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Russell Brand's Florida Chat 00:03:36
Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand actually Russell Conspiracy Theory.
Trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
Hello there, you awakening wonders.
Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with the Russell brand.
We are in the United States of America, specifically Florida, and we're talking about politics and culture in the United States with some people that I love very dearly.
They happen to be Jews.
They're not Jews, they're Christians.
There's Jake, he's over there.
Right here.
He produces the show.
There's Dave, who's over there.
He's likely to be a billionaire one day, so we're keeping a very close eye on his antics, okay?
Because he's a world power.
He's a one-man world power.
He's got his own podcast, shoot me straight.
Jake has albums available with every Christian musician he ever meets.
Also on the England, in the UK, is Joe McCann, one of the true greats.
You're right there, Joe.
I'm good, mate.
How are you doing?
Yeah, I'm thinking about what we're going to get you to do.
I was thinking about something that would be interesting for you to do, like a documentary or something like reporting that we could get Joe to do.
Yeah.
Like, I tell you what I like.
Like, we say when Davos is on, and there's that guy on Rebel News who's from Australia, he's called Sam Ari something.
He's always going up to like, I don't know, Albert Baller or some sort of CEO and going, oh, mate, what's your saying, mate?
Listen, right.
Why did you send out the people?
Excuse me.
I'm trying to get to my meeting.
Would you mind?
No, mate, I just don't.
And he's like, it really ags him out and it's intimidating.
I like it.
It's good.
And we should do it.
Yeah, you could do that.
You could do that really good.
Got a lot going on in the UK.
Got to get ready for it.
Also, beloved Massey is with us.
Where are you right now, Massey?
Space Mountain.
In England, mate.
In England.
Okay, well.
Bloody hell.
All right, well, of course it is.
We're going to be talking about, we're going to be talking a bit about Minnesota.
We're going to be talking about unrest.
I'm going to talk about Alex Honold.
Oh, you're talking about that, are you, Jake?
Three Days of Darkness.
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Who made that?
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Yeah.
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Any group of young men that can afford their own aeroplane and carry firearms in their crotches, they're friends of mine.
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So join us there and support that if you can.
Why don't we leap right away into this sort of contentious story?
Everywhere I go, people are telling me they're losing friends over this.
People are bickering and arguing over admittedly serious social unrest, predicted with eerie accuracy, some are saying, by Sam Tripoli, a guest on Rogan.
I might look at that to give myself a bit of an understanding of what's going on.
Remember, of course, a lot of my focus is on my beloved live work.
As much as I adore Rumble, Chris Pavlovsky, Claudio, the whole crew there for the great support they've given us.
And if you ain't got Rumble Premium yet, by the way, get Rumble Premium there, get extra content from me, from Crowder.
Got to go and see Crowder.
When are we going to go to Dallas?
We're gone.
We've got to go to Dallas because also I've got to go to that women's prison.
Not as a prisoner, because obviously, you know, although I may be.
No, like as a visitor, they've asked me to go to do some ministry in a women's prison.
You'll come, won't you, Dave?
Yeah.
And also, are you coming on Wednesday when we go to New York?
Why not?
What else you got to do?
Yeah, Dave, tell us.
I'm supposed to do a podcast on Wednesday.
Who with and why?
Eddie.
Me and Eddie.
Come with us.
Preparing For A New Identity 00:02:54
What's wrong with you guys?
Tell Eddie Gallagher, former Navy SEAL, exonerated and acquitted after an ISIS member died in his custody.
There's a real being in ISIS.
Hey, come on, them's the rules, kids.
Tell him that I will fight him in the nudes.
Nude fighting.
That's my offer.
If you want to come and see me at a stand-up comedy event, yeah, I guess it's that.
It's me sort of working out what we do now.
Well, essentially, it's this.
The world's changing radically real fast.
Look, I'm telling you now, you're not going to make yourself happy buying stuff.
Or say if you might be thinking, I don't know, that your kids are going to go to college, or maybe you're thinking you're going to go to Disney World.
It's not going to work out.
The apocalypse is coming.
Get yourself together.
If you're not preparing yourself right now for global holy war, you're wasting your time.
And I feel sorry for our kids.
You know, it's like Everie's birthday, your oldest kid, and like you've got lovely sort of daughters that are, I don't know, 15, 17, that kind of age.
And like you think, well, I think, what are we preparing them for?
War.
That's what we're preparing for.
I'm not necessarily talking about armed conflicts, although that does seem, on the basis of the first story today, to be a significant part of it.
If you're a member of our locals community or our Rumble community, we love you.
We appreciate you.
Any money or time you invest in us is going to support us with these very significant trials I have coming up.
As you know, I've been accused of a variety of crimes, which I, I don't say strenuously deny, because I'm not straining.
I don't get a hemorrhoid, I just didn't do it.
So, you know, go to troll.
That'll all be proven.
I suppose that's the way the world works, isn't it?
Unless there's further corruption.
But who's to say?
It'll all work out.
I'm pretty sure of that.
Certainly, I believe in God.
So I'm pretty happy being sent wherever I've got to go.
Been spending a lot of time reading Joseph, Joseph cast down a pit.
Joseph, a little show off when he's a kid.
Joseph going around predicting things, telling people what's what, wound his brothers up, they fucked him down assistant to shut his mouth for a little while for him.
Then sold into slavery, initially to men, but ultimately to God.
Goes work at Potiphar's house, gets falsely accused of rape.
He gets coat after coat.
The kid first coat is adorned by the parent.
You cannot get your worldly identity from your earthly father.
You have to get your identity from God.
Doesn't matter what your parents can offer you.
The cloak is the identity.
It sort of stands for the idea of a mask, a persona.
In Jungian analysis, the persona, and indeed in the dictionary, persona means a sort of a kind of a performance.
So all of us have a persona.
It might be a Larry Vivid one or it might be a sort of a dre grab one, but it's a persona nonetheless because your true identity is in Christ.
Joseph serves as a proto-Christ going through various environments, being fashioned in his job and then in the prison till ultimately he becomes a significant political figure.
But they say that about the chosen people.
They're very good at getting higher to the Old Testament.
Daniel, Joseph, they're always getting in there, getting little jobs in high places.
Endless Incidents and Pre-Existing Perspectives 00:14:35
Hey, there's no room for anti-Semitism.
There's no room for anti-anything.
There's only room for us to prepare for this war, which I don't think is going to be on religious lines really.
It's good versus evil.
