A trial balloon for a new format. Relatively brief, topical, news update episodes. We might do more of this going forward. This one is a response to the recent march of masked neo-nazis waving swastika flags through Nashville, Tennessee. We talk about the group involved, Blood Tribe, and their leader, attitudes, and associates. Content Warnings Show Notes: Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay ad-free and independent. Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month plus all backer-only back-episodes. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1 Episode Notes: https://www.thedailybeast.com/neo-nazis-march-through-downtown-nashville-in-the-middle-of-black-history-month https://www.thedailybeast.com/maine-town-drives-out-blood-tribe-nazi-encampment https://www.thedailybeast.com/maine-wants-blood-tribe-neo-nazi-squatters-gone https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a34db/upcoming-neo-nazi-rally-shows-how-disparate-extreme-right-groups-work-together https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VN8Q3U1GYmo https://twitter.com/brotherjones_/status/1758936273153085941?t=Xl940T4MymEJFNwbv8-xtw&s=19 https://twitter.com/aimeeterese/status/1759162412044005506?t=RPJIC-pesOCNm1TyQd1wJw&s=19 https://twitter.com/NuanceBro/status/1758974163987943656?t=3GCLkboEX44mQWlsVKC2Kg&s=19 https://www.splcenter.org/states/tennessee https://www.splcenter.org/news/2023/04/17/tennessee-three-attempt-silence-lawmakers-strikes-heart-democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moxzSxwwmio
They are literally having a Nazi march, literally having a Nazi march here in downtown Nashville.
White supremacists talking about, um, white supremacist neo-nazism, um, talking about deporting folks and just racial hatred.
This is, this is what we're seeing here in Nashville.
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Welcome, everybody, to a new sort of thing.
A spur-of-the-moment thing, really.
We decided to do a quick reaction to a news story.
I mean, I'm here with Daniel, firstly.
Hi, Daniel.
Hello, Jack.
And audience.
And audience, in this unexpected new format, short mini-episode.
That's the idea, anyway.
So yeah, the story we're going to talk about is the neo-Nazis in red shirts and black hoods marching through downtown Nashville in the middle of Black History Month, which is more or less the headline that I'm looking at at the Daily Beast.
And I thought I'd just sort of intro it, in case you haven't heard about it, by reading a short bit from that report by senior reporter Kate Bricolet.
I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly.
About two dozen neo-Nazis marched through Nashville, Tennessee on Saturday, chanting and wielding giant swastika flags while spewing hatred.
The white supremacists dressed in red shirts are apparently part of the Blood Tribe fascist group.
Chose Black History Month to trek past a row of downtown restaurants and retail stores.
And the cold open that you heard at the start of the episode was Representative Justin Jones, member of the Tennessee House of Representatives, Justin Jones, who you might remember as one of the Tennessee Three from the thing last year where
Three lawmakers in the Tennessee House of Representatives were expelled briefly, they got back in, were expelled for protesting Republican gun laws, targeting, one of them is a white woman and the other two are black Americans, in a very obviously racial overtones to that event.
But yeah, Representative Justin Jones is the person you heard at the start speaking in a recording that he made of these people marching through the streets and put up to X. He also made some remarks to the Daily Beast that are quoted in the article.
racist immigrant rhetoric from his Republican colleagues is helping to normalize hate groups.
They're normalizing this so that these types of extreme manifestations of white supremacy feel comfortable coming out into the streets.
Yeah, and that's the report.
I'll link to it in case you want to read the thing in full.
But I thought, whenever I see something like this, I immediately think, well, I expect Daniel knows all about these people.
I expect he knows exactly who these people are, all the details.
So, of course, I messaged him and Daniel said, oh, yeah, I know about that.
So what I thought Daniel, I think what happened was you sent this to me like at 5 in the morning my time or something like that and I was in the midst of my Middle of the night.
I often have trouble sleeping.
So I wake up and just check my phone and then you messaged me then and I went Oh, yeah, I saw that in my previous time being awake at around 2 30 in the morning and that's blood tribe.
I'm very familiar Yeah there and also and I gave you some details and you were like, well this sounds like an episode and so that's why we're here Sounds like an emergency mini-episode.
That tells you what my sleep schedule is like most of the time these days.
