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I think it's fair to say number one, any of us would be pretty angry.
Number two, that the Cambridge police uh acted stupidly.
I think Ferguson laid fair, a problem that is not unique to St. Louis or that area, and is not unique to our time.
And that is a simmering distrust that exists between too many police departments and too many communities of color.
We've heard stories of some of these young men uh being stopped and put on the ground by police for no reason.
And we have to close the justice gap.
How justice is applied, but also how it is perceived, how it is experienced.
Eric Holder understands this.
That's what we saw in Ferguson this summer when Michael Brown was killed and the community was divided.
But the anger and the emotion that followed his death awakened our nation once again to the reality that people in this room have long understood, which is in too many communities around the country, a gulf of mistrust exists between local residents and law enforcement.
I think that there are circumstances in which uh trust between communities and law enforcement have broken down and and uh individuals or entire departments uh may not have uh the training or the accountability uh to make sure that uh you know they are protecting and serving uh all people and not just some.
What's also true is that there are still instances in which a young black boy or brown boy is not being evaluated in terms of risk, precisely in the same way as a white young person might be uh by the police.
Too many instances of what appears to be police officers uh interacting with individuals, uh primarily African American, often poor, uh, in ways that raise troubling questions.
Too many young men of color feel targeted by law enforcement, guilty of walking while black or driving while black, judged by stereotypes that fuel fear and resentment and hopelessness.
And the worst part of it is it scars the hearts of our children, scars the hearts of white children who grow unnecessarily fearful of somebody who doesn't look like them.
Stains the heart of black children who feel as if no matter what he does, he'll always be under suspicion.
That is not the society we want.
Now the challenge for us is the federal government is is that we don't run these police forces.
I can't federalize every police force in the country and force them to retrain.
But what I can do is to start working with them collaboratively, uh, so that they can uh begin this process of change uh themselves.
We have to own up to the fact that occasionally there are going to be problems here, just as there are in every other occupation.
Uh there's some bad politicians uh who are corrupt.
There are uh folks in the business community or on Wall Street who don't do the right thing.
Well, there's some police who aren't doing the right thing.
I think there are police departments that have to do some soul searching.
I think there's some communities that have to do some soul searching, uh, but I think we as a country have to do some soul searching.
All of us as Americans should be troubled by these shootings.
Because these are not isolated incidents.
They're symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system.
You're gonna have to come together as a movement and say, here's what we want done about it.
Because you can get lip service from as many white people as you can hack into Yankee Stadium and a million more like it, who are gonna say, Well, we get it, we get it, we're gonna be nicer.
Okay.
That's not enough.
At least Black Lives Matter.
The reason those words matter is the African American community knows that on any given day, some innocent person like Sandra Bland can get into a call, and then three days later she's gonna end up dead in jail.
Whether kids are gonna get shot.
I uh I I want to drive down uh drive home one point, and that is uh the relationship between race and the criminal justice system.
Black Lives Matter is is uh social media movement that is to try to gel around Ferguson and the Eric Gardner case and some other cases that came up.
And very rapidly was posited as being a in opposition to the police.
And sometimes, like any of these loose organizations, some people pop off and say dumb things.
Try like bacon!
Pigs in a blanket!
Try like bacon!
Pigs in a blanket!
Try like bacon!
We've also got some young people here who are making history as we speak.
Let uh many of the protests uh that took place there and shine the light on the injustice that was happening.
People like DeRay McKesson, who's done some outstanding work mobilizing in Baltimore around these issues.
Down!
Move!
Take us!
Down!
Move!
Take us!
Down!
What do we want dead cops?
When do we want them now?
Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon.
How could somebody you know this incident that happened in Dallas, and by the way, glad you're with us.
Our thoughts, our prayers again go out to a group of people that generally speaking do a pretty darn good job under the most difficult circumstances every day trying to keep us safe in small towns and big cities all around the country.
Now, I want to just start.
We're hurting.
Our profession is hurting.
Dallas officers are hurting.
We're heartbroken.
No words to describe the atrocity that has occurred to our city.
And I all I know is this must stop.
Now those were the riveting and moving words of the Dallas police chief David Brown this morning at a press conference talking about this massacre in Dallas.
We have four people, at least one sniper, who said he wanted to kill white police officers.
He killed five officers, wounded seven others at this Black Lives Matter demonstration in Dallas, and it was now the deadliest law enforcement attack in the United States since September eleventh, two thousand and one.
The sniper was killed, three other people are in custody, and during the hours long standoff after the attack, in which two civilians were also wounded, the gunman told police negotiators he's upset about Black Lives Matter.
And the chief said that this morning that he's upset about the recent police shootings.
We've had two instances where these police shootings have gone down.
One is in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, the other one in Minnesota.
I d uh I I never saw a more bizarre video in my life than the one in Minnesota where a woman is with her boyfriend, he's shot by the policeman, and she's live FaceTiming this thing to the world, commenting on it like I'm just like, how about helping the person that's been shot?
But you know, we'll we'll figure out the the particulars later.
But it was more important, I guess, to get the video.
Now, you know, I I we can't have in this country trial by video.
We can't have a president of the United States that continually stirs up racial tension.
You can't tell me that him commenting again, both in the Baton Rouge case, the Minnesota case, about issues that he has no facts about.
Now I've watched the videos.
They don't look good.
They don't.
That's my general impression.
But on the other hand, videos don't always tell the entire story.
And we have a justice dis system for this.
As Killary, she knows all about the justice system.
But anyway, we have a president that's supposed to be a constitutional attorney.
He talked about the Cambridge police acting stupidly.
I have all his comments from Ferguson, Missouri, all his comments about Baltimore, all his comments about Trayvon Martin, and three hours before these five officers were killed and seven others are injured.
He's out there making more comments.
And yet, like in all the other cases, four of which he's been wrong about and never apologized about.
And you know, the I'll use the case of of Michael Brown as one great example.
He spoke out before we had the video of Michael Brown, you know, roughing up the convenience store clerk and robbing the store.
Then we he spoke out before black eyewitnesses in Ferguson identified that it was Michael Brown fighting for the officer's gun.
It was black eyewitnesses in that case that identified Michael Brown charging at the officer.
His career, by the way, is now over.
The president three hours before what happened in Dallas, talking about the two shootings in Minnesota and Louisiana, symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system.
He doesn't know that that is the case in either one of these cases.
He doesn't know the facts.
He doesn't know the particulars.
We have a system of justice, and what a reasonable president that is not as radicalized as this Frank Marshall Davis Olinski disciple, acorn organizer, friend of domestic terrorist, unrepentant terrorist heirs in Dorn coming from the church of Reverend Wright and dressing up in Muslim garb, which I saw was on the Drudge Report.
I mean, I'm trying to understand, you know, this is the same guy that won't say radical Islamic terrorist, but if it's a cop, he's going to rush the judgment as quickly as he possibly can.
You know, this was these were riveting remarks by this Dallas police chief, you know, who said that, you know, about the person responsible, he wanted to kill white officers.
It's a good thing.
And I want to share with you some of the comments from this suspect.
The suspect said he was upset about black lives matter.
He said he was upset about the recent police shootings.
The suspect said he was upset at white people.
The suspect stated he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.
The suspect stated he will eventually that we will eventually find the IEDs.
The suspect stated he was not affiliated with any groups, and he stated that he did this alone.
The suspect said other things that are part of this investigation so that we can make sure uh that everyone associated with this tragic event is brought to justice.
So that's what he was telling the police officers.
Now the police killed the suspect, this particular one holed up on the on the second floor of a parking garage.
They used an explosive device delivered by a robot.
Police ended up arresting the three other people, unclear how many people actually fired on the police.
We don't have all the details yet.
The shooting unfolding near one of the busiest parts of downtown Dallas.
Now it took place just a few blocks away from Dealy Plaza, which is where President Kennedy was assassinated in 1963.
And in the words of one paper, quote, transformed an emotional but peaceful rally into a scene of carnage and chaos.
You know, near the end of the demonstration, about 800 people were gathered, and about a hundred officers were present.
The gunfire started just before 9 p.m.
10 Eastern, 9 Central.
Uh thousands of terrified marchers, their families, their kids, they're all running for cover.
Police officers running the other way, their guns drawn.
They returned fire at the gunman.
One cop actually got behind him and apparently shot him and would have killed him, but apparently the guy had a Kevlar vest on.
Well, otherwise he would have been dead.
This guy was trained, prepared for all out war and assault.
And you know he's trained because he was shooting from a pretty long distance, except for the one guy that he shot a point blank range and shot four times in the head.
That's a different story.
One witness said she just heard pop pop pop pop pop.
Now you cannot we we have to understand something here.
