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May 14, 2025 - Stay Free - Russel Brand
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Trump Thanks Saudi Prince for the Camels – Ends Speech with YMCA! – SF583
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Hello, you Awakening Wonders.
Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
Sorry, I'm a bit late.
Do you remember when it used to be a lot later all of the time?
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Russell, how's it going, you crazy wanker?
It's going beautifully well, and as you surely know, because I mention it every other show, I do not masturbate.
I believe it to be, well, I don't believe it to be anything.
It's a sin, pure and simple, and it's no good for me.
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Today, we've got a fantastic show.
We're going to talk a lot about the shifting sands and power dynamics of the Middle East subsequent to Trump's visit.
What does it mean when easy alliances are formed in contentious territories?
I remember Biden being very happy to do arms deals and trade with the Saudis, but nothing quite like this.
This spectacular event somewhat reminiscent of the recent...
Reclamation, or not reclamation, colonisation of sport by the wealthy nations in that region.
Like, I'm English, so important football teams are owned in Europe by Abu Dhabi and Qatar, Paris Saint-Germain and Man City, namely.
And I can see a very different type of politics and dynamic emerging from these countries.
Popular leftist critiques of 2030.
40 years ago, I'm talking about Edward Said, said that we imposed a perspective on the East.
He called the book Orientalism, where we, the West, subject other countries to our purview.
And in extremists, that plays out in war.
Like, we've got to bring democracy to Iraq!
Like, that is like, hold on a minute, who's asking for democracy in Iraq?
Who's giving you that job?
Who's given you that job?
And I think now we're going to see new relationships almost, in a way, one of the things that someone that works here actually said, Massey, said, like, who cuts the content, is almost like, it's almost like a kind of...
Goudiness and taste, reverent.
Like, how often does Trump go to a place where there's more grandeur, more columns, pillars and wealth?
Likely great longevity machines, I imagine, that Arabian royalty have.
I bet they've got good red light systems.
I bet they've got good IVs.
Do you think Saudi Arabia is trustworthy?
Do they love America?
I don't know about whether they love America, but when you see YMCA...
Playing before the Saudi crown prince.
You have to acknowledge that we're in a very unusual time now.
Russell, please have some respect.
What for?
I just see things out of the corner of my eye.
What do you mean by that?
I do have some respect.
I respect God.
I respect your individual sovereignty.
I respect your right for free speech.
But I also got to respect the comedy.
Let's have a silly old time here together.
Well, I mean, if you're calling upon respect, how do you cope with the idea that in Thailand...
Ye's new song, N-word Heil Hitler, is evidently a hit.
And why would, I suppose, people in Thailand even have an appreciation of our assumed understanding of the last century?
Thailand has its own purview and its own perspective.
Thailand was not subject to that war and those...
Holocaust.
In that region, they had their own.
Anyone familiar with the killing fields will know that.
Let's have a look at people getting down to Ye Song.
And let's talk about the broader morality.
We had a post go pretty viral on X, and there's a lot of conversation about it.
I wouldn't say N-word, but I would say Heil Hitler.
But when I say Heil Hitler, I'm not saying it to Hitler or to the principles of national socialism, and in particular, genocide.
Let's have a look.
That lady is C. Kyling, but I suppose what she's...
I wouldn't see that as necessarily allegiance to the National Socialist Party of 1930s Germany.
What this actually is, is late post-modernity, where all cultural artefacts are being spilled into one cultural space and a new sense is being made of it.
Wasn't hip-hop so exciting?
This is a question for all of you, at its origin, because existing...
Music was repurposed in order to create new pieces of art.
Riffs and beats and licks were recreated and repurposed to create new music.
And isn't it sort of obvious that in the end that would start including this kind of stuff?
Have you ever listened to the music of Charles Manson?
Have you ever listened to, like, his sort of very gentle, folky, country, acoustic guitar sets?
I thought, man, this guy is...
Really being at the centre of a lot of darkness.
Also, potential CIA asset.
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Here's a sort of very good AI of Keir Starmer breaking his silence on that cocaine.
I would like to address the rumours of a certain meeting where a bag of cocaine was found before Emmanuel Macron, the Prime Minister of France, hid it in his pocket.
Yes, we all did cocaine that day.
And yes, we had a naked dance-off afterwards.
This is how we do it in Europe.
We like to sniff a little bit of cocaine and then we just...
We just get naked and dance and rub up against each other and shit like that.
That's the light side of AI, how long before that technology is used to incriminate people.
God, I suppose the truth is these days you don't know whether evidence is legitimate.
And real.
But there must be ways at this point of still testing the veracity.
Like, people that know a lot about AI would just look at that straight away and go, oh, these lips aren't moving right.
But as the march of technology continues, as new relationships emerge across the world, later on we'll talk about Saudi Arabia's new relationship with America.
It's a pretty good relationship vis-a-vis oil and weaponry.
But we'll talk about how the relationship is shifting, as well as talking about Keir Starmer's new position on migration.
And the various positions he's previously taken.
Let's have a look now, though, at a potential new army of AI robots who, at the moment, are content to jive and dance.
It's, I guess, amusing, if a little uncanny.
But how long before, you know, Skynet?
I mean, is that really what we've got to worry about?
Is there going to be a point where we're going to stop?
Stop worrying about one another and recognise the AI threat or the demonic threat.
Colorado watch.
I bet Russell has snorted pounds of nose candy.
I did take quite a lot of cocaine.
I never ever really enjoyed it at all.
