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Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand, actually, Russell, Russell Brand, controversial conspiracy theorist, trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
Epstein files, we've been looking at the Epstein files, it's just a lovely bunch of pedophiles, they've been swimming around for a while, you gotta smile, they're...
There's Bill Clint and Bill Gates having a nice time.
They are all noncinner and trafficking and doing sex crimes.
They'll say it's not so tough.
A little bit of muff.
Traffic from afar on the Epstein files.
We're living in the Epstein.
So hello.
Remember, don't take life too seriously because one day, unless you're in Christ, it's the old eternal lake of fire fuckers.
You're joining me, Russell Brand, on stay free with Russell Brand on Rumble.
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We have assembled a mighty army.
We are ready for the apocalypse.
We're ready for Armageddon.
What is the first requirement to be ready for Armageddon?
You've got to die for this shit.
You can't be quivering like a little nimsy in the corner or worried about your wiggle worm.
Oh no, it's gone back in my body.
No, You've got to get ready.
You've got to fight for your right to party.
The beastie boys knew that.
But were they?
Epstein Files.
We've been living in the Epstein Isles.
We went to that weird ceramic temple.
Happy days.
Happy days.
Happy times.
Today on the show, we're not actually talking about the Epstein Files because we've talked about them quite a lot.
We know who's in there.
We know what's going on.
Pay attention to the powerful people.
Pay attention to the money.
Think about the reasons and pray, Lord, pray for the victims and those that suffer as a result of this.
I'm joined, as always, by Louisiana's own Jake Smith.
Hello, Jake.
Woo!
You been alright?
Made any albums this week?
Not this week.
Well, what's going on?
Why are you hanging around in church parking lots like a hooker at a truck stop going, anyone need, anyone need a riff?
Anyone need a riff?
Because that's where the money's at.
That's where the money's at.
There's old Dave Fields there.
Dave Fields, he's never met an app he didn't like.
We're actually working on some projects together.
Dave, you're just apps are flowing out of you like wine.
Yeah.
It's fun.
You're good.
I enjoy it.
You're a good entrepreneur.
I enjoy it.
I love it.
It'll be good when you're rich, but just do remember to look after the rest of us.
That's all I ask.
I hope you're enjoying this new shot as well.
That's one of the things that we're doing now in this pre-taped show: we are establishing.
And you come in, I don't know how close you are on me, Liam.
Can you see everything?
Can you see the money makers?
Take a good look at these because it's the last time you'll be seeing them for a while.
Unless you are Joe McCann, who is in Redding Redding, will kick your effing head in England, more or less.
Is that where you are, mate, in Redding?
Where I am, mate.
Yeah, it's bedtime here in the UK.
That's why I look all vulnerable.
You do look vulnerable.
And also, I wouldn't suggest a Technicolor pillow for a man of your state.
Like, you need something clean, mate.
Your mind is already full of electricity.
That's like an Aztec's pillow.
That's devil worship, that pillow.
What's going on with that?
How come?
It's very colourful.
It's a bit too psychedelic, innit?
A bit leery.
I'd say it's borderline false gods, that.
That's false gods, that pillow.
That's almost like you're worshiping it.
It's giving me a migraine.
You could give anyone a migraine.
Now, you've got to be careful.
Don't look at it.
Stay alert.
Stay focused.
With us is beloved Massey, who's got the enviable task of cutting all this up at some time later.
I always think that you look like, I mean, that's really effective lighting you've got wherever you are.
Very effective lighting.
You could be anywhere.
You could be in an arc.
Oh, now we're talking, maybe.
Changes made stuff.
I'm in my mum's attic, not my mum's basement, but same shit at the end of the day.
Basically, the same thing.
I mean, just being upstairs.
Any non-room in your mother's residence is a potential serial killer issue, I would say.
We've got a lot to talk about today.
We're talking about the UK, wherever you're watching.
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Additional content from me, from Crowder.
We've got to go on his show.
We've got to go on Crowder Show.
We've got to go to Dallas.
Nikki!
Nurse Nikki!
Nurse!
Nikki!
We've got Nurse Nikki now.
Things are good.
We've always got the availability of Wow Nurse.
How's it going?
That's a hell of an entrance.
We should be getting issued NADs at all times, I would say.
We just called you in because we're thinking about when are we going to go to Dallas?
Would you mind being on?
Oh, yeah, go.
Liam's got you.
You're on camera.
Brilliant.
He's already paying his own salary, this kid.
Young Liam Sullivan there, Chelsea fan.
What he didn't learn on the shed, he made up inside his own head.
Nikki, thanks for joining us.
We're thinking that it's very important that we go on.
Is that camera working?
Are we going to use Liam?
Like, we've got a few things that we're going to do because when this secret project is ready, we can't talk about the secret project yet, but my word, the secret project, you are going to love it.
You are going to love it.
When we're ready for the secret project, we've got to go on.
Everyone's show got going.
Megan Kelly got to go on Tucker.
Got to do something with Tate.
Got to go on.
Candice got to go on.
We've got to go on the lad, the funny lad, Theo.
Theo, got to go on Sean Ryan, friends of him.
So we've got to get all this booked.
It's big.
Something big is coming down the pipe.
I don't mean in a kind of constipation way.
I mean, something big is coming down the pipe.
Something big and positive.
It would be coming soon.
So watch out around March.
Watch out around Easter for something glorious and life-changing in the holy name.
So yeah, you've just got to work out.
I mean, we called you in here essentially because Jake shouted your name like a madman and I just went with him.
Yeah, thank you very much for coming.
You enjoying your work here so far?
Yeah.
Good.
You've been on camera now and you've also said that on camera.
So there we go.
That's all of the evidence we need.
Nurse Nikki, please stay alert because you don't know when we may need to be administered an electrolyte.
You're interested in alternative therapies, aren't you, nurse?
I am.
These are very important.
I want, I'll take some right now.
Please.
Thank you.
Yeah, get yourself loaded up on electrolytes and remember too, the methylene blue.
Have you started that?
No.
Is Sam taking them, your husband, Mr. Brown?
No, we do have the tallow.
You've got the tallow.
You're cooking with it or you're putting the one on your face.
Yeah, I like it on my hands.
Yeah.
Remember, you can subscribe to Reborn.
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Remember, also, I've got to get some new bed spreads for dear old Jake.
I mean, for Joe, actually.
I'm going to get you.
I want to get you like a Superman bed spread, something like that.
What I had when I was a kid.
What did you have as your bedspread, Joe?
What did you have when you were little, mate?
I had an Arsenal one and I've had a SpongeBob SquarePants one and all.
I weren't that little then.
I was in jail, actually.
When I've got SpongeBob SquarePants, SpongeBob in jail?
Yeah, SpongeBob, SquarePants.
Bedset.
That's amazing.
I don't think when you're at Her Majesty's pleasure, as it was then, that you should be allowed the privileges of a SpongeBob.
Where'd you get it?
It was a privilege.
You had to be an enhanced prisoner and you could order it from Argos.
What's required in order to become an enhanced prisoner, mate?
You've got to apply for it after you've done six months.
And if you've not gotten any trouble or nothing, they'll let you have it.
Then you can order nice little treats from Argos.
He's stayed out of trouble.
He's been a good lad, six months.
He's paid his debt to society.
Give him a SpongeBob bed spread to show him there's a way back for everybody.
