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July 19, 2016 - Sean Hannity Show

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	All right, well, live.
	We're in Cleveland.
	We are at the Republican National Convention 800-941 Sean.
	If you want to be a part of the program, a lot of ground to cover, great guests.
	It's just starting now, though, a news conference, an update on the assassination, the ambush of these officers in Baton Rouge.
	Let's dip in and hear the very latest.
	We will open up to questions at the end of all the briefings.
	And I'll turn it over to Governor Edwards.
	Thank you, Doug.
	And good afternoon, everyone.
	We wanted to have this press conference today to update you on what we now know about yesterday's horrific attack on law enforcement and actually on the entire Baton Rouge community.
	Specific information related to that attack will be given to you shortly.
	And then at the end of the presentation today, we will take some questions as well.
	First, and and you all know this, it's no secret by now, but the shooter was in fact Gavin Long.
	That information was not given to you yesterday by us because it had not been forensically confirmed, as it was at about midnight last night.
	He's a 29-year-old from Kansas City, Missouri.
	He came in here from somewhere else to do harm to our community, and specifically to the law enforcement officers in our community.
	And what's telling about that is for six days prior to the violence of yesterday morning, there had not been a single arrest in Baton Rouge related to any protests or demonstrations arising out of the Alton Sterling shooting.
	At this point, state and local officials are partnering with federal agencies to keep people safe.
	And as governor of the state of Louisiana, I have no higher priority than public safety.
	And I am absolutely confident that we have a team on the ground to not only complete this investigation, but to maintain law and order and ensure the safety of our public, those people who live here and those people who are visiting.
	Some of which you're going to hear from today.
	I have spoken today with officials from the White House, and I will be in further communication later today with the United States Attorney General, and I want to thank them for their support at this time.
	I want to assure everyone that this investigation will leave no stone unturned.
	But what I know, the actions of the law enforcement officers at the Baton Rouge community yesterday were nothing short of heroic.
	They ran towards danger in order to protect the public.
	They ran towards danger in order to render aid to fellow officers.
	Yesterday I visited with families at the hospital.
	I did so also last night.
	These were tremendous officers surrounded by loving families.
	these were good men And we all know the story, but it bears repeating now.
	No greater love hath any man than to lay down his life for others.
	And so we're going to continue to mourn the loss of the three officers who were killed.
	And we're going to pray for the recovery for the three injured officers.
	This was a diabolical tack attack on the very fabric of society.
	And that is not hyperbole.
	That is not an overstatement.
	There is nothing more fundamentally important Than maintaining law and order so that people can have good quality lives.
	And that's what he attacked, the very fabric of our society.
	And that is not what justice looks like.
	It's not justice for Alton Sterling or anything else that's ever happened in this state or anywhere else.
	It's not justice for anybody.
	It's certainly not constructive.
	It's just pure unadulterated evil.
	And we're going to start our conversations here in Louisiana and around our communities with community leaders, law enforcement, government officials, faith leaders, so that we can find out together where we go from here.
	And there isn't any one of us who can fix this, but all of us can and will fix this problem.
	And certainly I don't have all the answers.
	And I know that it won't happen overnight, but it will happen.
	And I know that we're going to come out of this stronger than ever and better than ever.
	There is no division in Louisiana.
	channel.
	And make no mistake and let there be no doubt.
	We support our law enforcement officers and our law enforcement agencies.
	At mass last night in the diocese of Baton Rouge, they distributed the peace prayer of St. Francis of Assisi.
	And I just want to go over the first two lines of that.
	Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
	Where there is hatred, let me so love.
	The kind of love modeled by all of these police officers yesterday.
	And I want to direct your attention as I sum up to the words of Officer Montrell Jackson from a Facebook post of July the 8th.
	And this is the last part of that post.
	Finally, I personally want to send prayers out to everyone directly affected by this tragedy.
	These are trying times.
	Please don't let hate infect your heart.
	This city must and will get better.
	I'm working in these streets.
	So any protesters, officers, friends, family, or whoever.
	If you see me and need a hug, or want to say a prayer, I got you.
	I'm going to be followed by Colonel Edmondson.
	He's going to give you a lot more specific information, as will the other presenters here at this press conference.
	And then, as I mentioned earlier, at the end of the conference, we will take some questions.
	All right, that is the Democratic governor of the state of Louisiana, uh, Governor John Edwards' very powerful statement.
	What he read at the end there was from Officer Montrell Jackson.
	I was actually planning on reading it myself, and this was after the shooting that took place in I I believe, you know, shortly after the death of Altron Sterling, the guy killed in the altercation with the Baton Rouge police, and then after what happened in Dallas, I'm tired physically and emotionally, disappointed in some family, friends, officers for some reckless comments.
	But hey, what's in your heart is in your heart.
	I still love all of you because hate takes too much and too much energy.
	I definitely won't be looking at you the same.
	Thank you to everyone who has reached out to me or my wife.
	It was needed and much appreciated.
	I swear to God, I love this city, but I wonder if this city loves me in uniform.
	I get nasty, hateful looks out of uniform.
	Some consider me a threat.
	I've experienced so much in my short life, and these last three days have tested me to the core.
	When people you know begin to question your integrity, you realize they don't really know you at all.
	Look at my actions, they speak loud and clear.
	And finally, I personally want to send prayers out to everyone directly affected by this tragedy.
	These are trying times.
	Please don't let hate infect your heart.
	The city must and will get better.
	I'm working in these streets, so any protesters, officers, friends, family, or whoever.
	If you see me, you need a hug, you want a prayer, I got you.
	Now I'm gonna tell you, we we've got to start here.
	Every day now it's either a terrorist attack or it is now open assassination, ambushing of America's law enforcement.
	Our best, our bravest gun down in cold blood.
	And what we saw this weekend in Baton Rouge.
	This guy literally lures them in, lying in wait, and fatally shooting three guys, severely wounding three others just for being policemen.
	Now, this is the second attack on U.S. law enforcement in ten days.
	Within that 10 day period, by the way, your president met with the Black Lives Matter leaders, the guy, you know, the group that has members chanting pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
	What do we want?
	Dead cops.
	When do we want it now?
	Obama's answer, well, police can make the job of being a cop a lot safer by admitting their failures.
	His history of rushing to judgment in high profile racial cases, it is now unconscionable.
	Cambridge police did not act stupidly.
	Maybe that would have been Treyvon 35 years ago, but there was an eye witness in that case that identified George Zimmerman getting grounded and pounded his head into concrete, screaming for his life.
	And the president rushed to judgment there.
	He rushed to judgment in Cambridge.
	The president rushed to judgment on foreign soil talking about Ferguson.
	We have in our own country.
	You saw what happened in Ferguson.
	Okay, what happened in Ferguson was you have one guy that robs a store, intimidates a clerk, reaches in and tries to steal a cop's gun.
	I'm sure to shoot him, and then charges at an officer.
	How do we know that?
	Because black eyewitnesses testify to that fact.
	A president that's supposed to be a constitutional attorney doesn't give them due process, the presumption of innocence, no facts, no evidence, nothing.
	He rushes to judgment.
	Meanwhile, 3,470 plus people in his home city of Chicago have been killed on his watch the years he's been president.
	Thousands of others shot.
	And what is he?
	He's mentioned it nine times, basically in passing, and it doesn't fit it through the narrative that he wants to advance the prism of the narrative that he'd like to advance.
	So what does he do?
	He's virtually silent.
	So you got Montrell Jackson.
	He was a 10-year veteran, 32 years old, Baton Rouge Police Department.
	By the way, he and his wife had a baby in March.
	You have this guy, uh, Matthew Gerald or Gerald, he's 41 served in the department for less than a year.
	You got another guy, Garofalo, and what he's 45 years old.
	East Baton Rouge parishes sheriff deputy, father of four.
	These kids will never see their dads again, ever.
	And of the officers wounded, one is now said to be fighting for his life.
	Now, what do we know about the gunman?
	Gavin Long, 29-year-old, African American, was quote, targeting police officers, state police officers said today, they got a video.
	You want to hear this guy?
	Now, this is so we better start paying attention to social media because we better set up a department of social media safety because right after these events happen, every single solitary time, we find evidence that they're out there bragging on social media that they're gonna do these things, and we don't get this early enough.
	Listen to this guy.
	And you gotta be promoting.
	That's the thing, because like when I was talking to a young brother, this nigga working at the Little Fool's, I can't remember it.
	Like some taco place by the college and shorking for the white people.
	And I'm telling, Dog, you got to get skilled.
	And this nigga telling me he already he went to the um, you know, you had a job core.
	He already got the shame the crop it and shall certify, got everything.
	But again, the problem also promotion.
	We don't know that you carpet it.
	How we know?
	So, what we do, if if my mom don't know that you cop it, who's she gonna f with?
	The cracker, the Arab, the Chinese.
	We gotta be thinking, man.
	We gotta be promoting.
