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Controversy grows around a BBC drama that raises wider questions about how dissent, transparency and public scrutiny are being portrayed, as concerns emerge that requesting information and challenging official narratives is increasingly being framed as suspicious. As debates intensify around access to information in the real world, the line between entertainment and influence comes into focus, and what that means for trust, media and the shaping of public perception.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand and Russell Russell Brand trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
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Before that, though, let's get into the propaganda war that governs the United Kingdom.
The UK, as you know, is governed by dear old Kier Starmer.
He's trying his best.
He's got a little gargly larynx.
He's got a sinus voice.
He's a sweet, sweet man.
He's got grooves in his hair.
He's a lovely fellow.
He's trying his best.
The UK are creating state-based propaganda to keep you on the edge of your seat and very near the periphery of your mind.
They've created this new TV show called The Capture that's all sort of hand-wringing and pious and stuff.
Let's have a little look at it because it's one of those shows where they attempt to equate online activism and even punditry with terror.
Let's have a look at it.
It's in particular talking about the idea of anti-migration.
You know in the UK it's not easy to talk about immigration.
You know my position, economic migrants are not in the and of themselves a powerful group.
I'm very very interested to see how the Islamification, if that's the term you want to use, is being used to destabilize native populations and create a generalized deterioration.
I was interested to see Tucker talking about it on his show.
He said any city you go to in the world that's not under Sharia law seems to be in decline.
Do you agree with that?
Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
The UK, the project continues apace.
Me, as you know, I'm not looking to instigate anti-Muslim or anti-Jewish feeling.
I reckon what's really required is democracy and let domestic populations vote for migration policies that please them and cultural and civic rules that are reflective of their own values.
Then, you know, ideologies are less important when you have actual democracy.
Then you can have true variety instead of fake diversity.
Let's have a look at this TV show though, which is normalizing a set of opinions that will likely ultimately be used to restrict your freedom.
The show's called The Capture and here's a, well, it starts off with a scene.
Well, I don't know.
Does this give us enough understanding of the narrative?
Let's have a look.
Shall I shoot that child?
I mean, at least Gov. How often is there any children on those bloody boats is what I'd say.
They're normally working-age fellas, aren't they?
I mean, I mean, he should be aiming at one of the...
Well, I mean, don't shoot anybody, ideally.
But if you are going to do a sniper attack on a migrant boat, shoot one of the many working-age men.
Look, they've come from a war zone anyway.
They should make no difference.
Should make no difference to them.
Listen, I'm being deliberately glib because if the BBC can create dramatic scenarios using actors and props, why can't we create dramatic scenarios using words?
Well, because when we do it, it's misinformation.
Go ahead.
Mum, it looks like Whitlock got hold of those Home Office documents via Freedom of Information requests.
Whitlock, that's the baddie.
Whitlock, like in it, a fictional sort of online pundit, who's very much like the sort of person Joe would probably follow for a chemtrail video, has gone rogue and has started sniping at life boats full of kiddie winks refuging their way to the UK.
I'm a Christian and a human being, and I believe that it's our duty to look after one another, take care of one another, particularly widows and the fatherless.
Them people, they need loving and looking after.
I suppose the real question is: are migrants in the UK being used to create social unrest?
Yes, Jake.
Is this a British show?
Of course it is.
Where did he get the gun?
Where's he gotten that gun from?
Especially with like a like he's got a silencer on it and a sight, a scope.
Yeah, I'd be more interested in that than the Freedom of Information Act documents.
He's got these documents using the Freedom of Information Act.
Where the fuck's he got that rifle?
Where's he got that IR from?
Yeah, good point, Jake.
That's why you need intelligent armed Americans to ask smart questions about weapons.
He made a total of nine requests during his time in prison.
Nine Freedom of Information requests.
It sounds like Whitlock had it in for the Home Office.
He accused the government.
This Whitlock's gonna ruin the Home Office at this rate.
The Home Office, that's our equivalent of the State Department.
We're being asked to the BBC's like inviting you to side with the government and like these deep state spooks against Whitlock.
Look at him, old Whitlock, shooting a child on a lifeboat, asking for Freedom of Information Act documents in prison.
Anyone who asks for Freedom of Information Acts, they're the real terrorists.
Not like these babies, these lovable Sesame Street casts on a lifeboat.
Might as well have Elmo on that lifeboat.
It's an absolutely outrageous way to frame this subject.
He accused the government of covering up the true stats on undocumented migrants.
Something of an obsession for the lad.
Whitlock's 4chan account, ma'am, deactivated last month.
Because Whitlock's on 4chan, the bastard.
Look at him, Whitlock.
He doesn't even use his fingers to operate the keyboard.
Whitlock's using the tip of his cock.
He's a baddie.
That's why no one should be allowed on 4chan.
No one should be allowed the internet.
No one should be allowed Freedom of Information Act requests.
All of us should just settle down and drink estrogen till we're nothing but a puddle of menstruation.
Because sending you the posts that got him kicked off the platform.
Our history books say the last land invasion of England was 1066.
In actual fact, the last land invasion of England was yesterday morning at 9:45 when a boat carrying 40 undocumented male migrants landed in Dungeness, Kent.
That is 44-0.
Fighting age illegal male migrants.
Land invasion is an act of war.
Oh, them screens.
They're being used to study Whitlock.
Like, they've got that massive bank.
Use that to protect the borders.
Then you wouldn't need Whitlock.
Whitlock.
Like, he's really been made out to be a baddie.
He's just some sort of lovely, hopeless hobo.
He's done a little bit of jail time.
But his real ingenuity is that he's managed to scavenger hunt himself and assault rifle in an island where it's very difficult to get hold of a penny whistle.
This is an act of war.
In war, civilians are allowed to fight back.
We're supposed to fight back.
And the next time a boatload of fighting age males lands on our shores, we'll be ready.
