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April 17, 2025 - Stay Free - Russel Brand
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Deportation OUTRAGE Backfires—MS-13 Connections Revealed – SF568
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Hello there, you awakening wonders.
Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
And what a day it is.
It's Thursday.
Thursday's the day.
We round up our entire week.
Thank you, Timcast, for the raid.
Mug Club in the house.
Bongino Army, Bongino Army.
Wherever you're watching us, X, YouTube, wherever it is, you are welcome on our Thursday Roundup Revolution.
We're going to have so much fun in here because, I mean, check out this.
Is this possibly true?
Has a hacked California crosswalk played fake messages from Musk and Zuckerberg voices?
And let me know in the comments and chat which one of those you'd be more likely to obey.
It is, in fact.
Hi, this is Elon Musk.
Welcome to Palo Alto, the home of Tesla Engineering.
You know, they say money can't buy happiness, and...
Yeah, okay.
I guess that's true.
God knows I've tried.
But it can buy a Cybertruck, and that's pretty sick, right?
Right? Fuck, I'm so alone.
It's real.
Hi, this is Mark Zuckerberg, but real ones call me to Zuck.
You know, it's normal to feel uncomfortable or even violated as we forcefully insert AI into every facet of your conscious experience.
And I just want to assure you, you don't need to worry because there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it.
Anyway, see ya.
amazing. I don't know if I'd be more inclined to obey that crosswalk or ignore it altogether.
Let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
We'll be with you wherever you are for about 10, 15, 20 minutes or so.
Then we're going to be talking about Maha, health, all sorts of matters.
I'm going to be joined by my incredible and beautiful team here.
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Tim Dillon thinks that maybe...
Maybe the COVID shots were an error.
And then this thing about vaccines, where I'm no doctor, I'm not a biologist, and I don't really know how effective these things were.
I got the COVID vaccine, and then I got COVID like four times.
not an ideal product.
You know what I mean?
In the most generous understanding of it, not an ideal.
Would have loved to get it two times after the vaccine or whatever it is, three or four.
So I feel like a lot of people
Now, my country, the UK, continues to descend into mad disarray.
You are no longer allowed to engage in even...
Thoughtful, friendly football chant.
Now those of you that scrutinise this footage will notice that this guy is shouting come on England at a pro-Palestine march.
But that pro-Palestine march...
Is taking place in England.
I fully agree that you should be able to have a pro-Palestine march.
If you're concerned about what's going on in Gaza and the West Bank and the numerous ways that that issue could be resolved and the violence and murder and madness to cease, I really support the rights of people in that conflict to have their voices heard and supported.
I also think that in England you should be able to say, come on England.
Come on England!
Come on England!
This is good man.
No! England!
Hey! Go, go, go!
Go, go, go!
What's going on?
What's going on?
We've got a scene on our BIA!
Yeah!
What did you do?
What milk for not man?
You're not in one minute.
He was there in England.
No, I'm not in the middle.
We're walking down the street saying What's up for not man?
Not for not boys.
We're not on the door.
Slam it, really slam it, really slam it.
Really slam it.
Yeah. Oh, that was terrible.
That was loud enough.
It's a weird time, isn't it, to see them police smiling as they bang that geezer out.
Let me know you think about that in the comments and chat.
There was a time when it was kind of assumed that the police were...
Kind of like racist and were governing or at least enforcing the law in support of kind of nationalism.
There was a famous murder case in our country, Stephen Lawrence, like 30 years ago.
It was a terrible, terrible, brutal murder.
And many people believed that the relationships between the murderers and the police...
It meant that justice was disrupted of the murder of this young black teenager at a bus stop.
And I remember at that time thinking, man, you cannot have corruption within the police force.
You've got to have a police force that's fully embedded in the communities.
I know so many people that are active members of the police force in the UK and in the United States.
And I know that they're beautiful, family-oriented individuals.
But of course, it's the head of the serpent that controls the movement of the rest of the body.
And the UK...
As headed in a serpentine direction, man.
If you live in a country where you can protest and have free speech, which has obviously got to be the aim and the ideal, you can't persecute and punish the indigenous population for expressing old-school patriotism.
Can you have the kind of patriotism that not so long ago was an absolute necessity if you needed people to die on battlefields across Europe in order to stand up for a thing called a nation?
What we're witnessing is the spasming, I reckon, of the end of national identity.
Globalism has pushed so hard, broken so many people.
We learned that in the pandemic period.
And now...
As nationalism pushes back, you're seeing these modes and ideas aren't working anymore.
We need radical, radical change.
I hope these are conversations we're going to be able to have.
Let me know in the comments and chat what you think about it.
Thanks very much, Mug Club and Timcast, for the raid.
We'll be with you wherever you're watching this, YouTube, X or whatever, for another 20 minutes as we talk about important issues like, indeed, this one.
Like, you know, if you're a parent, you know that your kids are basically addicted to screens.
Well, how do you handle that issue?
I'm in India And there's rain from everywhere
Turn them into little ninjas.
Get them tooled right up for the world.
That's what I want to do with my kids.
I'm going to train those kids to survive.
I'm going to get all Captain Fantastic about it.
You've got to raise them like a cell, knowing that they're entering into a holy war.
Now, one of the stories that we've got to cover today is the deportation of Armando Abrego.
It's an interesting thing when an illegal immigrant...
...is deported.
What are our rights of sanctuary?
What rights does a government have to control, manage, manoeuvre, manipulate its population?
What does it mean to be a refugee?
What does it mean to be a criminal?
What does it mean if you have an affinity with, an affiliation with criminal organisations?
And what does it mean, given that he's an El Salvadorian, when the president of El Salvador says, we're going to keep hold of him?
