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	Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand and Russell trying to bring real journalism to the American people awakening wonders.
	Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
	We are live, lost in a whirlwind, 96 Bond in Clyde.
	Me and my girlfriend, Dave, how's it going?
	You alright, mate?
	Doing good.
	It's nice to see you.
	It's nice to see you too, Jake.
	Good to be here.
	Good to see you both.
	Hey, okay, now look, there's quite a lot to deal with, but when is there not these days?
	I mean, we're going to start by talking about the Ukrainian peace deal and whether or not this Ukrainian peace deal.
	I mean, I actually am uncertain about what to even take seriously in reality in the most general way.
	Trump says only a few sticking points remain in Ukraine-Russia peace talks as Kiev reportedly backs framework.
	But even something like a peace deal in a long-ranging conflict seems secondary to a fractured and fragmented media space where every day brings new, baffling, and confusing stories.
	With most people reaching now into esotericism or conspiracy to try to unpack and understand a world that is, man, it's difficult to understand these days.
	So we'll be covering that in a little bit.
	But before that, I've got a few things to tell you.
	One, turning point.
	I'm going to go to Turning Point on the 18th of December.
	Let me know, guys, in the comments and chat what you think about that.
	Do you think it's the right thing to do?
	How do you feel about it?
	Again, it's another one of those stories where if you only pay attention to one particular stream of media, you would get a very particular impression of it, wouldn't you?
	Like, say, for example, you watched only Candace Owens.
	What would you think about Turning Point and participating in Turning Point?
	But then you see something like, I feel like I didn't even watch the clip because I try not to watch too much of this kind of stuff, to tell you the truth, so as I don't go insane.
	I don't know how you lot cope with it, to be honest.
	And I saw like Erica Kirk addressing the idea that some people said she was having an affair with JD Vance, right?
	And that's the kind of thing, you know, and she just said, well, this is ridiculous.
	She sort of saw it as absurd.
	But I'll tell you what's, you know, and, you know, plainly it is absurd.
	Plainly absurd.
	But what is so difficult these days is that we're living in such a fluxy, fluctuating, plastic and mobile space that I just find it hard outside of Christ to know what to believe in.
	And indeed, one of the few things that gives me comfort, and let me know in the comments and chat if you agree with this, wherever you're watching us, if you're watching us on Rumble or Rumble Premium, and I hope you are because if you subscribe to Rumble Premium, it benefits me financially.
	And you, let's put you first for a moment, you get additional content from Steve Crowder, you get content from Glenn Greenwald, from all of like Rumble's Premium creators, and you get an ad-free experience over there.
	We'll be on for a while.
	And what I want to know from you, Lot, is where are you drawing your faith and your trust from now?
	What is it you can rely on?
	Because I suppose I've started to see, I'm reading David Icke's new book, and David Icke is, of course, a divisive figure, but think about the number of times he's been right about stuff and ahead of it.
	What I get from reading him is like that all of the cultural and political conversations that we have are kind of, you know, fleas on a dog's back or yet another metaphor.
	You think you're in control of your life, but you don't control your cardiology, your digestive system.
	You barely control your respiration.
	I mean, you can voluntarily inhale and exhale, but you don't know what your pulmonary artery is doing right now, do you?
	And don't you think that the anatomy is the perfect metaphor for how easy it would be to disassociate from the deeper and abiding reality?
	I.e., isn't it miraculous that science can perform surgery on, for example, My Heart's Son?
	But isn't it yet more miraculous that hearts exist at all?
	Let me know what you think about that in the comments and the chat.
	Over the course of the show, we're going to be talking about the, I went and saw that film Wicked.
	I've got daughters.
	I've got a seven-year-old and a nine-year-old daughter.
	So I went and saw that film Wicked and it's spurred a lot of thoughts in me.
	Let me know if you've seen that movie and see if you can get on this.
	Kids that are watching Wicked these days, if they watch Wizard of Oz at all, they'll see it from the perspective of already being told that Alphaba is the goodie and that Dorothy killing Alpha Bar was a kind of inadvertent murder of a good person.
	And it's so interesting to live in a revisionist time.
	Again, what's true?
	What's the source?
	Is Wizard of Oz the source or is Wicked the source?
	Is independent media the source or is the prestigious New York Times the source?
	And aren't you appraised yet of the obvious fact that none of these places, sources, or resources are 100% reliable or probably even 50% reliable?
	You're right there, Massey.
	Where are you?
	In Canada still?
	Yeah, still in Canada, mate.
	Go back to England on Saturday.
	Good.
	Well, I hope that all works out for you.
	Joe, I can see where you are, although I was astonished.
	I feel like I saw our shot that you were possibly smoking, which I know is definitely small.
	I can see smoke coming horizon.
	Might be a fire.
	Could be a fire.
	Hong Kong is ablaze.
	Joe's apartment is ablaze.
	Certainly won't be smoking there because that, I tell you now, is not allowed.
	Okay, let's have a quick look.
	I mean, do we care about the Ukraine thing?
	I mean, I'm not saying, of course we care.
	People are dying in wars and stuff.
	But I mean, it's like you sort of update yourself on Ukraine versus Russia 10 minutes later.
	There never was a war in Ukraine, Russia.
	It's George Soros just making a bunch of money.
	Oh, Black Rock were invested in a digital new democracy.
	Zelensky was an actor.
	Did you foresee that blob of cocaine falling out of his nose?
	I mean, like, it's just, in a way, did you see that blob of cocaine falling out of Zelensky's nose?
	No.
	I bet Joe saw it.
	Did you see it, Joe?
	I haven't seen that, no.
	It might not.
	I mean, he was doing like one of his speeches, and he was sort of like shooting it on quite a low, look like he was shooting on an iPad from sort of like down at this kind of angle, and some ink fell out of his nose.
	Now, it might not have been cocaine, but people already a little bit think that Zelensky is getting his charge from, you know, from the coca leaf, the humble coca leaf.
	I wouldn't doubt it.
	And do you know, like, well, do you know, like, did you know that the Zelensky story, our friend Gavin DeBecker, I saw Gavin Debecker describing this on Joe Rogan, that Zelensky was, we all know he was a comedian and an actor, but did you know that he was a comedian in the show?
	And in the show, a comedian is a sort of stalking horse candidate in a Ukrainian election and then wins the election.
	And then the name of the fictional party in this actual TV show was something like the people's power.
	And then while still doing the show, Zelensky registered the name of the party, as did the acolytes around Zelensky, you know, the People's Party or whatever.
	They registered that name.
	Then a year after that, backed by an oligarchical Ukrainian figure, he ran for actual president.
	And what do you know, became president?
	So again, all of my points today are, where do you, what is your locus of truth and reality?
	We've said many times on this show before, if you don't have like local relationships, for rectal use only, who's put that on my pen?
	Is that Rob Sombi?
	That's a rub special.
	Of course it is.
	For rectal use, who would put, what kind of sick recovering meth addict would put for rectal use only?