Should we go to the bottom?
Give him a cellmate a nurse so she can go back to work.
Yeah, Nicky.
Round of applause for me.
She's amazing.
What a woman.
What a woman.
Thank you for bringing the femininity and the power back into this filthy testosterone film-filled boys club where without Nurse Nikki's presence, and even to a degree with it, we actually end up just talking about Joe's jail bedspread.
That's the level of conversation that we find ourselves at.
And remember, if you ain't got tickets to come see me in the Florida panhandle, get them now.
A funny thing happened on my way to church.
A title given to me by the great Gary Oldman.
Not directly.
I don't want to drag him into some of the nightmares I've been through.
The fella has been through enough, but it was a title someone going to.
I told Gary Oldman, he said, call it that.
So come and see me.
I'll be talking about how I came to Christ.
It's good stuff.
There's some preaching.
Oh, there's preaching, baby.
Is there preaching?
They're singing.
Jake will sing a song.
Who knows with?
Jake will probably meet someone on the way there.
Have an album out by the time he gets there.
I'm not singing that.
Come on, Jake.
Jake, is it fantastic?
Listen to Jake Smith's music on Spotify if he gets enough listens and he'll realize that, you know, behind this teasing is nothing but love.
Have you noticed that the British countryside is full of white people?
And I'm sick of it.
Everywhere I look, just another honky, just another honky.
When I go countryside, I want to see N-Word after N-Word after N-Word.
I want to see Somalians here, Moroccans there, Egyptians there.
I don't want to wander through there looking at Icelandic folk and albinos.
The albinos, they've took it too far.
I want them to be just the right shade of white.
This is, of course, the story that in Britain, there's a political dispute over identity.
Everyone's going crazy.
It's because of Kier Starmer.
love him.
Keir Starmer, a man more focused on, I mean, look, we joke about it a lot on this show.
Keir Starmer is a child of God and we love him and he's trying his best.
But when you see videos of him, like walking along next to an helicopter and trying to be all military, he don't look right, does he?
Look.
And when you see him like trying to get involved in campaigns, like when he sat next to that little kid going, oh, what are you doing?
Making San Katoplestascine, are you?
He don't look right, does he?
And when about 40, 50 years after everyone stopped caring about AIDS, because all you have to do is take a tablet and it's out of bleeding window, he started talking about AIDS tests.
Yeah, I've done the important work.
I've had AIDS test.
You got YouTube too.
Look down that little spile, pull it wide open, open it up, peel it like a banana, and you'll see if there's any monkey business going on down there.
You never know.
You never know where you put it, where you put it.
Don't leave your purping slippers in the wrong place.
You could pay a terrible, terrible price.
Don't take my word for it.
Ask Mark Almond.
I don't mean Mark Almond, actually.
I think he's still alive.
And HIV 3, praise the Lord.
Keep them protected.
Protect our beloved ones.
But the fact is, is that Britain is undergoing a cultural identity crisis.
Check out this.
A Telegraph headline, Telegraphed British newspaper, of course, sets up controversy over initiatives aimed at making the countryside less white, framing rural England as a space in need of ideological correction.
That's probably, do you know what they're doing?
They're trying to shut down them farmer protests because there's a good agricultural movement coming up out of the UK right now.
The farmers who've had enough of all these top-down e-dicks out of the EU, you've got to use this fertiliser.
You can't use that fuel.
Sit down.
Call that sheep.
Your cow farts are ruining our country.
The farmers are fighting back.
And when farmers fight back, it's serious gear because they'll go down parliament and sort of spray shit everywhere.
It's amazing because they've got good kit, haven't they?
They can block roads easy, spray manure.
I love these farmers, man.
I love farmers.
Say no to stama.
That's basically the message.
And probably making Britain and the British countryside less white is a kind of cultural attack.
I mean, imagine if you went to Japan and said, few too many Japanese around here, aren't they?
Look at them.
You can't trust them, crafty little devils.
Remember the war?
They was a cruel people.
A cruel people.
Bamboo shoots under the fingernails and the Sikhs working as prison guards.
You can't fucking trust them.
They don't like it up.
If racism's wrong, it's wrong on the basis that you shouldn't judge people on the basis of a set of characteristics that are not connected to character, right?
As the great Martin Luther King said, judge us not by the colour of our skin but by the content of our character.
That's a universal law.
And the very idea that you can make universal statements is under attack now because they want us to believe there is no God but them.
By them, I mean these institutions of bureaucratic power who are using technology now to induce and introduce levels of control that are inconceivable.
How inconceivable?
Well, for example, getting involved in social engineering in the British countryside.
Let's have a little look at that story now.
So look, it says here, diversity drive to make Britain's countryside less white.
They don't mean the grass and that, which is green, and presumably they want to leave it that colour.
They mean the folks what live there.
Rural areas tasked with coming up with strategies to attract more ethnic minorities that reflect a multi-cultural nation.
You got it.
Like, what a weird abstract concept.
Just leave us alone.
Stop doing social engineering.
Do you know what we need?
Muslims in the countryside.
I mean, like, just let people be who they are, where they are.
Stop it.
It's not Disneyland.
You don't need to curate it.
It's not Epcot Centre.
Why don't we have a little bit over there where everyone's Chinese?
Have a little bit over there where it's guardians of the galaxy ride.
Let people get on with their lives.
The British countryside will be made into a less white environment under nationwide diversity plans.
Officials in rural areas, including the Chewans, I've got house there, and the Cotswolds, cracking place, have pledged to attract more minorities.
Pledged.
We're gonna do it.
Don't worry, we've got a pledge.
Plans drawn up by the Department of Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, DEFRA.
The plans follow DEFRA's commissioned report that claimed the countryside would become irrelevant in a multi-cultural cultural society as it was a white environment principally enjoyed by the white middle class.
Now, what this is, is social engineering.
There was a massive farmer protest in the UK 20 years back when they were going to ban fox hunting, as a matter of fact.
Now, right back then, I was a vegan myself and would have been against fox hunting.
I'm still a bit against fox hunting.
I mean, I really, really love foxes and think it's out of order.
But what I've subsequently learned to understand is that metropolitan areas like to impose control over rural people.
It's a way of ensuring that centralization infuses every area of cultural and public life.
And what they've worked out is, oh, people in the countryside are just cracking on, getting on with their own lives.
Now, me, I'm very sensitive to class politics.
Indeed, the aspects of socialism to which I'm most sensitive and about which I'm most interested pertain to class politics.
I don't like concentration of wealth and power in small pockets, particularly when it's not representative of artwork, it's representative of sometimes nepotism, sometimes imperialism.
It's pretty corrupt, actually.
But this is social engineering that we're experiencing now.
Let's have a look at this lady here saying that it's pretty difficult to create the perfect utopia with a Sikh, a Muslim, a Jew, and a Christian all enjoying a pint together in a country pub.
One, because some of those religions don't drink alcohol, because of real cultural reasons.
And indeed, if you're making claims to the type of objectivity that any ideology requires, i.e., you have to be certain that you're right, then you've got to take into mind the very least the contradiction that comes when you say native people from this set of land need to be respected and honoured, and native people from this land we want to destroy their culture.
Condemning Racial Prejudice00:09:21
You have to honor and acknowledge the contradiction, nay, hypocrisy.
We've got a problem.
