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	Why am I being taken out of here?
	This man is evil!
	You're evil!
	Do not vote for Jeff Session!
	No, Rebecca!
	Jefferson, thank you so much for being here, Full People!
	What do we have to do?
	Wait a minute, you can't arrest me on the way!
	White people don't get arrested!
	Wait a minute!
	What is this craziness?
	I'm the one there who's been now taking me out of here.
	But as Attorney General, in the name of Uranians!
	No trouble!
	I just wanted to see if they were still listening.
	No!
	No kidding!
	No fascist USA!
	No!
	It's the name of the human!
	Don't take me to the race USA!
	I'm on the fence about Gitmo, but I'm not sure.
	Does not feel good.
	This whole fascist scheme needs to be stopped before they start.
	Use fascists enough for kill trust!
	No expansion!
	No fascist USB!
	No biggie, no passage!
	No biggie, make a practice you have fight!
	You can't fashion!
	You're familiar with Canada.
	And we are the people of America.
	You have to please but against bravery legislation that will keep my family together.
	You are here by the neighbors.
	You are supported by hate groups.
	That are not being trying to punch racist legislation.
	You are not a new attorney general.
	All right, that from the confirmation hearings in the Senate Judiciary earlier today for Senator Jeff Sessions to be the Attorney General.
	What did I predict yesterday?
	I predicted exactly every single solitary argument that the left and liberals would make.
	It is so predictable.
	It is so mainstream now.
	It is the only thing in their playbook.
	You know, there's one interesting moment there because a lot of code pink ladies got thrown out of the hearings today, and you got people trying to put on white sheets and acting like they're Klan members, and they got thrown out of there, and so on and so forth.
	But that one guy that said, you're evil, you're evil.
	Now, I'm going to, the only reason I highlight that is there are Democrats in their heart of hearts.
	They think if you are a conservative, then you don't believe in bigger government and a cradle-to-grave mentality and womb to the tomb, that there is evil in you.
	And in spite of all of the data that we have from the Jimmy Carter years and the Obama years have been so atrocious for every single demographic group in this country, millions more in poverty, food stamps out of work, not buying homes, worst recovery, no growth, lowest labor participation rate.
	They can't see that their policies fail.
	They will not be able to recognize it.
	I mean, you're going to see the president tonight.
	I'll start the show tonight and I'll say everything, this is what the president didn't tell you.
	And he'll talk about all his economic success and he'll whittle away, well, you know, one statistic, well, private sector jobs or this sector job or that sector or this age group or that demographic.
	It's just all nonsense.
	Because the reality is all those numbers I gave to you all last year are as relevant today as ever.
	One of the most fascinating developments since the election are all of these companies that are deciding, you know what?
	I like the sound of what Donald Trump is saying.
	I like going from one of the highest corporate tax rates in the industrialized world to one of the lowest.
	And as a result of that, you know, you see all of these car companies now deciding Ford and I guess, what was the other one?
	Fiat Chrysler and, of course, Carrier.
	And then we told you yesterday the story of this billionaire guy.
	What's his name?
	The Alibaba executive chairman, Jack Ma.
	He's chatting with Trump how to create 1 million U.S. jobs over five years.
	Trump is talking about allowing corporations to repatriate their money at a low 10% rate, not the 35% rate that we currently have.
	You know, you've got, we're literally now all everything's on hold and it's having an impact in other ways.
	Now, Mexico is scared to death.
	Mexico now has seen three major companies in America now pledge to stop producing their cars, their air conditioners, their products in Mexico.
	And they're taking those factories and they're going to build in Michigan.
	They're going to build in Detroit.
	They're going to build in Wisconsin and Ohio and Pennsylvania.
	And then once you open up energy independence on top of that, there's no telling how big this could get.
	So now, immediately, what did Donald Trump say?
	I played it last night on TV.
	I said, Donald Trump said, yeah, we're going to appropriate money for the wall.
	But I asked him during the campaign, I said, well, you don't expect Mexico to write a check to you.
	They're not going to pay for the wall.
	He said, no, they're not going to pay for it that way.
	They're going to pay for it this way.
	And then he talked about renegotiating NAFTA and other trade deals.
	And he talked about how much money we would save.
	And by incentivizing companies to stay, how that'll increase our tax base, money coming into the country, putting more people to work, less people dependent on government, and it just works.
	It's called the free market.
	So Mexico's new foreign relations secretary, he wants to start talks with Donald Trump immediately about NAFTA and about the wall.
	And he wants to talk about the wall because he sees all of these companies now being incentivized with the hope that our federal government is going to be a partner.
	You know, the guy from Carrier, I don't think is going to have a problem if there's a bureaucratic regulation that's killing the air conditioning business to get on the phone directly with the president of the United States and say, hey, remember me, I'm the guy that made a deal with you, and I said I'm not going to send those jobs to Mexico.
	I need your help because this is becoming cost-prohibitive, what they're doing to the economy.
	And then hence, jobs will be able to remain here.
	You know, Apple announced now they are seeking to expand manufacturing in Arizona.
	Good for Arizona.
	They deserve it.
	You know, you've got all of these federal workers now.
	They're preparing for cuts under Trump.
	I love Rand Paul's going to join us later on the program.
	Rand has produced a budget, unlike I have no idea why he only got 14 of his colleagues to support a deal that would balance the budget in five years, which included, by the way, a freeze on federal spending with some flexibility.
	If you want to spend more on defense, you'd have to cut in this area instead.
	There's certainly a lot of waste, fraud, and abuse in government.
	Why would Republicans, when they have control of all three branches of government, they have the House, they have the Senate, they have the presidency and the White House, why are they, over 10 years, going to raise the debt by $10 trillion?
	I thought they were the party of limited government.
	I thought they were the party of balanced budgets.
	Now, there is a way to pay for infrastructure, but you've got to pay for it as you go.
	Maybe some of that money comes from energy and the jobs that are created and the taxes that are involved.
	Maybe some of that money comes from repatriated money back into the country, and you can take a certain percentage of that and earmark that towards whatever infrastructure spending you want.
	But I hope they so dramatically change and shift how we do things in Washington.
	It would be so awesome.
	You know, imagine you take any project that you want for infrastructure, and rather than allowing that money to go through Congress and their greedy hands in the bureaucracy, you know, what if we had an independent board of business people that would prioritize what the projects are in all 50 states, and then from there appropriate the funds and take it away from the federal government,
	give it directly to the states with a mandate that they complete the task on time under budget or they don't get any more federal money.
	There are ways to incentivize people to do it well.
	Fiat Chrysler announced a huge U.S. investment.
	They're pulling out, they're going to invest a billion dollars in two U.S. factories in Michigan, and they're going to start producing their pickup trucks and hot-selling SUVs and get out of producing small and mid-sized cars.
	Ford is going to move their plant back to the United States that they were sending, but a billion dollars is going to be spent by Fiat Chrysler in Michigan.
	Ohio, by the way, is going to get another 2,000 jobs out of this deal.
	Here's an interesting side note.
	Want to know about the economy?
	Want to know about liberalism and its spectacular failure?
	It's not that hard.
	There's a story in the fiscal times that says, oh, Chicago and New York, two of the most liberal cities, two of the most big government liberal cities in the country, are in the worst financial shape among large U.S. cities.
	Now, why is that?
	Because they spend more than they take in.
	You look at the amount of money, for example, 8 million people living in New York and just the amount of money they get in city taxes and state taxes.
	And, you know, I mean, they tax you everywhere but loose in New York.
	There's a 40% death tax federally, a 10% death tax at the state of New York.
	I think you even have a city death tax.
	And you end up with like 40 cents of every dollar that you already paid taxes on the first time.
	And government feels they can take their greedy hands and put it in your pocket.
	You know, L.A., Los Angeles, another liberal city, they need to borrow millions of dollars to cover all the legal payouts that they're paying.
	Well, who can afford this?
	Anyway, back to everything that I predicted.
	I'm not as alarmed as I might have been yesterday.
	But after I played Clarence Thomas and after I played Robert Bork and after I played a history of the Democrats playing the race card and watching the hearings today, I mean, it was every single thing that I predicted, and it all happened before your eyes today.
	Notice how the Democratic Party, the left wing of this party, is so worked up over the Ku Klux Klan.
	Remember last summer, Donald Trump didn't announce David Duke fast enough.
	I honestly don't think he knew who David Duke was.
	I really believe that.
	And you say, well, why didn't he know?
	He should have known.
	Not really.
	You know, who follows what these idiot radicals are saying and doing?
	Nobody cares.
	That's pretty old news.
	David Duke.
	Anyway, you got the Code Pink demonstrators showing up at Jeff Sessions in the confirmation hearings dressed up in white sheets and hoods.
	You know, where are all these crusaders for racial tolerance when Democrats made a genuine card-carrying former Klan member president pro tem of the U.S. Senate?
