ever had a heart attack, God forbid you had a bad accident, you would be covered.
But you're not paying for services that you're never going to need.
In other words, because of your youth and vitality.
You're exactly right, and you've described them well, Sean.
But what's important to note is that Obamacare made those policies illegal.
In America, it's illegal to buy a catastrophic plan now because Obama said he did not like those plans.
He said they were inadequate, and he thought he knew better than any everyone else.
But when he made those illegal, he greatly increased the price of health insurance for young people.
They quit buying it, and the insurance pools became full of sick people, and then the insurance companies are going bankrupt as a consequence.
So you have to legalize freedom.
You have to let people make their own choices, and you have to give them inexpensive choices.
We can help them save.
We can give them tax credits, we can give them health savings plans.
And the health savings plans, we should let you buy your insurance out of that tax deductible money.
We should also let you pay for, you know, if you need a diet plan or you need an exercise plan, or you want vitamins, or you want some kind of other preventative care.
Senator, you're you're you're calling me fat.
I just heard you say, Hannity, you're fat, you need a diet plan.
Is that what you just say in some people, Sean?
Some people might need this.
But uh we do have a replacement plan.
I'm gonna insist that we vote on it the same day.
There's no reason in the world we cannot have this together by the time we I don't want to delay repeal.
I'm all for repeal immediately.
As soon as we can get to repeal, let's do it.
But we should vote on a replacement plan that involves f freedom and the marketplace and expanding the number of people who can get any of the people.
So there's really those three components that you talk about.
We they have these illegal plans, these catastrophic plans that are relatively inexpensive, but have a high rate of coverage.
Again, for younger people in particular, they would be really, I think appealing because you get a lot of coverage that if God forbid bad things were to happen to you, then you would be covered, but you pay a little bit of a deductible, maybe five, six, seven, eight thousand dollars, but you're you're banking on your own health and your own lifestyle choices and safety, for example.
Uh you don't drive fast, you don't drink and drive certain decisions you make, and then that would be available for anybody.
Health care savings accounts would be where you're putting money that is tax deductible into your own account and it would probably incentivize, I would think, getting a yearly checkup, and then if you don't use that money, that money builds up for future years in case God forbid you get sick or you get cancer or you have a heart attack.
And then we fix one final thing.
Nobody in America should have to be out there buying insurance by themselves.
Everybody in America should be allowed to join with other people to buy their insurance.
So if you're a mom and pop uh pest control business, and there's only two of you, you and your spouse, people live in fear that their spouse or themselves will get cancer or get very sick and then be dropped or their insurance rates will go through the roof.
If you join together with other people in association, and if a hundred thousand people join together in association, you have leverage to demand lower prices for your insurance, and you have leverage that says, you know what, we're not buying insurance if it can cancel us or raise our rates when we get sick.
We want group insurance.
This can all happen voluntarily if you will just let the plans develop by freeing them up from government revenue.
Let me give you an example of this.
As a guy that we interview fairly regularly on the program, I you should bring him into some of these hearings.
His name is Dr. Josh Umber of Atlas MD out of Wichita, Kansas.
And what he's done in his own community is that he and other doctors have created a co-op.
And the co-op is you pay X number of dollars per person per year.
And it's a very very modest rate.
And you get all the care that you need short of surgery or cancer treatment.
In other words, you get all your preventative care, he'll take care of your blood pressure, he'll give you a stress test, he'll do all those things that most of us get.
And then if you have to move on to a specialist, that's where maybe a catastrophic plan would kick in.
But more importantly, he purchases his cooperative purchases directly from the pharmaceutical companies at ridiculously low rates.
He dispenses the medicine directly to his patients.
They save money on pharmaceuticals, they save money on doctors' visits, they have a doctor 24-7 on call available for them, and the patients love it.
He's doing well financially, and it works for that community.
Capitalism and freedom of choice works if we will let it work.
All kinds of innovative solutions would happen.
So you might get a doctor that provides for the first ten thousand dollars worth of care, and then you get a very, very cheap policy above ten thousand.
But realize that ninety-eight percent of the public never spends ten thousand dollars.
Insurance companies make money because you're prepaying for all of this.
So there are all kinds of innovative way innovative ways we can do this, but we got to get Obamacare rules and regulations that prevent innovation from occurring.
We have to get rid of those rules.
Yeah, I gotta tell you.
All right, let me ask you why is why are they talking about raising the debt ceiling nine and a half trillion dollars for the next ten years?
I thought Republicans were in charge of the House and Senate and spending now.
What the hell is going on?
Nothing disappoints me more.
We're in charge of all three branches of government.
We told the country if you put us in charge, you'd have conservative government, and the first thing they did out of the block was they introduced a budget that'll add nine point seven trillion.
Now if they were on the phone here, they'd say, Oh, we had to do that to repeal Obamacare.
Well, my response is why couldn't you have introduced a good budget, one that balances in the near future, and also repeal Obamacare?
So I did just that.
I introduced an amendment yesterday that would have replaced the Republican budget with a conservative budget that freezes spending for five years.
Remember we've talked about the Penny Plan.
This is actually one step less than the Penny Plan, just simply a freeze, and I only got fourteen of my colleagues to support it.
So fourteen.
And maybe not for defense, maybe not For non-discretionary spending, uh, but certainly you can stop the rate of increases or cola increases for some of these programs.
Well, the interesting thing is my budget would have let you cut it anywhere.
