This week, special guest Goad Gatsby joins us from the streets of Twitter (you'll get it later) to tell us all about Virginia's biggest growing threat, so-called "Trump in heels", coup-supporting, GOP-suing, fash-associated, plexiglass-encased firebrand, State Senator (and gubernatorial hopeful) Amanda Chase, and her epic struggles against the tyrannical forces of Antifa, the Deep State, RINOs, Covid masks, reality, anyone who criticises her, and - most poignantly - car park cops. Don't you know who she is??? Content warnings. Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay independent. Patrons get exclusive access to one full extra episode a month. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618 IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1 Goad's Twitter: @GoadGatsby
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All right.
Okay, okay.
Okay, we've had our fun.
Now it's time for the fun to end.
The seriousness of the podcast.
Yeah, because it's episode 81 of I Don't Speak German, the podcast that's about unpleasant people.
And yeah, we've definitely got one of those to talk about tonight.
Two of those, in fact.
But yes, first, I'll introduce myself, even though you all know who I am.
I'm Jack.
And of course, as usual, we've got Daniel with us.
Hello, Daniel.
Hello, Jack.
Nice to meet you for the first time.
Hello, Daniel.
I'm looking forward to getting to know you.
And also, a very special guest joining us this week.
It's Goad.
Is that what we should call you?
Just Goad?
It's Goad.
Goad Gatsby.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not Jim Goad, I would presume.
No, Jim Goad is actually a distant relative of me.
Oh, well, does that does that mean you get to chat with Patton Oswalt from time to time?
Well, according to my father, is that like his fifth cousin is Jim Goad and they've met at a family gathering before and he he did not like him.
He did not like him one bit.
So I've known about Jim Goad for over 20 years, just just because of that.
No, no, I believe it.
Yeah, somebody, somebody I am acquainted with claims to have been, claims to have David Duke in his, like he has occasionally attended family gatherings with David Duke.
And I don't know if he was just fucking with me because we were drinking on Skype late at night that night.
But I have not chosen to revisit that topic since then.
So, yeah, no, it's a small world sometimes.
Anyway, thank you for being here, obviously.
Thank you for having me.
OK, so yeah, we're going to be talking about Amanda Chase with Goad in this episode.
But before we get to that lovely, lovely woman and all about her, we have, of course, a bit of Cantwell news to tackle, don't we, Daniel?
A bit of the old-fashioned Cantwell news.
A bit of the old-fashioned Cantwell news.
I keep saying the last Cantwell news, but at least the last Cantwell news for 41 months or so, although probably not.
Because Christopher Cantwell, the crying Nazi, was sentenced this week for the crime that he definitely committed.
He did tear up during the sentencing hearing, although on the So to Speak podcast with Jared Howe, he swore up and down that it was not during the sentencing itself, that it was earlier in the moment.
So, you know, we will take him at his word on that.
But he was sentenced to 41 months.
Our friend Goat here has a bit of a background with Christopher Cantwell.
So I thought, you know, it's kind of serendipitous that we had this kind of meeting in minds.
And so, Goat, would you like to share your opinions of Mr. Cantwell?
Yes!
To whatever length you would like to go.
Uh, Mr. Cantwell and I have been up close and personal before on the night of August 11th in 2017, um, when he unloaded a can of pepper spray at me, um, which, which in his defense was, uh, I didn't pepper spray you.
I pepper sprayed the guy right next to you because he was looking at me funny.
Right.
Um, yeah.
Well, that's fine then.
Yeah.
I don't like talking to the police, but I filed a police report.
It's terrible.
This only reinforced my don't talk to the police idea here.
But as a result of bringing him up on charges for him pepper spraying me, he filed a lawsuit against me and friend of the pod, Emily Gorzinski.
Former guest.
Hopefully we'll get her back one of these days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's way too famous for us, but fine.
But yeah, we were both sued by Cantwell in just a remarkably Horrible worded lawsuit complaint against us, but he has the confidence to believe that it's going to work, and it did not.
He wasted all of his money.
It went to his legal defenses and Elmer Woodard.
I'm sure Elmer Woodard is sitting at a beach right now being like, forget that guy.
Sitting in Cancun drinking Mai Tais off of Christopher Cantwell's Bitcoin donations, you know?
But, uh, I'm sure you've covered this plenty of times before.
He extorted another Nazi to dox a third Nazi, and that extortion involved that second Nazi's He threatened to rape the second Nazi's wife in front of her children.
And then in his legal filings claimed it wasn't a threat of rape because he technically threatened to fuck her in front of her children.
And he said it wasn't technically a threat of rape because she might have enjoyed it and consented to the activity.
I hate it.
Yeah, although I kind of wish I could be a fly on the wall in the room, you know, when he came up with it.
Just imagine seeing the lightbulb expression, you know?
Hey, I've got something!
This is also, like, regularly was the content of his podcast, and the nice thing about him being behind bars, and I think we're all kind of, like, anti-prison being a thing that exists, but it is very nice for me that he is not able to get on the microphone too often any longer, so I don't have to keep listening to him do these sorts of things.
So, yeah.
As Drill would say, I will never log off.
Who was outside of my house yelling log off?
It was everyone.
It was everyone.
While he was stuck in Virginia, he directed his anger at me and Emily because instead of taking responsibility for his own actions, it's got to be someone else's fault.
So I had dealt with that for a while.
He's made a lot of speculation.
I had to explain to my father what the term does go to echo mean, which I'm sure the regular listeners will be like.
Oh, he's asking if you're Jewish, and I had to just like sit down and explain, explain this world to my father after my father was like, I'm going to try and listen to the radical agenda for one episode and go, no, no, no, stop, stop.
You go, no, it's fine.
Daniel Harper is there for that.
That's what he's here for.
Yeah.
You don't have to.
Yeah, we have a Judas goat that does this for us.
Oh, yeah, no, so but yeah, no he we did cover this on a number of previous episodes including the trial with Hillary Sargent.
So go and check out all that previously.
But he has been sentenced and people were expecting us to talk about it.
And so we have now officially talked about it.
And yeah, so he.
He was sentenced to 41 months, so he will be out sometime in 2023, although I listened to, he did go on to Jared Howe's podcast after the sentencing, and he has some hope that he will get put into a halfway house with about a year left of his sentence, and so.
I don't know.
Apparently, there's also some provisions that they haven't decided whether he's going to be allowed to use a computer during his release at all.
So we may not be hearing anything from Chris Cantwell if, you know, fingers crossed until, you know, 2026, 2027, with any luck.
And Chris Cantwell, if you're listening to this and you want some advice from me, Goat Gatsby, just find some other career, like just like This has not turned out well for you, Chris.
Work in a warehouse.
Do something else.
Podcasting has not worked for you.
Please move on.
He used to pull cable, apparently.
He used to, like, run network cable.
Like, that was his job for a number of years, was just that.
And, like, that's, like, go find a wife who, well, I really don't wish you on any, like, woman.
That's really bad.
You're such a vicious misogynist.
