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Man, it is good to be back here, and I love being in New York on a holiday because you basically can get anywhere in the city on time, which, unless you have a scooter, I know some of us have scooters.
You can't get anywhere because of traffic, because of the way Bloomberg and De Blasio have just messed up this city as far as traffic goes for whatever reason.
Which is going to lead me straight in to my opening remarks and something that I know a lot of people out there that have my type of background.
I'm sure a lot of you know, and I'm sure all the team guys out there are getting sick of me saying this every time I'm on the radio.
But for those of you that don't know who I am, I'm not a congressman.
I'm not a senator.
I didn't graduate Harvard or go to Harvard and quit and become a billionaire.
I didn't do any of those things.
I grew up in Arkansas up in the Ozarks, same place where the Beverly Hillbellies came from, and graduated from the University of Arkansas, Little Rock.
And after travels to California and LA and all these experiences out there, I decided to buckle down and graduate college and went into the Navy, became a Navy SEAL officer, and got out of there, served in the Federal Air Marshal Program.
Was flying September 11th, 2002, when there really wasn't a whole lot going on.
We had a lot of threats, but nothing really happened.
I went from there and did contract work all over the country with an incredible company that doesn't exist anymore, unfortunately, and was full of SEALs and special forces operators and was just a magnificent place to work back in the day.
We were the ones telling the government back in 2003, four, and five that malls.
Now, listen to this and tell me if this doesn't sound familiar now with what you're hearing of attacks overseas, malls, stadiums and arenas, special events, restaurants, entertainment industry, or theaters.
We were seeing all these places as soft targets.
And we're starting to look away from the big, huge, brilliant attacks like, and I don't say brilliant is ingenious, but brilliant is in big and just the type of attack that Al-Qaeda wanted to get out there and make everybody see their power and their name.
Those attacks were going away because we realized back then, doing all these threat assessments on these soft targets, that there was only a limited amount of resources and logistics that these bad guys had to get out there and do these big type of attacks.
We were predicting more use of guns, more use of knives, cars, trucks.
And so here you have it, this many years later, 10 years later, where this stuff is starting to come to fruition because they realize getting that stuff into the country logistically is much easier because it's really already here.
The guns, the trucks, the cars, the knives.
It's much more difficult to fly planes into buildings and to do these huge attacks and gigantic explosions.
It's much more difficult.
And so we were screaming back then.
Then I moved into the FBI here in New York.
On the criminal side, saw all kinds of politics involved with the way that we do things in the FBI and the incompetence at the top levels of leadership in the government and the FBI.
I also saw leading the special events management unit as the coordinator here in New York City.
In 2010, coordinated the security for the FBI and the NYPD.
I didn't do the NYPD.
I coordinated with the NYPD.
And we saw the same things, the same type of threats, the same type of potential damage that could have been done to the city and to Times Square.
But here's the thing that has permeated all the things that I have done in my life, all these different areas where I've operated and sought to make things happen.
This is the biggest thing.
And this is really, really, I think, what we need to concentrate in 2017 as the American citizenry on pushing out.
This was the biggest threat, the biggest hindrance, the biggest problem I've always had in taking my expertise and the expertise of the men and women around me, the people who were on the ground.
It wasn't the bad guy.
It wasn't the terrorists out there, the attackers.
It's the academics.
The academics, the PhDs, the people who have spent pretty much their entire young lives or sometimes young into middle-age lives in school, studying and learning.
Now, I'm not putting down college by any means.
Go to college, get your education.
But don't think just because you get a college education that you know more than the people who go out and actually do the work.
And that's the problem that we're having.
And that was a culmination of what we saw in 2016.
I have to say that Donald Trump, although he's bragged a lot about his education, he's got a good education.
He's a guy who's actually gone out and done some operational things.
He's built buildings.
He's rescued, you know, the ice rink here in New York.
He's, you know, branded, built a brand, learned what worked and what didn't, had failures and then succeeded.
Came back from it, used the government because the government put things out there for him to use.
He used the Democratic and the Republican parties, the establishments.
Both private companies don't forget.
And so here's the deal.
I started reflecting on these academics and how much pain and agony they have caused America because it went from, you know, back in the day, you weren't just an academic.
Most people served like in World War II.
Yeah, they went to college, but they also served.
At one point, Columbia University here in New York City, which is one of the most liberal schools that there are now, was specifically for returning veterans to get education.
That's no longer popular there.
Same thing with Harvard.
So it's time for academics to take a step back and allow operators to come in.
Let's make it popular again.
Let's make it the right thing again for not just academics, but people who have operational experience and expertise to come in and start saying, this is what's going to work.
This is what's effective.
Both the Clinton administration back when Bill Clinton was in, that actually started it as far as I'm concerned.
It progressed through the Bush era where the people that, the academics that got into place during the Clinton era were not pushed out.
That swamp was not drained.
It got worse in the Bush era.
It got even worse and doubled down during the Obama administration, and we're seeing the ramifications of that now.
Had Clinton got back into office, it would have been disastrous because as we've seen, Ben Rhodes, he's a speechwriter, slash now national security advisor.
Susan Rice, she has no operational experience.
Just went around going to schools.
Obama himself had no real expertise or experience with the exception of being an elitist.
The Clintons were no different.
Even Hillary Clinton tried to be a lawyer, and that only lasted a short period of time before she jumped into politics because she realized she was terrible at being a lawyer.
The Gores, no different.
Most of Congress, both the Senate and Republic and the House of Representatives, Democrats and Republicans, have little to no experience operationally in the military and law enforcement, even in business.
The staffers, there's a lot of great people in the staff, in the Senate and Congress.
They're really the ones who do majority of the work.
But unfortunately, even they, mostly, are academics with little or no experience whatsoever.
The media is no different.
Media is made up of tons of people who have a little bit of school.
They learned a thing called journalism, which is a dying profession, and now has little, if any, difference between what we used to deem the tabloids.
It's all media is tabloid now.
And they have zero experience in real life.
Music industry, same way.
Little education, no experience.
They just know how to manipulate people's feelings.
That's about it.
And we've got to get away from this.
Perhaps, perhaps, next to the academics, the other thing that is just almost as bad and destructive to this country are the executives that, like in the FBI, who climb their way to the top and do little operating.
They do little to really craft their skill set and whatever it is that they are supposed to be doing in that career field.
And they check boxes and get to the top.
Meanwhile, there's other people who have been operating for 13, 14 years, sometimes 20 years.
And they're not recognized because they're busy honing their skill set.
They're busy making a difference, doing the work, the investigations, operating in the field, doing the things that they should do to be the best that they can be.
But their opinions matter the least to these academics, and they matter even less to these executives who think that they know what is best as they ride their chairs in their cubicles or their offices at the top of all these federal agencies.
And perhaps this is the best one.
Perhaps the worst.
This is our future that we've got to get away from.
The only thing worse than an academic overstepping their boundaries of knowledge or a narcissistic executive that skipped learning their craft to get to the top, the only thing worse than that right now that's more of a threat to this country is a communist-thinking, uneducated, and inexperienced millennial who just thinks that they should just be given the job.
Just trust me, just give me the promotion.
Notice me, notice me, notice me.