	Well, the fact that he went and ordered a whole roll of them, he got them in a bulk.
	He put bulk.
	like thinking that's not a one-off joke he thinks that's gonna that's going everywhere yeah Yeah, for sure.
	I hope to God he's put one on his own penis.
	That's my only hope.
	Okay, let's cover this Ukraine peace deal and see if we ourselves are capable with the access to information we have and our awareness, hopefully, of our biases, picking our way through this madness.
	With awareness of the irony that this statement should elicit, here's Fox News reporting on it.
	All right, so we are getting an update on the push for peace in Ukraine.
	A US official is now telling Fox that the Ukrainian side has agreed to a peace deal with some minor details still set to be sorted out.
	Meanwhile, Army Secretary Dan Driscoll met with Russian officials in Abu Dhabi, Driscoll's office saying, quote, late Monday and throughout Tuesday, Secretary Driscoll and team have been in discussions with the Russian delegation to achieve a lasting peace deal in Ukraine.
	The talks are going well and we remain optimistic.
	Very, very optimistic.
	Yeah, I mean, with the language with that, if it is true and the Ukrainians go forward with it and you throw it back into Putin's lap, what does he do?
	Does he accept it or if he rejects it, then what happens?
	Who cares what that bloke in the jacket feels?
	Well, you throw that back into Putin's lap.
	What if his trousers are bunched up and it looks like he's got a heart on under there?
	What then?
	And then Putin is embarrassed about that, so we overreact.
	Like, who cares about the conjecture of these lunatics?
	Let me know what you think about that in the comments, would you?
	Here's Trump's post on Truth Social.
	Over the past week, my team has made tremendous progress with respect to ending the war between Russia and Ukraine.
	A war that would never have started if I were president.
	Last month, 25,000 soldiers died.
	Horrible, brutal, terrible facts of war.
	The original 28-point peace plan, which was drafted by the United States, has been fine-tuned with additional input from both sides, and there are only a few remaining points of disagreement.
	In the hopes of finalizing this peace plan, I've directed my special envoy, Steve Witkoff, to meet with President Putin in Moscow, and at the same time, Secretary of the Army, Dan Driscoll.
	I mean, I suppose what stares us in the face every time we analyze to the degree we do this type of content is that media is altered forever.
	Trump was the pioneer of this initially on Twitter, like recognizing that he can directly access his audience and he can tell you in not granular detail, but in broad strokes.
	Oh, right, so Dan Driscoll is going to be meeting with the Ukrainians.
	I'll be briefed on all progress made along with VPJD, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Secretary of War, Pete Hegzev, White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles.
	I look forward to hopefully meeting with Zelensky and Putin soon, but only when the deal to end this war is final or in its final stages.
	Thank you for your attention to this very important matter.
	I love the way he does that sign-off after doing it.
	And there's all hope that peace can be accomplished as soon as possible.
	Okay.
	So it seems to me, like, from the broadest and most superficial perspective, because that's the only one I can offer you, because I'm deep, deep in trying to discover Christ in myself in my own limited and broken way.
	That what Trump is doing is sort of riding the cascading waves of domestic turmoil by occasionally brokering what seemed to be seismic peace deals like the one in the Middle East.
	Did that hold?
	Or like this one?
	Does that seem what it's like to you guys?
	How do you feel right now about that way that the ICE stuff is unfolding?
	Have you watched any of Mamdani doing press, man?
	Like the world is a truculent and crazy place right now.
	I mean, he's both likable and extraordinary.
	Sam Harris, the atheist Buddhist, says that Trump deserves the Nobel Prize for the return of the Israeli hostages taken in October 2023.
	Let's have a look at Sam Harris's perspective.
	I think he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for having brought the hostages back.
	I have no problem.
	Who gives a fuck about the Nobel Peace Prize?
	This is a made-up thing.
	Who gives a fuck anymore about things like the Nobel Peace Prize?
	It's like made up.
	You know, they, I don't know, maybe it's prestigious, but can you get it up anymore for anything?
	Like, I want a Grammy!
	I got a Nobel Peace Prize.
	I got a bonnet.
	It's like getting excited about finding a dinosaur in your Cheerios.
	Who cares?
	Like, the Nobel Peace Prize was set up by the Nobel family after they got some bad blowback, forgive the pun, for their invention and source of their wealth and revenue, dynamite.
	Nobel are not in the peace business.
	They're in the business of blowing shit up.
	And when they need it to get some good PIs.
	God, would it be too audacious and brazenly hypocritical for us to sort of start a peace prize thing?
	Oh no, people would surely spot that.
	No, no, people would hanker after it.
	People would go, wouldn't it be amazing to get a peace prize?
	We'll have a ceremony, red velvet chairs.
	People love that shit.
	No, they're not idiots, are they?
	They're not morons so divorced from divine connection that they'll buy into any ball ball you stick in front of them.
	I bet you if right now someone could tap me on the shoulder and go, do you know what, Russell?
	It's really weird because I did hear that they were talking about you for a Nobel Peace Prize.
	I'd go, I'd probably start crying.
	Like, I remember one time, like, early on, my mate, Martino, God rest his eternal soul.
	Like, when like Sarah Marshall came out or was coming out or something, like, he goes, like, he goes, people are talking about you like as a nominee for a best supporting actor, Oscar.
	And I was like, yeah, the Oscars are a verifiable and good thing.
	Like, I remember just like being totally willing to get on board.
	Like, our willingness to participate in the illusion is an absolute requirement.
	We'll be talking about COVID and the pandemic period, by the way, a little later.
	Because it's very difficult if you've vaccinated all your kids to start going, whoa, I just hope that these studies that haven't been done to demonstrate that there's no link between vaccines and autism, I hope these undone studies haven't been undone because there is a link between vaccines and autism.
	Because I don't want to go through that.
	I don't want to go through that pain.
	We are willing participants.
	We are tent pegs in the great canopy of their illusion, if you want to enter into that metaphor for me.
	Nevertheless, here's Trump saying that he doesn't like the cover of Time magazine, or at least the picture.
	Time magazine wrote a relatively good story about me, but the picture may be the worst of all time.
	Caps.
	They disappeared my hair and then I had something floating on top of my head that looked like a floating crown, but an extremely small one.
	Really weird.
	I never liked taking pictures from underneath angles, but this is a super bad picture and deserves to be called out.
	What are they doing and why?
	I'm sort of always like with Trump, like caught between how can he care?
	How can the person that's actually nominally and at least on the surface, as far as we know, the most powerful person in the whole world maybe given the maneuvering in the Supreme Court, the most powerful president in history, how can he care, as he did at the UN when he gave that talk, about the tiles that they used and how he would have used better tiles if they'd awarded his construction company the contracts?
	How can he care about Time magazine thing?
	Like, but in a way, on the other hand, it makes me sort of like him because I remember how it felt when The Guardian, when I in the UK, you know, and I recognize my pip squeak fame compared to this sort of mega historical figure, whether you like him or not, you'd have to agree that he's sort of a contemporarily incomparable figure.