You had to you had to end up with an overall freeze, but if you thought military needed to go up fifty billion, you could have gotten rid of the corporate welfare in the Department of Commerce, and then you would have wound up with your freeze by increasing military by fifty billion and decreasing Department of Commerce by fifty billion.
All kinds of ways you can get to a freeze, but only 14 of my colleagues thought that really the debt was important enough to put forward a conservative budget that actually balances.
So they voted for a budget that never balances and will add 9.7 trillion dollars to the debt.
This is the Republican Congress that's doing this.
The Congress that has the power of the purse.
Um I know, for example, um uh look, I know we need infrastructure spending, and I know that the incoming the president elect Donald Trump has talked about a trillion dollars.
I know Democrats are going crazy about it.
To them, it's another another stimulus bill.
Well, I'd like uh if we're gonna spend that money, I think you need a pay as you go system.
And if we're gonna s if I I don't think the country can afford another ten trillion dollars in debt.
Why why only fourteen Republicans?
It's hard to explain, but things get ingrained up here.
The status quo is so strong.
But on infrastructure spending, I have a plan that would get us more money for infrastructure.
I would let all of the American profit, two trillion dollars of American profit overseas, I'd let it come home at five percent, but I'd take that five percent tax and I would put it all into the road fund, and that would be a new source for building roads in our country, and I'd just leave it in place.
Five percent is a low tax.
Right now it's thirty-five percent.
So you could actually lower a tax dramatically, but it's a good thing.
So this will bring back the repatriated money that corpor multinational corporations parked offshore because they would be taxed at such a high rate.
Uh let me ask you this.
You talked to Donald Trump.
He agreed if we repeal, we should replace and do it the same day.
At least you're quoted in uh in an interview as doing that.
Have you talked to him about the need to balance the budget?
Because I talked to him at length during the campaign about it, and if you did, what did he say?
You know, we didn't have that conversation directly.
Uh, but we did talk I have talked about with several of his cabinet members that the only way you can tackle the debt and not explode the debt is you do have to do entitlement reform.
And uh his at least his cabinet members that have come before me have acknowledged that we do have to look into entitlement reform.
I think this is still uh an object for discussion.
It's not as popular, obviously, as other things that uh are gonna get done.
And I think in the first hundred days, you're gonna see regulatory repeal, repeal of regulations that are costing us jobs, and I'm hoping that we will see a tax bill in the first six months, but I'm hoping it does not get lost in the shuffle that the debt is uh a really serious problem for us.
Isn't it pretty despicable what's on display in the United States Senate and the sh Senate Judiciary Committee today?
And all the the same old talking point that if you're a conservative, you've got to be a racist, and this character characterization of uh of uh Jeff Sessions is just it just disgusts me.
It's really insulting.
And the people who know Jeff Sessions, you know, one of his former staffers is now the chief of staff for a congressman.
He's the first African American to be a chief of staff for a Republican in the House.
And uh they asked him about Jeff Sessions, and his points were that he never saw any of that, that he promoted people based on their talent and their merit.
And I think it's just really unfair because nobody in our society wants to be called something you're not, and it is unacceptable to treat people based on their race or to be a racist, and I don't believe Jeff Sessions is.
And I think it's really just sad that he has to spend time uh, you know, defending himself against scurrilous accusations like that.
It's it's pathetic, but it's it's wholly predictable.
Senator Paul, I like everything you're talking about here, and uh I hope in fact that uh we can get this done.
Thanks for being with us.
Thanks, Sean.
All right, eight hundred nine four one Sean, our toll-free telephone number.
If you want to be a part of the program.
Barbara Streisand.
Barbara, thank you for joining us.
What did you think and feel when you watched Merrill Streep last night talk about a man who's going to be our president mocking someone's disability?
I thought that she said what she said beautifully.
And it's easy enough to see the video online of Trump uh mocking, you just showed it, actually, and I completely agree with Merrill.
It was a heartbreaking moment and so beneath the the uh dignity of the presidency, let alone any respectful person.
I mean, what we need more in this world, I think, is kindness and common decency and um what he did and how he reacts and how he needs he has the need to uh talk back and insult anybody who doesn't agree with him and that's pretty disgraceful.
What do you make of the uh the critique that uh Meryl Streep made last night that you can push this thing and it becomes the norm.
That it's like my Daniel Patrick Money in the Senator once said you dec you dec did define deviancy downward this kind of behavior becomes the normal political conversation.
Well, that's what it does.
I mean, what's the signal to little children, you know, who watch television and see this is the behavior of the soon-to-be president of the United States, you know?
Little girls were heartbroken when Hillary didn't get to be president.
So I think it's what they see.
Children will listen.
I sang that in a song once, you know, and they will see.
they will learn and um and um you know I'm in the middle of having my teeth cleaned Chris you caught me out of disappearance when Donald Trump needed to find an attorney general all he had to do was look to his alt right Jeff Sessions was a U.S. attorney in Alabama when then President Ronald Reagan nominated him for the federal court but the appointment broke down at Sessions 1986 confirmation hearing when allegations over
his alleged racial remarks took center stage.
Jeff Sessions is a man ahead of his time he was alt right when it was still just called racism.
Thomas Figures, a black former assistant U.S. attorney in Alabama testified sessions called him boy joked about the Ku Klux Klan.
And warned him about the way he spoke to white people.
That was that but who is Jeff Sessions now?
Session is still a racist Jeff Session has shown both in his career as a U.S. attorney but also in his career as a United States Senator has been a hostility to the enforcement of civil rights particularly in the area of voting rights.