It's an interesting story.
It's dividing the world.
Billy Baldwin says, where was it proven that Kilmar Armando Albrego Garcia is a member of MS-13?
I don't want videos of Trump or members of the administration talking about it.
I'd like to see receipts, facts, documents, proof.
Can anyone provide that?
Well, thankfully, Rumble content creator and friend of the show, Viva Frey, has done exactly that, it appears.
Court documents confirmed to appeal highlighted included the link.
There you go.
So that's Viva Frey on the subject.
Yet more information in further detail that there does seem to be a connection.
Still, though, not enough information for...
Now, just to let you know...
Look, if you're going to have a country, you've got a country.
If you're going to have elections, you're going to have mandates.
If you're going to have mandates, you've got to expect people to govern on the basis of that mandate.
Me, I'm a person that actually does believe that we're all one human family here together.
It won't be divided by the colour of our skin, our religions.
In fact, we should be looking for affinity wherever, wherever possible.
New alliances.
We're on a precipice of something, I think, extraordinary.
This might be the end of the nation-state.
Maybe secession is the way forward.
Maybe Texas would be better off just being Texas on its own.
Maybe the United Kingdom should be the...
Maybe we should try to emulate and mirror our tribal growth for millennia.
But without principles, without recourse to some supreme ideal, you're going to watch people maneuvering in disarray across the planet.
Certainly that seems to be what we're experiencing right now.
Here's Chris Van Hollen.
He's heading to El Salvador to bring back Kilmar Armando Albrego.
Let me know what you think about that in the comments and chat.
I'm here at the airport.
I'm about to board my flight for San Salvador.
The goal of this mission is to let the Trump administration, to let the government of El Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting to bring Albrego Garcia home until he returns to his family.
I hope to meet with representatives of the government.
I hope to have the chance to actually see Kilmar and see what his condition is.
But we are going to keep fighting because this is a miscarriage of justice.
The Supreme Court has ruled nine to zero, nine to zero, that he was illegally taken out of the country and put in a prison in El Salvador.
This is about due process.
This is about rule of law.
What bullies do is they begin by picking on the most vulnerable.
But if we get rid of the rule of law, due process, the United States, it's a short road from there to tyranny.
It's really interesting to maneuver between platitudinous observations like bullies pick on the most vulnerable into complex legislation around deportation, when in general it seems that the American population elected Donald Trump in part to control.
Borders and that there was a deep concern that some of the people that were illegally in America, illegally in America, might have criminal records.
It's extraordinary that this case is being taken up.
What I feel sometimes is that if you were to live by the principles you're espousing when taking a position like our man's taken there, which is, I can see the morality and the ethics in that.
He's saying that absolutely you have to stick up for people.
People deserve sanctuary.
People deserve to protect.
If that's your position, then why would you not deal with that in the most immediate way possible?
America's in...
It seems to me, as a foreigner in your land, with a green card, that America's in a lot of trouble, that there's a lot of division, that there's a lot of doubt, there's a lot of concern, consternation, and I feel like as a citizen of the world, there are so many crises that are not being addressed.
What is it about this particular case and this particular individual that's captured the imagination of the world?
You know, like when there's some sort of particular and individual story, whether it's the death of George Floyd or the arrest of Carl Rittenhouse, that sort of captures the public imagination.
It's obviously because somehow packed into that issue is a story, a myth, a logos, an image that the nation is wrestling with.
What does America want to be?
Who is America for?
Who has authority now?
Is it the 9-0 Supreme Court?
Or is it the leader of the executive branch and President Donald Trump?
Whose authority do you respect?
There are some people that want to absolutely delegitimize Donald Trump.
Their entire campaign period was filled with attempts by the media and indeed the judiciary to delegitimize him.
Well, he's won the election anyway.
He's governing and he's governing, generally speaking, in a way that he said he would.
I don't know if you would say that's absolutely true when it comes to ending the Ukraine war, actions and ongoing war in the Middle East, whether or not enough's been done at the HHS around stuff like vaccines.
I don't know.
There are loads and loads and loads of questions.
But in a way, for me, all of these symptoms are indicators that there needs to be radical, deep change.
An incredibly resourceful, intrepid and deep review of what America means as a nation.
And the same is obviously true of my country, the United Kingdom, that appears to be in despondency and despair and falling apart, arresting people for essentially being English on the street.
Once being English is a crime, then we're all criminals.
Certainly that's one of the markers of authoritarianism, to make vague and opaque the laws around what crimes are.
And what constitutes criminality in order that particular individuals and particular cases can be pursued.
What we're living in is a crisis of authority.
So many people in the UK hate their government.
But then look, in America, so many people in the United States hate their current government.
I'm talking to the few people watching this now that are not MAGA, MAHA supporters.
They hate Donald Trump.
What are we going to do?
We're going to live continually in this tension, ignoring that there might be a way through this that might enhance all of our experience, that might somehow be in alignment with something deeper and more truthful than the mad and giddy fluctuations of a culture that seems to be controlled by forces that,
by my reckoning, aren't great.
But that's just why I think.
Let's see how Trump responded to that before...
Introducing some beautiful individuals working here at Stay Free.
Return the man who your administration says was mistaken.
I went to El Salvador.
That dude, Bekele, he made some pretty radical changes.
He's introduced cryptocurrencies.
He's introduced prisons en masse.
He's changed to El Salvador from the murder capital of the world to one of the safest countries in the Western Hemisphere.
It's extraordinary how much authoritarianism can achieve, but what mandate is it achieved under?
I wonder what the people of El Salvador think.
I wonder what you think.
I wonder...
What arguments can be made for the return of your man there if the president of El Salvador, the country that he's from, and Donald Trump, the country that he was illegally in, agree with what the solution is?