So I suppose that's a kind of religion.
Of course, we will talk about that a little more later.
But first, let's get into what's going on in Minneapolis.
Probably, I'm guessing, because we're on Rumble, you all think that the ICE agent was in the right.
But if we were doing this somewhere else like MSNBC, everyone would be vehemently opposed.
So let's see if we can find out what the correct way to understand this complex, baffling, pullulating, ever-swarming, mad reality we're forced to live in is.
I want to start with the very first statement made by the Trump administration in the aftermath of this shooting.
It was a tweet by the Department of Homeland Security showing a firearm on what appears to be the seat of a car.
And the tweet reads, an individual approach U.S. Border Patrol officers with a 9mm semi-automatic handgun seen here.
You see the picture behind it there.
This looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.
Now we have this new angle of the video.
As it begins, you see Pretty out there in the middle of the street.
He shows up right in this area here.
You start seeing him, and he is at one point using his camera.
There he is, right there.
And he's pointing to traffic, sort of waving traffic through.
At some moment here, you see that law enforcement approaches him and he backs away as they start moving up on him.
He is not trying to move toward them.
He's backing away.
Then you're going to see one of these officers approach a woman near him and really forcefully shove her to the ground right there.
And Pretty starts rushing over toward her.
Now they're both getting pepper sprayed at this point.
He gets grabbed and he's taken over to the ground here.
I'll point out this is about 15 seconds from when officers turned to him.
He's now on the ground.
They are on top of him.
Officers are all around.
He does not appear to have a weapon in his hand.
He doesn't brandish anything.
He doesn't seem to do anything.
And then all of a sudden you see one agent in the middle there.
Look, he turns away and that's when the shooting begins.
One shot followed by, in our analysis, nine other shots there.
We heard from Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino.
He was asked at what point Pretty brandished a weapon in all of this.
This was his answer.
Ali, this situation, again, is evolving.
This situation is under investigation.
Those facts will come to light.
This is important because an important detail because concealed carry is legal.
We know from local officials Pretty had a permit to carry a weapon and law enforcement analysts here on CNN have raised questions as to why the picture of this gun that DHS shared online was shown on the seat of a car and not in the scene where Pritty was shot.
Okay, so I suppose we might anticipate that people's traditional positions on gun ownership might alter and switch.
One of the things I'd like to ask you if you're watching us at home is, well, actually if you're watching us in the middle of the street, I actually don't mind about your location.
I've just not in a position to judge that.
That last Civil War you lot had, wasn't that kind of about secession?
Like some southern states wanted to secede for a number of reasons.
Inconveniently, it seems that slavery was a part of it.
But ultimately, don't you feel that rather than live in this continual tension of maintaining a union, decentralization is a political solution that's ultimately going to have to be embraced anyway.
Why don't you grant further autonomy to states and boroughs and cities?
Do people have a problem?
Why are we trying to hold everything together?
What do you think, Dave?
You're an American person.
Yes.
I mean, in general, yes.
You need to decentralize more, use tech to do that, right, being able to have everyone.
But there's some things you're going to have to have federally.
I mean, you're going to have to have a military.
Military.
Yeah.
You're going to have to have some things federally.
Yeah, let's minimize it though, don't you think?
Stop all this madness.
I mean, couldn't you have it?
Like, say if Minnesota went, we like immigrants, we want to have loads of them, and we want it illegal.
Just go, all right, then, just make sure they stay there and that you've got the resources to look after everyone because a lot of people in other states don't want any.
Why can't we maximize autonomy?
Why is the idea of the nation even being clung on to?
Who's benefiting from this obvious temporary idea of nation?
I know there's a biblical idea of nation, but nationhood is, I think, I mean, ain't the government meant to be on the shoulders of our Lord, Jake?
Yeah, I mean, I think that's what's kind of happening, but people don't know whether it's okay to say, this is what I want to do, therefore I'm moving here.
You know, it's trying to get people to all agree, which I just don't think will ever happen.
It's not going to happen now because there's too many means for dispute and disagreement, and we live in a cultural climate.
There are wards, endless, seemingly endless conflict.
Here's a different perspective.
I mean, literally, on that incident that seems to demonstrate the presence of a firearm in the, I guess, in the fellow.
More of
these can one culture tolerate.
I mean, if you are an American and have been paying attention to the politics in your country for over half a century, 60 years specifically, you'll remember the assassinations that defined and divided your country in the 1960s.
I'm referring mostly to the murder of the Kennedy brothers and, of course, Malcolm X and Martin Luther King.
Think of the Zapuda film as it was known of JFK's assassination, presumably somewhat state-sponsored.
I think more and more people are understanding the reality behind that.
Think of how that was scrutinized.
Now, everything, there's everything, remember when it was first CCTV and like the footage went missing of the plane that hit the Pentagon?
Remember when it was just normalized as is being done currently in the UK, that facial recognition technology is going to be mass installed everywhere.
They're going to facilitate protests so they can get databases of more and more people on camera.
Now, like, and isn't like this one, there's so much for it.
I can't believe already after Good, you know, the Rene Good a week ago, we're in another, I don't even mean ICE versus protesters, though, of course, but also studying at a granular level footage as if somehow that might bring about some kind of obvious conclusion.
Because, I mean, I don't, you know, I've not been covering or observing this, but I know that this would be like everything.
There'll be some people who are just law enforcement officers have to do their job.
If they think their lives are at risk and that there's a firearm, they're entitled to use deadly force.
That's what they paid for.
And then other people, this is turning into a nazi police state.
And that's just going to happen, I think, endlessly now until, well, I'm not entirely sure.
And that's why I'm very interested to see that guest, Sam Tripoli, on Joe Rogan, who everyone said predicted with great accuracy.
Paul Schober, he's saying, what would be the motive if they knew body cams are on, cameras are everywhere?
What would be the plan?
You know, why would they do it?
Do you mean the law enforcement?
The law enforcement.
Yeah, what would be the motive to execute the guy on the ground surrounded by witnesses with body cams running?
I don't know, Paul, is the true answer.
Except everyone's emotions are running so high.
And I think in, gosh, I'm even thinking about like the low-level conflict situations I've been involved in in my life.
You're not really thinking straight.
What strikes me as pretty significant is people come to these endless incidents these days with a pre-existing perspective.
Like there are people that just want the perfect story of an ICE officer doing something utterly transgressive.
The best thing would be, if we were brainstorming it, can we get one to kill a pregnant woman like in broad daylight?
