Sean Hannity Show - Social Media Dangers - 7.19

July 19, 2016 - Sean Hannity Show

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Social Media Dangers - 7.19

Social media continues to feed criminal activity and, more and more, we are seeing technology used to plan attacks. There is a balance between privacy and protection and Sean engages with experts on just where to draw that line. The Sean Hannity Show is live Monday through Friday from 3pm - 6pm ET on iHeart Radio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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	And the whole start of the Republican National Convention.
	Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
	We are in Cleveland, all part of the best election coverage available on your radio dial.
	Her name is Marlana Van Hues.
	No stranger, by the way, to National Anthems, as you could tell.
	She did not disappoint.
	What an amazing, amazing performance.
	And uh on one of the biggest stages, she also did the uh MBA final game six in Cleveland.
	I mean, which was pretty amazing.
	And uh, you know, she had contracted a uh a disease at birth that led to lifelong blindness in her particular case.
	That's how the Republican National Convention began.
	It was an amazing night last night.
	I gotta tell you, it really is um not the problems that I was concerned about.
	There are protesters here.
	There are groups here.
	The funniest thing is watching if you've got one guy with a sign, there's probably 50 guys with a microphone or a handheld camera that think that they're that they're Dick Tracy, great investigative reporters, and they're following the one guy, and I mean one person can get literally a hundred reporters following them.
	It's a little ridiculous.
	I watch out my hotel window and I'm laughing my my you know what off.
	Uh so but not what you think.
	I I've got to give credit to the police, the secret service, the FBI, I gotta give credit to the Department of Homeland Security.
	The way this whole thing is designed, they literally, for the for you to get into this arena, they have created a perimeter about a mile all the way around.
	You cannot get in.
	It's impenetrable from my perspective.
	I don't see how anyone could break through.
	I guess there's weakness in any any system of defense that you put up.
	And they they've set it up in such a way that if, for example, you're going to the arena, you gotta go through your metal detectors, you gotta get your bag searched, you gotta get padded down, you get you're with sweet baby James, you get extra wanded.
	James has a wand me tag on the back of his uh shirt that says wand me.
	You go to a airport with him, wand me, and wand everybody with me.
	He likes to get wanded.
	He gets picked out of every lineup.
	No doesn't matter.
	What is it about you and getting wanded?
	And so, you know, and I carry a lot of stuff in my pockets.
	I'm like pulling out this and that and that and this and that and this.
	Uh so I had this this rosary that I carry with me in this special case, and the guy goes, There's something in there, something in there, there's something in there.
	And I'm like, what?
	I don't have anything in my pocket.
	And then I, oh yeah.
	And I pulled it out.
	I said, it's only a rosary.
	No worries.
	No big deal.
	Anyway, so um, it's it's pretty safe, secure, not the danger, but with that said, I've spent a lot of time talking to police and Secret Service, Department of Homeland Security guys.
	Uh we actually we finished at one o'clock in the morning last night.
	And it's kind of fun because the speeches are on my hour 10 to 11.
	And I, you know, I don't really want to go, oh, let's go to this person.
	Oh, let's go to that person.
	I'd rather talk about what happened that night.
	I know that there's controversy over Melania.
	We're going to get to that in a second.
	There is no controversy.
	It's you know what it is?
	You've got all these media people.
	You got the mainstream liberal leftist media.
	The night went perfectly.
	You had Rudy Giuliani just nailed it last night, just pounded hard on the issue of national security.
	The theme last night was keeping America safe.
	And so he's pounding away.
	Sheriff Clark was amazing.
	Blue Lives Matter.
	That was a big moment during the campaign.
	Uh I'm sorry, during the convention last night.
	And, you know, you had a lot of famous people, stars, and Scott Bayo was here and and a bunch of other people, but I I think the big people of the night, you had um uh we had Donald Trump Jr. on TV last night.
	We just had a good night.
	A lot of good things happened.
	So if you look at, you know what's happening here, you can't have a better convention, so the left-wing media, they've got to find something.
	And Melania Trump, extraordinarily, she's smart, she's beautiful, she is a huge success and her own merit.
	She is she gives a speech, she speaks five languages, extraordinarily intelligent.
	I met her, I spent time with her, and very kind, soft-hearted person.
	And by the way, that's the contrast.
	People think Donald Trump, well, he's harsh, he's fights, he's a fighter.
	I've seen him with his family.
	He's a pussycat.
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
	He's like, you know, you know, the nicest guy.
	He likes melts around his family.
	So anyway, so Melania Trump gives a speech, and anyway, there were like two lines of the speech that apparently were similar to, some say lifted from, plagiarized from Michelle Obama's 2008 speech.
	Um look, I I don't know, you know, the most people that speak at these conventions have other people at least look at the speeches.
	Maybe they write their own speech, maybe other people are looking for lines or or themes or whatever to put into it, add to it, edit to it.
	That's that's one of the reasons I hate being a writer, is just you know, you have to constantly make sure that oh that I have the thoughts of what I just read from somebody else in my head when I just tried to explain something here, or somebody makes a good point.
	So it's something you always got to be be careful of.
	But the the great irony of all of this is you know what?
	Look at your vice president.
	Your vice president Joe Biden.
	Joe Biden plagiarized an entire speech of the leader of the labor movement at the time in 1988 when he was running for president, a guy by the name of Neil Kinneck.
	And do we have parts of that, Linda?
	I don't even know which parts we have.
	And let's play them together just just to give you some perspective because you're talking about two lines here, and I want to point out one other thing.
	I didn't hear Mil Melania say, like Michelle Obama has said multiple times, for the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country.
	For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.
	Let me tell you something.
	For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country.
	Okay, Melania Trump didn't say that.
	She's a person that came to This country chose to live here, went through the process legally, became a citizen, and has been a huge success in her life, independent of anybody else.
	And she's smart enough to be able to write her own lines.
	It's such a non-story to me.
	But if we want to talk about plagiarizing speeches, all right.
	Let's look at our vice president.
	You know, the same guy that said you can't go to a 7-Eleven or Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.
	And Barack, oh, he's man, it's storybook, man.
	He's clean and he's articulate.
	Wow, that storybook.
	What he takes a shower.
	Amazing.
	Anyway, here's him versus Kinnock.
	I started thinking as I was coming over here.
	Why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go to a university?
	Why is it that my wife who's sitting out there in the audience is the first in her family to ever go to college?
	Oh, why am I the first kinetic in a thousand generations to be able to get to university?
	Baith Glenn is the first woman in her family in a thousand generations.
	Because they were weak.
	Those people who put eight hours underground and then come up and pay football.
	Weak.
	My ancestors who worked in the coal mines in Northeast Pennsylvania and don't come up after 12 hours and play football for four hours.
	I mean, he lifted the whole thing.
	And he's your vice president.
	And I don't remember the media when Obama announced Joe Biden as his vice president making such a big deal.
	It's it's such a non-story to me.
	Then you've got Obama himself.
	And Obama got caught literally lifting, stealing lines from Daval Patrick.
	Listen to this.
	But her dismissive point, and I hear it a lot from her staff, is that uh all I have to offer is words.
	Just words.
	Oh we hold these truths to be self-evident.
	All men are fan and just words.
	We have nothing to fear but fear itself.
	Ask not what your country can do for you.
	Ask what you can do.
	I have a dream.
	Don't tell me words don't matter.
	Yeah.
	I have a dream.
	Just words.
	We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, just words.
	We have nothing to fear but fear itself, just words, just speeches.
	I am not asking anybody to take a chance on me.
	I'm asking you to take a chance on your own aspirations.
	I'm not just asking you to take a chance on me.
	I'm also asking you to take a chance on your own aspirations.
	Wow.
	Can you lift any more than that for crying out loud?
	And yet the media is just having a field day, trying to say that somehow Melania or Trump plagiarized something.
	So he plagiarized Governor Daval Patrick in multiple campaign speeches.
	Michelle Obama, frankly, plagiarized Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals during the 2008 speech.
	That came up at the time.
	There were instances where Hillary Clinton lifted Senator John Edwards on multiple occasions during the 2008 pro campaign.
	And Biden with Neil Kinnock during his 1988 presidential race.
	Oh, so let's make this an issue.
	First of all, let's be blunt here.
	There's certain cliches and platitudes that, yeah, even both parties are gonna use, and those are the types of lines that we're really talking about here.
	But the left will ignore that.
	The media will ignore all of that, and they'll turn this into something that it obviously is not.
	Then you've got, remember when uh Obama said, You didn't build that, you didn't build that.
	Well, actually.
	If you've been successful, you don't you didn't get there on your own.
	You didn't get there on your own.
	I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart.
	There are a lot of smart people out there.
	It must be because I worked harder than everybody else.
	Let me tell you something.
	There are a whole bunch of hard working people out there.
	If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.
	There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.
	Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we had that allowed you to thrive.
	Somebody invested in roads and bridges.
	If you got a business, that you didn't build that.
	Somebody else made that happen.
	The internet didn't get invented on its own.
	Government research created the internet.
	So then all the companies couldn't make money off the internet.
	I hear all this, you know, well, this is class warfare.
