Stay Free - Russel Brand - America Is Entering a Dark New Phase — Jack Posobiec Warns What Happens Next - SF652

Nov. 19, 2025 - Stay Free - Russel Brand

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America Is Entering a Dark New Phase — Jack Posobiec Warns What Happens Next - SF652

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	Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Brand trying to bring real journalism to the American people.
	Hello there, you awakening wonders.
	Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
	I speak to Jack Pesobic today, the online pundit and content creator whose background as a naval intelligence officer gives him a degree of veracity.
	Everyone's got an angle.
	Mine's Hollywood, innit?
	Candice Owens, black.
	Ben Shapiro, Jewish lawyer.
	Tucker, I was on the mainstream.
	Theo Vaughan, I'm a hillbilly.
	Joe Rogan, OG, difficult to argue with him.
	UFC, a lot of affiliations, early adopter, difficult to criticize.
	Charlie Kirk, God rest his soul, canonized by death.
	But he was amazing in life as well.
	Who else is there?
	Jimmy Dore, I'm a curmudgen.
	Everyone's got an angle.
	Everyone's got an angle.
	But this is a time of endless refracturing and shattering and mad and giddying fragmentation.
	So we're going to have to find a crucifix amongst the angles.
	And me and Jack Pasovic did find exactly that.
	We talk a lot about how this sort of space is fragmenting.
	And like it's, I think it's like a heated up plasma, a wild and transcendent slur.
	We've got an odd, peculiar sort of plasmic sludge that we're all operating in some hazy, fluxy time of madness.
	It's pretty good chat.
	I think you'll like it.
	My favorite bit is we do the rosary in it because Jack gave me this.
	I think he gave me that one at Turning Point USA, the one where I last seen Charlie, where you know, the student action one in Tampa.
	Anyway, so we talk about that.
	Talk about Candice.
	Talk about how like the space is going sort of all nuts.
	You know how I don't know.
	You'll like it, I think.
	And then there's the prayer.
	It's pretty good.
	Anyway, watch it.
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	Here I am with Jack Prasovic.
	Ah!
	There we go.
	Darn.
	Don't try to rosary check me.
	Don't try to rosary check me.
	A rosary checked you so hard there.
	You didn't know what hit you for a minute, did you?
	I had it right here.
	I had it right here.
	What are you talking about?
	I was already ready.
	But that wasn't just for you because it's here every day.
	Jack, mate.
	Well, do you know when the last time we saw each other was?
	Oh, yeah.
	The last time we saw each other, I think we saw each other in, was it in Washington at the Maha action?
	We had a Maha action at the club.
	I thought it was Tampa.
	I thought it was a turning point student action while Charlie's action.
	It was turning point after that.
	You might be right.
	You may have seen you.
	That's right.
	I think that was after the Mahas when we had that event.
	Don't you think everything's escalating in a way that's even someone that works in social media has some access to people with a lot of power.
	Don't you think that things are escalating in a faster and in more absurd and surprising ways than you imagined possible?
	Well, look, since if you go back and all, everything changed on the day Charlie Kirk was murdered.
	And Charlie was murdered.
	It was an act of such profound evil and such profound demonic energy that at first it was met with this incredible response of prayer, of togetherness, of fellowship, of people bringing themselves together, coming together, self-sufficient, self-organizing, self-actuated, self-activated.
	And it was incredible.
	And we had the memorial and Erica did such a fantastic job.
	But then that moment passed.
	And then I think we're starting to, what we're starting to find now is that without Charlie and with people realizing this, okay, Donald Trump, you know, he's going to be, you know, leaving office in a couple of years.
	So he's sort of, you know, on a, on a different trajectory now.
	And I'm not saying he is.
	I just, the perception for a lot of people that there's now a sense that people think there is a vacuum.
	People think that there is a hole, a gap, and, you know, something, a black hole that needs to be filled.
	And rather than, you know, what Charlie would have wanted or a lot of people wanted, there's two ways, right?
	You could build yourself up, build coalitions, build friendships, build community, and then gather people together.
	Or you could see that opportunity and say, you know what I'm going to do?
	I'm going to stab this guy in the back next to me so he doesn't walk up and take that spot.
	And I'm going to stab him and everyone stabbing each other in the back.
	And look, in Washington, D.C., unfortunately, that seems to be par for the course because that's human nature, isn't it?
	That's the human nature.
	That's sinfulness.
	That is the zero sum thought of what we're trying to, you know, this bestial nature that we're trying and called by God and Christ to overcome.
	But unfortunately, human nature is still undefeated this side of heaven.
	This worldliness that you're describing, people jockeying, lobbying, and even metaphorically killing in order to get position is definitely an important part of it.
	But do you, what I keep thinking, Jack, is the what I didn't realize Charlie Kirk was actually, and I actually want to contest to a degree from a political and strategic perspective, the significance and importance of Charlie Kirk.
	Up until Charlie Kirk's death, I would have said Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro have more influence than Charlie Kirk.
	Maybe I'm wrong about that because I suppose I wouldn't have been then accounting for the activist impact of Turning Point and its very deliberate role in recruiting young voters for the Republican and Party generally, I suppose, and the MAGA movement specifically.
	But I also knew about what he was doing around voter machine integrity and all that.
	I spoke to him about that in Milwaukee.