But go find a life outside of podcasting and maybe, like, learn to, you know, tone it down a few notches.
And that's the best advice I have for Chris Cantwell.
And stop harassing my friends, and other people as well, but particularly my friends.
Stop harassing them and stop sending rape and death threats towards them.
That would be a really nice thing for you to do.
Yeah, agreed.
Yeah, just anything.
Literally.
Just go back to being a stand-up comedian.
Literally anything, other than what you're doing.
Oh man, can you imagine?
Okay, I'm not even thinking about that.
Anyway, unless you have something else to add about Cantwell, we should probably move on to the official topic.
Yeah, hopefully we don't have to talk about him for a while.
I think we've said that a lot in the past, but this time it might actually be true.
I have literally said that every time I've talked about Cantwell.
I did the two-part episode on Cantwell and went, And now I'm done.
I don't ever have to talk about Cantwell again.
And then, like, it becomes a segment, and then it's a thing.
And then things happen in Cantwell's life, and it's like, oh, I can't wait for the next IDSG pod!
And I'm like, Jesus Christ, people.
This is my life.
This is where we go.
But, uh, that sick Patreon money.
Should have put this behind the paywall.
Make people pay me for it.
That would have been the way to go.
But, um, alright.
Amanda Chase, we should move on.
Yeah.
Amanda Chase is your chosen topic, Goad, and so go for it.
Well, Amanda Chase, just like me, lives in central Virginia.
But unlike me, she's a state senator, much like Matt Shea.
And a lot of comparisons that she likes to refer to herself as Trump and heels.
I don't think that's a fair comparison.
I think like Matt Shea, but on the East Coast with different affiliations.
You described it to me in the back channel as Matt Shabe with links to predatory lending.
Let's start off with the origin story of Amanda Chase.
She went to Virginia Tech.
She got a business degree.
Her husband also is in the financial sector.
She's worked around from, I think, don't quote me on this one.
She had also worked at the Richmond Federal Reserve office So, um, you know, and the Fed, uh, She and the Fed just to get rid of Amanda Chase.
Good plan.
Yeah.
But like, yeah, it's not like policy positions.
It's just like running the call center.
And, uh, she, at the time she started getting into like, uh like right-wing libertarian like politics and getting people to run and she stops working in like some of these larger places and starts becoming a vice president for a company called Primerica.
I think just the name kind of just sounds like this company does scams.
So Primerica works with like multi uh level multi-level marketing type of like sign other people up for like financial planning So you can be on a higher tier.
Yeah, I wish I could find more information.
Maybe I should just go undercover and be friends with Amanda Chase and ask her, hey, can you sign me up for whatever you do with your business?
Because I don't know how that works.
You need to go get a job in that call center and like whenever you actually talk to an actual person go no don't do this ever no don't do this ever and then but use it as a way of getting yourself up the ranks that would be the strategy.
So 2013-2014 she's starting to work two angles and that's.
Working for Primerica, and she's also now trying to help the right of the Republican Party get elected into positions.
And sort of like context of what's going on in Virginia is that From 2009 until the end of 2014, Bob McDonald was the Governor, Attorney General was former Acting Deputy Chief of the Department of Homeland Security, Ken Cuccinelli, and they're running this huge cultural war battle within the Virginia government.
So Amanda Chase is definitely part of Pushing the Overton window to the right.
And she's actually a part of the campaign for Dave Brat.
And Dave Brat ran against Republican Majority Whip Eric Cantor.
And Dave Brat is running to his right in the Republican primary and defeats him.
And Amanda Chase is the campaign manager, and she works with him for a while until she runs her own campaign for state senator.
Also, in a smaller district that's southwest Richmond suburb, it's extremely conservative.
And she runs against another Republican who had sat in that seat for about, I think, 28 years, and she beats him in a three-way primary race, and she easily wins in the general election and takes the state senate seat.
But as this is happening, Virginia is becoming less conservative in its electoral politics, and now recently it's switched over to both legislative body houses are now Democrats, and she doesn't have the same type of sway.
Well, she continues to play this pushing the politics further right, and she endorses other candidates that are running against sitting Republicans.
And so this doesn't go very well in like her county Republican seat as she like endorses somebody who's running against the Republican sheriff.
So as a result, like the county Republicans of Chesterfield kick her out of the party.
And she's making a lot more enemies within her Republican caucus.
And by 2019, she's no longer caucusing with the Senate Republicans.
Um, and, and there's also like an interaction that she has, there's like a restricted parking space in a, in a like a rich Virginia Capitol police officer tells her she can't come in there.
And so she, she cusses out that, um, and like then denies that it happens until like a video surfaces of her like cussing out that.
And then she changes her story like, yeah, that officer was mean to me.
That's why I had to cuss out that officer.
And this is just the beginning of like a lot of trends that she has where she begins to deny until there's evidence.
And then she switches her story up like the morally right thing to do over a parking spot.
Although, I've seen people do worse over parking spots.
If you live in the United States, you've seen people basically offer to commit genocide for a parking spot in the U.S.
But yeah, she wins her re-election despite the Republicans distancing her, revelations about Facebook groups that she's in that's becoming more and more conspiratorial-minded.
And yeah, she wins re-election and she goes into her new seat in 2020.
And this is now Democrats control both houses and the governor.
And so they can pass as many laws as they want.
And she's getting very frustrated.
She's down to only one committee assignment.
When everybody goes in caucuses, she's just all by herself during that period of time.
And in 2020, I decided to go down to the Richmond Capitol as many days as I could to try and gauge what militia groups, neo-Confederate groups are doing.
Because this is the lead up for a gun lobby, an annual gun lobby, which is gaining a lot of traction nationally.
Um, a lot of out of state like militia types and just like gun enthusiasts are showing up as well as just like wild people like Proud Boys are showing up too.
So I'm trying to pay attention to this and I start to notice that like every day she's having like a police escort her through the chambers of the Senate.
But like She's doing this to claim victimhood, because as soon as the Democrats come in and get control of the House of Delegates, they pass a rule saying nobody can open carry except for law enforcement.
And Amanda Chase loves to open carry in the Senate.
In fact, I believe she still carries a gun with her in her purse.
And by law, she's not allowed to be no one can stop her from going in because if you win an election, like you're allowed to just walk in and out, you can't stop a senator from coming in and voting.
So she has a gun purse on her that she makes very well known.
That is her gun purse.
And she parades herself down there.
But yeah, so I immediately noticed that like she's having like police like escort her down the hallways, because while this is happening, like Uh, out of state, like, uh, women's rights groups are trying to, uh, have the state pass, like, uh, the equal rights amendment.
Um, and so, you know, every time, like, a legislator comes down, they kind of, like, nicely say, like, we would really appreciate your, uh, your support for this.
But, like, I, uh, I just noticed, like, every day, like, Amanda Chase, like, gives this mean look, and then she, like, tries to make up stories, like, I'm, I'm being threatened, they're following me, and, like, no, it's just what people do when they try to convince people to politely have them vote for a thing.
