Sean Hannity Show - Focus on Terrorism - 7.1

July 1, 2016 - Sean Hannity Show

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Focus on Terrorism - 7.1

With Sean celebrating the holiday weekend, the show focuses on President Obama's response to growing terrorist threats and what our future looks like under a Clinton Administration might look like. The Sean Hannity Show is live Monday through Friday from 3pm - 6pm ET on iHeart Radio and Hannity.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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	I'm pleased to hear that the Senate will hold votes on preventing individuals with possible terrorist ties from buying guns, including assault weapons.
	I truly hope that Senators rise to the moment and do the right thing.
	I hope that senators who voted no on background checks after New Town have a change of heart.
	And then I hope the House does the right thing and helps end the plague of violence that these weapons of war inflict on so many young lives.
	I've said this before.
	We can't wipe away hatred and evil from every heart in this world.
	But we can stop some tragedies.
	We can save some lives.
	We can reduce the impact of a terrorist attack if we're smart.
	And if we don't act, we will keep seeing more massacres like this.
	Because we'll be choosing to allow them to happen.
	We will have said we don't care enough to do something about it.
	Here in Orlando, we are reminded not only of our obligations as a country to be resolute against terrorism.
	We are reminded not only of the need for us to implement smarter policies to prevent mass shootings.
	This camera focusing on all the audience because every now and then, every time we have a conference, every time we invite a speaker, they always can come with the same accusations.
	This speaker supports death penalty for homosexuals.
	This speaker supports death penalty for this crime or this crime or that he is homophobic, they subjugate women, etc.
	etc.
	etc.
	It's the same old stuff coming all the time.
	And we always try to tell them, I always try to tell them that look, it's not that speaker that we're inviting who has these extreme radical views, as you say.
	These are general views that every Muslim actually has.
	Every Muslim believes in these things.
	Just because they're not telling you about it, or just because they're not out there in the media doesn't mean they don't believe in them.
	So I will ask you, everyone in the room, how many of you are normal Muslims?
	You're not extremists, you're not radical.
	This is normal Sunni Muslims.
	Please raise your hands.
	Everybody, Masha'Allah.
	SubhanAllah.
	Okay, take down your hands again.
	How many of you agree that men and women should sit separate?
	Please raise your hands.
	Everyone agree.
	Everyone agree.
	Brothers and sisters, subhanAllah.
	So it's not just this radical shachstan.
	Allahu Akbar.
	Next question.
	How many of you agree that the punishments described in the Quran and the Sunnah?
	Whether it is death, whether it is stoning for adultery, whatever it is, if it is from Allah and His Messenger, that is the best punishment ever possible for humankind.
	And that is what we should apply in the world.
	Well, who agrees with that?
	Allahu Akbar.
	Are you all the radical extremists?
	SubhanAllah.
	So all of you are saying that you are common Muslims.
	You all go to the different massages, Norway.
	Or is it are you like a specific sect like the Islam that sect or anything like that?
	Are you like that?
	No.
	Is it are you like that?
	Please raise your hand if you like this extreme Islam that sect or anything like that.
	No one.
	Allahu Akbar.
	How many of you just go to this normal m massaj in Norway?
	The normal Sunni must.
	Please raise your hands.
	Allah Akbar.
	Allahu Akbar.
	Allahu Akbar.
	Yeah, many here, it's it's normal, right?
	This isn't right.
	You're not a radical if you don't think men and women should uh sit separately.
	It Allah Akbar.
	It's it's normal for every Muslim to believe that adultery should be punished by stoning to death.
	Gays should be executed if they are gay.
	You know, that this applies world round.
	We're not radical Muslims.
	Allah Akbar.
	Allah Akbar.
	This guy is Fahad Kharishi is his name, is an Islamic speaker telling the audience that the death penalty to gays and lesbians and subjugation of women are not views held by extremist Muslims, but no, not at all.
	But by regular, moderate, every single Muslim agrees.
	And that's the tape right there for your own ears to hear.
	Now, it does kind of highlight a lot of what I have been focused on lately, and that is okay, Hillary Clinton takes money from Saudi Arabia, $25 million for the Clinton Foundation, $10 million for the Clinton Library.
	Women are told how to dress, they can't drive, they need permission to go to work or to school, marital rape not recognized.
	Uh if you're homosexual, you can get the death penalty.
	And by the way, uh don't build a temple or a church in Saudi Arabia that is illegal.
	She took money, she never criticized them.
	Millions and millions of dollars.
	Similar story in Kuwait, the UAE, Brunei, Qatar, Oma, Algeria, and on and on and on, including, by the way, the government of Brunei.
	All took money from them.
	You know, ninety-four Americans now have been killed by radical Islamists on American soil since nine eleven.
	Our Department of Homeland Security forbids the use of the term jihad and sharia.
	It's too disrespectful.
	Uh should we focus in on the fact well our Homeland Security Secretary says, well, right wingers pose the exact same threat as radical Islamists?
	Should we think about the fact that the U.S. has resettled nearly three quarters of a million migrants from countries that execute gay people?
	How do we know they want to assimilate?
	How do we know that they want a better life for themselves, a life of freedom?
	And while we're at it, why did the president give guns to uh uh gangsters and and drug dealers and cartels and kidnappers through Operation Fast and Furious?
	Why did the president release known terrorists from Gitmo?
	We know at least 40% have gone back to the battlefield.
	Why did the president give a hundred and fifty billion dollars to the number one state sponsor of terror?
	That would be Iran.
	By the way, Hillary was a part of all this.
	Part of Fast and Furious, part of Gitmo detainees being released, part of the Iranian uh deal that was negotiated while she was Secretary of State.
	She was Secretary of State when Obama gave Mohammed Morsi when he became president of Egypt after the Arab Spring.
	Uh she was all part of the idea, a guy that referred to the Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs.
	Well, he got tanks and F-16s and a billion and a half U.S. dollars.
	Now, earlier in the week, I started a discussion on this program that I think we need to get into m more depth and detail on.
	And we had on the program a whistleblower by the name of Philip Haney, founding member of the Department of Homeland Security.
	And I was so impressed, but also so frightened and and and frankly disgusted by what he told us that I I think we need to spend more time on this, and that is that he was ordered after Obama became president to scrub the names of Muslims that have ties to radical groups by his superiors.
	Remember, he's a founding member of the Department of Homeland Security.
	It's designed to keep us safe.
	And that prevents us from connecting the dots.
	Meaning, you know, if somebody is associated with a mosque or a group of people and his name's in a database, well, that might prevent uh a tragedy or a terrorist attack and save your life.
	Anyway, he's back with us today, as well as Rich Higgins, who is the vice president, intelligence, national security programs, former manager of the Department of Defense, combating terrorism, technical support office, and irregular warfare support program.
	Uh welcome both of you uh to the program.
	Philip, welcome back.
	Thank you very much.
	I appreciate it.
	All right, I laid a foundation here.
	Um I want to start with you're a founding member of the Department of Homeland Security.
	This was created in what, 2003 in response to 911, correct?
	Correct.
	March 2003.
	Mm-hmm.
	So you're a founding Member.
	Now, in the course of your years working there, how many total years did you work there?
	Twelve.
	I retired honorably in July 31st, 2015.
	I didn't ask you why.
	Was there a reason why you retired early?
	Well, after nine investigations, I thought it might be time to uh change my career.
	I was old enough, I was sixty-two, so I took advantage of the fortuitous opportunity and retired at sixty-two.
	But you had had gov other government service before that.
	Mm-hmm.
	Fifteen years total service.
	Okay.
	So as a founding member, okay, you began the process of putting together suspected terrorists in our homeland in the for the purpose of protecting the American people.
	That's you went to work with that responsibility every day.
	Well, that was the mandate of our f founding that was our founding mandate to protect America from terrorism and from terrorist threats.
	We all received a certificate as founding members from our first secretary, Tom Ridge, nicely signed, framable document, very simple mandate.
	Protect America from terrorism.
	That was it.
	Okay.
	And and you took your job, uh I think now having interviewed you twice, once on radio, once on TV, you you took your job, your responsibility very, very seriously.
	Well, I maintained that if a man takes or a woman takes the oath of office as a person of integrity with their right hand raised, there's something that they can never do after that, and that's use that same right hand to cover their face and pretend that they don't see what's happening right in front of them.
	And I was determined absolutely not to ignore what I saw right in front of me.
	Okay.
	Now, in the course of that period of time, you were uh a very integral part of building a database of people connected to groups that might want to hurt Americans in our homeland.
	Is that a fair statement?
	Oh, it's very fair.
	I I focused my first organization that I focused on was the Muslim Brotherhood Network in the United States.
	The second major group that I worked on was a large group out of the Asian subcontinent, meaning Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, called Pabli Gijamat, which is essentially an equivalent to the Muslim Brotherhood, but they grow up in a slightly different culture.
	They speak Urdu and Pashtun instead of Arabic.
	But other than that, very, very similar.
	They're like two large branches on a big tree.
	And I chose the I worked on those particular groups the entire time in my career.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	And in the course of your career, when Sam Bernardino happened, and you finally became a whistleblower, I know you work with Congressman Louis Gomert and some other people.
	Um you were told in 2009 when Obama became president, something changed in terms of your job description, and you believe that because of this that incidents maybe like Orlando and San Bernardino could have been prevented had it not changed.
	Is that a fair statement?
	Sure, there's two components in law enforcement that are essential.
	And if you don't have them both working together, you can never build a case to probable cause.
	The first major component is the individual.
	The other major component is the organization.
	In order to build a case to probable cause, you have to be able to tie the individual to the organizations.
	So obviously, you have to know a lot about the organizations.
	You simultaneously have to know about a lot about the individuals that are affiliated with those organizations.
	That's what we call connecting the dots.
	And that was a specialty.