	Where were they when Robert KKK Byrd was third in line for the presidency?
	I don't remember any protests by Code Pink when that happened.
	I don't remember the Reverend Al Sharpton calling it a nightmare when his fellow left-wingers made a one-time Klan recruiter the most powerful Democrat in Congress.
	Where was Code Pink this election season when Hillary blurted out that former Klansman Robert Byrd had been her mentor in the U.S. Senate?
	Referring to her first year as a senator in 2001, the same year, by the way, that Robert Byrd blurted out the N-word to Tony Snow on national TV, not once, but twice.
	Where was the Congressional Black Caucus when that happened?
	Where was Jesse Jackson?
	Why were they all silent?
	Here's a guy that actually prosecuted the Klan successfully on multiple occasions, Jeff Sessions, and he doesn't get credit.
	Here's a guy that stood up for the Freedom Marchers and Rosa Parks in every instance in his life, voting rights, going back to the 70s and 80s, and he did so successfully.
	And yet he has to answer these asinine questions in this dog and pony show at the Senate Judiciary Committee.
	You know, where's the outrage?
	You see what I always call selective moral outrage by the Democratic Party.
	Anyway, 800-941-Sean is a toll-free telephone number.
	All right, so Corey Booker, yes, he makes up little green men in his head.
	What is that?
	How do you make up a composite of all these different people that you've run into and tell a story with such passion as he has been telling?
	Anyway, what we played for you earlier, that was back in February of what, 2016, when Jeff Sessions partnered with Booker to award the Congressional Gold Medal to those that participated in the 65 Voting Rights Act and march from Selma to Montgomery.
	And just like he did for the Freedom Riders in 1961, and just like he did for Rosa Parks.
	And Booker said, I feel blessed and honored to have partnered with Senator Sessions in being the Senate sponsors of this important award.
	This is truly one of my life's greatest moments.
	I am humbled to be able to participate here in paying tribute to some of the extraordinary Americans whose footsteps paved the way for me and my generation.
	I feel blessed and honored to have partnered with Senator Sessions in being the Senate sponsors of this important award.
	Okay.
	So what's he going to say tomorrow to contradict that?
	And that's the funny thing.
	I mean, you got Pat Leahy and you got Dick Durbin and Dick Durbin worked with Senator Sessions to get as equal as possible.
	There's this disparity in sentencing, crack cocaine versus powder cocaine.
	All the experts I remember interviewing at the time just said that crack was that much more insidious and evil, a much harder drug, a much more concentrated level of the drug, but it was disproportionate.
	And as much as it tended to impact the black community more, and they reduced the sentencing together, and then he went after Jeff Sessions on the fact that he doesn't think people with the three strikes are out law ought to get these pardons that Obama's been given out.
	Somehow that must be racist.
	And he highlighted one particular individual.
	Does it matter that black pastors are in Washington rallying for the Attorney General nominee Jeff Sessions?
	Apparently not to a lot of people.
	You know, when we played those protesters earlier and they're Republican, Jeff Sessions is evil.
	I really think that Democrats believe that.
	And I think Democrats think Republicans in many ways are evil.
	I'm going to tell you, they're going to have a very hard time coping in the next 200 days.
	And what do I mean by that?
	What most people haven't figured out yet on the Democratic side is Donald Trump already has planned on day one in the opening hours of his presidency to undo every executive order that is hurting the country, hurting businesses in America, hurting the economy in America, and is going to go after this with a vengeance and with a passion.
	He'll spend the first hours of his presidency undoing all of the regulatory, burdensome regulatory disasters that have been put on the economy since Obama has been the president of the United States.
	It's going to go fast.
	And that's probably 75% of the agenda of Obama.
	There's an upside, I guess, if you rule by executive fiat, you get things done with a stroke of a pen, but there's also a downside.
	And the downside is it can be undone just as simply.
	You know, Obama's touting his great success.
	You know, he gave us, he doubled the national debt.
	He gave us a trillion-dollar tax increase in Obamacare over a decade, $1 trillion.
	That'll be the next thing that goes.
	By the time you get rid of Obamacare and executive orders, about 85, 90% of the Obama presidency is done, gone, wiped away off the books.
	It's almost as if he never lived there, like he never existed.
	And the only thing that really remains is his horrific foreign policy, the horrific state of the economy, the judges that he's appointed, and the record debt that he's accumulated.
	You know, there's an estimate that is out, Regulation Rodeo, an American action forum, they assessed $870.3 billion, the cost of all the new federal government regulations finalized since Obama took office.
	$750 billion, our trade deficit last year.
	It's interesting to watch Mexico.
	They can't get in the negotiating room fast enough to meet Trump, which puts Trump in a great position just by picking up the phone, making phone calls, and pressuring companies and incentivizing companies to stay here.
	More of incentivizing through getting rid of regulation and better tax policies for corporations, he's incentivizing them to stay.
	I don't think most corporations like the idea of taking their corporations to Mexico.
	I think if they can make a healthy profit here, they don't mind paying their 15% corporate tax rate.
	Every one of their employees will pay income taxes.
	If you get rid of the regulations that are burdening them with billions of dollars in costs, you take away that.
	Now they can make a healthy profit.
	And then they can put Americans back to work.
	And we can revitalize cities like Detroit and Milwaukee and Pittsburgh and all these other cities that desperately need help.
	And places around Cleveland, another city.
	Anyway, you have a $690 billion increase in student debt.
	Well, what our government does, I guess we do.
	The estimated cost of all the new EPA regulations finalized since Obama took office, $344 billion.
	The projected cost of Obama's finalized clean power plan regulations, $300 billion.
	And this is insane, the amount of money that we're talking about.
	This is real money, millions and billions of dollars that's holding back this economy.
	And then Obama literally said, he goes, well, he admitted Sunday that he never imagined Trump would become president because he's out of touch with the American people because he lives in a bubble.
	Yeah, that's saying a lot.
	You know, when you really look at it, because the president's going to speak tonight, and he's not going to give you the statistics.
	I won't regurgitate them because I made a promise I'll stop using them, but I did it for effect last year during the election year.
	He's not going to tell you all those things.
	He's not going to tell you that Iran is better off because you realize since we gave money to Iran, guess what do you think?
	What do you think Iran is spending that money on?
	Obama's now paid Iran more than $10 billion since 2013.
	Well, there's an article out today how Iran is spending the nuclear deal money on troops, on missiles, and arms for terrorists.
	We had to have earlier this week or over the weekend, the country that Obama showered with these billions of dollars in sanctions relief.
	Well, they can't resist launching attacks on our warships.
	So a U.S. Navy destroyer had to fire three warning shots at four Iranian fast-attack vessels after they closed, were closing in at a higher rate of speed near the Straits of Hormuz.
	Two U.S. defense officials told Reuters.
	You may remember back in September, Trump vowed that any Iranian vessel that harasses the U.S. Navy in the Gulf, in this particular case, will be shot out of the water.
	And I bet you the Iranians believe him.
	We'll see over time how that unfolds.
	And Trump's defense secretary, this will be interesting to watch, the man that he tapped to be the next Secretary of Defense, literally wanted to launch airstrikes against Iran after Iran built missiles that were used in several deadly attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq.
	Mad Dog Mattis wanted to do this.
	He had a plan to retaliate.
	The Obama administration denied his request.
	Things are going to change.
	And these countries will learn very quickly that there is a new sheriff in town.
	Now, do I think it's his goal to get into foreign conflict?
	God, I hope not.
	Who wants the foreign conflict?
	We know that it's eventually going to be politicized, but I'm telling you what the left's goal is.
	You're hearing it.
	You're seeing it at the Jeff Sessions hearings today.
	Their goal is to delegitimize Donald Trump.
	Their goal is to create a caricature.
	Their goal is to create an image.
	They're not going to change.
	Their talking points are predictable.
	Republicans are mean-spirited.
	Republicans only care about the rich.
	They don't care about the poor.
	Republicans are racist.
	Republicans are sexist.
	Republicans are homophobic.
	They're Islamic phobic.
	They're xenophobic.
	Every single agenda item of Donald Trump is going to be going to be challenged by the left.
	And today is only a small sample of what's to come.
	If Trump tries to lower the tax rate, I am concerned about what seems like a willingness to spend too much money without a, I have not seen a how do we pay for the infrastructure for the trillion dollars they're talking about.
	There is ways to do it.
	Rand Paul, I know, put forward a budget that would be balanced in five years this week.
	And that's sort of a knockoff of the penny plan.
	He just wants to freeze spending.
	In other words, you eliminate baseline budgeting.
	And you don't have these built-in increases for every government department every year.
	And you'd have some flexibility.
	Maybe you want to spend more on defense, less on the EPA, more on defense, less on the Interior Department.
	So there are ways to do it.
	There's certainly a lot of fat to be cut.