	This is whatever.
	No.
	There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own.
	Nobody.
	You built a factory out there.
	Good for you.
	But I want to be clear.
	You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for.
	You hired workers, the rest of us paid to educate.
	You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for.
	You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory and hire someone to protect against this because of the work the rest of us did.
	Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea.
	God bless.
	Keep a big hunk of it.
	But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.
	You didn't build that.
	Now, by the way, Gateway Pundit reported today, Biden's most famous case of plagiar plagiarism was back in the 1960s in law school, where it was concluded, by the way, that Biden quoted used five pages from a published law review article without quotation or attribution.
	And that he ought to be failed in the legal methods course for which he had submitted a 15-page paper, five of the pages he stole.
	And of course, we know what he did with Neil Kinnock.
	It's unbelievable.
	Obama stealing Elizabeth Warren's, you didn't build that speech.
	You know, it was this was not plagiarism by Melania last night.
	And at least her speech didn't have, well, for the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of my country.
	Look, the media is so unhappy that this convention is going well.
	And let me tell you, they don't want it to go well.
	They want the chaos.
	Chris Matthews, do you believe he said that Pat Smith ruined the evening by talking about her son Sean killed in Benghazi and said it was gross to say Hillary had anything to do with Ambassador Stevens?
	You've got to be kidding me.
	Alright, I gotta take a break.
	We're at the uh uh Republican National Convention.
	We're in Cleveland.
	Our number remains the same: 800-941 Sean.
	You want to be a part of the program, Newt Gingrich.
	We have our cyber experts, all of these terror attacks and all these police officers being killed.
	Why do they telegraph it beforehand and we don't pick it up?
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	We have some Hillary news out there.
	Trump surging past Hillary in the latest MBC poll.
	That's the third head-to-head matchup where we have had.
	You know, how is it that the mother of a Benghazi victim?
	Remember, 600 separate requests for security ahead of the Benghazi attack.
	Hillary Clinton in a big meeting three hours into the 13-hour attack, and she's wondering as the highest-ranking cabinet official in the meeting.
	Well, do we need Libya's permission to save Americans?
	Well, she's the ones that created this mess.
	Now remember, the Brits pulled out, Red Cross pulled out, Hillary Clinton, Americans are under attack.
	We're watching this live unfold.
	There was live view of the attack.
	We knew it was an attack.
	We knew it was a terror attack, and we know she knew it was a terror attack.
	And they're actually debating three hours into this.
	Well, do we need the permission from the Libyan president?
	To save Americans?
	No, we don't need anybody's permission.
	You go save Americans.
	And then they're arguing, well, if our Marines go in or anybody in the armed services go in, should we put them in uniform or what are they gonna wear?
	A suit as they go out into battle and conflict and war?
	I mean, and they literally had you know brave men and women in our military change four separate times out of their clothes because they were afraid to offend people.
	And then of course the line the cover up after.
	And then Chris Matthews, so uh we know that Hillary lied.
	We know that she told her own daughter.
	We know that she told the Libyan president, Egyptian prime minister, that hey, this is uh a terrorist attack, and it's probably Al Qaeda related in the Arabian Peninsula.
	And we know that uh I think it was Ansar Al Sharia, I forget what it is, which what name of the group specifically.
	Anyway, so this woman was lied to even at the funerals, Panetta and Obama and Hillary, they all lied to the families of the four that were killed unnecessarily had we sent the security that they requested.
	Anyway, so they failed before, they failed during, and then they lied in cover up after.
	And one of the people that they lied to, Pat Smith, I spent a lot of time with her last night.
	She's a Did you see what she did to me on TV?
	She grabbed my face.
	I felt like a little kid again, and like was was pulling my cheeks, it was hilarious.
	She's a lovely lady, but she's in pain.
	She's never going to recover at the loss of her son.
	You know, Sean Smith.
	And what is this idiot?
	Mr. Thrill up his leg, orgasm up his leg, Obamagas him up his leg, Chris Matthews say.
	Oh, the GOP ruined their evening, allowing the mother of a Benghazi victim to speak.
	Well, I'm sorry, Chris, but she lost her son and she was lied to by Hillary.
	And maybe you want to check out Trey Gowdy asking James Comey whether the next person that's going to give you a thrill up your leg.
	Uh, in fact, you know, lied to the families.
	And how would you feel if it was your son or daughter?
	Good grief.
	It's gross, he says, to say that Hillary had anything to do with Ambassador Stevens' death.
	I don't care what the victim's mother felt.
	What is wrong with these people?
	It's unbelievable.
	Uh anyway, back to last night in the convention just a little bit here.
	Um the Hill newspaper published an article a few days ago pointing out that violence at home and abroad is rolling the presidential race, quote, traumatic events have come thick and come fast, they reported.
	And I can just tell you this.
	I know the media would want to spend the rest of the day focused on Melania Trump, but it's a non-story.
	No matter how hard they try to push it, it's just not going to work.
	But last month we had the worst mass shooting in American history, 49 people gunned down at a at a nightclub in Orlando, gay and lesbian club, apparently.
	Now, then we had the shooting of the five officers in Dallas less than two weeks ago, followed by the shooting of three officers killed in Baton Rouge, three others injured overseas.
	We've had terrorist carnage, what, in Brussels, Brussels, uh in Ankara in March, and in Paris last November and Nice and France last Thursday.
	You've seen the rise of ISIS, the collapse of Iraq and Syria and Libya.
	You had the near coup or so-called coup of Turkey.
	You see, a more aggressive Russia than ever before, more aggressive China than ever before.
	We learned that the Iranian deal had secret agreements That allow them to build a weapon in half the time that we thought we were told that they were going to be able to build a weapon.
	I mean, all of this is now coming together.
	I mean, last night, keeping America safe was the message of or the theme of last night's event, and it's a little bit different tonight, and every night has a different theme.
	Tonight it's you know making America work again.
	Yeah, we need jobs.
	95 million Americans out of the labor force, I tell you every day.
	But what's happening here, all of these events combined are creating the right impression.
	It's not wrong that things are spiraling out of control.
	I can't tell you that the thing that worries me the most about my life.
	I'm 54 years old.
	I've had every dream I've wanted to come true.
	I don't give a rip anymore about much.
	I just don't care.
	But I care about my country, I care about my kids, I care about my family, and I care about your kids, and I care about their country, and I care about the kind of country we're going to leave them.
	And we're leaving them a colossal mess right now.
	And things are spiraling out of control.
	We now have a war on police officers.
	Blue lives apparently don't matter to many.
	And then to speak out against black lives matters that says, what do we want dead cops?
	When do we want them now?
	Well, then you're called a racist.
	Now, clearly, this is a big issue in the campaign.
	And the Trump campaign clearly understands this, which is why, as even the New York Times pointed out, it's very interesting if you look at a front page story today that the Trump campaign is evoking the tone and the themes of Richard Nixon's successful 1968 campaign, particularly Nixon on law and order.
	Now, the Times reports that Paul Manafort, he's Donald Trump's campaign manager, said yesterday that Trump was using that as a template for his own primetime speech that Nixon gave at a convention 48 years ago.
	That convention was in Miami.
	If you go back and read the speech, and I went back today and looked at it, it's pretty much in line with a lot of the issues that are going on today, and it's true.
	And Trump himself recently said, I think that Nixon understood, and what he understood is that the world is falling apart, that people need a strong leader, that their highest priority is gotta be to protect America.
	You know, the 60s were bad, really bad, and it's really bad now, and Americans feel like a sense of chaos is set in.
	You know, any young person that I talk to, I try to encourage them.
	I I've I've sort of I kind of have what I call the Hannity Lectures or the Hannity Lecture Series.
	And if it's somebody I know and care about, I say, all right, money equals freedom.
	I say, okay, you've got to push yourself and protect yourself and develop the maximum amount of skills so that when all hell breaks loose and shh hits the fan, which it will, you have the ability and the skill set to navigate through those turbulent times and troubled waters.
	And I I try to urge these kids, I've had a lot of really bright, smart, wonderful people over the years that have worked for me to dig deep, you know, get out of their comfort zone and push themselves beyond which they think they're capable of going, knowing they're capable of it.
	And it's not easy.
	And you watch these kids and they kind of shake a little bit, but they, you know, oftentimes do it.
	And because if you don't do it, and you're relying on an economy that is unstable, and you don't have extra skills or extra abilities, that makes you less marketable, less independent, more dependent on government, more dependent on conditions that are way outside of your control.
	You want to be independent.
	Anyway, so these themes are coming up, and I think the situation is just as bad.
	And, you know, I think they're the New York Times put it that Trump is branding himself as the law and order candidate, and in recent weeks telling voters to stand with the police, much as Nixon encouraged the non-shouters, the non-demonstrators to stand with him.
	Now we'll see the comparison next week in Philly.
	And my guess is you're gonna see and hear radicalism on display.
	Now, you know, look, we're not looking back in the mirror here.
	It's 2016.
	Nothing is exactly the same.
	I mean, America involved in Vietnam, Robert Kennedy was killed, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated, riots in American cities.