	In other words, it's connecting the dots is key because if you have the right database and you've you've built out the database over a period of years and you connect certain people to certain places to certain mosques to certain organizations that are connected to terror organizations, you have a you have a fighting chance to prevent a terrorist attack from happening.
	Did do you know of any case, and I've never asked you this before.
	Do you know of any case where you did prevent a terror attack based on the good work that you did?
	What I can tell you is that I had multiple hundreds of law enforcement actions based on my cases that prevented people from coming into the country.
	That I can tell you with certainty.
	And I think I don't want I don't want you to just gloss over that.
	In other words, because of Your uh you know, you you you you remind me of the the kid in school that's the smartest kid in class, and I always was envious of that kid.
	You know, you had the information, you'd bring it to law enforcement, preventing people from coming in here that probably had the intention of killing people.
	Is that fair?
	Well, I'll tell you I was commended by the National Targeting Center for finding three hundred terrorists.
	They put it in writing the letter that I was received when I was during my time of duty at National Targeting Center is in the back of the book.
	See something say nothing.
	Because I understand that people may have a hard time actually believing what I'm saying.
	So I tried to address that to remedy and put the letter in the back of the book, and it says right there, I received credit for finding 300 terrorists.
	And I'd like to ask the question how many terrorists were involved in the Orlando, maybe one or two, maybe.
	How many in San Bernardino?
	Two, maybe three.
	How about Chattanooga?
	One.
	How about Fort Hood?
	One.
	How about Boston Bombing?
	Two, maybe three.
	I was given credit for finding three hundred of them.
	I I I not only are you smart, but you're humble.
	All right, when we come back, I want to get into what happened and what changed in two thousand and nine.
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	We have Philippine, founding member of the Department of Homeland Security, also Rich Hagg Higgins, Vice President, intelligence, national security programs, former manager with the Department of Defense, combating terrorism, technical support office, and irregular warfare support program.
	All right, Philip, I want you to finish your story.
	So your job is to connect the dots.
	Your job is to find terrorists.
	You're credited with with finding over three hundred terrorists that want to commit harm on our homeland.
	Founding member, Department of Homeland Security.
	Now 2009 comes, and you are given an edict.
	You are given an order.
	What is it?
	Put it in context.
	We have to keep in mind that this was a year after the conclusion of the largest terrorism trial in American history, the Holy Land Foundation trial.
	A hundred and two convictions of five individuals connected to the Muslim Brotherhood for support of Hamas.
	That's the case, by the way, the group CARE was an unindicted co-conspirator.
	I want to just interrupt you.
	What do you think of that group CARE?
	CARE was founded by members of Hamas here in the United States.
	That's an irrefutably proven fact.
	History does not change that fact.
	Political correctness might try to.
	Statements in the media might attempt to.
	But the fact is it's proven.
	You don't trust.
	I know what they really believe.
	That's my specialty.
	The Muslim Brotherhood.
	What then let me ask before I finish this, you're raising too many good questions here.
	The Muslim Brotherhood, it was formally headed up in the Middle East by a guy made by the name of Mohammed Morsi, wasn't it?
	Yeah.
	And Mohammed Morsi became the prejud president of Egypt after the Arab Spring, correct?
	There's several individuals.
	They're called Supreme Guides, yes, but they're top of the organization.
	And when he became the head of of Egypt, the president of Egypt, Obama and Hillary Clinton gave him F-16s and tanks and weapons.
	Were they given that and money?
	Were they giving that to a terrorist, the guy that once referred to the Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs?
	Well, let's look at their motto.
	We don't I don't have to surmise.
	I just say what their motto says.
	The dying for the Fisa Bil Allah and the cause of Allah is their highest aspiration, and that the Quran is their constitution, and that Mohammed is their prophet.
	Their other part of their motto says whyuda, which is derived from Quran Hixty, and it means prepare to terrify them with weapons of war.
	That's right in their icon of their motto.
	And this administration insists that these people are moderate.
	So this is a very important thing to do.
	Yeah, though no, that I'm I'm so glad you say this, but I I have to be fair to Rich Higgins here.
	Uh before I get back to Philip, Rich, tell me your experience and and relate it to what Philip is just saying here.
	Well, I think the most important point to note is that Phil is not alone in uh what happened to him.
	Uh we saw across the national security apparatus in two thousand eleven a directed purge uh out of Department of Defense, the intelligence community, uh the law enforcement community, the Department of Justice, the State Department, as well as Homeland Security where Phil was.
	And uh right now what we're seeing is the uh catastrophic consequences of that.
	Um you say a purge, you mean scrubbing the names that people like Phil and yourself accumulated since the founding of the Department of Homeland Security and maybe even prior.
	I I think it's more holistic than that, Sean.
	I think it's more uh more uh dangerous than that because what they're actually scrubbing is any references to the Islamic doctrine that would allow us to divine who is or is not actually one of our enemies.
	So when somebody says they're a Muslim brother or a member of one of these other subversive groups, you know, we we today in the United States still don't have the Muslim Brotherhood classified as a threat organization.
	They're operating with impunity right now today.
	Uh we saw Muslim Brotherhood affiliated personnel on TV at the response to the Orlando massacre.
	You know, from from inside the system, uh the same.
	But again, I want to just give a timeline here.
	This all changed when Obama became president.
	This is an Obama dictate.
	Uh the way the way I describe it to people is during the Bush administration, immediately following nine eleven, we would have uh I'll call them brotherhood affiliated, and I'll put affiliated in quotes personnel, maybe at the table or influencing decisions.
	During the Obama administration, they seemed to be making the decisions.
	Wait a minute.
	You're saying to me that people that had sympathy for radicals were making homeland security decisions?
	Uh I'm saying that when you look at the deliberate decision making process of the United States government as it relates to radical Islam, that deliberate decision making process is controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood.
	And the way they control it is by pro prohibiting US national security personnel from ever developing an understanding to the level that Phil has it.
	And the point would be to hand this back to you, Phil.
	Phil, where did you learn what you know about Islam and Muslim Brotherhood?
	It started on the ground when I worked in the Middle East as an entomologist.
	I would deliberately live away from the normal terrorist areas, not terrorist tourist areas, and study the language and culture there on the ground, and then I worked with people who are in the field, farmers.
	I studied Quranic Arabic, language, culture, so when nine eleven came, it wasn't theoretical for me.
	I'd already seen it up close and personal.
	And so I went right at it.
	Can I ask you both this question?
	To what extent?
	We always struggle with the the distinction between radical Islamists and Muslims, and people that are peaceful and want to pursue their religion.
	I've read the Quran, I understand the literal interpretation.
	Based on your experience, Phil, and I ask you, Rich the same question.
	Phil first, uh, what percentage do you believe of Muslims in the Middle East are radicalized?
	I'd like to address it in a slightly different way.
	The imp the way to ask the question is what percentage of Muslims believe in Sharia law.
	Okay, the the nomenclature is a very important thing.
	By the way, I love what I'm totally I I love when I'm totally corrected by a much smarter guest on the subject and ask my question for me.
	Go ahead, you ask the question and answer it.
	Go ahead.
	The gravitational force of the global Islamic movement is not radicalization.
	The gravitational force of the global Islamic movement is implementation of Sharia law.
	And the attempts to do that are tactical.
	And some of those tactical event uh uh attempts or some of those tactics are identified arbitrarily as radical, but it's actually all part of a bigger effort to make Sharia law implemented everywhere on the face of the earth.
	And there is a spectrum of tactics.
	Some are calm, persuasive, other ones are violent, and we call them radical, but it's actually all the same gravitational force.
	It just depends on how close to the gravity you are.
	And what you're describing though is so when Hillary takes money from all these countries that practice Sharia law, she's really taking it from a group of people that want to influence the government of the United States of America, and they're buying their they're at least buying her silence at the very least.
	Is that a fair statement?
	Well, one of the things I learned that I was active duty doing vetting of Saudi students coming in on what we call F one student visas is that their primary purpose for being here in the United States was not to get a degree.
	It was to promote Islam.
	And they were reminded of that in every class, every group that came in every year at the Muslim Student Association groups around the country, the different organizations.
	Remember why you're here is to promote and represent Islam in the United States of America.
	But the gold is a worldwide dominating caliphate with Sharia law as the law of the world.
	Yes, it's in Quran two, verse 190 through 193.
	That is the most concise explanation of the global strategic and tactical reasons goals of the of Islam that you'll find anywhere in the Quran.
	It tells you exactly what they intend to do and how they intend to go about it in three or four very concise verses, Quran two, one ninety through one ninety-three.
	Rich, do you agree with that assessment?
	I agree with that assessment, and to bring it back to the point earlier about uh you know the United States being put to work fulfilling the objectives of the Brotherhood, you know, the Brotherhood was killed en masse by Saddam Hussein.
	We removed him.
	Qaddafi killed the Muslim Brotherhood.
	We removed him.
	We asked Mubar to go.
	Ben Ali Saleh.
	It we are their instrument because they control our deliberate decision making process.
	And then in reaction to the terrorist attacks here, which I'm not sure the Muslim Brotherhood wants to actually have happened here, I think they'd much rather see us uh sort of passively managed rather than awoken like we are right now, and people again for the the past week at least have had their attention on this.
	We see the left in the United States doing the job of our enemy.
	The left the left is the the tool they're using to have thought and speech control.
	Let me let me ask a broader question.
	We watched the Islamization of Europe.
	Even Great Britain has eighty-eight separate Sharia courts.
	Uh we see the influx of refugees.
	We know in this country our top intelligence officials are warning that refugees will be infiltrated by ISIS and other terrorist groups, but yet the President Hillary Clinton insist anyway.
	My question is, is Europe gone, Philip?
	Is Europe in in the process of changing dramatically?
	And has it been Islamised, if you will?
	Well, let's just put it in the perspective of history.