	Anyway, I still feel like posthumously Charlie Kirk is a different object, obviously, than he was in life and that he is being used differently, both for good and for ill.
	What I'm wondering is, do you see and wonder if there is an almost occultist component to his murder?
	And do you wonder if the void you're talking about goes beyond human systems of power and is something more profound, but maybe, but spiritual, certainly.
	For example, me as a person that's not from your country who supported in the vaguest sense, because I don't vote or anything, Trump, because I like the way he was like tackling media and I think he's funny and all that stuff.
	You know, I'm not really a when I say I'm not Republican, I feel like primarily now I'm a Christian.
	And before that, before I was a Christian, I still what I felt before I came to our Lord.
	I felt like no institutions, no human institutions or political parties or bodies can ever serve the way that I see the world because they are all by their nature corrupted.
	Now, as a Christian, one of the things that's been sort of exciting and mind-blowing about coming to Christ is that all of the things I felt anyway are in here.
	Like when Ephesians talks about dark power and spiritual heavenly realms, or when Luke in the temptations of Christ has Satan saying, I'm in control of this world, authority has been given to me to run the world.
	And when our Lord says, when Judas is about to, you know, come get him, like, I have to go now to the Prince of this world.
	When it's saying evil power runs the world, how is that so different from you know Alex Jones circa 1999 or David Icke always?
	They're talking about demonic forces and when Tucker Carlson's saying, you know, I got sort of attacked by a demon, all of us are talking really, isn't the main conversation in America right now that America's government is not controlled by the people you think it is?
	Some people would just drill down and say it's Israel and Israeli interests.
	Other people would say, you know, I would of the Occupy sort of generation.
	I'm like a little older than that, really, but Occupy really summarized where I was, Jack.
	Oh, it's been captured by financial interests and lobbying interests and donor interests.
	And as I've gotten weird, really, that I didn't always see the esoteric component because I've always read people that are interested in occultism and esotericism.
	Anyway, it's only coming in a crisis, I would say, Jack, that this stuff has kind of compounded.
	So back to my original question: who are the most significant players in this space?
	Are we talking about spiritual warfare?
	Because not only is there the death of Charlie Kirk, there's the ongoing Epstein saga with now people publicly saying stuff about Donald Trump that I'm sort of staggered by to even sort of see or read if you occupy the same cause that I do.
	So doesn't it seem to you that the shift that's taking place is sort of bigger than the power dynamics of American politics or even global politics and is starting to bear some kind of hue of something else?
	Yeah, well, I wouldn't say that it's that it's you know that American power dynamics are bigger than the shift.
	No, the shift is definitely bigger.
	And because what we're really, but they are emblematic of it.
	These are things we can point to, the Epstein files, whether they've released or not, the death of Charlie Kirk, the assassination attempt of Trump.
	These are things we can point to because we see the dynamics of the deeper power, the greater power at play.
	So these are, these are just the, you know, it's like an iceberg.
	You see the tip of the iceberg, but you understand that there is a deeper sense.
	So these are the things we can point to.
	Now, what's driving it is obviously a much bigger question.
	You mentioned occultism.
	You mentioned demonic forces.
	I couldn't agree more.
	I absolutely couldn't agree more.
	And when we see some of the evidence that's now coming out about the relationship, this toxic relationship that the killer that Tyler Robinson, this guy up on the roof, and he was involved with these strange groups, transgenderism, furryism, doing drugs on what they called black market hormone replacement therapy, messing around with these discords,
	messing around with very extreme pornography and wondering where all of those pipelines are coming in to the human mind, as well as Tyler Rod, or excuse me, as well as Thomas Matthew Crooks, who apparently was getting involved in a lot of the same things.
	I think about what was done to this country during COVID because when you look at these individuals, so they're roughly around the same age band, as well as Luigi Maggioni was around the same age band, 20 to 22.
	And that means their formative years were spent under lockdown.
	Those years that you would have been in high school, when in an older teenager, you're 16, 17, 18, 19.
	That's when you're running around.
	That's when, you know, for me, I was, you know, you could run around, you have eight friends, you chasing girls, you're living life to the fullest.
	But for them, they were stuck inside and they were forced inside by a government.
	And I don't want to make this all about COVID, but I want to talk about the forces behind it because they trapped you and they put you in front of a piece of glass and then they projected whatever they wanted on that piece of glass directly into your mind and told you that if you didn't take the vaccine, if you didn't go along with social distancing, that you were going to die, that you were going to kill your family, that you were going to kill grandma.
	And we look at this operation that was done on such a massive scale to so many people, and you really have to ask the question: was all of this really being done in the common good or perhaps in the common ill, in the common bad, in malpractice, malfeasance?
	And so, when we ask what's really going on, I think I'm a believer in the fourth turning theory.
	Are you familiar with the fourth turning theory?
	I think we're in it.
	I think we're in it.
	I think there's a historical sort of force that's that's just sort of you know, this cycle that goes through human history.
	I think that we've tried to say that it wasn't going to happen and 80 years since World War II, and you know, that we're not going to do it, we're going to break out of it.
	And I think that those historical forces are here and we're going through the period of turmoil right now.
	And what's interesting, though, is that they say this is what I do find hope: that when you go through the period of turmoil, it's those who can remember I'm before that become the leaders and the guides of the people out of it.