	Every time we chop it up, we go meet a nigga.
	Here, this is my business card, nigga.
	I do carbon, I cut hair, I sell this, I sell that, I paint.
	That's what we gotta be on all day, every day.
	So we can f with our own because these niggas don't give no f about it.
	These Arabs, these fing Indian, don't they don't give no two f about you.
	Only when you've given them their money.
	Only when you give them your money.
	Other than that, no, it's f you.
	This is a monster.
	Was identifying himself as a potential terrorist and killer.
	And we did nothing to get him ahead of time.
	Now, even the New York Times put it, the twin attacks, three officers dead Sunday, Baton Rouge, five killed July 7th in Dallas, along with 12 injured overall.
	Now they've now set off a period of fear and anguish and confusion among the nation's 900,000 state and local law enforcement officers.
	If you're a cop and you see in the middle of these two shootings, in between Dallas and in between Baton Rouge, the president of the United States meets with a group that was caught chanting pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
	What do we want dead cops?
	When do we want them now?
	What are you thinking?
	Now, some law enforcement officials said it's been generations since this country has endured two separate episodes in which so many police officers now they're being, you know, they're lying in wait and they're ambushing them and they're assassinating them.
	And then the president's saying, well, the police can make their job of being a cop safer by admitting their failures.
	Well, how about Mr. President, you stop meeting with people that chant they want dead cops?
	This is insanity.
	Hangs out with unrepentant terrorists.
	Nobody cares.
	You vote this idiot into office.
	Two people, Bernadine Dorn, Bill Ayers.
	They are part of a group that bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, New York City police headquarters.
	He hangs out at the church of GD America.
	The Reverend Wright, the Sunday after 9-11.
	No, no, no.
	Not God bless America.
	GD America.
	America's chickens coming home to roost.
	Unbelievable.
	We've not seen anything like this.
	Heather McDonald is a really incredible scholar at the Manhattan Institute, writing in the City Journal, says the overwhelming odds are that the most recent assault on law and order is the direct outcome of the political and media frenzy that has followed police shootings of Alton Sterling and Baton Rouge and Philando Castile in Falcon Heights, Minnesota, less than two weeks ago.
	The frenzy further amplified the dangerously false narrative that racist police officers are the greatest threat facing young black men today.
	And then she added this.
	President Obama bears direct responsibility for the lethal spread of this narrative.
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	Coming up, we have former NYPD Commissioner Bernie Kerrick, Dr. Sebastian Gorker joins us today.
	Uh Newt Gingrich, he'll be speaking on security.
	Today's theme, I think is what make America safe again.
	Couldn't be a more appropriate time.
	Pastor Darrell Scott, the Reverend Charles Christian Adams, all coming up here from Cleveland and the Sean Hannity Show and the best election coverage.
	Couple of programming notes.
	Um, all right, we are starting TV one hour later tonight.
	And here's why.
	So they say, all right, well, you want to do your hour?
	And I said, You mean when everybody speaks and I have to carry the speeches?
	And they said, Yeah, or do you want to do 11 or 12?
	And they said, here's my choices.
	10 o'clock when I have to let me go now throw to this speech.
	Let me now go through to this speech.
	Let me now throw to this person.
	I to be perfectly blunt, that's not fun for me.
	Anyone can do that.
	I could be a robot and do that.
	You know, whatever.
	So I said, no, I'd rather I'd rather do the commentary.
	Like Donald Trump finishes his speech Thursday night at 1050.
	I want to be on at 11.
	And so they said, Well, do you want to do one hour, two hours, three hours?
	You can do it every year.
	I said, two hours is enough.
	I do three hours of radio a day, five hours a day is great.
	So one hour later, and that's eight to uh ten on the West Coast, eleven or one Eastern, and we have such a line Rudy Giuliani tonight.
	We have Governor Perry tonight, uh, we have Marcus Lutrell tonight, Laura Ingram tonight, Newt Gingrich tonight.
	We got the best people, and so uh tune in at 11 when the speeches stop.
	I know a lot of people like to watch that, and I like to watch it, but in terms of doing a show, I'd rather talk because I am a talk show host.
	So that's that.
	Um we have a lot of ground to cover today.
	I I want to go back to Heather McDonald and her statistics.
	I want to read this again.
	Because writing in the City Journal, she says the overwhelming odds are this most recent assault.
	Remember, now we're ambushing.
	Now we're having people lying in wait to assassinate America's police officers.
	She said it's the direct outcome in Baton Rouge of the political and media frenzy that followed the same police shootings of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile in Minnesota less than two weeks ago.
	And then she writes, that frenzy further amplified the dangerously false narrative that racist police officers are the greatest threat facing young black men today.
	Now, why do I bring up three thousand four hundred and seventy plus people killed in Chicago, Obama's home city so often?
	Because it's his home city, and because it doesn't fit the racial narrative that he wants to advance, especially as it relates to police officers, and I've played that montage again and again.
	I'll play it later in the program today.
	He doesn't talk 3,470 is a lot more than Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin and Freddie Gray and the Cambridge police.
	So and then she goes on to say President Obama bears direct responsibility for the lethal spread of this narrative.
	She goes on in a speech from Poland hours before five officers assassinated was three hours before he spoke out again against cops.
	And in the interim between Dallas and Baton Rouge, of course, black lives matter, pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon, what do we want?
	Dead cops, when do we want them now?
	They get to go to the White House.
	Seriously?
	Who is this guy hanging out with?
	Anyway, so she points out that in a speech from Poland, hours before the five officers assassinated in Dallas and the others injured, Obama misled the nation about policing and race, charging officers nationwide with preying on blacks because of their skin color.
	And then she writes these withering words.
	She wrote, Obama rolled out a litany of junk statistics to prove that the criminal justice system is racist.
	Then five Dallas police officers gunned down out of racial hatred and cop hatred.
	What did the guy say?
	Now Obama's the only one in America that couldn't figure out why this guy shot these cops in Dallas, considering he said he wanted to kill white people and more specifically white police.
	Anyway, so you know, did Obama shelve the incendiary rhetoric and express his unqualified support for law enforcement?
	No, not at all.
	He doubles down.
	Insulting law enforcement yet again, even at as they're grieving for their fallen comrades in the memorial service in Dallas.
	Obama rebuked all of America for its bigotry, paying special attention to alleged police bigotry.
	Obama was fully on notice that the hatred of cops is now reaching homicidal levels.
	And yet this commitment she writes to prosecuting his crusade against phantom police racism, Trump considerations of prudence and safety on the one hand, and decent respect for the fallen on the other.
	Wow.
	Those are pretty powerful words.
	And, you know, look at this.
	He has a history.
	The constitutional expert president of ours.
	Now he can hang out with radicals like the Reverend Wright, Frank Marshall Davis, and uh what's the name of that?
	That Father Flager and Ayers and Dorn, and Olinski is a Linskyite disciple and an acorn organizer.
	Everybody in his life has been radical.
	He is radical.
	Hillary is just as radical.
	Seven hours you can't even get a comment out of Hillary Clinton after officers are assassinated in cold blood, lying in wait to kill these people.
	He's quick after the killings to condemn the violence.
	But he and his administration, and especially his two attorney generals, Holder and Lynch, frankly, you know, we're cowards on race.
	What did Eric Holder say?
	You know, really?
	You know, I look, I'm all for go pro for cops, I want to see.
	Video of every incident.
	I think going forward, that's great.
	But this president, every single time has put a false frame around police encounters that are high profile with black Americans, making it seem like cops are racist when in fact there's no evidence of racism involved.
	That was the case in Cambridge.
	That was the case with Michael Brown and Darren Wilson and Ferguson.
	That was the case of Eric Garner in New York.
	You know why Eric Gardner in New York happened?
	Because the guy was selling loose cigarettes.
	What a stupid law New York has in place.
	They don't have anything better to do.
	And then cops are sent out with quotas and how many tickets they've got to get.
	Good grief.
	So stupid.
	Add to that time and again, the president rushes to judgment, no presumption of innocent for police.
	You know, all these incidents, he claims are driven by racism, uses it to as a narrative to discuss racism.
	When then later it is proven false, he'll never walk it back and say, I was wrong.
	Michael Brown Ferguson speaks out before any facts, evidence, due process, before the presumption of innocence, not granted.
	In the case of cops, cops fight for our presumption of innocence.
	So when's the president gonna have the guts to stand up to groups like Black Lives Matter, which was born of a falsehood.
	Remember, black lives matter.
	You know, hands up, don't shoot.
	That never happened.
	When is he gonna stop inviting them to the White House?
	When is Obama lectured Black Lives Matter formed on a false premise to them to cut the inflammatory rhetoric?
	What do we want dead cops?
	Nowhere to be found.
	Not this president, not this radical.
	Hillary Clinton, she's seeking the advice of these groups.
	He condemns violence against cops, he won't say a word against the main group in America promoting hatred and racial grievances against police officers.