	These kind of things have happened before over the course of the 1400 years that Islam has existed.
	There was a time when they swept all the way across North Africa and conquered every single country we know of today in North Africa, then crossed into Europe, across the Straits of Gibraltar in the year 7 Eleven, and they were only stopped by Charles Martell at the Battle of Tours in 732, exactly 100 years after Mohammed died, way back over there in Saudi Arabia.
	So he's seen these precedents before.
	Then historical events like the siege of Vienna twice, the fall of Istanbul or the fall of Constant Constantinople 500 years ago, and the barbaric pirate slave trading operation that went on for a thousand years in the Mediterranean basin.
	That's when America encountered jihad, when they encountered slave traders in the Mediterranean.
	That's why they built a ship called the USS Constitution to essentially defend the Constitution of the United States.
	And that's why the Marine Corps song from the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli has that in there.
	The USS Constitution sailed into the Mediterranean and openly confronted the Barbary Pirates and bombarded their fortress in Tripoli and repatriated a crew of men from a ship called the Philadelphia.
	That's history.
	And we've seen this over and over and over again through time.
	Most of it never came up on our radar.
	And we're not going to be able to do that.
	I hate to interrupt your thought process?
	Do you believe that this that they will be that this is now growing into a force that is at a magnitude of force that is so great that there is a coming worldwide battle over this advancing caliphate?
	Is in other words, are we able to stop it, nip it in the bud, or is it inevitable now that there's going this is not going to end well?
	We have a strong defense.
	We have a solid foundation to stand on if we will avail ourselves of it.
	It's called the U.S. Constitution.
	The geniuses, our founding fathers created a checks and balance form of government that's was designed to protect us from lawless or unilateral decisions that are being made now here in our country vis-a-vis foreign and domestic counterterrorism policy.
	What we need is a political revival to go back to the U.S. Constitution and begin implementing the provisions that were built into that constitution to protect us from these kind of threat.
	This is the first and foremost obligation of the U.S. government, protect its citizens from threat, both foreign and domestic.
	And I can also tell you that if we don't address it voluntarily with courage and conviction now, we're going to be can addressing it involuntarily, and that we're going to be in a much greater disadvantage than we already are right now.
	But no, I don't know.
	I am going to I am gonna tell Donald Trump about both of you and get this tape to him.
	Uh Rich, I want to give you the last 45 seconds we have.
	I know I spent a little more time on Phil today, but not by design, uh, but I want you to give your final thoughts here.
	Sean, I was learning as much as you are.
	The man's brilliant.
	Uh I I just think it's really important to understand that every time one of these attacks happens in the United States, you see the left in unison with the Muslim Brotherhood immediately respond with direct attacks on the first and second amendment.
	That is not by accident.
	And we're going to continue to see that.
	And I think the the American people need to be aware of that.
	They need to see it as it's happening, and they need to call their politicians on it.
	Uh last thing is I think as we move forward on the Europe question.
	Uh I've watched uh for the past 20 years as Europe has slipped lowly circling the drain.
	Uh I think they're not going to escape uh without a major conflagration of some sort, whether that's a revolution, counter-revolution, the far-right movement, it's not going to be pretty.
	And I'll just leave that as my assessment for now.
	All right, I want to thank you both.
	You both are real American heroes to me.
	I thank you for all the work you did and the courage in speaking out.
	Um I'm sure you've taken a lot of heat for it.
	I know you have, and uh, we are not going to end this discussion here.
	We will continue it because I think it's imperative that people fully understand exactly the nature of the threat that you're both describing and fought against for all these years.
	Thank you both.
	Hey, Sean, thank you.
	Uh I'll continue to tell the truth campaign.
	Thank you very much.
	Appreciate it.
	Phil, you're you're listening I would be best friends with you in school because you're the smartest kid in the class, and I would want to I'd want to copy on your paper.
	Uh but seriously, you were I re I really wouldn't.
	I just asked you to help me study, that's all.
	Well that I would do I know you would.
	All right, thank you for all you've done.
	We're gonna be in touch.
	Thank you.
	The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting.
	And when it comes to defending your family, what does it say to you when I, a veteran Navy SEAL, someone who trains on every conceivable fire on platform, as well as trains in hand-to-hand combatives, someone who's more prepared for and capable in a fire fight than almost every American alive, turns to the AR-15 to defend my family.
	Choosing to defend your home with an AR-15 is a common sense choice that tens of millions of Americans are making.
	And our neighborhoods and communities are safer for it.
	Let's run through some of the latest attacks and see how banning so-called assault weapons would have turned out.
	California already bans assault weapons.
	That didn't stop San Bernardino.
	No ban on ARs or any guns would have stopped the Boston Marathon bombing.
	ISIS's well-coordinated attack in France wasn't deterred by the country's strict gun control laws.
	Brussels gun ban did nothing to stop terrorists from killing.
	But every single one of those tragedies ended with police officers carrying AR-15s rushing to the scene as fast as possible.
	Hillary's solution to stopping terror attacks is to ban the very gun that stops terror attacks.
	And she calls that common sense.
	Why would you want to ban the gun that you pray for police to show up with?
	Here's a common sense solution to stopping Islamic terror.
	Law-abiding citizens prepared to deal with the imminent threats we face.
	Hillary Clinton's prepared.
	She knows ARs are a powerful defense against radical Islamic terrorists.
	That's why she's been surrounded by guards armed with them for the past three decades.
	AR-15 is a fine for Hillary and her family.
	But average Americans who watch the news and feel genuine fear for their safety and their family's safety, she wants to deny them the level of protection she insists upon herself.
	And it will be voted on on Monday to close the so-called gun show loophole.
	Um would that have done anything to stop the massacre in Orlando?
	So it it it may yeah, it may have in the sense that if you partner it together with a bill that stops terrorists, but wait a minute, he he didn't buy those guns at a at a at a gun show.
	And he would have passed the background, he did pass a background check.
	He did pass a background check, but if the Feinstein bill was in effect, he the FBI could have put him on the list of those who are prohibited from getting guns.
	And what if he went into the gun store and was denied?
	Then he could have just gone online or to a gun show.
	Okay, but bought another one.
	So what I'm trying to get at is we hear every time there is one of these terrible tragedies.
	There's these proposals.
	Your proposal would have done nothing in the case of Orlando.
	It would have done nothing to stop the the killing in San Bernardino.
	And in fact, was uh is unrelated to the killing in in in Newtown.
	So so why I mean why I mean wh why are we focusing on things that have nothing to do with the massacres that we are responding to?
	Well, so first of all, we can't get into that trap.
	I disagree.
	I think if the this proposal had been into effect, it may have stopped this shooting.
	But we can't get into the trap in which we uh are forced to defend the proposal simply because it didn't stop the last tragedy.
	We should be made less full of Swiss cheese holes so that future killings don't happen.
	That trap is an impossible one.
	All right, that was Chris Murphy, Democratic Senator before that, Tom Rosso, a veteran Navy SEAL.
	He joins us now along with John Lop, president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, author of the forthcoming book, The War on Guns, and uh they're both here to tell us how frightening an unarmed America would be if we ever come under real attack.
	I keep bringing up the examples.
	If you're in San Bernardino, if you're in Orlando, Florida, and the the Pulse Nightclub, and somebody starts shooting, do you want a license carry permit trained person there to take care of it?
	The answer for me is yes.
	That's why I have I've had a license to carry in Rhode Island, California, Alabama, Georgia, and New York, and I've carried it more than my uh more than half my adult life.
	Anyway, research concluded that uh thirteen types of of gun control laws have been looked into, right?
	To carry laws were the only type that made a difference in terms of the rate and severity of these mass public shootings.
	And uh anyway, laws like those that the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against last week when it determined California citizens did not have the right to protect themselves in public with concealed guns.
	The open carry of guns is already illegal in California.
	And Obama said, Well, some believe that having more guns makes us all safer.
	Well, I'd feel safer knowing that if a bad person, evil that is a radical Islamist wants to kill as many people as possible, and he's on a shooting rampage, I'd feel better knowing somebody is there to stop them.
	Anyway, joining us Dom Rosso, John Lott, welcome both of you to the program.
	How's it going, guys?
	What's going on?
	It's great to be on.
	It's good to talk to people that are shoulder to shoulder about educating people, and you know, obviously just listening to what we're talking about, knowing these laws that are in place aren't doing anything, and now we're talking about adding new ones.
	You know, the the frustrating thing is that we educate ourselves, we do research painstakingly.
	You know, John, I know you've done uh some amazing research to get real facts out there, and it's almost like how are we putting this together to communicate?
	You know, what's the package and what what do we need to say to people to get the facts out there?
	It's because when when something happens and everybody knew jerk reaction, even that soundbite you just played, when people think that there's going to be a small percentage of a chance that we're going to make an improvement when so many things will suffer because of it, and they can't see that.
	So it's just a a constant forging of our communication and how we're getting the stuff out there.
	So I'm glad to be on with you guys and being able to discuss that.
	John Lott, there's nobody that knows and understands gun statistics better than you.
	You have made this your life's work.
	Uh forty states allow concealed handguns, for example, in a bar.
	You sent this number to me last week, and you also talk a lot about why terrorists target gun-free zones.
	So let's find out what do you you know, why don't you tell people the truth of your research?
	Right.
	I mean, one of the things that's disappointing and so much debate is people talk about possibilities of things that might go wrong.
	So if you listen to the Sunday talk shows, they were saying, Well, how can you possibly allow people with concealed carry permits to go into places like a nightclub?
	Well, we don't have to guess about what happens.
	We can look to see what actually happens.
	These people are incredibly law abiding.
	And many of the states are not allowed to drink if they go in there.
	It's kind of like a designated driver, but in other ones it's a crime for them to get drunk.
	But the problem is you can look and you can see there's no problems that occur.
	If they had these problems, they would point them out.