It's a lot about, yeah, it's a lot about the national parks and getting people out there and making national parks for everybody.
And one of the problems is dogs.
And actually, this isn't just about the fact that a lot of Muslims find dogs very difficult.
It is about people who do not know how to control their dogs.
Why do Muslims find dogs difficult?
Because a lot of they don't have dogs as pets.
It's good.
It's good stuff.
It's good stuff, all of this, isn't it?
Actually, look, I want to let you know and I want to remind you that for a long time I lived in London and I lived in East London and I'm very sympathetic to the challenges faced by Muslim people and I think that it is possible for people of different cultural and racial identities to live harmoniously together.
But I don't think the way to do that is by annihilating the rights and identity of the native people, especially particularly if those people are the British because that's the tribe I'm from.
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So, okay, then let's have a look at what this is.
This is the claim, the outrageous claim that the countryside is racist.
In a minute, I'll be getting the views of my beloved friends here, Dave Fields, entrepreneur and tech genius.
Some are saying, Jake Smith, musician for hire producer.
Ah, excellence and occasional sex object.
Proven to be racist or have issues with racial prejudice.
So the countryside is not exempt from that.
And what people fail to realize is that in these particularly kind of these spaces that are particularly dominated by white people, it can end up being kind of, it can feel quite exclusive.
The reason why is because these individuals share the same culture, same values, which includes food, language, music, etiquette, manners, hobbies, etc.
So when someone new comes along, that's different.
They can end up standing out like a sore thumb.
They can end up not potentially fitting in.
And then they also have to contend with the racial prejudice that kind of lies within that area.
So there's that interesting dynamic of not necessarily fitting in because you're different.
And then also racial prejudice that we have in this country.
There you go, the old countryside.
It's racist.
There's no question that there is such a thing as racism.
There is such a thing as bigotry.
There is such a thing as prejudice.
And it appears like it's a two-way street.
But what I find disheartening as a white British person is I know that the people I grew up with in Essex, I come from a relatively diverse community.
Essex where I'm from is much more diverse now than it was when I was growing up.
And I do recall the casual racist language that would be used both by the kids I went to school with against the Asian Pakistani kids and that.
It was just normal to use racist language back then.
So that's a legit point.
I also recall that people that I write loved, like my grandmother and that, would sort of just say racist stuff.
It was just normal to say that kind of thing.
But there's a difference between protocols and manners and the aspect of racism that's an indicator of real dark, nasty cruelty.
And the British people aren't dark, nasty people.
The British people, not so long ago, were willing to fight a war and lay down their lives.
I'm talking about the Second World War, of course, on a matter of high principle.
Whatever the real reasons were for World War II, and perhaps it's too complex a subject to assess and address here on this microphone on this admittedly wonderful platform, the people that fought and died in that war in significant numbers believed they were fighting for something righteous.
The same as the many service personnel that I'm honored to know, admire and adore and support this show.
They're fighting for, by their reckoning, freedom, honor, the freedom of the people that they love.
Freedom may be free to you, but it costs someone something.
Truth is, though, that when I speak to people in the forces in this country, many of them that have been in and around the military for a long while increasingly recognize that they have been exploited and lied to.
And one of the betrayals, one of the many betrayals that veterans experience and the mentality and the ideology that they have fought and died for, is when, in a very sort of pat, simplistic and reductive way, racial dynamics are trotted out in the manner that we've just seen there, where people just casually say, British people, they're racist in the countryside.
Condemn them, condemn them in a kind of a glib and rather unfair way.
What do you think about this, Dave?
You're like not from England.
You've only been there twice.
You always comment on the wrong things.
Times I've got you there.
Instead of looking at Windsor Castle, you're looking at a pebble-dashed council house.
And what's that?
What's their technique for what's there?
Oh, that's pebble dashing, sir.
Instead of looking over there, where's like houses where like Alfred the Great lived?
So, Dave, do you see that there are different class and racial dynamics and different attitudes around patriotism in the United States than in my country, the UK?
See, some similarity.
Like, my first thought when I'm looking at this clip is wrong question.
My first thought is, is it the government's job to come in and switch out or try and put in minorities in the countryside?
Like, if that was a farmer from the countryside saying, hey, we've been pretty racist.
We need to start including them.
And then I'm like, okay, yeah, sure.
Like, they're adjusting their own culture.
But when it's a government coming in to adjust their own culture.
In the morning, right?
We got up, then we had to look after cows.
Then we were out in the field, right?
We had to do the, we had to get rid of wheat and we had to bail it all up.
It took a few hours.
That was 5 a.m.
Then like between 11 and 1, we just did some focus mostly on racism.
We just went out later and we discriminated against the people of Northern Africa and then the Western African people.
Then what we done is we went out and we burned them their Qurans.
When the guy piled up some Qurans and built them, oh, it's a hard life working on the farm.
Gotta spend, firstly, there's the agricultural work.
That take a long time.
But a lot of our time is consumed with racism.
It's exhausting.
Oh, my father before me, I was before a combine harvester.
So his racism.
He had to do his racism the old-fashioned way by hand.
But nowadays, you can do a lot of your racism with Monsanto.
They'll help you plant a genetically engineered racism in the fields and your racism grow a whole crop.
And if any of that racism blows onto neighboring fields, that racism won't grow out quite as much because it's copyrighted and patented.
So we do need the government to get involved, help us to not be so racist.
Otherwise, we're so stupid being farmers and that that we'll probably go, well, I'm much more racist.
Yeah.
Comedy, baby.
Comedy, poor and simple.
Absolutely racist.
I mean, it's saying that there is a problem with the countryside because it's traditionally British.
Our traditional pubs are a problem.
Somehow ethnic minorities feel excluded from these areas.
I mean, imagine going to rural China or rural India and complaining that there aren't any white people there.
I mean, you'd be carted away to the loony bin, I would imagine, for a start.
But of course, you know, just, you know, the English countryside is English.
That's really funny.
When it goes rural China.
Excuse me.
Hey, you look.
Come over here.
Come here.
I've been looking around, rural China.
Everywhere, look, Chinese.
Lampshades for fucking hats.
What's going on?
Or, you know, nah, man, I ain't having that.
I want to see myself black geysers.
I want to see a big, tall, blonde bird.
You should be ashamed of yourself to use Chinese.
Also, the other thing is, as soon as you've had, like, as soon as he's been to one Chinese village, 20 minutes later, you need another Chinese.
I was trying to do a joke about how you need more Chinese food.
And he didn't quite.
He didn't really land.
Countryside is English countryside.
You know, to paraphrase Basil Faulty, what do you expect to see there?
Sydney Opera House, herds of wilderness sweeping majestically.
You don't expect to see Chinatown there.
You don't expect to see Jamaican steel bands there.
Strange Happenings in Rural UK00:10:22
We need to call this out for what it is.
this fundamentally racist it's the logical argument that he's saying Logical.
Just, wow.
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
And who is behind this report?
So DEFRA wants to make this policy change based upon a report from the Leicester University's Centre for Hate Studies.
Now, that tells you all you need to know.
A completely biased report by this far-left society, which is now shaping government policy.
I think questions should be asked in the House about this.
Well, Britain is going crazy.
We've noticed it for a long time.
They're scrapping their plans for digital ID, praise the Lord, or mandatory digital ID, at least, but they're pushing ahead with digital surveillance.