	Nope.
	They get an invite again and again to the Obama White House, constantly going out of his way to talk.
	He's comparing them to the women's suffrage movement.
	He's comparing them to the abolitionist movement.
	One of the great things about America is that individual citizens and groups of citizens can petition their government, can protest, can speak truth to power.
	And that is sometimes messy and controversial.
	But because of that ability to protest and engage in free speech, uh America over time has gotten better.
	We've all benefited from that.
	The abolition movement was contentious.
	Good grief.
	Do you hear what he's saying there?
	Do you do you understand how profound that is?
	He is legitimizing black lives matter and therefore legitimizing their anti-cop agenda, comparing it to the suffrage movement, comparing it to the abolitionist movement.
	Now, if the main thing driving Obama, if the main thing is concern for black lives, then as I have been pointing out, then he would speak out vocally, loudly, passionately, consistently, also too about black on black violence, which is far, far more responsible for the death of young black lives in America, even his home city of Chicago, than anything the police are doing.
	But he doesn't speak out.
	3,470 plus in Chicago alone.
	Now imagine this.
	Imagine if America's first black president spoke to the black community about the violence that is engulfing the black community in some cities.
	It would have the potential to have a tremendous positive impact and save the lives of our fellow human beings.
	Extraordinary reach.
	It could be extraordinarily productive.
	But of course, being a radical leftist, he can't escape his radicalism, his left-wing ideology.
	And as a result, America on his watch is more racially divided, as proven by polls, you know, more polarized, more angry, more on edge, and increasingly more violent than when he took office.
	And Republicans now they're saying they're running on law and order this election.
	Smart to do.
	Because right now, and Trump is running on this in good measure because of Obama and Hillary.
	Now our cops have been so demonized and now being targeted for assassination.
	This leg, you know something?
	There's nothing I can think of that this guy has done that has made our country a better on the economy.
	It's a disgusting mess.
	I have statistics about black Americans.
	I've been putting them on TV.
	If you're black or Latino, guess what?
	You're not doing any better under Obama.
	You know, if you look at the numbers, they're they're astounding.
	African Americans on food stamps since he's president up 58%.
	58%.
	Number of African Americans in poverty is up 10% under Obama.
	Number of African Americans out of the labor force up 20%.
	50% of black teenagers can't get summer jobs.
	The home ownership rate is down for most black Americans now.
	You got median real income, dollars.
	If you whatever you are making in 2008, you're making $2,400 less if you're a black American.
	Good grief.
	It's pathetic, but 90% of the vote goes to the Democratic Party every time.
	President's lecturing, police can make their job a lot easier.
	Seriously?
	It's unbelievable.
	These are unbelievable times we're living in.
	So by the way, don't forget his bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.
	You know, the social Darwinists, all the other crap and rhetoric that he says.
	Oh, yeah, Americans need to tamp down the rhetoric.
	Hillary Clinton responds to the assassination of officer seven hours later.
	Gee, thanks, Hillary.
	Another Milwaukee officer was shot.
	And here we are in Ohio, and they have open carry laws, which I'm in favor of.
	I don't have a problem.
	But when the new Black Panther Party is coming to town, and they're saying they're bringing weapons with them, and Black Lives Matter is saying the same thing.
	You got groups saying they're targeting celebrities for assassination.
	You know, look at look at the economy.
	All the people have messed up.
	Look at now we discover a secret document lifting the veil on this Iranian nuclear deal that would shut the time that the number one state sponsor of terror would need to build in a bomb in half.
	And they gave him the money to do it, 150 billion dollars.
	And he pulled out of Iraq and Syria and created a vacuum for ISIS with the financial benefits of oil that they now control.
	And then, of course, he supported Mohammed Morsi.
	And then, of course, he can't say radical Islamic terrorism.
	And then, of course, you know, we're not safer and that we're not more secure, we're not more prosperous.
	He's doubled the debt.
	He's taken on more debt than every other president before him combined.
	And Hillary's planning to just finish the job he started.
	Well, finishing the job means finishing your country.
	Wake up.
	Because that's what's happening.
	But don't worry, the polls show.
	Well, it's about a 50-50 chance that Hillary Clinton can win.
	Yeah, I'm hopeful.
	I mean, Florida, Trump is up by a couple.
	Ohio is up by a couple.
	Pennsylvania is up by a couple.
	Uh he'll win Indiana, North Carolina.
	I saw Trump was down.
	We got to win North Carolina.
	We got to win Virginia.
	It was tied in Virginia Poll.
	That's decent, but it's not great.
	We're literally hanging in the balance as a country here.
	Now, if we have an agenda that gets our debt under control that makes us energy independent, we we save American jobs by securing the border.
	We make our country safer by securing the border.
	We get rid of Obamacare so we have competition and people can once again afford health care.
	You know, all of which would be a good thing.
	It's a pretty bold agenda.
	Building up our military, saving our VA and and fulfilling promises we've made to our veterans, all good things for the country.
	I I gotta tell you, I I'm I'm j I am so angry.
	I feel so badly for the for the families of these fallen.
	My words, they're in my thoughts and prayers is not the answer.
	The answer is respect for police officers, and it has to start with the president of the United States.
	Good grief.
	These kids will never see their fathers again.
	Great.
	Great.
	I'm so livid.
	Words can't describe it.
	You're not seeing Mitt Romney, you're not seeing John McCain, you're not seeing most of the Republican Senate candidates who are in tight races.
	How much does that hurt?
	I don't think it matters much.
	I mean, I think the reason the reason people nominated Donald Trump is they weren't happy, and frankly, the Bushes are behaving, I think, childishly.
	Childishly?
	Childishly.
	I mean, Jeb lost.
	You know, get over it.
	I mean, the fact is this Republican Party's been awfully good to the Bushes.
	And it's showing remarkable gratitude.
	Mitt Romney.
	Romney refused to endorse Reagan and then I was there in 94 in the debate with Teddy Kenny.
	Refused to say that he was for Reagan Bush in uh in uh in in the eighties.
	He refused to support the contract with America.
	He comes along and says, Oh, I've now changed.
	I'm now a real Republican.
	Well, that lasted as long as long as we were supporting him, Mitt Romney was really happy.
	All right, second hour.
	Sean Hannity Show as we come to you live.
	We are in Cleveland, Ohio, the site of the Republican National Convention, all part of the best election coverage available on your radio dial.
	That was former Speaker of the House, New Kingrich on with George Stephanopoulos.
	Mr. Speaker, how are you?
	Glad you uh could be with us.
	Well, I'm delighted to be with you, and uh we're having quite a uh convention in uh uh Cleveland, and I think it's coming along very, very well.
	I think people are very excited by what's gonna happen over the next four nights, and they're very excited by uh looking for uh you know Trump's speech uh and uh on Thursday night.
	Uh it would be a very important moment in the whole campaign, and uh communicating what kind of president he would be and and why he is uh you know running for uh the presidency.
	So uh so far I I see this as one of the maybe the most exciting convention since uh Reagan in 1980.
	What do you think?
	You know, we're just answering the question.
	There are some crybaby sore losers.
	You know, remember the one of the first questions, if not the first question in the first debate, will you support at the person that wins?
	That that question was really directed at one person at that time, and that was Donald Trump.
	Donald Trump was the only person that said he wouldn't pledge and promise to support the eventual nominee.
	He said he wanted to see how this worked out and whether and how people treated him in the process, whether he was treated fairly.
	They made a big deal about him eventually signing on to the pledge.
	And you have people like John Kasich, and I don't think Ted Cruz is endorsed, even though he is speaking at the convention.
	Uh you mentioned Jeb Bush, Lindsay Graham is another one.
	What do you make of just that broken pledge?
	They gave their word.
	Well, I think you know, politics sometimes does tough things to people, and uh I think that uh if you look at the folks who are are not supporting Trump or at least not showing up a significant number of them, people we beat him.
	And I think that's unfortunate, and I think it's almost ironic that everybody else was eager to have Trump pledge back when they thought he would lose, and then when he won, they kind of forgot that they'd signed the same pledge that they wanted him to sign.
	So, you know, but um but look, we're we're looking to the future.
	You now have a good solid ticket in in uh Trump and Pence.
	Uh you have huge issues with Hillary Clinton, which frankly get worse every day.
	The new report out today that the uh nuclear agreement with Iran actually allows the Iranians to get nuclear weapons in about half the time we've been told publicly the secret side agreement just came up uh you know available today.
	Uh and and every time you turn around there's another story about how uh the Obama Clinton model is failing America.
	So I think uh we have big issues, uh much bigger issues than uh whether or not some disgruntled former candidate shows up.
	And I don't sense anybody here walking around with a long face saying, oh gee, you know, I really miss uh those guys uh they're very happy to be here.
	They're very happy uh I'm on the way to do an event for Senator Rob Portman uh who has got a huge crowd of volunteers here and uh everywhere I've been I spoke to some four hundred folks from New York State this morning.