	Like, see, I said no voting.
	I'd said don't vote.
	And I, I, and Joe, you me and you wouldn't have known each other then, nor me and you, Massey, but we're all from sort of similar backgrounds, by which I mean sort of I'm assuming, you know, but somewhere between working class and lower middle class backgrounds, essentially where you're you're not vested in the system because you've, you know, because of it for economic and social reasons.
	And I said at that point, no one votes that I know because they all know it's total bollocks.
	And it really, really resonated and it got a lot of heat and a lot of attention.
	And it was like this big rush of fame outside of celebrity fame.
	It was a different sort of had a different timbre, different quality to it.
	The newspaper that I would have imagined to be most sympathetic to an autodidactic working class person espousing off the cuff on politics would be the apparently left-wing Guardian.
	But when I did a bunch of interviews around it, the one that was most derisory, condemnatory, critical, haughty, and supercilious were The Guardian.
	They were like sneering, contemptuous.
	Even though I went with the journalist to like a soup kitchen and did like some sort of, you know, he goes, oh, you know, you care about people, do you?
	Well, why don't you come to this soup kitchen and where I do stuff?
	And I'm like, yeah, cool, man.
	Yeah, I do.
	I'm like, I believe in this stuff, you know.
	I'll own it.
	I'm self-interested.
	I'm a narcissist.
	I'm a performer, all that shit, but there's another track.
	That's not all I am.
	I really care.
	I love Jesus.
	And even before I knew Jesus, it was all there.
	The love of God, the love of service.
	I was trying my best.
	I'm trying my best.
	Anyway, like when they wrote that article, like they photographed me with like, like sort of like as if I was like this.
	And this is why we're very careful with our framing.
	Like they sort of photographed me like that.
	So like I was like, that was the front cover of the Guardian magazine.
	And when you photograph someone with space above their head, what you're saying is you're diminishing that person.
	That's what they do.
	It's called, that is called semiotics.
	That's the language of images.
	Images have certain connotations.
	Even something innocuous that you look at in your sight line is probably got a bunch of connotations to you.
	Anyway, like the whole article was very sort of snidey and like it started to really fuel this hatred in me of like the intelligentsia and the professional media class.
	So I get what he's saying, but I'm just some peripheral marginal cultural figure.
	He's the president of the United States of America.
	So on one hand, I think it's sort of ridiculous.
	But on the other hand, I think he's like really identifiable and recognizable.
	I just can't get my head around it.
	I can't get my head around what he means or what he represents.
	Even though I read a bunch of content that say he's owned in the same way that you would know that Biden or Harris is owned, he's owned or he's malleable and all that kind of stuff.
	Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
	Let me know where you are on your personal journey of awakening.
	And let me know when you think the Ukraine ceasefire will happen.
	And you can use polymarkets.
	My word, we must have done some kind of deal with these because it's something I have to talk about about every 15 seconds.
	I wouldn't be surprised if I have to incorporate polymarket into my children's bedtime stories at this rate.
	Like polymarket when I'm feeding my dog, I have to go, yeah, Bear, here's a bone.
	Here, do you want to have a bet on polymarkets with a pig bones better than beef bones?
	About every 25 seconds.
	The US agrees to, like, anyway, like polymarket, what polymarket is, is, you know, you can gamble on anything.
	Now, I'm a drug addict and an alcoholic.
	And one of the few addictions I've never had is gambling.
	And so be really careful.
	If you've got addiction issues, watch that shit.
	But if you don't, go crazy, man.
	This seems to be a good thing.
	And like, what I suppose they're good at doing is mapping and tracking data points and compiling information in a way that's somewhat reliable.
	So you could probably use this if, you know, just try not to gamble, guys, because I don't know.
	I mean, games are chance, vice.
	It's not good.
	Have you ever had the gambling addictions, Dave?
	No, but I have a propensity to it.
	So I just don't gamble, really.
	Yeah, like, I bet a joke could get right smashed up on gambling, couldn't you, mate?
	Yeah.
	I've got quite into it for a little while, betting on the horses and that when I was drinking.
	But I didn't like losing money, so I found it easy to knock you on the head.
	That's the good thing.
	If you are a drug addict, in the end, you'll sort of say, I need this money for the drugs.
	I can't afford to give this away.
	But if you look at our beloved Dave now, his cheek is full of them kind of nicotine things for people in the South.
	And I'll mind betting you dollars to donuts in his hand of three of them gambling chips.
	That's Dave's tell.
	That's how we know Dave's crazy.
	I've been gambling before and then I had the thought, well, I got to win that back.
	I got to go take out more money.
	And yeah, it could go bad.
	Someone explained to me the other day, my mate, he's a former Marine, and you better know I love the military, mate.
	Oh, God, I love a special ops person, me.
	I'm gay for special ops, which is a shame because they hate that.
	But like, and criminals.
	Like, it used to be criminals when I was younger.
	I've migrated a little bit over to the old special ops.
	Anyway, there's this Marine that I do jujitsu with.
	It's kind of jiu-jitsu.
	We're naked.
	We're covered in tallow.
	It was all tallow.
	It's the actual jiu-jitsu.
	Anyway, he says there ain't no point in hedge funds or none of that crap.
	He goes, the SMP index, am I saying that right, Dave?
	Like the main index, the American top 500 companies, just invest in that index.
	Look, here's the facts.
	The only people that have ever beaten that index over the last 30 or 50 years or something like that is Warren Buffett and an inaccessible hedge fund called something like, I don't know, Helio or something.
	I don't know.
	Like it's something that you can't get into anyway.
	So like maybe the thing is with gambling, unless you're Henry Sugar, who's a rolled doll character, or like you've got, or Biff.
	Remember Biff out of...
	No one seems to care about Biff.
	Am I the only one who cares about Biff?
	Biff?
	Hello, McFly.
	Back to the future.
	Yeah, back to the future.
	Back to the future.
	McFly.
	I love Biff.
	And even his goons.
	I love those guys.
	And Biff gets that almanac, you know?
	That's it.
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	Let us know what you think about this.
	Trump might be firing Kash Patel, a man with whom I briefly shared a booth at the Army versus Navy football game that I briefly attended in Jake's boots.
	I went there to the Army, Navy football game in Maryland.
	It was cold that day.
	It was pretty good.
	I'd love to go again.
	I want to go to... I want to go...
	Like Joe's always telling me, get into American sports.
	Get into some.
	Jake's always given me the opportunity to learn more about baseball.
	Let's get into it.
	Anyway, I was there and briefly, Kash Patel was in that room.
	Kash Patel, a few other important people from the government.
	And now it looks like, oh, Kash Patel could be on his way out.
	Do you think it's going to happen?
	Let me know what you think in the comments.
	Breaking news.
	Emma is now has just learned that FBI director Kash Patel may be out of a job in the coming months.