	But then Republicans, on the other hand, go around, and this frustrates the living daylights out of me.
	Why did they raise the debt ceiling nearly $10 trillion?
	The same amount of debt that Obama took on in the last eight years.
	That means it's status quo.
	They've got the House.
	They've got the Senate.
	I thought they were the party of limited government, balanced budgets.
	They better take into consideration that we cannot, as a country, as an economy, keep bringing on this level of debt, these high deficits, without paying a very dear price.
	At some point down the line, interest rates are going to go up.
	They're starting to creep up now.
	And that means that we're going to eventually have to pay for it.
	So there's a lot happening here.
	I think when Trump goes forward and he appoints a Supreme Court justice, you've never seen demonization like it's coming.
	Doesn't matter who he picks.
	Whoever he picks, Chuck Schumer has pledged to oppose.
	So if he picks from any of his list, they're going to be opposed.
	When he puts an originalist on the bench, then we're going to see if Mitch McConnell has a backbone, whether or not Mitch McConnell will play by Harry Reid's rules, how committed Mitch McConnell is.
	And the same charges, the same repetitive bumper stickers and slogans will be used in those hearings and probably for every other cabinet official that goes before whatever appropriate committee they have to go before.
	When Donald Trump wants a tax plan that lowers the corporate tax to 15%, allows a 10% repatriation for trillions overseas, it's going to be Republicans hate the poor and they want to help only their buddies that are rich.
	Well, I never got a job from a poor person.
	And if those people continue this process of what we see unfolding with Fiat Chrysler and Carrier and Ford and all these other companies, and this Alibaba guy who wants to create a million jobs in the U.S. in the next couple of years, well, then we're going to see all of those Americans that have been suffering that can't buy cars and homes and houses, and they're going to now have money to see their dreams come to fruition.
	That's the whole point.
	If these companies don't invest in Detroit, if they don't invest in Milwaukee, if they don't invest in Cleveland, if they don't invest in Pittsburgh and Pennsylvania and Philly, how are you going to save these cities?
	What liberals have tried hasn't worked.
	The one thing they may think Republicans are evil, but they'll never look at how they have failed.
	National debt, $19.9 trillion.
	National debt increase under Obama, $9.3 trillion.
	Increase in regulation paperwork, $583 million hours.
	Obama administration payment to Iran in the hostage deal, $400 million.
	Criminal illegal aliens released by Obama, $86,288 for fiscal year 2013 through 2015.
	New federal regulations finalized since Obama took office, $2,988.
	Average increase in college tuition costs under Obama, $4,857 at four-year public colleges.
	Economic costs of regulations, $873.6 billion since Obama took office.
	Billion.
	How does business compete with that economic environment?
	U.S. global trade deficit, 2016, $732.2 billion.
	Increase in student loan debt, as I said, $690 billion.
	Manufacturing job losses since the president took office, $301,000.
	Bureau of Labor statistics.
	Estimated cost, EPA regulations, $344 billion.
	Economic cost regulations, $873.6 billion.
	Home ownership rate is down dramatically, lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.
	Number of Americans on food stamps under Obama, from $31 million to $43.3 million.
	I mean, if you want to look at Democrat, how has this fared for the Democratic Party?
	Not well.
	Since 2009, Obama's in office.
	They've lost the presidency, 13 Senate seats, 64 House seats, 13 governorships, and 33 state houses.
	Nearly 1,000 seats total.
	How's that hope and change thing working out for everybody?
	Doesn't look too good.
	But that's not what you're going to hear tonight.
	You're not going to hear Iran has failed.
	Iraq has failed.
	Afghanistan has failed.
	Benghazi, North Africa has failed.
	The Russian reset failed.
	Our relations with China, North Korea has failed.
	We've had the worst relationship with Israel in our history.
	Where do we have any success?
	ISIS is on the move with the money that was provided by pulling out of Iraq early.
	I want you to clarify exactly where you stand and based on your conversation with Donald Trump, where he stands on repealing and replacing Obamacare, because my understanding is you don't want to repeal it until exactly that day.
	There is a plan in place to replace it.
	And you've said that Donald Trump is with you on that.
	Where exactly is he and where are you?
	As a physician, as an individual, as a patient, I'm very much opposed to Obamacare and think it's been a disaster for our country.
	And I will vote for a repeal.
	I do think, though, that we should vote on replacement the same day.
	I'm putting together a bill.
	It's virtually completed.
	It will be full of the consensus opinions on replacement.
	Basically, that we need to insure the most amount of people at the least amount of cost.
	It'll involve three main areas for replacement.
	One, that we legalize the sale of inexpensive insurance so everybody can buy it.
	We help people save so they can buy insurance through health savings accounts.
	And then we help individuals to associate with groups of individuals through health association plans so they can spread their risk and get a cheaper product.
	If you put those three market reforms together, as well as some tax changes, I think you can get something that virtually every Republican agrees to, but would also help soften the blow as we go from Obamacare to a more market-oriented type of industry again.
	All right, that was Senator Rand Paul, hour two of the Sean Hannity Show.
	Write down our toll-free telephone number.
	You want to be a part of this extravaganza, 800-941 Sean, if you want to join us.
	You know, it's somewhat odd and a bit bizarre.
	I know that, look, I know there are nine specific plans Republicans have out there, and November 9th came and went a long time ago.
	And we knew that this was on the Trump agenda.
	It was going to be the number one item.
	It was the number one pledge of almost every candidate that ran for office in the House and Senate that's Republican.
	And I'll echo the words of Senator Rick Sam Torum of Pennsylvania, former senator, who said, I'm stunned that they don't have a consensus plan yet at this point.
	Now, Tom Price, who's going to be the Health and Human Services Secretary, he, in fact, has a plan.
	We have interviewed him a number of times on this program about what that plan is.
	Donald Trump talked at length with me in interviews about health care savings accounts, portability, taking your insurance job to job, co-ops, as Rand Paul was talking about, and health care savings accounts.
	I think all of the different items in the nine separate bills are pretty much in line, but they need one bill, and the idea that you're going to maybe within the next year come up with a replacement sounds insane to me.
	And Senator Rand Paul of the great state of Kentucky joins us.
	How are you, Senator?
	Hey, Sean.
	Thanks for having me.
	I mean, it's a little bewildering to me that we don't have a consensus plan at this late date.
	Why don't we have one?
	Well, you know, in some ways we do have a consensus plan.
	There are consensus ideas, helping individuals to save through health savings accounts, legalizing the form of all insurance sales, including inexpensive plans, and letting people group together in associations.
	Those were agreed to by probably 99.9% of Republicans who are elected in Congress.
	They just have tactically said, oh, well, we'll get around to it sometime.
	So I've taken the ball here and I've put them together into a bill.
	And about an hour ago, apparently the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, came forward and said, we can do them simultaneously.
	And that's what I've been saying all along.
	We have consensus.
	We already have the bills written.
	Let's put them together and let's vote on it.
	And let's be for something, not just against something.
	Let's be for something that will provide insurance to a lot of people at a very inexpensive price.
	I have been stopped by more people that obviously know I'm in news.
	And I'm supporting, I supported Donald Trump in the election, and I want this country to repeal and replace Obamacare.
	There are a lot of people afraid right now that somehow they think they're going to be kicked off their plan this year.
	Can you assure them that, in fact, that's not a part of anybody's strategy?
	I know that's a Democratic talking point, but that's not going to happen.
	No, our goal is to insure more people and at a cheaper price.
	Obamacare's disaster is it actually insured less people and it caused the prices to rise and that's why less people bought it.
	So in the individual insurance market, this is about 11 million people, about 6% of the whole insurance market.
	That's where the disaster lies.
	The premiums are going through the roof and they made the insurance policies too expensive for young, healthy people.
	So young, healthy people are not buying them because they say, you know what, when we get sick, we can just buy it after we get sick.
	That's what Obamacare says.
	So Obamacare set up the perfect storm, the perfect nightmare and, as a consequence, some companies like North Carolina BLUE Cross, lost $400 million last year in the individual market.
	So we've got to stop the bleeding and the way to do it is to legalize inexpensive insurance.
	Let insurance companies sell high deductible plans that are inexpensive, that young people will be attracted to.
	Then you get young people into the insurance market, which counterbalances the people who are sick.
	Let me explain this.
	I'm not sure if everybody fully, completely understands what you're talking about.
	Some of the more inexpensive plans that are out there, in other words, they're called catastrophic plans.
	Let's say you're young, you're in your 20s, early 30s, you're generally healthy and you maybe need a checkup every year or two years at that point in your life because you have?
	You're just generally healthy, you work out.
	You're not subject to what we experience here in old age, which which is a pain in the neck.
	But anyway, but you could buy a catastrophic plan with a fairly high deductible.
	That would mean that, God forbid you ever got cancer, God forbid you ever had a heart attack, God forbid you had a bad accident, you would be covered.
