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April 3, 2025 - Stay Free - Russel Brand

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	Bye. Now.
	you Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Brand.
	What a fantastic day it is!
	Is as well.
	First day show, very, very special.
	We take dives into a variety of subjects.
	And while Elon Musk may be on his way out of government, we are soaring to glorious new heights with thanks to Bongino Army, Bongino Army, Mug Club, thank you for the raid.
	Timcast, thank you for the raid.
	Over the next hour, we're going to be looking at a variety of stories, including Elon Musk's departure from government.
	Let me know in the comments and chat what you think about that.
	Have Tesla and the Tesla protesters succeeded in ousting their man?
	Wherever you're watching this, you could be on YouTube, could be on X, you're going to have to ultimately make your way to Rumble and Rumble Premium.
	If you support some Rumble Premium, you get additional content from us, as well as the likes of Glenn Greenwald, Kim Iverson, Dave Rubin, Crowder, Paul, Dr.
	Disrespect, all of Rumble's free speech army.
	What a time it is to be alive.
	while politics might be becoming more and more like wrestling.
	Trump's always had one hand inside the ring.
	I mean like wrestling ring, not like an a-hole or something.
	Donald Trump may have to get his hands dirty himself.
	I told him.
	He may have to process it to get his mouth here.
	Hey, look at this!
	Oh, no, Trump!
	Donald Trump!
	Donald I think that's real.
	Is it real?
	Do you think it's real?
	Okay. Well,
	you know, he's made a noble effort there to fulfill his duty as a participant in a public event.
	The main news today on our show is that Elon Musk's time in government appears to be wrapping up.
	Let me know in the comments and chat if you think that's a result of the success of the Tesla protests.
	And let me know if you think that Tesla protesters should receive the same Treatment as January 6 protesters around the world now there continue to be natural disasters and indicated that uh Indicators that our almighty creator is infuriated with us.
	For example, there's this earthquake in Myanmar Let's have a look at this novel solution to the family and a demonstration of a novel solution to the problem And a demonstration that heroism still very much thrives in Christ This is the moment a heroic father
	jumped across a gap 600 feet in the air to get to his wife and child as an earthquake tore their apartment block apart.
	The heroic dad, Kwan Yung Joon, made the Hollywood-style leap as the walkway connecting his block to a neighboring high-rise collapsed in Bangkok, Thailand, due to the 7.7 magnitude earthquake that hit the country.
	Bloody hell!
	Hanging by a fragile thread.
	I've been learning a lot about St. Francis of Assisi and apparently St. Francis of Assisi saw the world as if it were hanging upside down.
	The word dependent in Latin means hung upon If you consider everything not to be pulled to the earth by gravity, but suspended temporally, you can feel a new fragility in reality.
	Wherever you're watching this, YouTube X, ultimately make your way to Rumble or get Rumble Premium.
	It really helps us when you support us there.
	Over the course of today's show, we're going to be looking at a variety of stories, including the now potentially depying Elon Musk's Ukraine row with Mark Kelly.
	And some of the extraordinary deception that continues around Ukraine.
	We're also going to be looking at Bill Maher and Trump's interview, brokered brilliantly by Kid Rock, soon to be friend of the show, I'm sure.
	I also wanted to, before we leave, touch on this Elliot Page story.
	My husband says men never think like this or act like this.
	He says this is a woman trying to be a man who's acting like a woman.
	I agree.
	Now, one of the conversations that I had with Jordan Peterson some time ago, centred around Elliot Page and gender issues more broadly.
	Let's have a look at this interview with Elliot Page and see where we stand on it now.
	Me, personally, I try to turn when in doubt to the example of our Heavenly Father and His living Son, Jesus Christ.
	And I can't help but think that continually, compassion is the place we must return to.
	And if ever given the choice between judgment or love, we must always Love.
	I was told recently, never let truth outrun love.
	Let me know in the comments and chat where you stand on that.
	Let's have a look at Elliot Page and who are we to judge anyone?
	Let's have a look.
	Goodness, what has brought me the most joy?
	the most joy.
	Okay.
	It's the little, it's, you know, Getting out of the shower and the towels around your waist and you're looking at yourself in the mirror and you're just like, there I am.
	I'm not having all these little moments that used to be just being in a t-shirt.
	It's being able to touch my chest and I think when you see Elliot Page it's difficult not to...
	Return continually to compassion and love as the Baromah and Fred that we have to continually hold when negotiating and navigating social issues.
	And however Elliot Page's choices and decisions have been used and deployed by the culture, me, my perspective and my duty as a follower of Jesus is to be continually loving with recourse only to judgment and discernment when required.
	And I don't see that anything's required here other than love.
	But that's just what I think.
	Why don't you let me know what you think?
	Now, to the ever simple and easy to navigate territory of Kanye West.
	I often wonder, what will Kanye call his next record?
	Kanye seems to be in pretty good shape lately, dressing up in leather Klansman's outfitters.
	Okay, okay, I mean...
	I love it.
	I love it.
	And, you know, no bad ideas in a brainstorm, Kanye.
	No bad ideas in a brainstorm.
	Blue sky thinking.
	And could we call it maybe blue sky thinking?
	No, man, I'm thinking white rape or n-word cuck.
	Those are very evocative titles, Kanye, certainly.
	And I could see it doing well.
	But I do have some concerns.
	I have some concerns, Kanye.
	Gotta love him.
	Lord alone love Kanye West.
	Kanye West is pushing boundaries, baby.
	He's pushing them.
	Later on in the show, we're going to be looking at increasing Ukraine tensions and Elon Musk's ongoing Let me know in the comments and chat whether you think it's the Tesla protest or some of the political positions that he's taken that are leading to his departure.
	Was it always a temporary arrangement?
	Let me know in the comments and chat.
	Later on in the show, we're going to be hearing from the members of the Stay Free team as we talk about the week's news.