	But we've got our own problems here, and it has the same feel that things are going to get worse.
	And I think there's, you know, rising crime in American cities.
	You look, you know, look at the the black community, for example.
	I gave out these statistics.
	Black Americans seem to vote for Democrats, but you got 58%, a 58% increase in black Americans on food stamps since Obama's been president.
	What has he done for the black community?
	You have a 20% increase in the black community in terms of them being out of the working population, out of the labor force.
	What has Obama's policies done for them?
	What has he done for us by destabilizing Iraq and Syria and creating an opening for ISIS to fill a void and providing the financial means and the finances to expand their terrorism?
	The JV team, of course.
	Or giving Iran the ability to spend their centrifuges with 150 billion new dollars.
	All of this is insanity.
	And then you've got the sense that we're on the verge of an economic collapse.
	I can't tell you how many smart economists I talk to.
	They're just waiting for the next bubble to burst.
	Not if it's gonna burst when it's gonna burst.
	Now, I think, you know, when you look at Trump's agenda, all right, he's gonna make us energy independent.
	That's good for national security.
	That's good for job creation.
	He's gonna build a wall, that's good for national security, that's good for Americans that are out of the labor force.
	He's gonna lower taxes and incentivize businesses to spend money and build factories and manufacturing centers.
	That's good for put putting people back to work.
	He's gonna allow companies to repatriate their money that they park overseas because if they bring the money back to America, they're gonna lose huge portions of it to taxes.
	He's gonna say, bring the money back invested here, and we'll we'll tax you at a very low rate.
	So, you know, the settle the unsettling feeling exist, and the differences, you know, couldn't be more dramatic than what we see happening here.
	All right, what else do we have going on?
	Uh Mitch McConnell got booed today.
	That was pretty hilarious.
	I thought I got a kick out of that.
	Um the never Trumpers have gone nowhere.
	I don't even know why people are still talking about them.
	Paul Ryan.
	Trump is not my kind of conservative, but I support him anyway.
	Oh, gee, thanks, Paul.
	Uh, you seem to have more criticism of Trump than you do Obama and Hillary.
	By the way, none of these were I want to tell you something.
	This is important.
	Hiller uh Linda, will anybody in Paul Ryan's office return your call anymore?
	No.
	Anybody in Kevin McCarthy's office return your call anymore?
	No.
	No.
	Any leadership in the Republican House or Senate that will return our calls anymore?
	I think they're all washing their hair.
	Yeah, they're all busy, right?
	Very.
	As a matter of fact, very few.
	How many congressmen do you think would readily come on this program?
	Only those that tell the truth, so it's a very small amount.
	Yeah, the freedom caucus guys, basically, right?
	Pretty much, yeah.
	Jim Jordan, Louis Gomert.
	Yeah, he's not in part of that group, but you know, Mark Meadows, guys that we like, right?
	Hughes Camp.
	Yeah, Hughes Camp.
	By the way, he's in a tough race.
	I hope really want to help him if we can.
	So, you know, it's um and I'm gonna tell you, you know, John Kasich has really disappointed me.
	I've been friends with him a long time.
	John Kasich gave his word.
	Now John Kasich doesn't show up.
	Why do I believe if the Democrats had their convention in Cleveland this year that John Kasich would have welcomed them to their state?
	Why do I believe that in my heart?
	And now he wants, you know, him, Ted Cruz is speaking, but he's never endorsed Trump.
	Why didn't Ted keep his word?
	I don't care that you, you know, I it was a tough fight.
	Too bad.
	That's what politics is.
	That's the way the game is played.
	All right, let's get to our phones.
	800 941 Sean, uh, Dave Louisville, Kentucky on the Sean Hannity Show.
	What's up, Dave?
	How are you?
	Welcome to uh Cleveland.
	How are you?
	I'm good, sir.
	What's going on?
	Well, I'm just uh you know, I have to go back to this non-story of Melania Trump and her uh supposed uh speech Lifting fiasco.
	Well, you know, the Liberal media is just trying to smear the Trump campaign with this speech lifting story.
	It's it's crazy.
	And uh you've done a great job and proven that these socialist hacks are guilty of the same thing.
	But unlike these hacks in the White House now, Melania can at least lift a speech in six languages.
	I was dealing with like a couple of lines that were similar.
	Joe Biden lifts an entire speech.
	Uh Barack Obama lifts two speeches from Duvall, one speech from Elizabeth Warren, and that they wouldn't that was never a big deal.
	In the case of Biden in eighty-eight, it was a big deal, but it's not now.
	Well, you know what?
	It's called research and doing my job.
	That's what my job.
	My job is to point out their phony hypocrisy and selective moral outrage, because they're all full of it.
	I'm sick of the whole bunch of them.
	I I look, you know what I hope I hope Donald Trump gets elected, and he's like a like a political earthquake that just literally politically speaking just just tears the foundations of the establishment right down to its core.
	Raw nerve exposed for the entire country to see how how evil and corrupt things have gotten there, and how incestuous it is between lobbyists and politicians and staff members, and it's just one big game.
	It's it's really despicable.
	All right, eight hundred nine four one Sean.
	When we get back, New Kingrich joins us.
	We have our cyber experts.
	Why don't we get these guys earlier when they're telegraphing they want to commit acts of terror or assassinate police?
	Also, Kevin Jackson will debate the minister Paul Scott from the Messianic Afrikan Nation Ministry.
	We also reach out, we reach out our arms with understanding and compassion to those who have lost loved ones because of police shootings.
	Some justified, some unjustified.
	Those that are unjustified must be punished.
	Those that are justified, we must apologize to.
	It's time to make America safe again.
	It's time to make America one.
	Again, one America.
	What happened?
	What happened to?
	What happened to?
	There's no black America!
	There's no white America!
	There is just America.
	What happened to it?
	Where did it go?
	How is it flown away?
	I know.
	I know we can change it because I did it by changing New York City from the crime capital of America to the safest large city in the United States.
	What I did for New York, Donald Trump will do for America.
	All right, second hour, Sean Hannity Show as we come to you from Cleveland, Ohio, the site of the Republican National Convention, 800-941-SEAN, our toll-free telephone number.
	You want to be a part of the program, a really strong, powerful speech, and one that was full of substance about how liberalism has failed on so many levels.
	And yet Rudy Giuliani did bring the murder rate down around 2500 to about 500.
	It was lowered to about 300 and something under Mayor Bloomberg because of the policies that Rudy put in place.
	Uh you can change the country.
	The country is now more divided along racial lines than ever before.
	And uh joining us now with his perspective of the first day of the convention is former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich.
	How are you, sir?
	I'm doing well, and I thought uh that Rudy Giuliani's speech was uh extraordinary and uh the audience reacted very strongly to it, and of course he has he has the great historical record of having turned around New York City at a time when people thought it was impossible.
	So he could bear witness that it is possible to control crime, it is possible to have safer citizens than we have in Chicago or Baltimore.
	And that is sad that uh liberals just refused to adopt the kind of common sense policies that we absolutely have proof works.
	Well, I think conservative principles worked, you prove that.
	I mean, with all due respect, I mean, we haven't bounced the budget since you were the speaker of the house, and Republicans are are equally uh To blame as far as I'm concerned.
	You know, why do you think this is?
	Because Mitch McConnell actually took to the stage at the convention earlier today and he got booed.
	It didn't surprise me.
	Anybody that's been reading the exit polls knows that 65% of Republican respondents in a year that they've had the largest turnout in a Republican presidential primary, and Donald Trump got more votes than any candidate in a presidential primary in the Republican Party and their history.
	But 65% of those exit polls say that people feel betrayed, let down, abandoned by Republicans in DC.
	I think they've earned that that that number.
	Well, I look I I think that people are very frustrated with so many different aspects of life, with a veterans administration bureaucracy that doesn't work, with borders that aren't controlled, with an economy which has driven twenty-five million Americans out of the middle class, uh, with with terrorists who seem to be able to uh enter the country with impunity.
	I mean, I think there are a lot of different reasons people want action, and of course, no other Republicans in Congress have ended up having to fight over and over and over with Barack Obama.
	And I think they have not found a formula that works for them.
	And then their best hope, frankly, is to get a Trump presidency and then work with the President Trump to get done all the things that Barack Obama would never let them do.
	Yeah.
	Good point.
	So what do you make of this whole Melania dust up that uh she there maybe there were two lines in the speech that was similar to what Michelle Obama had said in her speech.
	Well, the first my first reaction was well, at least she didn't discover for the first time in her life that she was finally proud to be an American, something Michelle Obama, I'll remind you, play said twice as I played this.
	Because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback.
	Let me tell you something for the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country.
	Yeah, you know, sh I didn't hear Melania say that.
	I saw a woman that speaks five languages that worked extraordinarily hard in her life, has been able to come successful, appreciates her opportunity at the American Dream, and uh seems very proud of America.
	Well, look, you have to understand what was happening.
	The left wing media was so frightened by the stunning success of Melania's speech.
	I mean, it was an absolute home run.
	Uh I had somebody in the elite media turn to me during the speech because he had just gotten a text message from his brother-in-law, who said, That's it, I'm in for Trump.