	So, you can guide people out if you remember what life was like before the instability.
	And so, that means that the next turning will happen, the first turning, and then a second.
	And so, we have to get through this fourth turning as safely as we can, as securely as we can, prevent World War III from happening, which many forces want to happen, prevent a kinetic civil war from happening.
	And I went on CNN and they said, Are we facing a civil war?
	And I said, My friend's in a box right now.
	What else do you call that other than asymmetric civil warfare?
	We're seeing, we're seeing these forces.
	There are people trying to start a civil war, there are people trying to start World War III.
	So, you need to fight against that if you want good to win, because if you don't, we will see inexplicable evil far beyond what was unleashed in World War II.
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	I feel that where our perspectives may differ is that I don't believe that we can collapse our Christian faith into the simple support of a currently extant political movement or party.
	Because I know that let me focus on some of the things.
	I actually would agree with you, Kara.
	Yeah, I would.
	So, like, that means by definition, we're talking about institutional change, and that's a sort of a kind of radicalism.
	And I don't know where that's coming from.
	It's probably, you're probably right to say that it's sort of a kind of a post-Trump, late Trump thing, but you know enough to know that there are sort of movements within republicanism that are jockeying for power and supremacy in much the way you describe people in independent media space lobbying for position in the post-Charlie Kirk abyss, which again, I wouldn't have considered to have been as vast as it subsequently appeared to be, posthumously, which would be interesting to hear what you think about that as well.
	A few things though.
	So, say something that I really, really admire, like RFK, I really admire him.
	You know, obviously, there are a lot of restrictions, bureaucratic and institutional restrictions that prevent him from directing his authority in the way that you might imagine he would if he was given free reign to govern, rule, lead, even within the confines of the HHS in the manner that you think his ideals and his beliefs would have him.
	And, like, now, one argument is that that is just institutions and the way things are, and bloody red tape.
	But when we talk about, like, as you did, the COVID period, why did that happen?
	Why did that get engineered?
	Who did benefit from that scenario, Jack?
	And how is it possible for us to extract that admittedly unique time period from the subsequent following era?
	I.e., whoever, whatever interests benefits from COVID, those interests were enhanced and empowered further by the COVID era.
	So, though, presumably, then those powers are now more entrenched and more able to demonstrate their will than they were pre-COVID.
	So, the fact that Trump won an election and he's a maverick and an outsider to a degree is only, I think, of limited relevance.
	And I think we're beginning what I can test, Jack, is that we're beginning to see that.
	That we're beginning to see that, in spite of people's thanks, man, optimism around Trump, that's really cool.
	The reality of contemporary politics, not just in the way that we've always assumed, like, oh, bloody, it's all, you know, it's always the same.
	People make all sorts of pledges when they're campaigning that they're unable to fulfill when they're governing.
	I think it's darker than that.
	I don't know how to shake it down and break it down ethnically, and I wouldn't want to, or even ideologically.
	But the way I am comfortable breaking it down is in the Bible, it says that human institutions and governments have been captured by inverted commas, but in the Bible, not inverted commas, the devil.
	So, when COVID happens, that seems like an attempt to assert a kind of new global power.
	And in the post-COVID period, we're seeing that power at work.
	And I don't think it can be reduced just to cultural forces like, you know, Mam Dani getting in in New York or that lad being into taking pills to reduce the size of his penis.
	Like, you know, I think it's interesting that people are, You know, say Candace Owens, who you've got to know and I know, and like the kind of the direction that she's going in since coming to faith and in the post-Charlie Kirk period, she's avant-garde, let's call it, in her manner of reporting.
	And certainly we would have to agree that she's very brave.
	Now, I wonder how this sort of space can survive such variety of opinion where people that would have been friends, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson, you know, all of these people are now like sort of scattering across the space.
	And I think it must be very confusing for anyone who doesn't who isn't able to say, well, what I believe in is Jesus.
	Victory is assured.
	My job is to die unto myself that he can be reborn in me.
	What does that look like?
	And I'm going to try and work through it.
	Now, so how do you think, like, this is paradigm breaking is what I'm saying.
	And if something's paradigm breaking, it can't be resolved with the sort of simple fealty to existing leaders or institutions.
	No, I think that's right.
	And, you know, I've got my rosary here as well.
	And, you know, it's, it's, we're rosary checking, folks, we're rosary checking.
	And it, it does explain.
	When you live through positive times, you live through times of stability, when life is easy, when the economy is doing well, when things seem relatively stable, that's when we think, who needs religion?
	Forget about religion, forget about the Bible, forget about all that.
	That's what grandmom used to listen to.
	That's the pastors and priests.
	And she just goes there.
	It's for old people with white hair.
	You know, we don't need any of that because we've got, look at everything we have.
	We've got our iPhones.
	We've got our tablets.
	We've got our streaming services.
	We've got everything that we need.
	And this came from technology.
	This came from science.
	This didn't come from God.
	And so the problem is, is that eventually when you make science your new God and you put science first, when you put material things, and science is great, by the way, I'm not against science.
	But when you put those material things in a place of deification, when you put them in a place of worship, it then gets you to a point where you've totally forgotten what the point of religion is in the first place.
	It's not technology because the technology is always going to be changing.
	We've always changed from the days of rocks to the days of ships to the days of the airplane and the space shuttle.