	Now though, have you seen this terrifying image of Christianity that has been made by AI?
	Have you seen this, Isaac?
	You're a Jewish man, you should be interested to know.
	Bible, and particularly the early part of the Bible.
	Have you seen this yet?
	Have you seen it?
	Have not.
	You've not seen it.
	That's why.
	Still, don't worry.
	I'll keep you safe.
	I'm not going to let him anywhere near you.
	I will not...
	Let him anywhere near.
	If this goes missing, Isaac, you're the first person I'm going to turn to.
	We're going to be talking to the team about a variety of news stories this week.
	Did you see our stuff yesterday about Adolescence?
	Man, I was enjoying chatting about that.
	I talked about it primarily on Premium, but you can still see that content cut elsewhere on Rumble.
	We'll be talking to our team, including Massey, who handles all our post-production.
	Our social media manager, Luke, is that what you like to be called?
	Our overall executive producer and leader, Jake, who's also known as, what is it they call it?
	What do they call you?
	They call me Teemu Russell-Brown.
	Teemu Russell-Brown because you look like, does that mean like a budget?
	Yeah, it's like a bargain Russell-Brown.
	Bargain Russell-Brown.
	We'll be talking to the whole team over the course of the show, but let's first of all have a look at, oh wow, no, first of all, let's look at this before we leave YouTube or X or any of that.
	Let's have a look at this story.
	This is Elon Musk.
	He's Out, it seems.
	A couple of months of Elon Musk was more than enough for Trump.
	Let me know in the comments and chat what you think about that.
	Do you think it was caused by the Tesla row?
	Or do you imagine it was caused by some of his positions on geopolitical matters?
	And maybe even these comments about Senator Mark Kelly, the traitor comments.
	Let's have a look at that story now.
	You have some new reporting about Elon Musk and his White House role.
	What do we know?
	Yeah, Kate, over the last several days we've heard from President Trump in the Oval Office on Monday saying that Elon Musk would be going back to the private sector in the near future.
	Well, we're just hearing from a senior White House official that the president did tell his cabinet back during a meeting on March 24th that Elon Musk, who heads up Doge and of course has become a key figure in this administration, that he would be going back to the private sector.
	And the White House official tells me that this This would be at the end of his 130 days as a special government employee.
	Of course, that would be in late March.
	So of course, Kate, this comes on the heels of that special election in Wisconsin yesterday, where Democrats are seeing that as a win.
	Elon Musk, of course, spending millions, his PAC spending millions of dollars on that state Supreme Court race, and that his candidate lost significantly in that race.
	This all comes in that timing.
	But again, the White House saying that this was in the works.
	Well, let me know what you thought about that story in the comments and the chat.
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	To the next level.
	When major advertisers conspired, yeah conspired, to pull their dollary-doos, even brands like Dirty Dunkin' Donuts, which I think of as being a bit like the Dunkin' Donut of that Tesla guy that wiped his hand on his butt.
	Remember him?
	This guy?
	Dunkin' Donuts is the donut equivalent of that.
	The free speech hatin' pigs, claiming that Rumble had a right-wing culture.
	How dare they?
	I mean, look at just some of these comments.
	Rumble does not have a right-wing culture.
	We are doing our very best to include everyone.
	That's from a Mr. A. Hitler.
	Look at this one.
	Rumble is my favorite site.
	I love it.
	I listen to it every night by Firelight.
	That's from a Mr. Ku Klux Kla- Like, how can anyone have a problem with Rumble, one of the great stations?
	We're not here to fit a mould.
	We're here to defend free expression.
	That is the milk of free speech coming out of the tit.
	Or just a tit, really.
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	Doctor Disrespect!
	That's my actual doctor.
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	Now, what happens when the most advanced AI mind tackles Holy Scripture?
	I think it gives us some pretty interesting insights into the holiest of books.
	Have you seen this interpretation of the Bible?
	By the way, out of our team, who here is a Christian?
	What's everyone's Jewish background before we proceed?
	I'm of course, I don't know if I've mentioned it, I'm a Christian, nearly been a Christian for a year.
	You, Jake?
	Yep, Christian.
	Isaac, could you just say your full name?
	Isaac Levi.
	Keep going.
	What about the middle ones?
	Noah. And any more?
	No, that's it.
	Isaac, Levi, Noah, and the last...
	Right, and you don't want to say your surname because in case anti-Semites are watching this...
	No, my surname is Levi.
	Right. That's the priest class, eh?
	Leviticus, like that book, yep.
	Read it!
	Read the whole book!
	Gets better, second...
	I've read the Bible, second part's better, I would say.
	First bit.
	They're strict!
	People not really listening, were they?
	Not listening.
	But that's just my version of the Bible.
	You'll be meeting the rest of our team coming up.
	Luke, who handles our social media.
	In fact, some of the more controversial moments are directly his fault, I would say.
	And Massey, who ensures that what goes out is worthy of being watched.
	He's our head of post-production.
	But first, let's have a look at this AI-generated piece of scripture.
	Let's go.
	I never thought a serpent as having ears before that makes the serpent a bit worse.
	I think those is Yeah, the Lord in the garden that's what I like to see in the beginning was the word yeah, let's go gospel John on that Tower of Babel, that was a bad idea.
	Another time they weren't listening.
	They won't listen all day that lot.
	I'm really interested to talk about the pyramid story a little bit later as well.
	Have you seen that stuff that the pyramids were generated?
	Are those of you that followed like Graham Hancock and was that other guy called Randall Carlson?
	Are we familiar with these kind of ideas that the pyramids might have been generators?
	I'm fascinated by that.
	We're going to be talking about that a little later as well as talking about the potential for reconciliation across the culture.
	get back to this bible in ai though so
	so It looks amazing, doesn't it?
	It looks, like, pretty good.