Many people believe that there's a connection between the huge number of people that have been arrested more than anywhere else in the world for social media posts and this sense of draconian government overreach.
So is this attempt to ethnically cleanse or ethnically spice up the countryside part of a social engineering program in the UK that includes extraordinary decisions like ignoring the rape gang crisis,
appearing to shut down free speech wherever it opposes government mandates, extraordinary behavior during COVID, the deployment of the 77th Brigade, for example, a psyops organization that was started to deal with misinformation in foreign countries like Iraq that ultimately ended up being used on the domestic population and the deployment of groups like Logically AI to monitor and control social media.
What exactly is going on in the UK?
They want to scrap trial by jury.
It's difficult not to think that all this leads back to one man, one AIDS test, one leader, Keir Starmer.
Tucker Carlson, friend of the show and American pundit, broadcaster and writer, says that nothing will convince him that Keir Starmer is running the UK.
But what do you think?
Is Keir Starmer a WEF, WHO globalist type stooge who's been blackmailed and like many of the people we've seen in the Epstein files, has skeletons in his closet that are used to control him?
Or is something else going on?
These are legitimate questions to ask.
These are certainly not declarations or accusations.
You don't make those things, not anymore.
Not when you've got a justice system.
We're innocent until proven guilty is the way that justice worked.
Innocent until proven guilty.
But what is Tucker Carlson saying about Keir Starmer right here?
But I know a fair amount about Keir Starmer and you will never convince me at gunpoint even that Keir Starmer is making independent decisions about the future of Britain.
Just you can't convince me of that.
He's not adequate as a leader of a nation.
He just doesn't have the basic qualities.
He is taking orders.
That could not be clearer.
And I think it's clear to the British population.
But you don't know who's giving those orders.
I mean, have you ever seen him sort of like flapping and lapping around Zelensky?
Iman Rishi Sunak before him, the previous Rishi Sunak, who of course was one of the people that was an owner and participant in a hedge fund that invested in Moderna when Moderna had like five employees and subsequently was paid out by Moderna after Moderna.
I think they benefited quite significantly during the COVID era and certainly they were awarded lucrative rich contracts by the British government.
Look at all these contracts and look at people like Jonathan Van Tam, people that worked for the government and went on to work for Moderna.
Something strange is going on in the UK.
But what is it?
Is it even a proper country anymore?
Is it a capsized nation?
I think it's been captured.
I think it's a nation under control.
I think it's a nation that hates its population and is trying to destroy it.
My belief, my prayer for Britain, is that it becomes a Christian country directly controlled by the people.
Maximum direct digital democracy.
Will it always be a diverse country?
Of course it will.
Should the people there be loved?
Should foreigners be welcomed and loved?
Of course.
Of course there will be a variety of cultures in Britain.
In any great British city that's controlled by its population using technology to achieve direct democracy.
Of course what you want is compassion and love.
But what you don't want is compassion in the hands of tyrants used as a tool to control, claiming that they're trying to help some minority somewhere.
It's always on behalf of some minority somewhere, isn't it?
When they take more power and control.
Stay in your houses, take the jab, wear the mask, do as you're told.
Climate change.
Remember, they reverse engineer their authority.
They know that they want total control.
Control not only of the government state, but of your inner states.
They won't rest till they control your very spirit.
And as far as I can tell, there's only one way to control and prevent that.
And that's why I keep mentioning it.
Praise Jesus.
Christian country, mass democracy, individual freedom, voluntary coming to Christ.
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Jake, you pulled a bit of scripture for us here from Revelation.
Never less than terrifying.
Let's have a look.
After this, I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count from every nation, tribe, people, and language standing before the throne and before the Lamb.
They were wearing white robes and they were holding palm branches in their hands.
Why now, Jake?
Why are you using this bit of scripture for this story?
That's a diversity that we can look forward to.
Diversity in God.
Yeah, we're all united under Jesus, different tribes, different tongue.
That's ultimately what people are trying to get, but I think they're going about it the wrong way.
Yeah, you can't reverse engineer it.
You can't impose it on people.
Joe, you're there in the United Kingdom right now, mate.
You live in like sort of pretty near towns like Slough, Reading, High Wickham, places immortalized in British drama.
Slough immortalized in Benjamin's poem, Come Friendly Bombs and Fallen Slough.
But mostly, you know, poet laureate of British comedy, Ricky Gervais, is from Reading and wrote a lot about Slough.
When you're there now, do you feel like you're in a country that's what does it feel like to be a young British white man, a Catholic, living in the UK?
Does it feel like it's a place that's for you?
Not really, no.
It depends where you go.
Like, like you say, Redding, Slough, they're very, I don't know, sometimes it does feel like a foreign land, I've got to be honest with you.
But then you go to like Henley, and it is like all traditional, you know, rural.
And I guess it is like more white people there.
Do you know what I mean?
But that's just how things have gone, isn't it?
You know, like people seem to live within their own little communities, like in Slough, big Asian population and that.
And the same in Reading, I guess.
And a lot of sort of like Muslim population in Reading as well.
I don't know, man.
It's just how things have played out here, isn't it?
This is what I want, mate, is I want Muslims to be able to watch our show, right?
And go, this is fair.
And this is not an anti-Muslim perspective because I don't, I'm not down with it at all.
And I think it's an important component.
I think people are trying to leverage and exacerbate tensions between different cultural groups.
You know, we've had Tommy Robinson on the show and I think he's an important voice in British politics.
You don't get to choose actually.
The country will tell you and show you who the important voices are because they listen to them and they have marches.
And if there's a couple hundred thousand people at a march for a bloke who's done jail time on numerous occasions on a variety for a variety of reasons, but seemed somewhat connected to his ability to speak openly about rape gangs and the aspect of that migrant culture that are obviously not working unless rape gangs is your thing.
But what I've tried to say directly to him and what I want to try to achieve is a viable and clear argument that Britain is a Christian country and that the people that pay taxes, fought for it, whatever the investment is, are entitled to believe that it's their country.
If you want to pull the threads of something like inverted commas your country, yeah, before long you do realize that all culture is laying upon the earth.
It's laying upon the earth.
You can believe yourself to be French.
Oh yeah, why?
Because you had a croissant and a glass of red wine.
Well, no, because I live in France, you might say, and I was born in France.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that when the culture is used to divide people, it becomes increasingly clear that only Christ can unite people, that only leadership that is uncontaminated by the kind of earthly failings.
Steps to Unity Voting00:14:27
Because see, when you talk about Henley, mate, I think that before when I was a kid, I was all about class politics.
I was like, I hate rich, powerful people.
I hate it.
I hate it.
Like, it was vehement in me.
Like, this is the thing to attack.
I really strongly felt it.
And I liked it when I was at them, like, Dockers marches and them other reclaim the streets things.
And they were like, you know, that's what's become the kind of woke Antifa stuff.
That's what grew out of that for sure.
But now, I see how that's nihilistic.
It's nihilistic.
It can't lead us anywhere that.
And I think the reason it becomes nihilistic is because it ain't got no God.
It's not got a God at the center of it.
And when there's not a God, you can reason yourself into all sorts of peculiar positions.
You have to be somehow submissive and surrendered.
And the idea of distinct tribes and distinct identities under Christ.
And honor and reverence between us.
That can only really be bought out if you trust people and if you give people power.