	What we need is a moral core.
	And the moral core can only come from the deep, undying, unbroken connection with Christ Jesus.
	And if you don't have that, and that's what the Bible has presented to us, that's why when you look at the scribes, when the Dead Sea Scrolls were uncovered, right?
	They were able for the first time to find original copies, in many cases, original copies of the Bible from 2,000 years ago.
	And then so we could tell and test, did those translators of the Bible make edits?
	Did they change things?
	Did they, you know, along as it was passed down, is this the actual word of God?
	And what's amazing is it was almost one-to-one when they did the research and then they checked to see, okay, well, this is either it's a Hebrew and some Greek.
	So how do we match up?
	It was a one-to-one match.
	Those people who transcribed the word of God, they were not doing that because they wanted power in this world.
	They were doing that because they were sending us a message, because they truly believed it was the word of God.
	And this is before we had the printing press and Gutenberg comes along and all the rest of it.
	All you had was a hand and a quill and a feather and a vial of ink.
	And there you go, the well of ink.
	And so they preserved it because that's the preservation of our civilization.
	That's the preservation of our world.
	That's the preservation of our humanity.
	And if we drift away from it, that's when humanity falls apart.
	And that's when we can become unhuman.
	And that's when we un-human ourselves and we embark in unhumanity.
	This is the difference between man and beast.
	So when I was talking about the furry, the transhumanism, transgenderism, what does it all mean?
	It all means a break with our humanity to become unhumanized, whereas I would contend and I would argue to everyone that to become closer to Christ is to actually become more in touch with your human self.
	And the closer that you are, the more human you will actually become, which is a strange thing because I'm not talking about in the physical sense.
	I'm talking in a metaphysical sense.
	You will understand yourself more the more you understand Christ and the more you understand what his role for man, woman, child, leader, whoever is in this world.
	And so to break that all down and to break that all apart, you realize that the forces of evil, the forces of the devil, Satan, demons, et cetera, they can never create.
	They cannot create.
	They have no ability.
	They have no create.
	They have authority.
	They do.
	But they do not have the ability to create.
	What does this mean?
	They have screw tape letters.
	T.S. Lewis, Wormwood, oh, dear Wormwood, young Wormwood.
	They can corrupt.
	They can destroy.
	They can deceive.
	They can trick.
	They can kill.
	They can do all of these things.
	That is the demonic, the ability to corrupt that which was intended to be good.
	But they never have the ability to create anything.
	And so when I look at people who are trying to destroy things, when I look at people and I say, are you trying to destroy or are you trying to build?
	Are you trying to unite in the right way and fit the puzzle pieces together?
	And you were talking about the scattering of the media landscape and scattering of the political landscape.
	Are you trying to fit the pieces together so that they will work better?
	Or are you someone who's trying to make the pieces fall apart because you want to shatter these things?
	And I think that when you use that as your rubric and use that as your understanding of where everything is going, I found it to be very useful when I'm doing my dealings, whether it be in DC or wherever I am.
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	We meet him, pray the rosary.
	I feel like that's pretty good.
	Let me know what you think in the comments in the chat.
	I like the belt of truth.
	The truth is the first part of the armament that has to go on in Ephesians around that time.
	And I also, like our Lord said, I'm coming here to kick off.
	I like to put it into an English evening.
	I'm not coming here to have a message of just peace.
	Coming here to start some fires.
	It's going to get a bit crazy, and I do.
	I feel that, man.
	I feel that um hey, a lot of people would say though, that you know, with um, with your example of how decadence and modern paganism whether that's sort of endocrenal control over your body or like weird pagan sex stuff is an evident deviation from the kind of um bearing of god's image that you describe so beautifully, and the paradox of, by becoming more like God, you become more like yourself,
	because he's Telos and his intention is evident in you, his creation.
	Some people might say that there's a sort of a comparable, even if it's less colorful deviation from Christ when we get into debt and credit and usury and materialism and worldliness and Phariseeism and all of the less colorful sexual, basically less sexual versions of sin and deviation that exist.
	So, and they would say that you, probably they would say to pre you and me, although you more because you've been in the military and you've got short hair and everything uh, you guys don't know about that, because you fit into that aspect of Christianity that people default to, because you benefit from patriarchy, they'd probably say, and being normal, they'd probably say and like, but nevertheless, if you're like, not dedicated to serving the poor.
	If you're not dedicated i'm not saying this to you, particularly me Russell, because I feel, like anyone that's been in the military i'm totally down with like you know, like that you don't know what it's like to be an outsider and a poor person, and Jesus would have like just gone and hung with them trans folks and the, the people that were considered freaks and broken, and I don't doubt that as well, by the way.
	I reckon that our lord would be down and he'd be with all the people that are like down abortion clinics, like he'd be down there trying to love everyone back to wellness.
	So what do you think uh, about the less vivid forms of sin that are not so easily targeted as being one side of the political aisle?
	When you sort of say people having sex changes, it's pretty obvious that we're talking about wokeism and all that kind of whole trans argument.
	That sort of seems to be in decline now, anyway.
	But when you're talking about sort of meanness and usury and control of money well, that's then yeah, that's got, they've got both sides covered.
	Well, it's two sides of the same coin, isn't it?
	Um, and this is what you're talking about is rampant materialism, and rampant materialism is once again putting something else in the place of god.