So, Lobby Day comes rolls around, and this is finally like... You should probably describe what Lobby Day is, just for people not in Virginia.
So, for people not in Virginia who may not have heard this, the Virginia Citizens Defense League has a Lobby Day on Martin Luther King Day every year.
And This last year, it brought in over 20,000 people to protest any type of gun legislation being passed.
People showing up would be like Alex Jones, as well as like 3% are militias.
And it's it's the person that runs it.
Most people may know the head of the VCDL from Uh, the Ali, uh, the Sacha Baron Cohen show, like, uh, is this America where, uh, where he convinces this guy to, uh, do a PSA for guns for three-year-olds.
Nice.
Yeah.
His name's Philip Van Cleave.
Um, he's like a regular lobbyist down in Richmond and, um, somehow he gains respect in the gun community.
Yeah, we covered the G20 2020 protest, the Lobby Day protest, at the time it happened on the show.
And that's sort of the moment at which sort of the Boogaloo movement, kind of the larger Boogaloo movement, starts to be like prominent.
I think that's the first time that national media kind of ran into it, which is kind of interesting.
So I just wanted to make sure we got into what Lobby Day is before we move on.
So please continue.
Yeah, I would say at like that point, like she didn't have like any association with Boogaloo at that point.
Yeah, yeah.
But well, you know, it was foreshadowing, you know, this Chekhov's gun, right?
This Chekhov's Boogaloo movement, right?
Yeah.
She gives us she gives a speech.
And I'm not kidding you exactly where the argument with the police officer over the parking spot happened.
And I don't think that is an accident what one bit whatsoever.
And then Reagan went to Neshoba, and Amanda Chase went to the parking spot.
So, sorry, you think she's deliberately invoking her moment of glory?
Yes, this is exactly what I'm suggesting.
That's why I'm making sure there's no joke here.
It's the same exact spot where the argument happened.
That's amazing!
Jesus Christ!
The level of, like, just personal, like, whininess that you have over, like, I got into an argument with a police officer once about a parking space.
It's just, like, the level of, like, manufactured personal victimhood that just, sorry, it's just such a, like, indicative thing of, like, the entire right wing.
It's, yeah, it's, please continue.
So, while she's giving this speech, There is a person to her to her right that you may be able to recognize.
I think I sent you that video.
You did.
It's Enrico Terrio.
Oh, right.
Enrique Terrio is right next to her, like while she's giving her her speech during gun lobby, like it's an enclosed space.
So he would have had to been invited.
And there's also another person by her side.
And that person is Joshua Macias.
who would go on and be arrested in Philadelphia for election interference because him and his buddy, who's also like one of Amanda Chase's security guards, like rolled up there, like while they're doing, like they're doing the vote counting in Philadelphia before Biden is declared the winner.
On like November 7th or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
After the election, yeah.
Yeah, like two QAnon people, like the other guy, well, one of them, One's QAnon, the other guy's Bets for Trump, it's his campaign.
But they're definitely connected to Amanda Chase.
And this continues as part of a trend of she's trying to build a coalition of just sort of Unusual people.
And, like, QAnon militia types make sense, but she also has to bring in additional people to, like, anti-vaxxers, the pro-life crowd.
And I've lived in Virginia for a while and I pay attention to primaries, and I tend to see people go two ways in trying to win a primary.
And that's either, like, try to be the loudest voice Try to convince people like you're the normal candidate and your name recognition will let you win a primary.
And then the other way is to convince all these people who have this one very important thing.
They normally don't pay attention to primaries, but they'll come out if they hear like the person that supports them for this one important thing, whether it be Second Amendment rights, whether it be abortion rights, whether it be anti-vaxxer rights, Whatever.
To build this type of coalition.
And to go back, the previous governor's race, an individual by the name of Corey Stewart ran for governor.
He came very close.
And his coalition involved anti-immigration.
But Corey Stewart did do campaign rallies with Jason Kessler.
Who was the organizer slash fall guy of the Unite the Right rally.
And where you want to land on that is where you want to land on that.
So Amanda Chase is trying to duplicate the success that Corey Stewart had because he came very close and then the next year he won the primary for the Republican nomination for Senate, which he got crushed by Tim Kaine in that general election.
But Amanda Chase is trying to build a coalition.
But because right now the Republican Party is weak, in Virginia they keep losing statewide elections, there just isn't a strong candidate.
So she actually follows both In these categories of being the person who's doing the best at fundraising, doing the best at name recognition, and she's also building a coalition of people that will come out and vote because they have that one thing that's important to them, whether it be the COVID denier community that is one-on-one with the anti-vaxxers, whether it be these gun militia crowds,
And I don't know if you've heard the news about how the Republican Party, they're going to choose their nominee for governor this year.
Have you heard this before?
I have not.
My following of Virginia politics is mostly just following you and a handful of other people on Twitter.
I would take the L on this one, except I don't even follow Michigan politics that closely, and I feel really bad about that, because that's like the first thing I tell people to do, is like, follow your local politics, but I gotta follow, like, Jason Kessler around, so, you know, like, come on, like, give me a break here.
Anyway.
All right, so they can't have an indoors convention because they have a feeling that it'll get shut down because of COVID.
And right now, like they're restricted to 200, 250 people indoors.
So they can't have a they can't have a traditional convention.
So they're going to have an outdoor convention supposed to happen.
May 8th, a Saturday.
Yeah.
So they're assuming that like whatever restrictions you're under in Virginia are not going to be lifted by that time.
So they're going to have an outdoor convention.
They did this before for a For Bob Good, Congressman in his primary against Denver Riggleman, in which a lot of people said that it was rigged in Bob Good's favor.
And so they're not going to hold it in Richmond or any place like Central in Virginia.
Because like the majority of the population lives in like northern Virginia or like the Tidewater Virginia Beach area.
And then there's there's a decent amount of people that live in central Virginia.
Instead, they're going to have it further out west in Lynchburg at Liberty University, because Liberty has twenty five thousand open parking spots.
That's right.
Parking spots.
We brought it back.
That's the thing we need, is tons of parking.
I've got my copy of The Power Broker by Robert Caro right here on the bookshelf beside me, and if there's anything you know about the history of all the terrible things that happened in the United States in the 20th century, it's all built around parking spots.
So yeah, there's a fractal reality here.
So yeah, again, continue.
Yeah, so I would say that this is a recipe for disaster for the Republican Party of Virginia, because Nobody has received more campaign contributions in Virginia from the biggest gun lobby, Virginia Citizens Defense League, than Amanda Chase.
And the fact that they mobilized 20,000 people to go to a gun rally in Richmond, the idea that they can mobilize people to sign up and become delegates and vote in this convention and drive all the way out into Lynchburg.
And if you need to look at a map of Virginia, Lynchburg is hours away from anything else.
It's over two hours away from Richmond.
It's five hours away from Virginia Beach and Fairfax, the big central population hubs.
Only dedicated people will come out there.
You're making it harder to vote.
That actually makes things better for Amanda Chase.
Um, so I think that she is going to win the convention.
And I'm going to say something very bold.