	Three people with knowledge of the situation, say President Trump and his top aides, have grown tired of Patel and the unflattering headlines he's been generating recently, including using a government jet to visit his girlfriend and enlisting a SWAT team as her security detail.
	Do you think that's true?
	Would you do it?
	I'd do it.
	Like, if someone gave me access to government power, I don't think, I think I'd be reckless with it.
	Do you think so?
	I mean, there's nothing, I'll tell you now, if you've not been on a private jet, my God, it's better.
	I mean, like, I've been poor and I've been rich.
	And, you know, as you know, rich is better because you can arm's length the stinking filth of poverty.
	Now, when you're on a private jet, like I was recently, you think, oh, everyone should live like this.
	It's so beige.
	It's so cream.
	It's so delicious.
	A G4 jet, like, the word is sibaritic.
	That means excessively fond of luxury.
	I like to think of myself as a person on a really profound spiritual journey.
	But like a G4 jet, oh my God, they're so nice, aren't they?
	What'd you say when we first got on it about Herod?
	The story of Herod?
	It's actually about Nero.
	Thanks for reminding me.
	It's a good story.
	Like, Nero, Emperor Nero, who, let's face it, was not a man known for his incredible grace or connection with God.
	He had this very not primitive, classical air conditioning thing put into his palace, like where there was a kind of a version of air conditioning, but a Roman version of it.
	So I guess they had air and fans working in some sort of pre-industrial way.
	And the air vents would like have gold leaf in fine fragments like petals raining down on Nero.
	It apparently took a long time to get that working because it was a complicated project.
	Once they got it working, Nero sort of took an inhalation and went, ah, finally I can start living like a human being.
	And that's how I felt when we were on that G4 jet.
	And I was like, oh.
	That's how it's supposed to be when we're flying off to El Salvador to a Bitcoin conference.
	have been in some sketchy private planes too so it's not just all yeah normally i mean us and chris pavlovsky the ceo we went to see don trump jr in one like you know in indiana jones with all them chickens in the back and like it's like weird leather straps hanging off the roof and like things that look a bit like anibal lecter's mask when they wheel anibal lecter about on that There are things like that everywhere, like over the windows, like weird bits of net, like leather technology, like wicker baskets, that sort of thing you'd find at a Wuhan wet market.
	Like also like we're pangolin in a box.
	Like then we've been in other ones, I mean like with our with Stan, like Stan, we get like with Stan's Phenom and King Airplane, like when we sometimes go to DC to do a little bit of graft, a little bit of work, graft, call it what you will.
	Like one time we took a Hungarian missionary with us, beloved Josh.
	Now, like if you're on a very small little jet that's like a rickety old thing, there's a little bit of an unspoken rule that you don't use the bathroom on there because you know it'll be like doing the bathroom in someone's pocket.
	And I Josh went back there and frankly, I'll just, let's just click, let's just call it how it was.
	He was, if the four of us, he was Ringo, right?
	He had no business using that bathroom, right?
	He went back there and done a wee in there and like we were like, whoa, man, what's Josh doing in that bathroom?
	Like, sounds like he goes, and then when he came out, like, Jake was going and I was like, whoa, what are you doing in there?
	And he goes, no, I only had a P, I only had a P.
	And then Stan, the pilot of the plane, sort of like leaned over and went, hey, there's some spray back there if you need it.
	He blew the lid on Josh, the Hungarian missionary's PFAR, as you were calling it.
	That's the old PFAR.
	The old PFAR of Josh.
	He's out there in Budapest, badgering people into becoming Christian.
	That's what he's doing.
	Badgering them into it.
	Go on, become a Christian, become a Christian.
	That's all they've got to do.
	Now, he's a good guy.
	Hey, listen, fancy a coffee.
	Why don't you get blackout coffee?
	Handcrafted, small batch, fresh roasted coffee.
	Bit of demonic imagery, on it.
	Am I on it?
	I've got to churn on my filters, aren't I?
	Like, look at this one.
	Dark roast, blackout coffee.
	This one, that's going to smash you up.
	Like, remember the scene in pulp fiction when he's selling drugs?
	When Eric Stoltz, who played Marty McFly firstly, and they shot scenes famously of Eric Stoltz as Martin McFly.
	And he didn't have the right thing.
	But you can see it though, that Michael J. Fox had some sort of quality, some sort of luminous boyishness that without which that film would not have worked.
	It would not have worked.
	It's weird, isn't it, when you think about movie stars?
	What is it they have?
	Like, say, you know, Tom Cruise, what is it Tom Cruise has?
	Tom Cruise has a radiant yet manageable sexual allure.
	That's what I'd call it in Tom Cruise's case.
	And in the case of Michael J. Fox, he had sort of like just apple line boyishness.
	Anyway, Eric Stoltz in pulp fiction, when he's the drug dealer, he's the one in the dressing gown, like knocking out smack when Travolta comes around to get gear, goes, like this one, this is going to put you on your up.
	I mean, I wasn't a heroin addict yet when I was watching that, but I was thinking, I'm going to become a heroin addict.
	This looks fucking brilliant.
	Not once.
	So anyway, this one, this is medium roast.
	If I see medium on anything, I'm like, get out of my life.
	I'm like, this is like, like when we was in Costa Rica, like they, like, someone came round and done like, uh, we own a Costa Rica, like, to, you know, for passport reasons.
	Anyway, like, went to Costa Rica and, like, we had, like, a personal coffee man.
	He was like the number one coffee guy in Christian disposal.
	Yeah, and it was like it was like, oh, try all these coffees and that.
	Me and Dave Joe was there as well, and we're all like drug addicts in recovery, so we're just like, which one's the strongest?
	Oh, and this one, it's like got a fruity taste.
	Which one's the strongest?
	Oh, and this one.
	This one here got a smell of a meadow.
	Yeah, which one's the stronger?
	The only question is like everything's about impact and effect.
	No one cares about some fruity taste.
	What's that one, man?
	That sounds dark.
	Dark!
	Black!
	Black like the wings of a crow!
	Black like the mold on the inside of a coffin!
	Black!
	This one, this one, this one will kick your ass.
	I'd say, have any of you ever done a coffee enema?
	Because now's your chance.
	The car who's done a coffee enema here.
	Apparently, it's very good for you.
	Like, coffee straight up the jack, see, straight up the kyber.
	Coffee up the ass.
	That's what they say.
	There they are.
	The naughty beans.
	Like, that smells pretty good, you know.
	Oh, that's good stuff, man.
	Rob just eats them.
	Doesn't he eat them?
	Yeah, probably.
	Shakes them up like that.
	Pops him up there.
	What does he say?
	Rectal only for rectal use only.
	Rob just lines them up on top of that like bullets in a mag because I've been now.
	Nice.
	I've got a gun now.
	That's how you load them up down with a thumb.
	And then Rob, straight up the kyber.
	That's all Rob for you.
	So, anyway, this, if you want some, go.
	There's a link in the description now.