	You're putting material wealth, material gain, material greed, material control in the place of god.
	You're worshiping those things, those items, those goods, and you know it's it's it's, this is, of course.
	Jesus spoke out against this so many times.
	So Junitson, when Solzhenitsyn came and have you read or or watched, when Soljanitson spoke at Harvard University at the commencement in the 1970s?
	Well, the whole clip, the whole clip.
	It's all brown and bait.
	It's probably about 50 minutes long.
	What you want me to watch?
	A whole clip, a whole clip.
	Just watch a two-minute tick tock thing.
	I'm not reading the whole thing.
	Russell, this is your.
	I'm giving you homework because it's fantastic, it's phenomenal when, when Sojanitson Comes to Harvard.
	And I forget the exact year.
	It's 1970s.
	It's after Gulag Archipelago has come out.
	You're going to watch it right now.
	Watch after.
	He's going to watch it right now.
	Just finding it, because otherwise I'll forget.
	He comes in, and everybody thought that he's going to come in and he's going to talk about how great the West is and how bad communism is.
	He's going to say that, well, communism is terrible and your system is great.
	That's not what he does.
	That's not what he does at all.
	Solzhenitsyn comes to the United States, to Harvard University, to give a commencement address.
	And what does he do?
	He criticizes the West.
	He criticizes Harvard University.
	He criticizes the United States.
	And what does he say?
	Our problem in the Soviet Union was that we forgot God and we put equity and justice and communal shared.
	Everyone's going to be the same and be co-equals in the revolution.
	We put the revolution as our new God and we forgot God.
	And you know what your problem in the West is?
	You have put commercialism and materialism and greed and material wealth and material items in the place of God and you have forgotten about God too.
	And he goes on for 50 minutes talking about this.
	Here it is.
	It's brilliant.
	It's all good.
	You know, like you'll find it on YouTube with a go to rumble, for God's sake, go to rumble.
	Harvard address, Solzhenitsyn addresses Harvard.
	That's it.
	Couldn't be more brown.
	He's wearing brown.
	The background's brown.
	Good luck concentrating the whole way through that.
	You'll need brown to get through it.
	You'll see, Jack, the last thing I'm listening to is Father Mike Schmitz doing last Sunday's Mass.
	We will watch that.
	We will watch it because wouldn't it be extraordinary?
	You know, like these entities that we're discussing and talking around, our Lord, the same before, after, always, the power of God is unaltering to the point that it's atemporal and outside of time, we might assume.
	And so that's what it says in here.
	I wonder if one of the sort of counterfeit actions that you ascribe, as does scripture, to Satan and the demons.
	And I hope you'll tell me whether or not I'm the first person that's told you that it's interesting, isn't it, that C.S. Lewis depicts this demonic realm as a type of bureaucracy.
	You'll know that Ms. Flares, oh, I've written to this person here and the papers are coming through.
	That's my favorite part of the book.
	That's my favorite part of it.
	So I wonder if like the Terry Gilliam.
	Yeah, it is very Terry Gilliam.
	It's very sort of surreal and comedic.
	And I suppose, yeah, that's interesting.
	I wonder if Pythons, the Pythons would think of themselves as being influenced by something like screw tape letters and the sort of inverted commas surreal aspect of it.
	The reason I like it, though, is because it's bureaucracies that have that power now.
	And to your point about Solzhenitsyn's Harvard address, him in telling the audience that you may think that you're doing things super different from the Soviet Union, but in a way, you've just found a new configuration in the way that Soviet communism empowered the state.
	Absolutely.
	What you have is this beautiful charade of democracy where the same interests, likely even the same interests that were behind the Russian Revolution, are able to manage power invisibly without impact.
	And I think that's not just in terms of space, but also in terms of time.
	The kind of powers that we have to address, I think, right now, because time is almost speeding up.
	The speed of communication is speeding up.
	You touched upon, you know, the papyrus times of scripture and then the Gutenberg press times of scripture.
	Now it's the binary digital AI times of scripture.
	How can time be considered the same when communication is so much faster?
	It's like the material itself, Jack, is sort of mobile.
	The superstate of potentiality has gone mobilized.
	And what I feel we might be in is this kind of critical moment where if we don't escalate our discourse to the point of actually telling people it's about Jesus, it's explicitly about Jesus and really getting to him as quick as possible and being raw and bare about our own brokenness and disgustingness,
	that people will just keep getting funneled off into false idolatry in the same way in the 20th century, the vast icons of capitalism and communism were able to divide people and threshold them to a level where they were malleable.
	My word, now the tools of AI mass communication, if those tools are marshaled by a centralized power, whether it tells us that it's communist or libertarian, is irrelevant.
	Really, what we have to participate in, do you agree?
	Is the communication of his name?
	Every knee will bend, every mouth will proclaim, every tongue will proclaim, every knee will bend, every head will bow.
	And also, my particular message, or it's not mine, actually, I've just heard someone else say it, like the decentralization, that as long as power is consolidated in any form, there's going to be a problem.
	Anything we can do to empower the individual, empower the family, empower the community, we must do.
	People should be able to grow their own food where possible, rear their own food, hunt their own food.
