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May 15, 2025 - Stay Free - Russel Brand

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	you.
	Thank you.
	In this video, you're going to see the future.
	Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
	It's my favourite show of the week.
	It's where I get to share the microphone, the camera, the limelight and sometimes sexual fluids with the team here.
	Here they all are.
	If you're watching us on X or YouTube, join me, Jake.
	Isaac, Massey, and Luke for our first day.
	I don't want to say gangbang because of the implications, and we're talking about OnlyFans a little while later.
	If you ain't got Rumble Premium yet, get Rumble Premium now.
	Over the course of the show, I mean, we're going to be talking about Bill Gates and a level of nefarious malfeasance that will be hard to believe unless you've been studying him.
	Let me know in the comments and chat if you know why Bill Gates remains an adored billionaire in social...
	No, not social.
	In legacy media spaces.
	Like, why is...
	Stephen Colbert almost willing to fellate Bill Gates' life.
	Not that I imagine it'd take long, because I think, I'm guessing that it wouldn't take a lot to make Bill Gates ejaculate.
	I'm just guessing that he'd be quite good.
	Over.
	I don't think it'll be like, oh, come on, Bill, what does it take?
	Like, I remember when I was out there in the world, some people, it was like getting a PhD.
	What does it take, Lord?
	I've worked so hard!
	Man, okay, listen, let's not get into all that stuff.
	Not with the Diddy trial up in action.
	We've got so many things to talk about over the next hour.
	We'll be talking about Bill Gates, we'll be talking about our Lord and Saviour, Joe Rogan.
	No, our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, and Joe Rogan.
	Could he be...
	The prophet, this revival required to bring people to Christ.
	We'll talk about that.
	Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
	First up though, is there anything that I need to talk about here?
	One.
	back to work.
	There are even another source of health care.
	That's your tax dollars, bitches, paying for that.
	That's Democrat representative Debbie Dingwell, Debbie Dingell, Debbie Dingell.
	And also Adolf Hitler's making a return to the highlights.
	We had to reopen the book on whether or not Hitler's a good guy.
	Thanks to Kanye West's new hit record, N-word, Heil Hitler.
	Apparently Hitler's out about in Thailand, living large.
	What's going on in that country, man?
	What's going on over there?
	The Thai people, they're some of the most gentle people on earth.
	Much too young.
	I've had sex with prostitutes in Thailand.
	Me, not them.
	I hasten to add when I was about 16 years old and woke me up to a world of wonder, I've got to tell you.
	A world of wonder.
	Let's have a look at...
	This is Tim Dillon talking about Sam Harris, but I think it's Tucker Carlson talking about it.
	Am I right, guys?
	Is it Tucker's analysis?
	Tim Dillon pointed out the sort of peculiar fact that Sam Harris runs a meditation app and by day is like, okay, breathe, you know, let go, observe your thoughts like clouds.
	But elsewhere has pretty strong views on Israel's role in the Middle East and their, I don't know, lack of liability when it comes to events in Gaza.
	Let's have a look.
	Every now and then, they throw a person at you, this establishment, which again, it's not...
	I like Tim Dillon a lot, and I like the look of his show.
	I've never actually watched the whole episode.
	It's probably like this show, isn't it?
	Most people don't watch.
	Like, you just watch a bit of Tim Dillon, innit?
	Like, but whenever I see it, I think, "Oh, it's pretty bloody good, that." I like that backdrop and everything.
	Let's nick a few of his ideas.
	Which, again, it's not...
	it's amorphous.
	It's not left or right.
	Like, for example, Sam Harris, who's a liberal but critical of Islam and pro-free speech...
	But not pro all free speech, who's a very smart guy but kind of hard to pinpoint.
	His media in the future is just going to be comedians behind desks talking about one another on...
	Yeah, ad infinitum, until eventually that comedian gets charged with some historic offence or called racist or put in jail.
	You can do it for a while, yeah, you can have a go.
	No, no, that's too rude.
	You're out, you're out.
	No, that's too close to the truth.
	You're out.
	Tim Dillon, enjoy it while it lasts, baby.
	It's hard to pinpoint.
	Who runs a meditation app, but also believes that Israel should just bomb anyone at any time.
	It is hilarious to be a guy who runs a meditation app.
	And he spends half the time telling people about breathing and how to self-actualize.
	And the other half of the time telling people that we need to bomb as many children as humanly possible until Israel feels comfortable.
	That's just an interesting archetype of person.
	It just is.
	Okay, I want everybody right now to breathe.
	I want you to breathe in and out.
	I want you to breathe in and out.
	Breathe in and out.
	I want to start from your breath and start from your breathing.
	What we need to do is indiscriminately bomb women and children.
	We need to indiscriminately bomb women and children right now.
	Imagine you're a drone.
	Feel the freedom of being a drone.
	Oh my god.
	That's good stuff.
	That's well identified.
	That's the freedom that comedy can give you.
	Having a comedic perspective.
	Is most liberating.
	Yeah, respect.
	That's a good bit.
	That's a good bit.
	Elsewhere in our mad terrain, this is OnlyFans.
	Oh, this OnlyFans model took it to Charlie Kirk.
	Yeah, I saw this.
	I saw this.
	I like this a great deal.
	This is a lady that was on OnlyFans that came to Jesus.
	Careful how you phrase that.
	Hi, Charlie.
	I'm Nala Ray.
	It's so nice to be here today.
	So I was one of OnlyFans' top models for the last five years, and I got saved, and I radically gave my life to the Lord and gave that life up.
	Praise the Lord.
	So I want to know, would you support a ban on porn in America, and what would you do to make that happen?
	Unfortunately, I don't think it's legal, but absolutely.
	I mean, first of all, porn is no different than a digital opiate and an addiction.
	I mean, we've seen states that have made it harder to access, and porn rates have gone down.
	But you were once an OnlyFans model.
	What would you have to say?
	Is he going to say performer person?
	What do you guys think about that?
	What do you think about...
	See, I admire Charlie.
	I'm just watching two other content creators.
	Tim Dillon, I admire his comedic freedom there.
	He's just like letting rip.
	Then Charlie Kirk, much more overtly Republican than me.
	I'm not really a Republican person.
	I don't have a political home no more.
	But like, you know, he's been Christian a long time.
	Then people like him and Crowder that will set up on a college campus and debate.
	Oh my God, I'm too sensitive.
	I don't even like sort of being with my own friends and family.
	I'm worried about what people are going to say.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, set yourself up where people are actually going to assault you and insult you.
	What do you think about it, Jake?
	I think it's amazing.
	I think it's like sitting around a table but just opening up the table to anyone.
	Hey, say what you want to say.
	It's a kind of fearlessness to him.
	I've spoke to Charlie Kirk.
	I've never met Tim Dillon.
	I like him a lot.
	But, like, Charlie Kirk, I've met him and he's a...
	He's intense.
	He's on mine.
	I had him on the same time as Bongino one time, and I was trying to work out who I could tease.
	If I can't tease Bongino, he'll snap my head off.
	So I went for Charlie Kirk, just teasing with love, because he's sort of like, you know, he's throwing it away.
	That kind of stuff, but I'm not sure that I landed it.
	He's far away.
	He's far away from him.
	There is a bit of a distance.
	Right, it's not going to be a physical threat, but I'm just...
	I think it's a near miracle what I've endured.
	Because I'm a sensitive guy.
	I don't really like being attacked.
	I once saw Kanye saying, you know, there's people like Russell Brand, they can't crush him because he's fearless.
	And I thought, I'm fucking terrified, mate.
	Every second of the day.
	Like, I was just like, it's just exhausting.
	But what I do know is that there's always been something in me, some sort of ripcord that I now recognise as having, can be illuminated by the holy power of the Lord, of like, you're going to die anyway, man.
	You're going to die anyway.
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	Okay, so that's...
	It's sort of heartening to see an OnlyFans model.
	Interesting as well to see Charlie Kirk say that porn should be banned.
	Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat with me for free speech reasons.
	You can't ban porn.
	But would it be a better world without porn?
	Of course it would.
	Have there been times in my life where porn was holding my life together?
	Indeed.
	Like when I was young, man, I just lived for porn.
	Porn was kind of like my religion.