It's a really interesting moral dilemma.
Which one is it?
The man who was mistakenly deported to El Salvador?
Well, let me ask Pam, would you answer that question?
Sure, President.
First and foremost, he was illegally in our country.
He had been illegally in our country.
And in 2019...
Two courts, an immigration court and an appellate immigration court, ruled that he was a member of MS-13 and he was illegally in our country.
Right now, it was additional paperwork that needed to be done.
That's up to El Salvador if they want to return him.
That's not up to us.
The Supreme Court ruled, President, that if, as El Salvador wants to return him, this is international matters, foreign affairs, if they wanted to return him, We would facilitate it, meaning provide a plane.
You are doing a great job.
Thank you Also respond to that question because you know it's asked by CNN and they always ask it with a slant Because they're totally slant because they don't know what's happening That's why nobody's watching them, but would you answer that question
also? Yes, gladly so this pan mentioned there's a legal alien from
El Salvador.
So, with respect to you, he's a citizen of El Salvador.
So, it's very arrogant even for American media to suggest that we would even tell El Salvador how to handle their own citizens as a starting point.
Two immigration courts found that he was a member of MS-13.
When President Trump declared MS-13 to be a foreign terrorist organization, That meant that he was no longer eligible under federal law, which I'm sure you know, you're very familiar with the INA, that he was no longer eligible for any form of immigration relief in the United States.
So he had a deportation order that was valid, which meant that under our law, he's not even allowed to be present in the United States and had to be returned because of the foreign terrorist designation.
This issue was then, by a district court judge, Completely inverted.
And a district court judge tried to tell the administration that they had to kidnap a citizen of El Salvador and fly him back here.
That issue was raised to the Supreme Court.
And the Supreme Court said the district court order was unlawful and its main components were reversed 9-0 unanimously, stating clearly that neither...
Secretary of State, nor the President could be compelled by anybody to forcibly retrieve a citizen of El Salvador from El Salvador, who, again, is a member of MS-13, which, as I'm sure you understand, rapes little girls, murders women, murders children,
is engaged in the most barbaric activities in the world, and I can promise you, if he was your neighbor, you would move right away.
So you don't plan to ask for any help to get him back?
And what was the ruling in the Supreme Court, Steve?
Was it 9-0?
Yes, it was a 9-0.
In our favor.
In our favor, against the district court ruling, saying that no district court has the power to compel the foreign policy function of the United States.
As Pam said, the ruling solely stated that if this individual at El Salvador's sole discretion was sent back to our country, that we could deport him a second time.
No version of this legally ends up with him ever living here because he is a citizen of El Salvador.
That is the president of El Salvador.
Your questions about it, per the court, can only be directed to him.
Well, reality's become a television show.
We're all in a virtual reality.
We're all picking moral positions based on our previous biases, prejudices, and the coaching of whatever media alliances we've joined, sometimes unconsciously, and however we've been coached to think.
That's just what I think, though.
Or at least is what I think I think.
Let me know what you think.
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And before we leave you guys on X and you don't want to go yet because we're going to review Minecraft and talk about the chicken jockey sensation and that sort of phenomena and the madness of crowds, the madness of crowds, man, when we get exterior in us, we can cause all
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Okay, wherever you're watching us, YouTube or X, we'll be with you for a couple more minutes.
In fact, we're leaving YouTube right as we're discussing something that I know you're going to love.
Now, that Minecraft movie, I couldn't imagine that it was going to be any good.
I just want to say hello to all of the members of our team here in studio with me.
Here's Jake.
He's running things for us.
All right there, Jake.
What's up?
It's good to see you, mate.
All right, Isaac.
You doing okay over there?
Yeah, all good.
You look hunched.
Why are you hunched like that?
Because of this chair.
What's the name of that statue thing that you lot believe in?
A golem or something.
Is it called that?
Like that you put all your sins in.
It's made out of clay.
You mean the golem?
That's what I believe in.
No further questions.
You were right there, Isaac.
You've been working hard this week.
You feeling okay today?
Yeah, very good.
Yeah, good.
What about you, Matthew?
Are you okay, man?
Oh, good mate.
Yeah, looking forward to this story on Minecraft.
Well, yeah, I'm interested in it because it's not the sort of thing I'd imagine myself talking about.
Luke, how come you've brought this up?
Well, dude, I've seen it everywhere on social media.
It's all I've seen.
And the news clip that I provided for you to play and we'll watch, people were not only, like, throwing popcorn and destroying the place, but people are bringing bottles of lotion.
I don't know why the hell they're bringing lotion.
People are bringing actual chickens.
Insanity. It's insane.
Okay, well before we get into that, let's have a look at the Minecraft trailer Yes!
Don't worry!
I'm going to cushion our ball with this water bucket!
Really? In the overworld, anything you can dream about...
You can create!
So they built all this?
Yeah, most of it.
Hola. That thing doesn't understand a word you're saying.
We're talking.
Life here was perfect.
Until one day, Flint and Spear, we came across the Nether.
A place with no joy or creativity at all.
You! What are you making?
Aww! If they get their way, this beautiful world and everything in it will wither and die.
Biocon Dios.
It means goodbye, brother.
No, it doesn't.
Don't look at her.
It does.
If we want to save this world, creativity is key to survival.
Wait, now what?
Elytra wingsuit.
Bye-bye.
Those things work right?
Absolutely. Oh my gosh,
I'm so sorry.
This place makes no sense.
Let's do this.
They want me to fight the chicken?
Chicken Jockey!
*Gunshot*
Oh, no!
Not again!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
Are you all right?
Your head is huge.
Ha. Ah.
Thank you.