I don't know why I kept doing it.
addictive as well.
Outro Music.
The end is nigh.
Dancing.
Likely precedes war.
There's an old adage, never teach a man to fight until he knows how to dance.
And here they are, the robots, dancing.
How long before they are fighting?
We saw all the cute stories of the police dogs or robo-dogs in New York City.
I always saw that as part of a process of normalising the technology.
And now there's this kind of attempt to make it seem whimsical.
Humorous, but whether they're coming out of Boston Dynamics or Elon Musk...
Based on the trajectory of technology thus far, I'm not faithful that increasing technology will lead to increasing ease.
The tendency appears to be increasing technology leads to some benefits for a generalized population across Western nations and elites elsewhere, but generally advances the interests of institutions of power and their ability to dominate and control.
Align that, if you will, with the more alarming fact that a crisis for you and me is an opportunity for, inverted commas, them, by them I mean these sets of institutions, commercial and state, that are able to benefit from, ultimately, from a 9-11 or from a COVID pandemic or from emergent wars, wherever they flare up in the world.
And then you start to recognise that the tendency...
Is towards tyranny.
That's the way that it's heading.
And the armoury of the powerful is increasing while we ourselves are becoming more fractured and divided.
Last night I've got to tell you, I was lying in bed and thinking about how difficult, how irritated I'd felt that I'd had to go and get like a washcloth for my little kid.
She wanted one.
Like with a cold washcloth.
And I was like, oh, God, I'm going to have to go to the laundry cupboard and get a flannel, we call it in the UK, then make it wet.
It was bedtime, you know, she had a headache.
Then I'm going to put that on her head.
I thought, man, like, you know, obviously I did it.
Obviously I did it.
I just noted that there was some resistance.
Like, wow, man, this is just like looking after your own child and still kind of in self.
How can you criticise Bill Gates?
For all we know, Bill Gates really does want to cure malaria.
I just had this moment of thinking, well, what if Bill Gates really does want to help us with polio and malaria and all of those diseases that he lists, you know?
He must sort of like, you know, if he ever catches on his social media feed, he's going, Bill Gates, that evil, mad, despotic, oligarchal tyrant, how it works is they have relationships with governments, they're forewarned of a crisis, whether it's medical or military, and they're able to change or trade stocks in accordance in the same way that Pelosi escalates like one of those indoor fireworks snakes.
She comes out of the ashes and coils, spirals, heaven would.
After profit like a green cobra?
After the green cobra?
How must Bill Gates feel when he sees that, if he is actually just trying his best?
And he probably is trying his best, isn't he?
He probably is trying their best.
Shall we, in good faith, assume that George Soros, Bill Gates, Nancy Pelosi, the other side of the argument, Trump, Elon Musk, Hegseth, that everyone's trying their best and failing?
And flawed and broken to some degree.
Do you believe that?
Do you believe in good and evil?
I believe in good and evil.
And do you imagine that good and evil occupies, assaults and isn't says, to some degree, all of us, that the line between good and evil runs not between nations, religions or creeds, but through every human heart.
And that evil, the truly Luciferian force, would be able to sort of drift in its planned and organised way through various vessels and vassals, like the agents in the Matrix, one minute occupying me, one minute occupying you.
What do you think about that, guys?
Do you believe, like I do, that we're trying to return to the state of innocence?
Not everyone is going along with this.
Like NMNGC MGC says, no Russell, they want to kill us.
Probably with their highly advanced robots.
But we're witnessing a kind of collapsing of categories in so many ways.
Experts in neurology have...
Podcasts on politics.
Experts in psychology have podcasts in wellness.
Former stand-up comedians espouse on politics and Christianity.
The categories are collapsing.
And Donald Trump, President of the United States, is now doing stand-up, which I'm formed is pretty good.
Don't call me Mr. President.
I have friends that for 35 years, hey Don, how you doing?
Hey Donnie, I love you Donnie.
Now they call Mr. President Sir.
How are you?
I have a friend, very rich guy, Richard Lefrak in New York.
Builder, good builder.
He calls me all my life.
Hey, Don, how you doing?
I've known this guy so long.
From kindergarten.
I get a call the other day.
Mr. President, how are you, sir?
How are you?
I say, Richard, lighten up.
Lighten up.
Call me Donald.
That's good.
Because I was wondering, as a comic, where's this going?
Is Trump's message here fundamentally that he is so appointed and anointed by earthly power that even the friendships of his youth are rendered, if not redundant, radically altered by his new position?
Consider Joseph's dreams.
I see myself.
You lot, my brothers, you're all in a terrible state.
Me, I'm proud and pompous.
But before that, Joseph has to experience the pit.
Trump's experienced some pits, right, in his time.
It's probably a pit to have to go to court after court, accused after thing after thing.
He's been bankrupt all those times.
People use that against him.
But I like a fighter, don't you?
I like someone that's been down and come back because that's life, man.
That's life for all of us.
What I feel like, though, is as a comic, that's a good out.
Lighten up!
Lighten up!
It's sort of nice.
It's a good...
Pressure release.
A lot of comedy.
What's good comedians that you admire yourself for is Robin Williams, Chappelle, Gillis, whoever.
There's a slow build of tension and then the release of the tension.
And with the best comedians, it's a total surprise.
And I was pretty surprised by that lighting up.
I don't reckon he's written that, has he?
He's intuitive in that.
I'm feeling his way through it.
Can we go back, like, five seconds, Isaac?