	But you're not paying for services that you're never going to need.
	In other words, because of your youth and vitality.
	You're exactly right, and you've described them well, Sean.
	But what's important to note is that Obamacare made those policies illegal.
	In America, it's illegal to buy a catastrophic plan now because Obama said he did not like those plans.
	He said they were inadequate, and he thought he knew better than everyone else.
	But when he made those illegal, he greatly increased the price of health insurance for young people.
	They quit buying it, and the insurance pools became full of sick people, and then the insurance companies are going bankrupt as a consequence.
	So you have to legalize freedom.
	You have to let people make their own choices, and you have to give them inexpensive choices.
	We can help them save.
	We can give them tax credits.
	We can give them health savings plans.
	And the health savings plans, we should let you buy your insurance out of that tax-deductible money.
	We should also let you pay for, you know, if you need a diet plan or you need an exercise plan or you want vitamins or you want some kind of other preventative care.
	Senator, you're calling me fat.
	I just heard you say, Hanity, you're fat.
	You need a diet plan.
	Is that what you're saying?
	I just think some people, Sean, some people might need this.
	But we do have a replacement plan.
	I'm going to insist that we vote on it the same day.
	There's no reason in the world we cannot have this together by the time.
	I don't want to delay repeal.
	I'm all for repeal immediately.
	As soon as we can get to repeal, let's do it.
	But we should vote on a replacement plan that involves freedom and the marketplace and expanding the number of people who can get anything.
	So there's really those three components that you talk about.
	They have these illegal plans, these catastrophic plans that are relatively inexpensive, but have a high rate of coverage.
	Again, for younger people in particular, they would be really, I think, appealing because you get a lot of coverage that if, God forbid, bad things were to happen to you, then you would be covered.
	But you pay a little bit of a deductible, maybe $5,000, $6,000, $7,000, $8,000.
	But you're banking on your own health and your own lifestyle choices and safety, for example.
	You don't drive fast.
	You don't drink and drive, certain decisions you make.
	And then that would be available for anybody.
	Healthcare savings accounts would be where you're putting money that is tax-deductible into your own account, and it would probably incentivize, I would think, getting a yearly checkup.
	And then if you don't use that money, that money builds up for future years in case, God forbid, you get sick or you get cancer or you have a heart attack.
	And then we fix one final thing.
	Nobody in America should have to be out there buying insurance by themselves.
	Everybody in America should be allowed to join with other people to buy their insurance.
	So if you're a mom-and-pop pest control business and there's only two of you, you and your spouse, people live in fear that their spouse or themselves will get cancer or get very sick and then be dropped or their insurance rates will go through the roof.
	If you join together with other people in an association, and if 100,000 people join together in an association, you have leverage to demand lower prices for your insurance, and you have leverage that says, you know what, we're not buying insurance if it can cancel us or raise our rates when we get sick.
	We want group insurance.
	This can all happen voluntarily if you will just let the plans develop by freeing them up from government requirements.
	Let me give you an example of this.
	There's a guy that we interview fairly regularly on the program.
	You should bring him into some of these hearings.
	His name is Dr. Josh Umber of Atlas MD out of Wichita, Kansas.
	And what he's done in his own community is that he and other doctors have created a co-op.
	And the co-op is you pay X number of dollars per person per year.
	And it's a very, very modest rate.
	And you get all the care that you need short of surgery or cancer treatment.
	In other words, you get all your preventative care.
	He'll take care of your blood pressure.
	He'll give you a stress test.
	He'll do all those things that most of us get.
	And then if you have to move on to a specialist, that's where maybe a catastrophic plan would kick in.
	But more importantly, he purchases his cooperative purchases directly from the pharmaceutical companies at ridiculously low rates.
	He dispenses the medicine directly to his patients.
	They save money on pharmaceuticals.
	They save money on doctor's visits.
	They have a doctor 24-7 on call available for them.
	And the patients love it.
	He's doing well financially, and it works for that community.
	Capitalism and freedom of choice works if we will let it work.
	All kinds of innovative solutions would happen.
	So you might get a doctor that provides for the first $10,000 worth of care, and then you get a very, very cheap policy above $10,000.
	But realize that 98% of the public never spends $10,000.
	Insurance companies make money because you're prepaying for all of this.
	So there are all kinds of innovative ways we can do this, but we've got to get Obamacare rules and regulations that prevent innovation from occurring.
	We have to get rid of those rules.
	Yeah, I've got to tell you.
	All right, let me ask you, why are they talking about raising the debt ceiling $9.5 trillion for the next 10 years?
	I thought Republicans were in charge of the House and Senate and spending now.
	What the hell is going on?
	Nothing disappoints me more.
	We're in charge of all three branches of government.
	We told the country if you put us in charge, you'd have conservative government.
	And the first thing they did out of the block was they introduced a budget that will add $9.7 trillion.
	Now, if they were on the phone here, they'd say, oh, we had to do that to repeal Obamacare.
	Well, my response is, why couldn't you have introduced a good budget, one that balances in the near future, and also repeal Obamacare?
	So I did just that.
	I introduced an amendment yesterday that would have replaced the Republican budget with a conservative budget that freezes spending for five years.
	Remember, we've talked about the Penny Plan.
	This is actually one step less than the Penny Plan, just simply a freeze.
	And I only got 14 of my colleagues to support it.
	Donald Trump told me in a lot of interviews that he supports the penny plan, and maybe not for defense, maybe not for non-discretionary spending, but certainly can stop the rate of increases or COLA increases for some of these programs.
	Well, the interesting thing is my budget would have let you cut it anywhere.
	You had to end up with an overall freeze.
	But if you thought military needed to go up $50 billion, you could have gotten rid of the corporate welfare and the Department of Commerce, and then you would have wound up with your freeze by increasing military by $50 billion and decreasing Department of Commerce by $50 billion.
	All kinds of ways you can get to a freeze, but only 14 of my colleagues thought that really the debt was important enough to put forward a conservative budget that actually balances.
	So they voted for a budget that never balances and will add $9.7 trillion to the debt.
	This is the Republican Congress that's doing this, the Congress that has the power of the purse.
	I know, for example, look, I know we need infrastructure spending, and I know that the incoming, the president-elect Donald Trump has talked about a trillion dollars.
	I know Democrats are going crazy about it.
	To them, it's another stimulus bill.
	Well, I'd like if we're going to spend that money, I think you need a pay-as-you-go system.
	And if we're going to, I don't think the country can afford another $10 trillion in debt.
	Why only 14 Republicans?
	It's hard to explain, but things get ingrained up here.
	The status quo is so strong.
	But on infrastructure spending, I have a plan that would get us more money for infrastructure.
	I would let all of the American profit, $2 trillion of American profit overseas, I'd let it come home at 5%, but I'd take that 5% tax and I would put it all into the road fund.
	And that would be a new source for building roads in our country.
	And I'd just leave it in place.
	5% is a low tax.
	Right now it's 35%.
	So you could actually lower a tax dramatically.
	So this will bring back the repatriated money that multinational corporations parked offshore because they would be taxed at such a high rate.
	Let me ask you this.
	You talked to Donald Trump.
	He agreed if we repeal, we should replace and do it the same day.
	At least you're quoted in an interview as doing that.
	Have you talked to him about the need to balance the budget?
	Because I talked to him at length during the campaign about it.
	And if you did, what did he say?
	You know, we didn't have that conversation directly, but we did talk, I have talked about with several of his cabinet members that the only way you can tackle the debt and not explode the debt is you do have to do entitlement reform.
	And at least his cabinet members that have come before me have acknowledged that we do have to look into entitlement reform.
	I think this is still an object for discussion.
	It's not as popular, obviously, as other things that are going to get done.
	And I think in the first hundred days, you're going to see regulatory repeal, repeal of regulations that are costing us jobs.
	And I'm hoping that we will see a tax bill in the first six months.
	But I'm hoping it does not get lost in the shuffle that the debt is a really serious problem for us.
	Isn't it pretty despicable what's on display in the United States Senate and the Senate Judiciary Committee today?
	And all the same old talking point that if you're a conservative, you've got to be a racist.
	And this characterization of Jeff Sessions is just, it just disgusts me.
	It's really insulting.
	And the people who know Jeff Sessions, you know, one of his former staffers is now the chief of staff for a congressman.
	He's the first African American to be a chief of staff for a Republican in the House.
	And they asked him about Jeff Sessions, and his points were that he never saw any of that, that he promoted people based on their talent and their merit.
	And I think it's just really unfair because nobody in our society wants to be called something you're not.
	And it is unacceptable to treat people based on their race or to be a racist.
	And I don't believe Jeff Sessions is.
	And I think it's really just sad that he has to spend time defending himself against scurrilous accusations like that.
	It's pathetic, but it's wholly predictable.
	Senator Paul, I like everything you're talking about here.