	Massie, you're generally speaking, what are you, an atheist, a secularist, an agnostic, a mystic, a shaman, a Muslim?
	I mean, what do you make of it?
	I'm atheist, but I was christened, but this is enough to make me get confirmed.
	This is pretty badass.
	I like it.
	Yeah, it's pretty good, isn't it?
	Because I think over the course, while we're all working together, I feel like the Christian members of the team, we're quite expansionist, like, and we're sort of working, I do quite a lot of work on Isaac, I'm always trying to get Isaac to essentially renounce his Judaism, far from listening to his AIPAC claptrap, I'm actually trying to Get him on board as a Christian.
	Luke, I think, well, most of the team's been Christian longer than me.
	Do you think that we should tacitly make it part of our shared community goal to get Massey and Isaac in particular to come to the Lord?
	Oh, that is my only goal.
	That's the only thing I think about every day when I come into work here, for sure.
	Sometimes you do seem distracted, like, because I sometimes see some of the stuff you're putting on X and I'm thinking, this guy's just thinking about converting Massey, otherwise he wouldn't be making these controversial statements.
	Let's have a little bit more of a look at the script chat illustrated by the mind of AI.
	We've got so much more to discuss.
	We're looking at the Egyptian pyramids.
	We're going to be looking at the potential conciliation that could be achieved by Bill Maher and Trump and so much more.
	right back.
	I mean, that's going to be a serious tool for conversion, isn't it?
	If you're watching us on X or YouTube or anywhere other than Rumble, then please click the link in the description and join us on Rumble.
	On Rumble Premium, me and the team are going to be talking about some of the best and brightest and biggest stories from this week.
	Why is Nick there?
	Is that an anti-semitic claim?
	We'll be talking a little more about Kanye.
	I'll be watching the trailer for The Chosen.
	Let me know in the comments and chat if you've seen it yet.
	Thanks very much Mug Club, Bongino, Army Pool for the raid.
	We'll be throwing to a quarter in at the end of our section.
	But we've got so much more to talk about on the precipice of a new era with Elon Musk potentially leaving government.
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	Join us over on Rumble.
	Let's have a quick look at this story, actually, about Nick Fuentes, who's got an interesting theory about the origin of vampires.
	Let's get into it.
	Think about all the tropes about vampires.
	They're afraid of crosses.
	They're from Eastern Europe.
	They're very pale.
	They suck blood.
	You know, they drink blood.
	So the myth of the vampire does come from Ashkenazi Jews and any way that the rituals they used to perform, which is historically accurate.
	Isaac? What have you got to say about that?
	Nah, he's crazy, man.
	Ashkenazi Jews, okay.
	Well, I once had one of those gene tests done where you get all your chromosomes looked at.
	Have you ever had that done?
	The type of Jew I got in me is...
	They told me I had some of that one.
	Aren't they the cleverest ones?
	Well, I'm Sephardic.
	So I'm Middle Eastern Jew.
	Well, both, but mainly Ashken- uh, Sephardic, yeah.
	All right, and so what's the- well, I don't mean to sound anti-Semitic, but what's- what's the difference, and why are you in charge of Hollywood?
	So the- the difference mainly is that Ashkenazi Jews, after basically exile from Israel and everything, those are the Jews that ended up in the diaspora in, like, the European area, and the Sephardic and Mizrahi are, like, more, like,
	in the We're good to go!
	Yeah, I think there's a couple of things.
	You have somebody who's had such a great career.
	And but we're all still open to sickness and hardship.
	You know, even at different times, you've had so much fame.
	I think about that aspect of them and then you're just you're gone and people do a little.
	Memory of you we talked about it on a show.
	Yeah, and then you know, that's kind of it So what kind of legacy is lasting then?
	I want to hear like your thoughts on Hollywood Because one part that was interesting for me is like when you first see Val Kilmer on some maybe like Top Gun or Batman You don't realize how serious of an actor he was if that's all you saw, right?
	Yeah, he was well into apparently look one of the things I know is a Hollywood insider people said the Val Kilmer was a Pain in the arse.
	Which he's had stuff like that so you think about man maybe maybe some other people have gotten bad raps that aren't that maybe he is actually that.
	Yeah all right let's have a look let's have a look at this uh tribute um later we're going to be talking a little bit about the potential for reconciliation in Hollywood Bill Maher and Trump we're going to be talking about the pyramids What's going on with that?
	Did you see that story?
	They're sort of generators.
	It's like a Randall Carlton and Graham Hancock type story.
	We'll be looking at that together.
	And also Isaac's going to reveal just how deep the tendrils of Judaism go into the Hollywood industry and what's happened to irritate poor Kanye West so badly.
	Firstly, there's this tribute to Val Kilmer.
	Hollywood stars have paid tribute to Val Kilmer, who has died at age 65.
	The versatile actor played flying ace Iceman opposite Toad.
	Tom Cruise in Top Gun and Batman in Batman Forever.
	He was also acclaimed for his portrayal of singer Jim Morrison in the biopic The Doors.
	Kilmer's daughter says he died Tuesday in Los Angeles from pneumonia.
	He'd been diagnosed with throat cancer in 2014.
	Kilmer was born in Los Angeles and studied acting at the elite Juilliard School.
	He had his big break in the 1985 spy spoof Top Secret.
	Kilmer was sometimes regarded as a difficult presence on film sets, but said in his memoir that he always put the art first.
	Actors Josh Brolin, Matthew Modine and Josh Gad paid tribute to Kilmer on social media, along with filmmakers Francis Ford Coppola and Michael Mann.
	Brolin called him a smart, challenging, brave, uber-creative firecracker, while Francis Ford Coppola described him as a wonderful person to work with and a joy to know.
	Kilmer dated Cher and married and divorced actor Joanne Wally.
	He survived by their two children, Mercedes and Jack.
	In the end, you're sort of struck by the normalness.
	It's just a man, his children.
