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Now look at this news item that I'm sure you never haven't heard yet.
Headline, Japan and their top court has approved blanket surveillance of the country's Muslims.
Court struck down the second appeal by Japanese Muslim plaintiffs against what they perceive as an unconstitutional invasion of privacy and freedom of religion.
Anyway, there was a leak of 114 police files.
It revealed nationwide surveillance of Japanese Muslims.
The files revealed that Muslim places of worship and restaurants and Islam-related organizations across the capital, Tokyo, were being monitored.
Now, in light of the fact we can't even monitor mosques that we know have produced radicals, like for example, the mosque that was attended by the Orlando terrorist.
That also was the mosque where the first person that was that was from that mosque used a suicide bomb in, I believe, Syria.
All from the same mosque.
Could it be, would it be so wrong of America to actually maybe go in there and find out what's being preached in that particular mosque?
Or would that be unconstitutional and Islamophobia?
Well, something is going on in there.
Some how are these people getting radicalized?
Anyway, there are certain days, certain moments that I think reveal a massive bias, which we all know journalism's dead.
It's buried.
It's over.
You know, the media, as much as they could, they, you know, the House Select Committee on Benghazi comes out.
They do their best to look the other way.
600 requests for additional security.
Great Britain pulls out of Benghazi.
The Red Cross pulls out of Benghazi.
We stay and we deny the request from people on the ground in Benghazi telling our government we're not safe here.
We need more security.
They didn't give them more security.
And then during the attack, well, they're too busy determining whether or not we have to ask permission of the Libyans to actually send in a rescue team to save American lives, and they're agonizing over whether or not the military that'll put their life on the line to save Americans, whether or not they can be in uniform, or whether it will be too offensive to the Libyan militants that are firing mortars in real time being observed by our government.
And in the end, they made our military members that were prepared to put their lives on the line and save their fellow Americans.
They made them change in and out of uniform four separate times and still never sent them.
And then of course the great lie afterwards.
A lie that, oh, this is a terror attack.
Oh, this is Ansar al-Sharia uh related terrorists.
Oh, we know that this has nothing to do with a YouTube video, but they tell us a specific lie and they contradict and tell, let's see, their own family members and the Libyan president and the Egyptian prime minister the truth that it was a terror attack.
And don't worry, the mainstream media, many journalists look the other way when it comes to a terrorist attack at an American diplomatic compound, and our government didn't provide the requested security, they didn't send in any help to save Americans.
Lives could have been saved, and then they lie about it afterwards.
I mean, it's like criminal negligence.
If you were in any other profession and you screwed up that bad, in any other profession, think about it, you would be fired.
You would not have a job the next day.
But that's not the case with government.
It's a criminal negligence.
During the attack, before the attack, after the attack, lies being told to the American people by the President of the United States, by the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the National Security Advisor, lies involving a tale of a of a YouTube video, and this being a spontaneous demonstration.
Just think of how absurd on the surface this being a spontaneous demonstration is.
Mortars were fired at the compound in Benghazi.
Mortars, mortar fire.
So you have to believe that in the middle of the spontaneous demonstration that one of these terrorists decided to pull out of their back pocket a mortar, and I'm going to shoot this now spontaneously.
I'm going to fire an RPG spontaneously.
I just happen to have it with me in my pocket.
And of course, all the other weaponry that they had in place.
Because that's what you have to believe.
You have to suspend any recognition of truth to believe their lies.
And the media covers it up.
And if it was Donald Trump, it would be a much bigger deal.
You know, for example, Hillary Clinton was uh giving a speech the other day, reading a teleprompter as usual.
In the middle of the teleprompter speech, they tell her how to react.
It says, give us sigh.
Donald Trump sucks.
Oh.
She reads the word sigh.
He's attacking my faith.
Sigh.
You know, it's just like Obama, Navy corpsman.
I can never get over the fact that he repeated again and again and again in a speech, Lance Corporal, Navy Corpsman.
All around the world.
Navy corpsman, Christian Bashar.
And lying on a gurney aboard the USNS Comfort.
A woman asked Christopher, where do you come from?
What country?
And in Creole, a corpsman Brashard responded, in Tanzini.
The United States of America.
In Tanzini, Navy Corpsman.
He doesn't know what a corman is.
And he's the commander in chief.
Now, let me give you another example of the type of bias that exists out here.
Now, the Attorney General of the United States is Loretta Lynch.
Loretta Lynch, eventually, when the FBI finishes, as James Comey says, the criminal investigation, which is ongoing into the matter of the illegal server of Hillary Clinton's.
Well, she mishandled classified information.
She mishandled special access program information.
Just the mishandling itself is in and of itself a felony.
So we know she violated and committed multiple felonies in all of this.
The investigation we're told, and then she deleted 33,000 emails that had to do with a wedding and a funeral and yoga and communicating with somebody that doesn't communicate via email.
That was her lame excuse.
Well, apparently they've been able to recover with these things, but it's an ongoing criminal investigation.
And the FBI is not supposed to have a timetable, although I think it's a little odd that the FBI's not kicking it into gear a little bit and getting this thing done so the American people can have a factual knowledge base about whether in fact they're gonna have a potential of in the case of Hillary Clinton, some type of criminal referral or indictment.
So the Attorney General Loretta Lynch met with former president Bill Clinton for a half hour on her government airplane at the Phoenix Airport on Tuesday, according to an Arizona news station.
Now, you got to put this in context.
This meeting had been unannounced.
This meeting is happening while it's Lynch's Justice Department, the FBI part of the Justice Department is investigating the handling of classified information on Hillary Clinton's illegal private email server.
And it came to light only when the local ABC Phoenix station asked Lynch about it during a press conference.
And the Obama appointee well said this.
I did see President Clinton at the Phoenix Airport as I was leaving and he spoke to myself and my husband on the plane.
Our conversation was a great deal about his grandchildren.
It was primarily social and about our Travels.
He mentioned the golf he played in Phoenix.
Oh, we talked about, let's see, golf.
We talked about our grandchildren.
You know, as I was leaving, he spoke to myself, my husband on the plane.
Our conversation was a great deal about his grandchildren and does he have grandchildren or a grandchild?
He has two.
All right.
Primarily social and about our travels.
He mentioned the golf that he played in Phoenix.
You know, primarily is an interesting adverb, isn't it?
Because the meeting was primarily social.
Primarily about travels.
But I guess not exclusively about those things.
She said primarily.
Now, uh, what other issue could be on the mind of Bill Clinton as it relates to the Loretta Lynch Justice Department that he might want to discuss with her who's the attorney general.
I don't know, maybe Hillary's email server.
She says it didn't come up because she knows it would be unethical if it came up, and it was even unethical of her to even meet with him.
Stunning.
And it should be to everybody that a sitting attorney general, who, by the way, thinks the answer to terrorism and Islamic terrorism is love.
We just got to love the terrorists more and they'll love us more.
Anyway, is in a meeting with a former president whose wife is at the center of a Justice Department, FBI criminal investigation.
Now we all know James Comey, the FBI director, he's going to make a recommendation to Loretta Lynch on whether or not to press charges against Hillary Clinton or any of her aides at the end of this probe.
He said he's on it every day himself.
He's paying attention to it.
And having Bill Clinton meet with the attorney general alone is not only inappropriate, and you know, for them to say the topic never came up, I don't believe them.
Sliff Willie.
Because the fact is that it's unseemly, it's unethical, it's improper for a former president to foster a personal connection with the very attorney general who will ultimately decide whether or not to indict his wife.
By the way, the American Mirror website pointed out that Bill Clinton was in Phoenix to attend a quote, Latino Leaders Roundtable, according to one of the apparent participants, but as the website asks, have the Clintons ever held a political event and not invited the media?
Not often, and in this case, there was no media coverage of any such event.
You only know about it because of photos of Clinton's Phoenix visit were posted on social media.
So was Bill Clinton in Phoenix for the primary purpose of setting up a private meeting with Lynch?
I'm an inquiring mind.
I'd like to know, because it turns out Lynch was in Arizona as part of a national tour to discuss law enforcement issues, focusing on community relations.
And the question is whether Bill Clinton, knowing her schedule, made a point of this rendezvous, and if so, what was the purpose and if the purpose was to shape the outcome of the criminal investigation that involves his wife?
Even Democratic Senator Chris Coons confessed that the meeting sends the wrong signal.
Even if it was brief, casual, social meeting with a former president.
I think she should have said, Look, I recognize you have a long record of leadership on fighting crime.
This is not the time for us to be having that conversation.
After the election is over, I'd welcome your advice.
Now, we don't know what was on Loretta Lynch's mind, but I'm pretty certain that we know what was on Bill's mind.
After all, we know who we're dealing with.
We're dealing with the Clintons.
Their entire lives seem to involve managing scandals, one ethical moment after another, one crisis after another.
That's second nature to who they are.
They don't leave anything to chance.
There's a blogger at Hot Air said, even if we were to assume that the obvious reason wasn't in play, what would possess the attorney general to agree to such a private meeting?