Would it be easier for me to ask you to pull out your big toe now, to get your big toe now, and, like, get it with pliers?
Not very back to the beginning, to go back ten seconds.
I've stopped it.
Now if I press play I'll be back 10 seconds.
So long from kindergarten.
I got a call the other day.
Mr. President.
How are you, sir?
How are you?
I said, Richard, lighten up.
Lighten up.
Call me Donald.
Richard, call me Donald.
You've known me for...
I don't want to say because I don't want my wife to hear the number.
Richard came up.
That's good, man.
That's good.
Even that, that's good comic instincts.
I've always thought that Trump was accidentally funny.
I know really brilliant comics.
Theo Vaughn's one.
I don't know Theo Vaughn.
I'm saying that he has this quality of...
A lot of the time, he's not even trying to be funny.
It's an accident.
It's an accident.
Paul Foote, if you know English comedy, is a really good example of that.
I thought, oh, what Trump is, is he's just being himself and his self is funny.
But that's deliberate, like saying, I don't want my wife to hear that.
That's a trope, isn't it?
Like he's an older man with a younger wife.
It's pretty good.
He said, I've known your husband for 65 years.
I said, don't say that.
I said, say 25 years.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
25, 30!
Don't say 65 years!
Call me Don.
Okay.
Okay, Don.
Okay.
He gets his breath.
Two minutes later, Mr. President.
You know, like, when Larry David did that actually very funny...
My dinner with Adolf piece as a response and riposte to Bill Maher meeting with Trump where he, in a sense, attacked the idea that Bill Maher found Trump personable and made the point through this very funny essay that probably Hitler was personable.
And you feel like, oh yeah, I wonder what Hitler was like.
Maybe he was personable.
And there's footage of Hitler and all that kind of stuff.
And it's weird, isn't it, because we're talking about Hitler again because we're asking.
When Kanye produced a song that says N-word, Heil Hitler, what is he...
He's almost just sort of like...
That's the equivalent of a raspberry in a kindergarten.
It's just he's saying an unsayable thing and we now have to sort of contend with it.
He's an artist, not a politician, obviously.
So now with Trump, when you see Trump being that affable and personable...
I almost refuse to believe that he can be the person that the left long claimed that he is.
Like malevolent, malign.
I read pretty good stuff right on Substack from people still on the left.
I still subscribe to the people that I've subscribed to for a long time and I try not to get siloed off.
Like I try not to become...
I can never be Charlie Kirk or Dan Bongino or Ben Shapiro.
These people are devoted, devout, American, Republican, in the case of two, Christian, in the case of the other, obviously, Jewish, devout and serious people when it comes to that subject.
I'm devout and serious as well.
But I'm not devout to any political party.
You know that about me.
I'm not like, the Republican Party, Trump!
That's not how I see reality.
I deserve that kind of devotion.
Even for myself and God.
Those are the two things I'm that obsessed with.
Me, God, that's it.
And all through my life, you know, heroin, crack, sex, you know, I've gone through the sort of roster of things you can get addicted to.
I don't find other people in an iconic way as fascinating as that.
I've had heroes, gosh, Frank McAvenny, West Ham Ford when I was a kid, Paolo Di Canio, West Ham Ford when I was a bit older, Marlon Brando when I got into acting.
But, like, I don't...
Get into that reverence.
I've got mentors and elders that I care about, but I don't feel like some person's going to solve it for me.
And when I do, I can see that kind of an icky weakness.
When I go like, oh God, you're expecting that person to save you.
That's weak, man.
That's weak.
You know?
Russell, you forgot to mention your kids and your wife.
They kind of exist in another reality for me.
Like, when I'm in this reality, like, I even mentioned that story about putting the flannel on my kid's head and stuff.
I'm like, oh, God, do I want to bring them into the...
You know what I mean?
I'm watching these chats, guys.
I'm on the internet.
Do I really want to bring my little babies into the world where people are going, N-word, F-word, queer, fag?
I'm like, whoa, man.
You know, I respect your free speech.
I know it's not everybody.
But, yeah, my love of my...
Like any sane, sensible person, my love of my wife and my children is...
Real and serious and exhausting and taxing and difficult and painful and beautiful and glorious and fraught with concern and joy.
Chuck it into this little machine of people that are distracted from reality.
I love you.
I know so many of you are really doing your best to awaken and be in the glory and the light as a flawed person, just the same as me.
But there are some people, you see it on the internet, all everyone's doing.
Is catharsizing and chomping through the soon-to-be turds of their psychoses.
I hate this person.
I hate that person.
You don't know nothing, man.
There's no time for hate.
There's no room for hate.
There's no time for it.
Martin Luther King, you can't hate your way out of this.
You can't fight the darkness with darkness.
Only love and light can do that.
That's where we've got to get to, man.
We've got to get to that.
I like the trolls.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
I know what you mean.
I know what you mean.
I kind of like it.
Sometimes I find it amusing.
Anyway, so look, what I will say about Trump is when you see him like that, I think that's someone who's so...
He cannot be what the people say.
Do you know there's this analysis of Trump?
He's an evil psychopath and the whole MAGA movement, they're tied up with dark, subliminal things.
It's like dark, excuse me, deep state, globalist, imperial, like, and I just, when I see that, I think, nah.
25, 30!
Don't say 65 years!
Call me Don!
Okay, okay, Don.
Okay.
He gets his breath, uh-huh.
Two minutes later, Mr. President.
Very funny.
It's good comedy.
It's good comedy.