	Living and all of that the gossip and the excitement and sort of the hysteria or whether you want to regard in positively or negatively It kind of just melts away.
	Is that what you feel about it?
	Humanity of it.
	I mean, we're all at some point you're gonna have to be faced with death sickness weakness even at the height if you've accomplished all these great things in your life, you're still gonna have to deal with something that Connects our humanity Which is, we can't live forever.
	Yeah, it's like, in a way, I'm starting to feel like this is a post-celebrity moment.
	Let me know what you think about this in the comments and chat.
	People increasingly see the culture as redundant and irrelevant, like when the Oscars was on recently.
	I feel like, what is this for?
	In fact, for me, it really started during the pandemic period when they I don't Criminal or nefarious,
	but just one of those people that was a bit of a big shot here We all are now and I feel like the culture is kind of exhausted with it like, you know We've stuff that I don't have that, you know, I feel like that's where we are Yeah, because if it doesn't have depth you're realizing that people it's just these these false Celebrities, you know, it's not it.
	They don't even have the the work ethic that it's taken for a Val Kilmer to become a I mean, all of his education, his passion for...
	Because I think about even you, people might have only known you from your movies early on that were kind of silly and playful, but they don't know that you are a...
	Well, they would know that if they had focused on the film, Jake, because it was evident in every single scene and every single moment, whether I was stroking a furry wool or voicing Dr. Nefario.
	One thing was clear.
	This is a man who's had a great deal of training.
	Certainly, I'm enjoying this incarnation a lot more as a follower of Jesus Christ and as a refugee from the culture and an apostate against it, because I see that culture primarily in the terms offered to us by Terence McKenna.
	The culture is not not One
	of the biggest and most important things in our country is the people that actually build the country and ensure that everything operates the way that it needs to operate.
	And currently speaking, that population is declining quite significantly because of the stigma that you need to have a college degree puts on people.
	So people usually will go into college, either fail out or, you know, get something useless.
	And then, you know, the people that actually need to build our country are Kind of.
	Nowhere to be found.
	We'll be talking about who actually built the country, as well as who actually built the pyramids.
	And while the Jewish slaves may be taking credit for that, as they do for so much in history, it seems that there may be more to the story of the pyramids than meets the eye.
	Massie, how come you wanted us to look at this pyramid stuff, mate?
	Well, I don't know why Gareth didn't bring...
	I've been waiting two weeks for Gareth to bring it up, and he hasn't.
	Like, what could be more important than the pyramids?
	This is the greatest...
	This is Indiana Jones stuff.
	Actual real-life Indiana Jones story.
	I saw this clip myself and it was talking about the fact that the pyramids may be kind of the outward expression of deep chambers that are converting and maybe even generating energy and I like the idea that prehistory may be loaded with narratives and people that even if you watch that AI scripture thing, giants, angels, demons, dragons, Nephilim, weird cities full of demonic practices, seems to me like somewhere between Genesis and the end of Yeah.
	for there to have been lost civilizations.
	And the idea that who controls history controls the narrative remains a fascinating one.
	And Egypt, I've seen a bunch of stuff online this week as well about memes about hieroglyphs, which are, I suppose, early memes themselves.
	Looking at those weird acorn pinecone images and weird hand positions that are cropping up thousands of years apart.
	So it seems like there may be, and I'll use this word deliberately, submerged, Submerged narratives, pre-Diluvian or anti-Diluvian narratives about humankind and human species prior to the floods.
	Our man Hancock always talks about the Yunga Dryas event, some cataclysm that happened and potentially we lost civilizations for it.
	Let's have a look, shall we, at this pyramid video.
	this pyramid video together and have a look at what the indications and implications of it are.
	Turning to a story that is making headlines around the world, an unprecedented, albeit controversial, new discovery is shedding light on a mystery that dates back millennia, many millennia.
	Italian and Scottish researchers, mainly from the University of Pisa, conducted advanced high-frequency radar mapping under Egypt's famous pyramids.
	They claim to have discovered wells, caverns, and shafts that are more than 2,000 feet underground.
	If accurate, it changes the face of history as we know it.
	Here to talk more about it is Dr.
	Galit Ben-Tobol, an Egyptologist and author of the book, The Messiah Code.
	Hi, Galit.
	They sent some pictures coming from the satellite from space, looking at the surface underground the main pyramid of Giza, the pyramid of the king, the pharaoh Khufu.
	Now, we know back till now that this pyramid was dated to 2600 BC, and what the archaeologists wanted to discover is we have something beneath the soil, beneath the ground of this pyramid.
	So with a technology that I cannot explain because I'm not specializing in this.
	This is an Israeli news channel.
	It's being pointed out to me right now.
	Stay with us.
	The main story today about Elon Musk potentially leaving government in the next few months.
	We're also going to be looking at potential reconciliation between the cultural fissures and strands.
	But my personal belief is them stories about superficial cultural matters, even if they're political ones, are less important than something like this.
	The idea that using modern technology We're discovering literal subterranean tales about potential advanced technology because that in itself was a peripheral narrative.
	The idea that the hieroglyphs and the pyramids themselves alluded to and pointed to advanced civilizations about whom we know little and perhaps we've forgotten much.
	The idea that our interface with sublime, divine, extraterrestrial and even divine entities is an ongoing and significant aspect of our human story.
	Let's watch the rest of this Israeli propaganda, if we can trust them to tell us the truth.
	Specializing in this kind of technology, they managed to get some data from the infrastructure that is beneath the soil, beneath the ground.
	And what they discover is if you want spiral hallways, I don't know how many of them, but that could lead maybe to a hypothesis, a thesis that maybe we have there in ancient technology.
	Wow. Well, people have said this for years, that the Egyptians, you know, knew something.
	I mean, we know that the pyramids are said to be going, aiming toward the Orion Belt, so, you know, We know that they had things that predated modern man.