Reminds me of Stewie, I'm Family Guy, saying, Mom, mom, mom.
That's the way these millennials are.
They're little babies with little experience and huge, huge expectations of what they should have.
Now, why am I being so critical of all these people?
Because if you look at the country in the shape that we're in right now, we have a lot of hope in this country because we defeated what I believe to be one of our biggest national security threats, the Clintons.
And so now we got rid of the Clintons.
We still have the Communist Party, the Democratic Party.
We still have the establishment in the Republican Party and the Democratic Party.
They're not working for our benefit.
And unfortunately, Congress, the Senate, all the agencies in government, the Supreme Court,
every state and local agency and seat in government is by and large controlled by people who either have the academic mindset where they just cast away experience or they have the executive mindset where they start to believe they know more than other people just because they have a position.
So that's what the show is going to be wrapped around today.
We're going to talk about the reality of what the threats are to this country.
We're going to talk about these academics and really just the overall threat that they've had to this country, the overall damage that they proposed, and how we can change that.
It's time to wake up, America.
It's time for the operators to be back in charge.
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Some seem to believe that the U.S. friendship means the U.S. must accept any policy, regardless of our own interests, our own positions, our own words, our own principles, even after urging again and again that the policy must change.
Friends need to tell each other the hard truths, and friendships require mutual respect.
Israel's permanent representative to the United Nations, who does not support a two-state solution, said after the vote last week, quote, it was to be expected that Israel's greatest ally would act in accordance with the values that we share and veto this resolution.
I am compelled to respond today that the United States did, in fact, vote in accordance with our values, just as previous U.S. administrations have done at the Security Council before us.
They failed to recognize that this friend, the United States of America, that has done more to support Israel than any other country, this friend that has blocked countless efforts to delegitimize Israel, cannot be true to our own values or even the stated democratic values of Israel.
And we cannot properly defend and protect Israel if we allow a viable two-state solution to be destroyed before our own eyes.
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But now, joining me is a former Israeli ambassador to the UN and Director General of Israel, Israeli foreign minister, Dor, is it Dor or Dory?
Dory, Dory, excuse me, Dory Gold.
Dory, it's a pleasure to have you on here.
And I want to, that sound bite that I just played for you.
I don't know if you heard that.
That was John Kerry talking about friends, don't let friends, you know, whatever.
My question to you is, when we get started here, is, is John Kerry Israel's friend?
Because I don't think he is.
Well, you know, again, I have the diplomat in me, so I can't unleash the emotional feeling, but I can say that the Secretary of State spoke about, you know, common values and that what Israel's doing is inconsistent with, I guess, American values.
That was a little bit strange for us to hear here in Israel.
Sure.
First of all, we feel that we come from the same, we're cut from the same cloth as the United States, as the American people.
And we fight terrorism, but we make peace.
And I didn't hear enough from the Secretary of State about the way that the Palestinian Authority, Mahmou Abbas, is still committed to the use of violence against the people of Israel.
Do you know that if a young Palestinian stabs Israelis, as it was happening over the last year and a half, he gets a special compensation payment from the Palestinian Authority by law, by Palestinian law?
Why is that law on the books?
And why didn't the Secretary of State repudiate that instead of being focused on the issue of whether people are putting an extra veranda on their home in Judea and Samaria in the West Bank?
You know, I'm not saying this to be funny, but the reality is that type of thinking is exactly what you see from our, here in the United States, our ultra-liberal, almost communist Democratic Party, and the people that are out there protesting with violence, trying to say that, you know, we don't want Donald Trump as our president.
Instead of doing things peaceful, they go out and cause violence to try to make change.
And that's what I see with the Palestinians and how they relate to Israel.
The thing is, the question I asked you, I know you're a diplomat when it comes to answering this, but friends don't stab each other in the back.
Friends sit down and talk.
And that's why my opening statements, I was talking about we have been overrun in this country by two dangerous things.
One is academics with no experience, no operational experience, no military or law enforcement experience.
And the other thing is comfort.
Our country has become comfortable.
So when people hear what John Kerry says, they don't understand what you understand living in an area where you're surrounded by your enemy.
I mean, logistically, they have to, you know, throw a grenade over a wall in order to attack Israel in some places.
Well, that's true.
We do have a security fence that we put up about 10, 15 years ago simply because we were in a situation where, you know, let's say a Palestinian from Hamas could put a backpack full of TNT on his back, walk across a field into an Israeli mall or an Israeli shopping center, blow himself up along with 10, 15 people who are right there.
We found that to be something which we couldn't continue with.
Therefore, we do have in certain places a security fence.
It's not an electric fence that electrocutes anybody.
It's a fence that, if you touch it, will have a squad of soldiers who will be there in a matter of minutes to find out who's trying to cross into Israel.
That's called security.
That's all.
That's called security.
It's called basic security.
That's what we have to install.
It'd be best if we didn't always have to have those fences, but we do right now until the Palestinian side becomes committed to making peace with Israel.
Real peace, real peace and security for both of us.
Well, that's see, here's where the realist in me starts to come out is that I just to the victor goes the spoils.
That's the way it's always been throughout history.
And then we got into this modern era where you're a diplomat.
No, no, you know, I'm not hitting on you at all, but we started trying to do things diplomatically where we have dialogue.
But to me, what's dialogue has now become just another way to go out and cause warfare because what they're doing is instead of fighting each other on the battlefield, they're fighting each other in a diplomatic way that puts, for instance, Israel in a very precarious situation.
And to me, that is the thing that I think we should be looking at here in the United States is why are we doing this and why are the leaders who are on their way out affecting policy in another country when they're complaining daily because they say that the Russians affected our election process?
It's a catch-22 and to me it's the diplomacy warfare that's going on.
Well, I think you're picking up something, which is there is this kind of diplomatic warfare that goes on.
You know, organizations like Hamas, which is a purely terrorist organization that was involved in the past in suicide bombing attacks in Israel, tries to play it as though they are a regular political organization.
And they try and get political support.
They try and do that in Europe.
They had people in the British House of Commons about 10 years ago who were saying that they are just like the IRA and they should therefore you have a dialogue with them without getting them to really to suspend their belief in using military force against civilians.
We've got to have clear moral distinctions between those who are willing to use diplomacy and peace to reach a modus revendi and those who continue to use war and terror to attack civilians.
And unless you have that moral compass, unless you can make that distinction, diplomacy will never work.
That's right.
And you also, as Barack Obama showed, does not work.
You have to have force that backs up your diplomacy, which Israel has, but they keep having these people meddle with their force.
And I think that I think that, you know, if I had it my way, I would let Israel have a permanent seat on the Security Council because that's the other problem.
No matter what the Security Council does in the UN, there's only five countries that really have to vote on this to make any difference.
And if one Abstains, or if one goes against the rest of them, then nothing passes.
And I'd like to see Israel have a bigger voice on that.
Well, we're actually seeking Security Council membership.
There's five permanent members of the Security Council, according to the UN Charter, and then there's another 10 who rotate in and out.
And Israel has never, since 1948, has never sat on the Security Council.
Maybe we'll have our opportunity to be a rotating member in the next couple of years.
Well, I think this five-state permanent member thing, I have a problem with that because we tend to end up having a lot of proxy wars because of that.