The man's wife is currently under investigation by the FBI.
And the optics alone should be enough to give any law enforcement official cold chills.
Does she regular get together and socialize with the spouses of subjects of FBI investigations.
We're supposed to believe that they spent a half an hour talking about Chelsea's kids, and the subject of the investigation never came up at all.
Sorry, that doesn't meet the smell test, does it?
You know, imagine if Jeb Bush running for president under a criminal investigation by an attorney general appointed by a Republican president who had a deep investment in Jeb's victory.
And George W. Bush just happened to meet privately with that attorney general on the attorney general's plane to discuss who God knows who what who's what, you know?
Who knows?
The president would be going literally, the press would be insane about this.
But in this case, the story, well, it's being covered, but there's no urgency.
It's not the same breathlessness, you know, that if it happened to be a Republican nominee, or if it happened to be Donald Trump.
Look, I've covered the Clintons twenty-five years.
Plus, I know their MO, I know how they operate, I know how they deal with scandals, I know they leave nothing to chance.
I know they're going to use their willpower to influence things in a direction to cover up scandals.
That's that's what they do.
This is who they are, this is what they do.
Here's another thing.
What if they got word that maybe Loretta Lynch was leaning towards going against them and going with Comey?
What if they got Fed information?
Could it be that Bill Clinton purposefully is a smart guy?
He's not a dope.
Doesn't make great decisions sometimes, but he's a d not a dope.
Did he do it on purpose so she'd have to recuse herself in the hopes that maybe they'd get somebody more favorable?
You have to consider that.
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Black Lives Matter is threatening to disrupt the Democratic Convention.
Apparently Bernie Sanders supporters are not going to be the only protesters in Philly.
Gee, I can't wait for the 25th of July.
This is going to be great.
Anyway, the Republican convention is on the 18th, and the Democratic Convention the week after.
And here we are.
Anyway, a leader of the Black Lives Matter movement is now warning that activists are prepared to protest the platform at the DNC convention in Philly next month, citing the congressional sit-in on the House floor last week over gun control as a possible model.
DeRay McKesson told Capitol Download that Congress just sat in.
So it will be interesting to see how the DNC responds to people in protest, given that Congressman literally just sat in and they seemed to validate that.
At a meeting with the presumptive nominee earlier this week, McKesson said he cautioned Clinton directly that she could not count on antipathy to Trump to turn out black voters.
I said, Hillary, I worry you're not you're underestimating how many people plan to sit out this election because they're disillusioned.
And if the DNC and if Hillary Clinton's camp don't help see her as the real choice, despite the misgivings about her, I think this is going to be more an uphill battle than it already is.
Well, Black Lives Matter.
Here's an interesting side note.
Media loves to focus on, you know, the handful of Republicans that are less than enthusiastic about Donald Trump, but meanwhile, you'd never know that the Black Lives Matters group is threatening what I just told you, and now Bernie Sanders supporters have decided to sue the DNC for fraud.
So the UPI story, a group of Bernie Sanders supporters is suing the Democratic National Convention, and their chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, alleging, quote, she rigged the primary for Hillary Clinton.
You have 120 people, including 104 Sanders donors.
They filed the suit in federal court in the Southern District of Florida in the Congresswoman's home district in the suit, the plaintiffs say that Wasserman Schultz and the DNC were fraudulent, negligent, misrepresented their true motivations in the Democratic presidential primary.
Citing internal email and memos that have been leaked by someone claiming to have gotten them from Russian hackers who access the DNC computer files, the plaintiff say the DNC only ever considered Clinton to be the likely nominee.
Lawsuit quotes from a leaked 2015 memo that states the DNC's goals in the coming months will be to frame the Republican field and the eventual nominee early and to provide a contrast between the GOP field and Hillary Clinton.
So they had it from the get go.
They were, you know, the system was corrupt, always has been corrupt.
I see Obama, I'm trying to understand what this is about.
Daily Caller had a story today.
Even the after the fiasco of the censored 9-11 transcripts, the Obama administration's trying to cover up details of the Orlando terror attack.
FBI is apparently instructing Florida agencies that responded to the attack that night to deny requests for public records pertaining to the case.
Now, this terrorist Matteen called police several times during the three-hour ordeal to declare his allegiance to ISIS.
Yet only a fraction of his discussions with authorities that night have been released to the public.
And of course, we first got the the edited redacted version.
I pledge allegiance to bleep.
Omitted.
I pledge allegiance to bleep.
Omitted.
It's unbelievable.
Anyway, so in response to a lawsuit by local media seeking the release of the 9-11 audio, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office released a letter that they got from the FBI instructing them to deny all requests for information and refer news outlets seeking information to the feds, according to the Orlando Sentinel.
The recordings and all records are public records under Florida law, and they are subject to the Freedom of Information Act requests.
The FBI doesn't have the authority to hijack Florida's Constitution, which guarantees us the right to access all non-exempt public records, said Barbara Peterson, president of the First Amendment Foundation, telling the Orlando Sentinel.
I don't know what to make of that.
Never Trump dead ender, Bill Crystal hasn't given up on his search for somebody to hurt Trump and give the nomination to Hillary, give the presidency to Hillary.
come up with a brand new candidate.
Crystal wants to take the nomination away from Trump and give it to John McCain.
Sure.
He's such a loser.
What a bunch of crybaby sore losers these people are.
Anyway, the same John McCain that blew his big chance against Barack Obama eight years ago.
Breitbart reports today that Crystal tweeted that McCain was in D.C. raising money for a Senate reelection bid.
I don't even think he can beat Dr. Kelly Ward.
When do I have to make my choice in that?
When is that primary?
I like Dr. Kelly Ward.
I'm tired of McCain and Lindsey Graham and the rest of these people.
Anyway, Crystal said just left McCain fundraiser in D.C. Happy to donate.
But the question occurred to me.
Why Senate reelection?
Why not run as an independent for president?
Now, Dr. Ward, whose polls have shown tied with McCain in the Republican primary, you said it's August 30th, right?
Pounced on Crystal's tweets.
Hillary Clinton supporter Bill Crystal is the worst sort of establishment hack.
She tweets like I tweet.
I tweet things like, Are you a jackass all the time or just on Twitter?
I love you.
You watch me when I go on my rampages.
Sometimes you'll say, Calm down.
People will think you're drinking, and I'm not drinking.
Uh, because I just let her loose.
Are you always a jackass or are you just a jackass on Twitter?
These people are obnoxious, these you know, keyboard warriors and their you know, underwear.
Oh, I gotta tell you a story later about underwear.
I d so I wear the the boxer brief combo thing.
I'll tell you later.
And I and my my mother in law gave me some.
Breaking news.
Exactly.
Big breaking news.
My wife said, Well, why are you wearing new underwear?
I said it's the same underwear, just a different color.
I didn't know they came in colors.
I think they're B V D's.
No, they're Hanes.
The Hanes is what they are.
That's what I wear.
I don't know.
I'm not ashamed of it.
Not wearing a thong.
I don't get that.
How could any woman find that comfortable?
There's the image of that whole thing is just weird to me.
You know, right up the old you know, it's all for fashion too.
The keister.
Exactly.
Uh anyway, let's get to our phones here.
Uh let us say hi to Chris in Tallahassee, Florida.
What's up, Chris?
How are you?
Hi, Sean, how are you today?
I'm good, brother.
What's going on?
I was actually calling yesterday you were talking about um, I think it was that Edwards guy and like Well, talking to the Yeah, I don't I don't buy these people that think they can talk to the dead stuff.
I and I don't either, but I have a quick story I'll tell you.
My son had Duchenne's muscular dystrophy and passed away on February the twenty second of two thousand and four.
I'm so sorry.
And I some of the stuff I would think I was goofy as a football bat, then I'll tell you about two little incidents.
We had he we had a nurse that came to the ho house so that we could get some sleep overnight when he was bad, and he had a snow globe that he liked playing with and the music and the watching the snow and all.
Well, me and my wife were this was months probably eight months after he had passed.
We were sitting on the couch talking about it, still had the chair that the nurse sat in and the snow globe sitting over by it.
It started playing, it played a melody for about six, eight seconds, a little bit of one, and we both just kind of looked at each other and we went and picked it up and talked.
It didn't even have a battery in it.
So we just thought that was a little odd.
And then I could tell, I can't comment about something I don't know about.
You know, one of my favorite authors novelists of all time is Taylor Caldwell.
And she was a phenomenal, phenomenal anyway.
There was a book written about how uh either she died or her husband died, or someone she loved died, and they had always talked about sending a sign and this flower that never bloomed bloomed.
I you know, I guess it's possible.
I just don't understand it, and you know, I believe I I believe that God can do anything.
I look, I think there is my belief is that there is a God that created the heavens and the earth and everything that always was, always will be.
And I think if you look at the majesty of creation, from the from the smallest gnat to, you know, the smallest n molecules to the DNA to the universe to universes within universes within universes and the animal kingdom and the humankind and you know it's it's spectacular.