There there is, there is this sort of sense that power is being held at the center and no one's.
Everyone's in the same sort of gripe, the same grind and same tension.
I don't know what's going to happen mate, but I do know that they benefit when we're in tension with one another.
Has anyone got any?
What do you think about a meeting like how an?
A meeting brings together people like you will have.
You can have someone that's homeless, and then you can have a billionaire next to each other.
That I mean complete socioeconomic different classes, but yet man, they you can even have uh, guys sponsoring the leadership structure come up in that that has nothing to do with their net worth or who they're associated with or where they live.
I think it's one of the purest pictures i've seen.
Do you think though Dave, that 12 step groups that are, by their nature?
People would say it's anarchic, but actually the term anarchic collapses into democratic when you push it enough, because what it means is there is no imposed structure, there is only consensus established through direct discourse and votes.
That's how.
That's how an a question would be this, how would you scale it?
And two it, do you not think that there's something fundamental about it, about the fact that people come to a 12-step group needing broken and needing to stop drinking, and needing to stop taking drinks or drink uh, drugs excuse me, i've got to stop taking these drinks or needing to stop gambling, or whatever it is?
Do you think that?
Uh, because I guess the fact that you've raised it make you must believe on some level that it there's information in it that we can learn from.
Yeah well, I think for sure you're coming in there.
You're coming in there with a problem that you cannot solve and you need help right, and you need the help of the group or members of the group and their experience going through the steps.
Um also, you need to help as well.
In order to stay sober, you need to participate and help out.
I mean, I think how you go about that, I don't know.
I mean carefully, because the way they went about it was hey, least possible organization, least possible government over it, and they really took a position of if you're, if you're a leader in there, it's a leader, it's a servant position.
You're serving the group that's a Christian idea in it, like the highlight isn't.
Like our lord, the highest position is servant.
He who tries to exalt himself will be humbled.
He who humbles himself will be exalted.
Do Do you think like that?
I mean, this is saying I think about forgive the tangent.
Like, in like when you look at 12 steps, right?
A sponsor of mine used to say the thing that's genius, like the 12 steps are, um, you can find that anywhere in some sort of way.
Like, you can find a process of, you know, indeed, it came from the Oxford group, so they found it there, but it sort of is a recognizable pattern.
Me used to say, Alfie did, that it's the 12 traditions that's the masterpiece because the 12 traditions makes us acknowledge that no one individual is all-powerful.
The only authority is a vote.
You know, they call it group conscience, of course, or group conscious, but conscience.
Like that, you know, that ultimately that boils down to we vote on anything.
Even if you want to get a new kettle, you've got to do a vote, right?
We're going to vote.
We want to spend some of the money on a new kettle.
Takes ages.
Like, that's one of the things I've noticed.
I've been involved in a few anarchist sort of organizations or Democratic, let's call it Democratics, people don't like anarchists, but it doesn't mean that.
Decentralized group where the group is fully independent and autonomous.
That's one of the things I like about it.
It says each group is fully autonomous, except in matters affecting other groups or in the case of AA as a whole.
So, like, I've been thinking about how you could map that onto a sort of a city-state.
You could say every borough is fully independent, except in matters affecting other boroughs, or say for example, London as a whole.
Every borough is independent.
So, this is your budget.
You vote among yourselves.
You've already got a council.
You've voted in mayors and councillors and all that.
Use a lot, put it before the public, have polls on it.
Do you want to spend this money on outsourcing all of your refuse collection on your sewage, or do you want to employ council workers?
Do you want to repave that road?
Or do you want to open a hostel?
Like, what do you, you know, and then you've got democracy.
And what you would require, I suppose, is people being able to communicate.
Look, this is the challenge you're going to face.
If you don't put this money into sewage, you're you know, this these are the consequences, but it's up to you.
It's your money.
Like, that's that's the relationship, though, that democracy should be.
It's your money.
Like, that's not how the government talks to us now, is it?
This is your money, so tell us.
Like, we're doing this and we're doing that.
Like, whatever side you're on, the assumption is you are subordinate.
And once you say none of us are subordinate, we've all got the same God, and we are all subordinate to him and laterally connected.
And there may be other structures if we choose to participate in them.
When I go to BJJ with Carlos, Carlos is in charge, that's clear.
He's a black belt, he's a teacher.
When I'm in my household, there are areas where me and my wife are communicating about leadership in the 12 steps.
As you said, that it's only by consensus of the governed.
It's not by like a mandate delivered by consensus of the governed, to quote in fact.
Holy grail.
But like, so, um, you know, so, mate, do you think that those ideas can work politically?
Should.
Yeah.
It should.
That's how it should be.
Now, how you go about that, I don't know.
I mean, I think you know some of it.
I mean, you've mentioned some of it.
Decentralization, right?
Being able to use technology, blockchain specifically, to do voting and polling.
Getting everyone involved.
Everyone in a community would just need to be involved.
And you'd have to give them the simplest way to be involved.
You know, here's an app.
Go to it.
This is everything going on in your county or city or is you quote borough.
Borough.
Serez barrio in like Brazil or whatever.
And then being able to, okay, if you don't want that road or you want this changed in your area, you've got to participate.
You've got to participate.
You could even have a vote to not do it.
You could even go, we're not doing it.
And we opt out.
We want the council to run our bit.
All right, cool.
Do that then.
Like, you know, give people maximum, the principle should be maximum, not minimum power.
What was you going to say, mate?
I was just saying, you got to have something that unites you.
You have to have something that unites you.
So even in AA, addiction and recovery, there's it.
We're at least on the same page, and this is what we're here for.
In Christ, you can have a diverse church, but they're all united under Christ.
So even in relation to this, what's the uniting factor?
So if you would say it's country.
But then you want to change everything about the country, or you don't, or it's culture, and you want to come in and change the culture completely.
That's where the battle is happening.
I like this culture well, I don't like this culture.
That's the battle.
So if there's like a lot of Muslims that want to go out to the countryside and have a house, I just don't know if that's the case, but there has to be a uniting factor for any of this to work.
It's very interesting.
It does have to be like well and that's.
But do you see how the Babylonian filthy, Satanic system is destroying concepts like universality and objectivity?
Because even when you said that thing, I like the culture.
I don't like the culture.
That should work in this system.
Okay, so people who don't like the culture, I mean, but the problem is, is it's not geographical?
Is it it's ideological?
So there are people all over London like the, but what you know, one of the things that excites me about this is it would expose them fuckers, man them, people that are like, um well yes, this is a diverse country.
We want immigration cool, cool.
So in Barnes, you want hostels built all around Barns.
Yeah, because it seems like Laytonstone.
They ain't down.
They ain't down in Laytonstone, so they vote against it.
But you like barns, you love it, right.
So that's where we're going to build all the.
You get a budget for it.
You've got your budget.
You're not going to spend it on roads or hanging fucking baskets of flowers, which I notice are more pro?
Uh proliferated in posh areas.
You're going to find more hanging baskets and hedges in south Kensington than you find in Luton.
But you can, you fuck your hanging baskets, motherfuckers.
Now you've got some hostels because you wanted them, right.
So fuck you.
Now we know, now we know you don't want them, do you right?
Gap your hanging baskets back and shut your fucking mouth.
Like, and that's like you know, now we've got real politics.
Now we've got real politics.
Well yeah, what are you saying, Jojo?