I think she's going to win the convention on the first ballot.
It's entirely possible.
Like, you know, you create a situation, particularly.
Fucking Lynchburg, like, I mean, you know, let's just start there.
Jerry Falwell's home, not hometown, but you know what I mean?
Like, it's his base, right?
You set up your, like, super hardcore right-wing Republican, you know, kind of Christian, like, like, leaning into that, like, heavy into that far-right base, right?
And this person, like, showing up, doing the thing, yeah, no, I mean, it makes perfect sense to me.
Like, there's no, like, I don't know, like, yeah.
I mean, structural issues, materialism.
We need to think about materialism in this case.
Yeah.
Look now, I haven't even gotten to the bat.
Like, why is Amanda Chase very bad?
You know, you get the idea.
You get the idea right now.
Right.
You get the idea here.
Like, Amanda Chase is like doing bad things.
But like, what makes her bad?
And.
Um, let's let's go.
Let's talk a little bit more about what she did in 2020.
And like on July 4th, 4th of July, she holds a rally at that same place where the parking spot dispute was at.
Oh, God.
This really is a hallowed site now, isn't it, in the history of the persecution of American conservatives.
She's going to be elected president in like 2032, and there's going to be like a shrine there.
Oh, the world is fine.
Everything is good.
We live in the best of all possible worlds.
So this rally is put on by Boogaloo Boy and possible FBI informant Mike Dunn.
And it's it's a rally.
Tell us a little bit about Mike Dunn.
Sorry not to distract you, but you know, Mike Dunn has been in like a Vice documentary about Boogaloo Boys.
He's at the time of this recording, he's like 20 years old.
He's still very young.
He was very briefly in the Marines.
He was very briefly in the Virginia Department of Corrections.
And he wears his Hawaiian print shirt.
He's from the south part of Virginia, Danville, Virginia.
He's done a lot of militia work.
He got into political activism because of the gun rally in Richmond in January.
He's bouncing around.
I'm not sure if he has any other type of backers.
It seems very likely for someone that age to just sort of blow up in popularity so quickly.
Yeah, he he he gains sort of like Internet notoriety because of of like Boogaloo crowds.
And so he holds a rally in Richmond on July 4th.
And Amanda Chase is a speaker.
It's also like themed like Duncan Lemp, the person from Maryland who was murdered by police.
He's one of those one of those figures that gets put next to Breonna Taylor.
So Breonna Taylor murdered by cops in her sleep.
Duncan Lemp had some was probably allegedly violated some gun laws.
I had a shootout with police and died.
Those two people are equal in the But it's a meme, right?
And that's not even to say that Duncan Limp deserved to die.
I'm not arguing that.
I'm saying the meme of Duncan Limp is larger than the reality of Duncan Limp in a way.
I'm of the opinion that people shouldn't get killed by police, but I don't think this is a one-to-one scenario here.
We're allowed to pursue nuance.
So Amanda Chase is questioned by a reporter about the Dunkin' Limp anti-police stance that Boogaloo Boys has, and she says that she supports the police, like she's a back-to-blue type of person, but she also brings up the time she yelled at the police officer here because she couldn't get into her parking spot.
I swear, like, it really does, like, all come back to this.
Like, it's a thing of ego.
It's the origin story.
It's the it's the, you know, it's a Batman down in the well with the bats, you know, sort of situation.
No, no, no, no.
It's it's it's a sled, you know, it's Bruce Wayne coming out of the theater and his parents are told their cars are towed and Batman becomes Batman because he just stands there at that place.
My parents' cars were towed.
I am the darkness.
Actually, if that means he goes after traffic cops, that's probably a net win.
Hey, going after traffic cops?
What is the gateway drug for can't well so be careful.
Switch to the camera after he went after meter maids and it was incredibly stupid.
Like, it was the stupidest way possible.
Like, yes, I'm aware of that.
I watched the Colbert Report segment.
We covered that previously.
Go check out episode five, I think.
Five or six.
What I love about the Amanda Chase stuff is, like, you were like, no, she's really important.
We need to track her.
And I'm like, great.
And so I started, like, Googling.
And, like, there's just not much out there except for, like, kind of recent news.
And then, like, I started kind of looking at, like, YouTube and stuff.
And, like, you can find, like, Videos of her talking on local Richmond TV that have 544 views or whatever.
We are kind of nipping her in the bud here.
If we can expose her now, we can actually make a really positive influence.
And that's why I'm trying to say, let's do this now.
This is the goal, right?
Well, right now, Amanda Chase has a beef with Jimmy Kimball.
because the talk show hosts Because he was making fun of Amanda Chase because she refuses to wear a mask on the Senate floor.
So they encage her.
She has a plexiglass cage that she has for a legislative seat.
She has her own little Hannibal Lecter box in the corner.
Exactly.
This is how you know she's fighting for freedom, you understand.
She won't wear a mask, they put her in a plexiglass cage.
I mean, to be a little bit serious about it, this is what they do, isn't it?
You know, she just parks wherever the hell she likes, and then somebody comes along and says, you can't park there, ma'am.
And that's now become like her being persecuted by the merciless hounds of the state.
And now it's the same thing, isn't it?
No, I won't wear a mask.
Well, then you're going to have to sit behind plastic.
Oh, I see.
I see.
This is what you do to patriots.
I think everybody just heard the the giant pop of a cork that I I'm not opening champagne.
I'm opening a Belgian quad because I'm a beer nerd.
And I had had to save for Christmas and then never drank it.
But I'm drinking it now for Amanda Chase.
So there you go.
What a time, what a time.
Yeah, so she's playing really into that COVID denial.
So November rolls around, the presidential election happens, and she begins to go full election denial.
While at the same time, two of her security guards were arrested For election interference.
Well wasn't she, hold on, back to the COVID denial just for a second.
I saw like a thing where she was interviewed on some kind of thing where it was like one of these like no-name right-wing conservative things that get shared on Facebook presumably, talking about the lockdowns like back in like May or June.
And at that point, she was kind of doing the, the lockdowns are unconstitutional, we can be safe, Walmart gets to be open, small mom and pop shops don't get to be open, et cetera, et cetera.
And I kind of got the feeling that even at that point, she was leaning into the sort of like liberate Virginia sort of stuff.
Did she, I mean, we know we had like Enrico Terrio, Enrico Terrio was kind of involved in that, but was there more involved in that?
Were there more connections that we don't, that I didn't find in my cursory research or, you know?
She's held multiple protests, including two in May that were targeting the governor while he was giving his bi-weekly address on COVID updates and all that other stuff, which he stopped.
Which didn't mean that COVID stopped, he just stopped giving the addresses.
I don't I don't I don't much care for the current governor, and I'm glad he's not up for reelection this year.
Well, you know, don't I believe.
Sorry, I forget.
I believe like the governors in Virginia can only serve one term.
Is that the.
Yes.
OK, that's they can only serve.
I usually don't like term limits, but that feels like a really good policy for Virginia, given your spate of governors.
It's kind of like, yeah, no, I kind of like that.