	People should be connected to the land and to one another, not the dislocation that benefits mass markets, whether that's the most commercial thing you can imagine on something like Amazon or Apple, or the most terrible iterations of communism, like the Chinese Communist Party or whatever the hell's going on in Russia right now.
	So in any event, decentralization of power that's now possible due to these same demonic.
	Oh, there he goes.
	That's Saul Snitson.
	I'm truly happy to be here on the occasion.
	He started off well.
	Whichever iteration of it is, Jack, the solution's the same, isn't it?
	It's this, it's this.
	Oh, it absolutely is.
	And what you said about separation, this is something that I've been, you know, sort of self-meditating.
	Obviously, thinking about Charlie a lot.
	And, you know, it colors all of my thoughts and all my actions.
	But something that I've come to realize more is that what did Charlie do with his time?
	And why did he spend so much time going to these college campuses?
	And I say, Charlie, it's a college campus.
	You've done it before.
	You've done it a million times.
	Why do you keep going?
	Why, you know, it's the same clips, the same arguments over and over and over.
	And the kids, someone's good, someone's bad, whatever.
	And I realized something.
	I realized, I think, a piece that I was missing is that Charlie realized that the way to fight these things, the way to fight these phones, the way to fight the digital online virtual space was to force you.
	And I've gone with them to be back in reality.
	Touch grass, touch campus, touch one another, be in the physical space together.
	Because when you're in the physical space, you're a human being.
	When you're here, you are an internet-based identity.
	You can be the idea of Russell Brand or Charlie Kirk or Jack Pesobic or whoever, right?
	Candace Owens.
	You're the idea.
	You're just a two-dimensional representation of a human being.
	You are an index.
	You're a footprint, right?
	That's a footprint of the action that was made by the actual individual on a screen, not the actual person themselves.
	So you're just seeing the footprint.
	You're not seeing the actual one.
	But when you do see the actual person in reality and you're connected to others around you that are in that actual physical space, now you're doing so in a way that's God intended.
	This phone is not.
	Now, imagine the power that comes together when all those people come together and you're proclaiming God's name, you're saying his name, you're praising him, or in fact, you're even praying together at the same time.
	And this is the greatest power that we have to gather and proclaim his name because if we do, and to worship our creator, to worship God, because if this is the highest and best use of our spiritual life together, this community, this communalism, and community to worship God, this is the church.
	This is Sunday, or sometimes we go Saturday night.
	You know, this is actually a way to fight back by getting more people to want to do that.
	You don't go because, oh, it's Sunday morning and your mom says it's nine o'clock and you have to get dressed to go.
	No, you go because God wants you to worship him because God knows that if you make worship of God at the center of your life, then there is no one and there is nothing that can break between you and him and lead you astray down one of these false paths, whether it be communism, whether it be usury, whether it be pornography, none of them.
	Today is Tuesday.
	That's the day of the sorrowful mysteries.
	Should we do a rosary, Jack?
	And do you know how to do it that bit where you do the first bit and I do the second bit?
	The only time I've ever really prayed it is with my mate Joe.
	I pray the rosary every day.
	And just so people won't know this, Jack gave me these.
	That's why I'm brandishing these.
	Yeah, that's why we're having similar rosaries here.
	Yeah, like this is, I'll show these to my friends a bunch.
	You know, like these are the ones that Jack distributes to the Marines.
	This particular one's got St. Michael Archangel Michael, excuse me, on this shield.
	I really love it.
	I feel very satisfied.
	I'm going to do these.
	Now, I sometimes pray the rosary with my mate Joe, who was part of my baptism.
	I sometimes pray the rosary with beloved Jonathan Rumi, who plays our Lord and Savior in the Chosen.
	But the more we're talking about this, the more I was telling you, the more I was listening to you there saying that this is what we've got to do, I was thinking, well, why don't we just do one together now?
	What else are we going to do?
	Talk about our opinions.
	No, of course not.
	And do you know how to do it, Jack, where like you do a bit like that one?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I know what you mean.
	What's funny enough is when I do it with my kids, we do it a little differently because we switch off.
	How do you mean?
	How?
	So we do it a little differently with my kids is I'll do a Hail Mary and then we'll go around in a circle.
	If we're all together, I'll do one, then my wife will do one, then my son, my other, whoever's with us, will do, we'll do the whole thing, go through.
	But that's, I know that's not how normal, you know, most people do it.
	Certainly not how my kids do it.
	It's everything I can manage to stop my kids outwardly worshiping the devil.
	Now, if I stop that, if I can stop their actual devil worship, then I consider it a trial.
	Do you want me to do the Apostles' Creed?
	I know it because it's in my brain already.
	Let's do it.
	Go for it.
	In the name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was conceived of the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.
	He descended into hell on the third day, rose again from the dead.
	He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty.
	From there, he'll come to judge for living and the dead.
	I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting.
	Amen.
	Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
	Thy kingdom come.
	Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
	Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace.
	The Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace.
	The Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us in this now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Glory be to the Father.
	Glory be to the Father and to the Son, to the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be.
	World of our end.
	Amen.
	Today it's Tuesday, says the sorrowful mysteries.
	And the first sorrowful mystery is he is in the garden of Gethsemane and he swears blood.
	Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
	Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
	Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us in this now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us in this now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us in this now and the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us in as now and the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now in the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now in the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Glory be to the Father and to the Son, to the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be.
	World of our end.
	Amen.