And then there's other people that want to see the worst example of a protester, a drug-addicted, crazy, sex-offending monster.
And there's such an appetite to impose these ideas on reality that reality itself, look, I mean, gosh, even when I say that, reality itself is fluxing and flexing under the freight of endless attention.
Attention is one of the components of consciousness.
The new technology we have means that time itself, another thing that's almost impossible to measure, atomic clocks aren't really super reliable.
What can be measured of velocity and entropy?
Those things refer to space and matter.
Time is a construct.
We're living in this peculiar, synthetic, eternal present.
Not the eternal present proposed by, you know, Buddha or Christ, seek thee first the kingdom of God.
No, a kind of synthetic facsimile simulacrum present.
So what I mean to say with all of those wonderful polysabic words there is that everyone's just imposing their own perspective on reality all the time en masse and that is not a sustainable model.
It's chaos.
And in chaos, elites benefit.
At the moment, the elites that benefit in are likely somewhat MAGA affiliated due to the results of your last election.
A minute ago, the elites that were benefiting were more associated with your classic Democrat neoliberal interest.
The fact though is this, whether you're a person who was out protesting George Floyd or a person that was out protesting COVID restrictions or you're a person protesting that lad Gino, whatever, the good-looking lad that killed the CEO, wherever you think you are on the political spectrum, it's all made up.
It doesn't mean anything.
It's irrelevant.
And if you don't start to focus on your actual reality, your community, your life and your connection to God, you will be herded into the paddocks reserved for the chattel that you're behaving like.
That's my pretty blunt analysis on it.
All I can see Joe looks like he's warming up to say something.
And I think it's going to be insensitive, Joe.
I know you well enough to sort of it's going to be insensitive.
But before that insensitivity, here's Tim Waltz about whom Donald Trump once went, sorry not right about that guy.
Many of us grew up reading that story of Anne Frank.
Somebody's going to write that children's story about Minnesota.
Some of us, like me, Tim Waltz, were masturbating over that book about Anne Frank.
Just the very thought of it.
Someone up there in an attic in Amsterdam, so near all those tulips, clerks, windmills and natches.
I don't know, that got Colts Waltz hard, honey.
Now, where the hell are they selecting their sign readers from in Minneapolis?
Can we get a heterosexual sign signer in here?
Are all the deaf is lesbianism making people in Minnesota deaf?
Is there something going on with women's thighs that's ruining the ear canal?
Are they done muff diving themselves into deafness?
That's the real problem in Minneapolis.
And I want something done.
I want something done about deaf lesbians.
They've got rights as well.
I'm on their side.
Okay, let's have a quick look at her.
Let's have a look, check some more.
Before any investigation is done, you have the most powerful people in the federal government spinning stories and putting up pictures.
I projected that onto her.
She is damaged.
But what about what I think?
Never mind that.
It's mostly she's put a lot of heft into the facial expressions as well.
I think the sign language, a pure signer, you wouldn't have to rely on the face.
It would all be in the signs.
You know?
That's what you want, like Bruce Lee.
It'd be all in the signs.
You can't be all gurney your way through it like she's out of her nut on MDMA.
Pictures and unrelated people who we don't know anything about and a picture of a firearm to try and spin a narrative.
I think they should be forced to use signers that have strikingly different political views so that the signer, you can tell, sort of misleading him and taking him on a wild ride.
And I say this with some personal experience because one time I interviewed His Holiness the Dalai Lama in front of an audience of 15,000 people and I think the interpreter was misinterpreting me.
Certainly the Dalai Lama was getting very angry and all I was suggesting was a little smooch.
So if the Dalai Lama can't handle a little smooch in an interview, I don't know what's happening with the guy.
Now I think what the guy kept doing, I said to Dalai Lama when I interviewed him, I goes, what's it?
He had a glass right of a beverage in it.
I go, what you got in there?
Vodka?
And he went, ha, And drugs.
I thought he's right, old Dalai Lama.
Then he pulled my beard much too hard.
It really, really hurt.
And it was a weird sensation to be in physical pain, then to look to the source of that pain.
And it's like the world's most peaceful individual, the Dalai Lama.
So I know only too well that you cannot trust translators.
I'd like to say sorry to His Holiness, the Dalai Lama, and to that translator.
You know, if like, like when they're going like this, oh, Minneapolis, oh, Minnesota, it's too much.
They're overselling it.
It's like Jim Carey doing it.
Crazy Jokes Happened 00:08:10
It's supposed to help the communication.
I was reading some of the comments that were very offended by the jokes.
What last time he did this?
Yeah, it's how they're supposed to communicate.
Have you seen the guy do the national anthem?
Man, he was like real intense and he was, I can't remember that guy's name, but that was cool.
Is it offensive?
You're not meant to critique that.
It's not a performance.
It's like, is this like sort of like as if you're not being sensitive about the Paralympics?
Is this what I'm doing?
Since I've stopped caring.
That's what happens if you falsely accuse someone of rape.
They start thinking, it don't matter what you do, people are just going to say stuff.
I'm going to have some fun with this shit now.
I was offensive before.
Well, that's me trying my hardest to be nice.
Like, so now, look, look, look, I actually, I'm a follower of Christ Jesus and therefore know that absolute love is what we owe to each other because of our love to him, because of the grace he showed us.
But like, if you're like having to confront this sort of constant, giddy, saccharine piety, this excuse for a culture that we're operating in, you've got to laugh at it because there is no other proper response, set for probably suicide which i've also you know long considered but i've decided to get don't do it No, thank you.
I thought you only had it.
I thought he said, do it.
I've always said do it.
Don't do it.
Jake, I thought we were friends.
Stop doing pushing me over this.
Okay, oh, let's see.
Hey, Gotten, Joe, let's do your insensitive opinion.
Follow my homophobia.
I'm not homophobic.
I believe people should be who they are, you know.
On the sign language thing, mate, I think when they're using facial expressions, it's like putting a bit of emotion into something.
Like, you know, you can say something 10 different ways and it'll have a different meaning.
So I'd say that's what that is there.
Well, because she's sort of going, it ain't right that that lad's been shot at the protest, and she don't want that to come across like she's being sarcastic.
Exactly.
Right, yeah.
Okay, fair enough, fair enough.
All right, here's this Antifa person saying, get your fucking guns and stop these people.
So remember, no one's got a clear and distinct opinion, even on something that we saw as absolutely partisan, like gun ownership.
Remember, gun ownership.