	And I guess that's possibly...
	The problem.
	Before we have a look at the new Superman trailer, which I would say, this is the first post-Trump movie.
	And I know that Hollywood in general trends liberal and is a liberal sort of aspect of the establishment.
	But I don't think you would make this Superman trailer pre-Trump.
	This is a total...
	This is the first post-Trump...
	Superhero.
	Listen to how this guy's talking.
	He might as well have been Supertrump.
	I mean, check it out.
	Let's get into this.
	Are you being serious right now?
	Yeah.
	You'd let me interview you as...
	So James Gunn's Guardian of the Galaxy, so he's, like, inject...
	It's sort of like comedy and humour into the Marvel franchise.
	Even though the Marvel franchise was always pretty funny, James Gunn was the person who was credited with really...
	That was a surprise hit.
	The Guardians of the Galaxy had no business being as big a hit as it was, even though I suppose it's sort of massive.
	So is he going to be able to invest a DC project with that same amount of zeal, humour and enthusiasm?
	Note already, the dynamic is...
	A female journalist taking a powerful man to task.
	These are dynamics that have emerged in the last 20, 30 years.
	That's a sort of a very recognizable dynamic.
	Let me interview you as Superman.
	Sure.
	Skiss
	Ready?
	Let's do it, Cronkite.
	Interesting reference, because what year is this?
	So is it set in the 1980s?
	Walter Cronkite, do you guys all still know who that is?
	Superman.
	Miss Lane.
	Recently, you've come under a lot of fire for what some might...
	It's a lot of fire.
	It's a lot.
	Today, the Secretary of Defense said he was going to look into your actions.
	That's funny.
	My actions?
	I stopped a war.
	Maybe.
	Not maybe.
	I did.
	In effect, you...
	That's when I start to think Trump.
	Now, maybe I did.
	That's not the liberal Superman of previous incarnations.
	We've not gone for a dark, gothic version of Superman or sort of a monochrome, noir-ish Superman.
	This is vivid and lurid, but a Superman that's being forced to live in a more complex world.
	I always found Superman a difficult superhero.
	Precisely because of his infallibility other than with Kryptonite and General Zod and all that stuff.
	Whereas Batman's flawed, Spider-Man hated, Hulk tortured, Iron Man self-made.
	A lot of other superheroes have different dimensions to him.
	Superman, he's Jesus, isn't he really?
	In effect, you illegally entered a country.
	This is how you're going to be?
	I'm not the one being interviewed, Superman.
	Also, that's a liberal perspective, isn't it?
	That's a liberal perspective versus a conservative.
	We did what we had to do.
	Big Daddy is dead.
	Like, you illegally entered a country.
	Superman?
	Did you consult with the president?
	No.
	You seemingly acting as a representative of the United States.
	I wasn't representing anybody except for me.
	And doing good.
	I think these days if you show a tower falling over in a movie, that's such a sort of potent piece of American iconography.
	I don't know if you've ever looked at the number of skyscrapers collapsing in and around and prior, importantly, prior to 9-11.
	It was almost like a cultural moment where the image of falling towers and decimation of cities became very prominent and popular right before that literally actually happened.
	Obviously, excuse me, the Tower of Babel is an image that's sort of resonant for all humankind.
	The image of the tower is, of course, it's priapic and it's phallic, but it's...
	Also, it's man's power can ascend and transcend the limits of nature.
	I guess masonry is why stonemasons and masonic culture important because they're the first people that managed to manipulate and manoeuvre and build and create spaces that were beyond shelter.
	They were actually now, we're making permanent incursions into the natural world.
	I would question myself in the same situation and consider the consequences.
	People were going to die!
	Superman!
	Hey, buddy.
	Eyes up here!
	Are we supposed to look at that person's butt?
	That was framing that person's butt wasn't it?
	Your choices.
	Your actions.
	That's what makes you who you are.
	That's what makes you who you are.
	Superman.
	He's not a man.
	He's an it.
	It's somehow become the focal point of the entire world's conversation.
	I will not accept that.
	I cleaned your boots.
	I'll go get him for you.
	I'll go get him for you.
	A lot going on.
	Looks pretty amazing.
	A lot of enemies.
	Who's that Godzilla one?
	Who's this teenage Lex Luthor?
	Lad out of a bar, boys.
	Lex Luthor.
	Young Magneto.
	No, young beast as a baddie.
	A lot for Superman to contend with there.
	I would say this Superman looks like an essay on American power in the post-Trump age.
	What is masculinity?
	What is militarism?
	What is power itself?
	I noticed in the first trailer they made that dog more prominent.
	They've like moved that dog to the periphery because people aren't ready for the ridiculousness.
	I reckon what you'll get is a very humorous take on superheroes at a time where people are uncertain about what they want.
	That's just based on the trailer.
	But is Superman, James Gunn's Superman, the first post-Trump superhero movie that knows it has to reach out to the MAGA movement and the Trump bros?
	Can't be one of those kind of Marvel liberal movies that take a very particular...
	Potentially pejorative position when it comes to right-wing politics.
	Curious.
	That's why I think, though, let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
	Let's open up the floor now to this glorious team here.
	What were you saying, Jake?
	I think they just tried to put every bad guy in there as they could because they were like, are we going to get to make...
	Is there going to be a sequel loading up?
	Was that meant to be General Zod in them white jackets?
	I feel like.
	Zod would never wear that.
	The logo looked a little different too, huh?
	That was weird.
	Do you know when I was a kid, when I used to draw the Superman logo, I didn't know that it was a yellow S on a red background.
	I tried to draw the red bits, like, but not knowing that it was an S. So I drew the negative space, as it were, you know?
	Like, so if it's like, because it's an S, isn't it?
	Like, in a shape, right?
	But the S leaves in its borders.
	As you can see here, I used to try and draw that bit and that bit and that bit.
	I used to draw those bits as if it wasn't.
	I didn't know that there was an S in the middle.
	And that's when you knew you were a genius.
	I see the world differently than you.
	Give me a podcast.
	Hey, Isaac, you're a nerd.
	What do you think about it?
	I loved it.
	Well done, success.
	What do you think about Gaza?
	Well, you know why James Dunn is directing it, right?
	Go on, go to your point.
	Well, he was ousted by Marvel because he got cancelled for some Twitter posts that he made back in the day, and they took him off of Guardians of the Galaxy.
	And then when people basically went up in a riot over that, they asked him to come back.
	So he did Guardians of the Galaxy 3, but then he did the Suicide Squad, the second one.
	Is that good, the one with the shark head?
	Yes, the second one was really good.
	The first one was garbage.
	So the second one was really good, and they basically had him head up the entire DC cinematic universe and took out, basically, I guess, Zack Snyder, who did the first couple of Superman movies.
	So that's why now he's doing all of the DC stuff.
	Well, it's good.
	It keeps it light.
	Massey, you're going to watch it.
	I've kind of gone a bit off superhero movies, but I thought that one was interesting.
	You say it seems like maybe a bit more right wing.
	In it, they said Superman, he's not a man, he's an it.
	And that's pointing to the fact that he's an alien, but he looks like a man, and yet we're all calling him man.
	So is this going to be like some backdoor, like transgender debate going on?
	Is Superman a man?
	Isn't he?
	Well, he looks like a man, but he's an alien.
	Therefore, you know, that kind of stuff.
	It's Superman.
	It's conclave Superman.
	It's conclave Superman.
	What if the Pope...
	Got a dicky and a vagina.
	Yeah!
	Why not, man?
	It's super hermaphrodite.
	What are you saying, Luke?
	I'm gonna go see it, but if I'm honest with you, I feel like the guy that they picked to play Superman, I feel like the guy that's playing, I don't know, is that young Lex Luthor or whoever, they all kind of look like goons.
	Like, I feel like the casting kind of sucked here.
	Maybe that's just me, but I feel like the casting sucked.
	Wrong.
	Do you know who I want?
	It's Jesus.
	Viggo Mortensen.
	I watched Lord of the Rings again lately.
	That guy should have played Jesus.
	He's beaming Christ energy throughout Lord of the Rings.
	He's arrogant.
	That's what I want.
	And Superman, yeah, he's got good Jesus vibes.