The first thing, of course, are thoughts and prayers are with the families.
Their grief, their sorrow is not going away today.
It's not going away ever.
And long after this media attention fades and moves on to other issues, these families are stuck.
These friends are stuck and in mourning, and these kids will not see their parents again.
Now, to say that this was a racially motivated attack is just obvious based on what the police chief said.
And I can promise you that if the killer had been white gunning down black cops because they were black, the narrative would absolutely dominate.
I've not seen that dominating the headlines as I've been watching news and flipping channels all day.
So we'll see if this crime motivated by black racism, aimed at white police officers, is going to end up playing out the same way.
I have my doubts.
Now there's a lot of questions we've got to ask here, and I'm going to get to this today.
Number one, does it matter that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders all associate themselves with a movement that chance pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon?
Pigs in a blanket.
Does it matter Hillary gets advice from Black Lives Matter?
Does it matter that Black Lives Matter was brought to the Obama White House?
Does it matter that the president continues to rush to judgment and stir racial tension in the country?
What about the comments, for example, of the the governor uh uh of Minnesota?
They're just outrageous.
Would this have happened if those uh passengers, the driver of the peasant were white?
I don't think it would have.
Does it matter the statistics economically that blacks and minorities in this country have been disproportionately negatively impacted by the failed policies of this president and liberalism, and that so many can't get jobs as a result?
Is there an economic, socioeconomic you know, part of all of this?
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So here's the history.
The president said the Cambridge police, they acted stupidly.
He ended up having a beer summit.
He's a constitutional attorney.
He rushes to judgment often.
When Trey Von Martin happened, he didn't hear from the eyewitness that identified Trayvon on top of George Zimmerman grounding and pounding his head into concrete.
No, he said that Trayvon Martin could have been me thirty-five years ago.
He could have been my son before any evidence was presented.
Do cops have the right to the presumption of innocence before they're proven guilty?
And then, of course, on Ferguson, he said there's no excuse for police to use excessive force against protesters or throw people in jail, etc.
In too many counties around the country, a gulf of mistrust exists.
Well, that was before mostly black eye witnesses identified that Michael Brown, we had the video of him robbing a store, intimidating a clerk, uh fighting for a police officer's gun and charging at a police officer.
That was black eye witnesses that made that case.
Same thing when the Eric Gardner case.
And then he said three hours before what happened in Dallas that all I can say, and he's responding to two cases, one in Louisiana, Baton Rouge, and one in Minnesota.
That uh all of us as Americans should be troubled by these shootings because they're not isolated incidents.
Well, he doesn't know the facts of any of these shootings yet.
Well, some of them don't look good, but we don't know anything yet.
You know, when we heard first about Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman, people rushed to judgment there.
People, what do we hear the first day when Michael Brown was shot?
He was shot in the back.
He was assassinated in cold blood.
That all turned out not to be true.
The President said they're symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system.
Now at the same time, since he's been president, there's been three thousand four hundred and fifty nine murders in Chicago, his own hometown.
From the time he's been president, three thousand four hundred and fifty-nine.
I did an extensive exhaustive search today.
He has spoken out about Chicago murders in the last eight years nine times.
He doesn't know the names of any of these people in Chicago.
Mostly black on black crime.
What does that say about the president?
I guess it doesn't advance his narrative.
Three thousand four hundred and fifty-nine.
Joining us, and by the way, to add to that, the president has met with the Black Lives Latter matter movement in the White House.
We know that Hillary Clinton was supposed to give a speech today to the Black Matters uh Black Lives Matter group in Philly.
We know that she also met with them uh back in August of last year at a campaign stop.
And uh they apparently were advising, according to ABC News at the time, and that August meeting, an October meeting took place after, and Black Lives Matter, the ones that chant pigs in a blanket, fry them like Bacon, they were meeting with Hillary advising her on a criminal justice system policy.
Former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich is with us.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing well, although it's a very sobering day.
I think for all of us who care about America.
You really do.
I mean, it is very sobering.
And uh we now have five dead officers, seven others shot, and then we have calls today that there's going to be a lot more coming.
Well, and look, let's start with the point you were making, which is that it is so tragic that after almost eight years of our first African American president, uh he has made relationships worse.
He has divided the community from the people who protect it.
He has consistently rushed to judgment against the forces of law and order.
Uh he has violated virtually everything we learned from Rudy Giuliani and Mike Bloomberg about how to fix New York City, where the number of murders is so dramatically lower than Chicago that if you really want to save young black lives, uh just get Chicago to have the same law enforcement perspective as New York, and you save an amazing number of lives in the first couple of years.
So it it's it's truly tragic that Barack Obama has become the great divider uh and that in many ways uh he has helped undermine respect for the law and respect for the the rule of law.
You know, after the chanting, remember the Black Lives Matter tape of them chanting pigs in a blanket, fry him like Bacon, Obama actually invited Black Lives M L Matter leaders to the White House and thanked them for their outstanding work, and Hillary apparently has brought them on as advisors, then they're advising her on criminal justice issues.
We we saw what happened with Beyonce and you know, during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl, the cop hating political statement that she made in support of the Black Panthers and a Marxist group who was arrested for shooting a police officer.
That all happened at our Super Bowl.
He she's friends with apparently the president and the first lady.
It seems to go always go back to his radical roots all the time.
Well, and I think what has to trouble people is that we have have such a gigantic failure of liberal bureaucratic government that in Chicago, in Newark, in Detroit, in Baltimore, I mean in place after place, you've had a failure of local leadership, a failure of bureaucracy, and a failure of policy.
And in that sense, there are deeper problems today than there were ten years ago.
And it's going to require us as a people to have the courage to face reality that we need to change things so that people can get jobs, they can get educated, they can have a better future.
They don't need, you know, they don't need to feel alienated.
The most worrisome thing about last night is the rise of people who are so Alienated that they think it's legitimate for them to go out and target white policemen.
I mean, that is pure racism, and it is again a sad commentary on where Barack Obama has left America.
Hillary was supposed to meet today with Joe Biden at uh at an event in Pennsylvania.
She was going to give a speech in in Scranton, and the purpose of the speech was she was seeking to reassemble President Obama's win winning coalition amid the rise of the Black Lives Matter movement and making criminal justice overhaul a hallmark of her campaign.
Now, wouldn't one of the first places if if you cared about black lives that you would go to in Chicago and talk about the epidemic of murder and shootings, we get a record it seems like every holiday weekend.
Well, uh, I think it was last weekend there were two people shot every hour on average um in Chicago.
I I would say the following that um it there's something tragic that the President of the United States spent much of his adult life in Chicago, his wife was a Chicagoan, he taught at the University of Chicago.
The leading can the Democratic probable nominee was born in Chicago, grew up as a Chicagoan until she went to college, and yet they have behaved as though people being killed in Chicago don't count.
That's not a problem.
It's not worth it's not worthy of their attention.
And uh they've had more time and energy spent grandstanding on unique individual cases, which as you point out, they have consistently uh misstated.
Um it's it's it's a moment I think of real choice and and uh the time for us to really take seriously getting our act together as a country, recognizing that when there is a police incident, uh it has to be investigated thoroughly.
You can't pull any punches, uh, you can't have police brutality or the police killing somebody, but also recognizing that the overwhelming vast majority of policemen are risking their lives every single day, just as much as our men and women in military uniform, and they're doing so to protect our civilization and our safety, and they are worthy of our res our respect and our support.
So uh I think that there's a certain conversational opportunity for the nation between Chicago, uh Minneapolis, Baton Rouge, Dallas, uh, and we need to talk through having systems where people aren't afraid,
but at the same time we need to talk through an absolute total commitment to protect the police uh and to uh go after people who uh plot to kill the police with a ferocity because it is it it is as much a form of terrorism as anything coming from overseas.
You're also saying that we can't ignore the socioeconomic conditions that many Americans are still suffering under.
For example, and I went and I did some research on this today, that you know, since the president has been in office, median household income, which is already lower than the national average in black American households, it's literally down from thirty-seven thousand six hundred and twenty-six to thirty-five thousand three hundred and ninety-eight, and that's not factoring in anything for inflation.
In real dollars, it's down dramatically.
Or for the rising cost of health care.
Got the rising cost of health care, and now add to that you have millions more black Americans, Hispanic Americans that are on in poverty, on food stamps, and out of the labor force.
Now, the president said by every measure, everybody's better off.
By every measure that I see, everybody's worse off, and the people that are most disproportionately negatively impacted by all this is the minority communities in America.
Well, and and and black teenage unemployment has become horrendous.
60%.
That leads to genuine alienation and a genuine sense that nobody cares about them.
And that they have uh no future, and and that's about as dangerous as you can get.