	Get yourself a coffee that's so good you'll want to drink it using your bottom as a kind of uh, as a sort of a second mouth.
	Um okay, so we've covered quite a lot of news there this.
	When we come back, I'm gonna give you some an analysis about Wicked and and how.
	Uh, the Wicked franchise is, in a sense, the perfect moniker for a post-truth world, and what I mean by that is my kids, when they watch Wizard Of Oz, are gonna be like oh, that's that Dorothy bitch that killed Elphaba.
	Like that, like how are they gonna get their heads around it?
	And they try, and then, but think about this, replace Elphaba for Hitler.
	And now you got yourself a story baby, you know like, are we gonna live at a time where people start to go well, and indeed people do, people do like well Hitler, you know really, he'd worked out that the markets were going this way and da like.
	And then what I like?
	But you only have to read one account of people going.
	And then I was taken to Auschwitz and then my dad got killed and I'm like oh, hold on man, this is crazy.
	And even when people debate the numbers, there was a holocaust guys, there was a holocaust, but this uh, you know they hey, take it to the limit, baby.
	We'll be talking about wicked, who's wicked, who's not, and what's not.
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	Right, coming in.
	Let's do a little bit of cultural analysis.
	We should sort of think should have a jingle form.
	All right, so Wicked.
	Look, let's face it, if ever you see the black English lass and the lass off kids telly promoting this film, it's pretty hard not to feel like something's off-key about it all.
	But the film itself is pretty good.
	I like, you know, like if you have to go and watch something with your kids, you know, oh man, this is going to be shit.
	And then it's not.
	It's always a relief to watch us analyze, scrutinize Wicked, and employ it not only to look at cinematic history, post-structuralism, and post-modernity, but also how there's a continual reframing of public figures and even the idea of goodness itself.
	Click the link in the description, get off YouTube, get over here.
	We're going to be doing that right now.
	Couldn't be happier.
	It's more important than ever that you lift everyone's spirits as only you can.
	Does that do what I think it does?
	No.
	No way.
	I'm obsessed.
	The wand really sells it.
	Because happy is the hardlander.
	The good in my dreams.
	Now, Wizard of Oz is obviously a potent cultural artifact that stood the test of time and reaches people deep down.
	In a way, I think of it like the Titanic.
	Firstly, there was the Titanic itself, this hubristic vessel named ludicrously the unsinkable, which duly sunk.
	And by the way, I'm aware of all that sort of cultural and political and economic analysis that says that J.P. Morgan invested in it and then they sat with the Federal Reserve the next year and all of that kind of stuff.
	But I'm talking about from a mythic perspective, firstly, it represented human power versus the power of nature and human hubris, I suppose.
	Then the movie comes out.
	It's like the world's best movie and the biggest movie.
	And then they tried to send down that little submarine to have a little look at it and it blew up.
	It's like the Titanic contains deep mythic power.
	And somehow whoever wrote The Wizard of Oz, what's he called?
	Frank Buchanan, I can't remember his name.
	Whoever wrote that original story was working in the mathematics and language of archetypes in the same way that George Lucas was a big fan of Joseph Campbell and understood fairy tale and folktale logic in his creation of his brilliant characters.
	Because as other comedians have pointed out, there's stuff in Star Wars from a dialogue perspective that's rubbish, you know, talking about famously like Harrison Ford.
	So you can't say these lines, they're boring, you know.
	Oh no, they're like a bunch of numbers and crap like that and numerous characters saying, I've got a bad feeling about this rather than it being a catchphrase of one individual character.
	Well, wicked, I think at the moment is being used, and this is what I'd like to ask all you lot about, to kind of tell the story of corruption from a pretty obvious and rudimentary perspective,
	i.e. the character of Oz, the all-powerful Oz, is a weak and fragile man who has the levers of power, but has no real actual power himself, and his power is an illusion.
	In this part of the story, all of the animals of Oz are being cast out.
	And it's, I feel like, and I'm projecting this, I guess, that the cast and filmmakers would very much feel that they're participating in a commentary of modern contemporary American politics, i.e. ICE raids and the subject of migration more broadly and American nationalism.
	They might not have thought that.
	I just guess, you know, if you imagine the people that made the film Wicked, the production staff, the director, the people at the studio, is it universal?
	I don't know.
	Do you think all those people really love Trump and JD Vance?
	I'm guessing probably not.
	Do you imagine they're the kind of people that would go to a Kamala Harris fundraiser?
	I reckon they probably would.
	Maybe kind of like AAOC and Gavin Newsom.
	I think it's fair, let me know in the comments and chat, to assume that.
	Therefore, I suppose that when they're making the film Wicked, they're probably making it somewhat as a commentary on American, on contemporary American social and political life.
	But I'm saying that Wicked is deeper than that and better than that, as any archetype or mythic film or artifact will be.
	Because if you were to allow it simply to be a bipartisan commentary on one aspect of American political power, i.e. a critique and condemnation of MAGA republicanism,
	how do you tarry that or tally that with the idea of what took place during the COVID pandemic where all of us were invited to enter into an illusion and were completely deceived because of the power of the media and the state because of the way they lied to us and treated us.
	So in short, what I'm saying is, and in fact it's a theme that we've been talking about all the way through this show, is we're living in such a peculiar time with so much competing information that the only truth that's relevant are the profoundest truths of all.
	And as a Christian, obviously for me, that's the gospel.
	That God so loved the world, he gave his only son that whoever believes in him would not perish but know eternal life.
	That if you can't find a way to access that truth in yourself, you're going to live in forms of illusion.
	You will be double-minded, tossed on the waves of perpetually shifting cultural tides.
	Let me know what you think in the comments on and the chat.
	And let me know what you guys think about what I'm saying so far because we're going into like a bunch of other assets around other great films like Tolkien's Lord of the Rings and you know, and other films that have repositioned baddies as goodies, which is a sort of a common trend.
	I see it happen with that Cruella movie.
	It happened with The Joker, you know, so it's not even a left versus right thing.
	It's the idea of shifting perspectives.
	And that's that comes from sort of post-structuralisms and that sort of philosophical and political era where people start saying, well, maybe what if, you know, if you start pulling that thread, like maybe the people we think are good are bad and the people we think are bad are good.
	Like, you know, oh, Martin Luther King was a womanizer.
	Oh, Hitler was trying his best.
	Like, you know, if you start sort of like, we enter into a very difficult space to navigate.
	And certainly, I would say a space in which it's impossible to have a monoculture.
	And a nation is a kind of monoculture.
	That's what you're saying.
	Is we're all Americans.
	Now, beautifully, when you lot are under pressure and under attack, like any family, maybe you can come together.
	But now, this is a time of internal combustion and internal division and internal fracture.
	And a film like Wicked, I think, and the various interpretations that are available for a film like Wicked tell you a lot about where America is right now in the same way that Marjorie Taylor Greene leaving and Kash Patel maybe getting sacked and people sort of revising their opinions and perspectives on Trump does.