	I've studied them.
	You just don't see these types of bad events where a permit holder gets drunk and they do something bad there.
	It's hard to find any other group in the population that's anywhere near as law abiding.
	The thing that's most disappointing to me in this entire debate is that we have all these laws that are being talked about that we know wouldn't do anything.
	The Senate votes today.
	Nobody believes, I think, that any of these four bills are going to be voted on would have stopped any of the mass public shootings, not just during the Obama administration, but over the last couple decades.
	The one thing that we know would work is exactly what you were referring to earlier, and that is trying to deal with these gun-free zones.
	Time after time.
	It's just not the Orlando case.
	But if you look since at least nineteen fifty, with just three exceptions, all these mass public shootings keep on occurring in places where we're not allowing the victims to be able to go and defend themselves.
	And you and the thing is, it's just not the frequency there.
	We have the statements over and over again from these killers about them trying to find those venues where they know they can kill people without opposition.
	Because they know the sooner that somebody can bring a gun to the scene, the sooner they'll be stopped.
	So just a couple months ago we had a case in Detroit where a father uh was concerned that his son was getting too involved in ISIS and had called up the FBI.
	The FBI put a tap on his phone, and they had this amazing transcript where he's explaining to somebody why he's targeting one of the largest churches in the Detroit area.
	And he gave two reasons.
	One, huge congregation, lots of possible victims.
	And two, he had checked and he knew that that church did not allow parishioners to have permanent concealed handguns with them at the church.
	And so he knew that he would be able to have easy targets for a while before the police were able to arrive.
	And and whether it's the Charleston Church shooting from last year or the diary that was released last year from the Aurora Batman movie theater or the Santa Barbara shooting or others, you see the same type of explicit discussion about avoiding places where people with guns might be able to stop these killers.
	I just can't believe uh that the president, when he made the comments last week, he said, Some here believe that having more guns makes us all safer.
	He says we wouldn't have these pub mass public shootings if that were true.
	I mean I mean think about this.
	Here's a president.
	Now he gave guns to cartels, to drug dealers, to kidnappers in Operation Fast and Furious.
	He never put GPS tracking devices on any of those guns, which they could have done.
	We know that that border agent Brian Terry was uh died as a result, and many others on both sides of the border died as a result.
	This is the president that released all these gitmo terrorists.
	We now know at least 40 percent of them go right back to committing acts of terror.
	We know this is the same president and Hillary Clinton at the time negotiating giving a hundred and fifty billion dollars to the number one state sponsor of terror, Iran.
	You know, so I'm I'm looking at their actions.
	They gave Mohammed Morsi, the former head of the Muslim Brotherhood after the Arab Spring when he was president of Egypt, they gave him gave him tanks and F-16s and a billion and a half taxpayer dollars.
	So, you know, they don't want us to have a pistol.
	They don't want us to have a gun and the ability to defend ourselves and add to that they are all defended to the hilt by armed people.
	The president's comment makes no sense.
	I mean, it's it doesn't do you any good to have a gun at home if you can't use it to defend yourself when you're in public.
	So the number of guns isn't the issue.
	The the point is is that these killers you may be able to have a permanent concealed handgun virtually any place in a lot of these right-to-carry states, but these killers pick time after time those tiny areas within the state where people aren't allowed to go and defend themselves.
	These guys aren't stupid.
	They know what they want to try to do, even the ones that you could classify as insane are still, you know, six months or two years that they plant take planning these attacks.
	But you know the debate is ch changing a little bit.
	When somebody like the former head of uh Interpol, uh Ron Noble, who was there for fifteen years, has come out and said, look, when he started Interpol's kind of like Europe's version of the FBI, when he started doing that, he he was a big gun control proponent.
	And he thought, well, if we only ban guns from certain areas, they'll keep us safe.
	But what he said he learned over those 15 years is that no matter how hard you try, these terrorists will find some way of getting a gun into these safe zones.
	Absolutely.
	And that rather than making people safe, what you end up doing is just disarming the victims and making it easier for these killers to go the do the attack, because the police have an incredibly difficult job in stopping these mass public shootings.
	Our hearts should go out to them and we should thank them.
	But they having a person in uniform guarding a possible target just means that they're going to be the first person killed.
	And the question is, what's the backup there?
	You know, these killers have huge strategic advantages when they go and attack a place because they determine the time and the place.
	It's impossible for somebody to be on their toes all the time from all possible angles.
	And they they can either kill the person, wait for them to leave, or go and choose some other target.
	And if we simply don't have the resources to have police cover all possible targets all the time.
	Yeah, jo John's absolutely right.
	And you know, part of the thing is that I was in the Navy for twelve years.
	I went my main purpose was to chase bad guys.
	So, you know, coming out of that, getting back home, and then seeing all this unfold over the last few years, it was uh my kind of mind boggling to me to think that since when have we flipped the switch to give up the accountability of our own safety.
	And again and again we talk about how the main thing that we're doing is when something happens, regardless of what it is, we are asking people to respond with the appropriate tools.
	And we don't know that that's always that's not even an obligation for most law enforcement to show up and take care of the problem.
	So why are we not taking that accountability for us seriously?
	My whole thing is when I got out, I started studying people.
	I started studying civilians, the average person that really cares about protecting themselves and their family.
	Every single day I'm teaching people to be more capable, more aware, and there's so many people out there that take this stuff uh as their number one priority because it we don't know when it's gonna happen.
	The percentage is small, but if it does happen, it could be life-threatening.
	And there's no there's no mistake, this administration has absolutely failed to keep people safe.
	They this the gun control, everything they're talking about about legislation and laws, it's all been a distraction to avoid taking care of the very real problem that presents itself every single day.
	And it's brewing and it's going to continue to brew.
	And John, when you said that these guys are smart, you're absolutely correct.
	These guys are determined, they're smart, and they're gonna figure it out.
	If it's not a gun, it's gonna be something else.
	It's gonna be a bus, a truck, a plane.
	It doesn't matter.
	They will figure out to cause terror.
	And so for us taking accountability for our safety and our responsibility as citizens to make sure people are prepared to handle it if it does rear its head.
	All right, why can't this administration focus on what the real problem is?
	And the real problem is radical Islamic terrorism.
	They released the transcripts of what happened in Orlando, but they keep out the shooters' uh commitment to ISIS, his pledge to ISIS.
	Uh they keep out radical Islam.
	And it started very early in the administration.
	Hillary, Obama, man caused disasters, overseas contingencies, workplace violence, and on and on.
	Why can't they do that?
	Well, uh, as you know, Sean, I knew Obama at the University of Chicago.
	We both overlapped there for about five years.
	And uh I think the bottom line here seems to be don't let a crisis go to waste.
	And and in this case, uh Obama since the time I knew him, it doesn't believe people should be able to own guns.
	And a lot of these background checks, even though they don't do anything to stop these terrorists from getting these guns, are not gonna stop crime generally.
	They're costly.
	So in January, when uh Obama did this town hall on CNN, and he was asked by this woman who had been brutally raped for three and a half hours why it was that he wanted to make it costly for law abiding Americans to get guns.
	He claimed he didn't.
	All right, I gotta I only for Yeah, I've I've got to run, but I mean, it's amazing how they pivot everything.
	And he does it within hours of any shooting.
	He doesn't even want to know the facts.
	You know, don't don't let a crisis go to waste, as Rama Manuel said, but I gotta run.
	Thank you both.
	I'm Ami Horowitz, and I'm here in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
	The terrorists who struck Orlando claimed allegiance to ISIS.
	So clearly, Islam played a role in his thinking.
	Right?
	Does Islam play a role in those times?
	Uh, no.
	Not at all.
	I don't think it had much to do with this to be honest.
	I think it was another situation of lonely sound.
	You would say it's unfair to to say the Islam can roll it.
	I don't think it's fair to say Islam played a role in this.
	But I don't think it was an Islamic crime.
	So you think I do this.
	I don't think it was a terrorist.
	People are not evil.
	This is ignorance.
	Republicans or Islam.
	I think I have to put it more on the Republicans than Islam.
	100% the Republicans.
	Guns, Republicans, Islam.
	Guns way more than Islam.
	Way more.
	And if you're gonna blame Islam, you're gonna blame all the religions.
	You can find the yoga community.
	Yes, you can find researchers.
	Radical yoga people.
	I don't think that's Islam is necessary behind the people.
	Islam as a whole is a very peaceful like religious very peaceful people.
	Democracies in the Middle East, which have more women rights than we do here in the US, right?
	More women like Really?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, just as peaceful as any other religion.
	Christianity from certain kinds of level?
	What was the last kind of Christian attack you could think of?
	Maybe like Jesus or Christianity?
	Uh-huh.
	I can't really think of anything.
	Crusades?
	Crusades, yeah.
	But I mean, again, I was 15 minutes a long time ago, but it's pretty good.
	We are so screwed.
	We really are people that dumb.
	Twenty-five now until the top of the hour.
	Happy Friday.
	Final half hour Sean Hannity show, and joining us that was Ami Horowitz heading to the streets of Williamsburg in Brooklyn, New York, asking all the hipsters that live there what they thought about the attacks in Orlando.
	Of course, it's Republicans' fault.
	It's Donald Trump's fault.
	It's the guns' fault.
	How could they be so wrong?
	He joins us along with DC McAllister, a political commentator, writer for conservative review, and uh by the way, herself studied theology in uh seminary and worked as a Christian apologist.
	I never knew that about you until recently.
	How are you?
	I'm doing well.
	Thanks for having me.
	Are you really that smart?
	Am I outmatched here and outgunned?
	I went to a seminary for and I had to study Latin and theology.
	I'm I think I'm outgunned though.
	Oh, you might be a little bit.
	Just a little bit, though.
	Uh all right.
	Uh Ami, so tell us.
	So you go into Williamsburg, you do your thing.