I would like to see Israel be a permanent member on there.
Well, that's very considerate.
And, you know, we would love to make a contribution to national security.
But I want to stress what happened recently was that in the past, the United States has protected Israel because the UN is such an unfair place.
You know, if somebody tried, let's say, a group of countries try to attack a country in the European Union like Belgium or Luxembourg, well, the Europeans would circle the wagons to protect that country from a diplomatic political assault at the UN.
If the same thing happened to Singapore, well, then the countries in ASEAN in the Far East would circle the wagons and protect Singapore.
Israel has no natural Middle Eastern set of allies.
Our relations are improving with Egypt, are improving with Jordan, but we're not there yet.
As a result, when the UN gangs up on Israel, you get these unfair outcomes, which is why we've always had this U.S. veto when the Palestinians try and get the UN to condemn Israel for the most ridiculous things.
So this didn't work this time, and the U.S. abstained, and we ended up getting a resolution, which, frankly, was imbalanced and problematic.
And we hope that we can clear this up in the future because you know what?
The differences between Israel and its neighbors have to be resolved not in the Security Council, but outside of the United Nations in bilateral diplomacy between us.
Right.
And the other fact is, the big difference between Israel and the people that surround it is that Israel, regardless of what John Kerry says, can be a Jewish state and be a democracy.
Because just the sheer fact of the really, I studied religions in college, and Judaism is not one that's going out trying to conquer the world through force.
Yet you are surrounded by countries with fundamentalists, and that's exactly what they're trying to do with their religion.
And Israel is their main objective, to conquer, to conquer.
Well, and also, you know, many peoples have states.
You know, you have a Christian Democratic Party in Germany, which is Angela Merkel's party.
And you have the Anglican Church in England, which is connected to the British crown.
And so if we have a state that supplies a refuge for Jews around the world, and it's a Jewish state, you know, as long as we guarantee freedoms of minorities, which we do, that shouldn't be a problem.
And it isn't a problem.
In fact, we're very proud of Israel's outreach to Muslims and to Christians.
Christians have more freedoms in Israel than in any other Middle Eastern country.
And that's how it should be.
And so do other minorities.
I mean, Israel does not throw gays off of roofs.
They don't kill people who don't believe in their religion.
That's not the case of what Israel is.
It's the home for Jews to come home to.
It's not the place where they go in and try to eradicate everybody else.
It's a democracy.
It's a democracy.
And you look around the Middle East today, and what do you see?
You see churches being blown up by terrorist organizations.
You see mosques, Sunni mosques, but mainly Shiite mosques that get blown up by organizations like ISIS.
And you come to Israel and you see churches, synagogues, mosques that are protected because we believe in religious liberty.
Yeah, we'll have a crazy person from time to time, but we have a fundamental respect for all the great faiths, which is why only a free and democratic Israel will protect the city of Jerusalem for all the great faiths.
So I got, should we cut it here?
Okay.
So we got one more question for.
I got about another minute.
Sorry about that.
I want to make sure.
Sure.
And this is kind of a question off the cuff here.
And I want the American people to truly understand what is and how much of a threat is Israel under on a daily basis.
Because what I'm trying to convey to people, I got about a minute here, is that we need to get away from just academics and we need to have people who are operationally sound.
Israel and their citizens, by and large, are both.
But what is the threat that keeps you all moving forward where you're not just academic, but you're also operational?
Well, we, first of all, understand that there are countries and movements that want to destroy us, that want to destroy Israel to wipe it off the map.
That is exactly what the Iranian leadership says.
So we have no illusions about Iran, and we understand the danger of Iran acquiring nuclear weapons.
We have one of the world's best missile defense systems to protect us should Iran cross the nuclear threshold.
We are watching them with seven eyes to make sure that they're not just, they won't be a threat to Israel in the future and not to our neighbors in the future.
We hope we can get an international consensus against the current Iranian regime.
Dory Gold, former Israeli Ambassador of the UN and Director General of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, thank you very much, my friend, and God bless.
It's my pleasure.
It's great talking to you.
This is Jonathan Gillum, filling in again for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show.
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Again, before we bring on our next guest, I just want to say what I'm trying to talk about today.
And actually, when we started a show, and Lauren booked the next guest, I wasn't sure how I was going to work this in.
I was actually going to go, well, we're going to talk about something shift for a minute and come back.
But actually, this falls perfectly in line.
I got to thank you, Lauren.
This falls perfectly in line with, and Lauren is at the top of the heap today.
There's literally like 2,000 people working to get this show going.
Or two, her and Jason back there.
So we're talking today about the problem with academics and how they have systematically destroyed this country.
I mean, here's the facts.
You know, academics, what they do is they believe that their solutions are the best and what they know is the best.
And they rarely look for what's effective.
They just go with what they think is the best.
The other thing they do is when they can't figure it out, they reach out to another academic.
And what do you get?
That's like multiplying one by one.
You get one.
You get the same answer.
So Aaron, and I'm going to say it right, Nierbon, or is it spelled Nierbon.
Nierbon is right.
Executive Director of the nonprofit Troops Direct, which provides medical, operational, and canine support to our troops when they cannot get what they need from the U.S. government and the DOD.
Thanks for being on.
And that actually, that what I just read is exactly what I'm talking about.
Why aren't the troops getting what they need?
This is something that, in my opinion, and my experience in the military, comes down to the academically, non-operationally minded person that is concerned with numbers and not with effective warfighting.
Go ahead.
Thanks for having me on, John.
And yes, Nirbon is the correct way to pronounce it, but I appreciate you guys having Troops Direct on today.
No, I don't know if you heard what I just said, but the fact that these people aren't getting what they want, it appears to be the exact problem that we're talking about all day on the radio, which is academic non-operators worried about numbers, not getting the people on the ground what they need.
And you guys are having to go above and beyond to help them out.
You're absolutely right.
It's an issue, though, that, as I say, goes all the way back to the days of Genghis Kong or the Revolutionary War or even the Vietnam War more recently.
But I founded troopsdirect.org as a civilian, John.
I have never served in the military.
But one of my best friends was a company commander in the Marine Corps.
So he was the boss of about 150 infantry Marines in 2010.
And I sent him a care package, assuming that he had a lot of the basics and all that.
But he told me that everything that I had given him in that care package, which was basic hygiene and just supplies and snacks, nutrition, he said he needed to give to his Marines because they couldn't get it through their own supply chain.
So I said, well, what else do you need?
And I was shocked as an American to realize that our troops did not have the stuff that they required to get their mission done as efficiently and as safely as it possibly could.
And that was the birth of Troops Direct as a nonprofit seven years ago.
So I think people are going to be surprised when you tell them in reality what they need and they're not getting.
It's not just toilet paper, deodorant, and toothpaste.
What are the other things?
And I'm shocked by this, quite frankly, not shocked because of the fact the Obama administration's been in for eight years, but I'm shocked that the DOD could make this big of a mistake.
But tell the people exactly what you're getting them.
We are if a service member, a warfighter, or peacekeeper needs it, we're supplying it.
Just in the last three months alone, helmets, including the bullet resistant type for medics on the ground, communications gear and body armor carriers to some of the most well-known special operations teams, if you will, out there.
Boots we've had to ship.