	And that's what I want to talk about.
	Who's got something to say to me on that subject?
	I'm trying to read your faces, but I'm like an autistic person.
	You know, like wherever autistic kids, you have to go, that's a happy person is when it's an upside-down sea.
	Oh, that's happy, is it?
	So tell me who wants to jump into the ship, Jake Smith.
	You've got the American flag behind you.
	Yeah, I mean, I think that's been going on for a while.
	Redefining what's good, making bad thing.
	Oh, well, you just missed the perspective.
	They had a hard upbringing.
	That's why they become bad.
	You do kind of miss even back in the day in wars, whereas like good guys and bad guys.
	Yeah.
	Now you don't even know who's good, who's bad.
	Yeah, it's a very complex space.
	Masses kind of thing you're obsessed with, ain't it, darling?
	Yeah, the left at the moment, they think that like there's a lot of cultural relativism going on.
	So it's like you get it a lot with Hamas, you know, so you get the queers for Palestine stuff, and it's kind of this suicidal empathy that people have.
	And they, you know, they will excuse bad things that people do because of their upbringing.
	Now, I don't necessarily disagree with that, but it's just funny that that seems to be the default position people go to nowadays.
	Like, oh, why did they do this thing?
	And maybe it isn't that bad by extension.
	So you see that in films, you see it in the news as well.
	Yeah, because it like I'm sympathetic to those ideas, which I reckon are generally associated with left-wing politics of, well, maybe these people are drug addicts because they had a tough childhood.
	Obviously, I'm sympathetic to that because I was a drug addict.
	And I don't know if it was entirely as a result of childhood.
	But what you know, like the first thing you have to do is unplug.
	You have to unplug from the world.
	If you're plugged into the world, you'll never, never understand.
	You'll just live your whole life like, you know, sort of obsessing about some weird iteration of basically a hobby, even if it's a monetized one.
	The thing is with being an alcoholic and a drug addict is you have to achieve abstinence.
	And that's a form of unplugging.
	What most of us do, drug addicts and alcoholics, is we unplug from that, from, you know, consider it, you know, Neo in the Matrix or whatever, but then we plug back into something else, you know, like porn or sex or food or whatever.
	But really what you have to do is remain unplugged until you become the recipient of grace.
	And that takes sort of an incredible amount of discipline, more than I can manage a lot of the time.
	But at least it allows you to receive the source, the Holy Spirit.
	I don't know how you would do it if you hadn't had a punch in the face type addiction like I've had.
	You know, and I know that Joe, you wanted to talk some about addiction, huh?
	Yeah.
	And I wonder if you see in like in sort of where I was going with this, some correlatives.
	Do you want to watch the Carl Jung, you can't heal addiction to face this video first?
	Or do you want to tee up, mate?
	I'll go straight in if you like.
	So it's like what you're saying there.
	When you give up one problem, you're likely to replace it with another, right?
	And what Jung's saying is that it, like I describe it, Dave likes this one.
	I call it a soul sickness.
	I've always said that.
	It's like a soul sickness.
	But what Jung described it as, he said, it's like, it's a thirst of the spirit for wholeness.
	So you're conscious.
	Well, this is how I describe this as well.
	Remember, I told you, Russell, that it's like your eternal consciousness, that in you which is infinite, is craving union with its creator, or as Jung said, union with God.
	So I think what we do as alcoholics or drug addicts is you find a counterfeit spirit, the counterfeit to numb you, to escape.
	And like Jung also said that until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life forever.
	But if you look at the symptoms, it will direct you to the source.
	And in this case, like addiction, it's loss of self-control, being possessed by an unconscious force or escape from self by a counterfeit spirit.
	And that's where the quote comes from: spiritus contra spiritum, meaning like spirit, spirit against spirit.
	So like the alcoholic reaches for the spirit, the counterfeit, when the solution is God, the true spirit.
	I suppose that the, you know, like them gutters that come up when you're learning temping bowling that make sure the ball has no choice but to hit the skills at the end.
	Like the culture doesn't really direct you down the right lanes or pathways.
	I think that the culture, in fact, do you think it's fair to say that the point of the world is to distract you?
	Like the actual point of it is to make sure that your energy gets into staring at sort of sexual imagery or forms of materialism.
	I saw like a clip of me talking to Professor Richard Dawkins from an interview I did a couple of years ago.
	And he said, the reason I'm the materialist is because it's measurable.
	And when I heard the term materialist, I felt kind of like, ooh, that is not the answer.
	I know for sure it's not.
	And I know that Richard Dawkins doesn't mean materialist from a consumerist perspective.
	I know he means if you can't measure it, like whether that's atomic or subatomic or whatever, that he ain't going to rely on it.
	But it still seems to me sort of diabolical because I know what human, well, this human being, and I reckon that I'm pretty normal when it comes to it, what we need is precisely what we need is that spiritual connection.
	And I think that the function of the world is to misdirect and substitute and think of the role of Christ as substitute, to substitute your yearning for God, wholeness, and holiness into some form of false idolatry.
	I think we see it again and again.
	I think you see it specifically in the fifth step.
	I mean, when you're doing inventory, fourth and fifth, and you're looking at those causes and conditions, you're looking at the stuff underneath it.
	I quoted you, Joe, earlier today.
	I was 12-step in a guy.
	I quoted soul sickness to a guy.
	Soul sickness.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean by the fifth step and those causes and conditions?
	Well, when you're getting down to it, I mean, in the third step, you're saying, hey, I'm, there is a God.
	It's not me.
	And I'm going to take my proper position underneath him.
	He's going to be the God.
	He's going to be the director.
	He's the principal.
	I'm the agent.
	He's, you know, it's this positional deal.
	But you don't know how you play God.
	And so in the fourth and fifth, it's showing this pattern.
	This is how I play God.
	I play God by, I use self-pity to get my needs met, or I get angry.
	And, or I have, usually it's a combination of several things, but usually there's patterns that come out of that.
	This is how I play God.
	And so you can't stop doing something until you see exactly what you're doing.
	And so you learn that in that fist up.
	Do you think that's a more parochial and easy to understand way of saying what Joe said?
	Until the unconscious becomes conscious, you will be subject to its inert powers.
	Yeah, for sure.
	For sure.
	I mean, that's what if you leave a fist step and you didn't learn anything about yourself, you didn't see like, I mean, one, I don't even see how that's possible.
	You didn't really do a fist up if you leave it and not.
	Just to update you on the vocabulary step, we're talking about 12-step programs.
	Step one is the acknowledgement of a problem, that you're powerless over your addiction and that your life has become manageable.
	Step two, coming to believe that power greater than yourself can restore you to sanity.
	Step three, making the decision to turn your will and your life over to the care of God as you understand God.
	Step four, making a fearless and thorough moral inventory of your wrongs.
	Step five, confessing those wrongs to another person.
	And Dave's saying that this process of four and five is what takes the unconscious material into the conscious, into awareness, you know, consciousness.