	And I hope, in fact, that we can get this done.
	Thanks for being with us.
	Thanks, Sean.
	All right, 800-941-Sean, our toll-free telephone number.
	If you want to be a part of the program, Barbara Streisand.
	Barbara, thank you for joining us.
	What did you think and feel when you watched Meryl Streep last night talk about a man who's going to be our president mocking someone's disability?
	I thought that she said what she said beautifully.
	And it's easy enough to see the video online of Trump mocking.
	You just showed it, actually.
	And I completely agree with Merrill.
	It was a heartbreaking moment and so beneath the dignity of the presidency, let alone any respectful person.
	I mean, what we need more in this world, I think, is kindness and common decency and what he did and how he reacts and how he needs the need to talk back and insult anybody who doesn't agree with him.
	And that's pretty disgraceful.
	What do you make of the critique that Meryl Streep made last night that you can push this thing and it becomes the norm?
	That it's like Daniel Patrick Monaghan, the senator once said, you define deviancy downward.
	This kind of behavior becomes the normal political conversation.
	Well, that's what it does.
	I mean, what's the signal to little children, you know, who watch television and see this is the behavior of the soon-to-be president of the United States, you know.
	Little girls were heartbroken when Hillary didn't get to be president.
	So I think it's what they see.
	Children will listen.
	I sang that in a song once, you know, and they will see and they will learn.
	And, you know, I'm in the middle of having my teeth cleaned.
	Chris, you caught me at a kind of disadvantage.
	I'm glad you're on the phone with us.
	When Donald Trump needed to find an attorney general, all he had to do was look to his alt-right.
	Republican Senator Jeff Sessions was a U.S. attorney in Alabama when then President Ronald Reagan nominated him for the federal court.
	But the appointment broke down at Sessions' 1986 confirmation hearing when allegations over his alleged racial remarks took center stage.
	Jeff Sessions is a man ahead of his time.
	He was alt-right when it was still just called racism.
	Thomas Figures, a black former assistant U.S. attorney in Alabama, testified Sessions called him boy, joked about the Ku Klux Klan.
	And warned him about the way he spoke to white people.
	That was that.
	But who is Jeff Sessions now?
	Session is still a racist.
	Jeff Session has shown both in his career as a U.S. attorney, but also in his career as a United States Senator, has been a hostility to the enforcement of civil rights, particularly in the area of voting rights.
	He's also opposed to same-sex marriage, Roe v. Wade, equal pay, the Violence Against Women Act, and universal background checks for gun purchases.
	Plus, he's voted to defund Planned Parenthood.
	Jeff Sessions for Attorney General.
	Even for Trump, this guy's extreme.
	All right, so there you have Barbara Streisand.
	Of course, she's going to defend Meryl Streep.
	Of course, that is the top priority of the liberal left.
	And then the Democratic.
	Oh, Jeff Sessions is so extreme.
	Are they going to condemn this MTV culture writer joking that Sessions had stolen his Asian American granddaughter from Toys R Us?
	You know, a lot happened today.
	I mean, you've got people dressed up in white sheets, and it just, it's right out of the old-style Democratic playbook.
	Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, and any other phobia you can talk about.
	Anyway, let's get to our phones as we say hi to Lewis the Liberal in Houston, Texas.
	KTRH, what's up, Lewis the Liberal?
	How are you, sir?
	Hey, Mr. Hannity, how are you doing?
	Long time no hear from.
	Yeah, what's going on?
	It's been a long time, Lewis.
	What's going on with you?
	You have a good year last year.
	I haven't heard from you in at least a year.
	Oh, it's been probably about four years.
	It's been, let's put it this way.
	The last four or five years have been rough for me.
	So for me, be able to be just in one position, one spot, to listen to, know what challenge you're going to be on and listen to you and call in has been practically impossible.
	Well, let me ask you a question.
	What's going on in your life?
	Can I help you out?
	What is the matter?
	Oh, Mr. Hannity, having health issues?
	No, no, no.
	economic.
	My issues were economic and I have to, let me put it this way.
	After 2000, if you recall back in 2008, we talked and you were trying to get me to go on to Michael Berry's show, et cetera.
	Well, what happened was due to our scheduling confusion, I wasn't able to be on the show.
	However, right after in 2009, because of the hope and change that President Obama promised, in the hopes of keeping my house in my cars, I had to change where I was working at.
	So I ended up having to start traveling across the country to keep my, to keep, just to keep the, just to keep things in perspective.
	Listen, life is very, very hard.
	You would not believe how many conversations I have with all these young kids that work for me about saving their money and being responsible and understanding that money equals freedom in their life.
	And you got to take advantage of the opportunities that come your way and not spend recklessly.
	So anyway, well, listen.
	Well, no, so basically what this boils down to is that I was working mostly local jobs here, but because of his possible – I work in the oil and gas industry, so you can do the math.
	Instead of having to be able to do a lot of work around here, I had to go on the road and start finding work because everyone was holding on to their money to determine which way the pendulum was going to swing with regard to his energy policies.
	And we've seen which way they went.
	So I had to stay on the road for about the last six, seven, eight years.
	Listen, that makes it really hard.
	I'm not disagreeing at all.
	But here's the good news.
	Because of the way the country voted, it would have been very different if Hillary won.
	I'm pretty confident that energy independence is a big part of the Trump agenda.
	I think a lot of this can be done by removing executive orders in terms of fracking, in terms of coal mining, in terms of drilling.
	And I think if we make a commitment, whether or not the Saudis try to bid down the price of a barrel of oil to drive us out of business, if we're still committed to energy independence, ultimately this is going to be a win-win where millions of Americans like yourself, you know, it's the lifeblood of our economy are going to be producing more oil, more energy than we've ever produced in our entire lives.
	And we'll probably have more natural gas available for our Western European allies and more.
	So just hang in there.
	Help is on the way.
	And I admire the fact that, okay, opportunities went away for you in Houston, but that didn't stop you.
	It made life harder.
	It made life more difficult.
	But you didn't whine and moan and complain.
	And you got out there and you found work wherever it was.
	I admire your stick-to-itiveness.
	I admire your strength.
	I admire your ability to survive.
	This world is hard.
	This world is tough.
	This world will knock you down to the ground.
	And as Rocky said to his son in Balboa, it's not how hard you get hit.
	It's how you get hit and you move forward.
	This is not an easy thing.
	My belief is that it's not how it's life, life, people look, life is easy.
	People make it hard.
	I disagree.
	I actually think life is hard.
	I think life is hard.
	I don't think life is easy.
	I think life is difficult.
	If you ever read the book, The Road Less Travel, that starts out with that line, life is difficult.
	Once you recognize that truth, it does make it easier because you're not expecting everything to get handed to you.
	Maybe you're absolutely right.
	But by this same token, like I said, I just, I believe, this leads me into my reason why I called concerning Senator Sessions.
	Senator Sessions, I don't believe he's racist.
	And the reason I don't believe he's racist is simple.
	He believes in the rule of law, as we all should as Americans.
	And I say that because if you were, I cannot sit up here and say, well, you know what?
	I know I was going 35 in a 30 mile an hour zone here, Mr. Officer.
	But guess what?
	I'm late for work.
	So that should be an excuse for you to go ahead and not give me a ticket.
	I can't say that because I broke the law.
	So for you to say, as an example, for the immigrationists, what they were talking about with regard to Senator Sessions, that he would want to deport all of these people and he would want to stop all of their services and such.
	Well, the whole thing is this.
	It's not a problem for you being here.
	It's a problem for the way you came in.
	You broke the law.
	If I were, I could not go into Spain and just sneak in and stay there and they not have an issue with me being there.
	The same thing with Germany.
	And the same thing with our Mexican government, our Mexican neighbors.
	Same thing with Canada.
	It is interesting.
	I'm going to let you go because I got a lot of people waiting on the line here.
	You know, all this talk, well, Donald Trump asked for appropriations to build the wall.
	Last night on TV, I played the cut where I asked one of them many times.
	I would ask Donald Trump, sort of the Trump Town Hall Archives of the Sean Hannity show.
	And I said, well, you know they're not going to write you a check.
	And he said, yeah, I know that.
	But when we negotiate new trade deals and we do A, B, and C, they're going to more than pay for that wall because we'll have much better deals.
	Anyway, now Mexican's government announced today that they want to begin negotiations with Trump as soon as possible on trade immigration and the construction of Trump's border wall.
	And the thud you probably heard is poor Vincente Fox keeling over over the holidays, saying, We're not paying for that blanking wall.
	Anyway, Mexico's new foreign relations secretary said that his country isn't just willing to negotiate changes to NAFTA.
	It wants to start talks as soon as possible.
	And he said there's enormous uncertainty.
	What's happening is Donald Trump, by telling the business community that he is going to create a better business environment, is resulting in all of these companies now willing to stay here.