Medical supplies are an ongoing concern.
We have medics that are arriving in country.
And by that I mean whether it's currently Afghanistan or in Iraq and areas around there, where they are told that their medical gear is going to be there when they arrive and it's not there.
So they are turning to us at Troops Direct to get them what they need.
I mean, it's pretty much anything that you can imagine, unfortunately and shamefully, we're having to send.
And what we don't send though, John, is cookies and candy and all that.
We respond to exactly what our troops are asking us for.
I mean, imagine you as a special operator or even as a parent.
Imagine your son or daughter going overseas and not having the proper helmet or the proper body armor carrier for when they go into harm's way.
And that's where Troops Direct is changing the way that supply happens.
It's just unbelievable.
I mean, listen, we had our issues when I was in.
We, you know, because I was in before 9-11, right after 9-11 happened, and I got out and went over to the air, Marshals.
We weren't getting the right gear.
We weren't even really being used at the very beginning.
And the gear that we were getting was okay, but a lot of this stuff, we would go out and we would purchase this stuff on our own or even, in certain cases, purchase sewing machines, industrial sewing machines, and make our own gear.
Yeah.
And you would think that once warfare started, that the mindset of these people would change a little bit.
But I'm really just taking back.
I was talking to Ron Bellum, a good buddy of mine.
He was a master chief from the SEAL teams that retired recently and host of Reaper Outdoors survive the hunt on the Pursuit Channel.
And we were laughing because when I was in, you know, only one or two guys had aimpoints on their guns or ACOGs.
Only two people in my platoon had radios.
And night vision was something we might get, but we never really trained with.
Well, let's talk about communications for a second.
We ship over tens of thousands of dollars of communications gear on an ongoing basis because what our service members are wearing is actually failing while in the field and they cannot get replacements.
Or what they are issued stateside before they deploy is incompatible with the communications gear that they also have attached to them.
And going back to what you said about buying your own gear, it's no mystery that our service members are not the highest paid individuals in the nation.
They should all be making a million dollars a year, in my opinion.
But for them to have to reach into their own pockets or their wives or their parents reaching into their pockets to buy gear that the government should have to provide them is an absolute travesty.
And that's why, John, TroopsDirect provides everything to our service members that they request at no cost.
We are powered by donations made by Americans.
We're a nonprofit organization, and when people donate to Troops Direct, we turn that cash around and answer the call for that American in the dirt that needs something to help them get their job done and keep them safe and alive.
So let's tell everybody before we've got to go here in just a second, how do people find you all and how can they help?
TroopsDirect.org is our website.
And there you can make a donation.
But what you can also do is see our support reports.
And what a support report is, is a weekly video that I put out that shows tangible items that we are sending over to troops in any given week.
You know, John, there's a lot of question about the authenticity of some nonprofits out there nowadays.
We've heard things about wounded vets organizations and the like.
But over 90 cents of every dollar with Troops Direct goes to getting our troops what they need.
And the videos are there.
They can read more about us.
But everybody is saying, well, gee, now that we have Trump in office, everything's going to be handled.
And I would love to think that as the founder and director of this organization, but I will tell you that more troops are going to have to go into harm's way to deal with ISIS and all these other terrorist factions.
And also, let's be honest, we haven't even spoken about the Pacific Rim with the Koreas and the South Seas yet.
Americans are going to be called, and Americans are going to have needs, and TroopsDirect will be there to get them what they need so they can get back home to their families safe and sound, but with their missions accomplished.
So everybody can go to troopsdirect.org and learn more about what we do.
So I want to ask you this real quick.
Got about another minute left.
I'm going to go to break.
Yeah.
If you had time to sit down with Mr. Trump, President-elect Trump, and the experience that you've gotten from doing this, what would you tell him and what needs, what kind of a solution would you have for this problem?
What I would do is I would sit down with President Trump.
I would explain or demonstrate what we have experienced in the last seven years.
And from there, I would put in front of him a solution for an immediate, almost like an Amazon prime, if you will, for our troops that Troops Direct as a private organization could handle for the United States government at less cost to the taxpayer than what they're currently paying with this big, huge guerrilla of a supply chain system that's out there.
Unbelievable, incredible idea.
That's actually great.
John, we can get any item to any service member, literally, in seven days to any point on the globe, where sometimes it takes six months to a year for that same item to arrive.
I will say this, I know you've got to go, but I was in Washington, D.C., dealing with Congressman Duncan Hunter and Congressman Ryan Zinke, two outstanding Americans.
And with them was a special operator who had just retired.
And he said that he waited six years for the proper helmet to be delivered to him.
And they sized him five times for it.
He wound up having to go out and buy his own helmet.
These cost $1,000 a piece.
And that's what Troops Direct is doing for our forces every single day, is fixing that.
Doesn't surprise me at all that he had to do that.
But listen, promise me one thing.
If, if you get to sit down with Trump and this takes off, I want to be a part of it.
I appreciate that.
I believe in what you just said.
I just hope we can get.
And if there's a listener that can help us get to this new constituency, we certainly would appreciate any help there.
You can email us at support at troopsdirect.org with any help there.
And I hope that General Mattis will be a great new Secretary of Defense for this nation.
I'm sure he will.
Yeah.
All right.
God bless you.
Listen, I'll do everything I can to help promote this idea.
And I think this is exactly what I'm talking about.
America, you need not go back to sleep because if you stay awake, you can find and you think operationally, you can find solutions to the problems that these academics have caused us in our United States government.
So, Aaron, God bless you.
Aaron Nearbond, Executive Director of Nonprofit Troops Direct, which provides medical, operational, and canine support to our troops when they cannot get what they need from the United States government and the DOD.
My salute goes out to you, my friend.
Americans deployed overseas right now.
You got it, buddy.
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And again, as always, I'm telling you, you can find me on Twitter, jay Gilliam underscore seal.
I'm getting a lot of great tweets.
I'm getting a lot of people adding me on Twitter, and that's awesome because I truly believe that what we saw under Donald Trump over the past year, all these people coming to these events, the greatest thing that came out of that is dialogue and people getting up off their couches and taking part in the American experiment.
It's not really an experiment anymore.
It's the American way of life.
You can't have freedom unless you get out and take care of it, take it for your own, embrace it, and be a part of it.
If you just get comfortable and lay back, well, that's when things start to happen, such as a covert war on the Constitution.
And I'm going to bring in one of my favorites on Fox News.
I see him all the time on there.
Haven't gotten the opportunity to meet you yet on the set, but Jay Sekolo, chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.
And it's great to have you on.
I don't think I've interviewed you before on any of the shows that I've seen.
I don't think so.
I think this is the first.
Thanks for having me, though.
I appreciate it.
You got it.
Listen, I think you're the person to speak to this just as well as anybody else.
I mean, you're highly involved on the things that are going on between U.S. and Israel and the relationships there and the backstabbing that's going on.
But I think what's interesting about what happened with Israel this past week with John Kerry and Barack Obama, you know, it's like they're trying to burn every bridge they have on their way out.
What's very interesting about this is that they've done the same thing to the Constitution for the past eight years.
And my question for you is, this war on the Constitution, is it going to be, are these people going to do the same thing they did when the Weather Underground went underground, really, and they went into the educational sector and they kind of disappeared for a while until the Clintons gotten into office?