It's like, I just wake up three times a night and check Twitter.
That's just what life has been for me for about seven years at this point, so you know.
Speaking of Twitter, or the site formerly known as Twitter, you sent me some links to reactions to Representative Justin Jones' post about this.
One of them is from the lovely Amy Therese, Because the language that Representative Jones uses is, as you heard, just left an event honoring black sorority and spoke of the need to unite against the rising tide of white supremacy, only to be confronted by Nazis marching through downtown Nashville, and Amy, very humorously, Oh, alas, he wasn't actually confronted by anyone at all.
But there's more to that than just snark, isn't there, Daniel?
Because there's a lot of this sort of nose-tapping, oh, this is suspicious, this is weird stuff around this post.
Like, there's one directly below it from somebody... I don't need to read the name, but I'll read the tweet.
There's no antifa present.
This is not a counter-protest.
No police lines.
If these were not permitted protests, then there's no arrest being made.
The march of at most a few dozen people.
Just a politician happened to run by that on exactly the right time to film it.
What a coincidence!
I used to live a couple of hours from Nashville.
I've been to Nashville.
I've probably walked down that street that they were walking down.
The state capitol is It's like blocks away from that location, as I recall.
It is not unusual to find lawmakers walking around downtown Nashville.
It is the state capitol.
This is completely unremarkable behavior.
This is a very hipster neighborhood.
This is the main parking garage for the library.
In fact, In the video that the representative posted, you can see it is the library parking garage.
So if you were at the public library in downtown Nashville, you would be Right at the location, if you parked at that parking garage, you would be at this location.
This is, like, I don't know, like, the idea of, like, oh, you just happen to walk by.
This is not, like, some side street in the suburbs somewhere.
This is downtown Nashville, blocks away from the Capitol Building.
It's, I'm sorry, as someone who has visited Nashville on, you know, a dozen occasions, it's ludicrous that anybody, you know, I'm about as far from being a denizen of Tennessee as a person could possibly be without actually living on a different planet.
But unless you're unable to understand basic reality or determined not to, the first thing that should strike you there is Nashville is the state capital of Tennessee.
This guy is a member of the Tennessee House of Representatives.
It's a political march.
They chose to hold it in the state capital.
There's no question of coincidences here.
This is like a British politician is confronted by a protest in the middle of Westminster outside the House of Parliament and somebody says, oh, I see, they just happen to be there at the same time as the MP or the minister.
And also, I think we're going to get there.
Nashville is kind of a hub of this kind of activity.
Since this came up, I've been looking, you know, I just basically just searched Tennessee on the SPLC website.
And yeah, it's a lot of information on there about hate groups, anti-government groups that they've been tracking in Tennessee.
Okay, so the other one I was about to mention is the Nuance Bro tweet.
The Nuance Bro tweet, I should say, includes some film that was taken, probably not by them, I don't know who took this film, interviewing the leader of Blood Tribe, Christopher Paul House, yes.
This is taken from a kind of an on-the-ground reporter at BG on the Scene, who often goes to these sorts of things and records them and then posts them onto their Twitter page.
So yeah, no, it is taken audio.
This is not Nuance Pro did not record this himself.
Nuance Pro is an arguably dissident alt-right figure himself.
He tends to mask himself in this kind of veil of ambiguity, but if you don't know who Nuance Pro is, really all I have to say is he has a blue check on Twitter in 2024, and you understand who this person is, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, what I'm going to play you now is a clip which is part of an interview with the leader of the Blood Tribe group, Christopher Polehouse.
Or we could just call him Hammer.
He goes by Hammer as well.
Hammer, okay.
It's an interview with Hammer from BG on the Scene.
Christopher, there's a presidential race going on right now.
Are you going to vote in 2024?
What do you think is going to happen?
My vote is useless.
I think Biden's better than Trump because he sends rockets to Ukraine.
In support of Ukraine, you mean?
Hail Ukraine!
Hail Azov!
Slavu Ukraina!
Slavu Ryazanov!
Tell me this, Christopher.
If I scream, you're a fucking traitor, you fucking reborn slave!
Slavu Ukraina!
So yes, there's a lot going on here.
Perhaps you can help me find my way through this.