Turn the car around.
Turn the car around.
We've got to stop Whitlock with our lady cubs.
You've got a lady car bar of every colour and a nice tubby Chinese one too.
These lady cops have gotta stop Whitlock before he shoots me and you.
Whitlock, you son of a bitch.
Making Freedom of Information Act requests.
Whitlock, you son of a bitch.
We're gonna vaccinate you in your Whitcock Whitlock.
Oh, Whitcock.
How many more people might hypothetically die?
That's all paid for by the license fee, that mad propaganda.
How can we make it look like people that are concerned about migration are bad?
With the lady cops.
With the cast of lady cops, one of every colour.
Like, like, what was that?
Cats one?
Fundercats.
Like the Thundercats ladies.
One, what's like a leopard?
One, what's like a lion?
One, what's like a cheetah?
All against Whitlock, a man with a beard walking by a bush.
Quoting 106, quoting the Bayou tapestry.
1066 was the last land invasion.
Look, the fact is, is people are concerned about migration.
If you've got a democracy, if you've got to listen to them, if you haven't got a democracy, what you do is create propaganda.
So one set of opinions are regarded as evil and racist, and the other side's all sort of lovely and friendly and fluffy.
That tubby Asian lass dressed in green velvet operating a computer.
I don't want to be on their side.
I don't want to be on their side.
I don't mind a tubby Asian lass operating a computer.
But don't tell us that if we're not part of the estrogen crew, we're nothing but crazy racists.
You swankers.
What's this now?
UK considers, oh my god, freedom of information requests can still be useful.
We shouldn't have freedom of information.
Look at that.
Sure enough.
A new campaign to stop people asking for information.
You know who the real villains are?
People that want information.
Why can't we just let the government get on with governing us?
Yeah, let's have a new drama where there's a tubby Chinese lady, a nice tough black lesbian lady, and one pretty white one.
Fuck's sake, people are going to watch this shit.
Put a pretty white woman at the front.
Like, they're still trying to have their cake and eat it, aren't they?
Like, I bet at some point she walks about like in a sort of half-vest thing.
They've got no values, these people.
They lecture you from like, like, as if they've got, like, a moral center.
Their moral center will change like that.
Change like that.
Snap a snap of the fingers.
Next time there's some new craze.
What is it we care about this week?
Right, let's do a drama about that now.
Use bastards, man.
And also, by the way, they don't make shows unless there's money in them.
They're just like all they want is money.
Everyone's sort of sat around like, right, how can we help now?
There's no money in it.
Oh, fuck off.
Should we do something else then?
Right, well, fuck off.
Stop pretending to care and fuck off the lot of you.
We're not paying for you with our taxes no more.
Do you know, believe this?
It's Whitlock.
Do you know?
Whitlock?
Just some geezer who's like, we had a hard life.
It's time for jail time.
He scavenged himself on AR.
Whitlock, you bastard.
How dare you?
How dare you ask for information?
How are they going to tell us that it's bad for us to have information?
Let's see how they ingeniously frame this.
Right, so Freedom of Information Act requests are, as the name suggests, the ability of ordinary people to write to government departments and ask for money.
But look what it says here.
It's a useful tool for journalists and researchers.
Yeah, journalists and researchers.
Not Whitlock, you stinking pervert.
Trim your pubes.
Whitlock hanging around by a bramble bush with a rifle trying to shoot the one migrant baby in the last 10 years.
Researchers digging into matters of public interest that private companies or state entities would prefer to keep under wraps.
It's therefore alarming that government officials in the UK are raising concerns that intelligence agencies from hostile states, notably China, could be using them to gain access to sensitive information.
You're not using it.
You're getting no sensitive information anyway.
It's really hard.
I've tried to use it to see how the 77th Brigade spying on our Russ.
What they do is they turn it into a massive drag.
They turn it into a massive, massive drag.
Give us that information that's ours.
Firstly, by the way, the information's already yours because you pay for the government.
It's your money.
Yeah, but China.
It's the Chinese.
And do you know who's behind China?
It's Wicklock.
Witlock's there running China.
He's running state communism.
To gain sensitive information, the officials told the Financial Times they've picked out a pan of FIA requests related to defense and security matters.
Oh, okay.
Why don't we ask them for the secret information?
And then we can bring down Britain.
Britain's irrelevant to China.
Which pointed to involvement of Beijing.
FIO legislation requires the person requesting information to provide their real name, physical address, proof of identity, not mandatory, making it possible for the request to disguise who they are.
Although only unclassified material can be right, right?
So it's unclassified.
So that's the end of that.
But officials are worried that snippets could be pieced together by the crafty Chinese, those bastards.
Oh, let's put together these snippets and then we can take over Britain.
Build a bigger picture that amounts to sensitive information.
FOIA campaigners are rightly skeptical.
They point out civil servants already blocked requests.
What a lot of bollocks.
What a lot of stinking bollocks.
All right, let's see what GB News is saying.
GB News discussed tactics used by the BBC and how previous FOIA requests show the UK government as long liaised with mainstream media to embed approved messaging in dramas, soap operas, nudging public opinion.
Because you might think it ridiculous that a TV drama is presenting political information in a way to create a certain impression among the public.
But you know that in your country, Hollywood has long liaised with the deep state.
That's why for ages of all those positive movies about CIA stars, every major movie star at some point plays a CIA agent, don't they?
Baldwin and Cruz and everybody, some handsome, swarthy CIA man.
And in my country too, it much sort of more low-budget British sort of like, oh, mate, illsya propaganda.
Here's a GB News, a British media company, revealing that for a long time, and in particular during the COVID pandemic, propaganda was embedded within dramas, not just news.
We all know that news is nothing but propaganda, but they also do it within, you know, dramas.
Like in EastEnders, it's a very popular, dour as fuck British soap opera, which the Americans I don't think would tolerate.