Is that what's going to happen?
Or do you think they're going to continue their full-on charge?
I think it's going to be a combination of both.
Remember, you've got an entrenched bureaucracy that is kind of the unspecified fourth branch of government.
And that are these career bureaucrats that when they're in lockstep with an administration, which they were under Barack Obama, they get their way.
Now when you've got a new administration coming in, they've got to operate more covertly inside the agencies.
But whether it's the State Department or the Justice Department or the Internal Revenue Service, these individuals are going to still be there.
So we're going to have to be on guard almost no matter who the president is and what the agenda is, because the radical left took a huge hit.
They're going to take another huge hit on January 10th and 11th when you got the hearings for Senator Sessions to become the next Attorney General to clean up the mess that we call the Department of Justice.
And I expect shortly thereafter, we're going to have the hearings on the next Supreme Court justice for the United States Supreme Court.
So there's about to be a significant change in governance.
But remember, these bureaucrats are in deep.
And you mentioned the Israel example.
I mean, John, the State Department, what they did by, and this was, of course, Barack Obama's policy.
Let's not pretend for a moment it wasn't.
It was.
His policy was to harm Israel.
He couldn't do it enough during his eight years.
So he does it with 20 days to go.
And what has not been reported and what our Office of Government Affairs found out in our office in Washington was there was now, after that resolution passed condemning Israel that we did not veto, there was put in place a budget item inside the United Nations that allows for a staffing of positions, multiple positions inside the U.N. to do one thing and one thing only, make a list and obtain a list of every company that does business with Israeli companies in Judea and Samaria.
Now, that is happening as we speak.
So again, it's this entrenched bureaucracy.
That's where you're going to see the attack on the Constitution, and that's where we're going to have to be very engaged.
See, I find this very, very intriguing.
I know Americans are waking up to all this stuff.
What's very interesting about this is that, you know, we didn't declare war on Islam.
Islam declared war on, well, really 1,400 years ago, they declared war on the world.
It's just that they've kind of gone in and out of power.
And it appears as though that our own political elites, the academic elites, I use that word elite in a sparing way.
And they are, for some reason, trying to go against the democracy of Israel.
And, you know, people, the conspiracy theorists, they have a lot of, there's a lot of stuff out there about why this would be.
Everything from Satanism to the Muslim Brotherhood being in high places to trying to cause and disrupt what's going on in Israel and inflame the Middle East so that socialists can take over.
I mean, all these conspiracy theories.
What can people do to weed out the conspiracy theories and really hone in on the people that are causing this damage to the Constitution of Israel?
Yeah, I think that's a great question.
And I think real accurate information as to what's going on.
So actually, if you look at the Muslim Brotherhood, they were about to come into power.
They did come into power in Egypt, and the United States let them.
They were eventually taken out of power by the Egyptian people who said, I'm not going to take this anymore.
And they only had been in power for a year, but they realized what they were getting.
But we've got a very dangerous alliance that has been built with Syria, Iran, and to some extent Russia.
Now, you know, Donald Trump's going to rework that Russia relationship.
And the fact is, Russia was aggressive over the last several years because we looked weak.
When the United States looks weak, the Russians flex their muscles.
When we look strong, they don't.
That's what we've learned from the fall of the Cold War.
So I think when you look at the Middle East situation there, what you've got is this lack of what I would call geopolitical understanding worldwide.
What does this mean?
You mentioned Israel is the only true democracy in the Middle East.
That's absolutely true.
The problem is you can't export Jeffersonian constitutionalism into the Middle East.
It doesn't work.
We've learned that.
But hold on.
You're telling me that Obama was wrong over eight years that you cannot put in Jeffersonian democracy through hearts and minds?
Yeah, the hearts and minds campaign and leading from behind, two things we will remember forever, does not work.
But I'll tell you what else you can't do.
You can't prop up regimes that are destructive of their populace.
For instance, in Syria with Assad, when we had our moment, he refused to take action, Obama.
So the weakness is what makes groups like me.
And then cutting the deal with Iran, I just think, makes it worse.
And if you look at it domestically, I mean, where was the problem domestically?
Well, the biggest problem domestically was this was a president who was impatient.
So impatient presidents try to change the law even when they don't have the authority to do that.
Now, he got rebuffed by the Supreme Court.
I did a couple of those cases multiple times, but he kept trying.
And believe me, John, I think he's going to try right till the moment he leaves.
I don't think we've seen the last of his moves here, by the way.
I think we're probably entering into the most dangerous 17 days right now.
I do too.
And one of the people on Twitter actually said, it's Sherry on Twitter says, could Donald Trump be sworn in before 120?
I don't know if that's possible.
No, the Constitution says no.
So we'll suffer through it, but we'll suffer through on alert.
So I wanted to ask you this.
Lauren just handed me this.
I said Obama could make this last minute move tomorrow to appoint Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court because there's going to be – I'll let you explain it to the people.
Well, there is a you have to, Lauren's right.
I mean, there's a recess that has to actually take.
So we say they're never in recess, but when you come to the end of a Senate session and you move to the new session, there is a recess, and that recess is five minutes.
It could be two minutes.
Now, could the president sign a recess appointment order right then?
He could.
I would challenge it as volatile of a couple of cases we've had, but I don't think we should take anything for granted.
What would it do?
Well, maybe it makes him a recess appointment until the next Supreme Court term.
That could create a lot of damage, a tremendous amount of damage.
But I will tell you this: we're on the lookout on that.
We're prepared to take legal action immediately.
There was a pretty significant flurry of information flowing over the weekend on that.
I had our legal team.
We were looking at it.
I've done, as you know, John, I've done a lot in the Supreme Court.
It would be a bold move by Obama.
I don't put it by him.
That's why we'll be prepared literally to go into court that next moment because you have to stop it immediately.
Well, can Congress not take a recess?
Yeah, technically, they got to draw this session to an end.
But there is a pro-formal way of keeping it going.
and I know Mitch McConnell's working on that, where you're literally going to be closed for 15 seconds.
Well, these people are...
Go ahead.
I know.
I think we've got to be cautious.
It would be an unbelievable move if the president did it, but I think we have to be prepared for it, and we are prepared for it just in case.
Well, one thing we definitely have found out is that over the past eight years, political hacks like Ben Rhodes, who has no expertise in national security, is a speechwriter, but gets put in national security, and all the rest of the people in Barack Obama's cabinet that have no experience in what they're appointed with is a fact.
But these are people who are very sneaky, and they're very nefarious.
And that's the thing that we have to watch out for.
And I think the American people should reach out to their congressmen over the next couple of days and let them know that this cannot happen.
Absolutely.
Tomorrow we're talking about it.
We'll be talking about it on our broadcast.
I know you will be too.
And we're right.
Our offices are across the street from the Supreme Court of the United States.
Believe me, if we smell movement, we'll be on it.
So I got to go.
Good, good.
Yeah, we need bulls like this in Washington that I actually was talking about Kellyanne Conway last on the 23rd when I hosted this show.
And she is amazing because she reminds me of a police dog that you have on a leash.
But she doesn't go out and chew people apart.