Because firstly, Nuance Bro is quoting this sort of sarcastic line where it says, well, many of them, including their leader, support Biden, so dot dot dot, which is obviously a dig at Justin Jones, which is interesting.
And then there's more sort of conspiracy stuff underneath.
Oh, it's obviously staged.
It's the Feds and so on and so forth.
And then there's the interesting content of the interview.
So, Blood Tribe is, uh, it is sort of the brainchild, as I understand it, and I have not done a deep dive on Blood Tribe.
One of the things that I really don't do is really talk much about, like, the on-the-ground groups, like, in detail, mostly because I don't follow these people.
I don't actually go to these demonstrations.
If I could, if, if you guys will pay me to fly to these things, I would absolutely fly to these things and, uh, you know, and, and cover them, but, like, there are other people doing it on the ground, and really what you want is local reporting on this stuff, so, like, You know, I don't consider myself like a world-class expert on it, but I do know who Blood Tribe is because I follow this stuff enough to, you know, Christopher Paulhouse has been interviewed by Christopher Cantwell.
That may be a future episode where we go through that because that's a train wreck and a half.
But Blood Tribe is sort of Christopher Paulhouse's brainchild.
He's the leader.
These guys are very recognizable.
They've been doing this for years since, I want to say since like 2020, maybe 2019, but it may be a little bit more recent than that.
But they are very recognizable because most of them, aside from Paulhouse himself, who has a number of face tattoos, so he's very recognizable, wear a full black mask and they have identifying red Either long-sleeve shirts or t-shirts, and they tend to be a very identical shade of red.
And if Jack will share the tweet, the full tweet that he played a bit of audio from, you're going to see some of those shirts.
And they do that intentionally to make themselves very recognizable.
I first ran across them when they were attending a bunch of anti-groomer, quote-unquote, marches or events around the American South.
And the American Midwest last year and in 2022, which is always, always fun.
But yeah, Paul House is one of their big, one of the big, like, distinctions between Blood Tribe and some of the other, like, the other kind of dissident right, far right, alt right, you know, Nazi organizations is that Paul House in particular is Incredibly pro-Ukraine in the invasion of Russia against Ukraine, the oppression of Ukraine against Russian aggression.
And that is because Poll House absolutely believes in the philosophies or the ideology of the Aesop Battalion, which I don't think he really, really understands the internal details of.
But he definitely sees the Aesop Battalion as full-on Nazis working under a swastika flag.
And for him, the swastika flag is the symbol he wants to march under.
It's a symbol that he wants to Bring people together under um whether it's ideologically consistent with the you know kind of the overt neo-nazis or not so he uses a loud voice he uses a in-your-face a confrontational approach in order to get that tiny percentage of people who will be attracted to that message and that sort of um You know, on the ground activism is meant to, you know, pursue that agenda.
He is one who, and I'm kind of going by the interview with Cantwell, he kind of sees ultimately the system, you know, our society is going to collapse.
And then like, ultimately somebody has to take charge and then he's going to have like a group of people who are going to rise up from the ashes in the aftermath of the collapse because they're going to be proper Aryan men, et cetera, et cetera.
In terms of the, like, Fed accusations, that's something that always happens with... The clearest example of this is Kelly J. Keene in Australia.
I don't know if you remember the event in Australia where Kelly J. Keene, aka Posey Parker, that's her real name, visited Australia, did an anti-trans event, you know, sort of, you know, gays against groomers, gays against trans, you know, it's the LGBT, without the T, kind of event.
And a far right Australian not not blood tribe to be clear, but blood tribe to my knowledge is exclusively American because they have like 40 people involved or something, you know They had a group of Australian neo-nazis come up and start like doing the Roman salutes doing the doing the Hitler the Hitler youth thing and And Kelly J Keane is like, I don't know, these are not, they don't agree with me, they're, they're, they're, these are people trying to make me look bad, trying to make me look like a bad person.
And it's like, no, no, they agree with you completely, right?
And so whenever these kind of like far-right groups who are protesting the same things that mainstream conservatives at this point in the United States, you know, and it strikes me as, I'm just gonna, as a side, the idea that like Matt Walsh doing a, Doing a thing in Nashville like literally like miles from where this event was happening that we recorded.