It's beyond human understanding.
The thought of a god I think is almost beyond human comprehension.
Because we don't understand it.
We're not supposed to understand it, otherwise I'd explain it to you.
So I have this belief that there's something greater than ourselves.
And I think that anything's possible.
And I think people are given different gifts and but I also think that there are people that are frauds that prey on people's emotions.
Anyway, what else did you want to say?
I agree with that.
If there was somebody that could talk to the people that had passed, I would hunt them down because I would give anything for one minute more to talk to my son.
But I my granddaughter, me and her were I'll I'll kind of finish off with this.
How old was your son?
He was thirteen.
Ugh.
I life expectancy of Duchenne's was late teens to early twenties, and he developed cardiomyopathy when he was twelve, which is the hard part.
Sure.
And so everything, you know, we I guess you always think you have more time.
Well, we did.
But it was a horrible thing to go through.
I don't know if I could do it again, and I've got to understand anybody.
I I look, I just think I I don't I think there's certain things that would crush me in life.
Losing a child is right at the top.
Just crush it.
I uh You know, I I think I'd be drinking Kentucky clear all day and pouring it down my throat to ease the pain.
But I have a granddaughter now that reminds me greatly of him.
And she and I were I was pulling her in her wagon down the street and our cocker spaniel had passed away from cancer and she didn't she hadn't said a word about it since he had passed away.
We're walking along and all of a sudden she says Charlie's okay his name his name was Charlie.
Says Charlie's okay he's with the red dog and Jonathan and I looked at her and said and the red dog with a golden retriever we had that was reddish looking that passed like you before she you should read two books.
Um what's the one about the boy the the yellow book I read that book and and Dan Heaven is for real and you should I've read that seen the movie.
And you should read Dan Piper's book uh fifty m Ninety Minutes in Heaven.
And you know what?
It's interesting 'cause it describes you know angels and and melodies and music at a level that you just can't explain and a b uh Don Piper, sorry.
And I you know I if you ask me I think those experiences are real.
But you know I never had it myself.
I'm just saying I believe it.
So anyway I gotta run.
Thank you, Chris.
I'm sorry you lost your son and um thank you for sharing.
That's a hard thing.
I I can't well I don't want to hear from my parents they'll probably be still be yelling at me from when I was a kid.
I guarantee you my mother's still yelling at me.
Yes exactly anyway Nathan is in Lynchburg, Virginia.
What's up Nathan?
How are you?
Hey Sean.
Um the FBI needs to go ahead and investigate Laretta Lynch due to what's going on with uh Bill Clinton.
In my opinion um she said primarily that right there tells you that she didn't say we didn't talk about it at all so therefore she's not lying.
But at the end of the day she didn't mention secondary or thirdly or fourthly.
Um on top of that if Bill Clinton he's a fox.
If he um didn't say anything about it, I'm sure that you say he's a fox he's a fox, you know he's clever.
He's he knows what he's doing.
He's he's been in that position for a while.
I agree I think it was I I think this may have been done by design.
I think you have to look at that possibility.
I mean you could it's as simple as handing her a piece of paper with something that she did in her past or something that she's doing now and saying how you doing you know like in other words you keep you if you go against the listen Lenny Dykstra is a good point.
Lenny Dykstra is a player used to play for the Mets and the Phillies.
Great player Mitzi was juicing but he said he would hire investigators to look into the lives of umpires make comments to them in the strike go zone got so much bigger because they didn't want to be outed that happens all the time it's called blackmail.
Uh let's go to our phones.
Thank you, Nathan and the home of Liberty University, Lynchburg, Virginia, uh Dave in New Joycey What's up Dave?
How are you?
Hey Sean, how you doing?
I I love your show and I think you uh you do a great job.
Thank you.
The the one issue I have is when you say Bill Clinton is a smart guy.
How in the world can you say something like that after he pointed his finger at all of us in the United States.
I did not have not having essentially and you called him smart?
Okay he's got a road scholar whatever that stands for but he's not a smart guy.
Guys like that cheat on their wife and and talk like that and then meet with Loretta how do you call him smart?
I don't know.
Listen evil people that do evil things and and people that make horrible decisions it doesn't mean that they're not smart.
I did not have have sexual relations with that woman.
I never told anybody to lie not a single time.
Never slick Willie You know look parsing words the way he did it's clever I don't want to define what the definition is you can be you can you could be smart I know brilliant people.
I'll let me give you an example.
I know brilliant people that are smart in every aspect of their lives except their personal lives and they marry the wrong people and it's like divorce after divorce after divorce doesn't mean they're dumb.
It just means that aspect of their life they don't make the best decisions.
And all have sinned and fallen short.
Anyway I appreciate the call I I think there's a distinction there.
Yeah you can be smart in some aspects and the total dope in a million others.
For everyone or for Benghazi I'm sorry, yes ma'am related to Benghazi and Libby Do you know how many there were?
No, I do not know.
Ma'am, there were just over a hundred and plus.
In the second quarter, do you know how many there were?
No, I do not.
Ma'am, there were 172-ish.
Might have been one seventy-one or one seventy-three.
That's how many were there in July and August, and then in that week and a few days before the attacks.
Do you know?
There were a number of them, I know that's yes, ma'am.
That's over six hundred requests.
You've testified here this morning that you had none of those reach your desk.
Is that correct, also?
That's correct.
Madam Secretary, Mr. Blumenthal wrote you a hundred and fifty emails.
It appears from the testimony or the materials that we've read that all of those reached your desk.
Can you tell us why security requests from your professionals, the men that you just testified, and with which I agree are incredibly professional, incredibly capable people, trained in the art of keeping us all safe.
None of those made it to you.
But a man who was a friend of yours who'd never been to Libya, didn't know much about it, at least that's his testimony, didn't know much about it.
Every one of those reports that he sent on to you that had to do with situations on the ground in Libya, those made it to your desk.
You asked for more of them.
You read them, you corresponded with him, and yet the folks that worked for you didn't have the same courtesy.
Well, Congressman, uh as uh as is aware, as you're aware, he's a friend of mine.
He sent me information he thought might be of interest.
Some of it was, some of it wasn't.
Some of it I forwarded uh to be followed up on.
Uh the professionals and experts who reviewed it found some of it useful, some of it not.
Um he had no official physician in the government, and he was not at all my uh advisor on Libya.
He was a friend who sent me information that he thought might be in some way helpful.
At eleven o'clock that night, approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video.
You say to your family, two office were were killed today in Benghazi by an al Qaeda like group.
You tell you tell the American people one thing, you tell your family an entirely different story.
Also, on the night of the attack, you had a call with the president of Libya.
Here's what he said to him.
Ansar Al Sharia is claiming responsibility.
It's interesting.
Mr. Katala, one of the guys arrested and charged, actually belonged to that group.
And finally, and most significantly, the next day within 24 hours, he had a conversation with the Egyptian Prime Minister.
You told him this.
We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film.
It was a planned attack, not a protest.
Let me read that one more time.
We know, not we think, not it might be.
We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film.
It was a planned attack, not a protest.
All right, that was Jim Jordan uh second.
It was Mike Pompeo first, and they're both members, two members of the Benghazi Select Committee.
And uh welcome back.
Glad you're with us, 800 941 Sean, our two Sean Hannity show.
And I know the rest of the media seems to be ignoring very pertinent information, and we're gonna go through this very, very slowly with these two men because they know this topic better than anybody.
Congressman uh Pompeo, thank you.
Congressman Jordan.
Uh I want to be a member of the Freedom Caucus uh an honorary member.
You are, brother.
We've uh we've already told you that.
By the way, if if Paul Ryan keeps attacking Donald Trump harder than he does Hillary or or Obama, maybe he needs to go too.
Well, uh I think you notice that Mr. Pompeo didn't hold back at the press event the other day, and in our report certainly doesn't hold back from telling the truth uh no matter who uh who might be running for president.
All right, here's what I want to go through.
Let's go through the before.
Uh Congressman Pompeo, you were very clear on TV uh the other night that there were six hundred separate requests for additional security before the attack ever took place because of rising tensions, rising radicalism in and around the consulate.
And some of these came directly from the ambassador himself, and some got directly to Hillary Clinton.
Six hundred requests for security at a time that the Red Cross and the Brits were pulling out, correct?
Sean, that's exactly right.
What you see is uh her own people talking about this being a suicide mission.
It was another one of her employees a month before the attack said this was a lawless.
Uh but you have to remember the context for her was that this was fifty-six days out from an important election.
And at every turn she was putting her own political legacy in the president's politics ahead of the men who were risking their lives on the ground.
And so to put security in there would have admitted that the toppling Qaddafi had been a failure, and she wasn't about to do that.
That would have cost her politically, so she instead put those lives at risk.
All right.
Now then we have the the during part, and this is unreal to me as well.
Uh is it true, Congressman Jordan, that there was real time video, they saw the attack as it was ongoing?