And again, by the way, we're entering into a time where you've probably got to be able to analyse things from a variety of perspectives, whether it's the music of Kanye West or the political policies or political rhetoric or oratory of Donald Trump.
Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.
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Okay, guys, so listen, let's have a look at Trump's...
Thank you so much, beloved Jake.
Let's have a look at Trump's visit to Saudi Arabia and what it might imply for relationships between the United States of America and the region of the Middle East.
I suppose there's so many things to consider before we leap face first into this.
One, we see the Arabian world...
As a place of power, of religious and energetic, don't we?
That's where the oil is and that's where the Abrahamic faiths began and where those journeys...
Primarily played out, whether you're a Muslim, a Jew or a Christian, the centre of the world is in that region.
Isn't it curious that that's where the energy comes from?
That's the place where you have to go deep, deep under the ground to get the fuel.
You have to enter into the darkness to create the light, and therefore explored beautifully by Melville in Moby Dick.
In order to light your homes, you need to delve into the deep and kill the beast.
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Elsewise, you fall continually to a culture that wants What do we learn when Trump attends an event in Saudi Arabia when he tours the Middle East but doesn't visit Israel?
That's a significant moment.
Also, we've seen Trump speaking about Gaza in a way that's somewhat distinct and novel.
Let's explore these ideas together as we talk about Trump's Middle Eastern visit.
But I just want to thank you for everything and maybe in particular our friendship.
It's been a very loyal, great, beautiful friendship.
And the job you've done is second to none.
You look at this, it's so beautiful.
As a construction person, I'm saying perfect marble.
This is what they call perfecto.
And just a great job you've done.
And what a beautiful place.
And we appreciate those camels.
I haven't seen camels like that in a long time.
And that was some greeting.
We appreciate it very much.
Thank you very much.
You can have a lot of fun.
Thank you, sir.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Maybe it's just a different timbre of propaganda.
Maybe it's just another one of those Middle Eastern visits.
Maybe it's all simply about trade.
Certainly there are some distinct and visually...
Stimulating moments to be found.
Let's have a look.
Trump talking about Western intervention.
Check this.
This is interesting.
And it's crucial for the wider world to note this great transformation has not come from Western interventionalists or...
Flying people in beautiful planes giving you lectures on how to live and how to govern your own affairs.
No, the gleaming marvels of Riyadh and Abu Dhabi were not created by the so-called nation-builders, neocons, or liberal non-profits like those who spent trillions and trillions of dollars failing to develop.
Cabal.
The people of the region themselves, the people that are right here, the people that have lived here all their lives, developing your own sovereign countries, pursuing your own unique visions and charting your own destinies in your own way.
It's really incredible what you've done.
In the end, the so-called nation builders...
Wrecked far more nations than they built and the interventionalists were intervening in complex societies that they did not even understand themselves.
They told you how to do it but they had no idea how to do it themselves.
Peace, prosperity and progress ultimately came not from a radical rejection of your heritage but rather from embracing your national traditions and embracing that same heritage that you love.
So dearly.
That was a very interesting and expertly delivered speech.
Elon Musk needs to work on his hand clapping, doesn't he?
That applause was a little light.
What's extraordinary, just visually, is that wherever he is in the world, these speeches end...
With a now familiar new anthem.
When Gaza came up and I said, you know, we've got to be good to Gaza.
Excuse me, that's not it.
The new anthem is, of course, this.
You have a tremendous future.
Thank you very much.
And please pay my respects to your father.
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Okay, so let me know what you think about this, in particular, I suppose, about whether or not Saudi Arabia has to remain the pariah that Joe Biden said that it would be.
Let me know what you think about Qatari influence exerted in the form of an aeroplane.
Let me know what you consider to be the difference between Arabian political influence and Israeli.
And whether you consider Israel to have a unique status, either for good or for ill, and how you consider in particular these...
I mean, is this the beginning of a new tone of conversation?
I've never heard Trump say anything like this before.
Have a listen.
Trump addresses the issue of Gaza in a...
I don't know.
I feel like it was like a more sensitive tone.
Let me know what you think.
Gaza came up and I said, you know, we've got to be good to Gaza.
Those people are suffering.
We've got to be good to Gaza.
We're going to take care of that.
There's a very big need for medicine, food and medicine, and we're taking care of it.
In terms of opening up more access points or pushing Israelis?
To open up our access points?
To get food and medicine into Gaza.
How did the Prime Minister respond to that?
Well, he felt well about it.
Fascinating.
You know when Donald Trump recently stood trial, isn't that amazing?
It's probably only about six months ago.
When Trump stood trial, I think it was the sex offences.
They got a jury together.
Tell me in the comments and chat.
Was it the sex offences or was it the financial stuff?
They selected a jury.
A jury.
A jury.
Ah!
Jesus Christ, what was it they selected?
A jury.
They selected a jury.
And part of the point of a jury is they have to be objective.
Now, is that like a sort of...
How is that even possible with Donald Trump?
Is there anyone who's neutral on the subject of Donald Trump?
I suppose there probably are people that are not at all engaged by politics, either because of nihilism, poverty, despair, or spiritual transcendence, is what I would say.
Otherwise, look at this chat.
Everyone, I love him, he's a genius.
Yeah, shitfuck 11. Shitfuck 11, man.
Or, you know, he's disgusting, he's loathsome, he's the new Hitler.
So how could they have an objective jury when it came to Trump?