Who's pro-gunnership?
Oh, well, you must be from the South.
You're from Alabama.
You're a redneck, aren't you?
You're out shooting and hee-hooring and moon shining and yee-hawring and questioning Barack Obama's certificate.
No, now you're again the gun ownership.
You're a sign language practitioner.
You're gay.
Now they're like, so what's going on?
No one's got any actual permanent principles.
You need someone outside of time.
Otherwise, you're just going to be, what's that thing, Jake?
You're always saying that one blown around on the breeze of everything.
Is that in James somewhere?
Yeah, getting tossed around by the wind.
Can't be getting tossed around by the wind.
Can't do it.
That's why you need to try reborns.
My name is Kyle.
I'm Antifa.
And there's so much rage in me that I've had to record this like 15 times trying to get the message out.
Well, you're probably not the right man for the job.
What you want is someone who's fast on their feet and can handle it, doing it selfish style.
Message out.
They fucked up.
Okay, go watch my other videos.
Doesn't matter if you're not here and you're not caught up.
You've missed the fucking fight.
But if you are, it's time to shoot up.
Boots on the ground.
Nicolet and fucking 26th.
My house is four blocks away.
Go again.
We're going to have to do that again.
No, you messed it up.
And also, if you're going to have them big earlobe things, wear the earring.
You can't ever remove them.
That's a lifelong commitment.
If you're going to have them big circle earrings in your earlobes, like that's it.
You're down for life.
There's no way out of them.
Otherwise, you've got to have that mad little bullseye hanging in the center of your lobe.
I would say, so it's pretty interesting, isn't it?
He's advocating for like this, get on the streets, let's have civil war.
You've got pals like that, Dave, have you?
I think it reminds me of like a picture that's Joe like coked up for like four days.
Like not far off, mate.
That's what it was like.
Yeah.
And that could just be, that wouldn't be like a merger in the street.
That'd just be, I'm not sure I've got the right change out of the garage.
I think, right, okay, man.
Let's go.
He didn't give us the right change.
Well, now Joe is a peaceful member.
Peace-loving.
Necessary member of our team.
We need over here in the United States for us to do our jobs well.
Ironically, this is an immigration issue.
We want Joe here in the United States of America, but because of the bloody ICE agents, because of bloody Homeland Security, we can't get him over because as you can see, Joe's as Mexican as all heck.
The guy's getting held up at every single one.
He is Celtic.
They're probably connected to the Aztec folks in some peculiar way.
Something's going on.
Let's see.
Let's have a look at the rest of this lad, actually.
I identify him.
Remember when I used to go and all protests and all that stuff?
Blocks away.
Anywhere between Franklin and Nicolette and 26th and Nicolet.
Show up ready to go.
Okay.
Not talking about peaceful protests anymore.
We're not talking about having polite conversations anymore.
I am talking specifically to my fucking followers.
This is everything I have fucking talked about.
And this is exactly what I said was going to happen.
I said, no, you've gone, you've lent in.
Too much.
It's too much.
He's like three of his followers.
Bless him.
I pray for him.
I think he's probably a lovely person with kit on.
Right, let's have a look at JD Vance saying about how to turn down the curse.
It's JD Vance, the presumed next president of the United States of America, over him or AOC or Gavin Newsom or one of them.
Maybe something crazy will happen.
Who knows?
But let's have a look what he's saying.
Now, I'm headed from here to Minneapolis, where we're going to talk with some of our ICE agents, talk with local officials about how we can turn down the chaos.
And my simple piece of advice to them is going to be: look, if you want to turn down the chaos in Minneapolis, stop fighting immigration enforcement and accept that we have to have a border in this country.
It's not that hard.
If you look all across our country, what's happened in Minneapolis is happening almost nowhere else in the United States of America.
And that's because whether it's in Texas or Tennessee, it's in red states, it's in blue cities, even within our country.
Most people are cooperating with the simple principle that we ought to be able to enforce our immigration laws and get illegal criminals the hell out of the United States of America.
It's really not that complicated.
But in a few...
What about the old right to protest, though?
I mean, that is just to offer a counter argument.
I mean, what would you say if it was saying you cared about what about them COVID marches when people weren't allowed to go in it?
You know, I don't know.
People should have the right to protest in a democracy.
I'll tell you what it is.
I think this is where there's a gridlock on both sides of this polar dualistic political reality, e.g., neoliberal, option one, Republican, neoliberal, option two, Democrat, is there is no reason to mass centralize the control, organization, and government of any territory anymore.
The principle should be devolution and central authority only where necessary.
There should be a conversation about that should start now.
Where do you want centralized authority?
Now, some people might say, that's already happened, Russell.
That's what federalism is.
That's what the United States is.
Well, obviously, it's not working.
Obviously, it needs to be re-evaluated because the communications have changed, the technology has changed, and our political reality no longer reflects our capacity.
And the changes that all of us talked about for a long time, if you listen to sort of Joe Rogan five, ten years ago, many of his podcasts, he was sort of foresaw that there would be problems born out of this communication.
Even if you note what happened to the record industry and the entertainment industry and the way it's reconfigured, the way that some of the most powerful organizations on earth didn't exist 10, 15 years ago, just economic, something that's measurable.
Like things that didn't exist 20 years ago are now the most powerful entities on earth.
So things are different now.
And if our power structures don't reflect that, there's going to be tension.
Moving Assets and Breadcrumbs 00:06:53
And this is that tension.
And we shouldn't be exchanging illusions.
We should be seeking to instantiate truth.
Before we come to the psalm selected by a producer, Jake, let's have a look at one such Joe Rogan guest, Sam Tripoli, talking about these, the likelihood of there being unrest and disputes and I guess even protests on the street as early as in 2023 when this clip is from.
We're in the Bolshevik war right now, bro.
And right now what's coming up is all the pride stuff is going to be.
Okay, so I had this woman come on my podcast.
Her name's Mel Kay.
She goes, I've been talking to some people in the intelligence and they go, this gay pride stuff is going away.
And the next thing you're going to see are immigration riots.
This is going to be right around the next election.
So hand to God, we do this episode.
Next day, Starbucks is like, we're banning all the pride stuff.
And now you start seeing these little, they're putting little breadcrumbs out, man.
Little breadcrumbs.
Oh, I saw this one thing in Chicago.
Oh, yeah, the illegal immigrants are upset about where they're staying.
And these illegal immigrants who speak no English are holding up perfectly written English signs saying we're tired of how we're being treated.