	Uh so I think I think that the elite media said here's the making of a real superstar.
	And she's a superstar on the conservative side.
	Uh she she is a first generation immigrant, so she really softens that whole issue.
	She's stunningly attractive.
	She's clearly very intelligent and articulate and poised.
	And they had they had to do something because she had a basis loaded home on, and they're desperately trying to get it reduced to a double.
	Uh and and that's this is all baloney.
	You have a vice president of the United States and Joe Biden, who had to drop out of the nineteen eighty-eight race because he stole entire speeches from Neil Kinnock, the labor leader in Great Britain.
	You had a a major speech given by Barack Obama in which he clearly took whole sections from the gov devol uh Patrick the governor of Massachusetts.
	Those were okay because they were liberals.
	I think one of th you know do you know the whole line you didn't build that came from Elizabeth Warren.
	What?
	You remember when Obama said you didn't you didn't build that?
	That's Elizabeth Warren's line.
	Right.
	That's not his line.
	When when when you come down to it, the desperation of the elite media to find something negative to say was was almost pathetic.
	I I mean I cut off a couple reporters today and I said, you know, you you start publishing Joe Biden's plagiarism and Barack Obama's plagiarism and come back talk to me.
	But this I said, this is just garbage.
	This is you guys being terrified of Melania because she is so good, so attractive, so effective, uh, that you gotta desperately say something.
	And I think that's we ought to deal with it that way and just and just move on.
	She is a very smart woman.
	She's a very, very deeply committed mother.
	She has she loves America, and she was very effective last night.
	I agree with you.
	And I know that Ivanka will have the opportunity to introduce her father on Thursday night.
	It was interesting.
	Donald Trump came on the stage, probably by far the shortest speech he ever gave in his life, introduced her, walk back.
	It was a it was a pretty exciting moment being in the hall.
	You could see everybody was had rapt attention.
	And well, and the way he came out, if you remember, because last night when I was on your your show with you, you you repeated the opening.
	You're sort of coming out of the smoke almost like a rock star and just walking out, and people just began to notice you uh and he loved it.
	I mean, he loved that whole moment.
	Uh, and he was, you're right, remarkably disciplined, uh, the shortest speech in his history.
	Uh, and and uh and and very cool.
	I mean, you know, the next first lady of the United States.
	What a cool thing to be able to say.
	You know, last night was special in a lot of ways.
	I thought they did a really good job in the types of speakers that they had, and I had a number of them come up.
	For example, the heroes of Benghazi were on the show after you were on the show.
	Uh, we had Pat Smith on the program.
	She lost her son Sean in Benghazi, and she said that the day before her son died, that her son had relayed to her that they're not giving us the help and the security that we keep requesting again and again.
	And if you were watching another channel, Chris Matthews, who apparently doesn't have a thrill up his leg this year, says the GOP ruined their evening by allowing the mother of of a Benghazi victim to speak.
	And then he said it was gross to say that Hillary had anything to do with Ambassador Stevens' death.
	I don't care what victi what the victim's mother felt, and I'm thinking there's a there's a certain callousness and coldness here that they can't find anything wrong with this convention, so now they've got to stretch and and make things up.
	I mean, that's how desperate I guess they are.
	Well, I look they can't allow this narrative to sink in that there were over six hundred requests for additional help, n all of them neglected or ignored, that Hillary Clinton lied to the mother uh about why her son died.
	They just can't allow this narrative to sink in.
	So a lot like they're attacking Welania, they are coming right after um, you know, everybody on our side.
	And you watch, next week they will have some mothers involved in shootings by policemen in Philadelphia, and that will be really moral and really, really uplifting.
	Uh that will be something that the left will just love.
	It's interesting you say that because Trayvon Martin's mother, and I feel sorry that she lost her son.
	I think it's a terrible tragedy what happened, but there was an eyewitness at the end of this case, as controversial as it might be in some people's mind.
	But when the eyewitness came out, uh when he heard George Zimmerman screaming and we heard the scream that was caught on tape, and he identified Trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman, grounding and pounding his head into concrete, and he was screaming for his life.
	That part of the story, I assume, is not going to be told, but it's the narrative which was false.
	Hands up, don't shoot.
	It's the Black Lives Matter movement.
	They picked up on this.
	You know, what do we want dead cops?
	When do we want them now?
	They are advising Hillary on criminal justice matters, and they're getting invitations to the White House between the the assassination of Dallas police officers and Baton Rouge police officers.
	And by the way, when the Congress comes back in, somebody should introduce a bill, and they should hold hearings in a bill that advocating the killing of policemen ought to be a felony.
	Uh there's no free speech involved in advocating killing somebody.
	And I think that uh this is an area where you don't talk about a hate crime.
	I think hating police is about as destructive a thing as you can do, be like hating the military.
	Uh, which the left, of course, did in the Vietnam era when when military coming back from Vietnam found that if they wore their uniforms, people despise them and spit on them.
	Uh, it's really pathetic when you take the people who are saving your civilization, the people who are providing you with safety, and you turn around and you say, you know, I really hate you.
	Well, you know, you you you you try some big city with no police for three weeks and see what it's like and see how many innocent people get hurt because there's nobody left to protect them.
	So we had Rudy, we had Pat Smith who lost her son, we had the heroes of Benghazi, we had Sheriff Clark, we had Joni Earns.
	Apparently, everybody felt that Sheriff Clark was amazingly strong.
	He I've gotten to know him and have become friends with him.
	As a matter of fact, we all spent time in the green room together on Sunday night, as we we did the show on Sunday night.
	And I tell you, he's a very impressive figure, isn't he?
	He really is.
	Uh, I really like being with him.
	I he he's he's he's very down to earth.
	Uh I saw him earlier today and he wandered around wearing a big cowboy hat, which is not exactly a Milwaukee thing.
	Uh, but he just he's a fun guy, and his wife is fun.
	Uh, they were just great to be with, and and I look forward to seeing him the rest of this trip.
	Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
	Last night I asked you why you believe so strongly that Trump is going to win.
	I mean, you look at the polls, they're certainly encouraging.
	He's up in now one or one about three national polls he's winning, uh, head to head.
	National polls do not mean as much as the state polls.
	And yet we have recent polls that have them up in Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Connecticut tied.
	Other polls have him tied in Virginia, down in North Carolina.
	It's a little bit of a mixed result, but but certainly it's encouraging, but you feel he's going to win this.
	I always argue that the electoral map is so much harder for a Republican than it is a Democrat.
	Well, no, and the electoral map oddly follows the voters.
	Uh if if Trump can put it together right, the weight of history is going to collapse right onto Hillary Clinton's shoulders.
	She is the most corrupt person ever to run for president.
	She is the most dishonest person ever to run for president.
	She is a disaster in national security at a time.
	When as we were reminded again yesterday, uh as a young Afghan refugee ran up and down the train in Germany yelling Allahu Akbar and hitting people with an axe.
	I mean, the world's dangerous.
	Do you really want somebody like Hillary Clinton trying to protect you?
	Do you feel safer with Hillary Clinton trying to protect you?
	And she represents a party which has helped kill twenty-five million middle class jobs, people who've dropped out of middle class, rather people not jobs, about eight million jobs.
	But twenty-five million people, families have dropped out of the middle class in the last decade.
	So I think there's a huge weight on her.
	I think it's gonna get bigger and not smaller.
	We're gonna learn more about how corrupt the the Clinton Foundation is.
	Uh and I think the policies they're gonna adapt next week in Philadelphia are gonna be so far to the left, they're gonna resemble uh the loony left in Great Britain under Margaret Thatcher.
	You're gonna look at these things and think, these guys are just nuts.
	Yeah, I think I agree with you.
	It's gonna be very interesting to be there.
	You know I'm stuck going to that convention too.
	I really that I should get I should get combat pay for having to go to Philly in the Democratic convention.
	No, I think you should do that convention as a comedy show.
	Well, I was still gonna rely on you hopefully to be a guest and give some analysis.
	No, I already invited you.
	I said I'll get you a hotel room.
	I said I'll take you out to steak dinner.
	There was nothing I could offer.
	I love I love the Philadelphia Zoo.
	I love the Academy of Natural Sciences.
	This is a wonderful city.
	And by the way, I do want to put in a plug here.
	The people of Cleveland have been amazing.
	Amazingly positive, totally I mean, anybody on any doubts.
	This is so far working out as just a beautiful event.
	It really has been Cleveland uh deserve a great deal of credit.
	And we were out uh not so called, but I actually stopped by a Burger King today.
	Uh I I had an extra half hour left.
	I hope you I hope you got a whopper with cheese.
	I love it.
	You know, the funny thing.
	I'm talking all the police.
	No, actually what I got was a chicken sandwich, but uh I also got a vanilla shake because I felt bad about myself.
	Anyway, uh I felt bad.
	I didn't get the vice presidency, but I'll have a big role with Donald Trump, no biggie.
	No, but people were randomly walking up to me and saying, Welcome to Cleveland, and we're so glad you're here.
	And they were chanting Newt Newt Newt.
	I heard it.
	New new.
	What night are you speaking, by the way?