He's also opposed to same-sex marriage, Roe v.
Wade, equal pay, the Violence Against Women Act, and universal background checks for gun purchases.
Plus, he's voted to defund Planned Parenthood.
Jeff Sessions for Attorney General, even for Trump.
This guy's extreme.
All right, so there you have Barbra Streisand.
Of course, she's going to defend Meryl Streep.
Of course, that is the top priority, the liberal left, and then the Democratic.
Oh, Jeff Sessions is so extreme.
extreme.
Are they going to condemn this MTV callback?
culture writer joking that Sessions had a st had stolen his Asian American granddaughter from Toys R Us.
You know a lot happened today I mean you've got people dressed up in white sheets and it just it's right out of the old style Democratic playbook.
Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic and any other phobia you can talk about anyway let's get to our phones as we say hi to Lewis the Liberal in Houston, Texas KTRH What's up Lewis the Liberal?
How are you, sir?
Hey Mr Hanby, how you doing long time no here from Yeah what's going on?
It's been a long time, Lewis what's going on with you?
You have a good year last year.
I haven't heard from you in at least a year.
Oh it's been probably about four years.
It's it's it's been let's put it this way the last four or five years have been rough for me.
So for me be able to be just in one position, one spot to listen to know what challenge you're gonna be on and listen to you and call in has been practically impossible.
Well let me ask you a question.
What's going on in your life?
Can I help you out?
What is the matter Oh Mr Hannity uh no no no no no no no no no economic my issues were economic and I have to let me put it this way.
After two thousand if you recall back in two thousand uh eight we talked and you were trying to get me to go on to uh Michael Berry's show etc.
Well what happened was due to the due to our scheduling confusion I wasn't able to be on a show.
However right after two thousand in two thousand nine because of the hope and change that President Obama promised in the hopes of keeping my house in my cause I had to change where I was working at so I ended up having to start traveling across the country to keep my to keep the just to keep the just to keep things in in perspective.
Listen, life is life is very, very hard.
You would not believe how many conversations I have with all these young kids that work for me uh about saving their money and being responsible and uh and no understanding that money equals freedom in their life and you gotta take advantage of uh the opportunities that come your way.
And not spend recklessly.
So anyway, well, listen, I well no, so basically what this boiled down to is that um I was working mostly local jobs here, but to his possible I work in the oil and gas industry.
So you can do the math.
Instead of doing a lot of work around here, I had to go on the road and start finding work because everyone was holding on their money to determine which way the pendulum was gonna swing with regard to his energy policies.
And we've seen which way they went.
So I had to stay on the road for about the last six, seven, eight years.
Listen, that makes it really hard.
I'm not disagreeing at all.
And but the here's the good news.
Because of the way the country voted, it would have been very different if Hillary won.
Uh, I'm pretty confident that energy independence is a big part of the Trump agenda.
I think a lot of this can be done by removing executive orders in terms of fracking and to terms of coal mining in terms of drilling.
And I think if we make a commitment, whether or not the Saudis try to try to bid down the price of a barrel of oil to drive us out of business, if we're still committed to energy independence, ultimately this is gonna be a win-win where millions of Americans like yourself, you know, it's a lifeblood of our economy, you're gonna be producing more oil, more energy than we've ever produced in our entire lives, and we'll probably have more natural gas available for our Western European allies and more.
So just hang in there, help is on the way, and I I admire the fact that okay, opportunities went away for you in Houston, but that didn't stop you.
It made life harder, it made life more difficult, but you didn't whine and and moan and complain, and you got out there and you found work wherever it was.
I admire your your sticktuitiveness.
I admire your strength.
I admire your your ability to survive.
This is this world is hard.
This world is tough.
This world will knock you down to the ground.
And as Rocky said to his son in in Balboa, it's not how hard you get hit, it's how you you get hit and you move forward.
This is not an easy thing, life.
I'll go one step further.
My belief is that it's not how...
Life...
Life...
Life is easy.
People make it hard.
It is hard to do.
I disagree.
I actually think life is hard.
I think life is hard.
I don't think life is easy.
I think life is difficult.
If you ever read the book, The Roadless Travel, it starts out with that line.
Life is difficult.
Once you recognize that truth, it does make it easier because you're not expecting everything to get handed to you.
Well, maybe you're absolutely right.
But by that same token, like I said, I just I believe this leads me into my uh reason why I call concerning uh Senator Sessions.
Um Senator Sessions, I don't believe he's racist.
And the reason I don't believe he's racist is simple.
He believes in the rule of law, as we all should as Americans.
And I say that because if you were if I cannot sit up here and say, well, you know what?
I know I was going 35 in a 30 mile an hour uh zone here, uh, Mr. Officer, but guess what?
I'm late for work.
So that should be an excuse for you to go ahead and not give me a ticket.
I can't say that because it's I broke the law.
So for you to say as an example for the immigration is what they were talking about with regard to Ms. Uh Senator Sessions, that uh he would want to deport all of these people and he would want to uh stop all of their services and such.
Well, the whole thing is this it's not a problem for you being here, it's a problem for the way you came in.
You broke the law.
If I were I I could not go into Spain and just sneak in and stay there, and they not have an issue with me being there.
The same thing with Germany, the same and and and the same thing with our Mexican government, our Mexican neighbors.
Same thing with Canada.
It is interesting.
I gotta let you go because I got a lot of people waiting on the line here.
But you know, all this talk, well, Donald Trump asked for appropriations to build the wall.