	He looks like you.
	He looks like Jesus.
	Do you want Jesus vibes from Superman?
	And, Massey, that's pretty interesting what you said, like, that you're over superhero movies.
	Is that because, like, Marvel just sort of wrung it out with Ant-Mans and Wasps and, like, too many sort of weird ensembler ones?
	I love all the 80s stuff, so, like, you know, Batman 1989 was incredible, but then getting into this new...
	It's like when people were into WWF wrestling back in the day when I was a kid.
	And then I grew up and people like WWE wrestling.
	I'm like, you're not too old for this.
	Because I know what's going to happen at the end of every movie.
	And I just, I can't go in and watch 30 movies where I know the bad guy's going to lose, the good guy's going to win.
	I can watch two maybe.
	So I'll watch Batman every now and then and I'll watch Superman.
	So I don't know if I'm going to watch this though.
	It doesn't look that good.
	Hmm, yeah.
	I like what you're saying about that, that James Gunn is a person that reinvests films with a bit of joy without compromising on drama.
	Because them Guardians of the Galaxy movie, that first one, it was dope, man.
	The music was fantastic.
	The cool relationships between people.
	It's enjoyable.
	Who don't love Chris Pratt?
	A whole lot of cool stuff going on.
	And Superman, I think, yeah, you've got...
	What I've always found with him as a character...
	I've always found it difficult to root for someone that's invincible.
	His invincibility is always a problem, so you have to introduce the fatal flaw and all of that.
	I don't know, man.
	I don't know.
	He's a complicated character.
	It looks better than other versions of it, but I think some of them other ones, like Smallville or whatever, I don't know.
	I never watched Smallville, but I tuned out after dear old Christopher Reeve.
	God love him.
	Well...
	The biggest issue that he has is being accepted by the people of Earth, essentially.
	Which is, I guess, to your point, kind of like the Jesus kind of story, right?
	Where people didn't accept him.
	People?
	Isaac?
	Or Jews?
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, at first, you know.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, no, I hear you.
	I hear you, mate.
	Yeah, like, that's...
	That is the issue, isn't it?
	In other Superman movies, the people have always been foaming at the gash for a bit of Superman.
	Not true.
	In the Man of Steel movie, he was basically put into the military confinement at that point where he broke his shackles.
	He broke the...
	The handcuffs to show them that he could just leave whenever he wanted, but he didn't because he wanted them not to be afraid of him.
	Yeah, but these are all these modern reboots of Superman.
	I mean, look about that.
	I like that square-jawed, zigzag, kiss-curl guy from the comic books.
	And then, do you remember when they used to have him in a TV show?
	And it was like Bill Haley playing him.
	He's just sort of like such an old duffer.
	As Superman, like picking up a truck and stuff.
	It's weird, isn't it?
	Because when you get to this age, you've lived with so many incarnations and iterations of these characters.
	I don't know, man.
	I suppose that's what an archetype is.
	You can use them to convey and carry whatever message you need to.
	So maybe Massey's right.
	Maybe this will be super trans.
	That's what's going to happen.
	Hey, should we do it?
	Alright, so that's...
	I don't think we can be that pun.
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	And Zionists, as well as queers and trans plus folk, can get together.
	And that's from Steve Bannon.
	Look at this here.
	I come on to Rumble to do my flower arranging.
	That's from Tommy Robinson in the UK.
	Look at this.
	I come on here just to look at men in tight-fitted denim hot pants.
	That's from Don Trump Jr.
	All in the Rumble chat.
	This is a free speech conduit where you're free to be whoever you wanna be.
	Look, you can say whatever you want in the comments.
	Like, "Glick me out my stoke hole." You can't sniff that on a Wednesday.
	You put that five knuckles deep, baby.
	Hey, Benjamin Netanyahu.
	You're always going on about Benjamin Netanyahu.
	The Houthis are coming.
	The Houthis are coming.
	How many people must be Clinton to death?
	You can say whatever you want.
	Sucks.
	And the White House cat's even killed itself.
	Chelsea Clinton, how she's surviving with them parents.
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	Luke's been in a discussion.
	Luke has been arguing with his friends.
	That's what it says here.
	Luke, are we going to talk about love on the spectrum, or do you want to talk about OnlyFans trend?
	Answer carefully.
	Big OnlyFans guy here, but I say we go the other direction.
	OnlyFans, you can't look at it.
	You must never.
	I love Jesus.
	I'm not touching OnlyFans.
	Well done.
	We can't continue to talk like this on YouTube.
	If you want to stay with us, click the link in the description and join us on Rumble.
	Now, like, because, like, whenever I talk about OnlyFans, I always feel like I'm lying.
	Like, because I've never, ever looked at it.
	But, like, me and my wife talk about it because, like, why is it we talk about it?
	Because there's a person we know that goes on it.
	And I'm always like, I just can't get my head around that.
	Like, if I was...
	Like, still a person who looked at pornography.
	You could meet someone, talk to them, like, and then go on the internet and, like, talk to them live and have them doing all sorts of stuff.
	I just feel like that is the highway right to hell.
	That's the super highway to hell right there.
	But it remains fascinating because of the normalization of pornography, the framing of pornography as empowerment.
	Should we look at this?
	Let's look at this trend because I reckon we could make a whole show about love on the spectrum.
	Let's have a look at this.
	This is a...
	Oh, this Massey bought this.
	This is a new OnlyFans trend.
	Sorry for burping.
	No, that's...
	No, that's wrong.
	That's like...
	Right, because consent...
	Because consent is everything.
	Oh man, this is a serious issue.
	I think these are AI.
	It gets better.
	It's AI.
	If only this new trend, is there something worse than hell?
	I don't think so.
	I think hell is the epitome of all evil and darkness.
	Massey, you should explain it, because when you explain it, it's pretty crazy.
	Okay.
	So it's not just about OnlyFans, it's about pornography in general, constantly trying to make things more extreme, as we all know.
	But the thing about OnlyFans is that this is now civilians doing pornography.
	You know, you used to have to go to Hollywood and all the rest of it and argue with your parents.
	Now you can just have an OnlyFans and start doing pornography at home.
	The thing is, OnlyFans girls have started infiltrating other, like...
	So if you go on Twitch, for example, it's meant to be a computer game, like streaming website, but slowly pornography is coming into it.
	And you find that a lot of these girls have OnlyFans.
	Same things on loads of other stuff.
	Reddit is absolutely full of this stuff.
	I'm on the drumming subreddit on Reddit.
	And every now and then you see like a girl there with a just in a bra playing the drums.
	And then you click through her profile, you find she's got an OnlyFans.
	Girls are not only doing pornography from home, they're now promoting it in other places and infiltrating, but now they're competing with each other, and this new trend with AI is they're putting Down Syndrome filters on themselves so they look like a hot girl with Down Syndrome to promote their OnlyFans, and this is like a new trend.
	you know i haven't been on any fans but i've seen this trend uh in other commentators kind of talking about it i've got some thoughts on it i don't know what you guys think about the way the world is going i mean who would have thought you could make your own pornography from home and you could make yourself look like you have If you have to make the moral argument for OnlyFans, it's the same argument that would be made when prostitutes are able to operate without the intervention of...
	A broker, agent, or pimp.
	People would say it's better that women have direct access because at least they're not being exploited or trafficked.
	There's a point, though, when I think you have to consider what the underlying phenomena of all reality is.
	Is there such a thing as good and evil?
	And what gets me is the commodification of everything and the boundlessness of everything.
	In the conversations we've had about Kanye West, In a way, he's creating, if you ask me, controlled detonations of taboos as only an artist can do.
	Now, that don't mean that if you are, as Isaac is Jewish, that the phrase Heil Hitler is not always going to contain a great deal of pain and resonance and despair, and that you can certainly make an argument for people not saying Heil Hitler.
	It's offensive in loads and loads of ways.
	Appropriate those tools and taboos and items and maybe do something interesting and explosive and indicative and revealing with those things.
	Now, are you saying then that Kanye West belongs to a strata of society by virtue of his success and excellence that doesn't include...
	Any young woman or man that can use OnlyFans having the right to deploy a filter to make themselves look down in an increasingly bizarre race to create novelty and arousal, I'd say it's no longer art anymore.