Let me ask something that uh when the president said, you know, remember during the debate there was this big moment, and Bernie Sanders and Hillary were asked, all lives matter, black lives matter.
And they say black lives matter.
How could you not say all lives matter?
I don't understand the thought process.
Well, look, first of all, I'm happy to say both.
Because I think for many people in the black community, when we when you and I, as white folks say all lives matter, we're not recognizing certain unique dangers that exist for blacks.
And that that's how they feel.
It doesn't matter whether you and I feel that way.
That's how they feel.
And in that sense, I'm I'm prepared to say, look, black lives matter.
All American lives matter.
Let's be committed and let's figure out why is it that seven and a half years into Barack Obama's presidency that people in the black community think they have to remind us of black lives matter.
I mean how can we have an African American president of the United States with this total failure to protect the community to to develop the right solutions to speak out on behalf of the innocent and to recognize the need for safety is the first precondition of being able to build uh any kind of job security.
I mean you're not going to get small businesses or anybody else to invest in a neighborhood if it's totally unsafe.
And when you realize that that black teenagers have six times the unemployment rate of the country at large I mean that that is a stunning number.
Well that's a socioeconomic factors that we're talking about and liberalism has failed them but you know every election cycle and and I've known you I first interviewed you in nineteen ninety and I was there the night that you became Speaker of the House and if you look at the numbers of of opportunities that were created in cities and states were Republicans.
I'll take the city of New York for example the people that were on welfare taken off welfare over six hundred and fifty thousand people in one city were taken off welfare and got their lives back by by job opportunities that were created because they were given that ladder up and right now all I think people see is when you look at the numbers more millions more in poverty,
thirteen million more, uh 14 million more Americans on food stamps and you have the lowest labor participation rate since the 70s you you have to ask yourself what is failing here because there is certainly a connection to anger and not having an opportunity at the American dream there has to be a connection so you know and then this is without getting into narrow partisan politics when you look at the disaster that
is Baltimore and the fact by the way that there's an article out today that the police are leaving Baltimore because they're under assault by the prosecutor and new people are not signing up.
So the police force in Baltimore is shrinking at a time when there's violence in Baltimore and nobody seems to understand that this these are the kind of disasters that we're getting in towns.
The last Republican city councilman in Baltimore was elected in 1942.
So you've had basically about 70 years of absolute 100% Democratic control of the Baltimore City Council.
And they failed.
Their policies have failed.
Their leadership has failed.
In Chicago, you have the same thing, overwhelmingly a Democratic city.
And yet, you know, nobody's prepared to say, gee, these policies don't work.
And you have to ask yourself the question, how many Chicagoans have to die for the political class to finally understand that, in fact, you know, we need to change policies that are disasters?
Let me ask you this.
The group that took, I guess, credit for the assassinations, Black Power Political Organization, posted on their Facebook page that said, Black Power, Black Knights, Sniper Assassins, Takedown Fulbright.
five police officers more will be assassinated in the coming days do you like the work of our assassins get your own sniper rifle join our thousands of sniper assassins worldwide fight against depression.
Is this going to be a summer that is reminiscent of the 60s first of all the act of posting that either is or should be illegal uh the people who posted it should be liable to go to jail for inciting violence and we should we should crack down as hard as we need to to end that kind of talk.
All right Mr Speaker anyone anyone advocating hurting a policeman has passed beyond free speech into violence and advocating violence and should be treated accordingly.
It's called a terroristic threat.
It's against the law mr uh, Mr. Speaker, thank you for being with us.
And uh we uh look forward to uh having you on TV next week.
Thank you.
I want to give a shout out.
The broadcasting community, especially the talk radio community, is very, very small, and I'm blessed to work with some wonderful people that I love in this business.
Now there are a couple of that are jerks, but there are some wonderful people.
And one of them passed away this weekend, and uh he's been a friend of mine for many, many years.
He's really one of the great pioneers of broadcasting and talk radio in particular, an icon on WCBM in Baltimore.
And uh my heart was broken to hear he had a routine operation, Tom Marr, and um and he had some complications from that.
And he just he was always a friend to me, always kind, always nice, always funny, always a cerbic, which in the uh which made him the great talk show host that he was, and uh he is going to be sorely missed.
Uh, I was communicating with one of his sons uh in the last couple of days, and he's been keeping me in the loop about his progress, and he passed away yesterday.
And I just want to send a special shout out and a thank you to Tom.
Thank you for all he's done for all of us that followed him in this business by forging that path so that we can do what we do every day, because he had the guts to say what was on his mind, and just loved to tell his audience the truth every day.
And he's loved by our our family.
I mean, WCBM is like a family is a family-owned radio station, and uh just really remarkable people.
And to Sean Casey and to the Marr family and to all our friends at WCBM, our thoughts and prayers are with you.
Now, before we get to our guests, we have Duffy in New Jersey.
Duffy apparently was in Dallas last night and watching some of the protesters, and apparently you heard them chanting, the Black Lives Matter movement.
Were they chanting again, pigs in a blanket?
Yes, sir, they were.
They were saying uh How come nobody reported this?
Roll them up and fry them up or something like that.
I heard it repeatedly, and I rolled my window down.
I was driving through downtown on Ross Avenue, leaving the city, and uh it was going on and going on, and I heard it, and then I rolled my window down.
I could hear it, yeah.
That's what they were saying.
And I kept driving, and then all of a sudden I heard what I thought was fireworks.
I kept driving, and I didn't realize until hours later that it was gunfire.
Oh, good grief.
But you heard it.
You heard pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon, like we heard before.
Yes, sir, I did, and I heard it multiple times.
All right, we appreciate that report, Duffy.
Thank you for checking in with us.
And if you don't know, that's...
Remember, these are people that were invited to the White House.
Pigs in a blanket, fried like bacon.
Picks in the blankets, fried like bacon.
He's in a blanket!
He's in a blanket!
How do you get an invite to the White House after saying that?
You know, and the president praising the Black Lives Matter movement.
And Hillary Clinton, just in case you didn't know, Hillary Clinton was actually supposed to give a speech with Joe Biden today.
Uh, and she's seeking, apparently, according to a report that I read at Gateway Pundant today, seeking to reassemble the president's winning coalition amid the rise of the Black Lives Matter movement.
Ended up canceling this speech today in the wake of all of this, as Donald Trump canceled his events.
Uh also, if you go back to just last year, during a campaign stop, ABC reported this at the time that Hillary Clinton was unveiling more of her criminal justice agenda.
And uh her plan came three weeks after she held a closed door meeting with Black Lives Matter activists uh in D.C. And during the meeting, the activists discussed policies that they would like Clinton to incorporate into her agenda.
And of course, the president himself praised the leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement for their quote, outstanding work.
Now, from the meeting last year, apparently the meeting got somewhat tense at times about the issue of incarceration, but Hillary Clinton still is campaigning for and trying to get the endorsement of the Black Lives Matter movement.
And if you go back to the New York Times in February of this year, we know that you don't hear a whole lot of Hillary Clinton's Black Lives Matter's traveling roadshow, but February 22nd of this year, Hillary and Bernie Sanders were seeking to appeal to this core constituency.
And anyway, she to women and he to young people, and they both seek votes.
This was before the South Carolina primary of African Americans.
The divide was on vivid display Monday at the Mountain Zion Missionary Baptist Church as five mothers in the Black Lives Matter movement spoke powerfully about their support for Mrs. Clinton.
Anyway, joining us now is Sheriff David Clark of Milwaukee County.
Uh, and also with us is former police lieutenant Randy Sutton of Vegas and former MYPD Commissioner Bernard Kerrick.
Welcome all of you back to the program.
This is the worst killing of officers, mass killing of them since 9-11, 2001.
Sheriff Clark, I'll start with you.
You've been very critical of the president and his treatment of Black Lives Matter and some of his rush to judgment in the case of Trayvon Martin, the Cambridge Police, Ferguson, Baltimore, you know, it goes on and on.
And I'll continue to be very critical of him and Mrs. Bill Clinton.
They're straight up cop haters.
They've demonstrated that sometimes they talk to dog whistle, and other times it just come right out.
And it's very clear what they're trying to get.
Look, the law enforcement community nationwide is is in stunned disbelief in what happened to uh Dallas areas finance uh overnight, five dead, many others injured, including or wounded, including some uh citizens.
I'm still trying to get my hands around this that uh that kind of evil would would show up.
But son, it is time, it is past time that this nation come together and condemn this group of subversives, this anarchist group, Black Lives Matter.
They are a group that is filled with hate.
They stoke up rage and animosity in in a misguided sort of way.
Uh they spew propaganda about the nature of the American police officer, and I'm calling on President Barack Obama to specifically disassociate himself from this movement by name and not just talking generalities about uh someone will be brought to justice and and the violence is horrible.