	They were all very pumped and actually feel like they have a shot at carrying the state for uh with Trump.
	Look at the backdrop of this convention we have now had two incidences where now it's the open assassination of police officers.
	Look at what happened in Nice.
	Then of course before that it was Orlando.
	Before that it was San Bernardino and then Belgium and then you know terrorist attack after terrorist attack.
	You mentioned now we see the secret side deal which allows the Iranians to move much faster than anybody knew and they get the hundred and fifty billion dollars.
	You know, you look at the economy and you can add that to the mix, but these specific issues of security terrorism and the assassination of police what should be happening now?
	Well I'm I'm gonna talk Wednesday night about safety at home and safety abroad and I think that may end up being the biggest issue of the campaign.
	People don't like the fear that they or their loved ones could be killed and they look at what just happened in Nice where this guy gets in a truck and kills eighty-four people.
	They look at what happened at the uh uh nightclub in uh Orlando uh where forty seven people are killed they look what happened in Bangladesh at a delicatessen uh where dozens were killed you know they're kind I think th there's something wrong here and the number of terrorist attacks have gone up they've more than tripled under Barack Obama.
	Uh and so you have to look at the the Clinton Obama model and say, you know, it's not working and it's it's making it dangerous for Americans both at home and abroad that may become the biggest single choice for the fall campaign.
	You know, are you really comfortable with uh Hillary Clinton's policy of failure and her inability to solve the problems or do you want somebody tougher and stronger who's going to uh aggressively go out and try to defeat terrorism.
	There's certain elections that are really choice elections here.
	On if you look at every major issue how to deal with Islamic terrorism, how to deal with immigration, how to deal with Obamacare, uh how to deal with uh building up our military or not building up our military, America's role in the world, uh school or school choice or giving it back to the states, uh constitutional originalist justices versus liberal activist justif justices.
	This is about as close as a choice election as we ever get right I think this is going to be comparable to the election of 1896 or 1828 or 1860.
	I mean the the difference in the future between a a decaying Clinton America paying off the unions while they fail to solve problems versus a very dynamic exciting uh new ideas America led by Donald Trump.
	The difference is so wide that I I don't remember any time in my lifetime we've had this big a choice.
	I I can't think of a time even Reagan versus Jimmy Carter, I don't think it gets uh I don't even think it reaches it wasn't this big a choice.
	I mean Carter had not done nearly as much damage as Obama and Clinton have done and uh so the the turnaround wasn't nearly as difficult and nearly as challenging.
	Yeah.
	Let me talk about moving forward for the campaign.
	You wrote a really nice I thought very complimentary, extremely compli complimentary piece and you said it on my show last night you'll be with us on Hannity tonight.
	As a matter of fact all week you're stuck with me.
	Um I don't know how you ever how how did I ever get you to agree to that but thank you.
	Um but in in all seriousness we we discussed last night Mike Pence and you're extremely happy with the choice although you were in the mix.
	You were the final two.
	Sure, but I think sometimes you look and you say you know uh the other guy for for this moment in time what Donald Trump needed was a a symbol of stability and a symbol of practical outreach and Mike Pence can do that.
	I mean Clista's known Mike since he first came in because she worked on the Ag Committee and he served on the agriculture committee as a freshman.
	So all the way back in 2001 she said, you know he's a really nice guy.
	He's smart uh but he's very low key and he's very positive and he's very friendly.
	And I think that they need that I mean they've already got aggressive policy oriented public speaker in Trump.
	They not necessarily need a second person who's like Trump, which I would be like in terms of style.
	They need, I think somebody who is a little more able to sit down with Paul Ryan or or with uh Rich McConnell or with others of that you know that kind of background and say, okay guys, let's be practical, let's apply common sense.
	Uh and I think Pence is going to be very, very good in that role.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So if you're not on Trump moving forward and and I've I've thrown out a couple of ideas.
	I think one you like more than another I would like the idea I think you successfully proved to the American people that when you put ideas and promises, bold solutions down on paper that and you make a promise give us this job and we will get this done.
	In your case it was ten items it was called the contract with America.
	I would like to see Trump's promises to America.
	I brought it up with Paul Manafort he seemed to like the idea last night when I when I broached the issue with him and the second thing is maybe start naming some names of people the type of people that Donald Trump would surround himself with.
	For example, I read in the Hill yesterday that you are open to taking a significant role within the within an administration of Donald Trump.
	Sure look I'm gonna do anything I can to work and help uh the next president states succeed particular particularly if it's Donald Trump because I can imagine because I'm not quite sure how I could work with Hillary Clinton who I think is the most corrupt person ever to be nominated for president.
	But I I would I would gladly and sincerely as a patriot work with Donald Trump.
	But I think he's gonna have a good team.
	I'm I'm hoping you'll be able to convince Rudy Giuliani uh to be the uh Department of Homeland Security.
	I'm hoping he'll be able to convince uh Chris Christie to be the attorney general and he's got a number of very talented people out there that could come in and do some big jobs.
	I can name some other names Pam Bondi, the AG of Florida, I can name people like Bobby Gindle.
	Uh we could talk about General Flynn, talk about people like yourself.
	Um I think there's a a really strong bench maybe people like uh former Governor Perry of Texas who did a great job in the economy there.
	I think he could play a big significant role.
	So I I think you can imagine Trump assembly an all-star team that would begin to move the government in the right direction and move the economy in the right direction and move our our national security in the right direction.
	And I think that's the kind of team he's gonna need because it's a big big big job.
	Yeah.
	Let's talk a little bit about how you a respond to the predictable attacks by the Democrats.
	Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic they want to poison the air water kill children.
	How do you respond to that and throw Granny over the cliff and then what is the best strategy to defeat her?
	Is it with ideas?
	Is it a positive campaign?
	Is it a combination of pointing out that she lies a lot is dishonest, probably deserve to be indicted well I think I think the first phase Republicans have got to come head on and and express their concern and their commitment as you've pointed out when some thirty four hundred people get killed on the south side of Chicago during the Obama presidency, you know Republicans ought to be right in there saying you know we we want to fix the safety problem so that your child can live, so that your neighborhood can be safe, so that your family can can barbecue outside and not worry about a drive-by shooting.
	I mean I think we have to go in and fill the vacuum you just saw the uh Democrat prosecutor fail for the fourth straight time trying to uh uh take the uh policemen who were involved uh in the in the death in Baltimore last year now you know that's an example where we ought to be stepping in and saying this this person ought ought to be kicked out I mean this is prosecutorial malfeasance to engage in that kind of behavior.
	So we have to be prepared to be on black radio and we have to be prepared to carry the fight offensively.
	So it's not us saying, hey, I'm not homophobic or I'm not, you know, I'm not racist.
	It's us saying, let me show you the positive things we're doing that would improve the lives of people you're talking about.
	So I put those statistics up on the screen last night, about 58 percent.
	I mean, I think they're they're pretty breathtaking.
	Fifty eight percent of African-Americans, an increase of 58 percent of African-Americans on food stamps.
	the frustration when you do talk about the police the president invites black lives matter a group that chants pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon what do we want dead cops when do we want them now they've been to the White House a number of times.
	Hillary consults them on issues involving the criminal justice system.
	There's three thousand four hundred and seventy plus Chicago uh residents that have been killed since Obama's been president.
	He never touches that but he's wrong on Ferguson he's wrong on Trayvon he's wrong on K Bridge and you mentioned Baltimore four of the six already found not guilty.
	Well and I think I think that it it's a it's a tragedy for America that the first African American president who's had two African American attorney generals after seven and a half years, Gallup reports that it's the worst race relations in seventeen years.
	And it's just a sign of a tragic failure of leadership on the part of President Obama.
	But I do think we have to show on a positive way, and I I very much appreciated what Senator Tim Scott did in a very powerful series of speeches on the Senate floor talking about race in America.
	And I think we can come up with ideas, and we can come up with solutions, and we can improve things dramatically.
	And we've had governors uh who've been doing great jobs.
	Uh you mentioned Rick Perry, John Casey.
	Uh by the way, where is John Kasich as it relates to?
	He made a promise and pledge too.
	It's a little annoying.
	I know, uh that's part of the same problem of uh sort of the crybaby caucus.
	Uh but uh the other thing you guys say, I think it's a one-to-punch.
	I think we need a punch of very positive ideas that really address the needs and concerns of all Americans, and then I need to put we need a punch that defines just how corrupt and just how bad Hillary Clinton is, and what a disaster her policies have been.
	We need to w we we do need to use both of those punches to knock her out.
	The thing I think that I have always liked about you the most, and we've been friends since nineteen ninety.
	You're always looking for solutions for problems that the country faces.
	And with ninety-five million Americans out of the labor force, and fifty million in poverty, and forty-six million on food stamps, and one in five American families without a single member working.