	Speaking of what Cliss and I are both speaking tomorrow night.
	All right, awesome.
	We'll see you then.
	Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
	We'll see you tonight on TV.
	Hannity, one hour later at eleven.
	Coming to you from Cleveland, Ohio, the site of the Republican National Convention.
	We're still following all the other stories.
	Black Lives Matter, the new Black Panther Party expected here, and they say they will take advantage of the open carry laws.
	Now I don't care if we're looking at a terrorist attack or any of these assassinations against officers.
	Every single time it happens, usually within hours, information starts pouring in, whoever the individual happens to be, and we find out, oh, they were telegraphing what they have been planning to do for a long time.
	I'll give you an example.
	We have this ex-marine turn militant radical, black nationalist, nation of Islam member, uh Gavin Eugene Long, who murdered the three cops in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and you know, leaving three more, killed three, leaving three more in critical condition.
	Now, Breitbart pointed out he has a massive digital footprint.
	And this happens every time.
	And that sheds light on how a quote self-described spiritual counselor with ties to black nationalist groups could commit such heinous attacks on unsuspecting cops.
	Now we know that he left behind a lengthy, twisted history of encouraging violence, anti-American sentiments on social media.
	He put posted a picture of of an individual, a point blank reign shooting an NYPD officer in the head, and he produced dozens of videos.
	It featured, you know, on the web.
	He registered in April with convos with Cosmo, in addition to his videos, he flooded Twitter and Instagram with messages.
	He created a YouTube channel under the pseudonym Cosmo, whatever.
	On Twitter, he described himself as a freedom strategist, radio host, mental game coach, uh author, world explorer, former Marine, Ethiopian bloodline.
	Anyway, and then of course, we have you know, we played the tape view the other day.
	I'm gonna play it again here because this was done before in the lead up to him assassinating these officers.
	Here's what he said.
	You gotta be promoting, that's the thing, because like when I was talking to a young brother, this nigga working at uh little fools, I can't remember that like some taco place by the college and sh working for the white people, and I'm telling Don, you gotta get skilled.
	And this nigga telling me he already he went to the um you know, you had a job core.
	He already got the sh Yeah and the carpet is all certified, got everything.
	But again, the problem also promotion.
	We don't know that you carpet it.
	How we know?
	So what we do, if we if if my mom don't know that you carpet, who she gonna f with?
	The cracker, the Arab, the Chinese.
	We gotta be thinking, man.
	We gotta be promoting.
	Every time we chop it up, we go meet a nigga.
	Here, this is my business card, nigga.
	I do carbon, I cut hair, I sell this, I sell that, I paint.
	That's what we gotta be on all day, every day.
	So we can f with our own because these niggas don't give no f about it.
	These Arabs, these fing Indian, don't they don't give no two f about you.
	Only when you've given them their money.
	Only when you give them your money.
	Other than that, f no, it's f you.
	So there you hear it.
	Now here's the question.
	Why do we not have a stronger police intelligence presence on the web on the internet, tracking and finding these people before they act?
	Here to help answer that question is Luke Chung.
	He's the president of FMS Inc., Brian Finch, co-chair of the cybersecurity practice at Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman.
	We know Phil Haney, of course, founding member of the Department of Homeland Security, author of the brand new book, See Something, Say Nothing.
	Uh welcome all of you to the program.
	Luke, let me start with you.
	It's it's like every case.
	I don't care if it's terrorism or now the assassination of cops, we find out after the fact, within minutes, okay, this guy was telegraphing all along, what do he plan to do?
	Well, thank you very much for having me on your show.
	Um the challenge is there's so much data.
	There are lots of people who are out there uh saying crazy things.
	And a very tiny fraction of them actually do it.
	Whether it's this kind of crime or or any other kind of crime, you know.
	Uh everybody always says, Oh, that person seemed normal, you didn't seem angry.
	Uh, you know, that's what the neighbors say.
	Um, but something for uh a group of people, you know, they snap and then they do something.
	Sometimes it's not even planned, which is very different from situations where there's a conspiracy and multiple people are working together uh to commit a heinous crime.
	Now, Philip Paney, one of the things that shocks me as one of the founding members of the Department of Homeland Security, you talk about how you had been building a database of Muslims in America that have radical associations and ties, and then you were told to scrub that after Obama became the president, which is I think one of the dumbest, date most dangerous things that I've ever heard in law enforcement in my entire life.
	There's no point in having a Department of Homeland Security if people do their job and they discover radical people and then they don't follow up and then they eliminate their names.
	But do you understand what I'm saying here about how people keep telegraphing that they're giv sending us messages?
	Clearly we are missing something in terms of homeland security.
	What do you think the problem is?
	Well, it's kind of like there's a cloud of toxic gas around the whole structure of our society right now, and the information that would allow us to move forward and uh develop cases.
	People will not go into that environment because I'm talking about law enforcement, because they know if they do, they're gonna become sick from it, or possibly even lose their professional life.
	We keep going back to the same thing.
	We've been handcuffed by political correctness, we've been blindfolded, and now I'm using the illusion, allusion of a cloud of toxic gas.
	Or it's like radioactivity with a Geiger counter.
	Don't go too close to that, because if you do, you're gonna be the one that gets in trouble.
	And that's the problem that we need to address.
	Understanding the nature of the threat vis-a-vislam or even these other kinds of crimes, and being able to move toward a developing a probable cause case.
	That's what we're not able to do.
	Build a change.
	Shouldn't this be a prominent role of the Department of Homeland Security that you help develop in both instances?
	We're really talking about terrorism.
	I mean, it's a different form, but it's terrorism if you're s if you're targeting cops for assassination And you're lying in wait for them and you're ambushing them.
	It's a form of terrorism to me.
	But we're not doing a good enough job clearly of finding these people before they act.
	Don't you think that's something that the government ought to be building up dramatically in the in the days and weeks and years and months ahead?
	Yes, because people don't operate in a vacuum.
	As the tape that you played, the video, the audio that you played, he obviously was not operating in a vacuum.
	He was telegraphing to a innumerable number of people.
	Eventually what he intended to do.
	But nobody along the way said something or saw saw something or said something.
	Why not?
	Because they know that the consequences are probably going to be harmful to them personally or professionally, as he can.
	It's like a cloud around the whole situation.
	And something needs to blow that cloud away.
	But didn't we see that?
	But Philip, we saw that in San Bernardino.
	You had neighbors saying they saw weird activity going on in the garage at crazy late hours and all these people coming and going, and they didn't want to say anything because they thought they were going to be called racist, correct?
	Not only that, that's also correct.
	We heard that in the first few days.
	But what to me is more ominous is what the Department of Homeland Security said about Toshvin Malik's social media.
	The reason that they didn't look into her social media is because they were concerned about violating her civil rights and civil liberties.
	That's a whole nother dimension deeper than uh domestic citizens.
	This is a person that doesn't even have constitutional rights yet, and yet the government is concerned about violation of civil rights and civil liberties.
	We don't have to violate their liberties to look into their social media and then draw conclusions from that.
	But the whole structure is dysfunctional and broken.
	It can be fake, don't get me wrong.
	But it's not functioning the way it should at this point in time in history.
	I don't think it's functioning at all, and I think probably we got set back over a decade when they scrub the material that you and others worked so hard to build up, and as you said, that prevents you from connecting the dots.
	Brian Finch, um I I I know that this is your area of expertise, and we keep finding these people within hours after an event happens.
	You know, I think the first thing that some people do is go to the Facebook page.
	Next thing they do is go to their Twitter account, then they go to their Instagram account.
	Next thing after that is, oh, we've got a background of somebody that was telling the world that they plan to do A B or C. Well, you know, Sean, uh there's a whole panoply of problems here when it comes to monitoring social media.
	I mean, first you have to recognize it's not going to be the only inner cater, and it it it won't be the silver bullet, if you will, to use a a bad pun in this particular case with respect to to finding bad actors to be a good indicture of of whether someone has violent tendencies or is planning to do something bad.
	It has to be used uh in context with other investigative tools.
	But I I also think it's important to note, as Luke mentioned, there's so much data out there that we have to be careful and targeted and smart about it.
	And this is where the NSA and other intelligence agencies ran into problems, particularly thanks to our good friend and trader Edward Snowden, who uh disclosed the presence of these monitoring systems to look into social media, look into conversations, etcetera.
	And it was all being done perfectly within the law, but the the context of it and the public relations element of it really drew this incredible civil rights and civil liberties backlash as Philip mentioned.
	And we've had to dial back a lot of these investigations, and and that's that and that's a big hurt that is still impacting our law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
	And so they have these capabilities, in fact, are expanding their capabilities, at least to screen uh employees, for instance, that are coming into the federal government.
	And I would note too that they do use these overseas, and there's this interesting paradox here where we're very careful with respect to what we can do in the use of social media and gathering evidence for criminal prosecutions in the United States, but at the same time, the administration is perfectly willing to use that kind of information to conduct drone strikes overseas, even for American citizens.
	If they think that a person is a terrorist based on social media and they believe that the evidence is sufficient according to whatever standard they've defined, that's more than enough to have a hellfire delivered to your hut.