And because the coverage of him is either hagiographic or totally condemnatory, how can any of us be objective except unless we just watch him directly on camera, which, by the way, is possible nowadays because he creates that kind of content.
He does long truth social posts.
He does videos where you can sort of look at him.
And based on that...
I'd have to say, he seems like a person that I would trust way beyond how much I trust Barack Obama or Bill Clinton or George W. Bush or any number of people in an office that's...
You know how people that are anti-guns say, when those right to bear arms, when that amendment was made to your constitution...
People had, like, muskets.
And, like, had people had access to semi-automatic weaponry and all of the sort of advanced weaponry that's available now, they likely, people tried to sort of retro-engineer.
They said they would have had a different constitution.
Well, take this.
The office of the president is a kind of weapon.
When these systems of government were devised, mass media was not the way that it is now.
Technology was not the way that it is now.
Can anybody be expected to be like a kind of contemporary George Washington, a patriarch and figurehead for an entire nation?
And American politics was so different there, and a bit of a relationship with France in order to fund the war against the British, a bit of a relationship with the British in order to, as best as possible, create...
Convivial conditions after your victory in the War of Independence.
America didn't go like, we better watch out for China or Russia.
That just didn't exist, did it?
Those kind of dynamics, did it?
I'm not being naive, am I?
The way that free market capitalism and communism were political responses to industrialization, we need political systems that are a reflection of freedom.
The technology that we have now.
Do you see what I mean?
It's like these models and systems are not appropriate for the age we live in.
We have a God that is the same today, tomorrow and always.
In Jesus Christ.
He's not altering.
He's the same 2,000 years ago.
He's the same in the Garden of Eden.
He's the same in triune majesty and mystery before the advent of the world, which Joe Rogan recently reflected is as implausible from an astrophysical perspective as from a theological one, i.e.
what the whole thing just emerged from a molecule in a moment.
So we need some sort of sense of permanence, and our political systems and systems of organisation, if they're not a reflection of the divine, the archetypal, sublime truths that do not bear the hues, scars...
Colors, liveries and tags of tribalism.
If all we have in law and in government is this is my tribe, whether that tribe is the cultural wars of the United States of America or the very real potential wars between China and America, Russia and America, if all it is is that, some sort of amplification of tribalism, then we are not in alignment with where we all be now.
There is a requirement for a mass awakening.
Would you agree with that?
Look back in all your videos, Russell.
They're nearly all true now.
What do you mean?
What do you mean, angry wee jobby?
Tell me what you mean.
Send post one in the chat, because there's nothing I like more than being proven right over time.
In a sense, what I'm saying is that you can't have centralised government at this scale these days.
The true resistance, the true battle is between decentralisation...
And centralization.
Forget about whether or not that centralization is sort of state-oriented through socialism and leftism or free market-oriented through republicanism and capitalism.
It actually needs to shift to a spiritual perspective.
It actually needs to shift to all of us are centralized in our devotion to these ideas and principles.
All of us.
And that's the in-group versus the out-group, if you're going to have to have that kind of dynamic, which I suppose you're going to have to because the binary is real in terms of good versus evil, light versus dark, male, woman.
There are such categories, and these categories are, I suppose, now being somewhat begrudgingly acknowledged.
But what we, I believe, have to do, and forgive the clumsiness of this, I'm just working it out while I'm saying it, is do you try to imagine the world before Uber?
Remember how you had to get a taxi cab.
You had to sort of know how to get a taxi cab in the region you were in.
Now, if you've got Uber on your phone or ride or whatever, then you're hooked up.
There is a centralisation that is potentially diffuse.
It isn't diffuse because the profits are being centralised and most of these companies are offshore, certainly when it comes to my country, the UK, and they're destroying native labour in London in the form of the iconic Black London Taxi Cab Service, which should be defended and protected.
Airbnb does the same thing.
Imagine trying to rent out a room prior to Airbnb, but look at how they conglomerate, how large and bold they quickly become.
Isn't it clear to you that the technology that's used for Uber and Airbnb could be deployed to create absolute democracy?
That you could be running your community, your region.
Then you wouldn't have to worry about whether someone over there is a lesbian or not, or someone over here is a Muslim or not.
You would be personally invested in your community, where wherever possible, food was grown and reared, craft was constructed.
We were able to regulate independently and locally whether or not we wanted all 18-wheelers to go AI, or whether we wanted all...
Uber cars to suddenly become AI, or whether we wanted an influx of robots, or an influx of migrants.
All of it could be locally determined.
I'm not suggesting the end of the nation-state.
I'm suggesting diminishing the power of the nation-state, because the office of the president, like the evolution of the handgun, has gone beyond the laws that were intended for it.
And by the way, before you start, because I know how serious you are about your guns.
There's guns all over this room that I'm in right now, and everyone in this room is carrying one.
I'm not saying you don't have a right to have guns.
That's not my point.
My point is I agree that you need to be armed against the government.
The government are your enemy, for sure.
For sure, baby.
But what I also believe is that we should...
Be mindful of the lethal threats of armaments and armoury.
Let me know what you think about that in the comments.
And chat, if you're watching us on X, we're going to leave you now and we're going to cover Keir Starmer and his gerrymandering, flip-flopping, prevaricating and disseminating.
Keir Starmer, the leader of the United Kingdom, changes his mind more often than he changes his underpants.
and he has to change them pretty regularly because it looks like he might be doing cocaine on the cocaine train, which any of you with any experience with the naughty white powder will know is a serious diuretic.