	Almighty Jesus, forgive us our sins.
	Save us from the fires of hell.
	Lead all sorts of heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy.
	Thy mercy.
	Second sorrowful mystery.
	Oh, yeah, you do it, Jack.
	You do it.
	I'll do it.
	The second sorrowful mystery, the scourging at the pillar.
	And the scourging at the pillar, this is when Christ is tortured.
	He's tortured for us.
	He's tortured for our sins.
	He's whipped with barbs, the cat of nine tails.
	Pilate says he finds no curse in him, and yet he is ordered to be tortured with leather scong, leather thongs, anyway.
	Weird, do you want to do it?
	I'll start it and you do the second.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women and blessed the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women and blessed the fruit of thy womb Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women and blessed the fruit of thy womb Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women and blessed the fruit of thy womb Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women and blessed are the fruit of thy womb Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women and blessed the fruit of thy womb Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women and blessed the fruit of thy womb Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women and blessed the fruit of thy womb Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us in this now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women, and blessed the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women and blessed the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Glory be to the Father and to the Son, to the Holy Spirit.
	It was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be.
	World of our end, amen.
	Amen.
	Oh, my Lord.
	Oh, my Jesus, forgive us our sins.
	Save us from the fires of hell.
	Lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy.
	The third sorrowful mystery is the crowning with fawns, the humiliation, the nudity, the bearing of shame, the bearing of shame of our Lord.
	Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
	Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
	Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
	Need us not in heaven, especially those most need of thy mercy.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for our sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women.
	And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for our sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for our sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for our sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for our sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
	As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be.
	World without end.
	Amen.
	Oh, my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell.
	Lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy.
	Fourth sorrowful mystery, the carrying of the cross.
	Jesus is condemned to death.
	The fruit of this is the patient bearing of trials.
	We all have to bear trials in our day.
	We all have to carry our cross, none greater than Christ.
	But we must learn from his example to bear the trials that are given to us.
	Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
	Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
	Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
	And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women, and blessed are the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women, and blessed are the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women, and blessed are the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women, and blessed the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women, and blessed are the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women, and blessed are the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou among women, and blessed the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Glory be the Father, the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be a world without end.
	Amen.
	Without end, amen.
	Almighty Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell.
	The fifth sorrowful mystery is the crucifixion.
	As Christ is crucified and dies and said, it is finished.
	The veil of the curtain is torn asunder, meaning we have direct access to our Lord and that the process of our portion in the Holy Spirit is begun in earnest.
	Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
	Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
	Give us this day our daily bread.
	Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
	Believe us not, it's temptation to deliver us from evil.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now at the hour of our death.
	Amen.
	Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
	Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	Santa Maria, Mater Dei, Or Pernobis Pecatoribus, Nunc editor of Mortis Nostre.
	Amen.
	Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, our life has sweetness, and our hope to thee that we cry, poor banished children of Eve, to thee that we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.
	Turn their most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us.
	And after this, our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
	O Clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary, pray for us, O Holy Mother of God, that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
	Oh, God, whose only begotten Son by his life, death, and resurrection has purchased for us the rewards of eternal life.
	Grant, we beseech thee that while meditating on these mysteries of the most holy rosary of the blessed Virgin Mary, that we may imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise through the same Christ our Lord.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	Name the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
	Amen.
	You do Saint Michael?
	You'll have to teach me it.
	Saint Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle.
	Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
	May God rebuke him.
	We humbly pray.
	And do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world, seeking the ruin of souls.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	I hate them ruinous demons.
	That was good stuff, Jack.
	That was good stuff.
	That was good.
	We did some work today.
	We did some work today.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I wonder what it's going to be like this next bit.
	You know, at some point, I'm, you know, I'm going to the UK next year for my trial in June where I stand.
	I heard about rape.
	Yeah, I'll be doing that.
	And it's sort of between now and then, really, I'm just getting myself into fit spiritual shape to handle that.
	It's not really complicated because I know that I'm broken and I'm a sinner.
	And I know that I did things that were wrong.
	And I actually specifically know that it's wrong to be promiscuous and to exploit women through the position of power that fame grants you.
	But I know also that that is very different from making someone do something they don't want to do, coercing, invading, intruding.
	And I've checked my spirit and I've checked my records.
	And that's not something I've ever done or would ever do.
	What's strange, though, is knowing that I am a broken sinner and through him I am forgiven and redeemed.
	But there is no, it's interesting, isn't it?
	What I think happens once you grant godlike power to the state, and by the state, I mean not only, you know, sort of the criminal prosecution or the media or the government or big businesses and corporations.
	I mean the kind of nexus of relationships that together are more powerful, at least on the earthly realm, than God, have more authority, have more ability to determine the outcome of your life, to direct you, whether it's some poor kid staring at a phone, taking their dictums from the culture or people that are being destroyed in wars, whatever.
	Like this is the work of the evil one.
	And I believe in justice and you can't have justice without God.
	I believe in truth and you can't have truth without God.
	And it's, I just think it's so glorious and fascinating, Jack, that we're alive at this time where it just seemed that the argument was over, that people were just moving further and further into the worship of the culture.
	And we're that because of some accident, you know, or his design of where we find ourselves, we're in it, man.
	We're in it.
	People that do this stuff, you know, talk on the internet about the news.
	No, we are.
	And look, you know, I obviously am aware of, you know, what you're going through and the patient bearing of trials.