Alright then, Luke, so this is the news footage that you've bought.
Lotion? What is this?
A Diddy White party?
How would I know?
I only went to one.
It's the latest rallying cry for millions of moviegoers.
Chicken Jockey!
Those two little words sending teenage fans of a Minecraft movie into a frenzy.
Jockey! Resulting in screaming, popcorn throwing, and soda flying through the air.
In at least one case, the police have gotten involved, escorting some of the offenders out of theaters.
So what is a chicken jockey?
The official definition?
A child zombie who rides a chicken, of course.
This morning, that craze around chicken jockeys causing one movie theater in New Jersey to take matters into its own hands, instituting a new policy.
Minors will now have to have a parent or responsible adult with them if they want The township theater in Bergen County writing in a statement that a group of boys engaged in completely unacceptable behavior, including vandalism.
They also received multiple complaints from other moviegoers who were trying to enjoy the film with their families.
It's so mental, isn't it, that we're so on the edge of chaos continually that it just takes, like, chicken jockey, which you explain to me, Luke, it's just like it's a niche thing in Minecraft world that you'd only know about if you really cared about Minecraft, which I don't, because of the age I am and everything.
From what I know, yeah.
So that's what it takes for people to start releasing chickens in cinemas.
What does that mean?
What are people feeling that that is enough to get people...
What's being repressed?
What are we sitting on, man?
Like when people see...
The hype of a group of people freaking out for something niche, and it gets on video, and then they put it on TikTok.
Then another group wants to do it, and then another group wants to do it.
I mean, I even remember with, I think it was Despicable Me, some people would show up in theaters to watch it all wearing suits, and then it became this thing where everybody started doing that.
And so I think this is just another example of group hype, essentially.
Do you know like in our country, Britain, in like the 19th century, there was some craze for like running into pubs and going like...
Like your thumb, like thumb your nose at people.
And it got so out of hand that people had...
So this was like in the 19th century.
We're going to have to ban people going like that because they can't handle it.
There's like...
I think it's like that all of us are so restricted and constrained and overwhelmed and sort of like pissed off and like, oh, I don't know how many genders are there again.
Should we be in this war?
What my men are believing.
Everyone just wants to go, ah, chicken jockey!
Smash up a movie theater.
Like we can't take it.
There's too much...
Pressure being heaped up on us all the time.
What are you saying, Massey?
It's like a mob mentality, basically, isn't it?
It just takes one little spark, and then everyone goes crazy.
So you have, you know, everything from, like, the George Floyd riots to then Minecraft.
It's kind of, yeah, it's awesome.
It really undermines the veracity of massive social movements, doesn't it?
Because, like, people, like, you think you're getting behind something really important.
Like, no, hold on a minute.
There is too much police brutality.
Or, wait a second, this election was stolen.
But people can be hyped up on...
Chicken jockey!
That's enough to make people crazy.
Man, it made me think we're on the edge of something crazy, I think.
I bet Minecraft, as a movie, isn't exploring, like, complex themes and ideas.
Although I have noticed, from Lego Movie onwards, even films that are about even a toy...
Or what I would consider to be a limited narrative opportunities have become brilliant.
Have you seen it, Jake?
Your kids are into that Minecraft, I think.
I mean, they like to play sports and stuff.
I think the kids are so, they're stuck in school just sitting there learning about stuff that they won't use.
It doesn't really matter.
Like, my son's nine, and when he gets home from school, he just wants to yell and run around the house.
It's like he's a wild man that just needs to release all that energy.
And that's what's happening.
People are looking for any opportunity just to lose their minds, right?
Yeah, that's what it seems like, that there's something really hedonic being pushed down.
They've had to get the police because people are getting overwhelmed in a movie theatre.
On one hand, part of me really loves it.
I've always loved Chaos.
Even watching that British guy, say, in England, in that crowd, it reminded me of when I used to go to anarchist protests in the UK that were very left-wing, a union one in support of dockers, various black bloc movements that would reclaim the streets.
I think I was about that age.
Anyway, like, during that, there was, like, one kid, like, a lot of them were very idealistic, like, people wearing black masks and sort of all covered up, like, very much the beginnings of, like...
Sort of a, what's they call it?
Antifa-type vibes.
The beginnings of that before the culture war got as weird as it's gotten now.
And I remember seeing, like, one guy who was like a pure football hooligan.
Like, he weren't into it at all.
And he was just out to sort of raid shops and stuff like that.
But I liked him.
And I kind of thought...
That's the energy that can sort of change the world.
If the energy that's generated by that Minecraft chicken jockey moment was directed towards, for example, truly new systems of organising community, and I know it's hard because that's not a chaotic idea, it's a pretty boring and bureaucratic one,
you could sort of change the world.
And it is interesting to sort of note that whether it's something like you said, Massey, that feels like idealistically significant, like racial equality or gender equality or whatever from across the spectrum, you know, pro-life, pro-choice,
people can get worked up about like Minecraft, man.
I think young people are meant to rally around each other and get fired up about things.
We've got a bunch of young men who are sitting around masturbating, getting high, playing PS5 all day instead of spearfishing.
The reason we've got young people that are getting fired up about Minecraft movie and putting all their energy into something like that is because that is what they do all day.
They spend their time in front of a screen, masturbating, playing PS5 all day.
And that's just a result of that mentality, I think.
Yeah, that's their mindset and that's their world.
That's what they're spending their time staring at and therefore investing in.
And when I did do that, you know, and that's what I was doing when I was equivalent ages, jerking off, smoking weed, all that stuff.
Games consoles weren't...
Good enough yet to spend your whole life doing it.
They've gone awesome since then.
I don't know if I'd have been able to resist it if they were as good as they are now.