If you're doing a serious rail and then trust yourself to fart, My word, you may get what I call the brown payback.
A little alarm bell ringing at the back of a scrotum that lets you know you have made one holy error.
Now, I'm 22 and a half years free.
And clean from all drugs, thanks to the grace of God and the 12-step programs that I diligently practice.
And also, by the way, Keir Starmer, for all we know, that was AI, and I'm not suggesting that Keir Starmer takes cocaine or any of those things.
I'm just trying to have a little bit of fun.
What I will tell you, though, is this dude, man, when he was asked about, like, whether or not, what's a woman?
A woman, like six months ago, a woman, anyone who says that they're a woman is a woman.
Well, come on then, Keir, what do you mean by that?
You know, this dude struggles to commit to an opinion.
Whether it's matters of political consequence, like what's your perspective on this war?
What's your perspective on this tax?
Should old people have to pay these fuel bills?
What do you think about migration?
He changes all the time.
Now, people are seeing it as very significant.
He's changed his position on migration in the UK with a speech that we covered yesterday where he said, we've become a nation of strangers, an island of strangers.
This is extraordinary rhetoric, contrasted even with what he said around the time that the Southport Free Little Girls were murdered by a first-generation migrant where he said that the people that were protesting were racist and far-right and they would be brought to justice.
He's...
A really interesting, protean and amorphous politician.
Not in a good way.
He's one, I believe, of that class of politicians that simply say whatever they need to say in order to succeed.
Now, you might have noticed that in your own life.
Hold on, what about you, Russell?
Weren't you like a communist?
Actually, no.
I'm not a communist.
Why?
Because I've always believed in God.
And Marxism and communism posit that there is no God.
There's only a material reality and we're just responding to mechanical facts.
That's all that exists for us.
I believe in God above all else.
I always have done.
You take LSD when you're 16. There's no coming back.
Once you've been hit by that, once you've had yourself sort of molecularly fade like a waterfall in front of your own mind and you realise that you're a construct, there's no way back.
You might sort of grab on to different things as you grope up the fractal spiral ladder to the celestial peace that you may only find in Christ.
That's true.
But the principles remain the same.
Here's what I like about communism.
Fairness.
Sharing.
Not having an oligarchal global class telling everyone what to do.
Here's what I don't like about communism.
Centralising all power at the level of the state and allowing people to create de facto monarchies under the label of socialism, as happened in both China and Russia.
But...
Remember, the version of history that I'm assessing there is a version of history that was given to me by an institutional elite class in my own country that are invested in me being a forward-facing pleb.
That's what they want in the UK.
Same as here.
They send you to a school where you look forward at the blackboard, you sit down.
You're more likely to get injured sitting in a chair than you are doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
They want you dumb, forward-facing and remote-controllable.
That's the same in my country, same in your country.
So my point is this, when it comes to dear old Keir Starmer, who is a Christian I'm trying to love and pray for.
And it ain't that hard, really.
He's a beautiful person.
He'll be dead one day.
He'll be dust like all of us.
We'll be dust together in eternity, in infinity, and if we all accept Jesus together, surely we will know one another in the limitless expanse of the hereafter.
But for now, Keir Starmer appears to be one of those types of politicians that just says what he needs to say.
Oh, reform are getting a lot of votes, and they're saying that they want to control migration meaningfully, like net zero.
Trump's getting a lot of positive potency and power in the US with deportations, though he's been attacked in other quarters.
It seems somewhat absurd.
The MS-13 tattooed hand shit is blowing back and people are generally moving towards a kind of...
Well, Keir Starmer might be the last of the Mohicans when it comes to this type of politician.
I reckon their time might be up.
Let's have a look at Keir Starmer.
Being compared to the sort of ground zero of this type of rhetoric in the UK, Enoch Powell.
Enoch Powell actually...
Let's have a look at Enoch Powell in his own words, as it were.
This still has the same...
Oh, that's that one.
That's the old one.
I want you to watch this for a moment.
Hear me out and humor me, guys.
This is Enoch Powell, a British politician of the 1970s into 80s, who was being primed to be the leader of the Conservative Party.
And whether you like him or not, the reason he didn't become the leader was probably he was a bit too...
Aggressive, overt and honest.
I personally found a lot of Enoch Powell's rhetoric pretty disturbing because he was making these claims around the time of Windrush where the people that were migrating to the UK were from...
Nations that fought alongside British troops in the Second World War and had come to the UK in search of a better life.
Many people that come from Ghana, come from the West Indies, come from African regions in India, came to the UK not in order to sign up and be on welfare, but to work and to become nurses and doctors and contribute to a culture in the best possible melting pot way.
Years later, what has migration become?
Many people have become it's a way of destabilizing domestic populations.
You'll all be familiar with replacement theory.
These are ideas that you'll know more about than I do.
So Enoch Powell's famous speech was that there will be rivers of blood.
That the black man, this is his words, will have the whip hand over the white man and I see the river foam.
Like, who was the Roman historian?
I can't remember.
They were seeing the river Tiber foaming with much blood.
That was his famous...
And it generated a lot of tension.
Now watch this.
This is the kind of intelligent discourse that I pray will return.
I pray will return.
Jonathan Miller is an educated university class liberal.
Enoch Powell is a conservative.
Both these men probably literally speak Greek and Latin.
These are educated people.
Probably the best equivalent you might be able to reach for in your American culture is when Gore Vidal and William Buckley debated politics around the Nixon election, was it?
This is the kind of thing we need to return to.