	I mean, we've got to point out to the audience because there are people all over the country saying, God help us, are people really that dumb?
	And the answer is yes, but this is New York, and this is a very liberal state, and that's a very liberal part of the state, correct?
	Absolutely.
	But but but I God, you cannot Sean, you can't call them stupid or dumb.
	They're neither of those things, okay?
	It's a it's a pathology.
	It's you know, and I'm so sick and tired of the incessant pathological need for the left to rehabilitate the the image of Islam.
	Right?
	And it's pathological, Sean, because Islam stands against everything the left stands for.
	Right?
	I mean, and they have this weird, bizarre need to try to normalize and make normative Islam and Islamic belief.
	And I'm sick of I'm so jacked up, Sean.
	I had to cut down my expresses today.
	I'm so pissed off about this.
	Alright, but here here's what I don't understand.
	Okay, and I'll throw this to DC.
	DC, I'm looking at Hillary Clinton.
	I'm I've turned this into a political issue.
	And I keep going back to this because I'm shocked there's not outrage.
	She she claims the mantle of being a champion of women's rights, gay rights, lesbian rights, bisexual rights, transsexual rights, and and religious freedom, and yet you cannot build the temple a church in Saudi Arabia.
	Women m are told what to wear, whether they can dr they can't drive, whether they can even leave the house and they've got to leave with a with a male relative if they do leave.
	Gays and lesbians, well, that act is punishable by death, and she takes twenty-five million dollars from them, ten more million for the Clinton Library.
	Similar story with countries like Kuwait, the UAE, uh Brunei, uh Qatar, Oman, Algeria, etc.
	It goes on and on.
	And she somehow has sold us this notion, oh, Republicans are guilty Of a war on women because Mitt Romney carried around women's resumes for crying out loud, or Donald Trump thinks a woman is attractive and said so.
	It's ridiculous.
	We have the binders full of women, right?
	Well, instead of ignoring the Islam, they bind women.
	I mean, this is you you're not the one who made this political with her.
	She made this political, and the left is making this political.
	And it's because they see the greater threat to their power coming from Republicans than they do Islamist.
	And it's ridiculous because they don't.
	But let me let me help me understand that.
	Because here I am a conservative, and for years on this program, I have been talking about uh gays being executed under Sharia.
	For years I've talked about women being treated horribly under Sharia, and in that same period of time, the great champion of of gay lesbian and women's rights, Hillary, is taking millions from these countries and saying nothing about life and oppression under the for for these groups under Sharia.
	That's because she only cares cares about her own power.
	I mean, that's happening overseas.
	That's out of sight, out of mind for them.
	It does her no good to advance her own agenda by going after them.
	It does everything for her own agenda to delegitimize the right to delegitimize conservatives and Republicans because they're the ones who are threatening her power here.
	And so and and people just aren't thinking about what's actually going on in these other countries and how it is being brought here onto our soil until this happened to our Orlando, and even now people are saying, you know, this wasn't just about Islam, this wasn't even about Islam.
	But yet targeting gays is very much a part of Islam, and it's in our faces, and now we're still living in denial and left.
	I mean, would it would it have been any different if this guy in Orlando, if there were a group of women out, uh just women only dancing, uh, which is forbidden, or maybe mixing with men and and they don't like that either under Sharia?
	I mean, it seems to me just as likely a possible scenario, correct?
	Exactly.
	I think he cased different places.
	I mean, he had different ideas for different places.
	He settled on this one, probably because of his own self-loathing, as we're finding out.
	Uh, you know, so yeah, it's it doesn't matter what the target is.
	If you're an infidel, you're an infidel.
	And that's what people need to understand.
	We're all in this together against a common enemy.
	And we're not seeing that, and so we're not seeing the enemy and actually doing what we need to do to connect the dots and realize what's motivating these people.
	But you got you guys are missing the point.
	The point of what these people are trying to do is they're trying to express the ultimate view, which is cultural relativity, right?
	You are a racist if you say that our culture, our way of thought and living is superior to theirs.
	Despite the fact that every statistic in the world never mind, you know, women it's not about women gays and women.
	I mean, when when the San Bordino killers who did the exact same thing they did, uh uh uh McTeam did Pledge Allegiance to ISIS, he didn't kill uh wasn't targeting gays or women, he was targeting his co-workers.
	It doesn't make a difference.
	it doesn't make a difference yeah i agree that the really good point that is about relative them you know it's just about all relative there are no absolute right and wrong there's no good and evil and so on no one wants to call evil out And that's the same thing.
	Do you know since you know, since our Orlando, we've already taken in nearly five hundred Syrian refugees.
	And by the way, yesterday our CIA director joined our FBI director, our assistant FBI director, our national director of intelligence, uh, our House Homeland Security Chairman, and our former special envoy to defeat ISIS, who all warned that ISIS will infiltrate that refugee population, and the president and Hillary Clinton want to gamble with the lives of Americans.
	I said last night on TV.
	You know, we're gonna report sooner or later that one of these refugees goes on a spree and kills people.
	And I said, if that happens after the warnings that were ignored by the president and Hillary, they will have blood on their hands.
	Hillary wants to bring in five hundred times more than Obama's willing to bring in.
	It's already happened in Europe.
	I mean, why are we closing our eyes together?
	Belgium, Paris.
	Exactly.
	I mean, how can we be surprised?
	The Pew poll did did uh Pugh did a poll uh across across the Islamic world earlier this year.
	Forty percent of the Islamic world, forty percent would not condemn ISIS.
	Okay?
	We're not talking about a radical see that's that's the the well, we have to put the the lie we have to put to bed.
	That it's a simply a small, small.
	Is it because they're but wait a minute.
	Is it because they're afraid to be labeled an apostate penalty for apostasism being death?
	No, this is not this is not something that they were uh uh uh singing at the rooftops of a private poll done by Pew.
	Okay?
	We're talking about a significant percent of the population which hold radical beliefs.
	Okay, forget the 40 percent.
	The majority of the Islamic world, according to an ADL poll, is anti-Semitic.
	Do you want these kind of thoughts brought into our country?
	I don't, and Europe is seeing the the result of that today.
	They don't and people don't understand that there is no line of separation between the church or the mosque and the political realm.
	What is religious uh in Islam is political.
	It may not always be violent, but it's political, and so they want transformation of those around them, and that means us, because we are not Islamic, so we need to convert or we need to die.
	Or we could be uh demi second class citizens or pay a hefty fine like Christianity.
	Exactly.
	We have higher taxes in the Islamic world.
	Right.
	Yeah, you get you get three choices in in the Middle East.
	You can die, you can convert, or you can pay a whole lot to the mob and stay alive, but you can't talk about your faith.
	But in the Sean, you said I was listening, I was listening to your tape and listening to the stupidity of the answers.
	You you reject stupidity, but I think there's a lot of ignorance.
	I mean, I really do.
	I I I you think it's pathological.
	I think it's indoctrination, pathological, and stupidity all combined, and I think the left doesn't want to think, and and they certainly uh they're they're more concerned about how they're viewed in the through the prism or the lens of of is this acceptable thought, political correctness, etc.
	But you know, the great irony in all of this, and it's I've been pointing out to my audience is you're dealing with people in the case of Obama and Hillary that were responsible for giving guns.
	Remember, they're blaming guns, but giving guns to gangsters and drug cartels and kidnappers and not putting any tracking devices on it vis-a-vis Fast and Furious.
	You know, it started during Hillary's term as Secretary of State, the negotiations at the time with Ahmadinejad, a hundred and fifty billion to Iran, and they spin their centrifuges and they can build missile defense, and it continued with Gitmo releasing terrorists back into the battlefield,
	and it continued also with the Muslim Brotherhood, uh and Mohammed Morsi, a former head of the Brotherhood that once referred to Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs, you know, and they're worried about me and my my Glock 40 that I carry every day.
	It's ridiculous.
	They misunderstand the problem, obviously.
	Listen, if if this guy didn't have and I didn't put this in the video, but I asked the same question.
	If this guy didn't have a gun, do you think he wouldn't have used a bomb?
	Last time I checked, the Boston bombers used a bomb.
	The the the sh the uh shoe bomber used a bomb.
	The underwear bomber used a bomb.
	If they don't access the guns, that's fine.
	They'll use knives, box cutters, bombs, whatever they have at their disposal, but this is the refusal of the left to see the reality of the world as it is today.
	You know, the president said, DC, that, well, you know, you know, the the right, their answer is they hope somebody in there has a gun too.
	And I'm like, well, if I'm in San Bernardino, if I'm in pulse nightclub, not that I'm a big nightclub person at my old age, but if I was there, uh, or if I would and I didn't didn't have a gun, I would hope a good person did.
	Because that person can save lives.
	Now, if I am there, uh I'm not only trained in the use of martial arts and and weaponry and guns, I do blade and and gun training and disarmament, disarmament of people, but you know, I would be able to stop when that guy stopped to reload or check his Twitter account or text his wife.
	I would have been able to step in and maybe prevent further death.
	We should be able to protect ourselves, and they're focusing on the very thing that we need to protect ourselves instead of what they need to be focusing on is the ideology that's driving this rat this terrorism.
	And I agree with you.
	I mean, if I were in the nightclub, I'd even want want to be near someone who has a gun or have a gun myself.
	I want to be able to protect myself because you don't know what to do.
	I think more women need to get armed.
	I really do.
	I think women you and I'm not saying go out and go buy a gun.
	I'm saying go out and get trained in the use of a firearm.
	I've been a marksman since I'm eleven.
	And and now that I've been doing martial arts nearly five years, ask Ami.
	I put him in a headlock, and I was gonna choke him out the other day when he was in the studio, he was a little shocked.
	He did, it was awesome.
	Sean, not everybody is a superhero like you, and Not everybody has the kung fu grip, use their hands as a deadly weapon.