Just for the governor of Virginia, it makes sense.
Tom Daschle.
Yeah, one term, motherfucker.
Yeah, no, we're good.
So we'll learn term limits depending on, you know, the place.
Virginia?
No, yeah, one term.
That place is fucked up.
Unfortunately, it's one term consecutively.
So the governor that was the governor like during Unite the Right is like the front runner right now.
And I really don't like him.
The only endorsements I will have for governor is please don't vote for Amanda Chase.
Please don't vote for Terry McAuliffe.
Please be your own self and individual here.
We deserve better than these two people.
Agreed, yeah.
But yeah, so Amanda Chase has done like a lot of COVID denial protests, the Reopen Virginia, Liberate Virginia, but those fizzle out like really quickly because the state isn't really shut down because, you know, you can't do this in the middle of the week because everyone has work and then you go, How can you say we need to reopen Virginia when you're also complaining everybody's at work?
Right, yeah.
Yeah, Michigan kind of got the brunt of it, you know, in terms of, like, the liberate crowd, just because, like, there were not, like, sufficient lockdowns, but enough lockdown that, like, there was, like, the response was there because they did enough.
You know, like, it feels like Yeah, I don't know.
It's a complicated kind of situation, right?
Yeah.
I'm going to backtrack here because I should have had notes here.
I just remember all these painful things.
June 1st.
Amanda Chase starts a type of conspiracy being like, Antifa's coming to the Richmond suburbs of Chesterfield.
It was you personally.
You were there standing there, weren't you?
There was absolutely no threat, not even me, of protests happening in Chesterfield.
And it was you and Molly standing there with, like, cardboard signs, you know, like, I'm thinking, like, John Cusack style, like, say anything.
So June 1st is when there is a sunset curfew in Virginia.
Which, by the way, there's an amazing amount of inconsistency between people who are like, the governor needs to lift these restrictions so we can go out to the bar, versus everyone needs to get off the street at sunset or they'll be subject to arrest.
These are two executive orders going on right now, And guess which ones the lockdown crowds care about?
And let me tell you, it's not that everybody needs to be home by sunset.
It's fucking tremendous.
Amanda Chase is going with these conspiracies and claiming she's been speaking to Chesterfield police, which I don't know is true.
But Chesterfield police chief claimed that that was not the case.
And I also want to say that a lot of Richmond police officers live in Chesterfield County.
So like all of this hype is coming in like Antifa is coming to the suburbs.
Like people are just talking about that by the virtue of like this is just now in just the big discussion.
Um because most people are still like working from home and uh the all these protests are happening like nationwide including in Richmond.
So there is a protest that goes all the way to the Lee Monument in Richmond and um the sun is still up it's not curfew time yet but the Richmond police just roll up and immediately tear gas everybody that's there.
There's there's no crimes actually being like perpetrated and The fact that these two things go on at the same day, like Antifa conspiracies coming to the suburbs, and then cops just getting worked up and just firing tear gases into just a completely calm crowd.
This is also like something that even the mayor had to apologize for.
This wasn't like something that the police just like, no, it didn't happen.
Because like, They fired like the the Lee monument is in a residential area.
And the results of this is like like some of the wealthiest people in town like live near the Lee monument.
And they were like, this is not right.
Like we actually saw at this time, like this this this was police abuse.
You you police abused upper class white families.
You're not supposed to do that one.
Oopsie doodles.
Some of the tear gas wafted into our garden.
This will not stand.
Yeah, my brunch was interrupted by your tear gas, sir.
Yeah.
Therefore.
Yeah, so Richmond never has this.
And I don't think anywhere in the United States has this Antifa coming to the suburbs thing, but like Amanda Chase was somebody pushing this in early June.
You haven't listened to enough Jim Poole, clearly, because he had many examples of this, apparently, which he was very concerned about.
Yeah, like the two people in the suburbs of St.
Louis who walked out of their house with guns.
That's all the Antifa I need to see.
Yeah, that's it.
That was it.
Yeah.
But yeah, so we've now established that Amanda Chase loves to push conspiracies.
So when the election rolls around, she loves to push the election was stolen conspiracy.
And she's not just pushing that like these six states here were stolen.
Virginia, which carried Biden by about 10 points, She's claiming that that state was stolen.
And was that even a state that Biden was behind by, you know, kind of like 10 p.m.
on election night?
In Virginia, they don't count absentee or early voting until all the same day voting is cast.
And so with Trump telling everybody, vote the day of the election, don't vote early.
It was overwhelmingly like a Biden victory.
But they couldn't put those results out until everything the same day had already been counted.
So people just look at it and they see Trump is up, but they're projecting Biden to be the winner because they just know that the numbers isn't Isn't going to hold.
So like most media sources are calling Virginia for Biden while Trump is still having a lead.
And so people like just look at that and they're like confused and they don't understand because the media isn't also explaining like why they're coming to this early projection, which is a tragedy.
I wish that, you know, they spent 15 seconds explaining this, but even if they didn't do that, they would still just ignore.
They would just like point to one picture and be like, look at this picture.
The media is lying to us by Putting this picture out on the media.
I think if they were lying to us, they would they wouldn't have their own contradictory evidence right in front of us.
But yeah, that's slightly more clever than that.
There's also controversy in the city of Richmond because for a city council election, there was a lot of discrepancies.
The person who runs the electoral's office, gets a COVID outbreak like immediately after the election, can't process everything.
There's a couple of city council races that just have like weird numbers and like the candidates are upset.
And all the candidates are Democrats that are upset with how those have been running.
And they're calling for the resignation of the person of that office.
And Amanda Chase like sees this as, oh, it's it's only because this person is white.
That's why you're against them.
And it is absolutely not.
It is because they did a bad job in counting the votes.
So she starts going off sort of like a very white nationalist, like they're trying to cancel this official because she's white.
If if she if she was black, they wouldn't have a problem with her.
No, this is clearly something that is based off of performance.
And she starts to suspect that this is part of a greater cover-up for things that are happening in how votes are counted in Richmond, which could somehow tabulate how things are going.
But all the people that are arguing That these elections are rigged, or just like losing in total blowout fashion, predictably.
There was a person who was running against a congressman in a very blue district.
And this guy was losing by, I think, I think by 20 points by the end of the election.
And he was like, he, he refuses to like concede.
And you don't have to concede to lose, but it's just like, come on, man.
Are you really saying this race went that far in that direction?
I just don't see it, man.
So in addition to the six states that are being contested in November and all the way up until The capital siege that she thinks that Virginia is another state that was stolen.
But she's really just priming her audience into not accepting the upcoming results.
And yeah, that's that's gonna that's gonna be fun.
So in joy 2021, where Amanda Chase continues to reject the concept of democracy in Virginia.
So, because she's such a big denier in the results of the election, she speaks on January 6th in Washington, D.C.
But going into this, she's already having a huge staff problem.
So, a week before the Capitol siege, the head of her security gets arrested for domestic abuse, of course.
Of course!
Yeah.