	I mean, it's not even supposed to be art anyway.
	I mean, pornography is obviously explicitly and obviously and functionally different from art.
	Pornography is, let's locate and isolate.
	The erotic and even really, to be honest, extract the love from it because once there's no longer a human interaction but it's being mediated through technology and screens, I just feel like it's actually, you know, you get...
	You can't be shocked.
	We're all on X. I don't know why there's naked women cropping up on my X feed.
	I don't follow anything that would lead to that, but there are naked women.
	And then I have to fight myself, because if I was on a drumming subreddit, and all of a sudden there's someone in a bra drumming, that's more interesting to me.
	That's always more interesting.
	And then if it's a hot woman with doubt, that's such an invasion of inquiry, I can't accommodate it.
	Can that person consent?
	Is it right to have sex with people?
	And that, again, actually does lead me to love on the spectrum because it exposes so much about liberal arguments because, as the title suggests, it is a spectrum.
	So there are some people with autism that are children.
	They're children.
	And, like, you know, children shouldn't be dating because children are not able to consent and they're pre-sexual.
	That's the definition of a child.
	Then there are other people on the spectrum, like, namely, I'd say Connor, Who's like an eccentric and highly sophisticated adult that's unusual.
	Is there anything wrong with him dating?
	No.
	Is he sufficiently able and mentally agile to consent to participate in Love on the Spectrum?
	Yes.
	But when it comes to that young couple that were on there...
	Yeah, I didn't think we were going to do it, I guess.
	I think it's the cowboy guy and...
	Is it?
	No, not Abby and David.
	Although, like, Abby and David are not sexual, if you ask me.
	I mean, not that it's my job to tell people who's sexual and who's not, particularly the mad situation I'm in.
	Thanks very much, man.
	Look, what I noticed when I was watching Love on the Spectrum is Madison and whoever the woman is that he's with.
	I don't know what the name of the woman is.
	There's the Western guy, and these are the ones I'm referring to.
	These two.
	Not dear Tanner, God love him.
	I guess Madison's one of them.
	They start to make out in one of the episodes.
	I'm talking about the guy in the Stetson and the young lady that collects dolls.
	And when she introduced him to her parents, they started making out in front of the parents because I suppose they don't know the social code that making out in front of your parents is taboo.
	I would say the fact that they don't understand that protocol is an indication that they probably don't understand the sophisticated protocols involved in giving your consent to participate in a documentary.
	Of course, that consent was likely given by their parents, but I hope that their parents in that moment questioned the...
	What do I want to say?
	The wisdom of that decision.
	I felt like, in the end, the programme makers of Love in the Spectrum want to have their cake and eat it.
	Because I know what it was.
	I've not read the press blurb.
	I know what they'll say.
	It creates awareness.
	People with autism, they find that it's helping them and it's empowering them and it's generating opportunities for them that they wouldn't otherwise have.
	And maybe the actual guy himself, like the guy that's off-camera, that's the auteur of the show, maybe he has the best intentions and hopefully, probably, he has a relative with autism or some sort of credentials that further legitimise his right to do it.
	But the problem is, is when you turn everything into an object, everything, whether it's a sexual object through pornography or a curio like this, like just something for us to look at and potentially laugh at.
	I just think we're in interesting moral territory, and I question the morality of the culture that permits it, and essentially monetizes it, because the minute the money stops, it stops.
	People don't make TV shows if they don't think it's going to make money.
	So whatever people are saying they're making it for, take out...
	Someone once said to me, if you want to know that if your friends are your friends because you give them money, because a lot of my friends worked for me, see what happens when the money stops.
	And guess?
	Fucking what?
	I learned some important lessons about the significance of money in those relationships.
	And like, so, would these people, you know, I think about it because I think about the documentary that was made about me, all these reasons.
	You know, I know the people that made the documentary about me were like, we're actually exposing an important thing.
	And, you know, like I said to you guys the other day, I mean, I'm, oh God, I don't want to be like a guy who bangs on about his divorce or his...
	Veruca's on his feet.
	But I just know that that documentary wouldn't have got made if it weren't for money, and I'm surprised that it got made when the people in it were not willing to go on camera.
	And I'm surprised that, given the success of the documentary in its own terms, that more documentaries about other people have not been made.
	And those things lead me to a whole bunch of questions, but I'm somewhat off track there, because really what I want to talk about is the morality and ethics of that kind of OnlyFans pornography and love on the spectrum.
	Massey, what do you think first, mate?
	Yeah, I haven't seen the love on the spectrum thing.
	I wanted to ask you, is it okay to joke about this stuff?
	Because, you know, what do you think about people...
	Because you said that some people might have this to laugh at it, as in love on the spectrum.
	Do you think...
	Because I've written a joke about it.
	I want to try it at a mic.
	I wanted to try it with you.
	And then I wanted to get your feedback on it, really.
	I think it's okay to joke about everything if your intention is not cruelty.
	You know, like, sort of, you know, like, sort of...
	Man, you know, we've all got relationships and connections to people in a variety of situations.
	When I'm making these jokes about Isaac and his Judaism, his racial and religious identity, what I'm doing in my mind, and I hope in Isaac's, is I'm saying, my God, there's this terrible subject in the world at the moment coalescing around Israel and Gaza that's dividing people and generating so much hate, but not here.
	Here, we're going to joke about it.
	Here, we don't care if you are a Muslim or if you're a Jew, and we're going to try and find ways of, like, our common humanity.
	That's what's sort of in my mind and heart.
	But I mess that up all the time, and I've made so many mistakes around it, like on an interpersonal level and on a social level, as in, do you remember when Robert Malone came on the show?
	Like, I made some joke about Robert Malone, and it pissed him off.
	But what I was trying to say is, I really love you, Robert Malone.
	That's what was in my heart.
	But I think what came out was like, well, Robert Malone, you're so important.
	I sort of offended him somehow.
	So do your joke and then let's let the internet decide.
	What a great way of setting up a joke.
	Do your joke.
	Now I was just gonna say to you guys I've tried to quit porn over the years and it's been almost impossible and with all the ways I've tried and failed at quitting porn over the years I thought I'd never be able to stop but then I saw this Down syndrome trend and that made quitting almost impossible.
	Nice, nice, nice.
	You see what I tried to do so I'm gonna go and try that but I wanna know how would you deliver that kind of joke I'm just interested in.
	I don't think that's a problem as a joke, that one Like the last minute reversal, I wouldn't repeat the phrase, I'd change it for the last one,
	I'd say something, and now I've committed to masturbating daily for the next six months, or now I find myself masturbating even while at work, but now my problem is premature ejaculation, or the problem is their grip's very strong.
	You know, like I'd maybe take it, try to ratchet it up.
	Like, with a more particular Down syndrome voice.
	Their mouths are swollen.
	I'd, like, sort of, like, make it somehow you'd have to up the ante or something.
	The problem is you can't get your penis between their bottom row of teeth and their bottom lip.
	So, like, I don't know.
	I'd be investigating ways to make it more disgusting.
	I'm reminded of, like, when they made that film called The Aristocrats.
	Where they showed a bunch of...
	There's a sort of famous joke, the aristocrats, and that people tell, and they show, excuse me, a variety of people telling it, Silverman, Seinfeld, the South...
	The makers of South...
	The makers of South Park, like, you know, they were good at finding, they're very good at locating and crossing the line.
	And the reason I think is because their god is comedy.
	Their god is comedy.
	They don't care about anything else.
	I think, I feel like their content around COVID was not good because I feel like they were generally somehow supportive of lockdowns or whatever.
	But everywhere else...
	I think they demonstrate a level of comedic understanding.
	Well, that's how from one five-minute VHS...
	Of a Christmas card that they were passing around.
	They've generated a billion-dollar, 30-season-long franchise.
	And not to mention Book of Mormon and some of their movies they've made.
	That is a powerful comedic relationship.
	And a load of it's there, even in their student film, Cannibal, the movie, about a bunch of gold prospectors going mad, which they made as students, I think.
	It's all there.
	Funny songs.
	Even Matt Stone's even wearing a Kyle-style hat, man.
	I just love those guys.