	Anyway, I digress.
	Back to our busy telephones.
	Lewis, the liberal.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Let's go to who's there?
	Nina is in Sarasota, Florida.
	How are you, Nina?
	Glad you called.
	Hi, how are you doing, Sean?
	Happy New Year.
	Happy New Year to you.
	I'm calling in regards to Jeff Sessions' confirmation hearing.
	And you just touched on it briefly before the prior call with the MTV News tweet that went out.
	This was just so, I was just taken back because here we have these people standing outside.
	We have a confirmation hearing going on for Jeff Session, and they are accusing him of being a racist.
	And then you have this guy from MTV News, and nobody watches MTV News.
	I know that.
	But you know who does?
	Our children do, unfortunately.
	And they're the ones that are most impressionable.
	They're the ones that are picking up on all this racism and this anti-Trump stuff.
	And they're the future of our country.
	And I just, I find this extremely appalling that this man, what's his name?
	Ari Madison, could actually put out a tweet with a picture of Mr. Jeff Sessions sitting there with his innocent, beautiful grandbaby, regardless of what her race is, and to call her a prop.
	In his second post, first he said, return her to Toys Ross, but then he called her a prop, that he was using her as a prop.
	I mean, can you imagine?
	Only a liberal can do this.
	Us conservatives, we would never say something like that.
	We would never be allowed to say something like that.
	You know, and it's funny when you say this, because liberals have this so-called monopoly on compassion.
	If Jeff Sessions had ever said it, I mean, it would be remarkable the amount of coverage it would have.
	But this happens all the time.
	Just think back, Joe Biden.
	I mean, here's the first African American.
	It's a storybook, man.
	He's clean.
	We got the first articulate sort of mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and nice looking guy.
	I mean, that's a storybook.
	Articulate, bright, clean, nice-looking guy.
	This is like a storybook fantasy.
	Wow.
	Is that not racist?
	I mean, it just, I can't imagine a Republican saying that ever and getting away with it.
	And this is the party that claims that the masses love them, that they are the party of compassion.
	And conservatives are racist and sexist and homophobic, Islamophobic, and xenophobic.
	It's all not true.
	It's a myth.
	It's a lie.
	It's a talking point.
	It's used every election year.
	Anyway, John in upstate New York.
	John, hi, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Hey, Sean, thanks for taking my call.
	How are you doing today?
	I'm good.
	How are you?
	I'm great.
	Thanks.
	Hey, Sean, I enjoyed hearing you debate Chris Hahn yesterday.
	Actually, I've enjoyed seeing him over the years on Fox as I went to college with Chris and debated him quite extensively in Professor Goldstein's class.
	We had a couple political science classes together in Albany.
	And it's interesting to me that all these years later, you know, over 25 years later, he's still just as misguided as he was then, even if he is still just as passionate.
	But it's unbelievable to me that he hasn't learned anything.
	Well, you know, there are just some people that are just so ideological and political.
	You know, I don't have a problem admitting that Republicans are weak.
	Republicans are feckless.
	Republicans have been visionless.
	Republicans are lost.
	Republicans have disappointed so many people that Republicans have lost their way.
	My hope for Donald Trump is I know he's going up against not only a Democratic and media establishment, but also a Republican establishment that is gonna, they're gonna cower.
	They're gonna buckle.
	They're gonna wanna.
	And it's gonna be Trump that holds them up, I hope.
	When you don't vote, you let another church explode.
	When you don't vote, you allow another cross to burn.
	When you don't vote, you let another assault wound a brother or sister.
	When you don't vote, you let the Republicans continue to cut school lunches and hit start.
	I mean, you got the first sort of mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and nice looking guy.
	I don't feel no ways tired.
	I come too far from where I started from.
	Nobody told me that the road would be easy.
	You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.
	I'm not joking.
	I'm actually old enough to remember the good old days, and they weren't all that good in many ways.
	That message, where I'll give you America great again, is if you're a white southerner, you know exactly what it means, don't you?
	Mitt Romney, he's speaking to a population of this, a segment of the population who does not like to see people other than a white man in the White House or in any other elected position.
	I don't know how anyone of Hispanic heritage could be a Republican.
	Okay?
	Do I need to say more?
	Romney wants to let the, he said the first hundred days, he's going to let the big banks once again write their own rules.
	Unchain Wall Street.
	They're going to put you all back in chains.
	Don't tell me we live in a colorblind society.
	The Republicans know that there is the wrong agenda for African Americans.
	That's why they don't even want to count you in the census.
	They're doing everything they can to stop black people, Latinos, poor people, young people, people with disabilities from voting.
	It's a blast from the Jim Crow past.
	I thought we had won that battle back in the 1960s.
	No, I think that they played the race card on me.
	And we now know from memos from the campaign and everything that they planned to do it all along.
	On June 7th, 1998, in Texas, my father was killed.
	He was beaten, chained, and then dragged three miles to his death, all because he was black.
	So when Governor George W. Bush refused to support hate crimes legislation, it was like my father was killed all over again.
	Call George W. Bush and tell him to support hate crimes legislation.
	We won't be dragged away from our future.
	Why am I being taken out of here?
	This man is evil.
	You're evil.
	White people don't get arrested.
	Wait a minute.
	White people did.
	I'm a white...
	I'm Bud as attorney general.
	I just wanted to see if they were still listening.
	Refuse the United States.
	I think they're on the fence about Gitmo, but I'm not sure.
	Does not feel good.
	This old fascist regime needs to be stopped before they start.
	Use fascism.
	Okay.
	You're familiar with Canada.
	We are the people of America.
	You have to please God against breakthrough legislation that would keep my economy together.
	You are not a church.
	You are supported by hate groups that are not being trying to punish racism.
	You are not a good attorney general.
	All right, news roundup and information overload hour here on the Sean Hannity show.
	We'll get to your calls at the bottom of this hour, 800-941-Sean.
	Those were at the end some of the sounds of what happened at the Jeff Sessions confirmation hearings from earlier today and leading up to that, a history that has become all too familiar.
	And that is a Democratic Party that is void of ideas consistently, constantly, reflexively, almost hypnotically, with their bumper stickers, their slogans, and their mean-spirited attacks that Republicans and conservatives are racist.
	If you like Republicans, black churches are going to burn, the Democratic Party in Missouri said in a radio ad in 98.
	They're going to put you all back in change, Joe Chains Joe Biden said.
	Republicans have the wrong agenda for African Americans.
	They don't even want to count you in the census.
	A blast from the Jim Crow past.
	James Byrd, it's like my father was killed all over again because George Bush didn't support hate crimes legislation, but he did support the death penalty for the people responsible for the evil, horrific dragging death of this man, James Byrd.
	It is typical.
	It is predictable.
	It is repugnant.
	And it's on display for all the world to see.
	Pastor Darrell Scott, founder and senior pastor of the New Spirit Revival Center, Pastor Charles Christian Adams, or the Reverend Charles Christian Adams, presiding pastor of Hartford Memorial Baptist Church in Detroit, Michigan.
	Welcome both of you to the program.
	Pastor, I'll ask you, Adams, do you find any of what you just heard repugnant and untrue?
	I mean, I assume as a pastor, you believe the truth shall set us free, right?
	Absolutely.
	And the truth is that, and the truth is, is that Republicans are not racist.
	Isn't that true, sir?
	Absolutely.
	I don't think that they are fundamentally racist.
	No, I know many African-American Republicans.
	So, when the Democratic Party says if you elect Republicans, black churches are going to burn, or Joe Biden says they're going to put you all back in chains, and when Al Gore says they don't want to count you in the census, and Hillary Clinton says this is a blast from the Jim Crow past, and they're trying to compare Jeff Sessions, who actually put Klan members in jail as a Klansman, it's evil.
	Isn't that one of the big ten?
	Thou shalt not bear false witness.
	Isn't that one of the big ten?
	Well, Sean, the important thing is to remember the context in which these comments were made.
	And as they relate to Jeff Sessions, it's simply his past that they are.
	Well, specifically, you have to, if you're going to make that accusation, specifically, some of the mistakes that he has made.
	Well, tell me what the mistakes are.
	Oh, can you please tell me specifically?
	What are you talking about?
	Well, I'm talking about in 1985 when he tried to prosecute the voter fraud case in Alabama, in which it was not successful, but he still sticks by it.
	He says that, you know, he'd prosecute it today just like he prosecuted it then.
	So somehow, even though he put Klan members in jail, fought on multiple occasions, multiple occasions, for civil rights and voting rights, and voted, you know, in all these instances, I mean, I have a whole list of them here, delivering for all the people in this country, African Americans included.
	So even though he tried to fight for voting rights for all, you somehow hold it against him that he didn't win a case?
	Yeah, but he targeted specifically the African Americans and their behavior around.
	Just the opposite is true.
	Nobody else, though, then, and that's what the concern is as far as his application of the law.