Last night on TV I played the cut where I asked one of the many times I would ask Donald Trump, sort of the Trump Town Hall archives of the Sean Hannity show.
And I said, Well, you know they're not gonna write you a check.
And he said, Yeah, I know that, but when we negotiate new trade deals and we do A, B and C, they're gonna more than pay for that wall because we'll have much better deals.
Anyway, now now Mexicans government announced today that they want to begin negotiations with Trump as soon as possible on trade immigration and the construction of Trump's border wall.
And the thud you probably heard is poor Vicente Fox keeling over over the holidays, said we're not paying for that blanking wall.
Anyway, Mexico's new foreign relations secretary said that his country isn't just willing to negotiate changes to NAFTA, it wants to start talks as soon as possible.
And he said there's an enormous uncertainty.
What's happening is Donald Trump by telling the business community that he is gonna create a better business environment is resulting in all of these companies now willing to stay here.
Anyway, I digress.
Uh back to our busy telephones.
Lewis the Liberal, thank you, my friend.
Let's go to who's there.
Uh Nina is in Sarasota, Florida.
How are you, Nina?
Glad you called.
Hi, how are you doing, Sean?
Happy New Year.
Happy New Year to you.
I'm calling the um in regards to Jeff Sashion confirmation hearing.
And uh you just touched on it briefly before the prior caller with the MTV news tweet that went out.
Um this was just so I was just taking back.
Because here we have these people standing outside.
We have a confirmation hearing going on for Jeff Session, and they are accusing him of being a racist.
And then you have this guy from MTV News, and nobody watches NTV news.
I know that.
But you know who does?
Our children do, unfortunately.
And they're the ones that are most impressionable.
They're the ones that are picking up on all this racism and this anti-Trump stuff, and they're the future of our of our of our country.
And I just I find this extremely appalling that this man, um, what's his name?
Ari Madison could actually put out a tweet with a picture of Mr. Jeff Session sitting there with his innocent, beautiful grandbaby, regardless of what her race is, and to call her a prop in his second post.
First he said return editors or Oz, but then he called her a prop, that he was using her as a prop.
I mean, can you imagine only only a liberal can do this?
If we us conservatives, we would never say something like that.
We would never be allowed to say something like that.
You know, and it's funny when you say this because liberals have this so-called monopoly on compassion.
Um, if if Jeff Sessions had ever said it, I mean, it would be remarkable the amount of coverage it would have.
But this happens all the time.
Just just think back, Joe Biden.
I mean, here's the first African American.
It's it's storybook, man.
He's he's clean.
He's articulate sort of mainstream African American.
Yeah, who is articulate and bright and clean, nice looking guy.
I mean, it's that's a storybook.
Articulate, bright, clean, nice looking guy.
This is like a storybook, fantasy.
Wow.
Is that not racist?
I mean, it it just I I can't imagine a Republican saying that ever and getting away with it.
And this is the party that claims that that the masses love them, that they are the party of compassion, and conservatives are racist and sexist and homophobic, Islamophobic and xenophobic.
It's all not true.
It's a myth, it's a lie, it's a talking point, and it's used every election year.
Anyway, John in upstate New York, John Hi, how are you?
Glad you called.
Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
How are you doing today?
I'm good.
How are you?
I'm great, thanks.
Hey, Sean, I uh enjoyed hearing you debate Chris Hahn yesterday.
Uh actually I've enjoyed seeing him uh over the years on Fox uh as I went to college with Chris and uh debated him quite extensively in uh Professor Goldstein's class.
So we had a uh a couple political science classes together in Albany.
And uh it's interesting to me that all these years later, you know, over twenty-five years later, he's still just as misguided as he was then, even if he is still just as passionate, but it's unbelievable to me that he hasn't learned Anything.
Well, you know, there are just some people that are just so ideological and political.
You know, I don't have a problem admitting that Republicans are weak.
Republicans are feckless.
Republicans have been visionless.
Republicans are lost.
Republicans have disappointed so many people.
Uh that Republicans have lost their way.
Um my hope for Donald Trump is I I know he's going up against not only a democratic immediate establishment, but also a Republican establishment.
That is gonna, they're gonna cower, they're gonna buckle, they're gonna want to, and it's gonna be Trump that holds them up, I hope.
When you don't vote, you let another church explode.
When you don't vote, you allow another cross to burn.
When you don't vote, you let another assault wound a brother or sister.
When you don't vote, you let the Republicans continue to cut school lunches and hit start.
Sort of mainstream African American.
Yeah.
Who is articulate and bright and clean and nice looking guy?
I don't feel no ways tired.
I come too far from where I started from.
Nobody told me that the road would be easy.
You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.
I'm not talking.
I'm actually old enough to remember the good old days, and they weren't all that good in many ways.
That message we're I'll give you.
America Great Again is if you're a white southerner, you know exactly what it means, don't you?
Mm-hmm.
He's speaking to a population of this, a segment of the population who does not like to see people other than a white man in the White House in any other elected position.
I don't know how anyone of Hispanic heritage could be a Republican.
Okay?
Do I need to say more?
Romney wants to let the he said the first hundred days, he's gonna let the big banks once again write their own rules.
Unchained Wall Street.
They're gonna put you all back in cheese.
Don't tell me we live in a colorbland society.
The Republicans know that theirs is the wrong agenda for African Americans.
That's why they don't even want to count you in the census.
They're doing everything they can to stop black people, Latinos, poor people, young people, people with disabilities from voting.