She's so unbelievably good at putting a smile on and taking people down.
I think the combination of her and watchdogs like you, if we get the American people woken up enough and they stay awake, we'll be able to really contain this.
So the question I have for you is: what would you say to the American people?
You know, 17 million people listening to this radio show, what would you say to them so that they can stand up against this type of thing from happening again, these type of people from getting to office and be awake over the next four years?
Well, number one is take nothing for granted.
So again, mainstream media reliance is a big mistake.
We've seen that in the election.
We've seen it generally.
That's number one.
Number two, not only stay informed, stay engaged.
And also recognize that there are entities within our government that are beyond redemption, so to speak.
And I take the IRS.
You have to have a top-to-bottom change in the Internal Revenue Service.
I was an agency I worked for when I came out of law school.
My first job was in chief counsel's office of the IRS.
It is not the IRS I work for.
But to take it a step further, and I think this is the bottom line, that's an institution incapable of self-correcting and very dangerous.
So we have to be on alert on the agency level here, even with a new administration.
You've got to watch out for the bureaucrats.
We have a team at the ACLJ that is all they do is monitor what the bureaucrats are doing.
And when we see something going wrong, we immediately file suit, like on the Iran deal.
We already were on top of that, file the lawsuits to get to the bottom of what really happened.
We're already in federal court on that.
Those things will continue, and that will actually help the next administration succeed.
Outside interest is very important here.
Now, when I was in the FBI and to some extent when I was in the SEAL teams, especially the FBI, though, I've seen reports on the news that were just not true.
Like we had a helicopter and airplane crash in the Hudson River.
I was there on the scene.
I watched them pull bodies out of the river, and they pulled a body and an arm out of the river.
And then the news helicopter, which was held like a mile or so away with a telephoto lens, was reporting on the news that a baby had just been pulled out of the water.
They're not held to a legal or ethical standard anymore at all.
And they can report whatever they want.
So have you seen, I mean, your job must just drop at times when you see what's being reported on the news.
Well, I've been in actually in the conversations they're reporting and saying, I was in that conversation.
Nobody said anything like that.
They're making this stuff up.
The truth of the matter is, they know they've been making it up, and this time they've gotten caught.
So, you know, the question will be, this is the question for the American people.
Are we going to allow them to get away with it?
Or do we have alternatives, which we do, Sean's program, your program, ours, others, to make sure we're on top of real information.
That's where social media is important, all these different avenues.
Because the fact of the matter is the mainstream media has not only failed the American people, they are lying to themselves.
And that's a dangerous combination.
Yeah, I think we need to keep these where Trump had his tour when he was running for president and then the thank you tour.
I would like to see these types of large stadium groups of people coming together to discuss these issues and getting away from social media and away from the news and actually having conversations.
I'd like to see this continue.
And I think it would be a big win.
Yeah, look, I mean, I think every avenue, every platform available to get the truth out of what we need to be doing, and that's for this administration and those to come.
Remember, it's a closely divided Senate, the 5248.
I'm optimistic in the 2018 elections that we'll pick up more seats, but it's very close, which means one or two defections, and we have problems on legislation.
So we're going to have to keep the Republicans in line, keep the Democrats in check.
That's going to be part of what we all have to do.
So I got one question.
I got 15 seconds.
Is there a war on the Constitution, and are there communists in the Democratic Party?
There is a war on the Constitution, and I think not only are there communists within the Democratic Party, I don't know if that's fair to communists with some of the elements inside the Democratic Party right now.
You got it.
Jay Sekolo, thank you very much.
I hope to be on with you sometime over at Fox News, and God bless you.
Looking forward to it.
You've got to have a great 2017.
Appreciate what you've done.
You got it.
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Amy, I know you've been holding on there forever.
I'm going to get to you eventually.
Feel free.
I want you all to call in, give me your thoughts on the show today.
I'm going to get to those here in just a little bit, and also some more of your stuff on Twitter.
Real quick, before we go to C.L. Bryant that's joining us here, you can find me on Twitter, j Gilliam underscore Seal, and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam.
I'm really interested in what you have to say.
I'm loving your tweets.
But I want Clark Wayne tweeted me and says, thank you for your service.
My pleasure.
I am a Hindu conservative Patriot Republican.
So are my two kids at Harvard.
Please stop generalizing RE top schools.
So here's the thing, Clark.
I'm not generalizing every single person that goes to a big Ivy League school.
The fact is, and you cannot deny this, the majority or all of the Supreme Court justices in recent history have come from Ivy League schools, predominantly Harvard.
They have completely screwed up our Constitution and the protection of unborn life.
We look at Congress, we look at the Senate, full of people from Ivy League schools.
Our Congress and Senate is a complete disaster of leadership.
Not even any leaders really hardly left in there.
Only less than 20% are veterans.
And then when we look at the presidency, I mean, the reality is all of them have come from Ivy League schools, and they have been disasters to this country.
They haven't protected the people.
They haven't protected our national security.
They haven't protected our Constitution.
And they have failed.
So I think it's time that we say, okay, we've had enough, Ivy League.
It's time now for the real operators to come in.
It's time now for the people with real experience, the meat eaters, who say, this is effective.
I don't care what somebody, what their opinion is.
I don't care what your activist group says.
This is what's effective.
This is how we protect the people.
This is how we ensure national security.
Thank you.
Now goodbye.
That's what I think the American people need to start seeing, which is why I wanted to bring in who I think is not just an outstanding academic mind, but also an operator in the Christian world and on the radio, host of the C.L. Bryant show and senior fellow of FreedomWorks, creator of the award-winning runaway slave movie or slave movie joint.
Wait, how do you say that?
Runaway slave movie.
Joins today, and we're going to discuss this.
We're going to talk about the war on Christianity.
We've talked about the war on the Constitution.
We've talked about the war on freedom.
We've talked about the war by the academics on the expert subject matter experts in this country.
Let's talk about this.
C.L. Bryant, always great to have you on the show with me.
Jonathan T. Gillum, it is good to be with you.
Always, my friend.
Glad to be here.
I love when I get to interview you, because for those of you who don't know, and I don't know how you could know, because C.L. is one of the biggest shows in the world.
When I get to be on his show, and he interviews me, asks me some incredible questions.
And I think it's great to look at your expertise because we're always talking about national security.
But what is your viewpoint on this war on Christianity?
It has been by design, no question about it.
And one thing that we as Christians must understand is that it has been the Judeo-Christian ethic, as you well know, that has afforded every other religious group the opportunity to practice freely their faith.
And we should not stand idly by and allow them now to push us off our dime as far as having provided that.
I think people forget that it has been those principles that have paved the way for freedom for everyone else.
And yes, there is a bridge that we're going to have to build, Jonathan.
And I'm going to be doing that in North Carolina, both in Belfort and in Carthage, North Carolina, beginning on the 16th of next month.
We're going to be talking to common sense Americans.
And I think that is what you have been talking about here in this last segment.
Common sense Americans need to take control of this country again.
And I think that's where we need to head.
But there is a design attack on religious freedom in this country, particularly when it comes to Christians.
No question about it.
Well, you know, exactly what I was saying earlier about we need to keep this conversation going.