	One in six males eighteen to thirty-four are either in prison or in their mother and father's basement because they can't find a job.
	I you know, we've got to fix the country for them.
	So the the ladder of success that so many of us have been fortunate to be able to climb is available to every American, and that's what motivates me, and I love that you always come up with great answers, ideas, solutions.
	You're always thinking, and usually you're right and your opponents are wrong.
	So anyway, thank you for being with us.
	We're going to continue doing that, and I think that's going to be a hallmark.
	And then Paul Ryan, to his credit, has put together an entire package of proposals, and looking across everything from poverty to health to the economy to taxes.
	I haven't seen I haven't seen a uh an articulate agenda there, but I will talk tonight.
	Uh former speaker of the House New Kingrich is with us.
	We appreciate it.
	I think it's fair to say number one, any of us would be pretty angry.
	Number two, that the Cambridge police uh acted stupidly.
	I think Ferguson laid bare a problem that is not unique to St. Louis or that area, and is not unique to our time.
	And that is a simmering distrust uh that exists between too many police departments and too many communities of color.
	We've heard stories of some of these young men uh being stopped and put on the ground by police for no reason.
	And we have to close the justice gap.
	How justice is applied, but also how it is perceived, how it is experienced.
	Eric Holder understands this.
	That's what we saw in Ferguson this summer when Michael Brown was killed and the community was divided, but the anger and the emotion that followed his death awakened our nation once again to the reality that people in this room have long understood, which is in too many communities around the country, a gulf of mistrust exists between local residents and law enforcement.
	I think that there are circumstances in which uh trust between communities and law enforcement have broken down and and uh individuals or entire departments uh may not have uh the training or the accountability uh to make sure that uh you know they are protecting and serving uh all people and not just some.
	What's also true is that there are still instances in which a young black boy or brown boy is not being evaluated in terms of risk, precisely in the same way as a white young person might be uh by the police.
	Too many instances of what appears to be police officers uh interacting with individuals, uh primarily African American, often poor, uh in ways that raise troubling questions.
	Too many young men of color feel targeted by law enforcement, guilty of walking while black or driving while black, judged by stereotypes that fuel fear and resentment and hopelessness.
	And the worst part of it is it scars the hearts of our children scars the hearts of white children who grow unnecessarily fearful of somebody who doesn't look like them.
	Stains the heart of black children who feel as if no matter what he does, he'll always be under suspicion.
	That is not the society we want.
	Now the challenge for us is the federal government is is that we don't run these police forces.
	I can't federalize every police force in the country and force them to retrain.
	But what I can do is to start working with them collaboratively, uh, so that they can begin this process of change uh themselves.
	We have to own up to the fact that occasionally there are going to be problems here.
	Just as there are in every other occupation.
	Uh there's there's some bad politicians uh who are corrupt.
	There are uh folks in the business community or on Wall Street who don't do the right thing.
	Well, there's some police who aren't doing the right thing.
	I think there are police departments that have to do some soul searching.
	I think there's some communities that have to do some soul searching.
	But I think we as a country have to do some soul searching.
	All of us as Americans should be troubled by these shootings, because these are not isolated incidents.
	They're symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system.
	I would hope that police organizations are also respectful of the frustrations that people in these communities feel, and not just dismiss these protests and these complaints as political correctness or as politics or attacks on police.
	They're legitimate issues that have been raised, and there's data and evidence to back up the concerns that are being expressed by these protesters.
	And if police organizations and departments acknowledge that there's a problem and there's an issue, then that too is going to contribute to real solutions.
	And as I said yesterday, that is what's gonna ultimately help make the job of being a cop a lot safer.
	It is in the interests of police officers that their communities trust, and that the kind of rancor and suspicion that exists right now is alleviated.
	All right, 24 now till the top of the hour as we come to you live.
	We are at the RNC convention.
	We're in Cleveland, we're in Ohio, right in the heart of all that's happening here.
	So the nation is now facing terrorism, and we have a leader that won't acknowledge radical Islamic terrorists.
	He thinks ISIS is the JV team.
	He says they are contained.
	He even said it again after the most recent attacks.
	And then we have a president.
	That is his rhetoric against police officers in the lead up to now what is the targeted assassination of our nation's law enforcement.
	And yet this president now lectures everybody else to tone down the rhetoric as we head into the political season.
	It is the height of hypocrisy.
	This president that has rushed to judgment time and time again, never allowing the presumption of innocence, never allowing due process, never allowing evidence to be presented, being dead wrong, a four-time loser.
	Now that we have a fourth Baltimore police officer acquitted in the case of Freddie Gray, four out of four.
	They're O for four.
	In the case of Ferguson, he was O for one there.
	Uh Cambridge police, O for two.
	Trayvon Martin, O for three.
	Baltimore, O for four.
	And yet he builds up this sentiment again and again and again.
	And we have the two biggest security problems our nation has faced in a long time, and this president is on the wrong side every time.
	Anyway, joining us to discuss, debate both of these issues, Sebastian Gorka.
	He's the author of the New York Times best-selling book, Defeating Jihad, former NYPD Commissioner, Bernard Kerrick.
	Welcome both of you back to the program.
	Bernie, let me start with you.
	We've got the targeting of the police uh again and again.
	You just heard the montage.
	The president has been on this rhetorical, has had this rhetorical battle against law enforcement going on for years.
	He's rushed to judgment in every high profile case that has come down, but he virtually ignores three thousand four hundred and seventy uh people killed in his home city of Chicago since he's been president.
	Your thoughts.
	You know what, Sean, I I think uh the bottom line is he he should uh practice what he preaches when it comes to the rhetoric.
	You know, yesterday he um in the aftermath of the assassination of these cops in Baton Rouge, he said that we have to tone down the rhetoric that we have to, you know, that People have to uh you know not be so judgmental.
	You know what?
	He should have been saying that from the beginning.
	But this attack on police all across the country, and and we're up ninety-four percent, ninety-four percent right now over the last year in cops gunned down in this country in one year, ninety-four, almost a hundred percent in clear.
	Do you for the the top cle uh Cleveland police union official has said Obama has blood on his hands?
	One, do you agree with that?
	Two, they have open carry here in Ohio.
	By the way, I'm a very big pro-second amendment guy.
	Uh I have a uh concealed carry permit in New York.
	I've had it all my adult life in whatever state I've lived in.
	Do you think when the new Black Panther Party is getting permits to open carry weapons, would it be wise in light of what's happened to uh at least temporarily suspend it, knowing that there are people here that want to target cops?
	Uh I gotta be honest, Sean, I'm a bit surprised because this is a national event.
	This is a uh, you know, a presidential event.
	I'm surprised the Secret Service couldn't come in uh conjunction with the governor, uh and the other agencies and put a hold uh at least at least in the surrounding area of the convention.
	Um, you know, they do listen, you have open carry laws in certain states, but you can't go into the federal building in that state with a gun.
	You can't go into the wheel.
	Well, I will say this in their defense because I'm here, I'm on the ground, and the the amount of in other words, i if you look at the perimeter that they have set up around where the actual convention is, it is literally impenetrable.
	It is I mean, for me to get to the convention, I've I have to go blocks away and get wanted and and go through security, then I have to get on a shuttle bus, then I get over to the arena.
	I mean, it's it's that difficult for everybody.
	Well, listen, of course, you know, they're doing their job.
	You don't want to make the cops jobs harder though.
	You know, you get some lunatic that wants to show, you know, he he's got a weapon, wants to go out the air and protest to demonstrate, he may not have a negative uh, you know, thing in his mind.
	He may not be out there to hurt anybody, but you have a bunch of raven lunatics that are.
	You have to be able to do that.
	Well, they they're here.
	They say they're here and and yeah, and they're gonna be with open carry.
	Let me bring in Dr. Gorka.
	Dr. Gorker, uh a president that won't acknowledge terrorism.
	Once again, we see the carnage.
	He still doesn't say the words radical Islamic terrorism.
	You say we can defeat these people, but you can't if you don't identify them, correct?
	Absolutely, absolutely.
	This is you know, the the analogy is if if somebody walks into a hospital with cancer and the doctor says you've got a cold, well, that patient's gonna die, and that's what we've been doing for seven years.
	We said there is no such such thing as jihad.
	Uh the guy in Orlando was a sexually repressed, homosexual, the uh the individuals uh feeding their wives, eating pork, whatever it is.
	You can't talk about jihad.
	Well, if you can't talk about jihad, then the jihadis will keep on winning.
	That's the truth, Sean.
	Isn't this the truth, though?
	The groups that chant, uh, what do we want dead cops?
	When do we want them now?
	Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon, Dr. Gorka.
	That to me is a terroristic threat.
	And that's what we hear from Black Lives Matter.
	And then the president invites on numerous occasion occasions these people to the White House, compares this to the the suffrage, women's suffrage movement and the abolitionist movement.
	And I'm thinking, really?