But when I did something like spearfishing, I want to be clear, I never even got to the point where I could handle the harpoon because I found it too hard to put the mask on.
But the bits that I did, I was like, man, if you had competence in something like this, the discipline required to keep the boat in the right...
Order, to get the wetsuit on, to get the stuff on, to get your mask on, then to swim down vertically 50 feet and shoot a fish.
You would be living a life that had meaning.
I reckon it's nihilistic.
That's all you can feel is that there's nihilism in it because we've...
We've lost our connection to meaning.
And like Jordan Peterson said, if everything is God, then anything is God.
If anything can be exciting, like if everything is exciting, then anything.
You can find yourself hysterical about a bloody little Frankenstein thing on a chicken just because, as you said, Luke, all their attention is getting pointed out.
It scares me a little bit because...
It makes me think, here we are, we're trying to talk about political and cultural ideas, and actually people would be just as interested if we played Minecraft or got our bums out, I mean butts in American.
Massey, maybe that's what we should do for the next episode.
Yeah, that sounds good to me.
I think it's pretty interesting that, like, what else could you get kids to do in a movie theatre?
Maybe this is some, like, psy-op from China or something.
If you can get them to go crazy and smash up a movie theatre just by showing something on screen.
What could they do with TikTok one day?
They just do something, a bunch of kids are together, and they start actually smashing shit up.
Maybe we'll look back at this moment in history.
You know how people always say, oh, they'll look back and say, World War III was started when they took the Donbass region, or it was on October 7th.
Maybe they'll look back at this and go, oh, the big revolution started during that Minecraft movie thing.
That was the first one of those things that happened.
It's an MKUltra plot to see if you can implant, like, hypnotic signals, at which point everyone rises up.
You know when you read those things where they say all of the illegal immigrants are actually, they're all fighting aged males.
They're all actually members of an army.
At some point, there's going to be just some image that's going to flash up, and they're all going to go, right, you're all under arrest!
Native populations of Anglophonic countries!
All of you round them up into some sort of convenient Minecraft prison.
It's not a bad theory, it's a pretty good one.
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Oh, me guts!
I keep belching and not feeling very well.
Perhaps that's because I simply don't have enough Korean kimchi down in my belly.
We've all noticed now that the subjects of diet, wellness, health, and nutrition are very flexible, amorphous topics indeed.
Is Bobby Kennedy going to be able to curtail the excesses of the pharmaceutical industry?
Are we going to be able to just eat healthy?
Or are we going to turn into a welfare state where people are using food, coke, coupons, just to drink sugary drinks, staring dumbly at a screen till a chicken jockey appears?
Hopefully not.
My next...
Next guest for whom I'm going to change my costume, Kim Bright, is hopeful that a blend of Christianity and fermented foods are going to bring us to a healthier America.
Kim, thank you for joining us today.
Thanks for having me.
Kim, I understand that you feel that we're at a pivotal moment when it comes to Bobby Kennedy's power and implementation of that power, that we're in a significant moment for...
Where potentially changes could take place at the level of government, but there is still opposition to it, even though you would argue, perhaps anyone would argue, that Trump's the most powerful man in the world now.
He's in office with an incredible mandate.
Bobby Kennedy's the head of the HHS.
What possible resistance or challenges could there be?
Well, I think we've got to really call it like it is, Russell.
We've got satanic forces on one side, that the bottom line and the money, that's what they're all about.
And then we have the godly forces on the other side that are looking to make America great and healthy again.
And they're going to fight.
And they're at odds.
They're exact opposites.
And people have to realize that.
That's what we're dealing with.
I mean, it's the SNL skit they did on Donald Jesus Trump, and it's Easter week.
It infuriated me that they're going to that length.
And it's just terrible how they're attacking people that are truth-tellers, that want to put in godly moral codes and live right and eat right, and they're attacking that.
So what is their real agenda?
I think they're from Satan.
We're going to have to unpack that a little bit, Kim, before we get all the...
All the way to Lorne Michaels' From Satan.
Because I hosted that SNL once and it was actually quite difficult and it was bloody exhausting actually.
But what I am interested in is, obviously I'm Christian, but I believe in free speech as well.
It's been kind of in some ways encouraging that...
Trump has been so open and advocating for Christianity, the post that he made recently.
This Holy Week, Christians around the world remember the crucifixion of God's only begotten Son, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
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Thank you and happy Easter.
Now isn't that an indication that...
Christianity is where, you know, most Christians would believe it belongs, at the forefront of people's mind, particularly at such a significant moment in the calendar, the week leading into Easter, Holy Week.
And I would say that, in a way, fine, SNL are going to be, you know, critical or blasphemous.
Me, as a sort of a believer in free speech, I would say...
I would never blaspheme myself, unless by accident, but I reckon that SNL should be allowed to if they want to, although I haven't seen the sketch myself yet.
Yeah, well, I believe in free speech too, but to me, when you do those kind of things, you're tearing the country apart.
Trump is putting it back together.
And we have to really look at the intentions of people, you know, if they really, you know, what the actual intention is and what will be the outcome.
And I think with RFK Jr., his intention is to expose all the poisons that have been put in our food.
He's being attacked for, you know, telling the truth.
He's got background in all of this.
So he really understands our food supply.
And I think that, you know.
All of the dangers of the vaccinations of the MNRA, you know, nobody's, you know, they're still being ignored.
And, you know, just because if you didn't get vaccinated doesn't mean you're avoiding, you know, getting the shedding and everything else there.
And he's, you know, I think that he really is going to change things.
And I think that we've got to change things in the food.
They're using MNRA vaccines.
In our meats, in our poultry, they're inserting it into the food supply because they think that's the good thing to do.