	So with that, how do they explain it?
	Because they've made AI, they've made renderings, and you're seeing cylinders in Q. It looks like a battery or a generator or some kind of solar energy.
	It looks like an ancient generator.
	But we have to say that they reconstructed from the data they collected from the photographs that they had from the satellite from space.
	So the reconstruction with a 3D model with AI and all the newest technology that we have, it doesn't mean that But this is exactly what they saw.
	It means that the AI, the intelligence, reconstructed what they think they saw beneath the soil.
	But I have to say that the pyramid and the mystery of the pyramid, why they were built, some scholars will say that they were meant to be for tombs, the tombs of the first pharaohs, but many years, I think for the last years, people are starting to doubt that.
	Whether it was really the purpose of the tomb, or maybe the tomb was maybe a secondary use, or maybe not at all.
	And why is that?
	Also because the pyramids themselves, not only because they were pointed to the stars, but they were covered, especially the top part of the pyramid was covered with gold.
	Really? So when we think about the solar energy of today, how we are using the solar energy, You know, to heat and to do many things, you know, it's a whole energy.
	So maybe the ancient Egyptians used the same energy.
	Now, if we are willing to think that the ancient civilizations were not so primitive, And maybe they knew things that we also are discovering them today.
	And maybe the history is not a linear history, but goes more in how we call it spiral history.
	So maybe this ancient civilization, whether it was the ancient Egyptian or even a prior civilization to the ancient Egyptian, used the solar energy or a different kind of energy that we are not aware of it today.
	We have to open this question.
	Right. All right, we have 20 seconds.
	Say it quickly because the meaning of the word pyramid.
	Okay, the meaning of the word pyramid in ancient Egyptian means the pillar.
	Wow. If it's the pillar, when we see the shape of a pyramid, we don't see a pillar.
	We see a shape of a pyramid.
	So where is the pillar?
	So if it was for technology, maybe it was a kind of, if you want, a pillar of light, a pillar of fire, and maybe this is the pillar of fire from the story of Exodus.
	Wow. Okay, that'll be saved for another day.
	How I was going to explain the story of Exodus.
	Save it for next time.
	Thank you very much.
	I feel in general, the cynicism, I think Yeah,
	And do you think that there's a point where if you were to explore this story, you have to start encountering mystery or at least power that's so awesome that it amounts to a kind of supernatural power?
	I mean, that's like, it's wonder itself, isn't it?
	Seeing something like this.
	Like, we have, everything's been explained to us now, and finally we've got something which is We thought we'd explained, and now we've got this mad stuff going on underground.
	So yeah, that awe is what draws me to it.
	But who knows?
	I don't know what they are.
	I wonder what you guys think they are.
	What does everyone think?
	Because they're saying it's a possible power station.
	Because to me, they just look like springs underneath the pyramid.
	When people say that it's potentially a power station, even that is an attempt, I think, to tether it in something manageable that we can appreciate and understand.
	Because when I think that 90% of the known universe is dark matter and dark energy, it means that we're operating within such a limited purview of our understanding of reality that...
	All of our speculation is bounded on either side by limits that mean we can't even start to contemplate what the true nature of reality might be.
	And even when you look at something like this, where something as familiar and as ancient as the pyramids is reviewed and we're forced to bring to bear on our former understanding the possibility that it has other aspects to it, we immediately try to frame it as,
	um, there must be a rational reason, it must be like giant batteries, oh, there must be storehouses, This is Yeah,
	I mean, I think if you have real power under there, if there is some sort of technology, somebody would want to control it and keep it to themselves.
	Ultimately, it's all about control.
	Power is hidden.
	Who has all the power?
	And so ultimately, I think as Christians, we want to surrender it all.
	We're saying, we don't want it.
	We want to give it all to the only one who can do the best things with it, and we want to surrender our lives to Jesus.
	It's like Christianity, just surrender, surrender, surrender, but everything in the world's saying, I want to know more, I want to control it, and power is ultimately trying to control things.
	Yeah, and part of that control, I think, is contingent on stripping away the mystery and stripping away the potential for authority that goes beyond the human.
	If all that there really is is different types of human authority based on rational discernment, then power goes to those that can dominate, because there is no supreme power.
	And it just seems so interesting to me that the defining principle of Christianity is maximum power, the power of God, is used in sacrifice to the weakest and most vulnerable.
	That's sort of the I don't know.
	For me, my own Christianity is not rational.
	It's sort of a felt inward overwhelm meeting with a kind of extraordinary experience.
	I'm undermining it by keep holding him up.
	I'm going to place him down here.
	Just keep an eye on Isaac, Jake.
	He's all I ask.
	So it's just extraordinary for me.
	Luke, you've been Christian for a long time.
	Do you feel like we're in some period of revision with cultural artifacts like The Chosen coming out, with people being more and more open to the idea of mystery?
	Yeah, it's funny that you guys say what you're saying right now, because it reminds me of Hebrews 11 1, which is a verse that I memorized recently, which is, faith is the assurance of things hoped for and the conviction of things not yet seen.
	And so when I see things like this pyramid story or any of the crazy stuff going on in the world right now, I'm immediately reminded of the fact that that's the beauty of faith, is that I don't have to know everything, and Why would I need to trust God if I knew everything?
	I don't know everything, and that's the beauty of having him, is that I can rely on him and know that even though I don't understand what this is, it's really confusing, I can trust that he's got it taken care of, and the word says that he's coming back quickly, and that is what I can rejoice in as a Christian.
	So that's where my head goes with that.
	Yeah, and I like that sort of the book of Hebrews in a general way seems like an attempt to provide cartilage for new believers back to the Thank you.
	of breaking out of what restrictions the Old Testament put in place while still not feeling like a heretic, that we are dealing with an ongoing covenant with God that's being adjusted and adapted in the present with us.