Do you know what EastEnders is, Jake?
I don't.
Even the theme tune.
You don't even know, you've never even heard that.
I've heard of it.
But it's like, all right, EastEnders follows the activities in Albert Square, and it's built around the Queen Victoria pub.
And it used to be the good families like the Beale family and the Fowlers and dirty Den Watts and Nick Cotton, the baddie.
He was a brilliant baddie, Nick Cotton.
All right, more, shut up.
And like, but no cursing or whatever, because it's only at seven or eight o'clock in the evening.
So it's sort of like somewhat unrealistic on that basis.
But during COVID, EastEnders went to be all these like working class folks from the East End of London.
Suddenly were like, like people weren't taking the vaccine.
So they had like a character in East Enders like, I don't know if we should take these vaccines.
I'm a bit worried.
They ain't had time to experiment properly.
Oh yeah, are you a scientist, are you?
Well, no, but it stands to reason.
Shut up!
Shut up!
Take your fucking vaccine!
Like they sort of found a way of building it into a plot for EastEnders.
Really messed up and crazy, and we'll show you that in a moment.
But here's GB News to edit.
East Enders, you don't have an equivalent of that in your country.
You wouldn't tolerate it.
You wouldn't tolerate something that dour being on a TV set.
You would have, I don't know, all your soaps, like Dallas, Dynasty, Santa Barbara, or what you have now, Landman or whatever it is.
That's what we have known it.
Yellowstone, Landman.
This is the first time I've ever heard of this particular series called The Capture.
Apparently, it's quite popular, but of course, it's gone woke down the line.
The first time I heard about it was actually last night when people started tagging me in this video.
And a friend of mine called Lander on X saying that the BBC is showing a character submitting FOI requests to the Home Office, considering that completely extreme, which I find absolutely absurd.
That is my daily work using the Freedom of Information Act for journalism on exactly these kinds of topics.
So many others do it too.
And ironically, I have sent an FOI and an SAR subject access request to the BBC asking about narrative.
It's Whitlock.
We found out that Epstein Island, it wasn't Bill Gates and Bill Clinton and all powerful deep state oligarchs.
It was some guy from Norfolk.
Whitlock is who it was.
Just some lone operator is running everything.
Hey, did you actually know that the Bay of Tapestry was lie?
It was actually sold together by migrants.
Inspiration.
You might remember, Bev, that we did a segment not too long ago, I believe it was last year or the year before, where I submitted FOI and it exposed back in 2021 emails between the BBC,
Channel 4, Sky, CEOs, and the government liaising with each other to embed vaccine messaging within soap operas, essentially public health nudges via entertainment.
And the same playbook is now being used here.
Interesting.
Okay, here are some.
Here's some information about vaccine propaganda being in EastEnders.
Officials at the Department of Health have been in contact with the DCMS to query Department of Culture Media to query whether ITV would be willing to assist with pro-vaccine messaging in their content.
As well as iterating public health messages about the safety of vaccines, DH are keen to engage with hard to reach groups.
Poor people, poor people and ethnic minorities.
In particular, like it says here, lower social, economic, and beat black.
And I don't know what that stands for anymore.
Minorities, minority ethnicities.
In particular, DH has proposed writing to ITV to ask them to consider including vaccine storylines in their soaps.
Whilst we do not think it would be appropriate to write to ITV on this matter, given the importance of broadcasters, operational and editorial independence, yeah, because obviously when you know, either when something's funded by the state like the BBC or funded by advertising like ITV,
they are incredibly independent editorially.
You may wish to explore with them whether they have already have plans.
Do you already have plans to develop content?
We thought you had plans.
Look how it works.
Sly sophistry.
I'm sure you're already doing something about vaccines, aren't you?
An initial readout from ITV's meeting with BEIS indicates they are planning soap storylines related to the environment and climate change.
Oh, you wankers.
They may be amenable to the idea of something similar.
So there you go.
That's how it works.
These heavily redacted documents show that as early as February 2020, more than a month before the first lockdown, DCMS met Dame Caroline McCall, the chief executive of ITV,
to test the possibility of pro-vaccine messaging.
So, oh man, this is how it works.
You last spoke with Dame Carolyn and Magnus Brooke on 5th of January and the discussion covered a general update on the impacts of ITV business in light further C19 measures.
Since that meeting, ITV have noticeably increased their engagement across DCMS and Whitehall.
Recently, officials with the Department of Health have been in touch with DCMS about potential assistance from ITV in relation to pro-vaccine messaging.
They make it sound so sort of cozy and gentle and kindly, but really what we're discussing now is propaganda.
Pro-vaccine messaging did end up in soaps.
In one episode of EastEnders, Patrick Truman told Suki Panasa, I guess these are, of course, characters from the show, this character, Patrick Truman, felt like he'd won the lottery after getting his second vaccination.
In the same clip, Karen Taylor is accused of being an anti-vaxxer for worrying that developed it too quickly.
But what if he causes myocarditis and miscarriage?
Shut up, you bitch!
Lord Frost said, if Lord Frost, look at how our country works, we still have people called Lord Frost going around making decisions.
Well, we can't trust the people.
Look at them.
They're basically a bunch of hairy, stinking witlocks.
Lord Frost, tell us how to think correctly.
Actually, Lord Frost's on our side.
If, as it seems, the government quietly work behind the scenes with major broadcasters to shape opinions and compliance on the draconian COVID-19 measures, this is extremely worrying.
Sorry, Lord Frost, you're a good lord.
You're like Jack Frost.
You're like Frosty the sexy snowman.
This is extremely worrying.
In particular, it's troubling to learn there may have been a coordinated effort to hide positive messaging about lockdown measures into fictional storylines and to target them at particular groups.
Actions like that blur the boundary between government and civil society and private life.
Yes, and power and control.
There is no line.
What it does is exposes the fact that it's not that it blurs the line, it's that there isn't a line unless you have faith that it's there.