	They're calling in the streets for dead cops, and you're inviting them to the White House and you're comparing them to past American heroes?
	Look, it it really makes my stomach turn.
	I lose my appetite and I get angry, but I have to applaud you and your team.
	Whenever you put those montages together, you you just make the slam dunk case.
	Every single sound bite you've delivered from the president tells you that we have a commander in chief that is stoking the flame.
	This is a man who's saying, you know, arrested while walking because you're black.
	This is a man who just said we have to retrain and re-educate all policemen in America.
	What is this?
	North Korea?
	This is outrageous.
	The people who put on the uniform of the police of the police officers every day, they now risk their lives Because they may be assassinated.
	Not shot by a bank robber, but assassinated in cold blood because they have the wrong skin color or because they're wearing a badge.
	We we have we have a a black president who has created divisiveness and racial tension in in ways that we haven't seen since the 1950s short.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's funny.
	You think back uh Bernie Carrick.
	Remember the comment Obama made if they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.
	He's saying this weekend, well, police can make the job of being a cop a lot safer by admitting their failures.
	Well, the statistics don't bear that out.
	Larry Elder was on last night.
	We went over all of those numbers together, and now he's lecturing everybody about tamping down inflammatory rhetoric.
	And you know, Hillary responds seven hours after the assassination of these officers in Baton Rouge.
	Uh, I'm not particularly impressed.
	And we had another Milwaukee police officer also shot in an attack.
	And if we go back even further recently, it's it's San Antonio and it's other cities, uh, Chicago, Dallas, and now what happened in Baton Rouge, this seems to now be open warfare against our America's police.
	It's the same exact rhetoric, Sean that was going on back in the 60s and 70s, early 80s, with the black liberation army uh black liberation army and the Black Panther Party.
	And what they were doing then is they were making 911 calls, having cops respond to certain areas, and then they were assassinating those cops.
	We're seeing exactly the same thing happen today.
	What happened in um Baton Rouge is exactly what they were doing back there, uh in in the 60s, 70s, and early 80s, and you see an increase in all of these groups the Black Panthers, the Black Lives Matter, the you know, there's these other um,
	you know, anti uh white, anti-American groups that are growing in numbers, and it's all as a result of our political leaders that are basically telling people that there's a racial divide between the the police in the community and that the police are out there to target minorities when it's not true.
	It really is not true, and you know what?
	Think of what you did in New York with Rudy Giuliani, and when you guys went out there and you went into the most dangerous areas based on crime statistics, and you saved lives by reducing the number of murders to from starting at twenty five hundred and then reducing it down to less than three hundred.
	Anyway, I appreciate it real quick.
	That's what's ignored by everybody.
	They the minority communities were the biggest benefactors for the from the crime reduction.
	Yeah.
	All right, listen, I want to thank you both.
	You're both uh heroes to me.
	We really appreciate you being with us.
	This is these are really, really tough times, and I cannot believe that America's best, uh, those that protect us, those that serve us, those that put their lives on the line for us are now being subject to assassination.
	It is it is beyond any conscience or soul that anybody can have to treat people that way.
	I would hope that police organizations are also respectful of the frustrations that people in these communities feel, and not just dismiss these protests and these complaints as political correctness or as politics or attacks on police.
	They're legitimate issues that have been raised, and there's data and evidence to back up the concerns that are being expressed by these protesters.
	And if police organizations and departments acknowledge that there's a problem and there's an issue, then that too is going to contribute to real solutions.
	And as I said yesterday, that is what's gonna ultimately help make the job of being a cop a lot safer.
	It is in the interests of police officers that their communities trust, and that the kind of rancor and suspicion that exists right now is alleviated.
	And you gotta be promoting.
	That's the thing, because like when I was talking to a young brother, this nigga working at the little fool's, I can't remember that like some taco place by the college and sh working for the right people.
	And I'm telling Don, you gotta get skilled.
	And this nigga telling me he already he went to the um, you know, you had a job core.
	He already got the sh.
	Yeah, the carpet is all certified, got everything.
	But again, the problem also, promotion.
	We don't know that you carpet it.
	How we know?
	So, what we do if we if if my mom don't know that you carpet, who's she gonna f with?
	The cracker, the Arab, the Chinese.
	We gotta be thinking, man.
	We gotta be promoting.
	Every time we chop it up, we go meet a nigga.
	Here, this is my business card, nigga.
	I do carbon, I cut hair, I sell this, I sell that, I paint.
	That's what we gotta be on all day, every day.
	So we can f with our own because these niggas don't give no f about us.
	These Arabs, these fing Indian, don't they don't give no two f about you.
	Only when you're giving them money.
	Only when you give them your money.
	Other than that, f no, it's f you.
	All right, that was the Baton Rouge killer, Eugene Long in a rant that he had made, one of many one of the things we have got to evaluate.
	By the way, news roundup information overload.
	We are in Cleveland, we're at the RNC convention.
	And what's so frustrating about both of those comments, first of all, you hear the guy, we've got to do a better job of identifying these lunatics before they act.
	We need literally, we need like a department of homeland security media focus.
	I don't know what you call it.
	But we've got because so often we find out, oh, this is what he wrote here, this is what he wrote there, this is what he said five days ago, this is what he said ten days ago.
	And that that creates terroristic threats.
	That person, we have the right to identify them, investigate them, and hopefully prevent, you know, tragedies like this.
	You know, think back to the one tragedy.
	People say, Yeah, well, Sam Bernardino, we saw this guy and a bunch of people working in the garage late at night, it was suspicious, but we didn't want to be called bigoted, so therefore we kept our mouths shut.
	No, we gotta open our mouths, we gotta watch social media.
	These people want attention, they're craving attention, they're getting it on social media, and they are literally telling us ahead of time exactly what they're gonna do.
	It's unbelievable to me.
	And before that, there's the president.
	President, why is he blaming law enforcement?
	I don't care if it's Dallas, I don't care if it's Baton Rouge.
	You you you know, these guys were ambushed.
	These cops are being assassinated.
	And the rhetoric that he has been using now for years, and the rush to judgment that he has been guilty of four years, has now impacted people's minds.
	He's created a narrative that is false, that police want to go out and kill innocent people.
	That's not the average cop.
	The average cop puts on the uniform, they obey the laws, they do their job, they protect, they serve, they risk their lives for you and me and every single American.
	And now they're getting assassinated.
	They're getting ambushed.
	Well, if the cops do a little better job, you know, they're a big part of the problem.
	No, that's not what the problem is.
	And by the way, the president's a four-time loser by identifying, rushing to judgment without evidence due process or the assumption of innocence, presumption of innocence.
	He's out there, well, that could have been me, Trayvon, 35 years ago.
	Trayvon could have looked like my son.
	Uh Ferguson.
	We all saw what happened in in in Ferguson in our country, as he speaks, you know, on some foreign soil, someplace somewhere.
	Or when he speaks out in in the Cambridge police acted stupidly.
	Why, they arrested his friend.
	No, they didn't act stupidly.
	Anyway, here to help sort a lot of this out.
	Pastor Daryl Scott is with us.
	He's a founder, senior pastor of the New Spirit Revival Center.
	He's a Trump supporter.
	The Reverend Charles Christian Adams, presiding pastor of the Hartford Memorial Baptist Church in Detroit, Michigan.
	Welcome both of you.
	Pastor Scott, I find the president's I find the president's r rhetoric.
	I find him the idea that he meets with Black Lives Matter, a group that has members chanting, what do we want?
	Dead cops, when do we want them now?
	Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
	I find it abhorrent.
	Do you believe he's contributed to an atmosphere that is increasing the distrust and the hatred of police?
	Absolutely.
	I mean, Black Lives Matter began with good intent, but it's devolved into just bad activity.
	The thing is, you can't do the right thing the wrong way.
	And now after his speech on yesterday, it seems like he's trying to place the blame for those murders on the American public or on different political parties.
	He's telling us that we can't we have to give up the exercise of free speech in order to uh uh walk in fear that somebody's going to murder us.
	You know, he's saying we can't have inflammatory rhetoric.
	Wait a minute.
	First, you want to take away the second amendment.
	Now you want to take away the first amendment.
	You want to take away, you want to tell us, well, Don't say anything wrong and they won't kill the police.
	That's like telling the woman, don't wear a miniskirt, you won't get raped.
	You can't do you can't say these things to placate these criminal activities.
	And you know, social media, like you said, Sean, it's giving a platform and giving leadership to those who should not have that platform.
	The idiots and subversives and fools are getting platforms out of social media and using those uh platforms in order to do harm to American society.
	It's not good at all.
	Let me ask you, Reverend, do you think what he's saying?
	Reverend uh Charles Christian Adams, do you think it's appropriate for the president of the United States of America to meet with a group whose members are chanting, what do we want dead cops, when do we want them now?
	Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
	Do you think what what message does that send when people from that group get to go to the White House?