	Uh, and I I I think that's a really interesting duality that nobody's really explored in depth in terms of how the Obama administration is acting.
	You know, not only are we not doing this or picking up this.
	Last night I had the opportunity and I interviewed two of the mothers that spoke uh on the stage here in Cleveland last night, and they lost their sons to illegal immigrants that had committed multiple crimes and just get released back into society and they don't get deported.
	The Washington examiner today, Luke, has a a peace out.
	The deportation under Obama is at a 10-year low.
	So he has no desire to enforce the law.
	Even criminal illegal immigrants don't get sent back.
	It's like we're asking for trouble by not looking and seeking out those people telegraphing their crimes ahead of time.
	You know, it it's almost like the government has blood on their hands because the level of incompetence is so high.
	Well, you know, you you hit a very good point there, and I think ultimately it comes down to the government is trying to do too much, and so it's not going to do any of it well.
	And uh you know it reflects, I think, the fundamentals of this election, regardless of what you think of Clinton, regardless of what you think about Trump and their tempers, etc., the fundamental difference to me is you've got someone in the Republican Party who is about less government and doing it well and doing the things that are fundamental, i.e., national security, or someone who is promoting every social grievance, every issue, health care, uh d discrimination, whatever form, et cetera.
	There'll be a government program to address that and impact that.
	And people can choose whatever side they want.
	But if you uh if you ask me on a personal level, I'm a person who thinks government should do less and its resources should be focused on what we're talking about here is finding the bad actors and taking care of them.
	And and you gotta balance privacy issues and national security issues, but in the case of the people that are committing these crimes and acts of terror, they're posting it publicly.
	It's not like they're trying to hide it when it's not like we're breaking into their computers.
	Right.
	I mean, there's a lot of that out there, and that's the problem is that um if you go into social media and do searches for things like that, you will find such a huge number of people who are expousing crazy ideas.
	And a lot of them are uh, you know, mentally unbalanced.
	They're not really threats.
	I mean, we see that here in built different buildings around DC where people just show up.
	And you know, they they're they're crazy.
	They're not threats.
	So it's a tiny fraction of people who are threats to themselves or threats to other people, and trying to find that among the you know, needle in the haystack is very, very challenging.
	What is effective, though, is once somebody is um determined to be a criminal, then using social media to round up and focus on all of their connections uh in kind of a forensic approach can be very effective.
	But the predictive side, lots of organizations have tried to do that, our existious try to do that.
	You know, it's so hard with all the noise.
	I gotta wrap it up, guys.
	Thanks so much for being with us.
	Our news roundup information overload hours coming up.
	Kevin Jackson of the Black Sphere will join us.
	He'll be debating the Minister Paul Scott, founder of the Messianic Afrikan Nation Ministry.
	Obviously, Black Lives Matter is playing a big part in this convention and uh a big part of what is going on around the country.
	I would hope that police organizations are also respectful of the frustrations that people in these communities feel.
	And not just dismiss these protests and these complaints as political correctness or as politics or attacks on police.
	There are legitimate issues that have been raised.
	And there's data and evidence to back up the concerns that are being expressed by these protesters.
	And if police organizations and departments acknowledge that there's a problem and there's an issue, then that too is going to contribute to real solutions.
	And as I said yesterday, that is what's going to ultimately help make the job of being a cop a lot safer.
	It is in the interests of police officers that their communities trust them.
	And that the kind of rancor and suspicion that exists right now is alleviated.
	In 1963, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. wrote passionately about the interrelatedness of all communities and states, and about our inescapable network of mutuality tying us in a single garment of destiny.
	He spoke of the basic morality of the rule of law, provided that it is applied equally to both the wealthy and the impoverished, both men and women, and yes, the majority and the minority.
	What we witnessed in Ferguson in Baltimore and Baton Rouge was a collapse of the social order.
	So many of the actions of the Occupy movement and Black Lives Matter transcends peaceful protests and violates the code of conduct we rely on.
	I call it anarchy.
	You see, American law enforcement officers understand that race is and has been a heated issue in our country.
	Most appreciate the vital need for thoroughness and transparency and pursuit of the greater good in their actions and in their investigations.
	These are truths that are self-evident to me and which I practice, and they are the truths that Donald Trump understands and supports.
	Donald Trump is the steadfast leader our nation needs.
	He has spoken passionately to me of his belief in our American system of justice.
	And he speaks to the values that are at the foundation of our social contract.
	All right, news roundup and information overload hour here on the Sean Hannity Show.
	We're in Cleveland.
	We're at the RNC convention.
	Don't forget Hannity tonight, 1101, as the speeches wrap up, we jump right on the air, and uh we're having the time of our lives here.
	That last voice you heard, of course, was Sheriff David Clark talking about the collapse of social order and anarchy, and the House came down last night when he actually declared that blue lives matter in America.
	We now have open assassination of police officers, terror attack after terror attack, and anarchy is beginning to rain.
	It does seem reminiscent of the 1960s.
	And joining us now, Kevin Jackson is the executive director of the Black Sphere and the author of the Big Black Lie, and the Minister Paul Scott.
	He's the founder of the Messianic African Nation Ministry.
	Thank you all for being with us.
	Uh Minister Scott, let me ask you a question.
	This was asked during one of the democratic debates.
	Black lives matter, all lives matter.
	What do you say?
	I say black power matters.
	Uh because one of the things with the black lives matter movement, they're just trying to state the obvious to white America.
	Uh, it's very clear that black lives matter.
	Uh but from my end of the spectrum, which is to the You're a pastor.
	Let me ask you, Pastor, do you believe that every human be being is made in the image of God?
	Of course.
	So then why don't you say is every life precious?
	Uh every life is precious, but then why don't you say why don't you state the obvious, sir, that all lives matter.
	For example, black lives matter, white lives matter, Asian lives matter, Hispanic uh lives matter, every life matters.
	Why don't you just say the truth as a minister of the gospel?
	Why don't you remind people that every one of us is a child of God?
	We've all sinned, we've all fallen short of the glory of God.
	All of that you can preach.
	But if you're saying black power matters and not not all lives matter, you're a man of the cloth, you sound very divisive to me.
	Well, the Bible itself is divisive between good and evil, but that's besides the point.
	Okay, but but but the but every human being has a propensity towards good and a propensity towards evil.
	Have you sinned, Pastor?
	Of course.
	Okay.
	So the question here is you're a pastor, you're a minister.
	God created according to you all men in his images, that in his image, meaning all people of all backgrounds, races, and colors, right?
	Right.
	And I can't I can't even sit here.
	I'm sitting here wasting my precious radio time getting you to acknowledge a simple truth.
	And the simple truth is all lives matter.
	Why can't you state the obvious?
	Because I'm black.
	And first of all, I'm going to say black.
	Kevin, last time I checked, Kevin's.
	I know Kevin.
	Kevin's been on my TV show.
	Kevin, last time I checked, you're black.
	I have I happen to be white and Irish, and I get sunburned pretty bad.
	It sucks.
	But here's the point.
	Does my life matter, Kevin?
	Absolutely.
	And see, what the pastor doesn't want to say, what he's veiling is his racism.
	Is the fact is you you can't try to have your cake and eat it too.
	You can't be this person that says, I want people not to judge me by the color of my skin, and then at the same time try to uh segregate yourself to say the color of my skin gives me priority.
	That's absolute nonsense.
	And they they deride people like me who don't want to be looked at.
	I want to be judged by my character.
	I don't want to be judged by my color.
	That's one aspect of who I am.
	And in his comment about black power, the only thing that's limiting black power in America is black ignorance.
	That's it.
	The black power, if you have there's a black man its president, there's a b-there's black people in justice or black people running cities all over America.
	You have the congressional black circus that's known as the Congressional Black Caucus.
	You got black people in power all over this country, and there are people like him who say black people can't be racist because we don't have any power.
	What exactly is the president?
	Who's going to be more powerful than he is?
	He is the reason why this nonsense is propagated.
	Pastors like this, with all due respect, tell their congregations this, and that's why we have black people shooting people all over this country, knowing that the the black lives movement is nothing but a fraud.
	It is not it's fraught with just idiots out there who have been taught racism in this country.
	Pastor, you want to respond to that?
	Yeah, and I'm first of all, I'm glad he got to spew his rhetoric on a different rhetoric, it's which I wasn't afforded the same opportunity.
	Um but yeah, but back to your initial question, I really didn't get a chance to answer.
	Uh when we say black lives matter, that's coming from a black perspective.
	There's nothing wrong with a black person wanting black power.
	Uh a wise man named Nilly Fuller once said, if you don't understand white supremacy, uh everything else will just confuse you.
	And your other guess is obviously who said who says he's wise.
	Oh, when you want to get him kiss up to white America, when you want to be asked, I don't need to kiss up to anybody.
	I'm a I'm I stand on my own.
	See another person.
	You're the one cueing you won't.
	You know what?
	You will never stand up in your church and tell the truth because you know black people will walk out.
	That's why you won't say it.
	Then you want to look at a person like me.
	Let me tell you something.