Matt Walsh did a, the rally against the mutilation of children or something like that I don't know the exact language, but did that miles away from that.
And then would reject someone like the Blood Tribe coming up and saying like, we're part of you because we also agree with you, but we're waving a swastika and therefore they must be feds, right?
Yeah.
In terms of like the mainstream response.
There is this like kind of complicated dance that these guys are playing together in terms of the ultra far right.
The Blood Tribe wants to glom onto these events to get people further to their cause, to their explicitly neo-Nazi cause.
And the more mainstream right wants to do the terrible thing, but absolve themselves of the Nazi rhetoric that they themselves are spreading.
And so when the Nazis actually show up to agree with them, they have to distance themselves for them.
And the way they do that is to just call the feds, throw this out to make us look bad by saying the same things that we're saying, but wearing a Nazi armband.
I was just going to liken it really to what some of the MAGA Republicans have done around January 6th.
They've done the same thing.
Anything that makes us look bad.
Well, no, it's not even that simple.
If it makes us look bad outside our in-group, or if we just want a way to bat away the criticisms that come from outside our in-group, what we do is we say, "Well, this thing that made us look bad or could potentially make us look bad," or just whatever you're talking about, that was the feds.
That was a setup.
So January 6th was done by the feds.
It was done by the FBI.
The protesters were all peaceful.
Here's some footage from CCTV inside the Capitol of protesters just standing there, not doing anything.
But at the same time, or later the same day or whatever, the people that say things like that, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, will be at one of their events, and she'll say something like, and she actually said something like this, you know, if I'd been there and I'd had a gun, we would have won.
I mean, even worse to the point, NSC 131, which is one of the sort of splinter groups from You know, some of the, you know, actually accelerationist terrorist groups, like sort of the, you know, the Attawaffen types.
NSC-131 is one of the smaller groups.
They had a presence on January 6th, right?
But those people are feds.
They were just trying to make us look bad when they were saying the exact same thing, that Trump should be kept in office on January 6th.
Like, you know, none of those are the bad ones.
And then, like, of course, you know, Nick Fuentes is, you know, depending on who you are, he's either accepted or rejected as like a legitimate actor.
You know, most people would not even on the kind of legitimate right, would not call him an actual fed.
They would call him like misguided or they would say, well, we don't stand with him.
We don't agree with everything that he stands for.
So there is a complicated dance that these guys play.
My favorite, my absolute favorite example of this is from a different group, Patriot Front, when they invaded a pride parade in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho in, I think, 2022.
And 40-something sweaty dudes in way too many clothes, because they all have to wear the mask and they do the full thing, took a U-Haul to threaten, I mean, let's just put it in some words, to threaten a queer community gathering in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho in 2022.
And the cops were very well aware, and they actually, you know, I'm not standing for cops here, they actually stopped this shit, unmasked these people, and like took photos of all of them, and uh...
Anti-fascists have identified all these guys for years and then like Lauren Southern and you know, like all these guys, you know, Tim Pool, etc.
Set out and go.
Oh, no.
No, these guys are feds.
We know they're feds because they're fit and they're you know, these are these are guys are well-dressed and all that sort of stuff.
So they can't obviously be Nazis and then they'll go and go.
Yeah.
No, we know these guys are feds because Yeah, but then anti-fascists are like, no, we know these actual individuals.
We know they're fucking Nazis.
They've been Nazis for years.
We've tracked them for years.
You know why?
Because we actually do our research, you know?
Yeah, Blood Tribe, very few Blood Tribe members have been...
Identified to my knowledge.
I'm probably not in the circuit of like maybe some of these guys have been certainly Paul house is I don't know Maybe he's paid by the feds.
It wouldn't surprise me that he's paid by the feds, but he's not paid by the feds to make like the Moderate right or the the dis right or whatever look bad.
He's just a Nazi Full stop and he's not saying I support not Biden because he actually supports Biden.
He's saying I support Biden because Biden is funding The Biden administration is providing money to the Ukrainian defense against Russian aggression, and therefore Biden must actively support the Azov Battalion.
It's buried in so many levels of irony and rhetoric that it's hard to get through without outlining it.