There's a total 360 system of absolute control that is concealed in order that you don't oppose it.
That's the reality of it.
Broadcasters have a great opportunity to support the nation during a time of...
Hey, we've got an opportunity for you.
Could you do as you're fucking told and do some vaccine propaganda for us?
Of course we will, because we're basically dependent on the same system.
It's also vital that key messages, for example, staying at home, reaches particularly younger and middle-aged men.
Anyone who's daring to assert a little bit of their own free will.
I've actually been made a bit angry about that.
So there you are.
Whether it's propaganda about...
In fact, you can use this as a litmus test.
If you're on the fence about where to stand on migration, look at what the propaganda is telling you to do and don't do it.
Generally speaking, compassion ought be a super significant and preeminent characteristic in any individual.
We're meant to love one another.
But do you notice again and again how compassion is used to assert control?
Because we want to protect the elderly, everyone take this vaccine.
Because we want to protect the vulnerable, everyone stay in your house.
Because life is sacred, shut your mouth and get indoors.
They're using drama now to render the idea that civilians requesting information from the government is somehow malign and malevolent.
You are the baddies.
Note even the semiotics.
After all their high talk, how did it boil down?
This white guy with a beard is a baddie because he's concerned about migration.
And this sort of Wonderful Eastrogen Avengers band are the goodies.
And that's what you that's how we want you to see the world.
And we're charging you for the privilege because that's a license fee.
That means mandatory tax, basically a mandatory tax to pay for state media.
That's their concoction.
That's their purview.
And if you disagree with it, you're racist and you are a terrorist in the instance of poor old Whitlock.
Whitlock, the chuckling puppeteer behind Epstein Island.
Whitlock, there he is again, hiding in the corner, sipping adrenochrome, asking for freedom of information act requests.
Whitlock flying across the sky, releasing heavy metals to the population.
Oh, Whitlock.
Oh, Whitlock, they're causing the war in the Middle East.
Yep, that's the problem.
People, normal civilians, concerned citizens asking for information from a government they fund.
That's the problem.
But that's just what I think.
Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and chat?
Have you noticed how propaganda is becoming more insidious?
Have you noticed, in fact, that entertainment is little more than propaganda?
That's what that kind of rancor is that emerges when like a franchise like Star Wars goes all wrong.
Because at first, Star Wars was, let's use our understanding of psychological archetypes to create a brilliant and accessible sci-fi drama.
Then it became, let's use the same materials to create just an agenda that's about sort of civics, like badly, badly researched civics and woke ideas, godlessness, foolishness, madness, banality.
But that's just why I think let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
You filthy, gorgeous band of Whitlocks.
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You sexy bastards.
Alright then.
Let's do another thing.
Watch the EastEnders bet, mate.
The East Enders.
Oh, fuck, the East Enders.
I said 21.
It'd be so funny.
Oh, yeah, yes, dude.
Thank you.
Sorry, I forgot about that.
You won the lottery?
Well yeah, you could see that again.
Got the second vaccination?
Already, good for you.
I'm doing my first one later today.
I'm calling it my superpower.
Made me that bit more invincible.
Ugh!
Oh!
You filthy, stinking, disgusting propaganda.
Made me that bit more invincible.
Science is a wonderful dealer.
They put him in front of her.
He's standing in front of the lottery thing and he's all sort of moving around and grooving.
In all reality, there's a good chance he'd be writhing on the floor having a heart attack.
Oh, well, viewing me.
Oh, don't tell me.
You're one of them anti-vaxxers.
You must admit, they pushed it through too quick.
Labrettes, that's what we are.
Nah, I ain't having any of that rubbish pumped into me.
Punning me fags, please.
But she'll smoke her cigarettes freely as a free citizen.
How dare she?
How dare she smoke or be poor or white or working class?
She should be being vaccinated right now.
Punning me fags, please.
Ten years' time.
Well, we know now it's myocarditis, it's pericarditis, it's miscarriage, it's infertility.
To us in five, ten years' time.
Well, let me tell you what I do know.
Last year, I was lying on our hospital bed, gasping for breath.
Thought it was all over.
I wouldn't wish that on the world said anything.
COVID might have killed you faster than them fags.
Some of the best scientists have worked on this, but you reckon you know better.
But the best scientists in the world, why?
Anthony Fauci.
You should see the great work you've done with HIV just a couple of years back and with beagles.
What are you saying?
Don't trust the government.
Don't trust the media.
Wait a minute.
Hang about.
We're on the media right now.
Wait a second.
I'm reading a script that was sent to me by the bleeding government.
Wait, this is getting a bit meta, isn't it?
Why don't you shut up, woman?
I don't need none of this meta-analysis.
I don't trust them scientists.
They're no bloody good.
Give us another bit of snout, would you?
Or them snouts will kill you quicker than that, man.
And you know better?
How's that PhD working out for you, Karen?
Yeah, well, I've got plenty of.
You ain't got a PhD.
You never went to university.
You're working class.
Shut your mouth.
You're no Baron Whitlock.
Look at that.
The whole agenda is make working class people look stupid.
They're not educated.
They're terrorists.
If you've got an opinion...
And look at that.
The other thing they tried to stripe him up for was asking for information.
Don't try and educate yourself either.
Whitlock's trying to go to community college and learn something.
Get out of here, Whitlock.
You shitbag racist son of a bitch.
Get down to Dover with an assault rifle that you've somehow put together out of lolly sticks and Cadbury's chocolate and tea bags and shoot yourself a baby migrant you fucking racist scums.
I've got plenty of time to think about it, you know.
You're much younger than you.
Oh well you want to worry about getting to my age if you carry on thinking like that.
After everything we've been through this year, can't help some people.
Brilliant.
That's a very good bit of propaganda.
They collectively shamed an individual into getting the vaccine.