	Is that appropriate to you?
	Well, first of all, that group really doesn't have a central leadership core.
	They've tried to kind of form one as they've gained uh notoriety and visibility, but that's an internet based organization, and the different chapters do not represent everybody who's in the group.
	And there's bad and bad apples in every bunch.
	And what President Obama is trying to illness.
	I didn't ask you if there's bad, I didn't ask you if there's wait well.
	I didn't ask you if there's bad apples.
	Nobody nobody's saying every cop is perfect.
	There are some bad cops.
	I think there's ways that we can monitor police behavior.
	I think GoPro is not talking about cops talking about black lives matter.
	I'm asking, I am asking you that movement who aren't saying crying up like bacon and pigs in a bar.
	Excuse me.
	It was a would you like me to play the chance for you?
	Because the chants are pretty darn loud.
	pretty significant part of that audience was chanting that.
	Pigs in a blanket, brown like bacon!
	Pigs in a blanket, brown like bacon!
	He's in a blanket, he's in the blanket, I might make it.
	What do we want dead cops?
	When do we want them now?
	You may whoever is in the position of leadership in that group should stand up and denounce that rhetoric.
	That's rhetoric right there.
	That's inflammatory rhetoric right there.
	Okay.
	Now, whoever is in leadership, you're saying they have no central leadership.
	Well, whatever leadership they have, they need to stand up and denounce that.
	I denounce it.
	But I'm telling you this, that doesn't matter.
	All right, if you denounce that, here's my question.
	If you den if you denounce that, do you denounce the president of the United States of America and the Democratic Party uh presumptive nominee, Hillary Clinton, continuing to meet with these people?
	Doesn't there need to be some standards among top leaders not associating with radical groups?
	Look, we meet with all kinds, we meet with hostile nations.
	We meet with all kinds of people.
	President Obama has tried to bring we're not meeting with the head of sense of calm.
	We're not meeting with the young man, the the people who are committing violence are hiding behind the movement.
	Really, they're they're not even in the movement for change.
	And it's better to have these kids with these this field of expression than for kids who are out here finding guns and other types of violence to express themselves.
	Wouldn't you rather have them chanting?
	Wouldn't you rather have them?
	No, I I think if no, because you know what?
	There's listen, you're the wait a minute, wait a minute.
	You're the preacher, and the Bible does say something about lusting in your heart, doesn't it?
	And that if you lust in your heart, you commit adultery.
	So you're saying, wouldn't I rather them chanting?
	If you're beginning to think about killing cops and what do we want, dead cops?
	Uh no, you're i if you can go there mentally, spiritually, emotionally.
	Daryl Scott, tell me if I'm wrong, Pastor Scott.
	Is that not the beginning of the process of going there?
	Yes, let me tell you something, Sean.
	Black Lives Matter attracts the radical element of society.
	If Black Lives Matter denounce violence and then squelch and suppress violence whenever they had an activity, if someone did try to step out in violent rhetoric, whatever, if they immediately uh suppress that, you would see them lose membership.
	It attracts the the violent element, it attracts the uh subversive ra subversive radical element of society.
	That's the attraction right there.
	And so they need to make some type of statement that uh that that that you know I listen, I gotta tell you something.
	This is very, very frustrating, you know.
	And then the president compares them to the compares this to the su um hang on let me say something.
	Then the president compares them to the women's suffrage movement, the abolition movement, and I'm like, what where is this president that he's so right?
	He can't say radical Islamic terrorism.
	There is something pathologically off about this man.
	I don't know totally completely what it is.
	I know that deep in his heart he is a radical, has always been a radical.
	You know, I would would you go to the church of Pastor Reverend Wright where he's screaming at the pulpit, G D America, not God bless America, G D America, G D America, the Sunday after 911 America's chickens coming home to roost.
	You think that's appropriate, Pastor White, uh Pastor Adams?
	No, no, look.
	I'm asking, do you think that's appropriate?
	Would you go to that church?
	Yes, or I believe that Yes or no.
	Would you go to that church?
	Jeremiah Wright has been to my church and I've been to Trinity many times.
	Oh, so you would go to hang out with him.
	So you'd go to a church of a guy that says G D America.
	Jeremiah Wright's your good friend.
	My good friend, and he is a veteran of the city.
	G D of the arm for G D America.
	G D America?
	You go to the church of G D America?
	You go there.
	America's chickens.
	I'm at home.
	No, no, no.
	Not God bless America.
	God America.
	You're proud of that?
	Oh, I want to answer this.
	You're proud of that?
	I agree with it.
	But if we agree, G D Americ You want God not to bless America, but you want G D America.
	We are either a nation that believes in freedom of speech, or we are a nation that doesn't.
	I didn't talk about it.
	It's not about freedom of speech.
	Freedom of speech.
	Why should Barack Obama tell us not to exercise our freedom of speech?
	Because we might get to get killed by a subversive.
	Wait a minute.
	I want to go one at a time now.
	Daryl Scott, I want to ask you a question.
	Pastor Scott, would you ever go to that church?
	No, I wouldn't go nowhere near that church.
	And you know what's so hypocritical about it?
	You want to condemn America while you exercise America's freedom.
	You want to take advantage of America's benefits and then condemn the country that provides the benefits to you.
	How hypocritical is that?
	Well, Pastor, it's hypocritical to say freedom and then try to stop people from saying what they believe.
	Either we are free to speak what we believe or we are not.
	How can we fight for freedom that doesn't exist?
	We're not trying to stop them from saying anything.
	We're trying to stop them from murdering police.
	We're trying to stop them from inciting civil dis uh uh uh disunity.
	Think about it.
	You even in free speech, you can't holler fire in a crowded movie theater.
	There are some things uh, even in your exercise of free speech that you should be prohibited from saying.
	You can't say that you say that when they you haven't heard any of you condemn the people who have threatened the president, they threaten his life.
	Who's threatened the president?
	Who?
	Who's threatening the president?
	Wait a minute.
	I want to know who give me the name of the person that he has been given the name of the person that has threatened the president.
	Give me the name in the hall of Congress to his face.
	Nobody condemned any when they call him a liar to his face.
	Sean, I didn't hear you condemn him when they called a liar.
	Listen, I have said again and again Well, I think the president has lied to us.
	I think Hillary's lied to us, and I think they've lied repeatedly but appropriate.
	No, it's if you listen, if somebody tells a lie, you know, look at the interview uh with the FBI director and and Trey Gowdy, he says Hillary lied again and again and again and again and again.
	If she lies, I call a lie for what it is.
	You know, there's a there's a f phrase in the Bible, Pastor, you ought to know it better than me.
	You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
	I got I gotta go, guys.
	I appreciate it.
	Friends and talk to your neighbors.
	I want you to talk to them whether they're independent or whether they are Republican.
	I want you to argue with them and get in their face.
	We talk to these folks because they potentially have the best answers, so I know who's asked to kick.
	I'm gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us.
	Oh, well, reward our friends, punish our enemies.
	They bring a knife, we'll bring a gun.
	We're gonna kill I don't know who's asked to kick here.
	Get in their face.
	Get in their face.
	Oh, now we're gonna get lectured by by President civility on the need for civility.
	Uh their plan is for dirty air and dirty water.
	Oh, the their social Darwinists.
	I am so tired of phony, just phony hypocrites.
	He doesn't have a clue.
	Then the president goes out, oh, police can make the job of being a cop a lot safer by admitting their failures.
	Why do you say that in the aftermath of the assassination of our nation's law enforcement officers?
	It makes me so angry.
	I can't even describe my literally my blood pressure is going through the roof.
	I'm so pissed off.
	I cannot take this anymore.
	And then we have Hillary Clinton, fifty-seven percent of the country thinks she ought to be indicted over the email server scandal.
	Then you got the rest of the country think she's a liar, dishonest, not trustworthy.
	And I'm thinking, really?
	And she has a chance of winning?
	Anyway, glad you're with us.
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	All right, let's get to our busy telephones here as we start with MJ is in Florida.
	MJ, how are you?
	Welcome to Cleveland and the RNC convention.
	And hey, uh Sean, how are you?
	Um I've called you a few times, Semper Five, former Marine.
	Yeah, I think I'm like a piece of garbage ex-marine that I won't even identify.
	I am I had so much stuff I wanted to talk to you about.
	My family's in law enforcement and the Marine Corps, and um I get sick every morning when they have to leave the house to do their job.
	And I honestly was waiting for the um Obama to say some stupid crap yesterday like he did in Dallas last week, but because he didn't, I just heard Hillary put her giant foot in her big fat mouth today in front of a podium that had Black Lives Matter on it and NAACP and the stuff she said, I really hope you play on your show when you get a chance.
	And she was pandering to that audience because I think she was like, Oh my goodness, Obama dropped the ball yesterday.
	So let me let me pick up his rhetoric of divisiveness where he left off last week in Dallas, and let me not fan the flames, but let me pour some gasoline on it so we get some real good protests going on, you know, just a little bit over there where the RNC's going on.