	I've raised four sons, three of them are grown, they are productive members of society, and they are not racist in any way.
	You want to look through the black centric lens of racism, and then you want to pretend that it exists on the other side.
	You are the worst thing that happens to this country.
	I can say it to you.
	I'd say it to your face because you know it and I know it.
	Let me ask you a question, uh, Pastor, uh, the founder of the Messianic African Nation Ministry.
	Uh, are white people allowed to worship with you?
	Um, if white people want because I'm in the streets in the neighborhood.
	If white people want to go into the neighborhood, the black neighborhood, and talk about a black Jesus and black disciples and black uh prophets, uh, they are more than welcome.
	Wait a minute, so you don't talk about white, you don't talk about I'm trying to understand.
	You don't talk about white people in your church, white prophets, white biblical teachings.
	Uh I mean, in other words, everything's broken or seen through the prism of race in your church.
	Right.
	All these uh let me ask you do you admire Martin Luther King Jr.?
	Do you admire his work?
	Well, I don't think he's the only black person.
	I didn't ask you that.
	I asked I didn't ask if he's the only one.
	I why can't you answer simple questions?
	I'm not trying to trick you.
	Right.
	Do you admire the work of Martin Luther King Jr.?
	Okay, let me finish before you interrupt me again.
	Yes, I admire the work of Martin Luking, Martin Luther King Jr., I admire the work of Kwame Ture, I admire the work of Dr. Khaled Mohammed.
	I remember.
	Stop.
	Dr. Khalid Mohammed, the guy that said kill the women, kill the children, kill the babies, kill an epithet for gay people, kill them all.
	Kill the old people.
	I didn't say I kill them all.
	I have the tape.
	You say you thought you admire, Jason.
	Okay, you you admire a guy that's an anti-Semite.
	I've interviewed, I interviewed this guy before he died.
	And he was the biggest racist I've ever met.
	He was the biggest anti-Semite I ever met.
	Are you an anti-Semite and racist?
	Why do you admire racist and anti-Semites?
	Not at all, but George Washington was a racist.
	Thomas Jefferson was a racist.
	Okay, I'm asking you.
	This is modern day.
	Martin Luther King, as Kevin pointed out, said you judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin.
	And I'm asking you, I'm having a hard time understanding.
	You're supposed to be a man of the cloth, and you you admire a man that's his kill the women, kill the children, kill the babies, kill the about gay people, kill kill the old people, kill them all.
	Do you admire that guy?
	George Washington.
	Excuse me.
	I'm asking you, listen, this is my show.
	Jefferson Shaw.
	Yeah, I do.
	And you know something.
	If you look at our founders and framers, if you actually have the ability to to put context and texture into discussion, they were men that wanted to fight to eliminate slavery at the beginning and start of this country.
	That's natural.
	Because it was such a by the way, slavery was evil.
	Slavery was evil.
	No, I know it's true.
	Slavery was evil, but in their wisdom, they actually put in place a system where we can write wrongs, correct injustices, and good people can't.
	good people can rise up like Abraham Lincoln and the Harriet Tubman and the Underground Railroad and we can fix these wrongs and injustices.
	But I'm trying to look at you modern day.
	You don't like white people, do you?
	First of all, you're Do you like white people?
	You just said you like white.
	You don't even have white, you don't have one white member of your church, do you?
	If I could finish with historically inaccurate.
	You know it, your listeners know it.
	Thomas Jefferson is the one who predicted.
	So does that all right let's let's say everything you were saying is true.
	Here's my question for you.
	Then why do you support a guy that died not that long ago that said kill women, kill anything white that ain't right in sight?
	That's what he said.
	Kill anything white that ain't right in sight, you have the tape, play it.
	Get out of town by sun.
	I say if they don't get out of town, we kill the men, we kill the women, we kill the children, we kill the babies, we kill the blind, we kill the cripple, we kill the crazy, we kill the faggots, we kill the lesbians, I said, God, we kill them all.
	He said, Oh, why kill them all?
	Why kill the women?
	First, why kill the babies?
	They're just little innocent blue-eyed babies, because God damn it, they're gonna grow up one day to rule your babies.
	Kill 'em now.
	Why kill the women in South Africa?
	I said, kill the women, because the women are the military manufacturing center.
	And every nine months they lay down on their backs, and reinforcement rolls out from between their legs.
	So shut down the military manufacturing center by killing the white woman.
	Why kill the older crackers?
	The old crepit crackers in South Africa.
	How in the hell you think they got old?
	They got old, oppressing and killing black people.
	I said, kill the cripper, come on, kill the hell fall, come all God.
	Kill 'em all.
	Kill a faggot, kill the lesbian.
	And after you kill them all, I said that day about Mandela to let you know what he really knows about me.
	Don't know a damn thing.
	I said, then you go to the goddamn grave.
	And bring them up.
	Kill 'em a goddamn kid.
	Because they didn't die hard enough.
	And if you don't have the strength to dig them up, all right.
	I think we get the point here.
	Yeah, you got the point in the first 15 seconds.
	Sean, I got to say something.
	First of all, you don't have to go back to him.
	You don't have to go anywhere.
	This ethnocentric racist that's on the phone.
	You all you gotta do to go is go back to the people that he's uh in the neighborhoods right now, uh, the people that are killing other black people.
	Ask him about those.
	Does he support them?
	Every time these suckers get on the phone, these race pimps, and that's my more my latest book is about race pimping.
	All these every time they get on the phone, they want to call people like me, Uncle Tom.
	These are the guys that are that are condoning black on black crime and wanting other people to just overlook at it.
	They condone all the deaths that are occurring in America at the hands of blacks, and it to this to the essentially to the plate, what you just played, and they don't care at all.
	They they're cheering as police officers who are human beings who do not who do more to protect blacks than anybody else in this country.
	They cheer as these men and women die on the force.
	This I mean, it's it's uh it's incredulous that this man is even allowed to get any kind of a have a church.
	Uh it it it's a it's ridiculous.
	All right, I'm gonna hold you both over for another five minutes here, and then we're gonna we'll open up our phones here.
	Uh this Tuesday edition of the Sean Hannity show, best election coverage, and we're coming to you live from Cleveland, Ohio, the site of the RNC convention.
	Coming to you from Cleveland, Ohio, it's the Republican National Convention 2016.
	Remember, one hour later tonight, as the speeches wrap up, a two-hour edition of Hannity, 1101 East Coast, and 10 to midnight on I'm sorry, eight to ten on the West Coast.
	And we continue now with Kevin Jackson, executive director of the Black Sphere, and the author of the Big Black Lie, Minister Paul Scott, founder of the Messianic Afrikan Nation Ministry.
	Now, we just had moments ago uh Minister Scott praise a guy by the name of Khalid Muhammad, who used to be uh a friend of Lewis Farrakhan.
	And uh here is what the here's the person speaking that he is praising.
	Listen to this.
	Get out of town by Sunday.
	I say if they don't get out of town, we kill the men.
	We kill the women.
	We kill the children.
	We kill the babies.
	We kill the blind.
	We kill the cripple.
	We kill the crazy.
	We kill the faggots.
	We kill the lesbians.
	I said, God, we kill 'em all.
	He said, well, why kill them all?
	Why kill the women?
	First, why kill the babies?
	They're just little innocent blue-eyed babies.
	Because God, they're gonna grow up one day to rule your babies.
	Kill 'em now.
	Why kill the women in South Africa?
	I said, kill the women because the women are the military manufacturing center.
	And every nine months they lay down on their backs, and reinforcement rolls out from between their legs.
	So shut down the military manufacturing center by killing the white woman.
	Why kill the old crackers?
	Oh, cricket crackers in South Africa.
	How in the hell you think they got old?
	They got old, oppressing and killing black people.
	I said, kill the couple, come on, kill the hell fall.
	Come on, oh God.
	Kill 'em all.
	Kill a faggot.
	Kill a lesbian.
	After you killed them all, I said that day about Mandela to let you know what he really knows about me.
	Don't know a damn thing.
	I said, then you go to the goddamn grave.
	Kill them a goddamn because they didn't die.
	All right, as we continue, Minister Paul Scott, you admire that man.
	You told me you admire that man.
	Explain why you admire a racist, a bigot, an anti-Semite like that.
	How do you justify that?
	First of all, Sean.
	You said you admired him.
	Why do you admire a man like that?
	I also said I also said I admire Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
	However, I do not advocate everything he said in his 1963.
	How could you possibly ad how could you advocate for a mu a guy that said kill everything white in sight?
	Can I answer and listing killing everybody?
	You're you're not you're not a man of the claw.
	You're supporting a racist.
	Why do you support a racist like that?
	Why do you defend him and say you admire that racist?
	I listed him as a few examples of people who practice black liberation.
	Do you will you say my question?
	Will you say right now that he is a bigoted racist?
	Yes or no?
	I think that he's no more of a racist than George Wyatt.
	I don't want to talk to you anymore.
	I don't want I don't want a bigoted racist on my program.
	Sean, it's it's so ridiculous that everything is.
	So ridiculous that you praise a guy like that.
	No, it's ridiculous.
	Absolutely.