Uh the drone the the the drone sees some of it.
The drone then gets repositioned when they uh are rescued by Teagan and and uh Toronto and those guys and and the State Department f uh people are taken to the annex and then the drone gets repositioned um and and it's in it.
But there but there is video of the ongoing attack, is that correct?
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, there's the guy in there, there's there's the drone that that is positioned over top, and then there's there's the video that's taken from uh the command center at the at the State Department uh facility there, the guy in the in the uh operation center is seeing things as well.
All right, so and and we had the security cameras there.
Why hasn't this video been released to the public?
Uh again, while there's lots of questions we have.
Why can't we get certain information released?
Why weren't we able to get out of here?
Yeah, we we were able to see it, but you know, we can't really talk about it.
Uh well can I ask you this much the classified setting.
Uh I gotta assume that if this is a spontaneous demonstration and we know that there's mortar fire, you would have to believe that people spontaneously just happened to have mortars in their back pocket.
Sean, Sean, this is uh Mike Bombeo.
I let me assure you, uh, if your listeners had a chance to see this video, they would come to the same conclusion that uh Jim Jordan and I did.
Uh, and that frankly Secretary Clinton did within hours.
This was a terrorist attack, a jihadist radical Islamist attack on an American facility, and uh there was no one on the ground that night who thought anything different at any time.
So then we know during the attack, and I've interviewed the men Tig and and Tanto Peranto and all these other guys, and we lost two men, Ty Woods and and Glenn Doherty, but they were told three times not to go help Americans under fire less than a mile away, and then they all defied orders, risked their entire careers to save their fellow Americans.
And uh in fact I believe they did save lives doing that.
And so they went.
Do we know where that stand down order came from?
Well, there's conflicting testimony, uh, but I I I'll tell you this.
Uh, I know who I believe.
I I suspect I know who the American people believe, I know who you believe, Sean, and who Mike believes.
Uh go to go to the the question of motive.
Who has a motive to wait?
The guy who's the station chief with the CIA who's talking with the folks in Washington, the same folks in Washington who didn't even get assets in the air before the attack was over.
Does he have this does he have a send him to a motive to possibly wait?
And and and or do you are you gonna believe the guys who actually risked their lives and went and saved their fellow citizens?
I mean, I know who I'm gonna believe, but we did have conflicting testimony from the and by the way, and Hillary talks to all the previous all the previous reports that were done on this, but they didn't interview the people that actually were there on the ground.
They relied on people in Virginia, didn't they, for their Sean?
It's been remarkable to watch the mainstream media and frankly, Secretary Clinton too.
Talk about how there's no new information.
Yeah.
We we had access to literally, we think everyone who was on the ground that night, we talked to um uh not only the senior leaders, but folks who were engaged in the tactical operation, and the facts that we learned, I mean, it was unknown.
At no time, this is this is so remarkable.
At no time did we even try to go rescue these folks.
Uh well, and that and that's the other part of this.
I mean, you had an instance where, you know, they're in a meeting at seven thirty.
This went on for hours and hours and hours, and the meeting was more about what the political excuse would be.
And apparently we had troops ready to go in and rescue them, but the main concern according to the report was A, whether they need to get permission to rescue Americans, and B, whether or not our soldiers that are going to do the rescue can be in uniform and they had to change their clothes four separate times and still weren't sent ever.
Yeah.
Can they can they can they go in uniform?
Can they go in marked vehicles?
Can they take their own weapons?
They were asking questions like that instead of just let's focus on doing what we can to get there as quickly as we can.
The urgency that uh that was shown on the ground in both Tripoli and Benghazi from the people who were fighting for their lives versus the lack of it in Washington is so telling.
But as Mike said, Sean, politics drove it all.
Politics drove the decision to stay.
When one diplomatic security agent said what what Mike had said, you know, that it's a suicide and that everyone here is going to die.
They stayed because it's supposed to be their legacy, their shining example have it work.
They didn't get people moving in the right kind of time frame during because they were concerned about politics, and then of course they misled the American people after it happened because they were so close, well, like six days.
And the message had been, you know, GM's alive, Bin Laden dead.
We can't tell the truth here.
We're going to mislead the American people.
All right.
Now what about this guy who was in control of the drone, John?
I know he spoke to your committee and we had him on this radio program.
What information did he tell you about what he saw?
Uh Sean, we we're we're not allowed to communicate that yet.
Uh we did interview uh that individual who wasn't.
Well, can I ask a question?
Why can't the American people see this video?
Why ca what's the big secret?
We know that we were it was a terror attack.
It's on video.
Why don't we why don't we show the American people what the State Department and our government was seeing and didn't react to?
Sean we're saying we should.
Yeah, Sean, they should, and I'm still hopeful that we will.
I'm confident that we will ultimately get all the transcripts of every interview, every word so the American people can see that.
Uh I I'm less confident that we'll get the video release, but I am hopeful.
There's no rationale for not releasing that.
There's no risk to sources or method.
The American people ought to be able to see that.
I formed their own judgment.
Who decides who decides we can't see this?
Uh sadly it's the very same people who brought you the catastrophe in the first place.
Oh, so in other words, it's the Obama administration.
That's correct.
All right, let me ask this.
This is I think a really important question.
So after you didn't send the they didn't send anybody in to help them, and then they were agonizing over whether to ask permission from Libya and and whether our our brave men and women involved in the rescue would be allowed to wear their uniforms.
Um then the whole lie came up after.
Jim Jordan, you were questioning Hillary Clinton.
Now we know that while she was telling the American people that this was related to a YouTube video, she told her daughter that this was a terror attack.
Uh she told the Egyptian prime minister it was a terror attack.
She told the Libyan president it was a terror attack.
She even mentioned the group and it turned out to be Ansar al Sharia.
So uh uh so she just flat out lied to everybody.
Yeah, she she sure did tell two different stories, and we highlight this in what uh in our report where we go day by day, and it wasn't just her, it was other senior people in our government, again, telling the truth privately that it was a terrorist attack, but publicly going to the video.
Jay Carney on September 14th at a press briefing says we have nothing to suggest it was pre-planned.
That very day, people in Tripoli for the State Department say it was a well planned attack.
You couldn't be more opposite.
Well planned the terrorist attack versus nothing to suggest there was any pre-planning that they said publicly.
They continued this for days and days, and it culminated and frankly even continued after.
Rice went on uh Ambassador Rice went on the five shows that Sunday morning and completely erased the line, uh any type of connection uh to to the truth and said it was a video all the way.
I don't know what to make of this.
So before six hundred requests were denied by Hillary and her State Department and the administration.
Then during the attack they refused to send anybody in.
They they give a stand down order.
We don't even know where that original stand down order come from comes from.
They're agonizing over getting permission from Libya and whether our troops that are gonna do the rescue can even wear their own uniforms because they don't want to offend the Libyans, and then they eventually end up sending nobody while they're watching all of this unfold in real time on video, and they know these guys are dying and they did nothing.
And then they lie about it after.
So is that pretty much sum it up?
Sean, you you summed it up well.
I I I think Representative Jordan and I would both agree.
Uh put it in the context of this administration as well.
They have consistently called these folks JV.
They they refer to they refuse to acknowledge that we're at war with radical Islamic S jihadists.
This event took place.
These four Americans, these brave men were killed in the context of an administration that was all about their political legacy and not about saving their lives.
That's the that's the bottom line story of what our committee uncovered in the course of our investigation.
It should take every American's breath away.
What can we do to get that tape out so the American people can say it?
Is there any freedom of information act request?
It it's tough to overcome the the you know until they declassify it and say it's it's it's appropriate.
Can I ask you this?
Would the American people be shocked if they saw it?
Sean, I would say that when the American people see it, they will recognize that any pretense that this was anything other than an attack by radical Islamic jihadists would evaporate the moment they watch the.
How many requests have been made to release this tape.
I want the tape.
We'll have to get you the information.
We have been asking for this to be released.
Well, I've talked to people that have seen the tape, and they say it's obviously a terror attack.
Morders are being fired.
There's about a hundred or so people, and it's a full-on attack.
Is that accurate?
Yes.
So how many times have people requested the release of the tape?
Have you guys requested the release of the tape?
We we certainly have, and we're going to continue to, and we won't stop until uh we we figure out how to do it.
Maybe we'll see it after Hillary's elected or after the election, right?
I mean, let's hide it from the American people and let's uh elect an incompetent president like the one we have now.
All right.
Uh so I am now an official member of the freedom coalition in Congress.
You're in, Roger.
You're in.
Uh could you please tell Paul Ryan and company to stop trashing Trump and maybe use their firepower to stop the Obama agenda and the Hillary agenda?
Can you pass on that message from me?
Sure.
All right, I appreciate it.
A while ago, my friend Eric Bowling, he's one of the co-hosts of the five, tells me he's writing this book.
It's called Wake Up America, The Nine Virtues That Made Our Nation Great and Why We Need The More Than Ever.
It's a great title.
I love it.
