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Hello there, you awakening wonders, and welcome to Stay Free with Russell Brand.
We got Dr.
Asim Malhotra on the show talking about his film First Do No Farm.
It's a brilliant film that attacks the pharmaceutical industry.
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Like, listen to this. Joy Reid says she wants to see someone get up there and give a knuckle sandwich to Donald Trump rather than his usual brand of sandwich, which is golf bullets or slopey roof led.
And so I think that the people who want the fistfight are the base of the Democratic Party.
Democrats want to see someone get up there...
And give a knuckle sandwich to Donald Trump.
That's what they want. But that is not...
It's funny, isn't it?
Like, it comes down to that kind of vulgar, vulgar, that kind of language, that kind of common tongue.
In the end, is what you're left with.
Tucker Carlson has released new footage from Butler.
I'll tell you what, this is fascinating.
You actually see that little thin veal calf dude slithering across the roof like a serpent.
Yeah, look. There he is.
Because we have millions and millions of people in our country that should be here.
And look what happened to our country.
Probably 20 million people.
And you know, that's a little bit old that you're a fat kid.
Oh my God!
Damn!
Fucking maggots!
I need an ambulance for the cops!
Finally, uh, the parents!
Oh my God! Oh my God!
I believe Tucker Carlson had a team embedded in the Trump campaign on that day.
That footage is going to go viral, I imagine, and even in the fast-moving blizzard of endless information, that's the kind of thing that surely will have some kind of impact.
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Are the party of war?
Are the party of big corporations?
Used to be the Republican Party.
Seems that it's the Democrat Party now during the Iraq war.
Didn't think that George W. Bush was a great guy.
Now, Kamala Harris, it seems to me, is a cipher for the same interest that George W. Bush was.
Let me know in the comments and chat if you'd agree with that.
Here's Joe Rogan saying that Bobby Kennedy cleaning up health will be the best thing that could happen for Americans.
Which is totally illegal.
What do you think about RFK's possibly getting in to investigate all that stuff?
I think it would be one of the best things for the health of the people in the United States.
If you really care about health, I think there's a lot of us, and it was me at one point in time, and I've gotten more educated about it, a lot of us are very ignorant about what we're doing to our bodies with food and with medications.
And I don't think we're being told the truth.
And I think there's a reason why other countries, multiple other countries, have banned food elements, food ingredients that we use all the time.
These red dyes. They had all these health experts testify, and they were all We've been hammering this point over and over again.
They were talking about the food additives.
They were talking about glyphosate and how fucking dangerous glyphosate is and like an enormous percentage of people show traces of glyphosate in their blood.
We're getting it through all kinds of vegetables.
It's ubiquitously sprayed on monocrop agriculture crops.
We're all just consuming these poisons.
There's no reason to have fluoride in the water.
There's fucking no reason.
We've been putting fluoride in the water.
Oh, keep your teeth clean.
You don't want cavities.
It doesn't make any sense.
And we've been doing it forever.
I actually don't want cavities, as a matter of fact, but fluoride does cause plaque to form in your brain, I heard.
Alright guys, we're gonna join Dr.
Asim Malhotra now to talk about his film, First Do No Farm.
If you're on Awaken Wonder, our interview with Bobby Kennedy is already up for you to watch on Locals right now, as well as the footage of me enjoying the Museum of the Bible in Washington.
And Russell Brand's Stand Up Breakdown.
That's also up there. There's a whole lot of stuff and some exciting things coming soon.
A new thing. I can't even tell you. I want to tell you what it's called, but I don't want to tell you yet.
The first episode, though, of this wonderful new thing, which will usually be streamed live, is with Tucker Carlson.
Tucker, as you've never seen him before.
So become an awake and wonder right now.
But before that, or actually simultaneous to it, here is my conversation with Dr.
Asim Malhotra.
See you in a second. Asim Mel Hodger, thank you so much for joining us and congratulations on your new film.
First, Do No Farm.
Thank you, Russell. It was a historic day, I think, yesterday.
Well, let's hope it becomes a historic day.
It's a great time for you to come out hard against Big Pharma.