Like imagine if you're watching that, you're at home, you're watching that shit for a start, so your life's in a terrible state.
You're eating crap filthy food.
You're being lied to, you're exhausted.
Oh yeah, spokes I better get the vaccine.
I don't end up like Karen.
Or far worse yet, Whitlock.
I was about to make myself a rifle and go and shoot some migrants down to the coast.
But now I think I'll go get myself a Pfizer vaccine in my lobby.
Let's puff up my vagina.
All nice and massive till it's like a punch bag, all full of Moderna.
Here, give us another one.
Can't you inject me in my perineum?
I've still got a bit of skin you ain't injected with a vaccine.
Can't we get one of Bill Gates' micro fucking nick combs?
Cover that stuff in mRNA and slap it into me larynx so that I can't even think or talk.
Now you're speaking, Sien W man.
Right, don't use that in a short without a fucking source material.
Now you're speaking.
Oh, my God.
You dressed him right now.
This is amazing.
It's just right there out in front for everybody to see it.
And to think it's anything other than propaganda, you would actually have to do it.
You can really see the BBC live propaganda.
Like you can sort of see.
Oh, yeah, that's all it is.
How much more of this stuff will be revealed as we continue to pay attention?
Let us calmly masturbate to pass the time.
I'm really angry about that.
All right, okay.
Yeah, so you'll put that in there somewhere, huh?
I'll put that in there.
That's so funny.
I'm going to open with that, I think.
I can't wait to edit that one.
It was good, man.
It comes from a real place of anger.
That's when it's funniest.
Yeah, yeah.
The passion.
Years of build-up.
Yeah, that's hitting quite a lot of buttons are getting hit there.
He made his rifle from Cabby's chocolate.
That's the best thing because it is a Brit, that's all we've got.
It's chocolate.
So good.
Sweet Karen, she's just trying to raise her kids, go and get some milk from the store.
Oh, she's not doing anything wrong.
All she done was asked the question.
Teams are developed it a bit too quickly.
Get the fuck out of here.
How dare you?
What a stupid woman.
Oh, my God.
It's really, really, and that, yeah, it's a sort of an interesting insight into how evil operates.
It doesn't, it's like everyone involved in the whole process, just some actors, some bureaucrats, everyone just telling you they're trying to help everyone involved.
Put their education down.
Oh, have you got a PhD?
I was just asking a question.
Now it's time for you to maybe educate me.
And instead, they just dress it down.
You stupid cunt.
Get the fuck out of the show.
My mum was a prostitute.
I didn't have no opportunity to go, Collins.
You should have thought about that.
You and your law slag.
Your mum's just like, fuck off.
Oh, my God, dude.
God, God.
That's the perfect show for it to be.
This is brilliant.
That's what they think of.
That is a show by the BBC talking about the scummy part of London from their perspective.
The BBC's literally situated in London.
And they're like, well, here's the shitty end of London, the East End.
And that just shows their contempt for those people.
It's literally, like you said, Russell, written by the government.
My script is from the government.
It's so funny.
But the UK is not all propaganda.
If you try to speak for yourself online, you'll be arrested and flung in jail.
Let's have a look at this man being arrested at an airport after he's got back from Holiday.
I'm not even sure what he's done.
Let's have a look.
Everybody, six on police locking Lee up for Facebook posts.
What an utter joke.
Can you believe it?
Everyone's on police here, so if you could count a bit better, that'll be funny what you're posting, wouldn't it?
It's a joke.
Utter joke.
Absolute, utter pathetic joke.
Prove it.
Show me, of course, what is what is this?
Well, there is some proof apparently.
All right.
Are you satisfied?
Spoiling people's holidays?
All for the Facebook post.
Let's say this allegation is to prove.
How is he satisfied that people offended by what's been said?
What's all weird and ask for?
Oh dear, that's not what it was for, is it?
Everything's gone all wrong.
Like when he was stat, well, perhaps it was.
Perhaps the police force was always established with the intention of we can then decide who we criminalize and who we don't criminalize.
And maybe all that's being revealed is our nostalgic ideas about the good old Bobby on the beat, heartbeat, happier times, just a bobby on a bicycle protecting the community.
It's interesting because most people in the police, probably including those police officers there, I pray got involved because they out of a sense of civic duty and compassion and want to protect people, really good values.
But, you know, what did he do?
Probably did some like at worst, it'll be like an offensive post.
Unless the post is, meet me here, bring these ingredients for bomb making.
We're going to fuck up these people.
Unless it's that, it's not a matter.
That's already a crime in siting violence and planning sort of terror.
That's what do they call that?
What do they call that?
It's sort of a word that's a bit like contrition, sedition.
I don't know.
Anyway, but I don't know.
There's a lot being revealed.
A lot is being revealed.
These are revelatory times.
Essex Police have paused their facial recognition program because it was in it.
The cameras, I think they just work better on black people's faces.
So, in a way, it was a continuation of the type of policing they were doing before.
And now, and now this.
Belgian state radio hosts smash up a statue of Jesus.
Why?
Why, lads?
Why, Belgium?
Oh, no, that's not good.
That's not good.
That's not good.
Oh, well, Belgium, tinting, chocolates, poirot.
Now this.
Okay, hey, if that's not driven you to the very edge of addiction, then perhaps nothing will.
Perhaps you have a good constitution.
But me, I live forever on the periphery of addiction, as do Dave and Joe.
That's why it's time now for what about you got to play the theme she's got to at least ring for your guitar.
Yeah, reach for the guy.
Time now for crack on with Dave, Joe, and Russell.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
This week on Crack On, we're going to talk about some aspects of, as Joe says, we do use 12-step literature, even though we are not affiliated with any 12-step group.
And it seems to me today to be that we're talking about willingness, steps six and seven, and prayer.
Joe, did you select this, my dear friend?
Yeah, I selected this.