It's weird because he's bought the Russian propaganda narrative and the right-wing propaganda narrative about Ukraine that people use to justify Putin's invasion or to sow seeds of doubt and confusion around the issue, which is, you know, Ukraine is a Nazi state or it's nearly a Nazi state, there's Nazis in power all over it and so on.
Here's the Azov battalion He seems to have just completely bought that narrative.
So he's, on the surface anyway, it sounds like he's supporting Ukraine against Russia on Nazi grounds, you know, it's ironic enough.
I would argue that, at least from my understanding, I would argue that his support of Azov Predated the invasion in 2022.
Like, I would think he was already, like, he already wanted to go fight for Azov.
He already supported Azov in their, you know, sort of, like, their Nazi tendencies, and he's supporting them on that level.
And so, like, saying, I support Biden is less about, like, the more complicated narrative that the right is trying to sell, and more about Well, they're flying under a banner of a swastika and so therefore I support them and they should go kill as many people as possible who are against that like Nazi agenda.
So it is this sort of almost just like...
Parallelism to tankies in a way of like, you know, well we support North Korea because they oppose like we support, you know, whatever You know battalion in North Korea or whatever battalion and you know, you know, whatever oppressive state Because they're against NATO hegemony, right?
Yeah, and so he's just doing the very dumb mirror universe version of that which is it really is that same in that audience and That the US should invade North Korea.
That's not at all what I'm saying.
We should be adults here and that there are nuances to all these things, but that's the way you should understand it.
He's doing the dumbest possible version of support for Ukraine, and he's also using support for Biden to troll the sort of normie conservatives who would be watching, to set us apart from that.
And so if you don't understand Paul House on that level, you're not really understanding Paul House in general.
It's kind of the same thing with the Christchurch Massacre, Britton Terrence manifesto, where he says, well, I learned everything I know from Candace Owen, or I think Candace Owens is a great thinker or whatever.
And no, he doesn't.
He's just trolling.
He's just joking.
This is meant for his particular extremely far-right audiences with him and to the people who are against him but might be persuaded by his like hardcore stance.
So I want to play a clip of a guy that confronted the The blood tribe marchers in the street.
What he does is he gets his phone, obviously, and he just follows them down the street.
And there is a serious point that I want to ask you about lurking behind this, but also, it's just very funny.
Show me your faces!
Show me your faces!
Cowards!
Cowards!
All of you!
F***ing cowards!
Show me your f***ing faces!
Where's your face, you f***ing cowards?
SHOW ME YOUR FACE!
SHOW ME YOUR FACE, YOU F***ING COWARDS!
ALL OF YOU F***ING COWARDS!
F***ING COWARDS!
WHERE'S YOUR FACE?!
WHERE'S YOUR FACE?!
SHOW ME YOUR FACE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE!
IS IT MY FACE?!
Let's f***ing move!
So...
Firstly, hero.
Secondly, why are they wearing masks?
Why are they wearing costumes?
Well, because they don't want to be doxxed.
Well, you wear the uniform so that you show strength, right?
You show strength in numbers.
You wear the uniform so that you show strength, right?
You show strength in numbers.
And when you have like 40 guys walking through downtown Nashville wearing identical clothes, like it is, it's intimidating.
You don't want to, if you are a, you know, African American representative, you know, state representative in Nashville, you don't want to be confronted by that.
Sorry, Amy Therese, that he was confronted by a group of Nazis and, you know, If Amy Therese was walking around in wherever she lives in Australia, and a bunch of masked Antifa walked around, she would also say she was confronted by Antifa, even if they said nothing to her.
So, like, that's... Sorry, just wanted to deal with that bit of bullshit.
Sure, yeah.
What she means is it's a shame he wasn't lynched.
Yeah, basically, yeah.
Well, they didn't confront you, but they should have.
That's kind of what she is implying there.
Or you're a six-letter f-word for even caring about this, because I think that's what Amy Therese is saying, is like, you all are a bunch of snowflakes.
These are people with legitimate political grievances, and the fact that you clutch your pearls over them being on your streets is You just not being able to understand reality or not being able to tolerate difference of opinion.
At least that's the guise she puts it under.
Yeah, no, they don't want to be doxxed because what scares these guys is ultimately people knowing who they are and where they live.
And you can put that as, well, they're scared to lose their jobs, they're scared to be out of their family, they're scared to be out of their friends.