Her senior, the person who's running her campaign and senior staffer... Campaign manager or whatever, yeah.
Campaign manager, yeah.
They both resign, like, on January 4th.
So... They know what's coming.
They got out of the rat sink, fleeing the sinking ship.
That's kind of my impression at this point.
Sorry, go ahead.
Also, I don't have anything hard on this, but I did come across like some I came across this Republican site where this guy who's also a Republican who hates Amanda Chase is talking about her, and apparently she has a reputation, not unlike Amy Klobuchar, for really mistreating her staff.
I don't have any information on that.
I don't know if that's true, but that apparently is something she's known for, even within Republican circles.
I watched some interviews with her, and I'm imagining her throwing staplers.
I can see it.
Allegedly.
I don't know.
I don't know.
My experience with Amanda Chase is that she is very temperamental.
She saw that I was recording the crowd and she came up to me and got in my face and said, Get out of my face, Antifa!
That's gonna work.
That's a great idea.
Yeah.
It's always great to walk up to the person you know is recording and then yell at them.
Yeah.
To get out of their face.
Yeah.
Right.
And also to know Antifa get out of my face.
It's always great.
For me, because I don't deal with these people in person, but it's always great when members of the Right Stuff start talking about me on their podcast.
And they don't name me, but very clearly are talking about me.
Kind of a similar mood.
I also want to specify that I was not dressed in black block.
I was wearing a western floral print shirt with the blue surgical mask on.
I tried to not look like a militant Antifa member about to fight the police, because if you dress like that, the police will assume you're there to fight you and then beat you up.
So so I try not to get beat up by police.
People have their own tactics.
That's just mine.
Yeah, no, I get that.
I get that.
You know, I'm with you.
Yeah.
You should you should start dressing like a boogaloo and then you'd be fine.
Wear the Hawaiian shirt.
I'd have the tactical gear.
I just like the tactic of going up to somebody and screaming, get out of my face.
I think that's fantastic.
Yeah.
You know, you weren't anywhere near them, but they just come right up to you and then say, get out of my face.
Hey, in this pandemic, I'm not getting in anyone's face.
Thank you very much.
Exactly.
Faces are dangerous.
Especially when it's like Amanda Chase who refuses to wear a mask.
Some are more dangerous than others, of course.
Somebody videotaped at a rally, like somebody going up to her handing her a mask, and she's like, what is this?
It's a mask.
You can wear it.
And she just like throws it on the ground like, no, I don't do that.
Like, it's a very comical exchange.
And you could look it up, but I described it perfectly.
She, yeah, she, she, she's quote, and I quote, she doesn't do COVID, even though A couple weeks ago, she had a COVID scare in her office.
But I also believe she may have done that just to not show up at work.
So, like, all the senators were mad at her.
She didn't want to show up that day.
Uh-oh, I can't be here.
I have COVID.
Yeah, okay.
Thank you, baby.
Yeah, wouldn't it be nice if I could do that at my job?
I think I might have gotten COVID.
I gotta go get a test.
I'll be back in four days.
And then, like, the next time.
Yeah, no.
I don't know.
I think I might have gotten COVID.
I gotta go get a test.
And to have that resource available to me.
Yeah, just give me my vacation pay.
Just keep paying me my salary, because I have to protect my constituents.
That's the thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, being responsible.
I imagine this stuff plays pretty well with her supporters, though, doesn't it?
You know, angrily rejecting masks and screaming at Antifa.
I imagine that goes down pretty well.
It does remarkably well.
I'm not a pollster, but I feel like it does.
So let's let's talk about the Capitol siege here.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, we should.
Yeah, please.
So the night before she has a Facebook Live and it is Joshua Mathias, who was arrested in Philly.
He's he's out on bail.
He's in Washington, D.C.
There is.
Was he on?
So he was just arrested.
So he so he still had charges relating to the Philadelphia incident at the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Perfect thing.
He's the head of Vets for Trump.
There is Kelly Sorrell.
She's part of Lawyers for Trump.
You may know her up in Michigan because she started this theory, this claim, that wheelbarrows full of ballots just came in.
I heard the claim in Detroit.
I heard the claim.
I didn't know the name.
There is Stuart Rhodes, the founder of the Oath Keepers.
The founder of the Oath Keepers, yes.
Yeah, just chilling with Amanda Chase.
Jesus Christ!
Oh my God, yeah.
And also Bianca Garcia, who is Latinos for Trump.
Which seems pretty harmless, except that you realize that like, Enrique Terrio is also a part of Latinos for Trump and is like a regional director of like South Florida.
So you have such a cast all meeting up with Amanda Chase the night before and they're talking about Trump should declare the Insurrection Act and how like Vets for Trump, how there's a million of them and they can be called up by Trump at any moment to go and Quell any type of actions for Trump that they need to do.
And so Amanda Chase sets up.
She's not part of like the main speakers over like where Trump gives his speeches.
It's closer to the side of like where the Capitol is and not too far from like where the Proud Boys are like would go on and like do like the initial like siege as well as like the Oath Keepers as well.
So about 1230 a little like Right as the siege is happening, she says that she gets a notification from her security team telling her that she needs to leave the area.
Which, considering, yes, your security team seems to have the leader of the Oath Keepers on it telling you that, yes, we're doing this, like, if that was the case, yeah, it sounds like you would want to get your person out of there.
It sounds a little bit like, you know, we're doing a thing, you should probably leave.
Like, you know, this isn't a case of, Well, we're worried about your safety because someone else might do a thing.
It's like, no, no, no, no.
We're doing a thing.
You don't need to be here for this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, her response from that is initially she's upset with Mike Pence for not going far enough and then like having the certification happening later.
The man who calls his wife mother is not right wing enough.
That's the.
Yeah.
So.
She plays a very delicate balancing game and how there was patriots that were a part of the storming, but the people that were violent were Antifa and she initially points.
She initially points to the Q Shaman as somebody who is Antifa.
even though to the people with any type of recognition here, they know that this is like a diehard Jimmy Dore might buy that but she's like, he's wearing horns on his head, he just has like a demonic look in his eyes, like that man cannot be a patriot clearly Antifa he did a bad thing so he can't be one of us because we're good that's the logic
but if the coup had succeeded, it would be a good thing and they would have Bryce Oliver Oh yeah, absolutely.
She stands by the people that stormed the Capitol were patriots.
She refuses to make any type of apologies on that.
She actually says that the coup attempt was carried out by the deep state, doesn't she?
I found a thing about her saying, yeah, it's the deep state trying to overthrow the government.
Well, boy.
Settle down.
All right.
I think we're going to have to, like, track the exact time that she said that, because a whole lot of people did a whole lot of, like, maneuvering in that, like, 24 hours between, like, 1230 on January 6th.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, sure.
I'm not accusing her of consistency, don't worry.
Oh, yeah.
On the evening of January 6th, she said something along the lines of, Are you back patriots up in a corner?
What else do you expect them to do?
And her colleagues down at the Senate aren't very happy with her.
I mean, they're already not happy with her.
They have to lock her up in a plexiglass.