	But I'll tell you this the truth is, if you really think about it, being anti-gun and trying to keep guns out of the hands of law buying civilians is anti-feminist.
	Because the reality is women have if a woman is facing down a thug with a knife, okay.
	Not every not every woman could could could react the same way you can.
	But they need a gun to equalize it.
	The truth is, you're anti-woman if you're not pro-gun for law abiding civilians.
	I just asked liberals, what what do you do if someone breaks into your house?
	Well, I'm gonna call the police.
	You're you're dead.
	You're done.
	It's over.
	Go ahead.
	Last word, DC.
	I was gonna say, I mean, yes, I agree with you.
	I women are weak compared to men.
	It's a myth to think that we're not, and we need to be able to defend ourselves.
	But we also need our government to do the right thing and be able to identify our enemy and do what it can to stop them.
	Instead of playing in games and political games and just focusing on guns and silliness, they need to t start looking at the enemy and targeting them.
	All right, D.C. McAllister, Ami Horowitz, thank you both.
	Have a great weekend.
	We appreciate your time.
	The Hillary Clinton foreign policy has cost America thousands of lives and trillions and trillions of dollars, and unleashed ISIS across the world.
	No Secretary of State has been more wrong more often and in more places than Hillary Clinton.
	Her decision spread death, destruction, and terrorism everywhere she touched.
	Among the victims of our late ambassador, Chris Stevens.
	I mean, she what she did with him was absolutely horrible.
	He was left helpless to die as Hillary Clinton soundly slept in her bed.
	That's right.
	When the phone rang, as per commercial, at three o'clock in the morning, Hillary Clinton was sleeping.
	Ambassador Stevens and his staff in Libya made hundreds and hundreds of requests for security.
	They were desperate.
	They needed help.
	Hillary Clinton's State Department refused them all.
	She started the war that put them in Libya, denied him the security he asked for, then left him there to die.
	To cover her tracks, Hillary lied about the video being the cause of death.
	The famous video.
	Another Hillary lie.
	Here's what one of the victims' mother had to say.
	I want the whole world to know it.
	She lied to my face.
	And you know, this person cannot be president.
	She cannot be president.
	All right, of course, that was Donald Trump earlier today given a powerful speech, attacking Hillary Clinton, laying out a comparative vision for the future of America, and uh had some very tough lines there.
	He's talking about Pat Smith, the the mother of Sean Smith.
	Remember, Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith and and Ty Woods and Glenn Doherty died that night, and Hillary was nowhere to be found.
	Remember, there had been repeated requests for security that was denied.
	And then during the attack, we had on uh our good friend Tanto Peranto this week.
	He was one of the heroes in Benghazi, and he said, in fact, they were given a stand down order, told not to go over and help those people uh at the consulate.
	They went anyway, and that's where Ty Woods and Glenn Daugherty lost their lives, and then we will lie to later, where she said it was related to a YouTube video, and it was a spontaneous demonstration where people just spontaneously pulled out of their pockets RPGs that they were firing at the compound.
	Anyway, here to go over the speech is Eric Trump.
	He's the son of uh Donald Trump.
	And uh, sir, welcome back to the program.
	How are you?
	Hey, Sean.
	Great being with you as always.
	You know, this was um one of the things that I see happening in the campaign is that your dad now is really seems to be spending a lot of time uh preparing and really giving pointed attacks against Hillary, and more importantly, I think too, is laying out his vision on how the country can grow and that we don't have to have ninety-five million Americans out of work and fifty million in poverty and forty-six million on food stamps.
	So is something changed?
	Listen, I think you're 100% right.
	I mean, first of all, I was sitting in front row today, and I I was so proud of him.
	I mean, we were leaving there today, and just the crowds and crowds of people, I mean, clapping, cheering with signs.
	I mean, it was just uh it was an amazing site.
	I mean, it's really, really amazing site, and I have no doubt in my mind that he's gonna win this thing after you know seeing what he did today.
	I mean, he was just uh he was perfect.
	I mean, it was it was spotless.
	But you know, I I think he picked apart her record and every aspect of her record, and and quite frankly, it's a disaster.
	I mean, you were just talking about Benghazi, obviously, and you know, Mark Geist, one of the survivors, uh, he's the one that you know had his arm, you know, very badly wounded, if you've seen the movie, etc.
	But you know, these guys have become friends, and I mean the notion that you could leave such courageous people up on a roof to die.
	Uh you could, you know, make up lies about the video about the cartoon, um, you know, that you won't pick up the phone call in the middle of the night.
	Uh I mean, it's just it it's absolutely disgraceful.
	Um, it's not who we need as commander in chief.
	There were major themes though in the speech.
	I I I thought it was particularly powerful on the issue of national security.
	He said her decision spread death destruction, terrorism everywhere she touched.
	And then he got specific.
	And he pointed out in two thousand nine, before Hillary was sworn in, it was a very different world.
	Liber Libya, and this is true, was cooperating with us.
	Qaddafi had had literally said he's he's not gonna go forward with a nuclear program.
	Iraq was seeing a major reduction in violence.
	The surge had worked.
	There's no doubt, there's no dispute there.
	Uh and Syria was under control.
	Iran was being choked by sanctions.
	Egypt did have a friendly regime before the Arab Spring, and and then it ended up that Hillary and Obama gave Mohammed Morsi, who once referred to the Israelis as descendants of apes and pigs and former head of the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization.
	Well, Hillary gave him F sixteens and tanks.
	Sure.
	And a billion and a half US dollars.
	After they gave the Clinton camp you know foundation uh a ton of money.
	And listen, there isn't a single thing.
	You you could have a child flip a uh a coin and it would have been more accurate than her foreign policy.
	I mean, uh over the last you know, ten years, eight, ten years.
	If you look at Iraq, if you look at Libya, if you look at Syria, if you look at Egypt, um, you know, I mean, uh all of these countries, it they're they're worse off given what we've done and how we've done it.
	I mean, it's it's it's really, really sad, and all the while it has cost this nation trillions of dollars, and all the while it's cost this nation, you know, thousands of lives, and you know, aside from those thousands of lives, you know, the ultimate price, it's also caused, you know, thousands of of men and you know women who were wounded in battle and have come back to this country with PTSD um, you know, and other awful ailments, and um, you know, and then they come back and we don't even do a good job taking care of them.
	I mean, that's the true disgrace.
	With the amount of money that we've spent in the Middle East um implementing her failed policies, we could have rebuilt um our entire country.
	And you know, my father was talking about infrastructure day, and I'm so proud that he was, but it's it's true.
	No, it is crumbling.
	There's no doubt about it.
	And not more importantly, look at all the Americans out of work and suffering and median income down and h home ownership rates are down and people and by the way, Sean, he he hit on that so well.
	I mean, he he talks about the impoverished, you know, inner city, you know, kids, um, you know, especially minorities in so many cases, and you know, uh how you know fifty-six percent unemployment in some of these communities, and at the same time, here she wants to let in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees, so we can't even take care of our own, but yet we want to let in people into this country which our intelligence agencies are saying have been infiltrated by you know the enemy.
	I mean, the same type of people who every single committing San Bernardino and and and Orlando and all these other things.
	So we're not willing to take care of our own.
	We're not willing to invest in our country, but yet we're letting everybody else in here.
	I mean, it's it's truly horrendous.
	It is so sad.
	Uh this is the level of incompetence um, you know, that is on the stage to become commander in chief of the United States, and it's gotta stop.
	And and I think he did a great job revealing all of her flaws, uh or s or so many of her flaws.
	Um I mean, he just knocked out the bark.
	It really is mind numbing, isn't it?
	When you have the National Director of Intelligence, the FBI director, the assistant FBI director, the the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, you have the farmer former envoy, special envoy to defeat ISIS, and you have now the CIA director all saying ISIS is gonna infiltrate, just like they did in Belgium and Paris, the refugee population and she wants a five hundred and fifty percent increase in refugees.
	If there's one person, if there's one person in that group of two hundred thousand that could do something like they just did in Orlando, or they've done in Brussels, or they've done in Paris or any of these other places.
	If there's one person, you cannot let them in.
	And you know, his message today, Sean, so much of his message was America first.
	You know, when are we gonna start taking care of our own?
	When are we gonna start taking care of our vets?
	When are we gonna start taking care of our military and our infrastructure and our educational system, which is thirtieth in the world?
	I mean, when are we gonna start you know putting American jobs first?
	Our wages have been stagnant for so long.
	You know, And and and yet these proposals are on the table and it's really sickening to my father.
	And you know, listen, I've I've said this to you a hundred times.
	He doesn't need this job.
	All right, he doesn't need this job.
	We have an amazing company, we have an amazing family, we do the best deals around the world and around the country.
	You know, he's doing this, and he self-funded his campaign thus far because he's fed up of the nonsense.
	Um and uh, you know, it's it these are the policies that are bringing down this country.
	And if you look at NAFTA, if you look at TPP, I mean she's in the biggest favor of these, these are stripping our jobs.
	I mean, two thirds of our manufacturing has gone overseas.
	I mean, it it's it's insane.
	I mean, it's we don't make anything, we don't produce anything, we don't have jobs anymore.
	I mean I want to get to that in a second, but I want to stay on ISIS.
	Do you you know this really frustrates me, and I know your dad actually I had your dad on at the time and we argued about the Iraq war, which I supported and he was against, but I did agree with him strongly that if we do it, we need to take the oil.
	In other words, let them pay for their own liberation, and more importantly, you know, if Americans lose their legs and their arms and they lose a husband and a son, they deserve to be compensated at the very least, and we treat our as your dad often says, we treat our vets horribly.
	But if you look at the vacuum created because Obama and Hillary draw a red line in the stand as it relates to Syria, and then they allowed cities like Mosul and Fallujah and to Crete and and Ramadi to be taken back, it created the vacuum where they could grow and destabilize the entire region and it created an opening for hegemony for a country like Iran to now be the main power in the region, that is beyond destructive.