But really what it is, is let's, you know, let the cattle, the chickens and everything, have more room to roam and fix their guts.
I mean, just recently, they're starting to use seaweed, which is loaded with minerals, to help with cow flatulation, where they thought all the methane was coming from, when it's actually from their burping.
So the answers are really back in nature, what God put on the planet, not in, you know, all these chemicals and vaccinations.
This is what I believe in.
I believe that if we eat as God intended and we eat organically and we clean up our skies and our water and our food supply, which I think RFK Jr. is really going to do, we are going to have much better health all the way around.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I was surprised to hear you say that even if you've not taken the vaccine, you feel that you're still at risk of exposure.
I can see your point that if it gets into the food supply, then anyone who eats that food would be at risk.
What do you mean by shedding?
Shedding is when you're near somebody that has had the vaccination and they cough on you or they cough near you or they speak and it actually comes out and you have sex with them.
You can get shedding.
Kim, slow down.
One minute you're standing next to him, the next minute you're having sex.
What we obviously need is some sort of social distancing.
I'd say six feet.
Possibly people should wear masks as well.
Hopefully those masks will protect people.
What a delicious irony and what a journey we're going on.
I've heard people talk before about the potential that the vaccines might have a reach even beyond those that, you know, volunteered, and I use that word loosely, to take them.
Look, I would have thought that the fact that, even though I know that Bobby Kennedy is subject to a pretty vicious attack, and even though that Trump is criticised, I don't know that there's probably anyone in history that's been better suited to absorb attack than Donald Trump.
He's an extraordinary individual in just that measure alone.
But do you...
Do you not feel that this is a point where Trump's in office?
Bobby Kennedy's the head of the HHS.
Are you concerned that even in a position of power, they won't have the authority to make the kind of changes that are necessary?
Do you think that real power is therefore situated somewhere else beyond them?
I would have seen this as a sort of a moment for celebration for people that are just straight up Trump MAGA supporters.
Oh, yes.
I do believe what you just said.
But also, we have to understand there are other forces at work.
And I believe that Trump has the hand of God on him.
So I think ultimately, things will work out in that direction.
But I think it's not going to be an easy road to hoe because you're talking about the other people that what's important to them is power and money.
They're not concerned about people's health.
They're not concerned about what the end result is with our health.
And they're all about keeping us on.
You know, this sick train and not a health train.
And Bobby Kennedy Jr. and Trump, I think, really is about, you know, making everything better.
I mean, if you look at, you know, we're inundated with the TV commercials, Russell.
We're inundated.
With the pharmaceutical commercials.
And when you hear something over and over and over again, it goes in as truth.
And so people have to disabuse themselves of those ideas that we've heard over generations and really understand that true health is, you know, it all starts in your gut.
70 to 80% of your immune system is in your gut.
And we have that microbiome in our gut that needs to stay healthy.
We've got to have a good balance there of good guys and bad guys, just like the soil.
But with pouring all the poisons in the soil, herbicides, pesticides, those destroy the microbiome in the soil.
So if we raise plants out of sick soil, we don't get healthy.
And so we need to have a way to grow organically and have the plants have a very...
Diverse microbiome in their soil so we can get that diverse microbiome in us, which is the good guys outweigh the bad guys, the fungus, the molds, the yeast, the parasites.
So paying attention to our gut is very important to our health because the gut is where everything starts.
We have a gut.
Brain axis, we have a gut-skin axis.
You have any kind of skin conditions, it ties back to the gut.
You have brain fog, it ties back to the gut.
If you have hormone problems, it ties back to the gut.
We have the gut-hormone axis.
So the gut is key to our health.
It is our core.
That thing you said about microbiome being in the soil sounds like really close to ecological and permacultural arguments that used to sort of, for a minute, be sort of a left-wing position.
Because when I think about big agriculture and industrial agriculture and how big agriculture intersects obviously with big food and the crises that farmers across the world, your country, my country, feel like they're facing usually because of top...
I know that isn't the same agency that...
Bobby Kennedy's in charge of.
Makes me realise that, in a sense, we need an ideology that's transcendent of the typical taxonomies of politics.
It's gone way beyond left and right, and it's interesting to hear that by your reckoning there's some analogy that could be made between the health of soil and the health of the human gut.
friends and have been for a long while with Vandana Shiva, who's an Indian scholar and activist who's opposed pretty vociferously and aggressively Bill Gates and his impact on agricultural practices in India, his attempts to patent and control seeds over there.
I wonder if you feel then that,
And can you tell me how the broader agricultural arguments impact you, particularly because your capacity is a representative of kimchi 1, which I guess is a supplement that's derived from fermented foods.
I like to drink a bunch of kombucha.
I've started taking this kimchi 1. What is the analogy and connection between what you just said about the soil and what you said about the gut?
Because it sounds to me like the kind of thing that would be pretty difficult to reverse.
Well, yes, it's going to be difficult to reverse because it's been going on for so long, but we have to start somewhere.
And kimchi is a food that's been used for centuries in Korea, and it's a fermented food.
And I've been helping people with their health for almost 50 years, Russell.
And so this is very important to understand that one of the most important foods that you can eat, like you take kombucha, that's fermented.
So we're supplying our gut with beneficial bacterias when we eat fermented foods.
But kimchi has over 900 different probiotics, and it has these unique strains that aren't found in sauerkraut or kombucha or any other fermented foods.
And so kimchi is the king of fermented foods, and we were able to take that.
And put it in a capsule because Americans have very different palates and they smell things differently than the Koreans do.
They're not used to eating kimchi every day to help their gut.
And so by taking it in a capsule, it's convenient.
And by taking it in a capsule, you don't smell or taste it.