We can't moronically flap our gums forevermore in hot and vibrant conflict.
We need to return to intelligent conversation.
Let's watch these two men arguing, and then we'll use this to analyse...
Why the world has become the way that it has empty, hollow politicians like Keir Starmer, and of course, a return to populist characters like Trump.
Let's look at it.
Nobody seriously imagines that if two-fifths of Birmingham consists of a first generation of descendants born here, of people from the West Indies, from Africa, and from Asia, there will not be a profound difference between that part of a population and the rest.
I think there may be a difference.
There certainly will be a difference.
Whether that difference is enough to promote anxiety unless someone declares...
You think nobody would notice?
No, I think they'll notice, certainly.
The question about this is whether they will notice with fear and horror unless someone announces to them that fear and horror are an appropriate response to such a fact.
I see.
And you think that human nature is such?
That unless somebody referred to this, nobody would notice that their own native cities were transformed, that the white population was moving out and a different population was moving out.
No, I didn't say that.
Well, you think then that it would be noticed, but that it would not merely be tolerated, but would be taken as a desirable or acceptable development.
No, I didn't say that either.
Well, that is what you have to say.
That is what you have to say.
If this is not to be a problem, you're simply putting words which you would find convenient in my mouth.
What I said was that...
Both of these men are supremely intelligent and I enjoy their manner of discourse.
Jonathan Miller clearly...
Refuse strongly Enoch Powell's position that migration is ultimately negative and terrifying and that Britain will lose its cultural identity.
Enoch Powell was a serious patriot and a monarchist and everything that one might imagine of a man of his generation and education.
What I'm enjoying is that Jonathan Powell, who was part of a quartet called Beyond the Fringe, along with Peter Cook, the incomparable and beautiful Dudley Moore, and Alan Bennett, a great British playwright, was part of an emergent generation who they performed before Jackie O and J.F.K.
in New York on Broadway.
They were part of this kind of...
Satire.
They were the advent of satire.
Political satire didn't exist before then.
So even something like The Daily Show and Jon Stewart emerges out of that political lineage.
You could go back to Jonathan's swift, I suppose, and sort of Gulliver's Travel, talking about contemporary comedy.
They were the ground zero of a type of satire.
Now, what I'm enjoying about the conversation is that it's...
Intelligent and reflective.
And that Enoch Powell is being forced to articulate his position more clearly because Jonathan Miller is not hollow or shallow.
He's trying to convey a compassionate perspective.
And Enoch Powell is trying to convey a conservative perspective.
We've not yet resorted to mudslinging, attacks on a person's character.
It's very, very interesting to me.
I didn't say that there would be no difficulties.
Difficulties are in the nature of human coexistence.
What I said was that the differences that there would be are not necessarily the differences which would excite fear and horror unless someone stands up and says that fear and horror are an appropriate response.
Someone invested with the authority of public office.
When you do that, the charisma of your office and the charisma of your role as a politician...
Will often convince people that fear and horror are an appropriate response if that is what is being told to them.
It's what philosophers call a performative utterance.
No doubt you're familiar with it.
And social cooperation is a hard and a difficult thing.
I feel that you would have done your duty as a politician, as an ethical politician, much more productively if instead of exciting the notion of future strife, you had encouraged the notion of future cooperation on the basis of understanding.
Let's get in touch with that at Eddie Burphy who made that clip because he might find archive for us that will help us when we do our new season to develop content that is more articulate and historically undergirded.
It's a good idea.
So, note that they cut Enoch Powell's response, so you have to pay attention to everything that's going on when you're trying to scrutinise something like this, but you get a general idea that there is a liberal, compassionate and human response to the problem of migration that Miller is trying to articulate.
Now, Keir Starmer, the problem with Keir Starmer having the position that he's now adopted on the subject of migration is that he's a political inheritor of the liberal left.
He's the leader of the Labour Party.
So it's like a Democrat politician suddenly saying, I'm changing my view on migration.
And people that are genuinely concerned about migration will say, oh, he doesn't really believe it anyway.
He doesn't have the interests of the British people at heart.
He's a globalist, imperialist, WEF-style politician that ultimately is invested in the managed decline of nations like the UK and the United States of America in order that global agencies and bodies can step in and reap the rewards of a falling civilization.
That seems to be sort of part of the perspective.
Now, here he is being compared to Enoch Powell on a British day.
He spent five minutes sounding to a lot of critics like he could have been Nigel Farage.
And the criticism is he actually sounded like Enoch Powell.
So I repeat the question, which is, did you know about this Island of Strangers line?
And is it one that you agree with and would use?
Well, I think what you heard the primary...
These are members of his cabinet sort of defending him.
This is Starmer himself in Parliament.
The situation is serious.
The last government lost control of the borders.
We are taking powers.
The borders bill, precisely to his point, the borders bill is the first bill to give terrorism-like powers to law enforcement, precisely so that we can get in before the crimes are committed, before people get to this country.
That's why this is the most far-reaching provision ever for law enforcement to defend and secure our...
And that's why it is extraordinary that he, of all people, voted against it.
It's very interesting.
This political debate is occurring as a result of the rise of Nigel Farage and reform in the UK as a meaningful political threat, which is itself as a result of the rise of populist nativist politics across the world, notably and primarily in the United States of America.
Many years ago, I was on a debate show called Question Time with Nigel Farage, and on that, I somewhat memorably coined and executed the phrase, you're a pound shop, Enoch Powell.
Pound shops are a bit like saying Timo, I guess, is what you have over here.