That's all nonsense because yesterday the divider in chief was at it again, uh fueling anger and rage in uh the uh unfortunate uh two police use of force shootings that happened in Louisiana and in Minnesota.
Just three hours before this event, Bernie Carrick, uh the president was in Warsaw and in Poland and saying Americans should be troubled.
He was talking about incidences in Baton Rouge and one in Minnesota.
Now we do have a criminal justice system, but this seems to be a pattern with him.
If you look at Lewis Gates Jr., they the Cambridge police acted stupidly, and you know, Trayvon Martin, this could have been my son, this could have been me thirty-five years ago, or or Ferguson.
There's no excuse for police to use excessive force or you know, any of these incidents.
Eric Gardner and and even now he doesn't know what happened in Baton Rouge.
He doesn't know what happened in Minnesota, yet nobody does, because we don't know if there are eyewitnesses that are going to tell a different story like they did in Ferguson.
You know what, Sean?
Uh listen, I heard I heard what the president said, and I heard what the governor of Minnesota said, which I thought was outright it was outrageous, it was appalling.
The investigation hadn't even begun.
And he basically made a statement that if the guy in the car was white, he wouldn't have been shot.
That is the most irresponsible.
Let me play this comment because we have it here, just so people know.
This is the governor of Minnesota.
Would this have happened if those uh passengers, the driver of the passenger white?
I don't think it would have.
Yeah, I think you're right.
And just like the president's a rush to judgment.
Sean, that is insane.
Yeah, I mean, the investigation had not even begun.
And there will be investigations.
If people have doubts, if they have questions, okay, fine.
Let the let the due process take its course.
There'll be state investigations, internal investigations.
The Department of Justice will get involved.
Whatever.
But don't rush to judgment.
Don't crucify the entire law enforcement community.
Don't broad rush the law enforcement officers all over the country.
There's eight hundred thousand cops, state and local.
And these people, with this rhetoric, turn them into racists in a matter of seconds.
But But you know, things are th this is a problem, and I'll ask you, Lieutenant Randy Sutton of Vegas.
I want to ask you this question because you know, it look at all of these high profile cases.
Look at all the officers that have been on trial in Baltimore now have been found not guilty in every case, and probably the rest of them will be found not guilty.
But there was a perception created by the president, by people in the media, by politicians, that in fact this was a slam dunk.
You know, same thing in Ferguson, Missouri.
Slam dunk.
Oh my God, this officer shot Michael Brown, this this uh innocent kid, they executed him in cold blood.
Well, then we get the video that he's robbing a store, intimidating a clerk, then black eye witnesses testify truthfully and honestly that he was fighting for the officer's gun and that the officer repeatedly stopped shooting as he was being charged that by Michael Brown.
So facts matter, and when a president speaks out, what is that do to an investigation?
Well, the by interjecting himself into into these police matters, he um he has sh d showed his his incredible disdain for law enforcement.
And and it truly has an effect.
I mean, in i when he gives a statement like he did the other day uh just before the the use this this horrible terrorist attack, um he legitimizes the the Black Lives Matter movement.
And they are nothing but a a uh uh a terrorist group.
That's the that's the only that's the only reality.
And the and the president has blood on his hands.
The governor of Minnesota has blood on his hands, and much of the media who who perpetuate this this false narrative, they have blood on their hands as well.
Let me ask you, David Clark, because I think this is very, very important.
If you look at the so called Ferguson effect, police officers now and Baltimore is a great case in point that mur the murder rate is skyrocketing, and police officers are less inclined to do their hard jobs because they fear that they're gonna be victims of a political witch hunt.
There'll be a rush to judgment, like the president, like prosecutors, car what's our name, Marilyn Mosby out there in Baltimore and and others that they're gonna, you know, try and appease in that case what was a mob.
There's no doubt about that, this son has been declared on the American police officer and is causing good law enforcement officers who were engaging in very assertive uh policing, the type that uh uncovers the crimes in progress.
It it uh it identifies people wanting on serious felony warrants, they'll find weapons, they'll find large stats of drugs and that sort of thing.
It's not the nine one one call that they have to go to.
Uh officers aren't obligated to engage in high risk stops, traffic stops, field interview stops, but they do it because that is the best way to suppress crime.
But it's not worth it anymore when you have the jack voted goons from the United States Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division staring over them and and peering over their shoulder, waiting for just the slightest transgression uh to happen, unintentional in in most of these cases, and then they swoop down there looking to hang some uh uh a law enforcement officer, and that's why they're not engaged.
So, you know, there are some people, mainly liberals in the uh uh schools of criminal justice, that say, well, there's no evidence yet, there's no proof.
I don't know how much more proof we need.
Look at all the dead black people in Chicago, look at all the dead.
Well, I I actually have the numbers, Sheriff.
Sheriff, I actually went and looked them up today in detail.
Since President Obama's been in office, there's been three thousand four hundred and fifty nine murders.
Now there's been thousands more shootings, but three thousand four hundred and fifty-nine murders.
How many times do you think the president who's been so outspoken in these high profile racial cases?
No, he has.
He in in the course of eight years he's spoken out about Chicago violence nine times, only nine times, never mentioning a single victim.
The majority of these deaths are black on black crime.
I think you can look at socioeconomic factors.
I mean, m median income for black families is down in real dollars since he's been president.
Uh black and Hispanic Americans have been disproportionately impacted by the bad economy.
They have millions more in on food stamps uh out of the labor force and in poverty since he's become president.
Does that play a big part?
Sure, but you know, when I when I say none, when you can't just pinprick it, you can't come out once in a while over the course of seven and a half half years and kind of like, you know, shuffle your feet and oh yeah, that's uh that's Chicago violence, yeah, it's gotta stop.
He's gotta beat the drum like he does with his fanning the flames of anti police rhetoric, he's got to do it day in and day out for me to be convinced that he realizes that is the problem in America, not the police use of force.
Yeah.
What is your take on that?
Bernie Carrick, you know, when you were the police commissioner in New York, I mean you were working with Rudy Giuliani and you were there on nine eleven, and but the murder rate when you became uh police commissioner was around what, 2500 a year, and it went down to like three hundred a year.
Well, in the in during Rudy's time, you know, they went from in excess of two thousand down to under six hundred.
Uh and that was during his time.
Bloomberg carried it on with Ray Kelly down under four hundred, uh, I think three seventy-one was Kelly's last year, and those numbers that declined, but that was from aggressive policing.
And who benefited the greatest from those aggressive policing tactics?
The black community.
The the the communities of color in New York City, the six seven, the seven five, the seven seven, the seven nine precinct in Brooklyn.
You know, they they reduced homicides by we reduce homicide by eighty, eighty-five percent over that twenty year period.
Reduced crime by eighty-five, ninety percent in some of those communities.
They were the benefactors.
Those communities were the benefactors.
There were more people living, more people, you know, in that community, safer and and more secure than ever.
And and nobody realizes that.
You know, you they think we go out there, cops go out there to target the black community.
No, we go out to target crime.
That's where we go.
We go where the crime is.
Last word, uh, Lieutenant Randy Sutton.
Well, you know, the uh it shows what happened in New York shows that it can be done, that that crime can be uh diminished, and it could be it could happen in Chicago, but it would take a true commitment, it would take the uh the handcuffs being taken off law enforcement, and the only way to do that is with a strong political leadership.
We will never see that under Barack Obama.
All right, guys, thank you all for what you do and for speaking out and for trying to keep your community safe.
Sheriff David Clark, Lieutenant Randy Sutton, and former MYPD Commissioner Bernard Kerrick, thank you all.
Separate and apart from the particular circumstances of Ferguson, which I've am careful not to speak to because it's it's not my job as president to comment on ongoing investigations and specific cases.
Number two, that the Cambridge police uh acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home.
And number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident, is that uh there is a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately.
But my main message is is uh to the parents of uh Trayvon Martin.
Um, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon.
And uh, you know, I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans uh are gonna take this with the seriousness it deserves, and that we're gonna get to the bottom of exactly what happened.
I know the world also took notice of the small American city of Ferguson, Missouri, where a young man was killed and a community was divided.
So yes, we have our own racial and ethnic tensions, and like every country, we continually wrestle with how to reconcile the vast changes wrought by globalization and greater diversity with the traditions that we hold dear.
But we welcome the secrutiny of the world.
So that's the president speaking out repeatedly, and uh here we have, according to all the evidence and what the Dallas police are telling us, a racially motivated attack.
You have the black police chief in Dallas, David Brown, said as much, quoting the killer is saying that he was upset at white people, wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.