It has different chilies and garlics and gingers and shrimp paste and fermented cabbage and all these things in it that people aren't used to that smell in America, but yet they want the results from it.
So that's why we created it.
And daily consumption leads to better gut, better digestion, better absorption, cleaning up skin conditions.
Brain fog goes away.
Digestive issues goes away.
We've even looked at studies on hair where they've eaten kimchi and the hair is growing back.
Men that have severe male pattern baldness called alopecia, it's growing back.
The hair follicle actually is getting thicker.
And same thing with women.
They did a test on adults from, I think they were age 20 to 65, and it happened very rapidly.
It was over a four-month period.
Also, obesity.
This is very good for obesity because they did studies on obesity and BMI and also on the actual gut microbiome because they took...
And they saw that their waist circumference and their BMI went down significantly.
This food is so vital and important to have on an everyday basis.
It's going to boost your immune system, boost your metabolism, your energy levels, your blood sugar levels are changed.
And people that have post-syndrome from taking the COVID shots, we've got some people that called us in and said that after they made the decision to take the COVID vaccine, they had strange lingering symptoms and they couldn't sleep.
They couldn't think.
They had aches and pains.
They couldn't digest right.
They had bloating.
Their mood was bad.
And after taking our kimchi one, that all changed.
And so we've got so many stories like that.
You know, in the beginning, you talked about American palettes being different from Korean palettes.
It was very hard for me not to stop you in your tracks to do some subpar and potentially racist jokes about eating dogs.
I resisted it, of course, because I'm a professional man in many ways.
Now, a lot of things you described there sounded like anecdotal rather than clinically proven evidence.
Now, I believe that by achieving harmony...
With nature, it's just common sense, our health will improve.
I believe that gut health is super significant, that there's a kind of brain in the gut, that there's a brain in the heart.
I believe in all of that.
Do you feel like with Jay Bhattacharya now at the NIH and Marty Makari at the FDA and Dr. Oz running the CMS and Bobby Kennedy running the HHS, that different methods and measures and modalities like this will get a fair chance?
Have you got anything that amounts to scientific evidence, particularly with pretty audacious claims like, you know, ending male pattern boredness, reducing, like helping people lose weight, reversing the impact of a vaccine?
These are pretty bold claims.
Those are clinical studies that I just...
On skin and health care, and that is found on different sites.
Government sites have those studies.
There was also a study that was published in ScienceDirect.com, and that's on the levels of obesity, reducing that.
There are so many studies in Korea that show what kimchi can do for those things that I just addressed.
So yes, they're backed up with studies.
Korean scientists, we can't trust these crazy Koreans.
As far as I know, they are no better than those Wuhan laboratories.
I know Korea is not China, but it's too close for us to be able to relax when it comes to laboratorial methods.
Hey, listen, I've took one just now.
How many have I got to take?
Well, you should take three because that is going to give you the same amount that they used in these studies.
Every day?
Every day you want to take your fermented foods.
The Koreans eat kimchi every meal, Russell.
Some of them, every single meal.
That's what keeps them healthy.
Are they healthy though?
Alright, so this is number three, the third one.
Good. Can you taste it?
Can you smell it?
Yeah, I actually could feel something coming out of it that I weren't that sure of.
You know, I'm interested in the results and I feel like, you know, I'm a person that won't take antibiotics now and this is a pretty serious situation.
My cynicism towards big farmers...
Near, total and absolute.
Not that I don't believe in the medical establishment, and I don't know loads and loads of brilliant doctors, like the doctors who saved my son's life through surgery, or the brilliant doctors that worked on my mum the many times that she had cancer, but that don't mean I foreclose on the possibility that my mum's cancer was likely caused by a combination of bad diet,
bad media, and living in a very, very stressful environment.
I feel like the kind of studies that don't get done, don't get done for a reason.
That's right.
Mate, earlier you talked about the fact that, in a sense, we've fallen to Luciferianism, and one of the passages from Scripture that you'll be familiar with that's often cited when discussing that is Ephesians, out of Ephesians 6 and Ephesians 6.12 specifically,
for we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness.
That's before St. Paul advocates for us wearing the full armor of God, as well as that sort of chapter, or at least verse, that seems to be saying that there are dark powers that control reality.
I've heard some people say that descriptions of demonic and parasitic forces sound a lot like biological parasites.
What do you think about that, mate?
The idea that sort of...
When there's talk of demonic forces, they have a physical component that they're not entirely spiritual and could be regarded as, you know, vampiric little entities, sucking awareness.
I've burped a couple of times there, but that might be the kimchi.
It's working.
It's already happening.
It's happening.
It's destroying those parasites and the yeast and the molds and the fungus in you.
Is it really?
Yeah. I hope so.
What do you think about that?
Do you think sometimes that there are scriptural verses that are describing biochemical realities that at that point they didn't have the ability to discern or observe?
I agree.
Yeah. All right then.
Well, at least there's a good many more reasons to be optimistic now than there ever have been previously.
Trump is in office.
Like all people, he is fallen and broken.
But I pray, too, that he has the hand of God upon him.
Certainly, Bobby Kennedy, I know, is a man of deep integrity and authenticity.
I'm in a position to at least have personal testimony when it comes to Secretary Kennedy.
And my prayer is that this is a time of healing for America.
Thank you for our...
And thank you for this free sample.
I can tell you now that it's made me burp some, but I hope that my gut biome is rearing up with the power of an archangel, even as we speak.
Kim, it's good that your name's Kim, isn't it?
And that you're advertising Kim Chi.
That's convenient.
Do you think that influenced you into it on some level?
Well, you know what?
You know what Kim means in Korean.
It means gold, and Chi is energy or life.
So you have just ingested golden life.