	Anyway, so when it comes to comedy, Woody Allen, and look at what he's been through, Woody Allen says the only criteria is, is it funny?
	And if it's funny, that's its own thing.
	And one of the things I want to say about our culture has gone so mad now is because even people like...
	If you think of Gary Lineker...
	And Jerry Seinfeld.
	Like, Jerry Seinfeld, one of the best stand-ups of all time.
	Gary Lineker, a sports pundit in the UK, a World Cup hero, and a generally adored guy whose biggest controversy until recently was that he's the face of a potato chip brand called Walker's Crisps.
	Now, he's posted stuff about Israel that he'll get cancelled off the back of this eventually because he's reposted something that had, I think, proper anti-Semitic imagery that came from a pro-Palestine Twitter account.
	And Jerry Seinfeld, on the other side of it, who is pro-Israel, and as I always say, understandably so, because he's a New York Jew, what would his position be, really?
	He's certainly got skin in the game, so to speak.
	I think what is our culture doing is pulling everyone into an endless maelstrom.
	And that's why I think you need someone like Kanye as a star.
	And I don't know what happens to comedy.
	Comedy probably now is the Theo Vons, the Tim Dylons, the people on the Edgelands that are post.
	You know, they're like people in the Matrix that are born inside Zion.
	They don't have the thing in the back of their head.
	You know, so I think they're the only hope, really.
	I know I went on a long journey there, and I sort of ended nowhere.
	Yeah, we've got enough content.
	In the game?
	Oh, yeah.
	That's a joke.
	That's a good joke.
	Oh, I don't know.
	Do you mean in a kind of Auschwitz way?
	No, in, like, circumcision.
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry, mine was...
	I went to the lampshades.
	I'm so sorry.
	That's kind of a good joke.
	No one's ever made.
	No, yeah.
	They all have...
	Yeah, they have...
	Yeah, that's pretty good.
	Circumcision was a...
	You know, it's a big deal.
	It's a good circumcision joke?
	But you Americans, you will do it anyway.
	In Britain, we leave that thing well alone until it's required.
	I had to get it done.
	We're just gutted.
	We're learning a lot about Lassie in this, aren't we?
	We're learning that he's possibly watching Down Syndrome porn.
	He did bring it.
	It makes it even better because of the headrest on his chair.
	I don't know why I just...
	Yeah, because that's like...
	That's a proud boy chair.
	You're like a proud boy incel.
	You're sat there with your dedicated online chair.
	He's got buttons like a little...
	No, that's not what he thinks.
	You called it something else, didn't you, Jay?
	It just looks like it's an automatic chair.
	The universe is expanding.
	My Down Syndrome porn collection is expanding.
	I just love how we've completely...
	We just completely lost it.
	Okay, this has gone too far.
	Massey, thankfully you edit this show, so choose wisely.
	Okay, that's enough of that for now.
	Here's some sensible content discussing Bill Gates and his newly, potentially demonic, lust and thrust for power.
	When's that guy going to give his money away?
	Let's have a look.
	The more money Bill Gates gives away, the richer he gets.
	Is it karma or is it corruption?
	crickets Bill Gates is the billionaire's billionaire.
	The billionaire it's okay to love.
	Maybe not for you.
	You exist in alternative media spaces.
	But in the mainstream, Bill Gates is still regarded as a kind of hero.
	Not by people who have been the apparent beneficiaries of his philanthropy, like the many farmers across Africa who are attempting to sue him as a result of his intervention into African agriculture.
	Or in India, where many people say that Bill Gates' attempts to intervene in Indian agriculture were reckless and hopeless.
	What Bill Gates...
	It's being experienced by farmers now in countries where people are white and speak English because that's how it goes with colonialism.
	First to exploit people in countries that don't have such good media.
	Then you get your peasants.
	Well, sometimes it was vice versa in the old days.
	You oppress the peasants in Lancashire, then you go and get the peasants in Delhi.
	Either way, if you ain't an oligarch, you are getting fucked.
	Now, Bill Gates likes to fuck you from behind.
	I don't know if that's something he learned on Epstein Island.
	I don't know.
	I wasn't there.
	Curiously, though, only one of us is going to court.
	What a crazy world.
	Where are the mainstream media journalists doing long investigations into Bill Gates' relationship with Epstein?
	Where are they?
	Crickets?
	Crickets?
	Let me know in the comments in the chat.
	What makes this story more fascinating and more appalling is that the mainstream media in 2025, after the pandemic, when we learned everything we did about Bill Gates' positions on vaccines, how ineffective his views were, how incorrect he was, the fact that he likely participated in this event where they gamed out the impact of the pandemic a couple of years in advance.
	Even in spite of all this, the legacy media are still willing to provide him with fanfare, trumpets, and let's face it, the Interview equivalent of fellatio every time he steps onto a talk show stage.
	Here he is on Colbert being fellated.
	Even the title of the item tells you exactly how it's going to go.
	Will Bill Gates' $200 billion medical moonshot make up for Doge's cruel foreign aid cuts?
	Hmm, I wonder what the intentions of the narrator are here.
	Doge evil, Bill Gates good.
	Maybe Doge ain't great.
	Let's find out.
	But...
	Let's ensure that we investigate Bill Gates and Doge and everything with the same level of integrity.
	Otherwise, what are we?
	Propagandists.
	Let's look at Colbert's interview with Bill Gates.
	This is going to be fun.
	Welcome back, everybody.
	Ladies and gentlemen.
	Folks, you know my first guest.
	As the businessman and philanthropist who started Microsoft this morning, he announced that he'll be giving away virtually all of his wealth.
	He started Microsoft this morning.
	Actually, he has done quite well.
	Now, this is Bill Gates once again saying he's giving away all his wealth.
	$200 billion he's going to give away.
	But 20 years ago, he said he was going to give away all his wealth, and he's richer than ever.
	Warren Buffett said he was going to give away all of his wealth, and then in the end...
	Proofs of philanthropy.
	He gave all of his wealth to his children.
	Now, guess what?
	That's probably what I would do if I had excessive wealth or if I had any wealth at all.
	My kids are getting it.
	I love those little guys.
	What I won't do is tell you I'm better than you.
	I'm worse than you.
	I'm broken.
	I'm flawed.
	I'm fallible.
	And so is Bill Gates.
	So why is he turning up on late night TV to be given oral satisfaction by a man who's willing to dress up as a vaccine if the situation calls for it?
	Let's get into it.
	Giving away virtually all of his wealth over the next 20 years to the cause of saving and improving lives around the world.
	Please welcome back to The Late Show, Bill Gates.
	Thank you.
	Good to see you again.
	How are you?
	Good to be here.
	Doing all right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	This morning you announced that you'll be giving away nearly all of your money faster than expected.
	Wow.
	Wow!
	Hooray!
	Thank you!
	Thank you for giving away your money faster than expected.
	That's a primed audience.
	That first cheer you hear is the floor manager on The Colbert Show ensuring that everyone else cheers.
	Wow.
	And that is starting off as we mean to go on.
	Creating an environment where your perspective is already decided for you.
	This is someone you cheer for.
	This isn't someone who's participating in the denigration of agriculture in Africa, in India, who during the pandemic told us things that were plainly untrue, that was investing in vaccine technology while simultaneously telling us to take vaccines, which...
	At the moment, are under scrutiny, inquiry, and genuine clinical trial, because it turns out they might not have been as good as everyone told us they were.
	Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.
	By the way, he hadn't done anything yet.
	Like, if I sort of go, hey, guess what, everyone?
	What I'm planning to do is spend the rest of my time giving dogs haircuts, putting ribbons in their hair, making dogs look really sort of quite beautiful, not for any weird reason, just because I really like dogs.
	Woo!
	Have you done it yet?
	No, I didn't get round to it, actually.
	I just carried on doing what I was doing anyway.
	Oh.
	Woo?
	You're a renowned philanthropist.
	You're a renowned philanthropist.
	By whose renown?
	By the people that are granting him that renown.
	We say you're a philanthropist, you're a philanthropist.
	We say that you should take the shot, take the shot.
	We say this is a necessary war, it's a necessary war.
	We tell you what to think and then tell you that you're thinking it because you're thinking it.