And uh, you know, so I get a copy, you get an early copy of the book when you when you give a blurb for a book.
And I see he dedicates this book to Obama.
And I'm like, you dedicate the book to Barack, Hussein Obama?
What are you doing?
All right, so for years people say write a book, bowling we like this wake up America thing you do on Cash and Ain at the end of the show, and say it's a rant, it's an anti-PC rant.
We got to bring the country back to the right, they're pulling it too far left.
And it really has all been based on everything President Obama and his minions have done to the country for the last seven and a half years.
Remember, three weeks before he got elected, he famously said, and you've talked about it for years, I'm want to fundamentally transform the United States of America.
And then we elected him anyway.
Three weeks later he gets the election, and he's done nothing but pull a country far left.
So this is a pushback on all that left-wing ideology from the media to the politics to the academia.
And they started to write, and I finished the book, it flowed, it was I loved it.
It was amazing.
It was easy to write.
And at the end, the publisher said, This is a great book, but who do you want to dedicate it to?
You but they they said your family, your wife?
I said, No, I'll acknowledge them.
They'll be the first acknowledgement, but I have to dedicate this to Barack Obama.
He basically made the book an easy, easy right.
You know, think about where we are now.
I mean, we've been covering covering the story of Istanbul, another terror attack, you know, a week after Orlando, we cover another terror attack.
All ISIS related things.
It was less than two years ago, Obama said they're the JV team, just before the Paris attacks.
He claimed that they were contained.
You know, for years, this mysterious reluctance of his and and Hillary's that they don't say Islamic terrorism, radical Islamic terrorism.
And then you look at their decisions.
Why do you release terrorists at Gitmo?
Why are you against enhanced interrogation when it led us to Bin Laden?
Uh why don't you control the borders?
Why do you give 150 billion to Iran?
And I I you know, every decision they make, why do you pull out of Iraq?
Why don't you follow up on your red line in Syria?
I don't understand it.
Every decision they make makes us less safe, makes the America less safe, makes the globe less safe.
John Kerry says they're on the run.
ISIS is on the run.
That's why they're blowing people up around the world.
Obama says we we haven't contained their the JV team.
Meanwhile, John Brennan, the head of the CIA, uh um James Comey, the head of the FBI, and McCall yesterday, Homeland Security, says they're not contained.
They're spreading, they're mad, and they're they're on their way here.
This reminds me of the lead up to 9-11 because you had the Cobard Towers in Saudi Arabia.
You had the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, you had the USS Cole, you had the first trade center bombing, and then boom, 9-11 happens.
Oh, how did this happen?
What is Islam?
What is radical Islam?
Who are these people?
Who's Al Qaeda?
Uh they're not getting weaker.
This is not a sign of weakness.
This is a sign of them kicking our ass.
Yeah, the and and they can't wait to perpetrate another big one here.
That's what they're looking at.
They want another 9-11.
We all know.
I was there for 9-11.
I don't want another 9-11.
Uh uh, I think when the Intel department, every single layer of intel says they're on their way, they've got a plan, and they're just trying to get that right plans right and work their way through.
And then the the administration, the White House, and the and the Secretary of State saying they're on the run.
What signal are we telling them?
How about what signal are we telling all our FBI CIA and Homeland Security personnel?
What?
We got this?
No, we don't have it.
You know, you raise a good question, because we're now in the middle of a campaign, and the president's insisting at the cost of $20,000 a person.
Well, why don't we give that to Americans in Detroit and inner city America, you know, rather than refugees from Syria when we can set up a safe zone?
But we had, you know, you mentioned James Comey, the National Director of Intel Intelligence Clapper.
You mentioned, you know, General John Allen, Obama's former special envoy to defeat ISIS, then the assistant FBI director, now the CIA director, and the Homeland Security Committee chairman.
All saying ISIS is going to infiltrate the refugee population.
All right, Obama's bringing them in, and Hillary wants to increase the number 550%.
Yeah.
Right.
He says 10,000, she says let's make it 65,000 refugees.
Isn't that gambling with the lives of the American people?
Oh, but they can vet it.
Remember, they can vet it.
Oh, come on.
Give me J. How do you vet that?
Tell me how John Brennan, I would say he's probably the most liberal CIA m chief we've had in in decades.
Right.
He's no right winger, and he's the one who's telling us we got to be careful.
There are a lot of them.
There's thousands, he says, thousands of of ISIS fighters looking to kill and infiltrate the West.
And as you point out, Sean, through the refugee program, that's one of them.
All right.
So I've been I'm friends with all of you guys on the five.
I've been a big supporter of the show from day one.
It's a massive hit.
You have.
By the way, and TV, isn't it weird that some people don't want other shows to succeed?
It's so stupid.
I gotta be honest with you, Sean.
You were one of the you you and Greta were the two people who came forward first.
Oh my god.
You're first, and Greta right after and said, This is a good show.
You guys are doing something here.
No one else believed that.
There weren't many people who are.
Well it's funny because people would ask me, Well, why do you say this is a hit?
I said, because it's it's a great show.
And it's it's every day I watch you.
I mean, I kind of like it.
I know this is probably bad, but when you guys really go at it and you're killing each other, I like that those parts the most.
Do you?
Yeah.
Do you miss Beckle?
Dearly.
I love Juan.
Juan's a great, great cast member, but I'm Bob is my friend first.
Yeah.
And then a and then a uh TV uh the other side of the corner.
I'm mad at him, though.
I'm mad about him.
I'm mad at him.
I taught last time he was on the program was for his book, and I said, I'm pissed off at you.
Because, you know, literally, you just drop off the face of the earth.
Yeah.
He doesn't contact us anymore.
He butt dialed me on Father's Day.
Is that what he did?
Phone rings, it's Beckle.
You know, I have him in the uh the ID on there, it's Bob Beckle.
I I answer, he's like, huh?
He's like, oh, hey, sorry, butt dialed you.
And then we had a nice conversation.
Who have you had the biggest who have you had the biggest fight on the show with?
What good is I think?
I'll be honest with you.
Yeah.
No, let's put let's be straightforward.
I pr well, I've had a a massive brawl with Greg Gutfeld over the NSA program.
Right.
I mean, he's I I I'm more libertarian fourth amendment.
Yeah.
And we know we're good.
And I've had big brawls with Dana over Donald Trump.
You know, is that the same thing?
She's not she's not a Trump supporter.
Is she gonna vote for Trump?
I think she will.
I mean, I I think it's it's like, you know, the crew that says I can't stand him, I can't stand it.
But at the end of the day, you know, if you want federal judges that are liberal, if you want Supreme Court judges that are liberal, you want a liberal court uh you want a whole judicial branch that's liberal for our kids' lifetimes and then vote for Hillary or don't vote for Trump.
It's the same thing.
Are you surprised as I am, you know, that so that there's this group of Republicans that are trying to sabotage Trump?
Because here's my take on Trump.
He is gonna build a wall.
That's a conservative policy.
He's told me many times he even likes the penny plan, he wants a balanced budget and and eliminating deficits.
He told me wants to fix the VA, build up our nation's military.
Reagan did that.
Uh he wants to eliminate Obamacare.
He wants energy independence, he wants education sent back to the States.
What part of that is not conservative?
None of that.
None of that.
It's all conservative.
Sean, you I I scratch my head because you and I both have have been pretty vocal about saying we need someone new, we need something different in the White House.
We need something new on the right as well, and I think he shakes it up a little bit.
For Bill Crystal and George Will to do what they're doing, I I I I think they're they're gonna kill the country.
Uh, they're gonna k they're gonna they're gonna elect Hillary Clinton the two of those.
I'll be more more outspoken.
I will tell you right now.
If Donald Trump loses, I blame the Speaker of the House.
I blame Senator McConnell.
I blame weak, timid, feckless, spineless Republicans in DC that have been so timid.
They're more critical of Trump than they are that they've ever been of Obama or Hillary.
Absolutely.
What is that?
You know, you don't like Trump, but but does that mean by default you like Hillary?
Or even if you don't like Hillary, you're going to get her unless you get everyone behind Trump.
Look, Mitt Romney got destroyed in 2012.
Right.
Right.
Take the this the state's one.
Yeah.
They should be read.
Donald Trump should have those.
He should have those lockdowns.
All Donald Trump has to do right now is win Florida, Ohio, and either Pennsylvania or Michigan.
One of those two.
Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
Right now he's tied in Ohio.
It's a little deeper.
He's got to win North Carolina.
That's a that's become a little more purple than we like.
I'd like to see him win Virginia, New Hampshire, Iowa, New Mexico, Colorado, and Nevada.
Just take Romney and add those three.
And you win.
That's that's big.
But those three are tough.
He's tied in Ohio, he's tied in Pennsylvania.
Oh, I agree.
Listen, and then so look at the Raspherson poll today.
It's 4339.
Um the Fox poll yesterday had him down six.
The Queen Quinapiac poll had him down two.
So I'd say it's probably dead even right now, as the swing states are dead even.
I think it's an even race right now.