It's a blast from the Jim Crow past.
I thought we had won that battle back in the 1960s.
No, I think that they played the race card on me.
And we now know from memos from the campaign and everything that they plan to do it all along.
On June 7, 1998 in Texas, my father was killed.
He was beaten, chained, and then drank Green Mouse tools down.
All because he was black.
So when Governor George W. Bush refused to support hate crimes legislation, it was like my father was killed all over again.
Call George W. Bush and tell him to support hate crimes legislation.
We won't be dragged away from our future.
Why am I being taken out of here?
This man is evil!
You're evil!
Do not vote for Jim!
That's no remote!
You speak completely all the way!
Jensen, thank you so much for being here, both people!
We what do we have to do?
Wait a minute, you can't arrest me on the way!
White people don't get risked!
Wait a minute!
I'm the one man!
Um, but as attorney general.
No, bro!
I just wanted to see if they were still listening.
No Francis USA!
use
I think they're on the fence about Get Mo, but I'm not sure.
the soul fascist regime needs to be stopped before they start.
Refuse fascism.
No order to refuse.
No fascist.
No fascist.
You attack.
No fraud.
No vigor.
You attack.
No fraud.
No vigor.
No vigor.
You attack.
No fraud.
No vigor.
No vigor.
You attack.
You attack.
You're familiar with Canada.
We are people of America.
You have not to believe God against great legislation that will keep my country together.
You are supported by hate groups that are happy, trying to push racist and saying you are not a Republican general.
I'm sorry.
All right, news roundup and information overload hour here on the Sean Hannity Show.
We'll get to your calls at the bottom of this hour, 800 941 Sean.
Those were at the end some of the sounds of what happened at the Jeff Sessions confirmation hearings from earlier today, and leading up to that, a history that has become all too familiar.
And that is a Democratic Party that is void of ideas, consistently, constantly, reflexively, almost hypnotically, with their bumper stickers, their slogans, and their mean-spirited attacks that Republicans and conservatives are racist.
If you like Republicans, black churches are going to burn the Democratic Party in Missouri said in a radio ad in 98.
They're going to put you all back in change, Joe uh change Joe Biden said.
Republicans have the wrong agenda for African Americans.
They don't even want to count you in the census.
A blast from the Jim Crow past.
James Byrd, it's like my father was killed all over again.
Because George Bush didn't support hate crimes legislation, but he did support the death penalty for the people responsible for the evil, horrific dragging death of this this man, James Byrd.
Um it is typical, it is predictable, it is repugnant, and it's on display for all the world to see.
Pastor Daryl Scott, founder and senior pastor of the New Spirit Revival Center, Pastor Charles Christian Adams, or the Reverend Charles Christian Adams, presiding pastor of Hartford Memorial Baptist Church in Detroit, Michigan.
Welcome both of you to the program.
Pastor, I'll ask you, Adams, do you find any of what you just heard repugnant and untrue?
I mean, I assume as a pastor you believe the truth shall set us free, right?
Absolutely.
And the truth is that and the truth is is that Republicans are not racist.
Isn't that true, sir?
Absolutely.
I don't think that they are fundamentally racist.
No, I know many African American Republicans.
So when the democ when the Democratic Party says if you like Republicans, black churches are gonna burn, or Joe Biden says they're gonna put you all back in chains, and when Al Gore says they don't want to count you in the census, and Hillary Clinton says this is a blast from the Jim Crow past, and they're trying to compare Jeff Sessions, who actually put clan members in jail as a Klansman, it's it's evil, isn't that?
Isn't that one of the big ten that'll shout not bear false witness?
Isn't that one of the big ten?
Well, Sean, the important thing is to remember the context in which these comments were made, and as they relate to uh Jeff Sessions simply his past that they are.
Well, specifically you have to if you're gonna make that accusation, you specifically some of some of the uh mistakes that he has made.
Well, tell me what the mistakes are because can you please tell me specifically?
What are what what are you talking about?
Well, I'm talking about in uh 1985 when he uh tried to prosecute uh the voter fraud case in Alabama, in which uh it was not successful, but he still sticks by it.
He says that uh, you know, he prosecuted today just like he prosecuted it then.
So somehow, even though he put Klan members in jail, fought on multiple occasions, multiple occasions for civil rights and voting rights, and voted, you know, in all these instances.
I mean, I have a whole list of them here, he's delivering for all the people in this country, African Americans included.
So even though he tried to fight for voting rights for all, you somehow hold it against him that he didn't win a case.
Yeah, but he targeted specifically the African Americans and their behavior around the United States.
Well, the purpose just the opposite is true.
If nobody else, though, then, and that's what the concern is as far as his application of the law.
Well, I'm I'm trying to understand your logic here because, you know, he was the top civil rights enforcement case.
He was the one that in nineteen eighty-one worked with the Department of Justice, the FBI, and to solve the murder of a nineteen year old African American, Michael Donald and his U.S. attorney's office prosecutor Tiger Knowles as an accomplice, and he s is spending the rest of his life in prison,
and he shifted the case of the KKK murderer, Henry Hayes, to a state court where he got the death penalty, and it's the same Jeff Sessions who successfully prosecuted the Alabama Ku Klux Klan great Titan Jack Hayes, and it was Jeff Sessions that brought the first lawsuit in the history of the Department of Justice to stop the suppression of African American voting rights in the U.S. versus Conich County, the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, along with Sessions sued that county and white officials.
And by the way, they had to settle.
And by the way, he won.