Now, the president has often spoken out in cases, you know, for example, the the George Zimmerman Trayvon Martin case was supposed to be black versus white, and it turned out George Zimmerman was Hispanic.
Didn't fit the narrative.
Same thing apparently has happened, I think in the Minneapolis shooting, the the person involved was happens to be Hispanic.
It really shouldn't matter, but you do know that if it's a case where the killer is white and he guns down a a black cop because they're black, the narrative would be absolutely dominant, overwhelming, and the president would lead the way.
And he has rushed to judgment on high profile race cases repeatedly.
And he's been a four-time loser repeatedly.
He was wrong in the Cambridge police case.
He was wrong in the in the Trayvon Martin case.
He was wrong in the Ferguson case.
And we keep getting not guilty verdicts in Baltimore as well.
What I'm saying here is this.
You know, we actually need people to step up and speak out.
Meanwhile, you have black on black crime.
I keep giving the numbers out in a city like Chicago that are astronomical.
3,459 murders since Obama's been president.
And thousands more shootings.
And yet the president barely says a word about it.
Because it doesn't fit his political narrative, his political agenda.
And I'm saying you can't put incidents in which white cops kill blacks in a racial frame all the time, which he does, even when it doesn't apply, like in Ferguson, Missouri.
The reason Darren Wilson, the police officer in Ferguson, was acquitted by the grand jury, is because of black eyewitnesses that said, yeah, Michael Brown charged him.
Michael Brown tried to take his gun.
And that ended up exonerating the officer in that case.
But you can't take a, you know, put things in a racial frame all of the time, even when it doesn't apply.
Like Ferguson.
And yet when a black kills a white officer and then explicitly admit a murderous rampage that was based on race.
And you can't pretend like the racial frame all of a sudden doesn't fit now.
And that's what the president and others are doing.
I wouldn't say for a moment that there aren't incidents awful, tragic, horrible of police abuse of minorities.
I'm not saying that.
But that's what we have a criminal justice system for.
And it's not for people to take the law into their own hands and practice their marksmanship and target police officers because they're white and start picking them off one by one, which is what we saw yesterday.
I understand why some people get upset and some people feel they're singled out.
You know, we we, you know, there are some bad cops out there, but they're vast overwhelming majority are good cops.
And now they're afraid to do their jobs.
Because if they do their jobs, there are people that have political motivations that transcend justice.
Because they want to, in some cases, and I'll use the case of Baltimore, they want to placate what turned out to be a mob.
And the mob was wrong, and expectations were set very high in the Freddie Gray case, that there was going to be verdicts that came back that were never coming back the way the way people were thought they would come back.
It was never going to happen.
So also developed, you know, we've got high-ranking government officials, it's attorney general, former attorney general Eric Holder was one of them.
The president is another one, creating an impression that there's systemic racism in law enforcement.
As a result, the question mark is, you know, being put over the heads of all cops.
And we have many minority police officers in the Freddie Gray case, there was a black officer involved.
There was a female officer involved.
And every officer that goes and has his day in court so far has been exonerated.
You know, you got to keep this in mind.
That, you know, when you create an impression that there's systemic racism in law enforcement, you know, a question mark is put on the heads of every law enforcement officer, not just one.
You know, we know that the killing of Michael Brown in Missouri was not an incident of police abuse.
Black eye witnesses were the ones that proved that point.
Darren Wilson, in fact, Officer Wilson apparently did everything right from what we know.
But that didn't matter.
The black lives matter spawned from the incident, which was based on myth that you know, hands up, don't shoot, it just kept going.
And going and going.
Michael Brown never raised his hands.
Instead, he was attacking and Charging a white officer after he had fought that officer for his gun, after he wouldn't listen to the officer, after he had robbed a convenience store, after he had intimidated a clerk.
Now I'm not saying that the protesters in Dallas last night wanted this.
We have one caller today that said, hey, I was there.
They were chanting again, pigs in a blanket, prime like bacon.
But there's a climate now created in which too many cops, including the vast majority who are good cops that are there to protect and to serve, are now being called into question, and where a lot of people are assuming most cops are racist.
And that now is leading to what we call the Ferguson effect, the Baltimore effect.
Call it whatever you want, but a president that continues to rush to judgment is fueling this fire.
He shouldn't be rushing to judgment in high profile racial cases.
Should be telling people to let the justice system work itself out.
Let's wait till all of the evidence is in.
You know, the president was right to profess our profound gratitude to the men and women in blue.
But what he didn't say is that his administration has helped create this atmosphere where men and women in blue are viewed suspiciously.
That is now just a fact.
I know.
The you know, the constant, you know, use of every high profile incident being seen through a racial prism is just particularly wrong and is now pay we're now paying a price.
Now I'll tell you this the only person responsible for the killing of this Dallas cops are the snipers.
And I do wish the administration has done more to speak out for cops, but they haven't.
To not put incidents that were not racially motivated in a racial prism.
The way they have.
In my experience, the cops I know are great people.
Who have great integrity, outstanding ability.
They're unusual in their courage, their dedication, community-mindedness.
There are a few bad people, but overwhelmingly they deserve our respect and gratitude.
Because they stand between us and violence.
They protect us from becoming victims.
They represent civilization versus chaos.
Life and death in many cases.
And we as Americans, including black Americans, Hispanic Americans, all Americans, because all lives matter, should have at the top of our list things to be grateful for, which is cops that are willing to protect us.
I can just tell you this, I've never been more proud of, you know, a police officer than, You know, the police chief said yesterday being part of this noble profession.
It's a profession.
The mayor of Dallas added to say that our police officers put their line life on the line every day is not hyperbole.
It's reality.
Joining us now is Patrick Poole.
He's the National Security Terrorism correspondent for PJ Media, Rich Higgins, vice president of intelligence national security programs, former manager with the Department of Defense combating terrorism, technical support and irregular warfare support program, and Dr. Ron Martinelli, author of The Truth Behind the Black Lives Matter movement and the war on police.
Is there Dr. Martinelli War on Police as the president and Hillary Clinton embraced Black Lives Matter, that movement, and is it a racist movement?
Absolutely.
I can't think of a single better example than the unfortunate tragedy in Dallas yesterday.
Uh, this is absolutely uh occurred because of the contributions of our president of the United States, former uh attorney general Eric Holder and some of the department uh administrators, as well as uh, you know, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Saunders, who have absolutely saddled up to this black nationalist Marxist international movement.
People that think that the Black Lives Matter movement is just within the United States, are naive and uninformed.
We have traced this movement to Cuba, to Northern Ireland, to the Middle East with Hamas.
This is a multinational black national Marxist movement that needs to be stopped.
What is your take on this Patrick Poole from a national security terrorism standpoint?
Um you look at the comments of Donald Trump, and he talked about this being an attack on our country, and I agree with him.
Well, Sean, we uh we certainly see that uh uh these ambush attacks on cops are up dramatically uh this year.
Uh a number of media outlets have reported that today.
Uh in fact, we we saw a um down in Val Dosta, Georgia, uh, an ambush attack guy called 911, waited for the officer to arrive and shot at him at him.
You know, we're we're seeing these attacks on a recurring basis.
Clearly, there's an escalation uh of this problem, and it seems like uh, you know, the the media uh narrative around the Black Lives Matter is is really driving it.
You know, I I wonder what you thought, Rich, of the Baton Rouge video and then the video of Minnesota.
The the Minnesota video shocked me for for another reason because it didn't actually have the real shooting in it.
But here you have a woman that is, I guess, what was she on?
Facebook, or she was just live tweeting or live video, live Facebook shot shooting.
You know, meanwhile, her boyfriend is sitting there bleeding with four bullets in him, and she's talking like, you know, it's just your average day and your average YouTube video shoot, and she's gonna post this, and she doesn't seem the least bit concerned, and she's more concerned about getting the video than helping her boyfriend.
I was shocked.
I was shocked too, Sean.
I I think that we have to understand that in you know in the information age, tactical events like that are gonna have strategic purpose behind them.
And uh, she was there to take advantage of that, feeding it into this meta-narrative that we see President Obama put forward.
I think it's important we go back to the fact that race is a wedge issue that's being used by the socialists and neo-Marxists in the Democrat Party.
You know, they're building out this popular front that includes Black Lives Matter and other groups like Council of American Islamic Relations, Muslim Students Association.
You know, he's shown himself repeatedly to be the revolutionary in chief with his above the law Secretary of State.
I mean, the real the the real the real thing that's laying on the floor today is the rule of law in America.
And we see the president attacking the military with this transgender transgender agenda, he's attacking the police, he's attacking the first amendment, he's attacking the second, he's attacking.
Well, let me ask this.
R Rich Higgins, what is the danger of trial by video?
Now, I did think the Baton Rouge video was particularly disturbing.