And now you're starting to see this over and over again.
Eric, so everyone's always like when all these Republican governors are like sending these immigrants all over the country.
Everyone's like, yeah, you're showing those Democrats, bro.
They're moving assets.
I know it sounds crazy, but that is 100%.
What do you mean they're moving assets?
What do you mean?
Dude, these guys coming into the country, bro?
Have you seen them?
A lot of them are Chinese and a lot of them are military people.
And I'm telling you, they're moving.
And this is what's going to be right around 2024 election.
Immigration riots, people going nuts.
And listen to this, and you'll start seeing all the little breadcrumbs.
I'm telling you, that's who they want you to buy.
You're buying it.
Oh, I thought they'd be like, they're moving assets, bro.
They're moving assets.
You mean like military people?
Dude, if you study the Bolshevik war, it is happening in real time.
100%.
But I just wanted to get that out to everybody because I'm trying to warn people, this is what's next.
I think he's done a good job of conveying that information, Sam Tripoli.
I've never seen him before.
I don't know who he is.
That was really beautifully told.
And also he used the word bro a lot and had a nice sort of attribute.
And I also like that he kept saying little breadcrumbs.
Little breadcrumbs.
Have you started saying bro, stuff like that?
What are some of the things?
I say a bit more than I used to.
Yeah.
I'm praying for the day where we can comfortably use the N-word.
Now, before that, though, let's have a look at this psalm.
When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars which you have set in place, what is mankind that you are mindful of them?
Human beings that you care for them.
Why do you select this, Jake?
I think there is, that's the reminder.
He does care for us, that we are a part of this plan that he has, a story that he's unfolding.
So I think we can't just say humanity needs to just, you know, go away, but we have to find what is God's purpose for us.
It's definitely not just fighting and destroying each other.
It's very ugly and nihilistic to watch that.
Like when that guy had that green smoke coming out of him.
And actually thinking about it now, when I was going to protest, attending things like that when I was younger and on drugs, they were left-wing type protests.
And what motivated it for me was a sense that my life was being controlled by forces that didn't care about me and I didn't agree with and that they were injustice.
And I still basically feel the same way.
And I wonder then, should you think we should have...
Problem is, it's quite funny saying stuff like that about the sign language lady, but perhaps we should just be really nice and compassionate all the time and really try our best to understand the perspective of people that we strongly disagree with and try and find the good in...
What we could probably agree with is, all right, you people in Minnesota there, you're super compassionate about vulnerable people.
That's a wonderful attribute to really care about vulnerable people who can't protect themselves.
I really, that's a very strong Christian value.
It's beautiful that you believe that.
That's kind of it.
And then what's the other perspective?
Oh, that you're a nice officer, that you're very dutiful, that you're actually bold enough to put yourself in danger because of what you believe in.
But I reckon everyone thinks the opposite, don't they?
What is it we say, Joe, that people are focused on other people's conduct and their own welfare when we must focus on other people's welfare and our own conduct.
And that nun I'm reading in her book, Ruth Burroughs, she goes, sorry about that, what a terrible time to belch, you know, right, when you're bringing a nun up.
Like it's the last time to belch, isn't it?
Awful, really.
She says, in the end, put other people first.
If you're not putting other people first, you're on a blag.
You're just mucking around.
Hmm.
Got to put other people first.
Got to do it.
I think that's the goal.
And then sometimes we're just a little flesh.
We're a little flawed.
We like to make jokes.
Oh, yeah.
Childish.
Why don't we, why don't, like, should we then go down to Minnesota and be at them protests and just be really nice to everyone?
I feel like that would really be dangerous.
I'm only going if Joe wants to come.
And ironically, Joe's not allowed to judge him because of his immigration status.
Don't go.
Yeah, that'd be great.
We go down there.
Go down there.
Yeah, go down there, hand out water bottles, hand out food.
We pray for both of us.
For both protesters and ICE agents.
Yeah, we're all the same.
We're all.
Comment here.
Sorry.
You sound like a mad person, if I can say.
You have got a comment here.
You weren't part of the suspect.
You said that like a hacker.
Like when there's a hacker coming.
Come on, darling.
Suspect James says, literally the first thing they teach you in gun classes is don't get involved with the police if you're carrying.
Dave, is that true?
Yeah.
Well, and when you get pulled over, when I got my concealed handgun, the very first thing you give a police officer is your concealed handgun license and you put both hands on the wheel and you tell them where your gun is.
And then if they say that you get paper sprayed and thrown to the ground.
Well, if you did that, I mean, if you scream at them and tell them, hey, my gun's here, or something like that, maybe you get paper sprayed.
But usually they're just like, I'm like, do you want me to open my glove box?
Or if it's on me, then I'm like, do you want to, do you want me to take it out?
Like, you just let them tell you what they want.
I've often wondered if the Minneapolis Border Patrol shooter would be charged, but wonder no more.
People's Unconscious Appetites 00:14:55
Thanks to Polymarket, who've got a graph.
Look, we don't know.
I can't read graphs.
I've never understood graphs.
It's always like that to me.
I don't know if it's going to tell me that he would.
So like, not then.
Three out of four say he's not going to almost.
Okay.
Do we have a do I throw to a commercial today?
Let's do that.
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We live in a world where everything is a commodity, even greatness itself.
Many of you will have seen that movie with Alex Honold, Free Solo, where he took on El Capitan.
Just one man, plainly with a very unique mind.
I think literally he had a malfunctioning amygdala and didn't feel fear.
Alex Honold.
When I'd done Bear Grills a while ago, he had just done an episode with Alex Honold.
He was like, that's the one person I really wanted to meet, and he's so fantastic.
Because Alex Honold is living in a different reality to your eye.
He's not afraid of heights.
He's highly trained.
He's brilliant.
He's an expert.
He's got dedication.
He's got focus.
And when I first saw that movie, Free Solo, it was a sort of a wonderful insight into a sort of near-solipsistic, potentially autistic.
I'm not trying to throw around the risery labels.
Just a peculiar and beautiful and brilliant man, a kind of Harry Houdini of our time.
Harry Houdini, of course, though, died doing what he was famed for, escapology.
Got himself all bundled up in a box, thrown in a shark tank, one of those things.
I think he just died, suffocated anyway, had a heart attack or got punched in somehow.
I can't remember anyway.
My point is this, that America's always had this P.T. Barnum appetite for greatness.