And he's had he's had a rough couple of weeks, and it's still dead even and he hasn't spent nearly the money that the left has spent.
I think the last two weeks have been great for him.
I think he's gotten back on message.
You know why?
Brexit.
Brexit.
Oh, John, this is this is this is um this is uh nationalism pushing back on globalism.
And this is the the thing that Donald Trump, when he came down the escalator, the first thing out of his mouth, you said it, yeah, was the wall.
Nationalism.
Build a wall on our southern border, let them pay for it.
And sp and the next thing that came out was and for now, let's hold off on mus uh on Muslim immigration into the country.
That's nationalism.
It's spreading in Europe.
Trump had the right right idea here.
I don't think there's any doubt.
Uh look, I don't want to send American men and women to go fight wars that get politicized, and then all that they fought, bled, and died for gets handed over to a group like ISIS because we then have a president that's that's not willing to finish the job.
Yeah.
You know, we did that in Vietnam.
Now we've done it in Iraq, and I think if we're gonna fight wars, we either win them or we don't go in.
So the polling, right?
You it's it looks like it's it's even.
If it's Erasmus and Paul has Trump up, the the the last Fox poll has them a statistical tie.
He he she's up by six, but it's plus or minus three, so three on each side.
That makes it statistical tie.
Um but but Trump wins in a very important area in independence.
He beats her in independence.
So if you if you think that there's a whole group out there that says I can't vote for Trump if you call him up on the phone, and he'll go in the voting booth and pull a lever for Trump.
I really believe that.
I do.
And you know who else I think is gonna end up voting for Trump if he gets his act together?
Bernie Sanders people.
Well, the polls show that.
Actually, 22 percent in one poll showed that.
And 22% look at this way.
So he got 40% of the d Democrat vote, right?
She got sixty.
Twenty-two percent of forty is ten percent.
Ten percent of the Democrat vote going to Trump is a win.
Take that take that the next step.
And if Donald Trump can can pull that off, he's the next president.
Yeah.
Done.
Done.
Dunzo.
Uh let me talk a little bit more about your book.
All right, so you have these nine issues.
It's by the way, Eric Polling.
Can I ask you something about that?
Are you are you are you?
It's my show.
You want to take over my show?
You're so proud that you're you're named above Donald Trump on the back of the book.
I'm named below O'Reilly.
I'm named below O'Reilly.
Yeah, but he's first in your second.
What is up?
Poor Levin.
Levin's after Cuban.
Yeah, you you got me, you got Donald Trump, Cuban, and Mark Levin.
He's gonna be upset, right?
No.
The gray one?
The gray one is the great one.
There's nobody better.
He's the he's a little m he's a little upset with me lately.
What are the why is he upset with you?
Donald Trump.
I think listen, I think at the end of the day, he's not voting for Hillary.
Who Levin?
Yeah.
Obviously not.
I I love his passion.
He supported Ted Cruz.
I took a very different approach.
You took a different approach in the in the primary.
But at the end of the day, I think that everyone's gonna come together.
I think the person that has to worry is if Hillary Clinton has to pick Elizabeth Warren to shore up her base, then she can't go after the independents, as you rightly point out, that are now going for Trump.
All right, what are these nine virtues you talk about that make the country great and why we need a more than ever?
Conservative values, Sean.
That then when I started writing the book, I wanted to say what are the the core values or virtues that the conservatives had the conservatives had.
And I came up, I started writing it in up being nine.
Also, so I write this book.
I think it's fantastic.
I put some personal stories in there about my childhood.
Um and then I send it to the publisher and they're like, you know what?
Let's make this even spicier.
Go back and let's bring in some history.
So talk about some founding fathers, do some research.
And I add some ideas that the founding fathers had that end up being American virtues, conservative virtues and values, and put in some personal stories.
And by the way, Sean, the the the book out of the blue within two days, 48 hours, hit number three on Amazon all books and number one in all political books.
That's awesome.
Well, you well deserved.
You know what?
You become a strong conservative voice in the country.
Thanks to you and my own.
And by the way, and you started out like me with nothing.
I mean, and you know what?
You begin to appre and you're rich as hell, aren't you?
You've made all that money on Wall Street.
I don't have hand-edy money, but I'm doing all right.
Nobody has had it.
That's true.
What is the why is everybody say that to me?
Because it's true.
Because I've been in radio thirty years.
I work for free for years.
I worked for $19,000 in my first radio paid job.
All right, can I I've lived in five different states.
I travel as a radio gypsy going all over the country.
But you know what?
No one ever finishes a story.
I didn't get to start in New York like you did.
Let me I didn't start in New York.
I'm from Chicago.
All right, but you started at Fox.
Shoveling snow and mowing lawns.
Can I finish your story, though?
Yes.
You you have handity money, but you are the nicest, most generous human being on the planet.
You're very kind of I have stories.
I could tell the stories.
Oh, you can't, because we're out of time.
You can't tell any stories.
Very, very generous man.
All right, you brought your assistant with you.
I gotta ask.
So you are the assistant to to Eric and to KG.
Who's easier to deal with?
Eric or KG?
She said Eric.
Cook what?
Yes, Eric.
Eric.
All right.
I'm playing I'm sending this tape over to Kimberly.
No, we're sending the tape over.
She'll kill me.
All right.
You'll never see me again.
I did see President Clinton at the Phoenix Airport as I was leaving and he spoke to myself and my husband on the plane.
Um our conversation was uh a great deal about his grandchildren.
Uh it was primarily social and about our travels.
He mentioned the golf he played in Phoenix.
All right, that was uh Loretta Lynch describing the half-hour meeting in Bill Clinton's plane on a tarmac in Phoenix, Arizona.
Now, what's interesting about this that even somebody like David Axelrod, who ran the Obama campaign, uh said that it's foolish given the investigation in the Hillary Clinton's private email server.
And of course he's a former senior advisor to Obama.
And uh Axaraz said, well, I take Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton at their word that their conversation in Phoenix didn't touch on email gate in the probe, but it was foolish to create such optics.
Senator John Cornyn, Senate Majority Whip, also noted a potential conflict of interest, tweeting that Lynch must avoid even the appearance of conflict.
Anyway, Donald Trump has spoken out, and he is ripping into this, and some are saying, wait a minute, this is now too close to the vest.
She may have to recuse herself when in fact the investigation into the email server scandal is uh ultimately ended.
Let's see what happens here.
Anyway, joining us now is Jay Seculow, chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice.
Uh Danielle McLaughlin is an attorney, constitutional expert, co-wrote the Federalist Society, how conservatives took back took the law back from liberals.
Welcome both of you.
Hey, Sean.
Thank you, Sean.
All right.
Now, knowing that James Comey has said repeatedly that this is a criminal investigation, and that whatever he finds in terms of his investigation will eventually be sent to Loretta Lynch.
How inappropriate is it for the husband of the person being investigated to sit on a plane in a tarmac alone with her?
It's unethical.
It violates 28 Code of Federal Regulation 45.2, which prohibits the DOJ employee, including the attorney general, from participating in a criminal investigation or prosecution, if he or she is reason or has a personal or political relationship with any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is subject of the investigation or prosecution.
So she violates 28 CFR 45.2 from the moment they met on Monday or Tuesday in that airplane to now.
She can't do it.
So she has to recuse herself.
If she doesn't, she's violating the canon of ethics.
And frankly, Sean, we're going to file the complaint with the professional responsibility section of the Department of Justice.
And this is also a I think a significant matter right now.
What about as a matter of law?
Yeah.
No, I think she's disqualified.
Not I think she is disqualified because of that rule.
Because of 28452.
It prohibits a DOJ employee from being involved in it.
That's the ethical standard, but it pro the action is it prohibits her from being involved.
She is done with this case.
She frankly should probably go a lot more than that.
She she is completely, completely cast a shadow and taint on this investigation that is irreplaceable and uh not redeemable at this point.
But then they're not exactly people that follow the law.
I mean, for example, the Supreme Court just upheld the a lower court decision than the president as it relates to uh his unconstitutional illegal actions, executive order on amnesty, and the president basically said he's not gonna abide by the court decision.
Yeah, and he of course he doesn't have that option.
But let me say something else here, Sean.
Bill Clinton is a calculating guy.
Think about this for a moment.
He gets off of his airplane, finds out Loretta Lynch is coming in, then get arranges to go onto her airplane, and they let's say they just discuss personal matters, just family.
The Ministry of Presence, his presence there sends volumes.
Did they shake?
Did they hug?
Did they what it the discussion is almost irrelevant?
What is relevant is he was able to do that.
And that Loretta Lynch agreed to let him do that.
Upsurd.
She can't be the attorney general for the start.
Well, I want to ask you the question.
Do you think this was done by design?
Maybe he got tipped off that Loretta Lynch was inclined to move forward if there's a criminal referral and he was worried about it and he wanted somebody else appointed to the case.
I uh our team today discussed that very fact because Bill Clinton is smart, he's calculating, and he looks for results.