It seemed like the guy was down.
It's not exactly clear.
I think if we believe in the presumption of innocence before being proven guilty, I think cops deserve that as much as anybody because they're protecting that right.
But I'm worried about trial by video because video doesn't often tell the whole story.
Listen, Sean, I have a cousin.
He's a police officer up in Massachusetts, and you know, every day he deals with the 2 a.m. traffic stop.
You don't know what you're walking into.
Uh, you know, uh the and you're in the media, it's B-roll, right?
Where's the political opportunity in the 20-minute video?
You don't see everything.
Uh, and bear in mind the goal of this attacker here, it's really important for your audience to understand.
The goal of this attacker is to provoke a police overreaction.
It's to perhaps inspire a wider movement, and ultimately it's to split American society.
So Donald Trump is he's dead right.
This isn't a war on cops.
This is a war on America, the idea of America.
Well, I think it's even more dangerous than that because, you know, if the Black Lives Matter movement has the acceptability, uh Ron Martinelli of getting into the White House and they're actually, you know, presidential candidates saying white lives matter, or I'm sorry, all lives matter or or black lives matter, and they choose black lives matter, and they're getting advice like Hillary is.
I mean, the Black Lives Matter movement has been to the White House on numerous occasions.
Uh they have been uh represented uh uh as consultants with Hillary Clinton and also with Bernie Sanders.
Uh Bernie Sanders and Clinton have both adopted the Black Lives Matter uh zero uh law enforcement policy, and that policy is designed to do four things with law enforcement.
Disenfranchise them from the American people, to defund law enforcement, to Diminish law enforcement and to dissolve law enforcement.
I gotta leave it there, but thank you all for being with us.
We have an update.
I see Loretta Lynch who loves to free uh criminals like Hillary.
Well, anyway, she's in the news and she says members of the Black Lives Matter movement should not get discouraged by those who would use uh your lawful actions as a cover for their heinous violence.
Hey, Loretta, these are the same people that said pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
Pigs in a blanket.
That's all right.
They get to advise Hillary Clinton.
They get invitations to the White House to hang out with Obama.
Hillary had a pro-Black Lives Matter speech that she ended up canceling today in the wake of what happened, the assassination of these officers in Dallas.
We also have uh going back in time, Hillary Clinton got advice on criminal justice matters from the Black Lives Matter group.
That was back in October, and we know that there was a meeting in August of last year as well with the Black Lives Matter.
October and August of last year, Hillary met with the Black Lives Matter movement.
We also know that uh they're campaigning for Hillary.
We know that the monster who gunned down twelve cops last night was a black lives matter supporter, and he wanted to shoot white officers.
You don't hear a lot about Hillary's Black Lives Matter traveling road show.
Hillary and Bernie Sanders, remember the question in that debate?
All lives matter, black lives matter.
Why why is that even a difficult question?
Of course, all American lives matter.
But apparently too controversial if you're a Democrat anyway.
They're both seeking before South Carolina, they were both seeking the support of the Black Lives Matter movement.
Anyway, and now we have uh uh pre we have people saying that this is going to continue.
There's a group named the Black Power Political Organization posting on Facebook, Black Power, Black Knights, Sniper Assassins, take down five officers, and more will be assassinated in coming days.
Do you like the work of our assassins?
Get your own sniper rifle and join the thousands of sniper assassins worldwide in the fight against oppression.
Unbelievable.
War on police right before our eyes.
Joining us now, Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent, MYPD uh officer, and and currently a candidate for the U.S. House seat in Florida, Southwest Florida and District 19.
Bo Deedle is a former MYP detective, Fox News contributor, and former chief of the Dallas Police Reserve, Rick Anderson is with us.
By the way, he's the father of the friend of a friend of mine, Drew Anderson, who runs our station down in Orlando, News 965, WDBO.
Bo Didal, welcome uh back.
Um, you and I have been predicting this now for some time.
The embracing of this radical group, Black Lives Matter, and the rhetoric of a president that seems to always side, jump to jump the gun and always side against cops.
We now have an atmosphere where cops can't do their job.
And now they're being targeted for assassination.
You know, Sean, I was a cop in the early nineteen seventies.
We had the uh Black Panthers then and the Black Liberation Army was around.
We had thirteen cops killed in nineteen seventy.
We had eleven cops killed in nineteen seventy-one.
Foster and Laurie, Piagentini and Jones.
They didn't they weren't color uh uh they killed black officers also and white officers.
Then they would climb up behind them, machine gun them, shoot them in the cars.
It I just first of all, my heart and soul goes out to his offices in Dallas.
I was just there three weeks ago with You know the police chief.
Chief Brown is one of the classiest, greatest human beings ever met, and Mayor Rollins is another person I know for twenty years.
Wonderful, wonderful people.
I was just in Dallas.
Dallas is a great city.
If you notice one thing, those cops didn't have riot helmets on, didn't have all the shields.
You know what?
Because they were conducting a peaceful demonstration.
And then this Cretan, let's just call him a Cretan, gets involved with this thing, and they guns.
I mean, there's not just one, there was four.
Well, we don't know that they're trying to tell right now that this guy did it all.
It'll be very easy to explain when they get the shell case to match them up that that was the only shell cases that we used to do.
Well, no, we'll find out.
Sean, I I can't believe what I'm hearing today is that they're saying that this one man did all that damage.
Just one person, supposedly sh shot from the the uh roof from the parking lot and he was picking people off indiscriminately shooting, not sharpshooting.
You look you keep shooting bullets, they're gonna hit somebody.
But he had to be but he had to be aiming at cops.
Oh no, no, he's aiming at cops, but everyone thinks that he's a sniper.
What I'm saying is you have an AR-15 and you're pointing down and you're fast firing.
Those some of those bullets are gonna if he's pointing it at the cops, you don't have to be a sniper to hit people.
But it put it that way.
My whole point is again, is now all of a sudden but because of these two videos that that came out.
Hey, look at if a cop is a bad cop, I'm the first one to say let the courts decide.
We don't go gun down five innocent cops that were running into the fire to save the people that were there demonstrating and gunned them down and shoot them.
And did you see what he did the one guy?
He shot him, he stood over him and he shot him three more times.
How dare anyone say and can say, well, I can understand the frustration.
Understand what frustration.
These cops had nothing to do with the cops, even if those cops were wrong and they go to jail, these cops have nothing to do with it.
How can you come off and say, Oh, I feel the pressure, I feel the pressure of the people.
Bull crap.
Why don't you feel the pressure in Chicago when he had a shooting every every two hours in Chicago?
Why don't you see the pressure of the of the black Americans that are being gunned down in Baltimore and Chicago?
No one cares about Jesse Jackson came out of his freaking cave there now.
All of a sudden he's got his big mouth open and his hand out now.
All of a sudden, where was he during all this time with these kids?
Listen, three thousand four hundred and fifty-nine murders in Chicago since Obama's been president, and he's commented on it nine times.
But if it's a high profile racial incident in America, he'll rush to judgment every time.
Last week, last week there were five uh Caucasian people killed by cops.
Nobody hears about it.
No one hears about it.
All of a sudden, hey, look at America's not black, America's not white, it's not Hispanic.
I hate this division that this president has done.
It's like the 1960s again, and it's his fault.
It goes right to the leader of this country, including that other bummy idea.
What was his name?
That attorney general.
Eric Holder.
That bum.
Dan Bangino, 3,459 murders in Chicago, many more shot and injured.
I mean, you have weekends, long weekends where 50, 60 people are shot, and barely a word out of the president.
He only speaks up when it's a high profile incident that that fits his racial narrative.
Yeah, and it's convenient, Sean, that today he said during the speech, you know, we have to wait for the facts.
But you and I both know when it comes to an opportunity for him to politically leverage a divisive police interaction, some use of force interaction that may be controversial.
What does he do?
He doesn't wait for the facts at all, Sean.
He jumps right in front of the microphone, blames the NRA, blames gun owners.
Remember Michael Brown's death?
He said it was it stains the heart of black children.
He said about Trey Vaughn that uh that could have been me 35 years ago, or that could have been my son, and he says all of this without any evidence or any facts being presented.
Right?
Yeah, but he does it for a very specific reason.
You know, the why matters.
And what conservatives and liberty loving individuals need to understand is Barack Obama is selling you a box of air popcorn.
He has nothing.
He wants your money, your health care, your education.
They crave control more than anything.
But the only way they can get that is by dividing America and getting them to fight against each other and coming in for with a government solution, parachuting in in the end.
Well that's why he's well the government solution hasn't worked because you have millions more African Americans, Hispanic Americans, all Americans, millions more in poverty on food stamps and out of the labor force.
And if you look at real median income, real dollars.