And she's carrying a gun in her purse.
Every day, even though they have a rule that you can't do this.
And she's intentionally like having anti-lockdown protests just outside of the and like messing up with business that they're they've already kicked her out of the caucus.
And now they've decided to step up their game.
And then after like initial calls for having her resign, they're now like they push to censor her.
I'm sure there was talk on, like, trying to find a method to expel her from the Senate, but that's very difficult to do.
I think that would require, like, a very large majority, and didn't seem like they had the numbers for that, but they did push for a censor.
And she filed a lawsuit, right?
Like, she filed a lawsuit against, for defamation or whatever?
Yes, something like that.
Saying that, like, That the process in which they censored her wasn't consistent to everything else, but it it was.
I'm sure that lawsuit will get dismissed.
No, from what I understand, I was looking into I was just kind of like checking references in news articles from the last couple of days, and it was like that was dismissed in the last couple of days.
So, you know, but again, she filed a lawsuit and like 10 days later, it was like, yeah, fuck you.
That was kind of she.
She also filed another lawsuit against the Republican Party for not having an open primary.
Yeah, I was going to say, she filed two, didn't she?
One against the Virginia Senate and one against the Virginia Republican Party.
And one of them got, I can't remember which one got thrown out, but one of them got thrown out.
Yeah.
I may be misremembering things, I apologize.
I did, again, very cursory research and expected Goat to correct me on these things.
And so, any mistakes that I've made, just blame on Goat.
That's the answer.
Yes.
Damn.
I see how it is.
Truly chase-ian logic.
This is how we treat our guests on I Don't Speak German.
That's how it goes, you know.
Only ones with amazing mustaches, which is, you know.
So, Daniel, speaking about throwing people under the bus while while Amanda Chase is being considered for a censure, she throws her staff under the bus saying that she wasn't given notification by her staff that she was being there was a hearing for her sense and that she needed more time to prepare a statement.
She's horrible.
She also, also at one point on the Senate floor, she says, while like, while the consideration for to have the vote the next day, she says, I just found out my mother-in-law is getting open heart surgery and I just can't prepare statements for this right now.
And then later that evening, She goes on Twitter and starts badmouthing the Republican leadership.
You know, she's too busy to write statements, but she can go in and drag like the other Republican leadership right now.
I mean, I think we all understand like doing productive work is one thing, and dragging people on Twitter is a completely different level of energy.
So this is the one thing where I'm going to give her, I'm going to give her props.
Like, yeah, no, I've been there.
I've been there, Amanda Chase.
It's fine.
I'm with you.
I'm with you on this.
Yeah.
The Republican leadership in the Virginia Senate was not amused by that at all, and any kind of leniency that they had for her had disappeared, and there was just a lot of things negatively said about her from the three leading members of the Republican State Senate.
But now, you mentioned the lawsuits, and I want to bring up her lawyer.
Because her her lawyer is.
Is it Elmer?
Please tell me it's Elmer.
It's not.
It's not Elmer.
His name is Tim.
His name's Tim Anderson, but he has represented Boogaloo boy Mike Dunn after after he got arrested for Open carrying a gun in a park, which in some parks, localities have like the in Virginia, the localities have the right to say you can't have a gun in a park.
This actually like goes back to Unite the Right like to give to say, hey, if you don't want Nazis to show up with a bunch of guns in your park, you can pass a city ordinance saying that.
So.
This one park out in, I think, Newport News does this.
It's just a misdemeanor arrest.
It's no big deal.
But Amanda Chase's lawyer represents him, and this is the same lawyer that's doing these lawsuits against Amanda Chase getting censored.
Censured, not censured.
Yeah, different thing.
Cancel culture.
The worst thing in the world is to be cancelled.
I learned that from watching six hours of CPAC footage yesterday.
It was all about cancel culture.
This lawyer is also tied up in another situation and maybe last year you could have heard about the Virginia state senator who's actually like the majority leader of the state senate, Louise Lucas.
She gets arrested because she's at a protest where a confederate statue is vandalized and then later pulled down after she's left.
And that the Portsmouth Police Department brings up on charges on like all these different city officials, public defenders, that this is like clearly like a retaliatory against the it's the police filing these charges against like officials.
Yeah, just to retaliate against them because they The the city is like, yeah, if people vandalize the statue, like we're not going to press charges on them.
We would like to take the statue down right now, but there's a law saying we can't take down the statue right now.
So while this is going on, it is believed that this lawyer is like communicating with the police department of Portsmouth and encouraging like a recall of Louise Lucas, who is is just like totally motivated to bring these charges against Louise Lucas, and even going so far as like to make make videos to like outline how to do this.
So, like, the Commonwealth's attorney of Portsmouth is not bringing anybody up on charges, so the police just go out and swear warrants against these city officials, city and other elected officials.
And it's totally suspicious stuff.
The police chief winds up getting fired in the end.
None of the charges actually, like, are substantiated.
It looks really suspect.
Louise Lucas is actually, like, suing that lawyer for defamation right now.
I'm not sure if she has a case.
But, uh, she seems to have more of a case than Amanda Chase had against the State Senate for censuring her.
Yikes.
Which is a great case, to be clear.
Yeah.
Defamation is something that requires a lot to win, so I don't think... Especially against, like, a public figure.
Yeah, I don't, I'm not sure if there's a very, very strong case there, but, uh, that's, that is what's going on right now.
So, Tim Anderson also, like, He's a personal injury lawyer, but he does a lot of Second Amendment advocacy, encourages people to get concealed carry license.
But he was also a big part of whipping up a frenzy for the Democrats are going to take all your guns unless you have a big rally in Richmond on the 20th.
Which, look, The base planned a terrorist attack.
I think whipping them up in a frenzy is an objectively bad thing.
Yeah, I don't know anything about the base terrorist attacks or anything related to that.
Certainly not a thing that I have any personal experience with.
I guess, I'm not sure if you covered this before in your previous January 2020 gun rally thing, but the base had planned to do To, like, fire into the crowd at that kind of rally.
We did.
We had David Neuwert on that one.
David Neuwert, excuse me.
So we'll put a link to that in the show notes because we covered it last time and it was a big thing.
Sorry, I was joking around like, you know, I've been threatened by the bass, so it's fine.
You know, of course, you know, it's a...
Yeah yeah it's not really a big deal and you know whipping them up into a frenzy is not me so they didn't order me at the time so clearly it's not a big deal.
I look daniel i forgot which one of my friends.
Um, have gotten which threat from the base at what time?
Yeah, it's hard to keep track.
Yeah, no, no.
It is, it is kind of a difficult thing.
Like, you know, I also have a problem with, like, who has a legal case pursuant at any given time.
That's always kept the question.
So, um, I don't know how much more you have if you have anything else you want to share with us, but I do have a couple of like kind of final questions and to wrap up so.
Again, watching the CPAC footage.
It feels like CPAC 2021 is very they're leaning into sort of the Trump thing.
The election was stolen there.
It seems to me there is a bifurcation in the Republican Party, which is there's this kind of like establishment.