And just walking on that plane may well have sent that message or established it, or maybe he created the fall person for this prosecution, so to speak, and that becomes the attorney general.
Sean, I'd like to jump in here.
And you know what?
I'm completely in agreement with you, Jay.
This was completely inappropriate.
I'm a Democrat, right?
But the optics, the decision, the lapse of judgment here on both sides is inappropriate.
And as a Democrat, I don't want any more clouds over this investigation.
I want the appearance of objectivity.
I mean, I want an objective investigation.
So I don't think Bill Clinton was calculating because this is bad for Hillary.
This is another scandal that is blowing up.
I agree that uh liter Loretta Lynch should recuse herself from this investigation, because we want what you want, and that's an objective investigation.
All right.
So you know that but go ahead, John.
No, you go ahead.
Well, I was gonna say, I mean, here's the thing, though.
He is a guy that weighs the here are the consequences if I do actions, here's the action.
He is this is a guy that's made his entire political career, his political life has been weighing things.
This was he didn't walk on that plane, he did not walk on that plane not thinking about the consequence.
And what what's so outrageous here, it's not just the appearance of the impropriety, it's the message as you just said, the message that it sends.
But this is a guy that spent his life weighing the consequences of actions.
And here he made that, he took that action.
She is the dem presumptive democratic nominee, and I'll take it a step further.
Sean, Bill Clinton may well be a witness or who knows a defendant in any action that were to rise out of the Clinton Foundation or the email investigation.
Either one.
So Loretta Lynch laps a judgment's an understatement, but Bill Clinton's a calculating guy.
And that's my my statement.
Now, Bill Clinton did appoint her, Loretta Lynch as the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York.
So is it a political favor?
But again, the optics, forget the optics.
I mean, I I get the optics.
It's the matter of fact, it violates the law.
You're prohibited under DOJ's own guidelines from being the lawyer on that case.
Loretta Lynch is not a particularly uh political person.
You know, you think about a Giuliani perhaps or a Chris Christie, as far as federal reports.
She's not a political.
How can you say she's not a political person?
She met with Bill Clinton on her airplane.
Her long history of service.
I'm not gonna besmit her and I think she made a bad call, but her long history demonstration says she's not particularly political.
I think it was a bad call, but this doesn't mean that she's a terrible person or a calculator.
I'm not saying she's a terrible person.
I know I'm not saying she's calculating.
I'm saying Bill Clinton's calculating.
And let me tell you something.
A bad call.
A bad call.
If this was a baseball game, okay, a bad call.
You know, you the umpire can be this isn't a bad call.
This is an investigation, a criminal investigation that is going on that includes the former Secretary of State who's the presumptive Democratic nominee for president, and Bill Clinton goes on an airplane, the DOJ airplane, with the attorney general who's supposed to be in charge of this, that's more than a bad call, it's more than bad optics.
It's not legal under the the DOJ's own rules and regulations.
I just like how does this even benefit Bill Clinton by blowing up?
Because if he's concerned that she may pull the trigger on an investigation, if James Comey's office, the FBI recommends a criminal referral and he's worried that somehow she might end up going forward with it.
Well then what do you do?
Get her off the case.
I don't have any evidence of that, by the way.
I'm just saying the the atmospherics point to something else here, because this is a guy that is successfully made his life one way or another, but based on calculations.
Danielle, what's your response to that?
I mean, I think you're I think you're reaching Jay, and as you've said you have no evidence of this.
Um there's no reason to believe that if she was to recuse herself, but wait a minute, wait, wait, wait.
But they're all smart people, yeah.
Wait a minute.
He knows his wife's under investigation.
He knows James Comey has clarified it's a criminal investigation.
So he knows that Loretta Lynch is gonna eventually be involved in this case.
So he's not stupid.
You can say a lot of things about him.
I mean, maybe maybe he's irresponsible, reckless, but he's not stupid.
So it seems to me that this was a conscious choice on his part, and and I don't know if we'll ever really know the reasons, but there may be some fear in the back of his mind about Loretta Lynch that she may not go along and play ball, and if Comey recommends a criminal uh and referral, she's gonna uh convene a grand jury for crying out loud.
Well, could you imagine could you imagine, Sean, if that happened?
I mean, let's just take what you just said.
Let's say that the criminal re reference comes from the FBI, and now Loretta Lynch says I'm not gonna proceed.
Now, does anybody, including Democrats, I know you're a Democrat, does anybody believe that in light of this, that that is going to be something that leaves not just a bad taste in everyone's mouth, but shows a complete callous disregard for our system of justice.
No one, if the FBI were to move forward and Loretta Lynch says no, after this nonsense on an airplane in Arizona, no one is gonna believe that there's not something corrupt going on in here.
She has to recuse herself.
I'm with you a hundred percent.
She has to recuse herself of the city.
Well, she's saying she doesn't have sensible.
But she's saying she doesn't.
She said it was just a conversation among friends, which by the way, is exactly what is the reason you do have to recuse yourself when you do that.
All right, let me ask why is this investigation taking so long?
Can anyone put this together?
Uh-huh.
Because you've got to believe, I mean, from everything I've heard from everybody that knows Comey and his past actions, even going to the hospital room of John Ashcroft and threatening to resign on principle when George Bush was president.
Yep.
Uh he knows that there's a political timeline in play here.
Now we've told we've had as many as fifty to some odds uh agents working on this case.
They apparently recovered the 33,000 deleted emails.
I know the investigation, according to our reports at Fox, have now gone even further into the Clinton Foundation.
But at some point, if there's evidence of wrongdoing and law breaking, and I believe there is, doesn't he have to pay attention to the political clock for the benefit of the country?
He doesn't, because the FBI has to operate outside of political consequences or political time frames.
And what you've got right now, I believe, Sean, which is what you've been saying.
So if he finds the information the week of the Democratic convention, he's gonna come out that week with a criminal referral, potentially.
If if I believe I've no James Comey, I believe that if he has, if his agents put together a case, he reviews that case and determines that it is adequate to prosecute, that there is he is not gonna operate under a timetable of whether there's a DNC convention or not.
What he will do, I believe, is if there is evidence, he will present that to the attorney general, who now has to disqualify herself, recuse herself, uh, for prosecution.
Let me take it a step further here.
And this is, I think, something we have to underscore.
There is also, and I think part of the time frame here, Sean, is this started out just about an email and a server, and it's broadened.
We know that.
It's now there's the questions about the Clinton Foundation.
So we don't know the scope of the FBI's inquiry, but it it's it's significant.
When I worked with Treasury as a lawyer treasury, when we put together these criminal cases for DOJ, it was extensive and they were long time frames.
So I think they're looking at a lot of information here.
They're gonna take the evidence where it leads.
But you know, Loretta Lynch has said that this is uh she's not gonna interfere negatively with this, but she did.
So, you know, I'm I'm with no I'm not trying to do besmirch her as a person, but you talk you're calling it a lack of judgment.
I'm saying it's unethical conduct.
I'm gonna jump in here and I you know I I agree that these prosecutions do take their time.
I've been involved with them on the defense side.
I know that you've been involved in them on the prosecutorial side.
And that's a comment.
You know, Carmie's a stand-up guy, as you say, Ashcroft standing up for the NSA surveillance, standing up for the Fourth Amendment.
Going back to your suggestion that Clinton did this on purpose.
Even if you get rid of Loretta Lynch, somebody who comes and stands in her shoes still has the FBI to answer to or to at least discuss this with the vast majority of and the bulk of the evidence that they've collected so far.
So the idea that getting rid somehow of Loretta Lynch changes the outcome of the investigation.
I think it's a little bit of a stretch.
So then what do we think?
She went in there, they talked about their grandkids, and they talked about where he's traveling and play golf uh with the white while his wife's under investigation, and he said we're all good, right?
They thank you very much and leaves the defense.
That's what she said.
He hasn't commented.
And we have no reason to believe that she's a few.
Oh, I want first of all, she only commented because she got caught.
I mean, that's the reason she commented.
She got caught because it it we we talked about this today.
This is as if they're acting as if there is no one that in in the world of media we live in that now none of this would come out.
And and Bill Clinton, he hasn't said anything.
Why would he?
What does he have to say?
He's not a current office holder.
She is.
She's the chief law enforcement officer of the United States.
Shame on her.
Danielle, are you gonna answer that?
I mean, I I I think that I'm I'm not on an enormous amount of disagreement.
I think that this was a huge mistake.
I do not think that this was something calculated by Bill Clinton because I do not think it actually serves his purposes.
I think that she should recuse herself.
And as I said, it's a Democrat.
This is the last thing that people who believe that the process should go forward in the way that processes should, without political interference, without any of these other things that we've seen.
I want that to be clean.
And this is not clean, and I'm angry about it, frankly.
Well, you should be angry about it because as a Democrat, you should this is it's embarrassing.
But let me tell you something else.
This is the same attorney general who ten days ago said, you know how you defeat terrorism with love.
Okay.
So, you know, I'm not sure.