	She's got some nerve.
	So if Newton needs a little advice or Trump needs some vice, or Pence needs some advice on how to how to uh run the election, you hate America?
	Vote for Hillary.
	You have no heart for this country, vote for Hillary.
	You want to take the Constitution and wipe you, you know what with it?
	Vote for Hillary.
	Because the same people who take this Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the amendments with their first amendment and their second amendment that they want to hide behind when they need it most.
	The same people do not want due process for these police officers.
	They don't want I I can't take it anymore.
	I am sitting here shaking.
	I am so upset.
	Um listen, I gotta tell you, when I saw this story yesterday, my blood is boiling.
	You know, when I forget about it.
	I don't have any water left to boil, it's boiled dry.
	I gotta tell you, when I watch another terrorist attack, another terrorist attack, another terrorist attack.
	I think of the president's anti-cop language.
	I think of him being wrong and rushing to judgment and not giving due process or the presumption of innocence to cops, that makes me angry.
	Meeting with Black Lives Matter repeatedly, a group that says, What do we want dead cops?
	When do we want them now?
	Not mentioning acknowledging radical Islamic terrorism, the JV team.
	They're contained.
	I mean, I just go on and on.
	It's it is so pathologically different and bizarre and weird and strange.
	I warned all of you back in 07 and 08, he was a radical.
	We did special hour programming week after week about how how he is out of touch with the mainstream and all of the fruits of his radicalism are now coming into fruition.
	I have the same warnings, the same admonitions about hiring Hillary Clinton, who is a known liar, corrupt, just crooked in every single way to be your next president.
	Unbelievable.
	And you know what?
	If I I honestly think if she if she wins, I just lose hope.
	Let's say hi to Christopher.
	He's holding down the fort in New York City, our hometown, AM seven ten, W O R, the Talk of New York, New Jersey, Long Island.
	Welcome to Cleveland, Christopher.
	What's going on?
	Well, Sean, I just want to say it is an honor to talk to you and to be on your radio show.
	What's going on?
	The honor's all mine, sir.
	Sean, I have to disagree with Mike Pence as Donald Trump's VP pick.
	Because I don't feel that Mike Pitts and Donald Trump are on the same page.
	I watched the sixty minutes interview last night.
	Donald Trump dominated that whole interview.
	Mike Pitts and him don't agree.
	And I don't think that's a good thing.
	Whoa whoa.
	Wait a minute.
	I interviewed Pence the other night for an hour on Friday night.
	Let me tell you something.
	They agree on ninety-five percent.
	Let me are you married, for example?
	No, me, no, I'm not married.
	All right, did you well have you ever been married?
	No, never been married.
	I didn't found the right woman yet.
	You ever have a girlfriend?
	Yes.
	Did you and that girlfriend agree a hundred percent of the time?
	Of course not.
	No.
	Okay.
	So you're never gonna have two people that agree on everything.
	Now, with that said, you know what?
	I don't see much disagreement.
	Uh I question Pence about their disagreements, and they're really insignificant.
	And what on the big issues, and I think the pretty bold agenda that Trump is trying to transform the country back into it what it once was, I think they're in full agreement.
	I think it's a conservative agenda.
	I've said it from the beginning.
	I think he means what he says, and this is where America now has their choice.
	Well, I have a fear that if Hillary Clinton picks a woman or picks an African American to be her VP pick, I don't know if my Pence.
	What do you mean if she picks an Amer uh look listen?
	If you want to play gender, race, um identity politics, you can you can you can do that all you want.
	But to me and you, but between me and you, I don't really see I you know, I it people vote for the top of the ticket unless there's a big problem with the bottom of the ticket.
	For the most part, it doesn't influence elections.
	All right, but I gotta run.
	Thank you, buddy.
	Elaine is in Pennsylvania, which is now a swing state, Donald Trump winning in the latest poll.
	What's up, Elaine?
	How are you?
	We're glad you called.
	Hey, son.
	How are you doing?
	Hey, look at that.
	Um your programs have not felt and fallen on past years.
	I've listened to you, I don't know how many years, but this is the first time I'm calling in.
	Um I traveled extensively for thirty years for a technical company.
	I've been all over the world.
	And I'll tell you what, as a woman, as a woman who has a carry permit, leaving the second amendment, and I do a lot of volunteering.
	I think more pe women need to come out because we are in big trouble as far as terror and what's happening within our country itself.
	I I am happy to hear that tonight Trump's gonna be talking in reference to make America safe again.
	Because I'll tell you, I have never felt more unsafe in my life than I have in the last couple of years.
	And it is getting to the point where I I I I speak to everybody and I don't know on both sides of the party, and women are uh are they're just going out and and getting carry permits.
	People are are afraid, they're listening to the news every night, and I have nieces and nephews, and I have friends who are first responders, and when I see what happened over the weekend again, my stomach is turning, and I'm not a weak woman.
	I am a strong woman.
	I and I can't even talk to anybody at this point who is even thinking about voting for Hillary Clinton.
	I had thirty years of I had to take uh go over and sigh my life away because I had this uh company of patient data and understand that if I was to do anything with with w with manipulating data I would be put in jail fired and fined and I can't believe we have this woman who's running for president.
	So I just wanted to tell you it's not falling on deaf ears and I want to thank you and people on your show for everything.
	Listen I just hope the American people if uh you know pain is a great awakener sometimes people think pain is a bad thing fear is a bad thing.
	I disagree.
	I think fear makes you stronger and helps you when you conquer fear you then become courageous.
	You know I think the same thing the pain of failure of an administration that's been so bad as this one I think hopefully paves the way the people wake up they want to fix the economy.
	They want America to have their role in the world put back in place as it was as a leader in the world.
	So I think there's a lot of great things that can come out of uh Obama and that is hopefully an administration that will reverse all the damage that he's responsible for.
	800 941 Sean is a toe free telephone number you want to be a part of the program.
	Uh Tracy is in Texas.
	Tracy, hi, how are you?
	Welcome to Cleveland and the RNC convention.
	Hey Sean hey listen uh you know I'm definitely a fan of yours I remember what you did for the guy who was in Trump Job but I totally totally disagree.
	I disagree wholeheartedly with a lot of the things you've been saying.
	First off I think because you're in such a very powerful position you have to stop that redefining thing.
	I I'm aware who have the power to define has the power but I've I heard you talk about the president Black Lives Matter do you think do you think it's appropriate for the president to meet with Black Lives Matter?
	Do you think it's appropriate for the president to say Republicans are social Darwinists that their plan is for dirty air and dirty water.
	You think it's appropriate for the president to hang out at the church of GD America and then lecture us hang out with unrepentant terrorists really I don't need lectures from a guy with his background no thanks actions speak a lot louder than words.
	Let me say something Sean you're grabbing these little facts and first of all black life little facts you think hanging out little hanging out with people that chant what do we want dead cops when do we want them now that's just a little fact to you and part of Black Lives Matter but here's what I want to say Sean No no no you you say these things but you just you just wait you want to brush it aside.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Would you hang out with people that were part of a group that bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, New York City police headquarters would you go to the church of GD America?
	Would you invite to the White House if you're the president of the United States people the chanting what do we want dead cops when do we want them now would you do that?
	Would you do any of those things Sean answer it.
	No let you answer the question or I'm gonna hang up the phone.
	Yes or no?
	Ask the question I wanted to ask no before you take me up down the street.
	I will I will let you talk after you answer my question.
	Answer it.
	Oh no you're right Sean no I if that based on how you frame that no Sean so can I can I now bring up the point I want to take look at this shift.
	Sean a lot of things have been redefined.
	You said something about Trayvon Martin here was a 17 year old kid going to a skitter that was pursued by a person.
	We as black people watch this man die and the system let the man go.
	Tamir Rice, 12 year old kid shot Laporte, Sandra Bland we watched it all you for some reason you don't think that these two guys who were wrong the Dallas shooting, let me say that first off the Dallas shooting and the bad rooms were wrong.
	Sandra Blank committed suicide number one by the way wait a minute you know what you don't know what happened here.
	You know this you're like the president now you're just rushing a judgment.
	There was an eyewitness in the Trayvon Martin case that identified Trayvon on top of George Zimmerman.
	The scream was George Zimmerman screaming for his life and he described a ground in pound of Zimmerman's head into cement concrete and that that's when the gunshot went off.
	So number one, he was found not guilty.
	Number two, Michael Brown was fought on tape robbing a store, intimidating a clerk black eye witnesses said he charged at an officer after he tried to get the officer's gun.
	So you're wrong there too.
	And the Cambridge police didn't act stupidly and by the way Freddie Gray the four officers so far that have been tried four not guilty verdicts and the president rushes to judgment no due process no presumption of innocence.
	I'm sick of it.
	from this guy and I don't need lectures from you either.

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