But what's astonished me in watching Alex Honold climbing that building called something like TPP out in South Korea?
How quickly, TPP, how quickly the culture can turn something organic into a ghoulish, vulgar, empty, hollow spectacle.
The culture is banalizing everything.
Even people getting shot in the streets in Minneapolis.
You don't know how to talk about it no more.
Even a person like me, basically sensitive, weary and exhausted by watching weirdly cast sign language folks signaling more than information to the deaf, signaling a political perspective.
Lord, is it possible that we could focus ourselves on the greatness of Alex Honold without turning it into a spectacle?
Indeed, it was spectacular to see him ascending that building.
I watched it on Netflix.
Let me know in the comments and chat if you watched it.
But let me know if you felt that kind of hollowing out of watching something beautiful being turned into a muck experience.
Pew, pre-chewed, grey, gruel, everything stripped of majesty in this senseless, shallow, vacuous culture.
This is actually Jake's clip.
When we come back, Jake, you'll tell us why you selected this.
That, and here is people from inside.
You can see him right here.
We're on the 89th floor.
We're trying to keep sort of a reverent hush so as not to break his concentration.
Here's the things that struck me about it, right?
Is that for Alex Honold, who's a person who's used to climbing up mountains with their inconsistent, variable, and unpredictable surfaces that might be subject to weather and detritus and wetness and decay and crumble, climbing that building, even though to any normal person it would be terrifying to me, it's probably like a great big jungle gym, just a great big climbing frame with really easy grips and things to hold on to.
And I was sort of wondered that and was curious about it.
That doesn't sort of diminish the achievement in my mind.
What does diminish the achievement is the way that like Netflix had like a panel of people sat in the street and someone that was a wrestler?
Again, not an attack on these individuals.
Just the culture itself is making everything into some sort of like bubblegum for the mind.
What did you make of it, mate?
Well, like when Free Solo came out, I knew he made it and I ended up watching that while I was on a plane.
And that was an interesting dynamic.
Wow, because you were scared for yourself.
You managed to be scared for yourself.
I wasn't even because of the plane, just the feeling.
I knew he made it, but just seeing him up on that.
And that was kind of sad.
I didn't watch it live, the Netflix thing.
It was live.
I thought it was interesting that it rained the day he was supposed to do it.
So then I had the thought, do they just go wipe the whole building down?
Like, because he went the very next day and went live.
So that was crazy.
But then even watching it again, I was that nervous feeling of just, he's going to fall, even though you know he made it.
I find it hard to be like, you know, in a way, isn't it impossible for me to be objective about the culture?
Because I'm an apostate.
Like I'm a former priest of the culture, cast out of the culture, and now I'm enraged by the culture.
So like I'm not good at being objective.
Like even things that I really like, lifelong loves of mine, West Ham United Football Club, like it's hard for me to get, because everything is so shellact in the culture's sticky livery, I find it hard to enjoy even things that I've loved my whole life, you know, and I find it hard to see the authenticity and beauty and God in things now.
And it's pretty easy perspective to have because so many things are so appalling and revolting.
And I thought this was a perfect example that Alex Honold is a genius and a beautiful oddity.
And like having to watch him and his girlfriend kissing and like the mandatory bits of bullshit that pave across the truth of anything worthwhile and nothing having any value except for economic value.
And I feel like the culture needs to stop and give up.
I suppose this is the exact format of sour grapes, really.
But when I think of like the Oscars, are you still doing this stuff?
Are you still doing this?
People like getting, like, that's what that clip was, Massey or Isaac or whatever, cut about like the Mark Ruffalo thing.
Because with Ricky Gervais and Mark Ruffalo, you've got sort of two perfect objects, haven't you?
You've got Mark Ruffalo turning up at the Golden Globes saying, I can't believe I'm here, you know, when everything's going on in Minneapolis.
And you've got Ricky Gervais shredding it.
But I suppose a better analyst than I might say, well, both Ricky Gervais and Mark Ruffalo are still participants in the culture in their own way.
One playing the role of the cynic, the other one playing another role within it.
And surely the only, like you've said before about like with Christian folk, like that have gotten big in the Christian space and then come back as I'm the ante, get big in the Christian space guy.
Like, what if you're actually against this stuff?
Fuck off.
For good.
Yeah.
Yeah, stop doing it.
So what do you think about like, what did you take from the Alex Honoral?
Just like, isn't it extraordinary?
Well, I think he's extremely gifted and talented.
It's crazy that it's become so normal for these spectacles that people don't even appreciate what he even did.
There was comments saying he had a little ladder at the very top.
The part that he actually physically could not climb because it was so slick.
He had this wonky looking ladder that he had to make it all the top after going all the way up this building.
And people were like, oh, it doesn't count.
He had a ladder.
Here's a few things.
So see South Park, right?
They're geniuses, aren't they?
Trey Parker in particular.
And Matt Stone also is the person that's holding it together with him.
Like that came from one VHS of like, you know, Jesus and Santa Claus owning about who Christmas is really about.
And from that tiny artifact, he's like, you know, 30 or 40 seasons of it, whether they're done movies, merchandise, like the sort of atomic explosion, the light held in that particle of creativity was so luminous and powerful that it's enough to create all that.
Then think of when, like, you know, we're all of an age where when YouTubers started to like, YouTubers making money, that's fucking disgusting.
When I were a lad, it were like, the first of the precursor to that idea was reality TV stars.
Like in our country, reality TV stars, I think you had the same thing when people out of Jersey Shore or whatever would become stars and get their own shows and turn up on things.
Well, in our country, that one was like Big Brother.
That was the one.
And it brought out like proper underclass stars, like not just working class.
We're talking like people like traveler level, kind of like, fucking hell, like rowdy people that didn't look illiterates, illiterates, like becoming famous.
Like they've got totally different social values.
And I'm thinking in particular of Jade Goody, who was a sort of a sensation that emerged our big brother, who went through this mad cycle of being really hated and vilified, a bit like that movie, the Stephen King movie, Carrie, and then everyone realizing, oh, fuck, we've gone too far hating her.
We better we can't do this because people sometimes are confronted with their own unconscious appetites to vilify, bully, condemn, damn, and to just want desperately to hate someone.
And like the culture does it a lot to women.
They did it to Princess Diana, Amy Winehouse, Britney Spears.
They like to shred up the ladies.
Like as a, I think it's some sort of the sacrifice model myself.
I think it comes from human sacrifice and virgin sacrifice ideas.
That's my own pit theory on the matter.