But really it's the this implied threat by this terrifying specter of Antifa that Antifa is going to, you know, just like like a spirit sucking mechanism just come and like steal your soul from you if they know who you are.
I mean, it is like nerds sitting on a line and looking through databases and searching Facebook and going through, you know, Gab threads and stuff.
Discord leaks.
and figuring out who people are like that's the thing they're absolutely terrified of um it's people who are looking in the places that they don't think they're looking you know not to put us up put up not to pat ourselves on the back or anything but that's what these people are scared of yeah
it's this weird dance of wanting to have this this big public performance of strength and also at the same time wanting a to be anonymous and so to escape any sort of social consequences for openly and publicly avowing these beliefs and And B. they also want to, as you say, they want to imply that they're in terrible danger from Antifa or whatever.
I mean, I think some of them, I think a lot of them actually believe it.
I think they actually do.
I think they actually are threatened.
And particularly in the aftermath of Unite the Right in August 2017.
And the fact that so many of those guys went, you know, barefaced and were like identified immediately, within days after their appearance in Unite the Right.
And I think that there is this generic fear of that kind of exposure.
And I think that's a good thing.
Yes.
I don't know.
As someone who does this stuff under my own name, who has suffered some of the consequences of doing that, I think Nazis should be... I don't think they should be scared for their lives, but I think they should be scared of Um, future employment and of being exposed, you know, I don't have a problem with that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This group, um, you know, since I, since we decided to do this, um, this episode, I've been sort of doing some very light skim research on them.
Just really the first search results from sources that are, that are worth bothering with, you know, and they're, they've been, they've been quite active.
They've been on a bit of a kick lately.
They've been, I mean, they've been active in Maine.
They've been active in Ohio.
They've been active in Florida.
And now in Nashville as well.
The other clip that you sent me of the quote unquote protest that they attended in March last year of the Drag Time Story Hour, I don't know, do you want Do you want to go into that clip a little bit?
I don't know that bit that we both remarked upon.
That's not Blood Tribe speaking.
No, I think that clip is the Proud Boys speaking.
I'm looking at the video that you're about to share and I think that bit is definitely that Blood Tribe.
To be clear, Blood Tribe and Proud Boys often show up to these same events.
These guys disagree with each other fundamentally because Proud Boys are fundamentally like a sort of Republican booster group.
They support like sort of a like sort of the manic the MAGA republicanism they were support they support the Republican Party and like what?
Republicans agree with whereas The blood tribe is much more like an overtly national socialist with a like violent tenge, you know advocacy group So these guys do have their differences, but the fact they both show up to the same events where they could be They are held away from the more mainstream conservatives.
It speaks volumes in terms of the relationship between these groups.
It's not that they fundamentally disagree on the issue.
They agree on the issue that all trans people, all gay people, all LGBT people are groomers.
And if that means fundamentally abusive children, they are 100% in agreement on that because the ideology that has been bubbling up from the bottom and from the top has told them that that's a viable political strategy and likely actually true.
They all believe that, but they differentiate themselves from each other because they cannot be seen to agree with each other and maintain their particular financial support or listener support or peer support, just support in general.
They're segmenting their audience to attack the same people while maintaining a differentiation in terms of how they view themselves and who they're allowed to associate with.
Just in passing, I found a Vice article which talks about their relationship with the Guillaume Defense League as well.
Guillaume Defense League.
That's a full episode one day.
Don't worry.
We're going to do that.
Put a pin in that.
We'll get back to that.
So I don't know.
I feel like we've done what we set out to do, but maybe sort of round it off with just that bit in that video that we both remarked upon.
As mentioned, this is from March last year, and it's from a congregation of far-right groups protesting a drag-time story hour in Wadsworth, Ohio.
It's a little bit off-topic, really, because the bit we're going to play, as Daniel says, is probably Proud Boys rather than Blood Tribe, but this certainly struck me when you shared this with me.
I'm our republic.
It was right before Hitler took power.
It was degeneracy.
That's the first ever transgender clinic.
It was in Berlin, Germany.
It was the Institute of Sexology.
Albert Hirschfeld, a Jew, coincidence, I'm sure, started it.
And the Hitler youth burned it to the ground.
They always tell you what books they burn.