	And Neglecta reminds you that you're only thinking it because we told you to think it.
	But why did you make that decision and why now?
	And do you need my routing number?
	Well, it's kind of a special year for me.
	I'll turn 70 later this year.
	Woo, and um, applause?
	No applause.
	Now, this is my position.
	If you are virulently anti-Doge and anti-Elon Musk, you cannot be pro-Bill Gates.
	Because the only way to condemn...
	Elon Musk is from a clear condemnatory position on oligarchal wealth.
	You can't say I like oligarchal wealth here, but I don't like it here.
	That's just hypocrisy.
	The foundation is celebrating its 25th anniversary.
	And so it's a chance to look back and say, wow, we've exceeded our expectations.
	You know, we...
	Took as our biggest cause, saving children's lives.
	And when we got started, it was over 10 million a year.
	Well, you could start by not going to Epstein Island.
	That would save a few.
	Now it's less than 5 million a year.
	And...
	10 million, uh, what?
	Can you be more specific?
	10 million children under 5 died in the year 2000.
	And it's come down every year to now it's below 5 million will die this year.
	Woo!
	Five million children die this year.
	Well done, Bill Gates.
	Thank you for saving the lives of all these children under five.
	Bill Gates there, casually claiming credit for undead children.
	Let's have a look at some of the deaths that took place during the pandemic.
	Let's have a look at some of the adverse events during the pandemic.
	Let's look at who made profits during the pandemic.
	Let's look at the consequences of Bill Gates' misadventures and incursions into African and Indian agriculture.
	Let's have a proper look at Bill Gates.
	No, let's continue to just celebrate Bill Gates and take his word for it that he's out there saving children, like some bizarro version of Jeffrey Epstein, who, by the way, he used to hang out with a lot.
	Hmm.
	So that's five million too many, but we cut it in half.
	And we did that by creating very inexpensive vaccines.
	I don't know how long it'll be before very inexpensive vaccines reared their ugly head.
	Don't you want to dress up as one, Stephen?
	Someone said vaccine!
	Shouldn't we get the old costume on?
	Woohoo!
	Get the shot!
	Get the shot!
	Woo!
	Vaccine!
	And working with others to buy those and get them out to all the world's children.
	You had always said...
	...to the world's children.
	Vaccines has become so hotly politicised that an audience starts cheering the concept of vaccines.
	Not thinking for a moment that if they took the second or third booster shot, they were relying on science and indeed following science that actually was backed by experimentation on like five to eight mouses.
	Not reflecting for a second that adverse injuries, myocarditis, various neurological conditions, turbo cancers have all been on the rise since people took those mRNA shots.
	Not reflecting for a second that gain-of-function research is no longer being funded by the government and that we know that the EcoHealth Alliance and DARPA funded...
	Wow, what it must be to be Bill Gates.
	You get a round of applause on the way in, you get a round of applause on the way out.
	You make a load of money when COVID goes into Wuhan.
	You make money when it comes out of Wuhan.
	You make money when people take the vaccines.
	You make money when people have heart attacks because of the vaccines.
	The whole thing's a glorious carousel.
	You get to go on a late night TV show and be applauded for how generous you are.
	Thanks for the generosity.
	Keep your viruses.
	Keep your advice.
	Keep your billions.
	Just leave us alone.
	You had said, and check my math here, but you'd always said that you were going to give away at least half of your wealth before you died.
	And 99.9% of it in the years after death, wind down the foundation, everything like that.
	Even the concept of giving away your wealth after your death is ridiculous, isn't it?
	To applaud someone for giving away their money after...
	What kind of warped value system are we celebrating?
	You've said that you're going to give away your money after your death.
	After your dead?
	After your dead?
	He's going to be dead!
	He's not some nerd Jesus resurrecting to give us all benefits.
	He's an extremely wealthy person who's found numerous ingenious ways to ensure that his family remains wealthy, to ensure that his brand remains prestigious, never taking responsibility for the extraordinary errors he's made, notably, I'll keep listening, during COVID, in particular around agriculture.
	Why did you accelerate it?
	Because I'm so nice, I just want to help people.
	By the way, how hyped up are that audience for Bill Gates?
	For Bill Gates!
	How are they going to cope if they get someone in there with a little bit of razzmatazz, a bit of charisma, someone who can play a guitar or bang a drum?
	This is Bill Gates just going on there, just telling you fundamentally, I am generous, you should applaud me for accumulating and then giving away a bunch of wealth.
	Anyone who knows anything about the way that plutocracy works would probably have an intuitive understanding that Bill Gates, through Microsoft, likely has contracts and relationships with deep, deep state bureaucracies to ensure that he accumulates wealth because he's being granted access to information way ahead of other people.
	Certainly, that seems to be the case when it comes to George Soros, that other billionaire.
	It's okay for liberals to fawn over.
	At least he has a good grace to stay out of the media most of the time.
	How is it that this is even regarded as entertainment?
	A billionaire telling you how nice he is?
	What's that?
	How is that entertainment?
	What is this culture?
	What are you condemning other people from?
	How can you hate Trump from there?
	You know why we hate Donald Trump?
	Why?
	Is it because you live in a cave and you spend all day helping people and you never do anything except love and serve?
	No, it's because we prefer Bill Gates, who's a type of Trump in knitwear, nerdish and tedious.
	He's not markedly morally different from someone who believes the dominant metric for power is wealth.
	Is he?
	I think these next 20 years, We can do some miraculous things.
	We can finish polio eradication.
	That, with any luck, will be done in the next five years.
	We can get rid of malaria that's killed hundreds of millions of people over the years.
	We can take even HIV, which we won't get to zero, but cut that by over 90%.
	Here's an interesting item for you, Colbert.
	The origins of HIV and the involvement of Anthony Fauci in the early experimentation that likely, possibly, maybe, allegedly led to it.
	And while you're at it, start looking into Lyme disease and the numerous other peculiar viruses that have likely over time leaked from laboratories that were doing experiments not to help people, but to make money down the line.
	All these people care about is money and power and possibly occultist and esoteric things that I don't understand yet.
	Maybe, maybe that.
	But that's actually worse, not better.
	We have a lot of innovations in the pipeline.
	I know there'll be rich people 20 years from now for whatever we don't get done.
	They'll understand the geopolitics or the AI at that time.
	And so...
	This is the establishment.
	The establishment is about perpetuation of the systems.
	Stephen Colbert, Bill Gates, advocating for everything staying the same and nothing changing.
	There's no thy kingdom come in this program.
	He says there'll be rich people then.
	This is the way things are going to stay.
	Do you not, somewhere within you, crave a better world, a different world?
	And do you not recognize that you could participate in its creation?
	And do you not see now more plainly than ever that the institutions of power, whether they are media or financial, exist primarily to ensure that you never, ever challenge their evil dominion?
	You know, I'll have until I'm 90, and then I'll get to retire.
	Just, uh...
	Well, I mean, that's such a noble goal.
	I'm just curious not to put too fine a point on it.
	How much cash are we talking here?
	What have we got to give away at this point?
	Yeah, so for the first 25 years, we gave a bit over $100 billion.
	And for these next 20 years, we'll give over $200 billion.
	Wow.
	What are we cheering?
	What are these concepts?
	What's going on?
	I'm not suggesting that Bill Gates is evil or Stephen Colbert is evil, but they are participants in a system that is evil.
	Thank you.
	You know, given how you've dedicated sort of the second half of your career into these altruistic, especially having to do with vaccines and medicine, it must be a very interesting, if not troubling, time for you when there's so much scientific skepticism, especially around things like vaccines, which certainly didn't start in COVID, but accelerated during COVID.
	As a renowned advocate for global health, what do you make of the fact that the new administration has effectively dissolved USAID, axed more than 80% of the programs and funds, fired thousands of employees, cut the CDC budget by $4 billion, down from $9.2 billion.
	The NIH...
	They've fired 1,300 NIH employees, canceled more than $2 billion in research grants.
	They're going to cancel PEPFAR.
	They've pulled out of WHO.
	And they plan on terminating more than a billion dollars in funding for Gavi.
	Tell the people what Gavi is.
	So Gavi is a group that was founded the year the...
	Foundation got started to buy vaccines for the poorest children in the world.