So like, and like they're with, so when like those people start come stars, people are like, why are they stars?
They ain't no good at nothing.
Like they can't juggle or or paint or something.
But then, but the precedent to celebrity was aristocracy prior to the founding of your great nation.
Like the stars were all like, Lord Biden, you can write a poem, that guy.
And like sort of, and then just people that were good looking.
And they were just aristocrats and generals.
And like our country had a class system.
At least there is some sort of, oh, I don't know.
I want to say, I was about to say meritocracy, but I caught myself.
There is no meritocracy.
There is commodity.
What replaced aristocracy was commodity.
If you can be turned into a product for a while, they'll use you.
If you can't, as Ricky Jermais says brilliantly, fuck off.
But no one says it quite like him in that Golden Globes.
But what I mean to say is that that is the under to see that happen, I suppose, to Alex Honneld.
I'm sure he can protect himself and he's got his life and he knows how to do it.
And like, oh, I've got to do is be on the TV.
I'm giving him this much.
I'm not going to give him any more than that.
But like, you know, God forbid that Alex Honneld should be complex.
Or, you know, like, it's just with someone like Jade Goody, a working class person turned into a celebrity who later said racist stuff on telly because she comes from a class and a culture where that is completely normal and not even considered racist.
She would spend more time with black and Asian people than any of the people that were condemning her and have more Asian and black friends than any of the people condemning her.
But if you said a word that is a racist word in British, it's packy.
It is a racist word, but I'll say it, I suppose, for the purposes of you knowing what it is.
But I wouldn't say it in a derogatory or hurtful way.
I'd hate for anyone to be hurt by anything that I've said or done ever, actually.
Packy?
Oh, Dave, don't lean into it.
But is that the same as Pikey?
It's not.
All right, that's not so racist, though, right?
Joe McCann, let's hand it over to Joe.
Joe's live for like, Joe, go on, talk these guys through piekeys and packies.
Yeah, that is actually the same, the same saying, right?
I was actually at the gym the other day with a mate of mine who's Pakistani and a friend of mine who's a traveller bumped into him in the changing rooms and he said, look, I suffer racism all the time.
They call us pikeys, do as you like, East, they're not over there, all that sort of stuff.
You know?
I just know about pikeys.
They like caravans from you gotta be careful saying that.
That's like dirty word.
I learned that.
That's what I was over there.
Snatch did that.
That's what I was quoting too.
I know.
Snatch.
Good movie, though.
You racist.
That's like I was going to say in the end word.
Oh, you the same?
No way.
That's not the same.
Well, the pikeyards.
To that community, it is.
Yeah, it is.
It's racist against them because...
I'm sorry.
All right, okay, right.
Right, you've made a mistake.
You've said something I know something about.
Now you're going to have to listen to me.
From when people started to settle and build communities at the advent of agriculture, i.e., people don't have to follow food around no more.
We can grow food so we can settle.
We can build towns and communities.
Some people continued with a nomadic lifestyle.
The nomadic people were always regarded with cynicism and doubt, the troubadours, the wandering minstrels, the people that move through, the shaman, the mysterious folk, because they don't need to build relationships.
So the logic goes, and therefore they're less reliable.
And the very things that people say about travelers and you know, using the racial slur, you'd have to say pikey there.
They say, oh, they're going to nick your baby.
They'll come and they'll tarmac your drive and do a bad job of it.
There's like loads of things.
And those sort of slurs exist everywhere.
Well, Joe, you probably know more travelers than any of us I would have thought because of your connections to boxing and all of that.
And like, but what I've seen is that they've got actually like pretty good code of ethics, but they're sort of tribal folks.
Like they're tribalized.
Nomadic Perceptions 00:08:26
What do you think about it, mate?
Yeah, they're very traditional people.
That's what I'd say, old-fashioned sort of traditions.
And they do.
They suffer a lot of racism because they keep within their own sort of community.
And they, like I say, very old-fashioned.
And look, I've met a lot of good people, a lot of good people, travelers, but they do get a lot of stick, you know, and it seems to be almost like they're not represented for that.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, it's fair enough.
Well, they're not participating in the system in some way because, like, the famous thing is they don't pay tax and that kind of order, that kind of stuff, innit?
But really, but so there's the real problem is they've gone, we're not operating inside of this system.
So whether it's like the travelers or the Amish, the people that we should be emulating after, who are people who are going, this is my community, this is how I want to live.
Hopefully I'm open-hearted and tolerant and love other people and want to learn about other cultures.
But the reality of my life is us lot grow the food, these lot do the protecting if there's any kind of problems.
These lot are looking after the kids.
This is how we're running it.
We've got our own little ways of doing it.
There are basic understandings that we don't mess with vulnerable people.
That there are sexual, moral, and ethical laws that hold us all together.
You know, like other than some basic universal truths, which curiously enough are the other things that the neoliberalist post-structuralist movement tried to deny existed, i.e. they said there is no objective thing of good and evil.
Everyone's got their own truth.
There's nothing wrong with this, nothing wrong with that.
Once you dispatch that crap and just go, no, there is.
Forget Foucault and Derrida and the post-structuralists and embrace indeed the truth of God.
You know if you're doing something right or wrong.
Let's stop wasting our time trying to pretend that there's a thousand different rights and sort of some sort of hegemonic patriarchal class imposing law and order.
If you're able to protect, protect, if you're able to serve, you should serve.
If you're in a position of power, it should be a position of service.
You should always have people in leadership positions answerable to the people that they serve.
You should never allow positions of power to become entrenched.
You should recognize that all of us are in the same relationship to God, i.e. we are creatures, we are subordinate to him.
We have different abilities, different deficits.
All of us are broken.
We're all here and we're all going to die.
And if we don't love one another, why are you going to be a disgusting mess and it might go on for all eternity, as I've been led to believe.
And like people that are living in community have at least understood the first part.
Well, why don't we all look after one another?
Now, Christ wants to remove limited liability for the category of neighbor to include everyone in the whole world.
And that is what we should be aspiring to.
But you can't achieve anything at all when you're atomized and global.
You're a self-obsessed individual living in a global community.
And all you really care about when you drill down to it is your amount of pleasure and pain.
That's all you're dealing in.
You might as well be polymarket.
All you're after is pleasure and pain, dressing it up, justifying why this bit of pleasure you're entitled to, justifying why this bit of pain shouldn't happen.
Oh, this person in Minnesota's done this.