	And when you're dealing with something as mysterious as consciousness, Consciousness itself.
	Like, you know when you look at something like the Garden of Eden and you think, it can't be that, it's too childish, like just one man and a woman in a garden getting tempted by a snake.
	You do realise at some point the art, what Is the origin of humankind.
	What happened?
	You know that, because when you even just like as a little kid contemplate your own navel literally and where your navel leads through the navel of your parents and their parents and their parents and their parents to presumably some single ancestor you recognize the limitations of biology and anthropology and sociology and everything really that in the end we are tethered to a mystery you are regarding a mystery from a position of the mysterious and in the end that's all that's available to me is And so much of our show that we talk about is fractions in politics,
	mudslinging, the Dems hating on the Republicans, the Republicans hating on the Dems, the Christians hating on Jews, everyone hating on Muslims.
	And you feel like, well really man, at some point or another we're going to have to mark out at least a different kind of territory, otherwise we're participating in this swirl of senseless rationalism and negativity.
	I'm looking over there at that part of the room, but I'm not assuming that any of you are.
	I'm not trying to blame anybody for this.
	So you guys aren't interested, Luke, in what they are then, under that?
	Oh, I'm definitely interested.
	I mean, I would love to know what it is.
	Sadly, the first thing that came to my mind as we're playing this video is, If this was 30 years ago and I was seeing something like this, I probably would get in bed and not be able to go to sleep, but because I'm so desensitized to the dopamine of social media, I'm like, damn, that's crazy.
	Anyway, on to the next thing.
	Like, that's literally what my brain thinks.
	But no, I absolutely would want to know what it is, for sure.
	You're not allowed to dig around the pyramids, so you're not allowed to climb the pyramids, graham hancock's climbed them a few times but yeah you're not allowed to dig around the pyramids at all so we probably won't ever know unless trump signs an executive order to take the pyramids and get down there for america that's what he needs to do make these pyramids american again yeah like if
	you're gonna have greenland the panama canal just have them pyramids take them have the alps the pyramids it is interesting because of course that like no digging thing that would be practically um defined wouldn't it there is oh you can't dig because you can't mess with it because it's a world heritage site it's a massive mirror like same with something like stonehenge in our country and
	Make sure you tune in next week.
	it's like weird literally weird I suppose connected in invisible ways that's what that Anglo-Saxon word means But whenever there is something that's beyond our understanding, we race to fill in that gap.
	And I like your point as well, Luke, that now, like, you know, like, I sometimes think, wow, X is still happening when I'm not looking at it.
	And, like, there's just that continual stream of, like, Kanye West is releasing an album called White Rape and N-Word Cock.
	Elon Musk is leaving.
	Donald Trump said this.
	Kid Rock's in the White Album.
	It's just, oh, my God, I can't take it anymore.
	Give me something.
	Give me some relationship of eternity, just so I can relax for a second, man.
	can't bloody can't take it anymore all right guys we have a little uh should i play a bit more what do you think we should do now do you want to look at a bit of trailer see of five uh for season five excuse me for the chosen do you want to uh yield the floor to isaac talking about the decline of labor force do you want to continue with this pyramids thing or do we just simply want to look at justin bieber for his Presumably being on drugs.
	I've got to reach out to you, Justin, man.
	It seems to me that he might be on actual drugs.
	Has anyone got a strong view?
	You're going to be surprised.
	What's that?
	Do The Chosen.
	The Chosen?
	Yeah. You want to look at The Chosen?
	Massie, Luke, have you got any strong views on where we go now?
	We've got quite a lot coming up.
	We've still got to look at Bill Maher and Trump's reconciliatory moment.
	We've already had a little look at Ukraine.
	I can talk about the Dojo all day long.
	And Elon Musk's departure from government.
	Any strong views over there, guys?
	I want to see some Justin Bieber.
	I think we've done enough Bible.
	Yeah, come on!
	Atheists, it's not nice.
	It's not nice to see that kind of faithlessness between them.
	See, we've got a really well-balanced team.
	You might look on the surface and think, that's just white men.
	Oh no, there's variety, there's diversity.
	We've got mostly good, honest, grounded Christians, but then a very, very untrustworthy Jew and atheist.
	Sort of making a real mark in this production.
	Let's have a look at Justin Bieber, who Luke says may be experiencing some pharmacological phenomena.
	music
	Yeah, I would say Justin Bieber might be on drugs based on his relationship with that carpet and the sounds in the background.
	Justin, he's a follower of our Lord, isn't he Luke?
	He is, yeah.
	He is a believer.
	He still talks about Jesus regularly on social media and I just saw this over the last week.
	I've been seeing these clips kind of going around and it's sad because he's clearly going through a lot emotionally and he's been in that scene for a long time and I think that you probably could speak to it a little bit just because you yourself have been a part of that scene as well.
	But yeah, he's clearly going through some stuff right now.
	I met him at the Grammys when I was with Katy Perry and we were like, oh, let's adopt him.
	Let's adopt him.
	And I was like, so I think I posted something on social media.
	We're keeping this kid and all of his subsidiary rights.
	Then I realised that actually...
	Did he?
	He was probably exploiting him in a much more tangible way.
	And yeah, he's an interesting phenomena, isn't he?
	Because it's sort of that you can make a case that he's the first modern celebrity, in some senses, that he was a cult, a social media phenomena before entering into the culture and completely dominating that.
	And like, look at so many, like so many people who've been through the machinery of celebrity, he ain't looking well now.
	But like, the other alternative is Val Kilmer like who in a way massive movie star in some regards, but just a journeyman of the entertainment industry still just Spills out at the arse end of life, just with a few accolades and some broken children.
	I don't mean to say that in a disparaging way about Val Kilmer, just to say that the reverence and worship of celebrity by itself and by its own definition is idolatry.
	And idolatry always just leads to despair, whether you are the idol yourself or a participant in it.