I'm not talking about inflation and just the dollars.
That median income in African American households is down two thousand four hundred bucks since he's been president.
Add to that the high cost of health care, add to that the cost of living adjustment, and you say add to that that you know, if I didn't have jobs as a teenager, I would have been hanging out with my dopey friends like Bo and getting in trouble.
Um I mean, seriously.
I mean, he's not helping the black community, the Hispanic community.
They're not better off because of his economic policies.
And that that's the irony of liberalism, Sean.
That you know, they say, what do they say?
Liberals care about the poor in theory.
It's the real poor they have a problem with.
They actually are Destroying the very communities Barack Obama disingenuously claims to champion.
It's total nonsense.
Rick Anderson, you know Dallas well, and as Bo rightly points out, I mean I happen to be very fond of Dallas.
I have a lot of friends down there, and this is a great community, great people.
You don't have this kind of divide that that the president is alluding to.
And uh, you know, here you have these tragic incidents.
We don't know what happened.
We don't know the facts in Baton Rouge.
We don't know the facts uh in in Minnesota.
I mean we have video, but it that only tells part of the story, but that's what a criminal justice system is for.
And the president once again, as he's been wrong before, rushes to judgment.
Do you think that played any part in this?
Well, I think it does because you've got somebody that's making decisions from the White House on down to the attorney general all the way down sometimes to the local states.
And you know, it's infuriating people of what's going on because they're putting the things in front of the press to be c politically correct and some things that they shouldn't put out there.
And if they would just back up a step, this is a big punch in the stomach to the officers in Dallas to the families.
We our hearts go out to them, we're bleeding for them right now.
Then they're never gonna recover from this.
You can't recover losing a family member like this.
It's impossible.
They're trying to uh match it up between Black Lives Matter and you know their movement to have what is legal, a a protest that's a w well organized protest that's a peaceful protest that nobody has a problem with.
But then when they see things on television like Minneapolis, like Baton Rouge, and they see the Wait a minute, isn't there something wrong though, uh, Rick, that that when you have a president that invites the Black Lives Matter movement to the White House, when you have presidential candidates courting their vote, and then you have members of this group chanting pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon.
Why is the president associating with them?
Why is Hillary Clinton associating with them?
Well, I can't answer why they're not associated or why they are associating with him, but that's what I'm uh alluding to is the fact that the leadership is not coming back down.
What about the poor kids who lost their parents last night of the officers that were killed?
You know, they have to go to work now with or they have to go to school thinking that their mom or their dad, whoever was killed, that got one parent left and there's a target on their back.
What about the traumatic effect it has on these young kids?
Who's coming to their rescue?
It's not Hillary Clinton, it's not President Obama, it's not anybody except the local people uh on the local basis trying to help them.
And there's organizations that do that, the Dallas Police Association, the Well, we put up on our website, by the way, there is a GoFundMe page, and we've linked it to our website, Hannity.com to help these families out, Bo.
Well, we we recommend that that money be all sent to a organization called Assist the Officer dot org.
Okay, assist the officer.org.
I think that's that's what we link to, actually.
Go ahead, Bob.
Yeah, yeah, that that that's a great organization.
I used to be a member or or a board member of that organization.
Okay.
I'm still in touch with it on a daily basis and try to raise money with them as far as I can, because that money goes to officers' families, to the funerals, to the counseling, to the kids, to whatever's needed for future activity.
That's great that you're doing that, is Bo?
You know, one one of the things that uh that uh Chief Brown was involved when I went down there three weeks ago.
Operation Blue Shield.
Now that was started by this guy, Boone Pickens over here, his wife Tony Boone Pickens.
They started this group called Operation Blue Shields, where the cops interact in the inner cities, Sean, with all the community people there.
They go into high schools after late at night, uh after six o'clock at night, where the cops come in there and they they have an open forum with the kids of the community to show cops aren't these big ugly bad people.
They're fathers and sons and their brothers.
And these are programs that instead of Obama dividing and spending money foolishly on stuff that really doesn't mean anything.
We're talking about we should be putting money in there to show trades in these cities.
Show the kids there is another way other than being a drug dealer, one of these video rock rock jerks, or or taking your life and just thinking that you're gonna be the star sports person.
It ain't gonna happen that way.
You've got to work hard.
Under Chief Brown and his leadership, they have so many different pockets of officers of the PAL League, Police Athletic League.
And this Operation Blue Shield with D with Chief Brown that I'm involved in, and that's why I went down.
One of the reasons I went down to uh to Dallas, I feel as though this is something that we must do.
We have to break this wall down, this separation.
All right, I gotta thank you all uh for being with us.
Really appreciate it.
And uh please uh Rick say hi to Drew for me, and uh he's a friend of mine, uh Bo Deedle.
We'll see you on Hannity tonight.
Dan Bon Gino, former Secret Service agent, thank you all for being with us.
Here we do have an update from the Dallas Police Department.
Apparently the suspect, Mika Johnson, uh twenty-five, had a Facebook account including the following names and information.
Fahid Is Hassan is one of the aliases he used.
Richard Griffin, aka Professor Griff, and he apparently embraces a radical form of Afrocentrism, wrote a book, The Warriors Tapestry, and during the search of the suspect's home, detectives found bomb making materials, ballistic vests, rifles, ammunition, a personal journal of combat tactics, and detectives are in the process of analyzing the information contained in the journal.
I've also seen some other posts on uh social media that uh show him in a military garb almost, was surrounded by black panthers, but interestingly he's wearing if you ever watch some of the protests that go on in the Middle East and they put these turban-like things on their head, he seems to be wearing one of those holding an assault rifle.
I'm not sure exactly what it is, looks like an AR-15 to me.
Anyway, on the ground in Dallas for us is our friend William Lajaness from the Fox News Channel with the very latest.
William, what's going on?
Well, Sean, uh, you've just played out pretty well.
Um you know, they're this is a crime scene, and uh they're in the middle of collecting evidence.
They'll probably be doing so, they said for the next five days.
Uh I mean, we're talking twelve block area.
Um the operation theory right now is that this guy may have been the lone gunman, which of course conflicts with what what police thought last night when you heard this gunfire and uh ricocheting or at least echoing in this uh concrete corridor when it sounded like uh a lot more, at least two shooters, uh probably from the elevated position was the was uh what the police chief was saying.
Uh we're not sure.
And that's what the collection of evidence will show.
They'll also, of course, look at his cell phone, look at his social media, as you already have, to see who he's communicating with.
Um they'll do the search warrant.
They'll uh determine that this guy uh did go to a gun club, he's apparently a pretty good marksman, uh, took a lot of practice, he had some military training.
And when I talked to an ATF guy today, he he said when you watch him walk, when he uh got in that altercation with one officer who was killed, uh the guy that he shot at point blank range, right?
Exactly.
Right.
But when you he was saying when you see the way he moves, you can you can see he had some military training.
Although when he was in Afghanistan, he was with the engineering unit, he was a carpenter and a mason.
Having said that, um what's the latest?
You you've got twelve injured, right?
Right, right.
And uh but but the good news is you had Baylor Medical Center, you had Parkland Hospital, Trauma One Centers, both of them level one, and uh today they told us that the individuals who last night were uh in surgery and under critical condition have either been upgraded or released.
So that's the good news.
Let me ask you this, and nobody's really been talking about it.
This morning, here's the day after five police officers fatally shot, seven others injured in in Dallas.
Well, we also read the police officers were ambushed and shot in St. Louis in a suburb in Bowen, Missouri, also in Veldasta, Georgia, and authorities in Tennessee said they had a uh a shooting yesterday, also targeting cops.
Um is anybody asking the question if in any way these things might be related?
I have not heard them ask it.
I think uh uh other than other cops.
So, you know, You and I know police in America have something like three million contacts a day.
And to be judged collectively on two incidents over two days in two states is totally unrepresentative and it's not fair.
And yet that seems to be the narrative coming out of certain quarters and certain political circles.
So it's not fair.
You know it's a tight fraternity.
When you talk to these guys, and you know this, when when you talk to different police departments and and the wives of other cops in other cities, they're crying.
Yeah.
You know, and and I know that for example, in Tennessee, the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation released the name of the suspect behind yesterday morning's random shooting in Bristol, Tennessee.
They claimed the life of an area newspaper carrier and injured three others, including, yes, a local police officer.
And uh anyway, they said they've they've got all the witnesses to that case, but the findings indicate that he may have targeted people and officers after being troubled by recent events involving African Americans and law enforcement officers in other parts of the country.
I mean, it seems a little odd to be happening on the same day at the same time.
Well, I'd have to agree with you.
It's not odd.
I and I don't think it is a coincidence.
And you know, there's a lot of criticism.