	Well, I'm trying to understand your logic here because, you know, he was the top civil rights enforcement case.
	He was the one that in 1981 worked with the Department of Justice, the FBI, and to solve the murder of a 19-year-old African American, Michael Donald, and his U.S. Attorney's Office prosecutor Tiger Knowles as an accomplice.
	And he is spending the rest of his life in prison.
	And he shifted the case of the KKK murderer, Henry Hayes, to a state court where he got the death penalty.
	And it's the same Jeff Sessions who successfully prosecuted the Alabama Ku Klux Klan great titan Jack Hayes.
	And it was Jeff Sessions that brought the first lawsuit in the history of the Department of Justice to stop the suppression of African-American voting rights in the U.S. versus Koenich County.
	The Department of Justice Civil Rights Division, along with Sessions, sued that county and white officials.
	And by the way, they had to settle.
	And by the way, he won.
	So I ask you, Pastor Darrell Scott.
	Listen, this race card is being played out, is being overused to the point that all of America is sick of it.
	And they have a number of allegations without any real proof.
	Will anyone know the truth?
	The Democrats are the ones that demonstrate straight racism.
	The Clintons privatized prisons that enabled harshest suits.
	Then they enabled harshest sentences to bring black folks to heel in prison after they privatized them.
	You know, what I'm seeing is that the Republican Party is being profiled by the party that claims to embrace diversity.
	And to be against profiling, we're trying to profile all Republicans as racist.
	But when you go down and begin once again to examine Jeff Sessions' past, he voted for the extension of the Civil Rights Act.
	He voted to confirm Eric Holder as the first black attorney general.
	He co-sponsored legislation to bring possession for crack cocaine more in line with the penalty for possession of powdered cocaine.
	He spearheaded efforts to award Rosa Parks to Alabama.
	She was an Alabama native.
	He wanted her to get the congressional gold medal.
	He even campaigned against George Wallace, the face of racism for the Democratic Party in Alabama when he was younger.
	Now, from what I understand, then these guys must be schizoid racists or something.
	Because, you know, one minute you guys claim they're racist, and then on another minute, we see all of these instances where they championed a campaign for civil rights.
	You're either a racist or you are.
	Either he is or he isn't.
	And if he is, then he would demonstrate all of the symptoms of racism when, in fact, he doesn't.
	It seems as if the Democrats, that's all the Democrats have.
	They don't have anything tangible or substantive to deny these appointments, to deny these votes.
	So they simply say, don't vote for him.
	Don't take him.
	Don't do anything.
	Why?
	Because he's a racist.
	What is your reaction, Pat?
	Revan?
	I mean, we have a lot of examples.
	I don't think Jeff Sessions is a friend of Eric Holder.
	And I think he voted for him.
	Wait a minute.
	He voted for him.
	If he hated black people, then he would not vote for a black person.
	He would have voted against it.
	But Congress has stood as an obstructionist to Barack Obama's policies, and they stood within Eric Holder's term as a constant threat to what they were trying to accomplish.
	Is the Congressional Black Congress a racist organization?
	Because the CBC, the Congressional Black Caucus.
	Donald Trump has been in office one day and they've already pledged to oppose whatever he tried to do.
	Now, are they doing that because he's white?
	Yes.
	But you know what?
	You said if and they have not pledged to obstruct with the same vigor President-elect Trump as Congress obstructed President Barack Obama.
	It was unprecedented, the level of obstruction that we saw under President Barack Obama.
	It was unprecedented.
	All right, let me ask this question.
	I want to ask this important question.
	That's racist.
	Can you name any statistic, Pastor Adams, any one thing, any one economic telltale sign that shows that in the eight years Obama's been president, that black Americans are better off because we have millions of more black Americans, a 20% increase of black Americans out of the labor force.
	We have a massive increase of black Americans on food stamps and in poverty.
	Tell me where Barack Obama's agendas help black America.
	Well, you know, I said it before that the poverty rate.
	Give me a specific.
	Give me one specific measure where black Americans are better off.
	Obama's been president eight years.
	I'm going to tell you, the poverty rate under President Barack Obama was continued to shrink.
	No, we have 8 million more.
	Excuse me, sir.
	We have 8 million more Americans on poverty since Obama's been elected.
	Yes, but it was growing at a higher rate under President George Bush.
	And he continued.
	Well, that's not true.
	So 8 million more Americans in poverty is a success for you.
	13 million more Americans on food stamps is a success for you.
	The lowest labor participation rate, 95 million Americans out of the labor force, is successful to you.
	Yeah, but the question is, what was it before Barack Obama was elected?
	I'm giving you the numbers since Obama's been in office.
	He accumulated more debt than all 43 presidents combined.
	That's success to you?
	Well, he had to reinvest in the infrastructure of the United States.
	Meanwhile, it took money.
	It took money to stem the tide of the political, I mean, of the economic downturn that we had taken under Bush.
	But no, no, no, no.
	The downturn that was taken under Bush was simply the House of Guards that collapsed, that was built by the Clintons.
	The Clintons were in control when the banks were deregulated, and the sub-prime lending was enacted.
	It was a House of Cards built under Clinton that collapsed under Bush.
	All right, I got to leave it there.
	Thank you both for being with us when we come back wide open telephones.
	Toll-free are numbers 800-941.
	Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
	High 25 till the top of the hour.
	All right, let's go to our busy telephones.
	We'll start with Kate.
	She's in Houston.
	Kate, hi, how are you?
	And welcome to the program.
	Hey, Sean, how are you?
	I'm good.
	Happy New Year to you, and thanks for listening to KTRH.
	Happy New Year to you.
	I just want to thank you so much for being so kind to send me my awesome Trump pen.
	I love it so much.
	You know what?
	I have people mad that they didn't get them.
	I mean, how many did we buy?
	2,000 of them.
	You know, the Trump pen.
	Well, they're worth it.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	Ready?
	Look, I'm really rich.
	Hang on.
	I will build a great, great mall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that world.
	By the way, I love it.
	There's some controversy over there.
	Yeah, I know.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	I have a video of my four-year-old for you.
	I'm going to send it to you because you're going to love it.
	She gets to the point where he says, well, politicians are stupid.
	Politicians are stupid.
	And she flips out because she's like, on my word.
	He said a bad word.
	Oh, that's so.
	That's so funny.
	We love it.
	You know what?
	It's so funny.
	And I was glad to get him.
	And by the way, I bought them before he won the election.
	How do you like that?
	I know.
	So what's on your mind now?
	I've got him on the show.
	And we were like, we have that.
	We have to have that.
	We have to fund it.
	I know.
	I'm so thankful.
	I think we had like 100,000 plus requests.
	It was crazy.
	Well, I know, because they're collector's items now.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm never giving that thing away.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So, and that also because it's from you, you know, it's had your golden touch.
	So I think we'd be going anywhere from it.
	Thank you.
	So today we're going to talk about, with your help here, Trump's media farsities.
	I just made that word up.
	You like it?
	I like it.
	Tell me why.
	All right.
	So number one, we're going to talk about Putin because of your awesome interview that you did with Assange, which we were just glued to the TV, completely riveted.
	I mean, back in 2000, you don't know this about me.
	My degree was post-Soviet East European Studies.
	That's my degree.
	I studied that in college.
	So Putin has been on my radar since back in 2000 when he took power.
	And then, you know, we've watched him sort of get the machinations of how he's continued to keep this power.
	And now the whole media is, oh, you know, he's just, this is something that everyone's been colluding.
	The Trump camp has colluded to get him into power and they're best friends.
	And all he can do is flatter him.
	You know, that's just the biggest varsity ever.
	And you and I know that this is because Trump can read people.
	Trump knows his number.
	He wants to have an advantageous relationship with somebody.
	He doesn't want to create another Cold War, but he's not stupid.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Listen, I think the world will respect him more, and the world fearing and respecting America is better for the world.
	Because that means, look, there's this, fear is a great motivator in life.
	Like, for example, one of the things in the last five years of my life is I've worked hard on learning self-defense.
	Now, Linda and Lauren and Jason and Ethan and sweet baby James, they kind of make fun of me.
	And my son used to make fun of me until I showed him some moves and he's not making fun like he used to anymore.
	Now he thinks you're a ninja.
	Well, I don't think I'm a ninja, but it's a very, very violent art that I'm learning.
	It's a combination.
	I love body combat.
	I do that other things.
	It's full body contact.
	It's everything from grappling to boxing to Krab Maga to Kempo to jujitsu.
	But basically, how to win a street fight.
	There's blade and weapon training involved in this and gun training involved in this.
	And it's a lot of repetition.
	And it basically is how to win a fight in 30 seconds and break a lot of bones.
	Right.
	Well, I mean, and the thing about Trump is that he has the ability to win a verbal fight here.
	You know, he knows, looking into the future, that this is not, it is not an East-West world anymore.