	That's what I feel about it.
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	Okay, now we are in a fractured and fissured Trump is meeting Bill Maher!
	Does this mean the culture war is at an end?
	I always look first and foremost to Kid Rock when it comes to brokering both domestic and international peace.
	And it is, of course, Kid Rock whose intervention means that Bill Maher and Donald Trump will be meeting.
	Is that a conversation you're going to watch?
	Let me know in the comments and the chat.
	We learned about this when Chris Como and Bill Maher chatted on Bill Maher's podcast, which I've been on once, I think.
	Anyway, once.
	I must have seen that movie twice.
	You know what's great about you, English?
	Octopussy. Man, I must have seen that movie twice!
	Yes. Here's a piece of that conversation.
	It's nice to know that Kid Rock, as well as making accessible hip-hop rock tracks and shooting up Bud Light cans, is able to broker significant interviews too.
	You're going to meet with the president.
	I am?
	So Kid Rock makes it happen.
	What do you think has been the response so far?
	What do you think it will be and why are you doing it?
	Which I'm totally for, by the way, and I love it.
	I get it.
	Well, I'm doing it because, first of all, it was presented as...
	A dare?
	Not a dare.
	No, just like, maybe this is a beginning to heal America.
	Bill Maher there.
	No, no, not a dare.
	No, no, it was truth, not dare.
	Is Bill Maher sort of still in the hock and capture in his L.A. place of the liberal elites who, whilst their power may be broadly eroding, still maintain significant control over media?
	Because I don't think Chris Comer really thought he was a dare.
	No, I don't have some sort of complex where I think I can heal America.
	I bet he does a bit, because otherwise he wouldn't say that.
	I can't.
	I can, though.
	Deep down, I can.
	Okay, let's get that clear.
	I can't heal America.
	There, I've said it.
	I can't.
	Clear. I'm not going to be healing America.
	But if two guys who've been...
	Chris Cuomo looks pretty buff, don't he, in that chair, all muscular, and Bill Maher looks like he's sort of tumbling into a near-Gollum-like pose and posture in his own equally-sized armchair.
	I'm gonna go on that podcast again, and I'm gonna dazzle people with my posture.
	...
	at each other for so long.
	I mean, it's kind of a Nixon to China thing.
	I have the credential.
	There was nobody who was harder on Trump.
	Or more prescient about the fact that he wasn't going to leave office voluntarily than I was.
	Bill Maher's funny, isn't he?
	There was no one, just let me scan my memory banks, no one that was harder on Trump and more prescient than, wait for it, drumroll, me.
	But I can heal America.
	I feel like I have the credentials.
	But they also respect me.
	Because I'm honest about the woke.
	I'm also the most honest man in America.
	More honest than anyone else.
	Trained to crazy town.
	And I don't shrink from that, and I've also...
	Don't shrink?
	I'm not a shrinker.
	I like Bill Maher.
	I've been on his show a bunch of times, and he's a really, actually very lovely, sweet person.
	He's taking himself quite seriously in this conversation, isn't he?
	Lost a lot of fans.
	For that.
	The woke people have left the building, and I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
	But it does give you a certain credibility.
	I'm glad Chris Cuomo shat his legs a bit.
	So, I just think to meet somebody...
	First of all, it's an honour to be invited to the White House.
	Yes, it is.
	And I've already had a couple of people who...
	I said to them, you know, I'm just going to take it as a backhanded compliment that you glide right past The idea that little Bill Maher from Rivervale, New Jersey Just a humble kid from the suburbs was invited for a private dinner to the White House You glide right past that to how dare you talk to him easy and that you're not impressed by it at all I'm impressed by it a lot I'm impressed the fuck out of it.
	I get to go to the White House and And yes, that is the structure of this dinner, is just let's talk.
	Let's talk to each other face to face.
	Let's stop shouting from 3,000 miles away.
	So if they expect me to be leaving in a MAGA hat, they're going to be very disappointed, but I know they don't.
	And I think it's going to be, you know, look, it probably will accomplish very little, but you got to try, man.
	You got to try.
	I love it.
	You know, Kanye, Bill Maher.
	Thank you very much.
	Appreciate you.
	Love being with you, bud.
	Yeah, this was so much fun!
	And I love that you're going.
	I think it's graced.
	For exactly that.
	It is graced, isn't it?
	100%. Yes!
	And I will celebrate it when it happens.
	Great. I appreciate that.
	Let me know in the comments and chat whether you think this will move the needle, whether Bill Maher and Trump can somehow broker a kind of cultural resolution.
	Here's Trump's post.
	I got a call from a very good guy, a friend of mine, Kid Rock, asking me whether or not it would be possible for me to meet in the White House with Bill Maher, a man who has been unjustifiably critical of anything or anyone.
	Trump! I really didn't like the idea much, and I don't like it much now, but I thought it would be interesting.
	The problem is, no matter how much he likes your favourite president, ME!
	He will publicly proclaim what a terrible guy I am, etc.
	Very much like the Democrats at my recent address to the Joint Session of Congress, where I stated correctly that no matter what I said or did, they wouldn't stand, they wouldn't applaud, they wouldn't smile or laugh, and certainly wouldn't be in any way NICE!
	Who knows though, maybe I'll be proven wrong.
	In any event, I'm doing a favour for a friend.
	It's pretty amazing that Trump and Bill Maher are having a conversation and it's as a favour to Kid Rock.
	I mean, where are we now?
	What is this?
	What is reality?
	I look forward to meeting with Bill Maher and Kid Rock, and I believe even the legendary Dana White will be present.
	It might be fun, or it might not, but you will be first to know.
	There you go, Donald Trump in his customary manner, speaking plainly, directly to the audience that love him, and greeting him as a kind of messianic figure, as well as a political one.
	Are these conversations valuable and important?
	Necessary stations on a return to a united America?