You're right and like I, like what uh Jake was saying there as well.
Like in a you join, it says in our common peril right, so that's what brings people together.
We have, like a common unity in recovery.
Um, what is the common unity in this country?
I really don't know.
Like everyone says oh, it's a Christian country.
Well, it ain't really, is it?
I don't think.
How is it a Christian country what?
What makes it a Christian country?
Kiest Armor ain't Christian.
Where's the Christian principles being demonstrated in government?
It's just not.
And church numbers churches are shutting down all the time here, like there's hardly any priests.
They're dwindling, you know, and that's been going on for years.
Um, I don't know man look, it's controversial to even say it in it, but you know there's, there's a lot more mosques these days, especially across London, and that.
So the culture has changed.
It like that's the reality.
The culture has changed.
And now where do you go from here?
What's the how?
How do you bring people together and accept, right?
You're Muslim, you're Sikh, and we're Christian.
How do we all live nice?
You know, do you want to live in Henley?
Should we build a mosque in Henley?
Should we build a new ship?
What is it?
I don't know.
Is that what gets you fired up about it?
Is the idea that the people that are saying, oh, we want diversity, we want diversity, but when it comes to their own area that they live in, they don't want diversity or they don't want these things.
They just want to faint like they want to present.
What we did in the Grammys just now is, I think, as good an example as you're ever going to get of people saying stuff that they're not going to pay the price for.
And we've all done it.
We all do it.
I do it in my own house with my own kids.
I can't tell you how often I notice myself saying to one of my daughters stuff like, all you think about is yourself.
But I check myself, hopefully before I wreck myself.
I do like the idea that the technology exists for like, you know, that my example is the anger of someone that feels like I've been at the heart of a culture, left the culture, but then been attacked, attacked by a culture.
I'm angry, man.
I'm angry with the culture.
And my religion tells me that there's a war coming and good.
That's what I feel like I've been waiting for my whole life.
That's what I feel like I'm being prepared for.
So I don't like, I don't want to, I know forgiveness, love, Christ.
And I know that.
What I want and what I feel is at best secondary, closer to irrelevant.
But what I like is that like the negative, the sort of rather vindictive side of it is all those people that say they want this and want that, well, go on then.
You do it.
Show me.
Show me that's what you want.
And all the people that actually do want to participate in a culture will be able to because the world is full of, you know, like there are a load of Muslim food banks, Christian food banks, Muslim people wanting to help the community, people in Muslim communities saying we don't want this sort of ghettoized culture that's about like bloody, like the worst aspects of stories that we've heard.
We want to be participants in building a common community.
We want to love our God.
Now, when someone says, like, you know, people do, no, baked into Islam is they want to take over and they want to destroy you.
Or baked into Judaism, they want to take over, they want to destroy you.
Or look at the Christian Crusades and what it's actually meant and how Christianity has played out and look at the Catholic Church and look at this church and that church and mega churches or whatever.
But that's, for me, that's institutions.
That's how institutions behave.
And my prayer is that it doesn't have to be this way.
It doesn't have to be this way.
I think also it's okay to not have everything be diverse.
So even with Dave's example of, you know, when you go to AA, you have different socioeconomic status.
You have a rich person next to a poor person.
You have somebody further along in their journey or whatever.
You can go and visit that place for however long AA is.
But to make the decision that goes, I want to go live at that crack house or I want to go live at that, you know, poor area of town, that's a totally different commitment.
So even if Billie Eilish says all the stuff she says on the Grammys, if you go a little bit further, are you willing to live in that one line you said for a longer period of time and have people live on your land and set up different structures around your house in Malibu?
They don't want to do it.
You don't really want to commit to that, but you'll commit to it for a touch.
Lack Of Good Faith00:06:14
And maybe that's okay.
Well, Amasi, I can see you want to talk and I'm going to come to you in a second.
But I think what it is, is people don't even know how to categorize what they're saying and what they're doing.
See, I know it myself because a lot of times the category I'm existing is in is say funny thing, you're on a rumble stream.
That's the category I'm in.
I'm not in, here's my true opinions about how to raise a child or the complexity of moral indications in scripture.
Like, a lot of the time I'm in play.
I'm in play.
Now, I think Billie Eilish in that moment is in, um, I'm, people are listening to me.
I'm a powerful entertainer and I'm part of a culture that is rewarding condemnation of the ICE officers.
See, do you remember when our man Pete Davidson, the brilliant comedian of SNL who lost his father in 9-11, you know, and our man Dan Crenshaw, who, of course, Eddie Gallagher hates and like some of my mates hate, like, they got together somehow, like, because I think he'd said something.
He made jokes about him, didn't he?
Pete Davidson made jokes about his eye patching like he looked like a baddie.
And they got him on the same show and they talked.
It was kind of, I liked it, actually.
You know, I liked it.
I liked that the two of them, like Pete Davison goes, well, he's just joking me.
And Dan Crenshaw was like, oh, well, whatever you think.
Like, you know, I like the idea.
What I like is good faith, actually.
And I don't think there's a lot of good faith in the culture.
I think the culture is always started with, like, say, obviously, how can I not be personal about it?
Because how can I not be?
Like, I think the main motivation behind what's happened with the trial and the case is people like it.
People like going, you're a rapist.
You're a rapist.
This is fun saying this.
This is fun.
I'm enjoying it.
I'm enjoying it.
Don't make me stop saying that.
I like saying it.
I'm not talking about complainants.
Of course, I can't talk about complaints because I'm in a legal situation, but I have theories.
You better believe it for why people have come forward.
Of course I do.
But what we can focus on now is the kind of lack of good faith when people are, you shouldn't want people to have been, like, I participate in it.
I want Bill Gates to, I want to find out that Bill Gates, oh, look, there's pictures of Bill Gates, you know, he's a paedophile.
I'd be sort of, part of me would be happy.
When really it should be, oh, I don't want Bill Gates to be a paedophile.
I don't want some child to be abused by Bill Gates.
I don't want that.
And for Bill Gates, I want Bill Gates to be happy.
He's a child of God like me, right?
That's where I know I'm supposed to get.
But it's hard to get there.
And I think that the culture has sort of given up even on that kind of aspiration.
That everyone's just like, no, I want my side to win.
Fuck you.
Let's find the right bit of video footage that shows that Alex Pretty was right.
Let's find the right bit of food footage that justifies that the Ice Agent was this.
With no kind of sense of there's a principle.
There's a principle.
And like that, you know, if we can't think like that, we're in trouble.
Yeah.
Which goes back to your point of it's too big.
It's too connected.
We're trying to move these big, massive things when those conversations of good faith and working through conflict and walking through differences happen on this level, relationship level.
And I think everybody's so connected that they've lost the individual.
They've lost the decentralized.
Well, I think about it when I do dumb voices and stuff, or like if I make a joke or a glib comment, I don't want anyone to feel hurt as a result of something I've said or done.
I don't want that.
And in fact, I want systems that afford us the ability to actually make mistakes, to make genuine mistakes, to say something, like, that was a stupid thing you said just then.
Yes, I see that now.
I apologise.
Well, what you did there has had these repercussions.
But that's not how the system works.
The system wants to destroy everyone and lie and exaggerate and make it as bad as possible.
And you see the devil in that.
Counterfeit, the accuser, synthesis.
And so in the end, the Christian argument becomes unavoidable.