	One of the things I learned in the 1990s is I was thinking, okay, what do I do with all this Microsoft wealth that was generated, is I learned why kids were dying.
	And I learned that a lot of those kids, over a million, were dying from diarrhea.
	In fact, Nick Christophe wrote an article that I read and sent a note to my dad, hey, let's work on this.
	I found out that rich kids were actually getting a vaccine so that they didn't get the disease, although they weren't really at risk of dying, and nobody had cost-reduced it and gotten money to get that to all the children.
	And so we did the work to get the price down.
	The foundation did itself.
	And then Gavi is an alliance of governments and our foundation that buys those vaccines.
	And so the majority of that reduction has come from getting out those new vaccines.
	What's amazing there is Bill Gates is saying that he wants your tax dollars to continue to fund a foundation that he's telling you is beneficial and positive.
	I suppose that's all well and good as long as you trust Bill Gates and you believe that Bill Gates' agenda is in alignment with your own agenda.
	But what if you think that Bill Gates isn't a philanthropist, that he is in fact an oligarch and that his primary interest is not helping?
	It's accumulating wealth and power and then finding ways to justify continuing to have that wealth and power way beyond even his own death.
	Of course, in 2025, people go, I'm evil, I should keep my wealth and power.
	No!
	What they tell you is, it's good that I have all this wealth and power because I'm going to help all these really, really vulnerable children.
	If you really, really want to help vulnerable children, there's so many ways of doing that.
	Most importantly, there's ways of discreetly, privately...
	Quietly getting on with that without taxing middle-income and low-income families who are actually trying to look after their own children and don't want Bill Gates' reach and influence extending into their pockets via the government and into Garvey.
	And as he listed the various projects there, Stephen Colbert, the Trump administration have pulled out of, those of you that watch alternative media will know that there's numerous outrageous USAID stories and that USAID was fundamentally about propaganda.
	And control USAID, invested in various foreign colleges in my country to ensure that particular media perspectives were undertook during the COVID pandemic.
	In fact, what this entire interview is an attempt to do is to reframe for the mainstream a positive perspective and narrative when it comes to all of their previous endeavours that have been undone.
	...under populist nativism because people don't trust big government, they don't trust neoliberalism, they don't trust the Democrats, they don't trust the media, they don't trust big science.
	And in fact, this interview is a further reason to verify that scepticism and even cynicism because of this.
	Why doesn't Stephen Colbert ask, what do you think about Jay Patacharya, the new head of the NIH?
	Do you think that's a positive thing?
	What do you think about Robert Kennedy generally?
	What do you have to say about these studies that show that vaccine injuries were far higher than we'd first suspected?
	How do you deal with the fact that the inoculation provided by the vaccine was minimal?
	Because there is no attempt to redress even the problems of the pandemic, just an attempt to move forward at a giddying blur, a pace that doesn't allow you to pause and take a breath and to reflect on how badly we were lied to during that pandemic, how the people that stood at the front and centre and told us they knew what they were doing were actually lying, whether that's Fauci or Gates.
	And now we see how this plays out across other stories and other narratives.
	Trust Zelensky, trust NATO, trust the WHO.
	Why should we trust them?
	Far less.
	Why should we fund them?
	We're the second U.S. Government's the third.
	I don't think that there should be a foundation that has the resources to invest that much money.
	I believe, let me know if you agree with this in the comments and chat, that we shouldn't be centralizing our resources at the level of the state or these private organizations so that ultimately beneficiaries of extraordinary wealth are decided by and appointed by Bill Gates, who I don't really trust on anything.
	And the reason I don't trust him is not like intuition or prejudice.
	It's because I've read about the impact of his policies, ideas, And so I hope to convince the Congress, who will decide the budget in time...
	To stay in Gavi, but right now there's a proposal.
	That they zero out that, which is about $300 million a year.
	And one of the odd things about the president's administration is that even though there are things that are already allocated for things like research, is that the president and the people who work for him have said, we're just not going to do it.
	He signs executive orders and says the money's not going to go there, so it doesn't really matter what Congress does.
	So while what you say is hopeful it may not happen, you're a data-driven guy.
	This claims to be a data-driven group of people.
	A lot of tech bros over there in the government these days.
	Not that you're a tech bro.
	You're pre-tech bro.
	You're a code bro.
	I don't know what to call you.
	I've got some suggestions.
	Oligarch, tyrant, living manifestation of all that is dark and evil.
	Old bro.
	Old bro.
	Okay.
	No, okay.
	Old bro.
	Yeah, that's cozy.
	Does it make any sense to you?
	Does the rationale make any sense to you?
	Do you talk to these people?
	You must talk to some of them and say, why are you doing this, guys?
	No, I think, you know, I...
	I've been out in the field with the people who work for USCID and seen the brilliant work they do and how important that is.
	Unfortunately, there was a weekend where it was decided they were criminals and they were put in the wood chipper.
	And so we lost a lot of capacity there.
	If you genuinely think it's wrong to, over the course of a weekend, determine that people are criminals and put them in a woodchipper, wouldn't you extend the same kind of sanguinity and compassion to people that were reluctant to take the vaccines?
	Instead of mounting a campaign to shame them and condemn them, which was immersive and total, funded and supported by Bill Gates and enacted by Stephen Colbert.
	If the principle is compassion, extend the compassion.
	If it's expedience, just admit there's expedience.
	We now are not in power.
	We are going to use this show to attack people currently in power.
	We recognize that our main resources lie now outside of government in figures like Bill Gates, and we'll do everything we can to prop them up.
	Now, we can get it back.
	Eventually, Congress is the one who will have the final word on this.
	And I'm not even sure the administration understands.
	You know, what's going on in the field, because we do have, for the first time in 25 years, we have more children dying.
	Instead of it going down, it's now going up.
	And unless we reverse pretty quickly, that'll be over a million additional deaths.
	And you lay some of this at the feet of Doge and, of course, Elon Musk.
	And I hope I'm getting this even closer.
	You said the picture of the world's richest man being involved in the death of the world's poorest.
	Is not a pretty one.
	That's right.
	Well, that's actually outside even of the realm of irony.
	Again, if you look at the decisions and influence made by either Bill Gates directly or causes and endeavours that he supported when it comes to COVID and India and agriculture in Africa, what you have to have is a supreme sense of denial to participate in this kind of media endeavour.
	For Stephen Goldberg to say, "Wow, I've got Bill Gates in front of me now, I'm going to just ask Bill Gates some important and significant questions rather than feeding him what has been pre-agreed in pre-production." We've got Bill Gates coming on.
	Here are the questions to ask Bill Gates.
	This is what Bill Gates is here to promote.
	Get on and do it.
	And if you want, you can do a few snarky jokes here or there so you can continue to pretend to yourself that you're doing something of cultural.
	Well said.
	Well said.
	Bill Gates attacking Elon Musk.
	For his wealth.
	Is that what it's come to?
	Is that the culture war now?
	This billionaire doesn't like the decisions of that billionaire.
	What are we doing?
	What are the studio audience doing?
	I mean, not that all billionaires know each other, but have you called him to say, what gives, man?
	Don't you know that this is going to be on you, that you have blood on your hands?
	Well, at this point, you know, he's withdrawn.
	From reality?
	Where is he withdrawn from?
	He's headed to Mars.
	People want to control reality.
	They want control of your inner life.
	They want control of your perspective, your perception, your ability to apply attention.
	Claiming that Elon Musk has departed reality for Mars.
	Is a reasonable perspective if you're someone that's really diligent about remaining in the perpetual present and living as best you can.
	Like, you know, if you were a Jainist that wears a mask, not to protect you from COVID, but to protect insects from you, then maybe you could say, yeah, I'm against Elon Musk.
	But if you are Bill Gates, you can't condemn Elon Musk just because you, every 20 years, say you're going to give away all of your wealth and then never actually get around to it.
	So I do, you know, I'm looking forward to getting more time with President Trump.
	I had a couple of meetings with him.
	You said you had a good meeting.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I thought on things like HIV and polio, we wouldn't see the 80% cut.
	So, you know, I'd love to talk to him, Secretary Rubio.
	But then, you know, also all the members of Congress will, you know, get to have their say.