	I wasn't even thinking about that when I mentioned because that's the spiritual fruit of the fourth sorrowful mystery, the carrying of the cross, is the patient bearing of trials.
	And I hadn't even connected it when I said that because that's what you always say.
	And I just hope that you will keep that rosary or whatever rosary bear close with you every single day, wherever you go.
	And, you know, it's something to have.
	It's tangible.
	It's physical.
	And they can't take it from you.
	And even if they do physically take it, they can't take it from up here and they can't take it from in here because that's what carries us through.
	That's what carries us through everything is that connection to source, that connection to spirit.
	So whatever the trial is and whatever it be, whether it's a literal trial as you are facing or a trial that anyone could be facing.
	You're in a trial with your loved one and a trial with your parents and a trial with your child.
	There's all sorts of trials we can face.
	But it's always through reliance on Christ that we can overcome them and that we can go through them.
	Thank you.
	I move into self-reliance a lot.
	You know, like I drift into self-reliance.
	I feel like if I don't take control of this, nobody else is going to.
	Yeah, that's the fight, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	What I like about it, as opposed to say, like for years, Jack, when I was having conversations about politics, a lot of people, what they say is, how can we do anything?
	I can't do anything.
	I'm just one person.
	But actually, that's where it all takes place is on the battleground within you.
	As St. Francis said, sanctify yourself to sanctify society.
	By going through this process of sanctification, we become vibrant participants and channels of the holy grace of our Lord.
	So it's not that you're some irrelevant node somewhere purchasing things through Uber Eats or whatever it is people do nowadays or mindlessly masturbating over OnlyFans.
	Like if you are a participant in your consciousness in what seems to me to be a very real spiritual war, and I'll grab you on the same side, Jack.
	Tucker said something to me at Charlie's Memorial that really stuck with me about that.
	And it similar to what you just said, he said, in the Lord's Prayer, forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
	But which one is first?
	Forgive us.
	So we are called to make right our own sins, make right our own bad behavior, make criticism of ourself before we can focus on others, before we can forgive others, before we can criticize others, we have to come at ourselves because it's easy to criticize others.
	It's fun.
	I like it.
	It's hard to criticize ourselves.
	I'm very good at criticizing others.
	I can tell them a thing or two about themselves.
	I can break them down.
	My wife, I can break down everything she's done wrong.
	You did this wrong.
	That was wrong.
	You should have done that.
	That should have happened before.
	Well, see, I don't know how to criticize my wife because I've never had to.
	No.
	Oh, man.
	That's cheap.
	That's cheap.
	It was very cheap.
	It was very cheap.
	I just wanted you to see this clip, dear.
	She knows the truth.
	She knows the truth.
	Hey, nice one, Jack.
	Thanks, man.
	I hope we get together soon.
	Are you going to that thing, that turning point thing?
	I'm going to that on the 18th.
	Are you at that?
	Is that something you're in?
	Yeah.
	You'll be there.
	On the 18th?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Then I'm there.
	We'll be there together.
	We'll do another rosary.
	Praise the Lord.
	Thanks, man.
	God bless.
	Well, that's all we've got time for today.
	Thanks for joining us.
	And we'll be back live, actually, on Friday.
	We're going to be talking about, but I'm going to be talking about these Epstein files, man.
	I want to talk about occultism.
	I want to talk about sort of a, you know, say all these people that I know in the space.
	So everyone's sort of like, it's weird.
	It's weird and interesting and important.
	Like when I see people now in the UK talking about like being on podcasts talking about football or maybe nostalgically reminiscing about David Bowie, I think that ain't the conversation, man.
	Things are getting heavy.
	Not that I'm not excited that the World Cup's in here.
	Please, God, get through the old rape trial in June.
	Then, by your grace, father, then I can be at the World Cup.
	There's going to be in Mexico and America, North America, I mean, and Canada.
	That'd be so good.
	That'd be so cool.
	That'd be cool, man.
	That'd be cool.
	Anyway, what I'm saying is the culture, as you know, is irrelevant and redundant and just trying to sell you stuff and fill your mind with mad abstract ideas.
	But God is real, so I suppose we're all going to be all right.
	Are we?
	Let me know in the comments and chat.
	The conversation on Friday, we'll be talking about all that, as well as there being contributions from Jake, who's standing just there, the producer.
	Prove it, Jake.
	That's the evidence.
	There's vibration in sound form down the microphone right to your mind.
	So, and also, Dave, and also Joe, and also Matthew, who cuts the show, and be watching this before that.
	And hopefully, I'll make him step right up.
	As well, we do our unpacked episodes.
	Here's a little moment from one of the unpacked right now.
	Some high-profile offenses, such as watch theft, are falling.
	Woohoo!
	Watches are not being stolen.
	Brilliant.
	The fact is, there's an existential crisis.
	Britain is falling apart, but there's total despair everywhere.
	No faith in our leadership, no ideology, no clear identity.
	But you can hang on to your kettle.
	No one's after your watch.
	You're all right there, son.
	Great news.
	Possibly also, people don't wear watches anymore.
	That might be impacting that particular statistic.
	See?
	Good, aren't they?
	I enjoyed it.
	What?
	Oh, well, we'll see you on Friday.
	Not for more of the same, but for more of the different.

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