It becomes, I know, it's not like, oh, this would be nice if this was true.
It's actually not nice because you've got no choice anymore.
Your choices are over.
You don't matter anymore.
You're not relevant.
What you think, what you feel, the idea that you're important.
Like if you want Christ, you give up everything else.
You give up everything else.
And that's not easy.
But the truth is, is that everything you think you've got anyway is bullshit.
Even the things that are beautiful.
Like, you know, your kids, dead in the ground.
I mean, like, it's like, it's not, it's a hard thing, I think.
I find it hard.
I find it very, very hard.
I find it hard.
I think there's a difference, though, between people directly being able to destroy your life and have no consequences if they're wrong or they're lying.
Or, I mean, like, what's going to happen when you get acquitted?
And are they going to get in trouble for going?
Oh, man.
Okay.
I lied.
Okay.
Or the, I don't know, the news crew that put together everything.
Are they going to get in trouble for it?
No, they have no consequences for it.
So when someone has no consequences for the things that they do that affects all these people's life or destroying someone's life specifically.
Well, I would take responsibility for my own portion in that inso much as that I, for a long time, lived like the only thing that mattered was what I wanted.
The only thing that mattered.
That doesn't mean that I bypassed people's consent very actually, explicitly, and emphatically, I did not.
But that's not what you're on trial for.
No, I'm not on trial.
Like what I'm on trial for, I don't understand anymore.
It's very difficult to understand.
It's very difficult to understand.
But what I will, what I want, what I would welcome is the ability to go, yeah, of course.
I was attracted.
I was when I was 30, an attractive, rich, famous person where women would get in, come into bathrooms with me, where like, you know, people freeze and people would do all sorts of stuff.
And that's like a, you need to have a strong connection with something in order to not find that appealing.
And I feel that, you know, again, no cost, no consequence.
Naivety Of Mass Migration00:05:38
All the people that are like, oh, that's this guy.
Like, well, have you ever tried it?
Have you ever had that?
Have you ever had someone walk up to you and like get on their knees and get, you know, because, you know, you need to be pretty close to God to say, no, no, that's not who I am.
That's not who I am.
I'm with God now.
You know, yeah, that's my favorite.
Yeah.
So, hey, what was you saying, Massey?
You like, you didn't say nothing, mate.
You wanted to say something, I think.
Oh, yeah, just two things really about this immigration stuff.
You've got to be careful because I'm in England and I literally could get arrested leaving the country talking about it.
But like, first thing is, reading a lot of history at the moment and all of human history is people fighting and killing each other over the slightest differences.
French people fighting British people, British people fighting Irish people, Irish people fighting Irish people over the tiniest differences.
So if you're someone from Iran where I grew up and you're looking at French people and German people, they look exactly the same and yet they've been killing each other.
I mean, Germany fought the world, right?
So to all of a sudden think that we can just import people from vastly different places and everyone's going to get along fine, I think is incredibly naive because if you take any person now and have them grow up in the Amazon rainforest, they're going to be exactly the same as person from like 100,000 years ago.
We haven't biologically changed in any way.
It's just our knowledge and our technology that's changed.
So human nature is fundamentally exactly the same.
So that's point one.
Point two is that nobody has been, anyone who's talking about importing people from the third world or wherever has never really spent any time there.
I grew up in these places.
They're great places for some reasons and terrible for other reasons.
But these people have never been there and they've never been in any kind of conflict militarily and they've never had their country invaded in any way.
My granddad fought in World War II.
He signed up underage to go and fight in World War II in the Navy.
He's dead now.
I don't know any stories from World War II.
No one around remembers the last time that England was invaded.
They have no memory of it at all.
And if you think about, if you think about what happens with rich people, someone makes a fortune and then their son generally continues that fortune or builds the business.
And by the third generation, that fortune is squandered.
We are the third generation inheritance of a fortune, which is the United Kingdom, Western democracy, and whatever.
And we're completely squandering it because we didn't in any way have to fight for it.
Yeah, that's it, basically.
Although, when you think that's good, some good analysis.
What I would add, though, is when you said about the sort of naivety of mass migration, of course, one of the analyses is that it isn't an inadvertent and inconsidered or unconsidered matter, but a deliberate attempt to create precisely the type of crisis and chaos that might precede the ability to legitimately impose different authority.
And of course, like what I've really, what was it?
What was the one I was thinking about the other day?
I was thinking about, well, it was this.
When I saw on them Epstein things, like the pizza and the grape juice, does seem to be a code for something.
I remember when all that Pizzagate stuff came onto the news, remember all of like, I think we did it.
We did a watch along with it, didn't we?
We did a watch along, good watch along actually.
It's on Rumble.
And the mainstream news going, oh, there's these ridiculous theories that pizza and that this was centers around one pizza restaurant in New York.
And what they always do is they make a claim that's obviously stupid, straw manning.
They make it that the entire claim is about that.
Now, all of that willingness to condemn and criticize and dismiss people that, you know, for a long time, lots of people have thought that powerful elites and institutions have got some weird sex stuff going on.
And it's gone from like a peripheral marginal thing or a bit of, you know, like, I mean, I don't know pre-internet what the spaces would be to talk about something like an Epstein.
You would have to be someone that I think went to an interesting university or knew someone that had been in government or something.
Like, I don't know what kind of hookup you would require to, in the same way that pornography is limitlessly accessible should you require it, forgot it in the holy name of God if you wanted it.
The same way, like this sort of information is limitlessly accessible, something that would be incredibly esoteric.
So the only way actually to combat that is to flood the system.
You've got to flood it.
So I think the misinformation and malinformation isn't coming from Alex Jones, Candice Owens, David Icke, me, Joey Rowe, whoever it is this week.
It's actually a deliberate attempt to flood the space with so much stuff that if you talk about like, well, do you think it's deliberate that people are being brought over from various countries that don't have natural cultural inclinations that are going to make cohabitation easy in a Western democracy?
People go, you are racist and shut that down.
And that's called displacement theory or replacement theory.
And it's one of the worst, most white supremacist things.
You can't even talk about it.
Shut up.
And actually, when you think about it, you're actually, it's not racist to say that.
Because who are you being racist against?
Are you being racist against the like sort of them lads that you sometimes encounter now in British cities that just feel like displaced actually?
And wouldn't it, isn't it okay to say, where have these lads come from?
And shouldn't we look at what's going on in that culture and that country that's necessitated this mass migration?
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Because presumably things are great.
And the arguments you hear back of like people that are working at the National Health Service, that's the British medical establishment and a much loved aspect of British cultural and institutional life.
I don't think anyone anywhere thinks it's wrong that there are nurses coming from Ghana or whatever.
But some people have said, well, don't you want it that sort of various African nations have themselves got good infrastructure?
And the reason I think I took a long while to even consider things because of my natural dislike of anything like racism, like replacement theory, is because I didn't like the idea that I was being sort of condemnatory or critical of people that were doing like, you know, important work and good work.
And I didn't like the idea of taking a divisive picture position.
And also because I was very sympathetic because of the old class politics and empire ideas to Britain's, you know, even more than your mad, crazy, unprecedented and crazy, incredible country.
Britain did literally go around the world taking stuff over, killing people, nicking all their stuff.
Like Britain's crazy.
It was like really India, Africa, the whole world and everything.