	And historically...
	You know, this was started by President Bush, the increase in aid, the generosity, and it was maintained on a bipartisan basis.
	I know, you know, there probably have to be some cutbacks in the government budget.
	If it was, you know, 15%, I would figure out, work with the government to make sure the impact was pretty modest.
	Campaign to ensure that your tax dollars continue to go towards the Bill Gates Foundation.
	That's essentially what that is.
	And more broadly, Bill Gates maintains colonial and imperial power over the American mind, the American economy and systems of government that are meant to work for you, but that ultimately...
	for a plutocratic class, which Bill Gates is a chieftain within.
	In order to have any kind of respect for legacy media, you'd want to see sensible questions asked in an interview like that.
	And the fact that you didn't see any sensible questions asked, merely sort of soft ball scoops.
	Do you mind if I pull your skin back?
	Do you mind if I tickle your balls?
	Those were the only questions Colbert was, in essence, asking Bill Gates.
	And...
	I don't know, man, but I would guess, based on some of his friendships, that Bill Gates loves stuff like that.
	What he doesn't love doing is being accountable for his agricultural interventions in Africa.
	India, and the many, many areas that took place during the pandemic, excuse me, pandemic, which he seemed to know was coming, and appears to have profited from significantly.
	This is a man who every couple of decades says, I'm going to give away all my wealth, and then 20 years later, you check out his finances, and he's richer than ever.
	So, can you trust him?
	It would appear not.
	But that's just what I think.
	Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
	Thank you for using Fox News.
	The news.
	Now, here's the fucking news.
	Alright, let's take a break from this mindless puerility and enter into the warm embrace of Christianity.
	Is it possible that Joe Rogan, the world's most significant broadcaster, has found our Lord and Saviour?
	have a look Rejoice, for he has risen!
	What, Jesus?
	No, Joe Rogan, actually.
	If you are a Christian, you'll be fascinated and excited to see Joe Rogan's new ruminations on the origins of the universe and on Christ specifically.
	If you're not a Christian, you might be wondering, where am I going to draw power, inspiration and resources from in this deteriorating world?
	You might be fascinated to see the various new fractures and fragmentations appearing in the post-Trump era, whether that's in political spaces, there's a Maha civil war, or in media spaces increasingly divided over issues like Israel, Iraq, Iran, war generally.
	So, where is it that we're going to look for redemption, peace, and salvation?
	I would say, where we've always looked, to God, not to man.
	Let's get into it.
	Well, space is the ultimate, who the fuck knows, because we can only see so far.
	We see so far.
	But even so far is only so far.
	Well, and then they're saying it's always expanding.
	That can't be true, because what is it expanding into?
	If space is space...
	You know, if they're like, oh, it's like blowing up a balloon where everything's...
	Okay, well, you're blowing up a balloon in a room.
	Right.
	So what's the room that you're blowing the balloon into?
	And then that's in a bigger room, and then that's in this.
	Right.
	20 seconds in, and we realize that the problem is that with the mind of man, you cannot understand the cosmos.
	You cannot understand the unknowable.
	You cannot understand the process by which reality came into being.
	So I suppose we need some higher authority, some reference point.
	We can't hear amongst one another...
	Tribally bicker about who has supreme authority.
	Or we can.
	In fact, we do.
	That's exactly what's happening.
	And we are in a process of infinite regress, where ultimately we're going to end up in single-person cubicles quarrelling with our own minds, uncertain as to what to believe in and indeed what to do.
	Joe Rogan's show, in a sense, has created a different category of conversation.
	Blue-collar philosophy, working-class poetry, all things which are admirable.
	What's fascinating about this conversation is kind of stoner chit-chat about the impossibility of an expanding universe expanding into nothingness unless you embrace the paradox of not knowing anything and yet being supremely endowed that all of reality could be taking place within our consciousness and yet we're infinitesimally small and meaningless unless you can somehow hold together those peculiar contradictions which I frankly can't.
	I have to just surrender.
	It seems that where we're moving now increasingly where Joe Rogan appears to be moving is into a territory In which it's acknowledged that we need supreme authority.
	And then there's the concept that it's actually finite.
	It's not infinite.
	It's some sort of donut shape.
	It goes back around eventually.
	But then who made all that?
	Is there a God?
	Did God make this?
	Or is God the universe?
	Yeah, but then who made God?
	And then that bothers me.
	Right, but who made that thing?
	Is that a thing that we think, that like, because we were born and we die, that we have these biological limitations that we attach to the universe itself?
	That's fair.
	Yeah, that we see things as being built and destroyed.
	That there's always been something.
	Wouldn't it be crazy if there wasn't something at one point in time?
	That seems even crazier.
	Then there always has been something.
	Because if it's just the nature of everything, there is always something, right?
	It couldn't be nothing, and then all of a sudden, everything.
	That seems...
	Because what started that?
	What kicked that off?
	Exactly.
	What snapped its fingers?
	That's McKenna's great line.
	Terrence McKenna had a great line about the difference between science and religion is that science only asks you for one miracle.
	I want you to believe in one miracle.
	The Big Bang.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's a good one.
	It's a great line.
	Because it really is true.
	And it's funny because people would be incredulous about the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but yet they're convinced that the entire universe was smaller than the head of a pen, and for no reason than anybody's adequately explained to me.
	Makes sense.
	It instantaneously became everything?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	I can't buy that.
	I'm sticking with Jesus on that one.
	Jesus makes more sense.
	Jesus does make more sense as soon as you embrace the impossibility of a thorough understanding because of the limitations we experience and also the subjective nightmare of being in control of your own life and the inevitability of failure within those restrictions and limits.
	This conversation takes place as a new pope is enthroned, canonised, elected.
	The challenge is, of course, that people use divine authority to bolster and embolden human authority.
	That's when we start getting into serious trouble.
	We have a new pope in the Vatican, and here is some video of him speaking on the subject of immigration.
	Both the first reading and the Gospel make very clear a message which Pope Francis has been hammering home time and again since his very first trip as Pope when he went to This little community, an island in southern Italy, the town of Lampedusa, where all these immigrants continue to come.
	It's a huge problem, and it's a problem worldwide, not only in this country.
	There's got to be a way both to solve the problem, but also to treat people with respect.
	Every one of us, whether we were born in the United States of America or on the North Pole, We all are given that gift of being created, the image and likeness of God.
	And the day we forget that is the day we forget who we are.
	We forget who Christ has called us to be.
	I suppose that's the aspect of spirituality that I'm most drawn to, the idea that we can transcend our limitations as human beings and share in the limitless grace and love of Christ.
	Whether it's homelessness in California or mass migration, we can always find within ourselves more love, more compassion, more grace.
	And however much compassion, kindness or grace we may think we're affording others is nothing compared to what we've been given.
	And we live in a time where people are at war.
	What we're experiencing now is frequently referred to as a culture war.
	And what a culture war is, if you ask me, Is an attempt to control a narrative.
	And an attempt to control a narrative means manipulate attention, consciousness, perception and understanding.
	And whether you orient or skew towards the left or the right or individualism or collectivism, socialism, free market capitalism.
	In the end, you might find, like Joe Rogan and his guests there, that there's a limit to how much we can understand the best minds in science using the finest instruments that can be contrived.
	Buttress against Terence McKenna is brilliantly described.
	The Big Bang Theory asks, give us one free miracle and we'll explain the rest.
	Or how many questions are left unanswered when it comes to the mysteries of our hearts and souls and the despair that many of us frequently feel, our longing for comfort.
	Our understanding that we need to be redeemed.
	None of these questions can be answered through tribalism.
	They can only be answered through a deep, deep surrender to powerful spiritual forces.
	And I feel like we are reaching a singularity, not a singularity where technology is able to answer all of our problems, but precisely the opposite.
	We have begun to recognize the limits of technology.
	Tools in the hands of man can take us only so far, and we need salvation.
	From the great toolmaker.
	And I'm not talking about Keir Starmer's dad.
	He's a toolmaker.
	Look it up.
	He used to mention it a lot when campaigning.
	I'm talking about the creator of all reality.
	That's just what I think.
	Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
	Thank you for choosing Fox News.
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	We will be back next week, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.
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