When we spoke the other day, I'm sure you referred to this as the bedevilments.
I don't know if it was the fact.
Is it when you're restless, irritable, and discontented that it's bedevilments?
Or is it when you're in a character defect?
I wanted to ask you that question earlier, but I forgot.
So we can do it now because we're here.
Restless, irritable, and discontent are, I think, more generalised.
And I think that comes out of the doctor's opinion.
The bedevilments, Dave, will have to hand because we've been reading that recently.
It's on page 52.
I now know, Dave.
Have you got it there with you, mate?
Which is pretty cool of how that happened this week.
I know we can't share who, but me and Russell went to go help a guy.
And like in it, I feel like God showed up and told us, hey, read the bedevilments, which is exactly what he probably needed to hear at that time, I think.
God told Dave to read the bedevilments.
We were doing the 12-step thing, and I didn't have no idea what to talk about.
But I kept going, I'm going to read the big book.
I'm going to read the big book.
And there was resistance to reading the big book.
But eventually when the resistance yielded, I realized that I didn't have no, I didn't know, I didn't have a pre-i predetermined idea of what to read from the big book.
And I just went to Dave, what should I read?
And Dave went, bedevilments.
And like, so it was very in the moment.
And in the moment, I think, is where we find our Lord, you know?
Yeah.
In spontaneity.
We trust him.
12-step calls, like when, or when you're working with someone just in that, trying to stay in that prayer mode, that sixth sense where you're just asking God, okay, give me the words.
Like you're praying in your head and you know that no amount of your cleverness or your skill is what's going to help this person.
This person needs a spiritual experience.
I mean, that's the main object of the whole 12 steps anyway, is to help you find a relationship with God.
And so like you're in that prayer mode of just going, okay, God, just give me the thoughts.
And I feel like that happened there.
You want me to read it?
Yeah, I do, actually.
Okay.
It's out of page 52 out of the big book.
And in this chapter, it's talking, it's we agnostic.
So it's talking about how we need a relationship with God, some power greater than ourselves.
It talks a lot about laying aside prejudice and just expressing some sort of willingness to have whatever your conception is at the time, some sort of willingness.
And it says this, we had to ask ourselves why we shouldn't apply to our human problems the same readiness to change our point of view.
We were having trouble with personal relationships.
We couldn't control our emotional natures.
We were a prey to misery and depression.
We couldn't make a living.
We had a feeling of uselessness.
We were full of fear.
We were unhappy.
We couldn't seem to be of real help to other people.
Was not a basic solution of these bedevilments more important than whether we should see new drills of lunar flight?
Of course it was.
When we saw others solve their problems by simple reliance upon the spirit of the universe, we had to stop doubting the power of God.
Our ideas did not work, but the God I did did.
I like the word bedevilments because I like how literal it is.
Bedevil, like the devil is in you when you are experiencing these things, governed by your emotional nature.
There's a very pagan idea too, of course, like that the humors would be on you, like, you know, the God of Mars is with you.
Aphrodite shot by Cupid's arrow, Eros, that when your emotions are on you, there's nothing you can do about it.
The Stoics, the Stoicism is the idea that you can, through sort of will, martialed will, handle it.
And Christianity is through following Christ, by discipling him, you can similarly overcome him, even in spite of a level of fallibility and vulnerability that Stoicism obviously don't afford you.
Stoicism suggests that you have of your own metal and from your own power sufficient resources to confront him.
I thought it was a very good choice to use because in a way, some people's addiction issues, and I'm thinking about my own when I came in and Joe's and what I know of yours there, Dave,
is it's like if someone's a using drug addict or an alcoholic where you can sort of just point to example after example of well, yeah, but hold on, you got drunk and then you beat that bloke up, or you got drunk, then you lost that job,
or you were found taking drugs at this thing.
Like I was such a delightful little pamphlet fodder, like I was the sort of drug addict that you could use to sort of go, see, look, that's what drug addiction looks like.
Because look, he's getting these opportunities and he's ruining them because he's literally, look, taking drugs now.
It's not like it was subtle or anything.
It's like, we've got to get out of here.
You're taking drugs.
You're taking drugs at school.
Stop it, you fool.
But then some people are almost by virtue of their abilities.
It's more masked.
The addiction seems somehow secondary.
But those descriptions of the emotional ailments and failings lets you know.
It's not like it didn't say the bedevilments are not puked up, got his dick out.
The bedevilments are like can't control his emotional nature.
Useless.
Useless.
Feelings of uselessness.
That's despair, innit?
Like that despair that I, you know, I know that I've had that in the last 48 hours.
So, Joe, how do you want to square that with what you want to read?
And with, you know, I see you're going to read something from page 76 of the same text.
I was just reading over those bedevilments and like that's the that's what gets you into these character defects, isn't it?
All that feeling of like despair and you're trying to like hold it together and then the most basic thing can just send you over the edge and you can become intolerant and angry and kick off and cause harm, you know.
And like, mate, I've been in it the last like couple of weeks, I guess, that feeling of uselessness and just really a heightened state of agitation through doing a lot of travel and stuff and just doing too much and then trying to plan too far into the future.
And then in the end, it feels fucking, I just get into complete despair so fucking quickly, man.
And I don't know, mate.
I don't know.
I guess this is the six and seven stuff in it.
The only bit of reprieve I've had this week from this stuff is doing a step five of a sponsee.
And it was a real relief, you know?
A real relief.
It's like your higher purpose again kicks in and you're back on the path.
But it comes around, mate, doesn't it?
It comes around again.
It's like you have a big breakdown over some little bit of bullshit.
I had a guy with my mum as well over the quality of coffee at home when I went to visit them off the back of a trip to Morocco to Dubai.
Like I was tired, but I've done a lot of traveling.
And then when I got there, I just wanted aware of it when I got there.
And I was deep in prayer every morning, been to a few meetings.
And I'm thinking, I can handle it.