So I ask you, uh, Pastor Darrell Scott.
Listen, this race card is being played out, it's being overused to the point that all of America's sick of it.
They have a number of allegations without any real proof that really want to know the truth.
The Democrats are the ones that demonstrate straight racism that Clinton's privatized prisons that enabled harsh then they enabled harshest sentences to bring black folks to heel in prison uh after they privatized them.
You know, what I'm seeing is that the Republican Party is being profiled by the party that claims to embrace diversity and to be against profiling.
They're trying to profile all Republicans as racists.
But when you go down and begin, once again, to examine Jeff Sessions'past, he voted for the extension of the Civil Rights Act, He voted to confirm Eric Holder as the first black attorney general.
He co-sponsored legislation to bring possession for crack cocaine more in line with the penalty for possession of powder cocaine.
He spearheaded up his to a roll award roll rose of parts to Alabama, uh she was an Alabama native, he wanted her to get the Congressional Gold Medal.
He even campaigned against George Wallace, the face of racism for the Democratic Party in Alabama when he was younger.
Now, from what I understand, then these guys must be schizoid racists or something.
Because, you know, one minute you guys claim they're racist, and then on another m minute we see all of these instances where they championed a campaign for civil rights.
You either a racist or you are.
Either he is or he isn't.
And if he is, then he would demonstrate all of the uh symptoms of racism when in fact he doesn't.
It seems as if the Democrats, that's all the Democrats have.
They don't have anything tangible or substantive to deny these appointments, to deny these votes.
So they simply say, Don't vote for him, don't pick him, don't do anything.
Why?
Because he's a racist.
What is your reaction, Pat Revan?
I mean, we have a lot of examples.
I don't think Jeff Sessions is a friend of Eric Holder, and I think he voted for him.
Whether he's a very good thing.
He voted for him.
He hated black people, then he would not vote for a black person.
That's the first thing.
He would have voted against him.
But but Congress has stood as an obstructionist to Barack Obama's policies, and they stood within uh uh Eric Holder's term as a uh constant uh uh threat to what they were trying to uh accomplish.
Is the Congressional Black Congress is that a racist organization?
Because the C B C the Congressional Black Caucus.
Donald Trump has been in office one day and they've already pledged to oppose whatever he tried to do.
Now they're doing that because he's white.
Yes.
But you know what?
You say if and you say himself they they have not uh pledged to uh obstruct with the same vigor uh President elect Trump as uh Congress obstructed President Barack Obama.
It was unprecedented the level of obstruction that we saw under President Barack Obama.
It was unprecedented.
All right, let me let me ask this question.
I want to ask this important question.
Can you name any any statistic, Pastor uh Adams?
Any one thing, any one economic telltale sign that shows that in the eight years Obama's been president that black Americans are better off because we have millions of more black Americans, a twenty percent increase of black Americans out of the labor force.
We have a massive increase of black Americans on food stamps and in poverty.
Tell me where Barack Obama's agendas help black America.
Well, you know, I said it before that the poverty rate give me a specific.
Give me one specific give me one specific measure where black Americans are better off.
Obama's been president eight years.
I'm gonna tell you the poverty rate under President Barack Obama was uh continued to shrink.
No, we have eight million more.
Excuse me, sir.
We have eight million more Americans on poverty since Obama's been elected.
Yes, but we w it was growing at a higher rate under President George Bush.
So that's not true.
So eight million more Americans in poverty is a success for you.
Thirteen million more Americans on food stamps is a success for you.
The lowest labor participation rate, ninety five million Americans out of the labor force, is successful to you.
Yeah, but the question is what was it before Barack Obama was elected?
I'm I'm giving you the numbers since I'm giving you the numbers since Obama's been in office.
He accumulated more debt than all 43 presidents combined.
That's success to you.
Well, he had to reinvest in the infrastructure of the United States.
You mean with Solyndra?
It took money to stem the tide of the political...
I mean of the economic uh uh downturn that we had taken under Bush.
But no, no, no, no.
The downturn that was taken under Bush was simply the House of Guards that collapsed that was built by the Clintons.
The Clintons were in control when the banks were deregulated and the subprime lending uh was inacted.
It was a House of Cards built under under Clinton that collapsed under Bush.
All right, I gotta leave it there.
Thank you both for being with us.
When we come back, wide open telephones.
Toll free are numbers eight hundred nine four one Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
Hi, twenty five till the top of the hour.
All right, let's go to our uh busy telephones.
We'll start with Kate.
She's in Houston.
Kate, hi.
How are you?
And welcome to the program.
Hey, Sean, how are you?
I'm good.
Happy New Year to you and and thanks for listening to KTRH.
Happy New Year to you.
I just want to thank you so much for being so kind to send me my awesome Trump pen.
I love it so much.
Uh you know what?
I have people mad that they didn't get 'em.
I mean, uh how many do we buy?
Two thousand of them.
You know, the Trump pen.
Well, they're worth it.
Hang on.
Hang on.
Ready?
Look.
I'm really rich.
Hang on.
I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that world.
By the way, they love it.
There's some controversy over that rule.
Yeah, I know.
Is it fun?
Yeah, go ahead.
The video of my four-year-old for you.
I'm going to send it to you because you're going to love it.
She gets to the point where he says, Well, politicians are stupid.
Politizers are stupid.
And she flips out because she's like, on my word.
He said a bad word.
Oh, that's that's so funny.
We love it.
You know what?
It's so funny.
And I was glad to get him.