	We are a North-South world.
	We need to be able to have advantageous relationships.
	It is, like you were saying, it's bad for the world to be able to continue to pick fights with Russia.
	We don't want to do that.
	And I just have to say, I'm so proud of you.
	I know you say you're not a journalist, blah, blah, blah.
	But you are a journalist of the A-plus category.
	You went 22 hours back and scores on this plane.
	You interviewed the source of what has been going on for the past three weeks as one of the biggest media farsities about this whole stupid thing with Russia.
	You had every question point blank answered completely, and yet people are still trying to pull that interview apart.
	It's hilarious to me.
	And then I'm also informing everybody of every government agency that has been hacked.
	And then I'm pointing out that in the Podesta case, it's because he fell for a stupid phishing scam.
	It's not because we were hacked anyway.
	And the fact that WikiLeaks released it is their stupid fault.
	It's not, you know, there's some reality here.
	And some people say, well, Hannity's friends with Putin.
	I don't trust him as far as I can throw.
	That's my word.
	I mean, it's crazy.
	All right.
	Well, listen, God bless you, Kate.
	You made my day.
	And I think.
	You'll always make mine, Sean.
	I appreciate it.
	Listen, I want to say to all my irredeemable, deplorable friends out here, like Kate and Houston, we've got a big fight ahead of us.
	We have a major battle on every front.
	The Supreme Court, the economy, tax cuts, repatriation, repealing, replacing Obamacare, energy, independence.
	I love Ted Cruz's proposal for term limits.
	Great idea.
	Education, back to the states, building the wall, vetting refugees.
	There's going to be a fight.
	You can't walk away.
	Trump won the election.
	Oh, okay, everything.
	He's going to snap his fingers and it's going to be fixed.
	No, every one of these issues will be a major fight.
	And your help and your support and the pressure you're going to put on your congressmen and women and women and senators are going to be crucial.
	All right, my good friend Tavares in Greenville, North Carolina.
	What are you whining about today?
	Let me get to my point, Sean, about you WikiLeaking all over yourself in this interview.
	Did you think of that all yourself?
	That's sort of like the best line Trump had in one of the debates is when he goes, you're going to use honesty collectively.
	I'm not WikiLeaking.
	I'm not WikiLeaking over anything.
	All I did was do an interview.
	I did an interview.
	You already did.
	Sean, you apologized to a criminal.
	I didn't apologize to anybody.
	I asked him questions.
	Yes, you did.
	You said, I apologize to you.
	I said about you.
	No, no, no.
	Let me tell you, because I believe he's done a good service for this country.
	He's a criminal.
	Excuse me.
	Wait a minute.
	Listen, I know more about WikiLeaks than you do.
	But the fact that he exposes America's cybersecurity weaknesses, if you look at it the right way, it's a favor.
	Now we can fix it.
	Now we can be cybersecure.
	Number two, he also exposed a level of corruption that not even liberal Tavares in Greenville, North Carolina, that's racing around the country in his 18-wheeler day in and day out.
	Even you should be glad that we found out how corrupt John Podesta is.
	And nobody hacked into John Podesta.
	He gave it up himself through a phishing scam because he's an idiot.
	Can I, okay.
	Sean, did Julian Assange crack into the Pentagon or Defense?
	Was he given access when he did that, when he was 16 years old?
	No, I'm saying if a 16-year-old...
	No, listen, listen.
	Is he a criminal?
	Listen, that's against the law, yeah.
	But that doesn't, but that's a criminal.
	But you're missing my big broader point here.
	Look, I don't trust criminals.
	Okay, you need to follow the bouncing ball here.
	The Department of Defense, the White House, Department of State, the Department of Office of Personnel, China hacked 23 million people there.
	And all of this happens since 2009, and nobody in Washington fixes it, then at what point does it become our fault for being stupid?
	We've been stupid ever since government was established.
	Okay, so then stop.
	So then at some point, you've got to say, we've known all these hacking incidents occurred.
	They didn't fix it.
	And now their only concern is to use this one incident where John Podesta is an idiot to delegitimize Trump.
	If they really cared about hacking, they would have, since 10 years ago, they would have secured our emails and secured our top secret documents.
	They didn't do a thing.
	And the only reason you're hearing about it now is for pure political purposes.
	Checkmate.
	Don't get mad at me.
	Check me.
	Checkmate.
	Don't get mad at me because I'm not wiki leaking on myself like you'd be wiki.
	I'm not a conservative, the right.
	I refuse to wikiko.
	So let me ask you a question.
	So I send you to college, and this is the thanks I get.
	Didn't I send you to college?
	I love you.
	Amen.
	Didn't I pay out of my own pocket for you to go to college?
	You did.
	So I paid.
	Because why did I do that?
	Because I wanted you to have a better life.
	Why?
	So you can call in and attack me?
	No, you did that because you love me.
	No, I don't.
	I don't love you.
	I'm your best friend.
	I took Big Baby James's spot.
	And now I got to worry about you being best friends with Donald Trump.
	I'm not going to take this anymore, Sean.
	You can't put me at second fiddle to anybody.
	I still love you.
	Listen, you go WikiLeak and I will not WikiLeaks.
	I'll handle myself.
	I'll handle the cybersecurity issues that we're facing.
	Stop wiki leaking on yourself, Sean.
	I love you, Tavares.
	God bless you.
	Just in time, our friend from Silver Spring, Maryland, Justin.
	Now, Justin, by the way, has been a longtime caller.
	He goes to bars and he meets women and he goes, Hi, how are you?
	My name's Justin.
	I'm just in time to save your life and show you the romance you've been dreaming of.
	True or false?
	You do that, don't you?
	I have never done that.
	That would be cheesy.
	Except when I have seen you slide up to the bar and go, I'm going to hennetize you, baby.
	Happy New Year.
	Happy New Year.
	Happy New Year, man.
	What's going on?
	But Sean, I got to tell you.
	What's up?
	There is a situation.
	The interview that you did with Assange, absolutely fantastic.
	But let me tell you about, I heard that Joe Scarborough had made some comments about you and this interview, and there's supposed to be some special love affair that you've got going on.
	Let me tell you, Joe Scarborough does not maintain strict conservative principles.
	He seems as though he is just whooshy-washy.
	He's going back and forth.
	And I really don't appreciate him not being true.
	He should say what he means, means what he says.
	But here is the part that's real important.
	If he was all that concerned, or any of the other networks, why didn't they pursue an interview with this man that they have concerns with?
	Does that make sense to you?
	Listen, I think this is Repulsive Joe.
	First, nobody watches a show.
	His radio show flopped.
	You know, Repulsive Joe flips and flops and flails.
	He is the poster child of what it is to be an establishment person.
	He can't be.
	Look, if he's proud to work at MSNBC, then why is he always begging for jobs elsewhere?
	And Joe, by the way.
	Oh, my goodness.
	You didn't just drop some information.
	Oh, yeah.
	Listen, I dropped a lot.
	Listen, I dropped that bomb on Twitter.
	And by the way, by the way, I have at least 10 more bombs in my, verbal bombs, of course I'm talking about, 10 more verbal, well, let's just say, attacks that I have ready for Joe if he wants to keep this going.
	If Joe wants to keep this going, if he wants to go there, I'll go there.
	Well, you know what?
	What I'd like for you to do, I'm going to tell you this.
	This is very important now.
	I want you, and I'm going to hold your feet to the fire.
	Yes, sir.
	If Trump messes up, and if he doesn't do what he says, if he flip-flops and if he does something, I am going to call you out if you don't bust him.
	Because this is an opportunity for him to do what he says.
	And so if not, then he would have just simply been a con man the way other people have accused him of being.
	Listen, Mike Pence said the other day before the Republican caucus, this is a time for promise keeping.
	Here are Donald Trump's promises that I want kept.
	I want originalists on the Supreme Court.
	I want refugees vetted.
	I want the wall built.
	And by the way, he did say to me that, no, Mexico's not going to give me a check, Mexico, but there will be a price for them to pay.
	So I'm not worried about that.
	I do want the corporate rate lowered, like he said.
	I do want the repatriation opportunity given.
	I do want healthcare savings accounts in Obamacare repealed.
	I want executive orders repealed.
	I want energy independence advanced in the next four years.
	And I want education sent back to the states.
	If he doesn't follow through on those promises, I promise you, I will call him out.
	You have my word of honor, okay?
	I love it.
	I appreciate it.
	And I'm going to only tell you one more thing.
	I still have and still use the soda stream that you sent me.
	Oh, man, that goes back a ways.
	It's good, isn't it?
	I loved it.
	It absolutely is.
	And so, you know what?
	I'm going to say thank you.
	Happy to be here.
	God bless you.
	Getting ready.
	I'm just in time to change your world.
	That would be a good line at a bar.
	Jason, to use that at Coyote Ugly.
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