	Has America ever been united or has it always been divided by forms of division, firstly against the British, then the North versus the South?
	And maybe secession, federalisation, subsidiarity are the answer when you have this much cultural tension.
	Is there an agreed upon America that we're all fighting for, whether we're on the left or the right, Christian, Muslim, atheist or Jew?
	Or is the era of their nation about to come to an end?
	Certainly, I often think it might be fairer and more just if we all had more access to the levers of power, the ability to control our communities and our resources, and the ability to express ourselves culturally in alignment with our own faith in God.
	But that's just what I think.
	Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments?
	You did acknowledge that you did go to one of these freak-offs That's a joke!
	That's a joke!
	According to reports.
	There's no reports, that's a joke!
	Okay, a joke.
	You called it an enforced holiday and you can't say no to them.
	That was a joke?
	That was when I, at the time, I did a movie with Diddy and at the time I was doing Junk It and one of the things...
	When was this?
	What year?
	I don't know, I'm not good with numbers.
	It was a long time ago.
	But you know, I did get him to the Greek.
	I can't remember.
	I put Puff Daddy's in that film.
	I want you to go to London and pick him up.
	Then bring him back here for the show at the Greek.
	Can you handle it?
	Definitely. Doesn't it make sense that we would stay here and have the time of your life?
	Your job is to control the artist.
	If he's too messed up, you hit him with this adrenaline needle.
	I need you to put this into...
	What are you doing?
	You're in the middle of the airport!
	If he wants you to put the candy in the jar, you put the candy in the jar.
	Hurry up!
	It's not meant to be a hobby.
	At a time, when I'd done that movie, went to Vegas for a night, watched a boxing match, Manny Pacquiao, Ricky Hatton, a British boxer.
	It was pretty brutal if you're a Ricky Hatton fan.
	Anyway, like at the time, I made a bunch of jokes about that.
	I wrote about it in my book, you know, made content about it, probably did stand-up comedy about it.
	That's what I've always done.
	I always do, like, the reason I suppose I would have talked about Christianity openly, explicitly, and maybe, you know, candidly, is because I'm a comedian and a communicator.
	is what I'm going to talk about.
	You said you were married to Katy Perry at the time.
	Yes. Okay, and that you left at 7 o'clock.
	You did not stay.
	You talked to one guy and you got out.
	You did...
	It's...
	Am I right?
	Am my research wrong?
	Yes, and your research isn't wrong, it's drawn from a variety of resources that are being conflated.
	One is an ex-post where I said something like, I went to a freakout and I didn't even get a refund, like some sort of joke that I made.
	Another bit of the information is from a press junket, like sort of contemporaneously.
	So that, you know, for the purposes of simplicity and candour, At the time that I was making a movie with Puffy, I went to Vegas to see that boxing match and he invited everyone in the cast to his famous, notorious white parties.
	Now I made a joke about it.
	What did I say?
	Like I sort of, you know, like, you know, after all this came out in the media.
	I made out some, what did I kind of say, like I went to a freak-off party and I had to fry you.
	And in the end I had to freak myself off.
	That's what it was.
	I was on my own and I had to freak myself off.
	So that was the joke that I made.
	But I recognise that this, you know, allegations are coming out every day about a whole host of famous people.
	This is what I think is interesting, Sean.
	There are some people where it appears like there's a media appetite to not report on stories.
	And there are some people where it seems like the media are really working very hard to report on stories.
	You actually said people in Hollywood are terrified of being exposed for their sins.
	That statement got my attention.
	Well, I reckon, probably, because there's a kind of, it seems like there's been a normalisation.
	Look, on one hand we have hedonism, epicureanism, the revelling in pleasure.
	I was a very promiscuous person.
	I was sleeping around with anyone who wanted to.
	Not in an institutionalised way, in a kind of meeting people in bars, meeting people after shows, meeting people all the time, waitresses, strip clubs, you know.
	Like, I was a pretty promiscuous person.
	I really enjoyed it.
	You've been outspoken about it.
	Yeah, I mean, in a way, that's why.
	Well, I've kind of thought the point was of becoming famous.
	When I was a little kid growing up in Grey's, I'm like, why do you want to be famous?
	Because I want to meet like a lot of women and have a bunch of money.
	I'm growing up in a normal blue collar background.
	I want to be rich and I want to sleep around.
	And guess what?
	When you're famous, it's really, really easy to meet women.
	It's really easy.
	I didn't have that problem.
	And a lot of things are kind of bypassed the kind of normal procedures that you would go through of charming numerous dates, all of those things.
	But if you're also actually quite charming and enthusiastic, like You know, all of the talk shows I was on.
	Is it hard to be faithful now?
	No. Not at all?
	Absolutely not, because we are all, Sean, looking for something else.
	And there is only one bread that will fulfill you.
	It's perfectly natural, of course, to be attracted to people.
	Did you ever wake up the morning after the night before and say, I can't live like this?
	Any drug addict knows that feeling.
	Any hedonist knows that feeling.
	That's the conscience that I was telling you about.
	Not only the conscience, the emptiness.
	Well, thank you very much, all of you, for joining us today.
	Isaac, I'm so sorry we didn't have time for your story, but perhaps you can console yourself with the fact that your people have got complete control over the American government.
	As well as Hollywood.
	I hope that's some sort of conciliation.
	Totally. And the banks.
	And the banks.
	Mainly the banks.
	Don't forget the banks.
	Don't forget the banks.
	You've got those as well.
	Jake, thanks very much for some great insights and some great beauty as always.
	I appreciate that.
	And thank you, Luke and Massey, for joining us.
	Remember, we will be back next Monday with a live-streamed show.
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	Consider yourself raided.
	Not like that.
	We've been in enough trouble because of things of that nature.
	Thanks very much for joining us this week.
	We'll see you next week.
	Not for more of the same, but for more of the different.
	Until then, if you can, stay free.
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