And so one feels that there could be a kind of retributional or karmic or tit for, there's a kind of, at least however you want to term it, there's a relationship.
One can establish a relationship.
Britain went all around these countries, nicked all their tea, spices, minerals, oil, killed people, massacred them, turned them against one another.
I'm thinking most about India, the example in my mind, because it's the most one I know most about.
And it's so obscene, the way that it was actually initially corporations that went.
And then the army and the empire went and backed up the British, the East India Tea Company, which was a corporation like making tea.
Then they started having private militia over there because the Indians were like, what the fuck's going on?
And then they said, we can't control this lot anymore.
They're really kicking off.
And the British Army just centralised the people, killed them all.
They were locking them up, shooting them.
It was really terribly barbaric and awful.
So when, like, and it was part of the Commonwealth, Britain said, we own it.
We own India.
It's ours.
Like, so when Indian people want to come and live in England, there's an argument for it.
That's the argument.
Well, you fucked our country up, nicked all our stuff.
But what was mad for me, and it's only recent, is when they try to use the same, and you can make a bit of the same argument for America, most powerful nation in the world, Iraq, Manifest Destiny, you know, like, look at what's happening under Trump.
We're having Greenland.
We've got like, it's a sort of crazy, most powerful country in the world.
This is what goes on.
But then when they said it about Ireland, I was like, no, that don't track.
That don't track.
Ireland didn't go around the world.
Ireland were trying to fight off the fucking British who were getting involved in their politics, messing with them, killing their leaders and their martyrs, controlling them, persecuting them, starving them.
So you can't say, the Irish, they're racing.
The Irish have got nationalism in them because they had to kill the people, their neighbours were trying to kill them the whole time.
So you know they're lying.
It's sort of a bit of a bigger example of Alex Pretty.
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Like, if you're telling the truth, why are you fucking lying?
I mean, like, you know, obviously that's a sort of in itself a contradiction.
But if what you're saying is true, that it's terribly unjust that Alex Pretty has been murdered.
And I would agree that it is, you know, that he's died protesting and all of it.
Of course, it's wrong and it's bad and it's awful.
But why are you making him look different?
Because you are using it.
It's just an object.
It's just an object.
And both sides do it and everyone does it.
But I just, again, back to Jake's point shows everyone's fucked and we need a radical review of how we run reality.
And that's all the weather.
Should we finish on?
It's the Super Bowl.
Well, it's the Super Bowl.
It is the Super Bowl.
It is.
What is?
It is.
It's the Super Bowl.
America is Rome.
Bread and circuses.
It's the most powerful country of the world.
Sometimes when you're not from America, you think, well, it is the most important sport.
Is it baseball?
The old traditional sport of baseball.
Marilyn Monroe, Joe DiMaggio, all of that stuff.
Babe Roof smoking a fag on the mound, all that gear.
No, it's actually football.
And I'll tell you how you can tell.
Is it basketball though?
Hoop dreams and all of that.
Michael Jordan, greatest superstar that maybe global sport has ever produced.
Could you say that about Michael Jordan?
Certainly richest, I guess.
Yeah, maybe, maybe.
No, though, it ain't because it's football, American football, because of the adverts, isn't it?
Like, that's how you know, because of their Super Bowl halftime adverts.
It tells you the culture will tell you what it reveres.
Joseph Campbell, the great American genius, he used to say, if you want to know what's important to a culture, look at its biggest buildings.
There was a time where the biggest buildings were churches, and then, like, you know, look at the city of London or Wall Street or wherever, the biggest buildings are all banks.
Now, we don't really live in buildings anymore.
We live in an altogether different digital terrain.
But there's no question that the Super Bowl is the most powerful thing in the world.
And Jake, what aspect of the I don't know who's in it, who's doing what, why it matters, any of it.
So, tell us a little something.
I mean, it's definitely been one of the least followed for me.
Super Bowls.
Dave, what about you?
I mean, are you into it at all?
No.
Why?
I don't know.
It's like college football.
Yeah, we're into college football a lot.
Racist.
But you got the Patriots.
They're back.
Right?
The Patriots.
Which you should love, the Patriots from my favorite movie.
Because of the Green Dragoons.
They're going against the Green Dragoons in the Super Bowl.
Good.
Well, those Patriots.
The Seahawks.
The Seahawks.
They're both sort of teams with good pedigree, ain't they?
Yeah, so the Patriots won like all the time with Tom Brady.
And so the Seahawks are kind of in and out.
They're always like right around there.
But it'll be an interesting game.
I think my clip is just my favorite Super Bowl halftime show that I can remember watching as a kid is Michael Jackson.
Let's watch Michael Jackson.
Nothing could stop me loving Michael Jackson.
If you're that talented, I think that the entire cast of Home Alone should just do whatever the fuck you tell them.
To me, that's peak halftime.
It's never going to be better than that.
No.
Be able to beat it.
Got a bad bunny, and a lot of people obviously politically are excited about that.
From that, what's happening?
Bad Bunny.
Yeah, he'll be the halftime.
You had Kendrick Lamar last year.
So those are all very, you know, used as tools.
But I think Michael Jackson, it's like hard to beat that.
The culture's not the same anymore, is it?
Because like Michael Jackson, I mean, it was interesting to see those children running towards him.
That's not how it would be today.
But like, you can't have a mic, you can't have a Michael Jackson now because how are you going to even have Bad Bunny?
Because isn't it like I know college football more belongs to the South and to what you might call the nationalist aspect of American culture, but football, that's working class people, isn't it?
Ultimately.
And how are they going to have someone that's gone fuck ICE when like they're all pro-military, pro-first responders type people and crowd?
It's potentially could be the same thing when they did that Bud Light campaign with the transgender person because it's just missing who drinks Bud Light.
It's the rebel flag in your audience racist, you know?
They fucked it.
They fucked it.
But they must know.
But Massey, what I think is they know what they're doing.
I don't know.
Some people who have been around go, no, they're all idiots.
They're idiots.
And sometimes I think that as well.
But I think they do know what they're doing in some way.
Like, you know, when it comes to division, like, you know, see, all of the words are about evil, about diabolical, speaks with forked tongue.
The serpent has no vertical access, only the horizontal access, speaks with the forked tongue.
And what I would say is, oh, yeah, all those words, diabolical, like splitness, split, division, that God is a unity force.
You can only have true unity in the triune form.
You need the principal, the recipient, and you need the sort of connection.
You need it somehow.
Anyway, I can't understand it.
That's beyond human consciousness, I think.
So it's beyond mine.
What's your prediction?
Who's going to win?
I think the paedophiles.
No, I mean, the Patriots.
I think the Patriots.
No?
I mean, who are you supposed to think is going to win?
Patriots.
How do you tell?
Don't you look at form or something?
Ain't someone important?
Has someone important been injured?
I'm surprised we don't have a polymarket ad for it right now.
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Never leave me.
What about Polymark?
Let's look over at Polymarket.
Oh, look, it's a squiggly line that says a green button with mouse milk on it.
And the winner will be Lord Mouse Milk.
Oh, my gosh.
Hey guys, thanks very much.
Some of that was pretty good That was pretty good.
Thanks for joining us.
Remember, we will be back Monday, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.
We'll be doing our show Crack On where we talk about recovery.
Joe, well done for staying up so late on your Technicolor dream pillow of the Aztec Mayan child murdering cult there.