	I suppose you could, in this sense, just means aware.
	And what I, to my point that I used to pivot from talking about movies and culture into this rather more personal and psychic interpretation of comparable phenomena was that if you're an alcoholic or an addict, as it says in our literature, you have a crisis that cannot be postponed or delayed.
	Like a crisis comes on you.
	And at that point of crisis, your options become limited.
	I mean, that's in fact an obvious defining aspect of crisis.
	You're not free anymore.
	You're now, your options have gotten limited.
	And in that kind of crisis, it's usually either suicide remains an option or some kind of radical change.
	One of my teachers said that sort of suicide is a radical is a sort of sort of a warped expression of the actual transformation that needs to take place.
	And to put that, I suppose, into Christian terms, like the Adam has to die.
	The earth man, the flesh man, he has to go and be replaced by the spiritual man.
	And I suppose like learning about these things as I have from a new, I suppose the thing I'm trying to get across in this book is that there's, you know, it's weird, isn't it?
	Because if you become like I've done a Christian later in life, you sort of you're accepting that you didn't, you know, you're letting go of the past, you're being reborn.
	I'm like, well, I've been doing stuff.
	You know, it's not like I've just been sort of sat in a room doing nothing.
	I've been going around the world getting into adventures and capers and chaos and reading books and learning and all of that.
	And what's amazing is that all of the things that I've got some sort of sack of stuff, I'm like, well, I feel like that's true.
	And I feel like that was true.
	Like all them things are in the Bible.
	They're in there.
	That's what's, I suppose, been the single most extraordinary thing is the discovery that the Bible isn't simply a bunch of ethical and moral guidelines utilized to create systems of control, but it's a very powerful, supernatural structure.
	And that's sort of a weird thing for me.
	Like to go like, and what I'm sort of excited about, and what I believe might be the resolution to the very things we're discussing here, a culture that doesn't know itself and it's falling apart and collapsing and imploding.
	And we're watching it happen, like just sort of watching, like watching the Twin Towers, which we've all done, collapsing into its own footprint, thinking, how is this happening?
	How is this happening?
	Where's the energy coming from?
	What does this lead?
	Where does this lead?
	What does this tell us?
	Is that these, I believe that the truth of Christ is, of course, as it itself says, is what's going to save us.
	And communicating that in ways that seem appropriate seems to be our function.
	That's our function.
	That's what we're here to do right now.
	Is it from the book of Esther?
	It's for times such as these that we are born.
	We're supposed to be doing this.
	We're supposed to be.
	And that doesn't mean it has to be on a very grand and global scale.
	Although, come on, it's going to be.
	It could be on a kind of very sort of granular, just talking to one guy in a shelter somewhere.
	In a way, it doesn't matter because the metrics of the system are becoming increasingly redundant.
	Because as Emmett Fox says, if you change, or you know, the end of Schindler's list, like, you know, if you are changing one soul, you are dealing in the material of eternity.
	But empires are coming and going.
	An empire is not eternal.
	No material thing is eternal.
	It is collapsing through entropy.
	It is dissipating as soon as it's created.
	But when you're dealing with whatever is the force that generates it, in which we're all participants, like you were saying, Joe, that we have that portion of eternity in us.
	When you're dealing with that, it no longer matters.
	And I'm sort of feeling the kind of shifting of the inner coastal shelves within me of recognizing, oh, yeah, it's not like I'm sort of, I have to be sort of hyper-focused on kings or hyper-focused on mass markets.
	It's more become hyper-focused on the essentialism of the truths that you're discussing.
	I'll play that video if anyone, unless anyone's got something they want to say.
	Addiction is not your enemy.
	It is your messenger.
	It is not here to ruin your life, though it may do so if ignored.
	It has come to deliver something from the depths of your unconscious that your conscious mind has not yet dared to face.
	You see, the psyche is not a machine that malfunctions.
	It is a living system.
	And when it suffers, it does not do so at random.
	The addict, whether addicted to alcohol, heroin, sex, perfection, or even power, is not simply indulging in a destructive habit.
	He is attempting, often blindly, to solve a problem of the soul.
	Let us speak clearly.
	Addiction is not weakness.
	It is a misdirected search for wholeness, for something sacred, something eternal, something lost.
	I have observed this in countless patients.
	They come to me in torment, consumed by compulsions they neither understand nor can control.
	And society tells them to just stop.
	What absurdity.
	They might as well be told to just fly.
	The compulsion is not a choice.
	It is a symptom of a deeper imbalance, a split within the self.
	What lies beneath addiction is the shadow, that part of you which has been exiled.
	That part which is unacceptable to the ego, which you have learned to suppress in order to survive.
	But the shadow does not die.
	It waits.
	And it speaks in dreams and behaviors and suffering.
	When you drink or inject or obsess, you are not simply running from pain.
	You are being pulled, pulled by something ancient, something unresolved.
	Some part of you has been starved and it is now devouring whatever it can find.
	But the truth is this.
	You are not addicted to the substance.
	You are addicted to the feeling it gives you.
	Or rather, to the part of yourself it helps you silence.
	The alcoholic does not crave the drink.
	He craves the forgetting the silence of guilt, the stilling of the inner critic, the release from the unbearable weight of being oneself.
	God, young man, what a crazy genius that dude was.
	So beautiful.
	What was it about that, Joe, that got you, mate?
	I mean, I've been thinking a lot about this recently.
	I think everyone has this condition to some degree, right?
	Like, whether it's, you know, when you're watching a film, you eat a big bar of tonies and you've fucking eaten the whole thing in two minutes.
	But some people were all right with that.
	Like, the material world works.
	Sometimes a bar of chocolate works or a tub of Ben and Jerry's.
	You know, like if you split up with a bird or something and it's the, you know, stereotypical eating ice cream on the couch, it takes you away from yourself momentarily.
	But like he says there in that little speech, with the addicts, it becomes a compulsion.
	So even though it's killing you, you're going to die if you keep doing it.
	The compulsion is like a thought preceded by the action.
	There's no rational thought in between.
	Whereas normal people think, oh, fuck me.
	It's getting a bit on top.
	I need to slow down here, you know.
	And I think, what is that actually doing?
	Or nearly doing?
	It's nearly working.
	That's the annoying thing.
	It nearly works.
	It shuts you down.
	So like, in the same way, the solution, the spiritual life is all about detachment.
	It's like the substance itself almost works for a bit.
	But, you know, the spiritual life is what you need, complete detachment from self.
	And like you're saying there, Russell, through Christianity, it's not just reading kings.
	You've got to be actively out there thinking about other people, helping other people, helping you best serve other people.
	As soon as you start thinking about yourself, you fucks back in it and it's going to lead to, I don't know, anything really, isn't it?
	You go mad again, potentially.
	I wonder if that seeming deficit that defines the condition of the addicts is actually an inverted endowment.
	The cast of Melchi Zedek.