That's like an online version, isn't it?
But you know, like dollar stores.
It goes, you're a pound shop, Enoch Pound.
It was pretty funny.
It was a pretty slick lyric.
And also, by the way, at that point, I was being sort of like really pushed into various political positions.
And I think that there's something...
The British establishment in particular are observant as to when there could be some kind of populist uprising that's antithetical to their interests and are very quick to reclaim that space.
Probably that's true in your country as well.
And I, for a minute, was the middle of something that got kind of popular.
There was actual big protests.
Like 10,000 people marched the Downing Street for this housing thing that I was involved in.
I was supporting this campaign and I elevated and amplified an existing housing campaign and I think made it more successful, I would say.
Okay, let's have a quick look at this.
So around this time, I was invited on TV a lot.
I was moving out of being like what you might call a normal anodyne commodity celebrity into a slightly more volatile celebrity, though still at that point, probably aspects of my perspective were useful.
Not to mention the fact that because I've not been university educated or even fully high school educated, they could get me on TV shows and like...
Look, if you fly into Gatwick, you'll see lots of green spaces.
That is certainly true.
However, if you have a country in which the population goes up as a direct result of immigration, what you find is not a shortage of green fields.
If that's where you wanted to build houses, you find a shortage of primary school places.
You find a shortage of GP surgeries.
You know, we have fewer GPs per head than any other country in Europe today.
You find congestion, whether it's on the roads or the London Underground or wherever you go.
And what you find is that actually you're constantly playing catch up and really the general quality of life for the massive population has gone down.
So I think those comments today were wholly irresponsible.
Look at me, weird as fuck, on the TV as always.
That's not a normal way to sit, is it?
I'm so, like, loaded with adrenaline and cortisol all the time.
I'm well, well, well into recovery.
It's not that long ago.
Look at me.
That's not a normal way to behave.
Can I see the still of that?
Is that hard to get that on the monitor?
Look at me.
That's really...
Can I see it in split screen?
Let's watch it in split screen.
In 1990, the population of this country was 55 million.
It is now between 62 and 63 million.
That is a massive, massive increase.
And I think ordinary folk going about their lives are feeling it.
And I think, you know, having a proper immigration policy, controlling the numbers, doing what nearly 200 countries in the world.
Cut away.
Make sure you get a black person in the cutaways, as we can emphasise the At that point, I was at odds and loggerheads with Nigel Farage.
Listening to him now, I can hear his points about services and access to amenities.
But I would still like to layer in these important points.
Global commercial and corporate power that most diminishes the ability of ordinary people across the world to live fulfilling and economically appropriate lives.
Migration does not help when it's at the scale that it is now in some European countries and maybe even in your country.
The problem we get when focusing solely on migration...
It becomes dehumanising and it certainly isn't loving.
Many people will have recourse to the now popularly used adage, put your own mask on first.
You know, you can't save the world if you can't save yourselves.
But then I immediately pivot to this point.
What are your reference when it comes to deciding who has authority?
and what our vision for society is.
We live in a time of competing visions.
We've always lived in a time of competing visions.
The problem is now that the speed has exponentially increased to the point where all of us live in a blur of everybody else's cacophonous vision, a synthesisia of noise and sound and mad colour, of continual uncertainty.
In this place, only two types of leaders will survive.
One, the authentic...
If somewhat demagogic populists, as best exemplified perhaps like never before by Donald Trump, whose authenticity, easy rhetoric, can perhaps make up for some of the ways that he belongs to an age, I would say, economically, that might have passed.
Then you have these bureaucratic managerial types like Keir Starmer, who...
Like his forebears, and that includes people from both political parties, David Cameron, Tony Blair, will simply say what needs to be said in order to maintain power.
Whatever you think about Trump, can you imagine him prevaricating or going, actually now, I don't agree that we should build a wall.
Like, yeah, I shouldn't have said that.
There should never have been a wall.
And if he did, he would sort of say it like that, wouldn't he?
And you'd go, look, I did say build a wall, but now I'm against walls because of this reason.
There's a kind of some sort of earnest reliability at his core.
Keir Starmer, whether you're asking him whether a woman is a woman or whether a migrant is a migrant, is a person that I feel might not be deeply rooted in...
Principles.
But that might just be because of my own biases and prejudices.
I'm generally disposed to thinking of right-wing nationalism now to be interested in free speech, protection of personal values.
I'm still kind of concerned when I think about treating migrants.
In a way that is unfair and unjust.
I also obviously acknowledge that if you have a country, you've got to have borders.
And if you have a country, you've got to have a vision.
If you have a country, you've got to have leaders.
But perhaps what we are actually at now is the point where it's systems themselves that need to alter.
This is, by the way, precisely what I was saying under the decline of Democrat leadership and globalism and neoliberalism.
And now that we have a different political landscape entirely as a result of Trump, the MAGA movement, and the kind of boldness of the people that were...
I think what we have is a landscape now where we have to recognise that in order for the lives of ordinary people to improve, the systems themselves have to adapt and change.
Maybe your constitution is robust enough to enshrine, espouse and even house those ideas, i.e.
maximum independence in each state.
Each town, each street, each house and each heart.
But maybe it isn't.
That's just what I think.
I don't know what you think in the comments and chat.
We've been going for 63 minutes now.
We've done a good job.
Tomorrow we'll be back with our gang, group, show, which will be fantastic.
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And for us, we'll be back tomorrow.
Not with more of the same, but with more of the different.
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