Or they always tell you they burn books.
They never tell you what books they burn.
And that was it.
And the same stuff is happening today.
So yeah, that famous sexologist, Albert Hirschfeld.
I mean, that's the least of it, really.
His name was Magnus Hirschfeld.
His name was Magnus Hirschfeld, yes.
And Magnus Hirschfeld was a hero.
Magnus Hirschfeld was a hero, for sure.
And, you know, no question here.
By modern standards, he had his work and his problems, don't get me wrong, but he was, in his time, just an amazing human being.
All I have to do is go back and look at IDHG 52, the only one that I did by myself, because I thought I was gonna fuck that up completely and I didn't want Jack to be involved with it.
And nonetheless, that was the one in which I said, actually, the Nazis and the TERFs are the same fucking people.
The Venn diagram of Nazis and TERFs is a circle, you know?
And what are these guys doing?
They're saying, you know, you hear this sort of Weimar Republic language very often.
We're in Weimar.
The guy speaking in that clip is stood next to another guy holding a banner that says Weimar problems need Weimar solutions.
So the Weimar problems in this phraseology are not Expansion of currency and you know, like all the things that were problems to the Weimar Republic that it is People are being degenerate.
They are selling their bodies for sex.
They're fucking around.
There are gay people.
There are trans people Magnus Hirschfeld is going off and like cutting people's dicks off.
That's not what he was doing But you know what?
I mean, you know, you know, you know Those are the things.
And what is the answer?
The Adolf Hitler.
You gotta bring Hitler in to just clear everything along.
And these are Proud Boys.
These are people who are not overt Nazis.
But as we know from many years of being adjacent to the Proud Boys on this podcast, The actual fascist ideology, actual National Socialism, is only buried an inch deep from these guys.
It's not really a question of why they're protesting alongside the Blood Tribe, who are actually overt neo-Nazis.
It's really a question of why Matt Walsh and other, you know, relatively mainstream conservatives I agree with these same things.
It's not really a question of why the mainstream Republican Party in many states is passing laws against trans people being allowed to access medical care.
It's not really a question, sorry I'm gonna go here, not really a question why Jesse Singal, who is ethnically Jewish, it's not really a question why Jesse Singal spends so much of his time Being absolutely overt in his hatred for trans people, while pretending he doesn't have a hatred for trans people.
Because ultimately, these people are fascists.
Yeah, it kind of brings us round in a circle to what Representative Jones was saying in that quote that I quoted at the start, he's perfectly right.
These laws that Republicans are putting through or trying to put through state legislatures all across the United States.
I mean, he's talking specifically about his purview, his bailiwick, which is Tennessee.
They are extreme Fascist laws.
They are motivated by extreme fascist ideology.
In Tennessee, again, the SPLC website, I found an article about the successive waves of bigoted legislation targeting LGBTQ people, particularly trans people, or attempted to be put through in Tennessee.
So he's absolutely right.
It is setting the stage.
It's the same thing at a different level.
Pretty soon we're going to do what I meant to originally be our first big episode back, which is going to be entitled The Alt-Right One, and that's going to be the thesis of that big episode, because I have a ton of evidence in that regard.
It's really just the thesis of this podcast.
That sounds cheerful.
Yeah.
It's everything that we've said now, but with more documentary evidence.
That's all it's going to be.
Okay.
And on that cheery note... Note, we send you back out into the cold, dark world, listeners.
Thanks for joining us for this.
Bit off the cuff, you can probably tell.
Last minute improvised emergency short episode.
I don't know.
I liked this.
I enjoyed this.
I think this is good.
I think maybe this is the admittedly rough template, but maybe the template for something we could keep doing.
I think we're going to do more of these, where Jack preps clips and then I respond to the clips.
That's a really good strategy for me.
Because I just show up and yeah, you know, we prep in advance and we respond so it's gonna be it's gonna be awesome Yeah, no, we will do more of these probably with a little bit more time But I think this is the way we're gonna do like news updates moving forward Who knew that the Jimmy Dore two-parter was going to be the way of the future?
I think there's a substantial portion of the audience who would really hate that to be the way for the future.
But we will be doing more news updates in this form, for sure.
Well, that's it, everybody.
Thanks for listening, and goodbye.
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