	It is a total complete destruction of of Middle E of the entire Middle East, the destabilizing of the entire Middle East.
	Listen, there's no question about it, and I think he's been the biggest proponent of taking that oil.
	Listen, if we're gonna go fight somebody else's war, we may as well pay ourselves back for it.
	And he uses kind of his famous example of you know General Patton, you know.
	I mean, General Patton would be rolling in his grave if he saw, you know, what we're doing, and you know, our military wants to do it.
	We have the finest military anywhere in the world, there's just no question about it.
	You know, but the fact that our leaders don't say, hey, listen, guess what?
	Go take the oil.
	Let's pay ourselves, let's pay America back for you know the sacrifices that it's making um to try and create a safer nation for ourselves.
	Let's let's pay ourselves back.
	If we're gonna go, you know, uh build infrastructure in these countries, hospitals, schools, let's at least pay ourselves back for it.
	And it's really baffling that we don't do it, and you know, it's really been one of his uh one of his main points the entire time.
	And it's not only about paying ourselves back, it's also making sure that those profits from from the oil don't go to further fund terror.
	And we know it does.
	And it's amazing.
	If you look at you know, if you listen to John Kerry, when we did the hundred and fifty billion dollar Iran deal, John Kerry came out point blank and said, We know some of that hundred and fifty billion dollars is going to be used against in in the war on terror.
	If one cent of that hundred and fifty billion dollars was gonna be used against the United States, you do not release that money.
	I mean, you simply do not release that money.
	Doesn't this blow your mind?
	So they're worried about Americans having Second Amendment rights, but and I've carried my entire adult life.
	And yet they're the same administration that gave guns to cartels, kidnappers, and drug dealers with Fast and Furious that resulted in the death of uh Brian Terry and other people.
	They're the same people that released Gitmo detainees, terrorists to go back in the battlefield, the same people that gave the number one state sponsor of terror Iran a hundred and fifty billion dollars, and the same people that funded Mohammed Morsey, the former head of the Muslim Brotherhood with tanks and F sixteens, and they're lecturing Americans about their ability to defend themselves and blaming guns and not radical Islam for what happened in Orlando.
	How twisted is that thinking?
	It's such a travesty.
	You know, we we give back five of the worst terrorists, five of the worst terrorists, and we get Burkstall.
	I mean, we get a traitor.
	We we we get a guy who deserted um his team and you know, went over and ended up getting captured.
	Yep.
	And then people went in, and you know, there are parents in this country who don't have a child because they had to go rescue a traitor, and then we trade five terrorists for one person.
	It is such a disgrace.
	And one of the things on you know this un uh you know, under a Trump administration, when he becomes commander in chief and he is, and he's going to win for all the reasons that we're talking about, this nonsense will end.
	I mean the nonsense will simply end.
	One of the things I was glad that your dad took on today was not only Hillary's phony statements like, Oh, I landed under sniper fire.
	Oops, I was tired if your dad did that, or if your dad did a skit with uh with Comrade Bill De Blasio that talked about CP time, we'd never hear the end of it.
	But more importantly, he talked about the inherent corruption and the money that she's made and Bill has made from China and the Saudis and the money given to the Clinton Foundation, the hundred and fifty-three million in speeches to banks and insurance companies and wall street firms and foreign governments, and how they are beholden to all of these people.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, it's amazing.
	When she came out of when she, you know, when they came out of when Bill came out of office in two thousand one, you know, the famous quote was, I am dead broke.
	You know, she said that we are dead broke.
	They were they said they were worth negative five hundred thousand because they had a mortgage of of five hundred thousand dollars, right?
	So now they're worth close to two hundred million dollars.
	They've made a hundred and fifty-one million in the last, you know, roughly seven years, right between between two thousand seven and two thousand fourteen, so nine years, whatever it is.
	What what what were they selling?
	What what goods and services were they selling?
	You know, it's not like a a company like ours where we, you know, build a building, we sell an apartment, and you know, if if you do well and everything works out, you know, you profit off it.
	What what goods and services selling?
	I mean, here she was, she's a governor and employee, she's Secretary of State at the time.
	She's making hundreds of millions of dollars all while being a government employee.
	I mean, tell me that's not a conflict of interest.
	And here you see Saudi Arabia um who's the worst abuser of of women and minorities, um, you know, and and and and gay groups and and everything else.
	I mean, yeah, a w a woman can't go out on the street without being escorted by a man.
	They don't have women's bathrooms in hotel lobbies because I I mean it's unbelievable.
	Here she is taking twenty-five million dollars from Saudi Arabia, you know, and then and then going around and championing you know, women's rights issues.
	It's such hypocrisy.
	It is it is it is silly.
	No, the refreshing change though is is that your dad is unlike past Republican candidates that lost.
	Your dad's a fighter.
	And that's what I saw today.
	I saw somebody willing to lay out, compare and contrast their corrupt record, their failures, and also offer a different gov different governing vision.
	But I've got to run.
	Now you you're also joining us on TV tonight, so uh Eric, we always appreciate your time.
	And uh I thought this this was a transformative week for you guys, and I think it's uh it's gonna be very interesting to watch how Clinton responds to this.
	Yeah, it it's been an amazing week, and I'm proud of him, Sean.
	The whole family's proud of him, and we're gonna uh we're gonna fight um every minute of every day to make sure we win because uh Well, I want somebody to fight for America.
	That's what I'm looking for.
	That's what he's doing.
	That's what he's doing.
	He's doing it for one reason, and that's America.
	Eric Trump, thank you.
	You mentioned somebody, people you didn't see eye to eye with.
	Let's talk about Paul Manafort.
	There has been a lot of discussion.
	I know it's out in the media, but, you know, I think it would be hard for you to say that it's not real, that there was a lot of tension.
	What was the relationship with him?
	When Paul first came in, he was gonna manage the delegate process.
	And then we were fortunate enough to secure enough delegates that we didn't need a delegate manager.
	Since that time, Paul and I have gotten along amazingly well.
	And I know the media doesn't want to report that, but we worked side by side, talked on a daily basis multiple times a day.
	He had his roles, which he was going to oversee in the campaign.
	I had a very separate function, which included making sure that uh Mr. Trump's schedule was accordingly, uh fundraising side of things, right?
	We we divided things accordingly, and we had a great relationship.
	There was no animosity between Paul and I. I know the media doesn't want to report it.
	I mean, forgive me for being skeptical, but it's it it's hard to believe that that it was as sort of rosy and happy as you're describing when there's so much discussion of disfunction.
	That bringing a professional in like Paul helped us grow the campaign.
	And we need ten more of these.
	The campaign needs to continue to grow to be successful.
	So every thing that Paul did for the campaign was one less thing I had to do.
	And I'm thankful for that.
	And he's still there and you're and you're not.
	So it's hard to see this as as uh anything other than you know there's a power struggle and he wants.
	I don't think that's the case.
	Uh you know what I think?
	I think that this campaign's gonna continue to grow.
	I think Donald Trump is going to be the next president of the United States.
	If there's anything I can do to help make that happen, whether that's advice to Paul, advice to Mr. Trump, or advice anywhere along the line, I'll be happy to do that.
	All right, twenty-five till the top of the hour.
	Toll free, our telephone numbers, eight hundred nine four one Sean, if you want to be a part of the program.
	You know, it's amazing that you know, here you have the the former campaign manager for the Trump campaign, Corey Lewandowski say, no, everything's fine, and that just the campaign's moving in a another direction.
	Donald Trump says he was a ten, did a great job.
	We're moving in another direction, and yet the media just can't accept answers even though they are absolutely the same.
	Donald Trump Jr. is with us.
	How are you, sir?
	Hey Sean, how are you?
	Good to be with you.
	You know, isn't that pretty amazing?
	Doesn't that tell a big story about the media throughout this whole campaign that, you know, when both sides say the same thing that they still can't accept it?
	No, I mean, they they they only do that for the left, because again, you know, when ninety-five percent of the media is a surrogate for liberal policies and for the liberal agenda, it just makes it a little bit difficult.
	They have to try to create controversy where one doesn't exist.
	Um, you know, I think they had a good relationship.
	We continue to have a good relationship with Corey.
	You could see that uh if there wasn't, you wouldn't be able to do the things that he's been doing, and we wouldn't be able to say the things that we've been saying.
	It's it's time to grow.
	Corey had never gone on to through a general election like this.
	It's not where he has experience, and you know, Paul's doing that, and he's doing a great job of it.
	But you know, Corey did something historic.
	I mean, he took a candidate with zero political experience, uh, who just is saying what the American people want.
	He's saying what the American people have been saying to themselves for years.
	Uh, you know, they've been bullied and pushed into a corner where they can't actually say those things out loud anymore.
	Uh, but he's been saying that.
	But he took a candidate with no political experience and got them the GOP nomination against sixteen other senators, you know, governors that have experience and have made this their entire lives.
	I mean, that's pretty amazing.
	That says a lot for Corey.
	You know, the media, there was a media research article out yesterday that showed in terms of negative articles about different issues involving the two candidates now, your father, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, that negative media that your father gets four to five to six times as much negative coverage as Hillary Clinton does.
	And there's a lot of issues out there that they could be covering than not covering.
	Uh one major example was the New York Times.
	They tried to do a hit piece on your dad about women, and lo and behold, every woman in the article comes out and says, No, we love Mr. Trump.
	They purposely took our comments out of context, and they all come to your father's defense, but they didn't interview Juanita Broderick, Paula Jones, and Kathleen Willie.
	Um, do you just accept that that's the way this campaign's gonna go?
	Well, you know, unfortunately, I think that's the way that it's gonna go.
	I mean, we when you have, you know, the Washington Post and everything that they've done.