So anything that you can do to get people together, talk, whether it be on the radio or in an arena like Trump did, I don't think we, listen, I supported Trump, and you know that all the way through, I supported Trump.
But we don't need Trump to have this dialogue.
Trump started it.
He got the ball moving.
Now it's up to the American people to keep this dialogue going because as we've seen, Not just nationwide, but globally, there is a war on Christianity and Christians are being killed in the Middle East because of their religion.
And the one thing, too, Jonathan, when we look at Istanbul, what has happened in Istanbul here in these last 48 hours, we look at ISIS saying to the world that we wanted to attack a pagan religion, talking about Christianity wherever they gather.
And when we look at the open borders and people flooding across that open border, the way they're flooding across, I want everyone to understand, particularly black people, that when Trump talks about making sure that we secure that border, we're talking about people, a person who is looking out for the job security of those of us who are already here.
It's common sense.
And you talked about the Ivy League, how the Ivy League has pretty much dominated the political scene, the political scene in this country.
We are looking for common sense Americans.
And I think that's what this president-elect appealed to.
That's who elected this president.
It was common sense Americans who understand that our country is great and we need to secure it again for both us and our posterity.
Amen about that.
I mean, because here's the thing: there's a couple of things that people that hate America immediately go after.
One of them is the Constitution, and the other is our Christian foundation in this country.
They immediately go after those two things and try to destroy those, or at least try to destroy our links to those so they can lessen their effectiveness in the governance of this country.
Absolutely.
And again, that is by design.
If we are not vigilant, as Thomas Jefferson told us we must be, our liberty can go away.
Thomas Jefferson warned us that the price of keeping our liberty was eternal vigilance.
And I believe that Americans around the country now are called upon to be vigilant in every aspect of our existence.
And right now, we have an opportunity to have conversations like we're having right now, to do things that we haven't done in the past, and that is truly examine what has made us great in the past and then revisit those things that can bring that greatness back to the fore.
And by the way, let me take this opportunity to ask everyone to follow me.
Just follow me at Rev, R-E-V-C-L, Bryant, and of course, go to freedomworks.org, where I am a senior fellow there.
We deal with these types of conversations.
We build these kinds of bridges.
And Jonathan, you and I have these conversations often.
We need to have them even more.
I invite you to join me out on the road sometimes, just like I'm going to North Carolina here starting on the 16th.
I want you, and I've already asked Sean to come out with me.
I think we can have this conversation in America.
I think we should.
And listen, you know, I'd be wherever you need me to be.
I'm going to be there.
I mean, I believe in you.
I believe in your voice.
And I think what's happening now, especially with talk radio, which is interesting, is that between talk radio and social media, we are actually developing a real spider web of deplorables.
And we're able to really carry on this dialogue.
And it's just, I just don't think people realize how important getting together with like-minded individuals really is.
And the Bible preaches about that as well, about the like-minded brothers and sisters getting together, making sure that you do have fellowship.
It is time for us to make choices, Jonathan.
We have the ability to make choices as Americans.
That is one of our rights as Americans to make individual choices.
But what Americans many times fail to understand is that if we make the wrong choices, we don't have the control over the consequences.
This past eight years is the result of bad choices.
And we have now an opportunity to make, we've made a good choice.
I believe in this president-elect.
And I want to applaud you and Sean for staying right there on the bridge of the ship when others were fleeing this candidate that we have as president because you never wavered in your support for him.
And I believe he's going to be a good choice.
He's going to be a good choice for business.
He's going to be a good choice for employment.
And I do believe he's going to be a good choice for our military.
And so I am looking forward to these next four years.
And the consequences of this choice that we have made can, in fact, turn this nation around.
And we must look forward to that as well.
No, I agree wholeheartedly.
And listen, it was an honor to be to sit there and argue on behalf of Donald Trump with people over the past year, both on TV, radio, and then just out and talking to neighbors.
I was astounded, though, at some of the times when people were just okay with bringing somebody in like Clinton and just completely wanted to ignore what was in the box of secrets.
And so I'm glad we got to the point that we're at.
What's interesting, though, is, and I know you know this, is when you say, you know how you say Trump in certain areas?
I live in Manhattan.
So if I say Trump, people, I can get ready for some disdain, for some looks, you know, and people kind of whispering.
But it's the same thing.
And it should not be this way in this country.
If I say the name Jesus, or if I say I'm a Christian, I get a lot of the times looks from people like they cannot believe that I said the word Jesus.
Just like if I say the word Trump, as though I should be ashamed of that.
And you should never be ashamed of the choice that you made as a Christian, as an unashamed.
And both of us, folks, to the millions that we may be talking to, both of us are unashamed, unabashed followers of Jesus Christ.
And that, again, is a choice that we make.
And also, I'm proud to be an American.
I'm proud for however my ancestors got to this country, however your ancestors got to this country for a moment like this, that you and I are talking in a free America.
You're from Arkansas.
I'm from Louisiana.
You're Caucasian.
I'm black.
We have to talk in colors for some reason in this country, but that's okay.
We understand that conversation.
But for whatever reason that is, we're speaking in a country where it has been bought with blood, and we should be very proud of where we have come from and where we have the opportunity to go.
And we shouldn't squander that as we so often do behind foolishness like Black Lives Matter or Occupy Wall Street or Hands Up, Don't Shoot.
And I tell you something else.
As people who believe in the Judeo-Christian principle, we believe in law and order, and we believe in the rule of law.
And those types of things are things that we must understand have made this nation great, and that is nothing to be ashamed of.
We should be very proud of that.
Yeah.
And, you know, The thing that bothers me about all this is that, again, where I was talking about the academics before, the young people who are in college have to realize that they don't know everything and they're being molded by people that are telling them that they do know everything.
And you're better off going out there, discovering life.
If you grew up Christian, challenge your religion, say, I want to know the truth, not just what I was taught.
Same thing if you're Muslim or Jewish or whatever, or you're American.
You should challenge what is freedom all about.
And that's what people just don't do.
They don't stand there and say, Who am I?
How was I taught?
And what is this life that I'm living all about?
You just do not see that.
And you know, Jonathan, on our college campuses, there is a purposeful brainwashing going on of America's future by progressive liberal professors.
We see it all the time.
And you're absolutely right.
Our young people are not having the dialogue that we once had on college campuses.
It was once a place of ideas.
When I was in college, we challenge the ideas and the minds of the professors.
But now, if you challenge those ideas of those professors on college campuses, then you're ostracized.
Yeah, listen.
And it's a shame that that has happened.
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You know, I've been giving a lot of smack talk to the academics in this country and to the millennials and to the Democratic Party.
I really have, I don't care what the Democratic Party thinks, but I do care what the academics think and what the millennials think and what the operators think and what America thinks.
So here's the reason why I'm now backtracking a little bit, not really backtracking, but it's important for us all to stand up and get some harsh criticism from time to time.
We need to have a realistic view of who we are and what we bring to the table.
And all the stuff I've said about academics and about Ivy League educated leaders or people in the government, all of that that I've said is true.
But what is also true about these people that excel and strive to go to the most elite schools to get this education, some of them spend half their life in school, what's true about them is that they have a commitment to knowledge.
And I applaud them for that.
But what our founding fathers had and the men and women of olden days had is they had operational understanding of how to put their knowledge into an effective solution into effective missions mission planning.