That's a big story then, William.
That's my point.
Well, it is, and and some people would say, hey, look at President Obama's is talking about guns over these incidents.
Why wasn't he talking about gun violence when Fast and Furious was happening and his administration let 2,000 guns go uh, you know, out of gun stores in Phoenix under their nose with their approval.
You didn't hear it then.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I I've been bringing up all day the fact that since Obama's been president, there's been three thousand four hundred and fifty nine murders in Chicago, many thousands of others injured in shooting incidents, and the president is has talked about Chicago shootings a total of nine times throughout his presidency.
That's not exactly somebody that is you know, it seems somewhat selective that the president weighs in on what he believes to be uh cases that have a racial narrative, but he's he's utterly silent and representatively or proportionally when you look at the shootings just in Chicago, his home city.
Yeah, I I understand your point.
Um I can talk about really Dallas.
I mean in in the bigger picture about what's happening here, but I understand you can you can definitely uh connect the dots that most people would say this is not a coincidence.
Yeah.
All right, William Long Janess, we'll see you on Hannity tonight at ten Eastern.
We've got a full compliment of guests.
He's out in Dallas for us for the Fox News Channel.
Uh Larry Elder is on tonight, Darryl Parks uh is gonna be on, and of course Darrell represented in Trayvon Martin and in the Michael Brown case.
We have Sheriff Lewis from Baltimore's gonna be with us.
Bo Diedle tonight, Ben Carson tonight, Daryl Scott is a pastor in Cleveland, he's gonna join us tonight.
Also be checking in with uh Dan Patrick, the Texas Lieutenant Governor and also the Texas Attorney General is gonna join us, and you're gonna have a lot of eyewitnesses and uh people that were impacted by this terrible terrible incident.
I frankly view it as a a cop targeting terrorist attack.
Let's get to our busy phones.
Michael, North Carolina.
Michael, how are you?
I just flew in from there uh today because of uh the shooting.
I was supposed to be there for the weekend.
What's going on?
Thank you for taking my call, Sean.
I just wanted to say uh one, I appreciate you say you had to go find me uh page, and I think that is great.
I think the focus should be on the laws lost, and it's a terrible thing that happened.
But just to give her a different pers perspective.
I'm an African American male and I was I mean, sad when I heard about what happened in Minnesota, but it's no reason to go out and kill other people.
I mean, we just need to come together.
Yeah, but we don't know we we don't have the f don't you think cops deserve the presumption of innocence like everybody else?
Well, when you're African American male, Sean, it's a little bit different.
That's easy to say, and from your perspective you can say that.
But I can remember Well, I I I like the idea of cops having GoPros on with them, and apparently the the cops in Louisiana did have them on, but apparently during the struggle they went away.
But my point to you is uh, you know, we have a case.
This is a racial a racially motivated shooting.
I mean the guy who couldn't and there's no reason for it.
No reason at all.
I will hope I will hope that everybody could come together at a time.
Well then why does the president only speak out when there's high profile?
I didn't say but the president No, but the president spoke out three hours before.
He was wrong about Ferguson.
He was wrong on Trayvon Martin, he's wrong in in Baltimore, he's wrong about the Cambridge police as a four time loser.
He's supposed to be a constitutional attorney.
He speaks out on high profile race cases all the time.
He ends up being wrong all the time.
He spoke out about these two shootings that we don't have any facts about except except snippets of video.
And here then right thereafter, the cops are targeted because they're white.
I'm not saying he's responsible in any way, shape, matter, or form, but I am saying that when you have three thousand four hundred and fifty-nine murders in your own city and you only speak out nine times in eight years, you know, is it really lives that he cares about or political points that he wants to make?
Well, sir, I'm not going to change your mind, but the bottom line is you have that luxury that you can feel that way.
But as an African American male, whenever you do it with a white police officer, it's a certain certain protocol you need to go with.
And you may be at risk of losing your life.
And not all cops are bad.
You know, but but you but you're saying this as if I believe anything other than every single human being is is created by God and that we're all children of the same father.
It's not your fault.
This problem was here before both of us.
No, but I'm not but I'm only saying I look, I'm I'm not doubting that there are some cops that are that way.
But we don't but when in when a president of the United States invites a racist group like Black Lives Matter and praises them at the White House, and you have candidates for the office of presidency meeting with these groups that say pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
I've got a problem with that.
You don't have a problem with that.
Well, first is not a racist group.
I asked you.
Oh, yeah, you don't think that's racist?
Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon?
You you're saying the whole group is racist.
You can take a group of people and you can pick up some people that can't.
So maybe there are some clan members that are good people and are really just Christian and they just happen to belong to a white supremacist group.
That's very possible.
You think so?
You think it's just so it's possible that some people belong to the clan and they're not really racist?
Well, I wouldn't go that far.
So if you members are a good person.
So would you be a part of a group that chanted pigs in a blanket, fry him like bacon?
Would you be a part of that group?
I wouldn't be a part of that group.
Well, why wouldn't you be a part of that group?
Because why?
Because I don't believe that.
So I wouldn't I'm not gonna be a part of something.
Okay, so somebody so some so then the people that are a part of it we can assume do believe that.
Well, I wouldn't say wait, wait a minute.
And we we should assume that the president of the United States shouldn't invite that group to the White House.
Well, I'm sure he didn't invite somebody who actually said Excuse me, he brought the leader of the Black Lives Matter movement to the White House.
The Black Lives Matter movement is on tape saying this.
You have the leader on tape saying this.
We have members of the Black Lives Matter group chanting repeatedly.
Pigs in a blanket, brown like bacon.
Pigs in a blanket, brown like bacon.
I mean, would you would here but here's my question.
Would you be a part of that group?
A group that had members that believed that and chanted that.
I tell you what, I would be a part of uh a sit in, a dye in the city.
I'm not you know what?
You don't want to you know what?
You're playing word games.
Would you be a part of a group where a major where were a significant number of of members chanted that?
Yes or no?
You always skew the conversation how you want to skewer.
No, I want to scale up listen, uh because I'll answer the question.
I would never be a part of a group like that.
I'd never be a part of the Klan.
I'd never be a part of these racist bigoted groups.
I'd never be a part of a group that talks about killing cops.
Why is that such a hard question for you to answer?
Why?
It's not a hard question.
And why is it so hard for you to just admit that the president shouldn't invite them to the White House?
Why can't you just admit that Hillary Clinton shouldn't be kissing their ass trying to get their endorsement?
And and why can't you admit that racism is a problem and race?
There are racists in America.
I'm I'm not saying that there are not.
But you know what?
There were black lives matters uh protesters, you know, dancing as a result of the shooting last night.
I have a list of things that were written on Twitter that I don't even want to bring up on this program.
And it goes back to racism, racism institutionally that's a good thing.
Okay, but you don't want but you don't want to stand you don't want to take a stand and say you won't be a part of a group that chants that.
Why?
Well, son, will you take a stand and admit that you're answering a question with a question?
You're wasting my time.
You really are, because you know what?
You're playing word games.
It's a simple thing.
Yeah, I admit There are some people that are racist and probably some cops that are racist.
And you know what?
Put a GoPro on all of them and and we'll keep them all honest.
That's what I say.
And then we'll weed out those people that don't have the temperament or the desire to protect and serve.
But the vast majority of them do have that.
And they're now being targeted by by specific people and assassinated on the streets of our country.
Gary in Chicago.
What's up, Gary?
Uh real quick, I want to thank you right off the bat for bringing awareness to the mass killings that are happening in Chicago on a daily basis.
Um it's it is it is getting out of control.
Um not only are the kids out here killing each other, uh, we have uh which is not on the news, but we have uh over 20 people that have been shot on the expressways.
Um and uh you know these these crimes are going unsolved.
Um it's it's just getting out of control in Chicago.
Uh I just want to thank you for bringing the awareness to uh the problems that were happening.
But real quick, I wanted to call um uh I've seen a video today.
Um you just mentioned it a little bit ago.
Um this uh individual, this Dallas shooter, he um I think this black power political organization is the group that took um that said that that he was uh affiliated with this organization.
Um I noticed that this this this organization has only um been there, their Facebook page was taken down, it was only up for a month.
Their phone numbers are uh that's uh I did see that it was uh associated with another group and it was the same phone number.
I did see that.
This group that they if you call the phone number, it goes nowhere.
This group is I've I've been uh doing research for a while now.
Um I'm with a political uh community organization in Chicago.
We support our police officers.
Um I know these anti police organizations I have never heard of the case.
I want to know if this guy is connected to the new Black Panther Party.
I want to know if he's connected to the Nation of Islam or any of these other radical groups.
It'll be interesting to find out what his background is as we uh get more information in the days and weeks ahead.