	I mean, it it's basically, you know, Jeff Bezos uh and his liberal friends using it as a pit bull to try to push their policies on other people.
	I mean, the the news today is unfortunately no longer objective.
	They they don't talk about those kind of things.
	The Clintons, because whatever it is that they've established as a you know, their big machine in politics, they'll always be viewed as as these angels despite the years and decades of controversy, of theft of all of the controversies.
	I mean Sean, there's zero statistical probability that you can have that much controversy, that many allegations, all of those things, and it's and and there not be any fire.
	I mean, and it's even more embarrassing that the media doesn't even touch on these things as though they're non-issued.
	If my father did one-tenth of what the Clintons did, you know, by the way, uh what they did while in government, okay, let alone in in the private sector, but what they did while in government, I mean, he'd be in jail for the rest of his life.
	It's it's crazy.
	The general standard is disgusting.
	Yesterday I had on one of the Benghazi heroes, this was a guy that was at the annex, and he and Glenn Daugherty, who ended up giving his life trying to save lives in Benghazi and Ty Woods, and of course we lost Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith.
	And what's so amazing about that is, you know, Ambassador Stevens requested security for months and months and months, dozens of times, because he knew that this area of Libya had become a hotbed for terrorist training.
	The the requests were denied.
	During the attack, this guy sat here yesterday and I had my mouth open as he's explaining that they were told repeatedly not to go help people at the embassy that were under fire.
	And they they literally disobeyed an order and went anyway.
	And then afterwards he says, I'm in Germany and I'm watching, I knew it was a terrorist attack, and I'm watching Hillary and Obama lie to the American people and say that it was uh a spontaneous demonstration gone awry because of a YouTube video, uh as though as though the demonstrators had an RPG in their back pocket, and still today they don't even have that tied up, and we still don't even have a full complete report on it.
	By the way, while while she's simultaneously emailing our family saying, of course it's a terrorist attack.
	I mean, those are the kind of lies I mean, this administration can't even tell the American people the truth.
	It's no different than the FBI editing the transcripts from the Orlando shooting.
	I mean, what we're not big enough, we're not big kids enough that we can't read about I mean we everyone knows it's radical Islam.
	They they can't even say it.
	I mean, this administration, whether it be Obama as president or Hillary Clinton, the secretary, they've been a better administration for the people who hate us, for the people that would love to see us wiped off the face of the earth than to actually serve the people who they're supposed to be serving.
	Um you know, when I wake up in the morning, there's days I feel like I'm taking crazy pills uh with the responses that we're getting.
	I mean they're they're treating I mean the American people like they're the way of dummies.
	Like they're a bunch of two year olds and the lies have to stop.
	I don't believe for a minute as they gave us the quote translation from the Arabic that he said God.
	I guarantee you if they release the tape he said Allah and this is something of course it did but you know but it that doesn't fit the political correct you know and they should be the politically wrong agenda of making this not about radical Islam.
	They would rather use it to try to push gun control.
	They would rather use it to try to make you know the GOP look like they caused this stuff rather than you know you have and we've our immigration policies that have admitted you know that some of these radical people throughout the world.
	So it's not only the people that are here whether they're homegrown, whether they're you know been lucid in immigration from you know generations past, you know, these are people have come to America they take advantage of every opportunity except they never actually assimilate.
	They never really like this country.
	They're all about their own countries but they'll they'll leak you know they'll suck us dry for everything they possibly can and and then they still hate us and they want to kill our people.
	It's Sean I I'll never understand it.
	I mean the fact that we're even having this conversation is an embarrassment but this is the dialogue that we're getting from these people and you know the the lies the deceit and the fact that you know our own administrations are taking better care of people from other countries than the people they were actually elected to serve is ridiculous.
	It really is and when you look at the money if you follow the money and I've been really harping on this now for the last three or four days on radio and TV, you know, I'm bothered that Hillary Clinton took tw up to twenty five million dollars for the Clinton Foundation from Saudi Arabia, uh 10 million dollars for the Clinton library here is a country where if you're gay or lesbian it's punishable by death.
	If you're a woman, men tell you how to dress you can drive gay and woman rights.
	I mean give me a break.
	And that's the double standard that people are sick of Sean.
	That's the kind of nonsense that happens.
	And by the way, when you talk about the Clinton Foundation, no one even knows where that money goes.
	The agencies that rate charities and talk about efficiency and stuff like that, they can't even they can't even tell you where the money goes.
	They don't even know this it's a ninety percent expense ratio.
	It's their slush fund to take care of their friends and cronies the same people that they're going to give you a later on in life.
	So all these countries that treat gays lesbians women atrociously women can't drive they're told how to dress they need permission from men to go to work or to travel marital rape is not even recognized if a woman is raped she needs formal eyewitnesses you can't build a ch a church.
	You can't build a temple in Saudi Arabia so all told up to thirty five million dollars from there.
	Then you got the same thing they took money from Kuwait the UAE they took money from Brunei they took money from Qatar and Oman and they don't she sh they bought her silence she's supposed to be the champion of of religious freedom, gay rights, uh lesbian rights, bisexual rights and and women's rights of course it is Sean but that's what we've seen for thirty years.
	What you think something's going to change with this batch of politicians it's always about buying their silence and everything's great until you know someone writes a big enough check.
	It's precisely why we funded our own campaign.
	It's precisely why we have 70 people to get us to the exact same spot where Hillary Clinton is, but it took her a staff of almost nine hundred people to do that.
	You know, they don't understand you know when it's other people's money it's really easy to blow it.
	It's really easy to spend it.
	It's really easy to waste it and take advantage of those things.
	And that's what they've done.
	These people have never signed a front of a paycheck they're looking at the speech today from Hillary Clinton.
	Yeah I I'm laughing as I'm watching it.
	Someone who's never created a single job in her life other than you know lobbyists talking about job creation.
	I mean it's it's ridiculous.
	Name one job she's created in her life other than you know perhaps a couple jobs at Laureate University where the State Department funded $55 million to a public institution who later then $16 million.
	For profit by the yeah you're right for profit university that then later on made Bill Clinton the chancellor and paid him sixteen million dollars.
	I mean that's called kidding me Sean if I did that's called a kickback.
	That's called the that's illegal in our world yeah.
	Let me I I got to ask you a tough question here and I know this is probably really sensitive but um your father uh had this guy in what was it Vegas who's facing charges now for attempting to grab a police officer's gun allegedly said he wanted to shoot your dad we now have new information out there that in fact, and this has now been reported in in the court documents in the case that he was in the country illegally it overstayed a UK visa and wanted to assassinate your father.
	Big shock right are you at all surprised?
	I mean that's the problem, Sean that you know hey we I'm the son of an immigrant.
	My father's the son of an immigrant.
	There's nothing wrong with immigration.
	But people come into this country, they take advantage of every system we do, because we're schmucks.
	We give every the only people we don't take care of are the good people that serve this country, like our vets.
	The only people we can't take care of are children and their children, because we're saddling with them with debt, and we have the worst education system in the modern world.
	Those are the people we can't take care of.
	But if you come here illegally, if you don't abide by the laws, if you don't pay into the system, we'll give you whatever you want.
	I mean, we're a bunch of dopes, Sean.
	It's the stupidest system in the world, and it's not sustainable.
	These debts are going to continue to grow.
	When you look at the Clintons and the administrations between them, between Obama and Hillary is in the State Department, they grew our national debt from 10 trillion to 20.
	You get to 30, and you're past the point of no return.
	Another eight years of this stuff, and you see it.
	That's why they needed 250 million dollars to get to the same spot as my father is with 50.
	I mean, that is a that is a very big story because you think if look at all the money that Jeb Bush blew through going uh head to head with your dad.
	Jeb took 150 the last you know three months and not win a single primary.
	You know, it it doesn't that's the problem with government, Sean.
	There's no discipline because they don't need to have discipline because you're playing with funny money.
	It's other people's money.
	What difference does it make?
	So different we'll raise taxes or we'll we'll create more loopholes that people have to jump through to create fake revenue.
	You know, those are the things I mean, and those are the things that Hillary's saying.
	Hey, well, Trump wants to loosen some of these systems and let people do business.
	You know, companies are going bankrupt because five days of the year just getting their taxes done because it's so complicated.
	Let me ask you this.
	You know, that doesn't affect the big guys that they're you know to try to attack.
	I'm running out of time, that drives out small business, and that drives us into bankruptcy.
	You're as passionate as your dad.
	Let me here's your dad's agenda to me.
	He's gonna secure the border, meaning that Americans won't have to compete and drive down wages and it'll be good for our national security.
	He's he said repeatedly to me in interviews, he's gonna appoint conservative justices.
	He's gonna balance the budget, he's gonna replace Obamacare with health savings accounts.
	He wants to be energy independent in four years.
	He's gonna send education back to the states, he's gonna fix the VA, build up our military as a deterrent.
	Is there any of that that is not doable?
	Because it's basic, simple, but it would be a profound, have a positive, profound impact on the country.
	You get the last 30 seconds.
	Sean, it it's all doable.
	You just need someone in there who can actually effectuate change.
	You think that Hillary Clinton, after taking 35 million dollars from the Middle East, you think that she's gonna say, hey, uh Saudi, we're not gonna take your oil, we're gonna take advantage of our own natural resources.
	I mean, we're the Saudi Arabia of natural gas.
	We have the greatest oil reserves and gas reserves in the world, but she would rather push an environmental policy that everyone else laughs about uh so that we can keep taking the oil from our enemies.
	It's unbelievable.
	It makes no sense.
	All right, Don Jr., we always love having you.
	Uh I see a political future for you, just in case you're interested.
	That's that's my call.
	I know it's early.
	I appreciate it, by the way.
	You could be my campaign manager.
	I don't think I want the job.
	Uh thank you, though.
	Appreciate it.

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