	You know, that it's a priestly endowment that won't rest until you fulfill it in God.
	And it's going to kill a lot of us.
	It's going to kill a lot of us.
	But if you are able to accommodate it or if you're able to be shown the way.
	Because I'm thinking about like, because for an addict, right, this highfalutin talk don't really help.
	It means that, like for any addict anywhere, unless there's a point where you're willing to go through it, willing to go through.
	Well, what happens when you don't do it?
	Try stopping.
	What happens?
	If you like, you know, I need to drink, I need to drink.
	Don't.
	See what happens.
	Oh my God.
	I've got the pain, the terrible pain, the terrible pain.
	And it works just as well for anything.
	The only way, if you will note that it brings to the forefront some pretty important spiritual ideas, that these things can only take place in the present and you have to engage in a discourse with an aspect of yourself that might be considered supernatural or external to the self, whether you look at it in Jungian or Christian terms.
	How can they close or Einsteinian physics?
	How can a closed system change from within itself?
	How can a closed system change from within itself?
	That's what the miracle of step two came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
	At some point, you have to, in the moment, go, God, I'm going to sit with it.
	I'm going to sit in the pain.
	And I've been doing that a lot lately, a lot.
	I've been sitting daily, either praying rosary or sitting with ideas around forgiveness and grievance and letting go of grievance and recognizing the challenge in this that actually all encounters.
	Check this.
	You might have seen that film Look Up.
	There's a really good bit in this movie, Look Up, Leonardo DiCaprio and a bunch of other guys sort of save the world from a meteorite.
	No one wants to acknowledge the meteorite initially because of the sort of challenges that come with the earth being struck by a meteorite.
	And Leonardo DiCaprio is the sort of sort of the guy that sees it soonest and is like, oh my God, you guys have better make some changes.
	There's a bit where he encounters a kind of tech oligarch, the kind of tech oligarch archetype that we're beginning to recognize in our culture now, like whether you see it as Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg or the Lex Luther character in the latest iteration of the Superman movie.
	The tech oligarch is a sort of a new Faustus, a new character that's made a deal with a devil that now has incredible power.
	Anyway, the version of that character that's in this movie, Look Up, there's a point where he says to someone, like, listen, we've got four million data points on you.
	We know everything you've looked at.
	We know everything you do.
	And I was talking about that with someone recently that like, you know, like every time I use a map, every time I go on social media, every time I do anything on this phone, it's all accumulated and it creates a kind of silhouette of who I am that probably could be more reliably used to describe me than reading my fourth and fifth steps.
	You know, like, unless you're a person who knows yourself very, very well, like, well, he keeps going to that place.
	He keeps looking at that.
	He keeps buying that.
	So he might tell you this or that about himself, but I can tell you what he's doing is he's buying these things pretty fucking regular and he's going there all the time, right?
	Well, that's, you know, the miracle of accumulative data models that define this current iteration of tech, which is passing as AI arrives.
	But we all have that.
	Like, how many data points do I have on any one of you?
	Like, how many data points?
	I've got my encounters, my conversations, my memories.
	So if one of you occurs in one of my dreams, what is it I'm dealing with really?
	I'm dealing with my composite set of data points that doesn't incorporate your relationships, your private relationships with one another, or your parents, or your dreams, or your inner life.
	So you're just a sort of a compound.
	You're a compound.
	Unless God is real and we have this sort of ulterior spiritual connection that's sort of transcendent of that.
	But a materialist, Richard Dawkins, would say no.
	And a data analyst would say no.
	So like all you're dealing with is like objects, accumulative compounds that you've created of people in their mind.
	So if you, so that's if you dream about someone you know, if you have recurrent dreams about like, wow, the black woman or recurrent dreams about the dragon or whatever it is in a dream, what is it saying to you in your own language in the ecosystem of your psyche?
	What is it trying to tell you?
	What is this protein living substance or phenomena within you trying to inform you of?
	And how are you going to interpret it?
	The fact is, is that if you live in a busy, busy, crazy culture like we do, that's like one minute making you care about football, the next minute making you care about food, the next minute making you care about sex, the next minute making you feel inferior, next minute telling you Armageddon's on the way, you ain't got no connection with God.
	You're not going to be able to find a connection with God.
	But if you go into this, it's such sort of deep, powerful, archetypal, mythic information that sort of the point where myth and truth meet.
	For myth to be relevant at all, it has to have some relationship with truth.
	And one aspect of the figure of Christ that we discuss a lot is that he is God.
	And what does God do?
	In addition to the healing and the miracles, he tells stories.
	What are stories?
	Stories indicate meaning.
	In the same way that mathematics indicates that there's a deeper meaning, and the same way that beauty and symmetry indicate meaning, and the same way that the relationships between musical notes indicate meaning, meaning itself indicates meaning.
	And what does he do?
	He tells stories.
	The person that told the story of reality into being tells stories, often accommodating the fact you won't really get it.
	It's a bit like if there was two farmers.
	Like, you know, he knows that we are not going to be able to get it on the level of sort of rushing prismic atoms and storms and vortexes and black holes.
	You're not going to get that shit.
	So like, you know, unless you're willing to sit on your own with it on the edge, like that first image in that Jungian thing, which was an imploding succubus of quicksand, which is what it's like in there.
	I know you know.
	I know you know.
	And if you are willing to sit on the edge long enough and you can handle it and don't go, fuck me, I'm going to have to open up my arm, then you might come back with something worth having.
	But, you know, it's a tough old ride.
	It's a tough old ride.
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	Happy Thanksgiving, man.
	I can't believe I'm so English.
	I didn't even mention it.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	Hey, thank you.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	Thank you.
	Ho Hitler.
	I'm not pro that dude at all.
	I don't know.
	No, I mean, I'm not pro any genocide by anybody at any time, anywhere.
	But man, the outfits.
	The outfits.
	All right.
	So we're going to carry on.
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	Otherwise, we'll see you.
	Is our next show going to be the one where I did that stand-up comedy?
	Oh, yeah.
	It's pretty funny.
	I realized when I did this event for Maha, I realized, oh, yeah, you're a comedian.
	Prepare jokes.
	It will help you.
	And I did that.
	And what do you know?
	It works.
	And it sort of was when reflecting on that, as well as the word Phoenix that made me go, I am going to do turning point.
	Because remember, I left you that message and I was like, I'm behind this van that says Phoenix.
	And then this pastor left me a message and just inexplicably used the metaphor of Phoenix.
	I know it's a common metaphor in its way.
	But the turning point event is in Phoenix.
	And I'm thinking, well, if Shapiro's there and Tucker's there and Erica Kirk's there and I get to be in the midst of this thing, I'll get to communicate what I believe to be true at this thing.
	And that is what I will do.
	So you can look forward to reading about my assassination around December 19th.
	No, like I'll be at that.
	All right.
	See, please, God.
	Well, you know, you die sometime.
	Abraham is right because, you know, Isaac's dead now.
	So Abraham was right.
	All right.
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