Low taxes kind of like National Review crowd and then there's the the Trump base the Republican base which was the Tea Party base which has always been the thing of like these kind of like radical right-wingers who are like absorbed into the Rush Limbaugh phenomenon and Maybe we'll do a Rush Limbaugh episode.
Although I know Robert Evans is gonna do one and so we'll just probably piggyback on him But what do you think is the future of?
Since you're following politics in Virginia, you're kind of predicting that Amanda Chase will be the nominee for the Republican Party for the governorship this year.
Do you think she'll win?
Is that your read on it?
No, obviously she has the best chance, but as the way the state has been going, there's two really big threats on her getting the nomination.
One is that it gives her this platform it allows her to do a whole bunch of campaign, find a fundraising, um, and continue to like to find more groups that she can like normalize these just terrible things, whether it be like, uh, COVID denial, whether it be election denial, like she's going to continue to push all this.
And the other thing is that Virginia's, uh, governor race is this year in 2021.
And aside from New Jersey, it's the only, uh, big state race.
So it's going to attract a lot of national attention within, I guess, sort of the Beltway crowd.
Especially being Virginia, which I assume has an effect, right?
Yes, exactly.
So whether or not this is successful, and this could also just, even if it is unsuccessful, It will demonstrate how to do a Trump-themed campaign in every state.
So all of these other people who are on the fence on not knowing how to just stay diehard Trump, they are going to look at Amanda Chase in Virginia this year and use her as a blueprint.
So I would recommend everybody else who wants to study how this works should do such a thing.
And presumably, if and when she loses, she will claim that the election was rigged and she was cheated.
She's going to go, you know, she's going to further normalize that as just a standard tactic.
Jack, I feel like you've been listening to me this whole time.
It turns out that people that live on soggy islands can also listen.
The whole island isn't bad.
They got Scotland and Wales.
Yeah, no, no, I mean, it is, it is kind of speaking for the future, right?
It is, it is, like, I feel like watching CPAC and, like, listening to you and kind of looking at kind of what's happening within the Republican Party, like, they really are at a crossroads because they don't know what to do post-Trump, whether they kind of pivot back to sort of the more normalized figures or whether they go just, like, straight QAnon.
And, Watching CPAC, it's like, yeah, they're just going to go straight Trump.
They're just going to reinvigorate that whole thing.
And at some point, if they keep doing that, which they've been doing for 30 years to one degree or another, 40 years to one degree or another, at some point, you're going to get a competent fascist in there.
And I don't know that Amanda Chase feels like a competent fascist to me, but she's definitely normalizing a lot of this stuff.
And that's a great Thing to be thinking about.
It just feels very normal and very, uh, very happy.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Warms the cockles, doesn't it?
Yeah.
I keep saying on Twitter, this gets worse before it gets better.
And, uh, people don't like it all the time when I say that, but, uh, yeah, no.
Biden won.
Congratulations.
No, it's still going to get worse.
It's all over.
Yeah.
Well, you know, so, uh, so goad, um, any, any, any final thoughts you want to give us?
Let's just review here.
Amanda Chase, she is a fake libertarian.
She's opposed to the legalization of marijuana in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
How can you even be that in 2021?
Look at this one!
She is obsessed about that parking spot.
She will This is the thing that I've learned is we need to like GPS coordinate that anybody even walks across that parking spot needs to be connected to the far right that's what that's the one thing that I've learned from this.
It's one of these days you know like there's that that statue of Rosa Parks you know in her in her in her coat sat on the on the bus in in the capital there's going to be a statue of of Amanda Chase in her car trying to get into a space you know it's going to be it's going to be there I'm telling you.
That's also around the place where Owen Stroyer of Infowars has a megaphone yelling, like, we will not comply.
I swear that one little part of Richmond is going to be the downfall of all of humanity.
Yeah, it's going to be your Bavaria.
It's going to be the escalator.
Trump on the escalator.
In a few years, we're just gonna be looking at that parking spot and go, if only that cop had just, like, looked the other way that one day.
And then finally, it's right now that the Republican Party of Virginia is in terrible shape after losing so many elections, having just a vacuum of power and leadership that they don't know which direction to go, and so they're going to lean towards the loudest voice right now, and that's terrifying because the loudest voice is Amanda Chase, and the people around her are just moving further and further to the fringes while, like,
The Democratic Party of Virginia is actually making, as weird as it sounds, Ralph Northam, the governor who's best known for wearing blackface in college, is currently the most progressive governor in the history of Richmond.
Which I don't feel comfortable admitting that, But policy-wise, that's true.
There's a little bit of, like, Barack Obama is the best president of my lifetime sort of phenomenon.
Yeah.
The guy that had to be stopped at the press conference where he was apologizing for wearing blackface, he had to be stopped by his wife from doing the moonwalk.
That guy, he's the best.
I know!
Oh God, I feel like you've just given us a very, very depressing little test tube demonstration of how the whole fucking thing is going to go down.
Yeah.
And also, and also what's your local, you know, if you're an American.
Watch your local politics.
Watch your state-level politics.
Watch your state legislature.
Like, there are, I guarantee you, I'm not saying as bad as Amanda Chase, but maybe worse than Amanda Chase.
There's an Amanda Chase or a Matt Shea in, like, every single fucking state legislature.
I guarantee you.
If you go look deep enough into it.
And they just haven't gotten the public attention yet.
So, uh, follow them now so we can nip them in the bud.
That's the plan.
That's what we do.
Yep.
Although Amanda Chase is not in the bud.
She is growing beyond that.
But we're working on it.
And that's what we're doing here on this podcast.
Yeah, she still has three more years in her Senate seat.
She's still running for governor.
And there's still people that support her.
So as long as that's the case, stay vigilant, I guess.
And I hope people take away that You can't just laugh at her.
She's going to continue to try and build a larger and larger coalition.
The focus is on Amanda Chase being like, ha, ha, ha.
She has an AR-15 that she doesn't even know how to hold right.
Well, most people don't even know another person who's even running for the Republican nomination in Virginia.
That's the thing.
All the attention is towards making fun of her.
Not like coming up with a solution to stop her.
And where have I heard this before?
This is yeah.
She is.
She is definitely using like the same type of like outrage machine against her to like prop up her own personality, which again, which is why I think she's going to win this primary.
Yay.
Goat.
Tell us where we can find you on the Internet.
Hey, you can find me on Twitter.
I'm Goad Gatsby, all one convenient word with no underscores on Twitter.
And you can also just, like, yell at me on the streets of Twitter.
I'll probably hear it.
Did I say the streets of Twitter?
The streets of Richmond.
Jeez.
The streets of Twitter should be on the beam.
Those are the mean streets of Twitter.
If you look at somebody the wrong way, they'll cancel you.
Thank you go to so much for being on the show we really appreciate it please come back and talk about Jason Kessler or anything else you like to talk about yeah we.
Yeah we should do a episode where we say unite the right where are they now.
Down yes i like it yeah great thank you very much for being on and yeah we'll see you again soon.
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