And by the way, I bought them before he won the election.
How do you like that?
I know.
So what's on your mind to me?
I know.
I'm so thankful.
I think we had like a hundred thousand plus requests.
It was crazy.
Well, I know, because they're collector's items now.
You know what I mean?
I'm never giving that thing away.
Okay.
Okay.
So but not also because it's from you.
You know, it's had your golden touch.
So it can't be going anywhere from it.
Thank you.
So today we're going to talk about uh with your help here, Trump's media farsities.
I just made that word up.
You like it?
I like it.
Tell me why.
All right.
So number one, we're going to talk about Putin because of your awesome interview that you did with Assange, which we were just glued to the TV, completely riveted.
I mean, back in 2000, I don't you don't know this about me.
My degree was post-Soviet East European studies.
That's my degree.
I studied that in college.
So Putin has been on my radar since back in 2000 when he took power.
And then, you know, we've watched him sort of the deminations of how he's continued to keep this power.
And now the whole media is, oh, you know, he's this is something that he everyone's been colluding that the Trump camp has colluded to get him into power and they're best friends, and all he can do is do flatter him.
You know, that's just the biggest varsity ever.
And you and I know that this is because Trump can read people.
Trump knows his number.
He wants to have an advantageous relationship with somebody.
He doesn't want to create another cold war.
But he's not stupid.
You know what I'm saying?
Listen, I I think the world will respect him more, and the world fearing and respecting America is better for the world.
Because that that means look, there's this fear is a great motivator in life.
Like for example, one of the things in the last five years of my life is I've worked hard on learning self-defense.
Now, Linda and Lauren and Jason and Ethan and Sweet Baby James, they kind of make fun of me.
And my son used to make fun of me until I showed him some moves, and he's not making fun like he used to anymore.
Now he thinks you're a ninja.
Well, I I don't think I'm a ninja, but it's it's very it's a very, very violent art that I'm learning.
It's a combination.
I love body combat.
I do that a bit.
It's full body contact.
It's it's everything from br uh from grappling to boxing to Kraub Maga to Kenpo to Jiu-Jitsu, but basically how to win a street fight.
There's blade and and and weapon training involved in this and gun training involved in this, and and it's a lot of repetition.
And it basically is how to win a fight in 30 seconds and break a lot of bones.
Right.
Well, I mean, and the thing about the thing about Trump is that he has the ability to win a verbal fight here.
You know, he knows, looking into the future, that this is not.
It is not an East West world anymore.
We are a North South world.
We need to be able to have advantageous relationships.
It is like you were saying, it's bad for the world to be able to continue to pick fights with Russia.
We don't want to do that.
And I just have to say, I am so proud of you.
You I know you say you're not a journalist, blah, blah, blah.
But you are a journalist of the A plus category.
You went twenty-two hours back and forth on this plane.
You interviewed the source of what has been going on for the past three weeks as one of the biggest media farsities about this whole stupid thing with the Russia.
You had every question point blank answered completely, and yet people are still trying to pull that interview apart.
It's it's hilarious to me.
And then I'm also informing everybody of every government agency's butt that it has been hacked, and then I'm pointing out that in the Podesta case, it's because he fell for a stupid fishing scam.
It's not because we were hacked anyway.
And the fact that WikiLeaks released it is is their stupid fault.
It's not, you know, the there's some reality here.
And some people say, well, Hannity's friends with Putin.
I don't trust him as far as I can throw.
I mean Exactly.
It's crazy.
All right.
Well, listen, God bless you, Kate.
You made my day, and um I think always make mine, Sean.
I appreciate it.
Listen, I j I want to say to all my irredeemable, deplorable friends out here, uh like Kate in Houston.
We've got a big fight ahead of us.
We have a major battle on every front.
The Supreme Court, the economy, tax cuts, repatriation, repealing, replacing Obamacare, energy, independence.
I love Ted Cruz's proposal for term limits.
Great idea.
Education, back to the states, building the wall, vetting refugees.
There's gonna be a fight.
You can't walk away.
Trump won the election.
Oh, okay, everything he's gonna snap his fingers and it's gonna be fixed.
No, every one of these issues will be a major fight.
And your help and your support and the pressure you're gonna put on your congressmen and women and women and and senators are gonna be crucial.
All right, my good friend Tavaris in Greenville, North Carolina.
What are you whining about today?
Let me get to my point, Sean, about you wiki leaking all over yourself in this interview with.
Did you think of that all yourself?
That's sort of like the best line Trump had in one of the debates is when he goes, You're gonna use honest aim to life.
I'm not wiki-leaking a little truth.
I'm not wiki leaking over anything.
All I did was to do an interview.
I did an interview.
You literally you apologize to a criminal.
I didn't apologize to anybody.
I asked him questions.
Yes, you did.
You said I apologize to you.
I said about you.
No, no, no.
Let me tell you, because I believe he's done a good service for this country.
And let me a crib he's a criminal.
Excuse me.
Wait a minute.
Uh listen, I know more about WikiLeaks than you do.
But the fact that he exposes America's cybersecurity weaknesses, if you look at it the right way, it's a favor.
Now we can fix it.
Now we can be cyber secure.
Number two.
He also exposed a level of corruption that not even liberal Tavaris in Greenville, North Carolina that's that's racing around the the country and is is 18 wheeler day in and day out.
Uh even you should be glad that we found out how corrupt John Podesta is.
And nobody, nobody hacked into John Podesta, he gave it up himself through a fishing scam because he's an idiot.