This person over in there's like, you don't know nothing about fuck all.
Just settle yourself right down, get in touch with the Lord Almighty and do something less daft.
Fuck off.
For loving days.
That's my perspective.
That's pretty good.
Cut that up, Massey.
Stick it out, makes a few quids.
Stick a reborn ad on the end of it.
We'll build a citadel.
We'll arm ourselves to the fucking teeth.
We'll teach people how to unhook themselves from these systems in the holy name of Christ.
And we'll fight this war because that's what they want.
But not on the front foot, learning from beloved Gandhi and Martin Luther King that the first thing is mass disobedience, total disobedience.
And to have the stones to disobey, you've got to be willing to die, innit, Joe.
100%, mate.
All right, that's where we went on old Alex Hammond climbing a building, Honold.
Honold!
Hanold.
Honold.
Hanold.
Go on in, Joe.
Take us out with your wonderful three days.
What is now, Joe McCann, with three days of darkness?
What are you talking about?
Right, so the three days of darkness.
This is, it's Catholic prophecy, right?
So it's not like you have to believe it.
It's not church doctrine.
There's like three of the saints, Padre Pio, Blessed Anne Maria, Tadgi, they prophesied this.
There was one other as well.
I can't remember who she was, though.
And this was between the 18th century and the 19th century.
So they all vary.
There's slight variations between the three prophecies, but most of them say that it's going to start with like an illumination of consciousness, right?
So think like St. Paul on the road to Damascus.
But you're going to have this big experience where you're going to see yourself as God sees you, right?
This is then followed by the three days of darkness.
So thick, dark smog essentially is going to cover the earth, right?
You ain't going to be able to go outside.
No artificial light's going to work.
All you'll have or is suggested that you have is blessed beeswax candles, right?
Remember that.
So keep them indoors with you.
Now, during this time, you can either repent of your sins, come back to Christ and be redeemed, or you get consumed by demons and the black smog.
And Padre Pio even said this, right?
This is where it gets like pretty scary.
He says that like the demons might even come in the form of loved ones or relatives and try and lure you outside.
So it's pretty scary stuff.
So the takeaway point, stock up on blessed candles, methylene, blue and colostrum, if you like.
That won't do you no art.
Now, we could sell.
So this is what I quite like.
I've done a little deep dive on this and made some notes here.
So there's things to look out for in the build-up to this, right?
So some say that the Antichrist will rule for three years first.
Then there's a little checklist things to look out for, which I listed, right?
So it says false worship, close of churches, rebellion against God, pride in human knowledge, breakdown of the family unit, corruption, revolutions, floods and earthquakes.
So there's going to be like global disasters and all that as well.
And then this ends in a return of the light, the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
That's good work there, my beloved brother.
What if in, I know, I know it ain't scriptural.
You said it's like catechism or Catholic prophecy, but what if the use of the word day is maybe like the creation story defining a movement or unit of time rather than a 24-hour relationship between the sun and the earth?
So like it's because I think we're already in it.
It sounds like that's like we might have been in that.
I mean, I don't know how, and no one does, thankfully, how to sort of interpret the temporal in scripture or in prophecy.
But what it does seem to me is that that heavy darkness, that image is sort of a powerful scriptural image.
In Exodus, Moses, in his approach to Yahweh, has to move through thick cloud.
And any of you to have ever thought of killing yourself, and Jake thinks I should do it.
Jake didn't say, he said the opposite.
I love Jake.
Like, any of you, that's what you pass through is a cloud of darkness.
I think sometimes, you know, when people say the moonlanders didn't happen because there's an asteroid belt that people can't envisage how the shuttle was meant to have got through.
It's one of the things that people who believe there were no moon landings say.
And I feel that there is something you have to pass through, and this is mythically quite tight too, I believe, in order to become enlightened.
Paul got shazammed off the back of that nag, didn't he, on the way to Damascus?
But most people's white light experiences, I think, are on the back of successive crises.
But for all we know, Saul of Tarsus was so depressed with his way of life.
Like he's holding the jackets while they're burning Stephen or stoning him and he's like watching all this and something in him is like, this ain't right.
This isn't working.
This isn't working.
And think about your own experience of personal awakening.
Those of you that have entered into that as an adult, it was preceded, wasn't it, by like a sort of an almost inconceivable darkness.
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I'm not suggesting that these three days are not true because I think they are true.
I'm just wondering about the way that it will play out.
But perhaps what's even more interesting than that, and we'll have to save this story for our Rumble Premium viewers, is that Joe's accruing this information.
Is it all right to talk about it?
Joe's going and visiting like different Franciscan friaries and hanging out with like badass monks that sound like they should be played by like Brendan B, like sort of like Brendan Gleason style mad hunched monks, like all sound like proper badasses.
So we'll be talking more about that because in a sense what this show is for these days, yes, of course, we're proud supporters, allies and partners of our friends at Rumble.
And of course, any economic partnerships that they have, we want to support those as well and be good colleagues and friends to these beloved supporters who have been so bold and brave in their actions and attitudes towards us.
But I'm actually, tell you the truth, I'm like, the two options for me now are either what Jake's alluding to, like, no, not to be sorry, check out, like go live the sort of hermetic life, hermetic monastic life of just like, oh, but then I've got kids, so I'm in the world.
And then, or fully, like, whatever the equivalent is of religious devoutness in preparation for war.
But because I've been such an egomaniac most of my life, I'm going to see which one God wants and just do that one because I can't be bothered to keep pushing this stone of myself up a hill for all eternity.
It's absolutely exhausting.
So if you've got Rumble Premium or locals, click the link in the description.
Join us for another 20 minutes while we're talking about Joe's visits to Franciscan monasteries that sound to me like ISIS training camps.
And when you look at them like that, it makes more sense that Joe would go.
And we'll also be chatting about Massey's, going to be talking about chat GPT murders.
Dave inexplicably has lemons.
I don't think Dave's trying, frankly, with the clips.
That's the impression I'm getting.
But we'll be with you in a matter of moments.
We'll be back on Wednesday.
Not with more of the same, but with more of the different.
Until then, if you can, please stay free.
And for the rest of us, let's crack on with our things.
Go on it.
What?
We've got anything to do?
Like an adv or anything?
No, Dave's got to be.
Oh, Dave's got, you've got to go, mate.
Dave, so, but then we're going to have a spot.
Square.
Come back.
We've got a work phone call.
Yeah.
We need to put something in Dave's Square.
We put Jesus's head.
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