	It speaks volumes about you.
	Kevin, we'll give you the last word.
	Look, it it it there's nothing to be said.
	The only thing I can tell you is the the only answer he should give is no.
	There is no way on God's green earth, I or any other conservative, any but any human being on this planet would believe in anything this guy says, and for him to want to parse it and say, I don't believe everything he advocates, that's who that guy is, and that's who the man you're talking to, that's what he is.
	And America outgrew this long ago, and we're still putting up with this nonsense because of these race pimps like him.
	And it it's a shame, quite honestly, that he gets any air time.
	I know you gotta have the other side and you gotta show the lunacy of the other side, but it is.
	I had no idea he believed this before we started this interview.
	I didn't know he was but you know, we learned a lot, didn't we?
	I'd say we did.
	All right, Kevin, thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	800 nine four one Sean.
	As we come to you from Cleveland, the uh RNC.
	We're gonna get to our busy telephones here.
	We'll start in Virginia, this uh final hour, news roundup hour, final hour free-for-all, as we've got uh John is in Virginia.
	John, how are you?
	Glad you called.
	Welcome to the program.
	Thank you, Sean.
	In light of these uh senseless wounding and killing of our police.
	My wife and I wanted to show our our appreciation for our local county police.
	So we went out and bought uh ten dollar gift cards from Chick-fil-A and Mo's original barbecue.
	Uh we bought a total of twenty-four of 'em, put them in an envelope with a handwritten thank you not, and I delivered those today down to the county police department desk.
	It turns out we've got to buy 19 more, and we will, and just a small way to tell them we support it.
	Thank you for doing that.
	I'll tell you what something I did last night.
	We got off the air at one o'clock in the morning.
	We went to this like, you know, sports bar kind of place, and we got chicken wings and you know, just finger food and and pizza, and there are a bunch of cops that I knew that were working all night, so I sent over a few pizzas and I sent over some chicken wings and you know, I hope people and I and every time I talk to these guys, I'm like, be safe this weekend, you're in our prayers.
	Uh I'm I'm a little nervous at these conventions.
	Not for me, I don't care about me.
	I care about these guys.
	You know what?
	I want them to go home to their families.
	There are people here with the direct goal of creating chaos, havoc, trouble, and you know, and it takes one guy with a gun, a sniper, that wants to assassinate, lie in wait, ambush these cops, and you know what?
	I have so much respect for them and the Secret Service.
	I met Department of Homeland Security people here.
	They're the nicest people in the world.
	They are there to protect and to serve.
	And it's unfortunate that we're living through these times, I'll tell you that.
	Good for you.
	And I think everybody, if you get a chance, thank the police officers when you see them.
	You know, tell them you support them.
	If you find yourself in an incident where a cop pulls you over, be extra polite, put your hands out the window, ask do whatever they say.
	Uh if you have a firearm, follow the proper protocol.
	The f and I carry a weapon.
	The proper protocol is you take your hands and you either put them way up on the steering wheel or on the dashboard, and when the cop gets over, you say, I'm a licensed concealed carry permit holder, and I have a gun on my hip.
	And, you know, just keep your hands there.
	Don't you know, you want my wallet, you know, I'll let you reach in my pocket, grab my wallet.
	If you want me to to step out of the car slowly, take the firearm out of my holster, take the firearm out of my holster.
	Make sure you're extra safe.
	You gotta be extra secure.
	You've got to inform that officer that you have a legal weapon with you, and go out of your way to let him know that you have the respect for him and his safety, and you respect that firearm, and you're a responsible firearm owner.
	That's what you've got to do.
	Uh, let's get back to our phones.
	Jen is in Atlanta, news talk WSB.
	How are you?
	Glad you called.
	Um, I think we should be focusing on um Sean Smith's mother's speech.
	I think um uh Trump should be using that very, very much against her.
	Uh Hillary.
	I mean, I think he should I think that that speech was powerful, and we should be focused on the phone.
	You know, here's the irony of all of this.
	Joe Biden literally lifted five pages when he plagiarized the speech back in the day when he was running for president.
	Uh Barack Obama had been involved in real plagiarism.
	They're talking about two lines that were similar in the case of Melania.
	Now, let me tell you what really happened last night.
	Last night was a great opening night for the convention, and the media is bored.
	You've got all these people here.
	You know, everywhere I go, for example, I see every single wannabe journalist in the world.
	They're a credible news organizations here, too.
	And they have nothing to talk about.
	There's no controversy.
	They can't say, oh, they, you know, Sheriff Clark's a racist.
	They can't say Republicans are homophobic.
	They can't say they're gonna start World War III or a nuclear holocaust.
	Uh so the convention goes really well, and they've got to find something.
	And this is how desperate that they are.
	It's pat it's just pathetic.
	The whole thing is pathetic.
	Obama himself, he stole lines from Daval Patrick.
	He stole Elizabeth Warren's.
	You didn't build that speech.
	That was from her.
	That wasn't from him.
	So, you know what?
	It's uh it's a non-story, and uh it's just a bunch of media noise, but I think the American people see through that.
	I actually was very impressed with her last night.
	I've also gotten to know her.
	One day, I'll tell you a little behind the scenes stories.
	I was in a meeting, uh, I've seen Mr. Trump.
	Melania was there, and she's so she's so polite, she's so generous in her comments, so supportive of him.
	It's actually a nice thing to see, you know, people that actually get along.
	And, you know, a woman of great accomplishment, very successful in her own right, speaks five languages.
	You know what?
	We is Is that what we have to do?
	Tear a woman down, the the wife of a presidential candidate.
	Imagine if we did that to any other candidate.
	Any male Democratic presidential candidate were going to start tearing down their wife because one or two lines in a speech are similar.
	Sounds kind of sexist to me by liberal definitions.
	It's it nauseates me.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Let's go to Scott is in Shreveport, Louisiana.
	Scott, hey, how are you?
	Welcome to Cleveland, the RNC convention, and the Sean Hannity show.
	Hey, Sean.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	I've been watching you for many, many years, listening to you for many years.
	You're a great American.
	I want to I want to say that you have also been a beacon of hope for us.
	And let me kind of give you a little background.
	My wife is a police officer.
	And about two years ago, year and a half ago, she was involved in an also involved shooting.
	It was a right about the time that the uh Ferguson incident, all the rioting started in Ferguson back in November.
	And it was very hard on our family.
	Um a police officer doesn't leave the house.
	We've been my wife and I've been married for 22 years.
	She just started this about six years ago.
	So we've been married for quite quite some time before she became a police officer.
	And she didn't leave the house that day intending to kill this guy.
	This guy came to where she was with a weapon, and as he was being escorted, I can't say much because we're actually being civilly sued right now for he pulled a weapon and pointed it at her partner, and she had to take action.
	So wait a minute.
	So your wife's on patrol, and a guy pulls a weapon on your wife's partner.
	Correct.
	And she had to pull the trigger, something no cop every any cop I know, the last thing they want to do is shoot somebody.
	So she she does the based on what you're telling me.
	She does the exact right thing to save the life of her partner, and now you're getting sued.
	Correct.
	The DA, the DA cleared her within two months.
	I actually witnessed the incident, which is very odd.
	Um I witnessed the shooting.
	She was fight I had gone to pick her up for lunch, and uh they were escorting this gentleman away from where she works, and they got into a scuffle, and I watched the scuffle start, and the next thing I knew she took two shots or three shots, actually.
	And um, anyway, it was a bad situation.
	So I don't want to go into too many details about that.
	But let me ask you a question.
	You if you witnessed it, what would have happened if she didn't draw her weapon and shoot the perpetrator?
	What would have happened?
	He would have pulled a gun out, shot her partner in the head, then shot my wife in the head, and then of course I would have been running up there.
	I was about probably 60 yards away.
	I would have run up there, I would have gotten shot.
	Uh this was near a library that was full of of people.
	Um it just it so many different things could happen.
	So the DA, you know, he within two months he cleared her, and then right up at the date, we we get a civil lawsuit from the family.
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	Well, I'm glad you shared that story.
	You know, one of the hard things I think, you know, I w I watch cops, a lot of my friends have been cops.
	I've had relatives in the in the police department, the FBI.
	I know a lot about people on the job.
	I I'm meeting a lot of them here.
	They're terrific people.
	It is a really thankless job.
	I mean, you gotta go out in streets, we've got cities, inner cities infected with infested with drug dealers and drug addicts and gangs and murderers and thugs and killers.
	And we they protect us from them every day.
	And they put their life on the line to do it.
	And, you know, if a we have a president that rushes to judgment constantly, but only in high profile cases that he can see through a racial prism to advance a narrative.
	Not when 3,470 plus people are killed in Chicago.
	Such a double standard, it makes me sick.
	Anyway, Scott, I wish you and your family the best.
	I'm sorry you have to go through this.
	Uh I've had my share of ridiculous lawsuits I've had to deal with in the course of my career.
	I think last year was the icing on the cake when I got sued by Lindsay Lohan and her mother.
	I I mean it's just ridiculous.
	And I have to hire lawyers and pay money for this, but that's I guess the world we're living in today.

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