I'm tolerant.
And then the fucking most basic thing sent me over the edge.
Mum put a little bit of sugar in my coffee and I went mental.
I was like, oh, you don't care.
You don't listen.
Why don't you just pour vodka in it next time?
I went mad.
Do you know what I mean?
Of course, I got her really upset and that.
And the reality of that is, I was fucking binge eating when I was away in Dubai.
Because again, it's me being all discontented.
I'll tell you what, though, I meant to say this.
I had a funny interaction on the beach in Dubai, right?
Tech stuff kicks in as well, doesn't it?
Do you know what I mean?
You're looking for anything to get out of yourself.
And for me, it was like, there's nice birds here.
I'm going to crack onto one.
My mate Nav goes, she's looking at you over there with her sunglasses on.
I was looking, oh, yeah, is she?
And I thought, when was she out on the beach?
On the beach in Dubai, yeah, by the Dubai Marina.
There was no drone strikes whilst I was there.
It was quite safe, I found.
Although we did get a few alerts going off on the phone.
Anyway, I've got, he says, you should go and talk to her.
And I thought, I didn't think she was looking, but I didn't want to look like a bottle job.
So I thought, well, I'll go over and I'll say hello.
I've walked over there, crowds down a little bit.
Right, love, you speak English.
And this geezer jumps up and goes, no, but I do.
Straight on me.
I've thought, you the fuck this guy.
I don't want to talk to you.
Anyway, he goes, it's Joe, innit?
Stuck his hand out.
I was like, yeah.
I was like, where do I know you from?
He goes, no, you probably don't.
Just been watching you on the podcast.
I thought you were in Morocco.
It's funny, man.
Alex, his name was.
He's nice geezer.
I spoke to him for a little while.
Been for a divorce, moved to Dubai.
Been there 12 years.
He loves it.
He's right against the vaccines and all that.
Loves your stuff.
Our stuff.
Yeah.
That's brilliant.
I love Joe getting recognised on a beach in Dubai.
That's uplifting.
What happened with a bird?
Yeah.
No, it turns out she didn't speak very good English anyway.
So I think she was Russian maybe.
And she was maybe just looking in our general direction.
Or maybe she was looking, but there was a language barrier.
You got sidetracked like Pinocchio.
I did.
It was quite funny.
Nav said to me, look, I told you when you go to the beach in Dubai, you always recognise someone famous.
He said, but look, it was you what got recognized.
You were that.
Yes, Joe.
It's funny, man.
Anyway, how that ties into character defects, don't know.
Maybe the ups and downs and whatnot and, you know, jetting about and just trying to find some sort of opportunity and whatnot, I guess.
I heard, I've got some good stuff.
I heard one time in a meeting, a person go, I'm addicted to myself, a person said.
And I like, I like it.
And if you think about that, think about, like, say when you're actually in it, in a moment of the bedevilment, say, governed by your emotional nature, feeling of uselessness.
Like, I wonder what the endocrenal or neurological correlative of that is.
I wonder if it's just like what it is in terms of your circuitry of your mind in the production of whatever hormones, what's ever happening in your endocrenal system.
But I know that it's a sort of a closed circuit.
I feel that.
I feel like it would be a closed circuit.
And so when you do a step five with someone else, step five is when someone reads you their history of resentments and problems, which could be as discursive and as deep as this happened to me when I was five.
This happened to me when I was seven.
This happened to me.
The way that I do it these days is I get the, because this is how I was taught to do it by the great Tim M, is like, they write down loads of stuff.
They write like you write down, this is how to do a step four, five, the old school big book way.
You start by writing down everyone you knew between zero and five.
Okay, well, just that's my mum and dad, Vera and Don, my grandparents, they're next door neighbours, like grandparents, you know, you're not going to know that many people were between naught and five, are you?
Then between five and ten, you've got now to all the people at your school and you can you notice that 10 to 15, you start to know more people, 15 to 20.
You write them all down.
You can probably think of a resentment for probably anyone.
Like me, if I remember someone, it's probably because I resent them.
Probably like, yeah, I didn't like them.
I didn't like their sausage dogs.
Vera and Don had them sausage dogs.
Or like, you know, like, there'll be like, obviously when you're a little child, there might be some sort of sexual abuse or whatever, but it might just be someone was a bit mean to you or something.
I don't know.
Anyway, then once you've done that, you'll get a sort of a scope of what your life is.
You're also, in addition to people, you do places and things, even concepts like the concept of marriage or, in my case, the government, the media.
Big, vast sort of institutions that I resent.
Then you write down, you have to, when you do it with someone like Tim, he'll make you, in the second column, he'll make you be very specific about what you resent.
I resent the government.
Why do you resent the government?
Then you've got to say, you can't just go, they control me.
You've got to write down something that if it was a film, we'd be able to see it.
So like if you resent the media, it's like, cause they lied about me when they said this.
If it's Glenn Dainty, it's because he won the egg and spoon race when I was five years old at school.
You have to be able to see the scene.
You can't just go, cause he doesn't love me or he was mean to me.
Because otherwise you're still in your projection of reality and your projection of reality is the problem.
Now Dave thinks that the third column, where it identifies the seven areas of self that have likely one or all, or you know, or between one and all of these seven areas have been triggered whenever there's a resentment.
And those areas are, pride, what I think others think of me self-esteem, what I think of myself, personal relations the script I give others, sexual relations, as above, but pertaining to sex ambitions, what I want in general, security I think that should mean what I need to be okay and pocketbooks, or finances self-explanatory, does it affect you monetarily or financially?
Sometimes you'll write out a resentment and you'll realize that every single one of those areas is affected.
Like, oh my god, it does affect my pride, it does affect my self-esteem, it does affect my personal relations, my sexual relations, my ambitions, my security, my pocketbook.
That's like when you've got that you think, no wonder, like that i'm in this state because every area of self is affected.