They understood how to take their education and their knowledge, combine that with wisdom and street smarts, and make things that are effective.
Like our Constitution, for instance.
Our Constitution is something I think I talked about this the last time I was on here, but it's something that keeps coming up in a lot of the discussions that I have.
Our Constitution is not a living, breathing document.
It is a finite document.
It needed some clarity throughout the years.
And people say, well, how can you say that it said that a person of color was less of a person than this guy?
And it said different things and they had to be amendments to this and that.
Look, clarity is when you clarify something, it does not mean that that thing is living and breathing.
It's finite.
It's a foundation.
But because our founding fathers created a constitution that in and of itself makes sure and ensures that our God-given freedoms are in place in this country, those people who were enslaved, those people who had to fight for their equal rights, you could not have done that in a country that did not have our Constitution.
So you see, the sheer fact that our Constitution was drafted and created and the God-given freedoms were granted through that is what allowed those people who paid the price as slaves for you to become free people.
The fight would not have been possible if it were not for the Constitution.
And so I say now to those people that are academics, I say to the millennials, I say to the people that are operators that are out there learning your craft and your skill set, it is time that we all start coming together as American citizenry.
If you have something to offer, know your limits.
Don't just assume that you know everything because you have a title behind your name.
Don't think because you have a diploma that you know more than the person who's never been in a higher education but has been busting their rear in a job for 20 years.
They may actually know more than you.
And so I say to the American people, we have to start coming together and riding this wave that has been created over the past year that pretty much was, you can say what you want about Donald Trump, but if we had not had a person that had the confidence to go out and really just churn this wave up,
if we had not had a person that had the money to have their own plane to fly state to state, if we did not have a person who understood and could care less about the mainstream media, we would not Have this wave that we can continue to ride.
So, you have, if you are a millennial, if you are an Ivy League academic, if you are an operator out there, a cop, a fireman, a SEAL, Special Forces Ranger, a doctor, a lawyer, a nurse,
anybody who's out there, a paramedic, anybody that's out there working on behalf of other people, servants to this Constitution and to the American way, we all have to come together and share our experience,
our expertise, our knowledge, our wisdom, throw it into the melting pot so that we can continue to be the greatest country and the freest country in the world that history has ever known.
So, I'm going to go real quick to a couple of calls before we take a break.
Let's go to Virginia.
No, it's Colin in Virginia.
Let's go to Colin.
Go ahead, Colin.
Hey, brother, how are you doing?
What's going on, my friend?
Not a whole lot, man.
So, well, let me step back a minute because you were backtracking.
I don't want to backtrack too much.
But the last caller you had on there was talking about how, and I'm sorry, I didn't catch his name.
I was running some errands in town, but he said that C.L. Bryant.
C.L. Bryant.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
So the students of today cannot step up and speak out against what their college professors are teaching and saying, you know, no, I don't believe you're right.
I think that's opinion-based.
I don't think that's fact-based.
And then they get ostracized by their community within their peers and by the other educators within the school system.
And to me, that's a load of BS.
It shouldn't be that way.
So, you know, my 15 years as a straight-leg infantryman in the Army, by no means an operator, but I know my job pretty well.
And let me tell you this: I have replaced my tactfulness with blunt truth and sarcasm.
And so I was just kind of hoping that maybe you had something that you could offer to the college students of today on how to use tact to not necessarily attack, but go against what their professors are saying.
Because my sister is an educator, for one, and she's got her boss, she's in the public school system, the principal of her school breathing down her neck.
And she teaches special ed, and she's a pilot program for this new system, and they're constantly changing things on her, and she can't adapt, and her students can't adapt to it fast enough.
And I said, just be blunt.
Just tell the woman to keep her nose out of your business, and you'll report up to her on a monthly basis or whatever.
And granted, there are some choice words in there, and my sister laughed at it.
She's like, that's exactly right.
That's what I need to do.
But there again, I've lost my tactfulness.
No, let me tell you something.
Two things.
One, there is power in numbers.
So if she feels a certain way or if a student in a class in college feels a certain way, they need to don't just get up there and stand up and be a hero.
I've learned from being in the SEAL teams and being in the FBI and on a plane as an air marshal where we only had, you know, we didn't have the backup that we needed.
But that's what we had to do.
You have to come at it in numbers.
Find people who think like you, who understand the way you do, and who have the vision of America the way it's supposed to be.
And then stand up together.
That's the really, see, that's the whole premise of this whole show today.
I have a limited amount of time when I come on these shows because I'm not going to have tomorrow to talk.
So you have to realize, everybody has to realize that there is power in numbers.
We showed that on November 8th.
We have to continue to show that.
So, if you stand up together in a classroom and petition a teacher together, five of you, ten of you, and whenever he starts to talk opinion, say, we're not going to listen to this.
This is opinion.
Or if your sister and other teachers can get together and stand up against the unions and the principals and say, listen, this is a hostile work environment for people who are not liberal.
That's what has to happen.
So, I hope that you know, I hope that sheds a little bit of light on there for you, Colin, and I appreciate your call.
Let's go to Bill in West Virginia.
Go ahead, Bill.
Happy New Year, brother.
Happy New Year.
Two points to make real fast.
First point is that Julian Assange got on with Sean last week and stated that it wasn't any state and it wasn't Russia that divulged the information to him in regards to the DNC.
The second one I'd like to make is that the Israeli Israel says that they have evidence that shows that it was the Obama administration sent a team over there to basically destabilize the election to the point where Mr. Netanyahu would not win.
Those two points.
I was wondering if you could comment on that.
Well, listen, everybody seems to have forgotten that, that that happened and that, you know, everybody meddles in everybody's affairs.
Look at what's happening in Israel.
Look at what happened with the Brexit vote, for instance, when Obama was playing heavily against the Brexit vote.
I mean, the fact is everybody spies on everybody and everybody influences everybody.
But I can guarantee you that the DNC and Podesta would probably not have been hacked if they had any security mindset whatsoever, which they did not, which leads me to believe, and I've said this before, I think the potential is there that they hack themselves, that the DNC knew what they were doing, that they got a call from the FBI.
They didn't react to it for like a month.
And that somebody from Russia, the Clintons, have plenty of relationships with people in Russia in the Intel world.
They could have easily had somebody hack the DNC.
And as far as Podesta goes, I don't know who hacked him.
It could also have been somebody who was very angry.
The fact is, we have fake news in this country, and it's called CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, and all these liberal hack sites like Media Matters ran by a criminal, David Brock.
I mean, these people are elitist.
They don't believe in the American way.
They hate freedom.
And I know people are out there saying there's no way, no way that's the case.
They hate freedom.
And so, like this guy who keeps writing me, Garrett Wallace, let me tell you something, Garrett.
You're on Twitter.
You're the one that's living in a dream world.
If you think you can go anywhere and stand up on a plane and yell Jesus, that that word is not going to cause controversy, you are living in a fantasy world.
The fact is, I am not free to say the word Jesus.
I've been pulled off the set at CNN for talking theology when I was being challenged about the reality of what fundamental Christianity is versus fundamental Islam.
You are not free in this country to be an open Christian without persecution of some kind.
That is the truth.
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