Can I okay Sean, was he did did uh Julian Assange crack into the Pentagon or defense?
Was he was he given access uh when he did that when he was sixteen years old?
No, I'm I'm saying if a 16-year-old no, listen, listen Is he a criminal?
Listen, that's against the law, yeah.
But that doesn't but that's but you're missing you're missing my big bro broader point here.
Look.
I don't trust criminals.
Okay, you need to you need to follow the bouncing ball here.
If the Department of Defense, the White House, Department of State, the Department of Officer Personnel, China hacked 23 million people there, and all of this happens since 2009, and um and nobody in Washington fixes it, then at what point does it become our fault for being stupid?
Okay, so then stop to it.
So then at some point you've got to say we've known all these hacking incidents occurred.
They didn't fix it, and now their only concern is to use this one incident where John Podesta's an idiot to delegitimize Trump.
If they really cared about hacking, they would have since ten years ago, they would have secured they would have secured they would have secured our emails and secured our top secret documents.
They didn't do a thing, and the only reason you're hearing about it now is for pure political purposes.
Checkmate.
Checkmate.
Don't get mad.
Checkmate.
Don't get mad at me because I'm not wicked leaking on myself like you uh conservative of the right.
I I refuse to be able to do that.
So let me ask you a question.
So I send you to college, and this is the thanks I get.
Didn't I send you to college?
Wait a minute.
Didn't I say I didn't I pay out of my own pocket for you to go to college?
You did.
You didn't.
So I pay.
Because wait a minute, because why did I do that?
Because I wanted you to have a better life.
Why?
So you can call in and attack me?
No, you did that because you love me.
No, I don't I don't love your best friend.
I took I took Big Baby James's spot.
And now I gotta worry about you being best friends with Donald Trump.
I'm not gonna take this anymore, Sean.
You can't you can't put me at second fiddle to anybody.
I still love you.
You guys listen, you go wiki leak and I'll handle it.
I'll handle I'll handle the cybersecurity issues that we're facing.
Stop wickedly on yourself, Sean.
I love you, Tavaris.
God bless you.
Uh just in time, our friend from Silver Spring, Maryland.
Justin.
Now, Justin, by the way, has been a long time caller.
He goes to bars and he meets women and he goes, Hi, how are you?
My name's Justin.
I'm just in time to save your life and show you the romance you've been dreaming of.
True or false.
You do that, don't you?
I have never done that.
That would be cheesy.
Except when I have seen you fly up to the bar and go, I'm gonna honoze you, baby.
Happy New Year, happy new year.
Happy New Year, man.
What's going on?
But but Sean, I gotta tell you.
What's up?
Uh there is a situation the interview that you did with uh with Asaj, absolutely fantastic.
But let me tell you about uh I heard that Joe Scarborough had made some comments about you and this interview, and there's supposed to be some special love affair that you've got going on.
Let me tell you, Joe Scarborough does not maintain strict conservative principles.
He seems as though he is just wishy-washy, he's going back and forth, and I really don't appreciate him not being true.
He should say what he means, means what he says.
But here is the part that's real important.
If he was all that concerned, or any of the of the network, why didn't they pursue an interview with this man that they have con they have concerns with?
Does that make sense to you?
Listen, I I think this is repulsive, Joe.
First, nobody watches a show.
His radio show flopped.
You know, repulsive Joe flips and flops and flails.
He is the poster child of what it is to be an establishment person.
He can't be look, if he's proud to work at MSNBC, then why is he always begging for jobs elsewhere?
And Joe, by the way.
Oh, oh my goodness.
You didn't just drop a uh drop some information.
Oh yeah.
Listen, I dropped a lot.
Listen, I dropped that bomb on Twitter.
And by the way, by the way, I have at least ten more bombs in my um verbal bombs, of course I'm talking about.
Ten more verbal, well, let's just say, um, attacks that I have ready for Joe if he wants to keep this going.
If Joe wants to keep this going, I if he wants to go there, I'll go there.
Well, you know what?
What I'd like for you to do.
Now, I'm gonna tell you that this is very important now.
I want you, and I'm gonna hold your feet to the fire.
Yes, sir.
If if Trump messes up, and if he doesn't do what he says, if he flip-flops, and if he does something, I am gonna call you out if you don't bust him.
So this is an opportunity for him to do what he says.
And so if not, then he would have just simply been a con man the way other people have accused him of being.
Listen, Mike Pence said the other day before the Republican caucus, this is a time for promise keeping.
Here are Donald Trump's promises that I want kept.
I want originalists on the Supreme Court.
I want refugees vetted, I want the wall built.
And by the way, he did say to me that no Mexico's not gonna give me a check, Mexico, but he there will be a price for them to pay.
So I'm not worried about that.
I do want the corporate rate lowered, like he said.
I do want the repatriation opportunity given.
I do want health care savings accounts and Obamacare repealed.
I want executive orders repealed.
I want energy independence advanced in the next four years, and I want education sent back to the states.
If he doesn't follow through on those promises, I promise you, I will call him out.
You have my word of honor.
Okay?
I love it.
I appreciate it, and I'm gonna only tell you one more thing.
I still have and still use the soda stream that you sent me.
Oh man, that goes back a ways.
It's good, isn't it?
I loved it.
It it absolutely is.
And so you know what?
I'm gonna say thank you.
Happy research.
God bless you.
Get ready.
I'm just in time to change your world.
That would be a good line at a bar.
Jason, to use that at Coyote Ugly.
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