Oh, thank the Lord.
Thank the Heavenly Father.
There you go.
There you go.
But you know what?
I'm 70 years old and I am beaming with health.
You're looking good, mate.
Thank you.
Got some muscle here, everything.
The whole thing is taking care of yourself.
I've been eating organic and teaching people for almost 50 years how to take care of themselves.
So I know a little bit.
And I've been Maha before Maha was around.
And I, you know, really want to help people and I want them to understand.
And back then they called me a quack.
They said she didn't know what she's talking about.
And yet it's all coming around and being...
You know, being shown is truth now.
So what you eat is what you become.
What you absorb is what you become.
And we have to pay attention to our gut and our soil.
Praise the Heavenly Father.
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Thank you.
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God bless you.
God bless you, ma'am.
Yeah, happy Easter.
Praise the Lord.
He is risen.
He is.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks, Kim.
4chan got hacked.
Now, 4chan, you know, for me, is one of the sort of foundational online spaces from which emerged things like Keck and even, like, the Proud Boys and sort of right-wing thinking and ideals that have actually permeated all the way to the White House, some people would say.
Let me know in the comments and chat.
So why is the 4chan hack important?
Let's have a look at it.
So, for instance, one of the things that was brought up was apparently some of the emails that were leaked according to the moderators belong to.gov accounts.
Now,.gov...
Obviously belongs to the government.
And obviously, this I wanted to really get into.
Were there people from the government inside 4chan?
Wouldn't be a shock to me, because obviously, FET posting and, you know, federal agents going into organizations like this, and again, like, posting around, basically being undercover is not something unknown, alright?
It's something that has happened in the past, verifiably so.
So I wanted to look at one of the sources for this claim, and I think the source for this claim ended up coming from a board known as Incels.is.
So according to one of the users here, did you see that the mods Jannies had their email addresses leaked?
Lots of edu.gov domains in there.
No wonder I've been banned literally hundreds of times from blueboards for racism.
By the way, Jannies admit in their banned reports that they target users for not breaking the rules.
It's a whole different language in a whole different world where people sort of proudly wear the term incels as kind of like a badge of honor.
Owning it.
Really extraordinary.
And the use of language, it reminds me of a time that I once gave a talk, I think, about knife crime or something to some youth group in London, and I realised that I just spoke a different language from those kids.
I might as well have been going...
When I was a boy, we used to drop a penny down the well.
Aw, man, those was tough times.
There's a snake in my boots.
Inside what appeared to be some of the actual discords for 4chan, one of the actual moderators started going, Obviously, 4chan, there's been a hack.
The site itself has been halted until we can determine the damages.
It's likely that email addresses have been leaked.
Seems to be so.
Perhaps IPs as well.
You'll need to hold on to those email accounts in order for us to do password resets when the site is back up.
Don't delete them or anything.
And if the Janies here were willing to use their actual work business emails, probably isn't going to look that good when people are doing a deep search of you down the road.
But of course, over here, I think it's more important to worry about what your email address is connected to.
So have you used it for LinkedIn or Facebook or GitHub or Google?
You know, places where people do actual mainstream work from.
Why do you think it's important, Isaac?
Why is it relevant what happens on 4chan?
And don't we just assume that the government is infiltrating every place where there might be conversations?
Yeah, so the reason why I thought it was important was because if, in fact, there are the government email addresses in there, it kind of lends credence to the Tuesday show, Tucker Clip, where...
Was it a congressman, was saying that the government has courses to make people into conspiracy theorists?
So that would actually lend credence to what he's saying if they're going into these 4chan boards as.gov admins, essentially, and, you know, sowing these seeds of doubt in the community and hoping that something comes out of it.
Yeah, you're talking about Kurt Walden's conversation with Tucker Carlson, where he says that propaganda is used, of course, to maneuver public opinion.
It reminds me of some of the stories that emerged 10, 20 years ago about the FBI infiltrating groups and sometimes suggesting to them plots.
Like, wouldn't it be a good idea if you blew up this thing?
And then the people that they'd suggested it to, often destitutes and hopeless folks, would attempt to carry it out, with the FBI often supplying them with gelignite and equipment to carry it out and then arresting them.
Meaning, it's no longer an investigation, it's actually incitation.
In a way, the reason that language like red flag events has even emerged.
And it seems to me pretty obvious that if you have the infiltration of the Jan 6 marchers, if you have infiltration into all protest groups and activist organisations, of course they're going to do that online as well.
Of course, the vast new territories that have been opened up in online spaces To be monitored if what your ultimate aim is, is control.
And continually we notice, particularly say with the UK government, that everything they do, no matter what they say, is in order to legitimise control.
The kind of people that would arrest you for sort of speaking out of school when it comes to matters of race or civil rights will of course infiltrate chat sites.
And they'll always claim that it's for your safety and it's counter-terrorism.
Whether it's in your country or mine.
But the aim will always be the same.
Absolute control.
Maximal control.
But the problem is this.
The human spirit is a vast and chaotic thing, as we just witnessed there with that madness of chicken jockey and the Minecraft real-life memes that are emerging.
The madness of crowds has always been something the authority has sought to control, measure, manipulate and direct.
The fact is we need constant wars or bad food or bad information to control.
It's always been this way.
The reason I advocate so strongly and so consistently for spiritual awakening is because if your own actual access point, your own portal to reality is well tended, it don't matter what they put in front of you.
You will have the means and methods to navigate it.
But that's just what I think.
Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and chat.
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Let's raid the quarter in.
If you want to stay on Rumble for a little while longer, I know the quarter in are hanging out.
See you on Monday.
Not for more of the same, but more of the different.
Until then, if you can, stay free.
Man is switching, switch on, switch on.
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