Does that bother?
Yeah, that bothers me.
Bothers me.
We have very we clearly have different opinions about the use of language as it relates to terrorism.
They're not going to be able to do that.
Do you think love it?
Do you think you think loving ISIS is the answer to the love.
I think what she means was loving each other.
The idea that intolerance breeds this kind of radicalization, and you've there been study after study.
The idea that we should be open to people of all different stripes, all different religions, and not separate people out on the basis of who they are, what they stand for.
Well, hey, hold it.
That's a wonderful statement, except she was speaking in Orlando where there was a mass uh terrorist attack with 49 dead Americans.
I don't care.
It's irrelevant.
They're dead Americans.
And the fact of the matter is, that wasn't to cut you know, w we're not we're tolerant.
Here's the problem.
The jihadists aren't.
I mean, that's the problem.
And this is again, this is the administration narrative.
All right.
I got uh Jay, I think you're gonna join us on TV tonight about this.
Uh we'll see you then, Danielle.
Thank you.
As we head into the Fourth of July weekend for me.
Uh does anybody even know what the Fourth of July stands for?
Declaration of independence.
From who?
Yes, people, most people don't know.
It's frightening.
I know everybody in this audience knows, but anyway, Kent in uh Kent Terry is in Michigan.
Kent, how are you?
And uh welcome to the program.
How are you, sir?
Good.
I'm doing good, Sean.
What's going on?
Now you are know all about Operation uh Fast and Furious.
Why don't you tell us what you know?
I know you're Brian Terry's brother and you lost your brother in this, and uh we talked to you and still no answers about why our government would give guns to criminals and and cartels and gangsters and mobsters the way they did, and it ended up killing your brother, which once again we're so sorry about.
It's unbelievable to me.
Your brother did not need to die.
The guns were provided by his government.
Unbelievable.
You know, Sean, uh that was a sens senseless death on uh our government's uh uh watch there.
But the main reason I'm calling in is because uh uh one of these weapons were found at the Paris attack in twenty fifteen.
Uh that linked back to uh which attack was that?
Which attack?
The Paris attack.
One of one of the one of the fast and furious guns were found in the Paris attack.
Yes, it was on the judicial watch uh uh media thing yesterday.
You know, I hadn't even seen this.
Uh, you're talking about the reporter investigation, the ROI filed a case by uh a a case agent in the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms.
They tracked the gun in Paris attacks to the Phoenix gun owner who sold it illegally off the books.
Judicial watch law enforcement sources confirm.
So not only did we give these guns to kidnappers, drug dealers, cartels, uh, but now they're selling the guns here legally that our government provided, and they're used in the Paris attack, but they want to take away the guns of law abiding citizens.
Exactly.
You know, I don't I I I you know I don't I don't know how I would deal with what you've had to go through.
You lose your brother, then you find out the government provided the gun that killed them, and they never put a tracking or GPS device in the gun, which would have been easy to do, and they're so irresponsible.
I don't know if I would ever overcome the degree of betrayal and anger that I know that I would feel.
How do you do it?
Well, you know, you know, I if it wasn't for the gym, Sean, I'll know how to do it, but you know what?
It just angers me when I see more guns show up, just like now.
It's just like what's it gonna take?
What's it gonna take for Congress and Senate to finally act?
I've been telling Grassley, Chafitz, uh Gaudi, uh, Poe, all of them guys for the last three, four years.
It's just a matter of time before these guns show up in a terrorist attack, either this this country or another country.
And they're still not.
And they still don't listen to you, right?
Still don't listen to me.
I mean, I'm not the smartest guy in the in the world, but it it's it's common sense.
These weapons have killed thousands of people between Mexico, over there, and here, mostly in Mexico.
But you know, uh our lives matter, right?
So I mean, why hasn't Congress stepped up and said, hey, we need to take care of this problem and they have it.
I gotta tell you the most disappointing thing in my life right now is the Republican Party.
They are so weak, timid, ineffective, unwilling to put their their battle on the line and go against the Obama agenda.
They've they've now funded his entire last year of his presidency to do more damage because they're afraid of a fight.
They keep telling us they need the house, and then the house and the Senate, and then the promises they make when they get the house they don't keep, then the promises they make when they get the house and Senate they don't keep.
Now they're saying that you know, and I and now they're afraid of Donald Trump because they actually believe Trump will do what he says.
We know what Sean, he's the only one that stepped forward that promised my family answers when you become president.
You know, all these Congress and Senator the last few years promised my mom, promised her.
Even the Liza Cummins promised her, hey, we're we're gonna get accountability for this when we find out and nothing.
It's been five and a half years in nothing.
I want to put you on hold.
I want to invite you to an event.
I can't say publicly what it is yet, but it's the event that I'm doing.
Okay, Linda knows.
And uh stay on the line, okay, Kent.
Okay.
All right, eight hundred nine four one Sean is our toll for your uh telephone number you want to be a part of the program.
Uh all right, let's get to our phones again, as we have Dave is in North Carolina.
What's up, Dave?
How are you?
Glad you called, sir.
Hey, Sean.
Uh I just wanted to call.
I um I've heard you asking Hillary supporters uh for three specific things they've done to better the lives of American people.
Yeah.
Um, Sean, I believe the reason you're not getting a response is because you're asking the wrong question.
I think if you'll flip the coin and ask for three specific things she's done to better the lives of the terrorist around the world, you might get some more answers.
Well, I could say that she gave a help negotiate the deal with the hundred and fifty billion dollars with Iran.
She didn't oppose releasing terrorists at Gitmo.
She hasn't supported border security.
She supported giving the former Muslim Brotherhood head, Mohammed Morsi, tanks in F-16, so there's a there's four examples I can keep going if you like.
Yeah, and Benghazi as well.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
You know, it's not funny because people are dying.
You know, it's unbelievable.
I mean, it's it's you know, I I how this woman is even competing in this election says a lot about our fellow Americans and I don't know their susceptibility, let's say, to false promises of government.
All these people believe that they keep their they keep their doctor, keep their plans.
All these people believed in hope and change, and yes, we can, and they chanted and chanted, and they were all excited, and I don't have to worry anymore about paying my mortgage.
And I don't have to worry about my car payment.
And if you help me, I'm gonna help you, and then everything's gonna be okay.
And and if Obama's elected, the world's just gonna be a better place.
People bought into that.
And now what do we have?
Millions more Americans in poverty on food stamps on the unemployment line out of the labor force.
I never thought this day would ever happen.
I don't have to worry about putting gas in my car.
I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage.
You know, if I have gas, you're gonna help me.
I don't have to work, I don't have to worry about putting gas in my car or paying my mortgage.
Obama's gonna handle it.
How could people be so naive?
Keep your doctor, keep your plan saved $2,500 per family per year.
Never happened.
He's uniquely qualified because he went to a Muslim school in Jakarta to bridge the gap between the Western and Muslim world.
Well, how did that work out in Egypt and Iraq and Syria?
How did that work out for Israel?
Had that work out for everybody in the Middle East.
Had that work out for the rest of the world.
How does that Russian reset working?
Wake Forest, North Carolina.
Kenny is standing by.
Kenny, how are you?
Glad you called, sir.
I'm doing well, Sean.
Hope you're having a good day.
I'm having a great day.
Thank you.
Good.
Hey, I wanted to bring up um some things you guys are talking about for the end of the day yesterday about the Radio Hall of Fame.
Um realize, you know, that, you know, hey, your your co-host and your friends are around you, and they are happy for you.
And they're not.
I don't have can I just correct?
Can I just correct the record?
I don't have a co-host.
You know, I have breaking news now.
I this is the Sean Hannity show.
Now I occasionally allow members of my staff on the air, and occasionally they defy the people I refer to.
And occasionally they defy my my I won't say order, my uh mandate not to be on the air, and they push things that I don't want to push, which annoys me, but you know, I still love everybody here, and I'm a good boss, and I don't fire anybody, I'm incapable of firing bad people.
Yeah, you know, my point is, you know, you see those guys, you know, they're they're doing these things for you and you're they're promoting you.
I know, but I but if I keep saying I don't want to be promoted, by the way, I'm incapable of firing good people overall.
I look at their entire record, not the fact that what, but no, just stop because every time I said don't put on the microphone, you absolutely you're insubordinate.
You just do it anyway.
Put your mic on now.
Do I have permission to speak?
You have permission to speak.
This is the s person you're the labeling my co-host, my executive producer.
Thank you, Kenny.
I I'm so glad that people in our audience appreciate the love we have for Sean because he is such a great boss and such a good talk show host.
Thank you.
And really has the ability to talk about things that even our own elected officials won't talk about, which is kind of sad since we pay them with our tax dollars.
But you we listen to willingly, and that's why we want you to be inducted into the Hall of Fame, which I really hope you will because I know a lot of people texted Hannity to 36500.
That's Hannity to the Foundation.
Oh, I thought it was all over today.
I think today's Today's the last day.
Oh, I don't so we don't ever have to hear it again.
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