Now Dave believes that the third column, that's the one where the seven areas of self are listed, is the most important column, whereas i've always thought the fourth column, which is essentially where you're asked eight questions am I making a mistake?
What mistakes am I making?
And that could be saying like oh, you know, i'm clinging on to the past or i've made this person a god, or actually I lied to that person earlier and thinking about it, I did ask them to come around my, you know.
I mean like it's weird, stuff like that you've not admitted to in order to maintain a resentment.
Then it asks, am I being selfish, self-seeking or dishonest?
Then it asks, what are your defects of character?
A list of flaws somewhat comparable to that list in the third column, but including different things like arrogance jealousy impatience, stuff like that.
It's a bit more granular.
And then what are my fears?
And like the fears some people do as a separate inventory, but I like do it there and then I go.
So what so?
What so?
What so?
What like?
Where you, you?
You will generally uncover that even a sort of relatively minor fear, like my mum gave me coffee, will lead to something like that I didn't like will lead to something really profound and sort of awful like that's.
That's generally the experience, that you're responding on the surface to something quite minor potentially, but then down deep it's a sort of a core belief, Or sometimes it's a resentment where someone kicked your head in or abused you or stole a load of money,
in which case the resentment is a somewhat more obvious, but still there's no such thing as a justified resentment because, in any circumstance, you want to be free of that feeling in order to proceed.
And that's where the Christian principle of forgiveness, which I'm increasingly recognizing, is almost like the fuel of participation in the great reality.
That if you've got anything that you've not forgiven, and I've really been praying in a sort of a Davidian way, almost like search me, search me, show me what I've not forgiven, or show me what I need to do.
Like, you know, like, like the thing is, again, with being a follower of Christ, is that your forgiveness is granted to you by grace, by his sacrifice.
But that doesn't mean that you wouldn't, you know, participate in an amends process.
Dave, I've got some questions to ask you about that.
Well, firstly, anything off the back of what I've just said, but you know, what you think is pivotal about those seven attributes in the seven areas of self in the third column, and maybe also the importance of forgiveness.
Yeah.
Well, so to tie to tie it into where we started, like when we read the bedevilments, that's right before we're about to hit the self, right?
So it's building up to 62 where it's like selfishness, self-centeredness.
That's, we think, is the root of our trouble.
So when you're seeing those bedevilments, you're like, okay, like identify.
It's, you know, when you're talking to someone and you're, you, you give them a description of what happened to you, and they're like, yes, that's me.
That's, that's me.
It's like those bedevilments are just there going, yes, I am a prey to misery and depression.
I do feel useless.
You know, and it's like, what is my basic trouble?
Well, it hits it in step three where it's like, you or your basic trouble is selfishness.
Dave is his basic trouble.
And so when I, you know, like I like how you say a closed circuit, it's like a rebreather almost.
It's like you have to get outside of that system, you know, which happens.
I don't know of a better time than a fist up with someone else.
I'm with Joe on that.
Like, I mean, fist ups have saved my butt more than they've saved anyone else's.
And when I'm looking at that, because in a fist up, you're really, you're really seeing how you play God.
I'm really seeing how I play God specifically.
And like you said, Russell, is when you're writing out that second column, it's never not specific for me.
It's never like, well, you know, I'm resentful at Russell because he's a dick.
Well, that's not really the resentment.
Weird example.
Weird.
Makes sense.
I'm resentful at Russell because he doesn't think you've hurt my feelings.
Or he, you know, stole from me.
Or there's something specific.
There's always something specific.
And so I think of that specifics, but when you talk about the, I don't necessarily don't think that the third column is necessarily more important.
I think the whole thing's important, right?
Like there's no column that's more important.
I do think the third column is the most telling for me in my experience so far because one thing I notice and when someone's doing a fist up, when we get to like the third or fourth resentment,
usually I've almost every time now, whatever they're leaving off on the third column is the thing that they need to see.
And so I'll have an idea going in and I'll be like, okay, you know, this is his general pattern or this is what I think.
You know, he uses self-pity to get what he wants or whatever.
And then when they actually start doing it, it's always something that I didn't foresee.
And it's usually what they're leaving off in their third column is that thing that they're not seeing in order to help them like break free of those resentments.
I suppose that makes sense, Dave, because presumably if a person was aware of it, it wouldn't create that type of malaise.
Yeah.
Sometimes people are aware of it.
They see it completely.
They're just going, hey, I just don't want to let it go because I'm going to hold this guy in resentment.
They're wrong.
And you're going, okay, well, one, if you cannot get rid of it, and that's where when you mentioned scripture of like search me and that we need to, you know, be as a Christian, like the concept of forgiveness,
I have to see, I have to see, I have to work through that a lot of times.
I can't just be like, okay, I just forgive them and I'm not going to have any feelings around it.
It's like, I can forgive someone and then still be holding resentment.
And so I go, okay, I know that I'm supposed to forgive them.
I know that what really you're seeing when you're doing that inventory is you're letting go of your power around that and going, okay, I'm not the, they didn't, it's not against me.
Like, God's the one that's the judge.
The God's the one that holds that.
I'm playing that role.
And so every time I do an inventory, it's taking me out of the role of God and putting me back in my place.
And so when I, and it's specific.
So third column, I think, is it's showing me God-given things that I like, my needs, you know, self-esteem, security, like those things are things that I need.
And so as just a broken human, but the way that I go about it is by short-circuiting God.
And so it's not that I needed security or I needed pride or I needed money.
It's instead of trusting God in it, I went around God to try and get those needs met myself.
And so it's not a condom.
It's really showing you how you go around God to run your own life.
Is every problem then that really?
Probably, I think.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think you have to be an addict to do that.
I think everyone does that.
They go around God to try and run their own life or meet their own needs.
And they do it in different ways.
I think it shows it specifically in inventory for me.