I know this is... I want to firstly congratulate you on the incredible work you've done.
I feel like when we first communicated, you were almost still primarily a doctor.
Now you're a filmmaker, an activist.
You are very much established among the firmament of significant voices that oppose Big Pharma and their corruption.
And now with this film, you have created an object that all of us can now learn from and We're good to go.
What an exciting time for you.
In spite of the fact that most of the stuff you talk about is pretty difficult to withstand and bear, and the circumstances that you entered into this space are definitely rather tragic, at this point you must at least be considering that there have been many successes that have grown out of it.
Thanks, Russell. Yeah, to be honest, as I said in my intro yesterday for the audience that gathered there, that I honestly just see myself as a medium for a message in the sum of my influences.
And a lot of those influential people and people who have been very supportive in this movement that I've been part of were all there yesterday.
I think what's really interesting though, Russell, as well, before we get into the content of the film, you know, we had some very big names that turned up and have already started Sharing social media posts and really positive, amazing reviews of the film from the likes of, you know, Britain's leading female film director for the last 10 years, Gurinder Chadha, who you may be familiar with some of her work, Bend It Like Beckham.
Wow. We had Antia Turner, we had Annabelle Croft, we had Holly Candy, we had Pat Cash.
You know, we've got people across, you know, the spectrum of even media.
And at the moment, Russell, extraordinary, a complete media blackout on this.
And the people who are helping us with the PR side and one of the best PR, you know, organizations In the country, they are shocked.
They're wondering what the heck is going on.
But I will tell you this, Russell, I've been in this position before.
Always think outside the box.
We're a global community.
We have different media to get the information out.
We have a huge impact, an incredible impact, if you like, through your channel and what you do.
But what I've done is, in the next few hours, I've been told that this is going to hit the mainstream news of India, the largest The most popular country in the world, their mainstream media is going to do a very positive take because the head of the Indian Press Association was at the film yesterday.
So I think if anything, you know, at the very least it will embarrass the British press.
I think they need to be reporting on it because this is, in my view, the most important Documentary that really goes in-depth into the root cause behind the NHS crisis, behind the pandemic of chronic disease.
And as you know very well, Russell, this all comes down to ultimately the excesses of corporate capitalism and also how it is in the culture of human beings where people are afraid to speak out.
I won't name these people because I have a relationship with them in terms of a medical setting, but I would say to you, and you can figure this out, Three of the most famous influential women in the world were due to come to the screening yesterday.
And in the last few days, last few weeks, they all pulled out because they were scared of getting smeared by the mainstream media.
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I can understand why people have that fear.
Let's face it, what's been created is a kind of interconnected set of interests that are able to control the information space.
When you consider something like the Kamala Harris-Oprah Winfrey interview and the cavalcade of stars that came out, it struck me as odd that with the Diddy allegations, with the Epstein revelations, with our sense that celebrity itself is a somewhat corrupted space, that it still maintains a degree of merit and value within the milieu that it feeds into.
The challenge comes when, like you Asim, you try to see if you can cross-pollinate these two very distinct worlds.
I'm impressed that in your film, There you have Bobby Kennedy, who's amazing, Callie Means, who I just adore, Jay Bhattacharya, an incredible man, and Vandana Shiva, who I consider to be borderline saintly, as a matter of fact.
And what I believe is emerging is a kind of new cultural space that is allowing, at least
in the minds of many, that celebrity world to atrophy.
In a way, I'm sort of surprised that you even bothered to hold a Leicester Square premiere
with its allusions to that former world and what that once meant.
I've attended Leicester Square premieres, of course, and I find it interesting myself
when I aspire to, allude to, or am still seduced by the artefacts of a culture that even your
anecdotal beginning to our conversation demonstrates is entirely co-opted.
The three women that couldn't come, they can't come because of the power of big pharma and other corporate media interests.
The reason it's not been promoted yet is because of the power of pharma.
There might be individual editors who go, no, I don't want to do this because I see Malhotra as a crank and a crackpot.
That's the reason why we're not covering this film.
The reason we're reporting these stories on Russell Brand is because these are legitimate and necessary stories.
They don't even know what they're participating in.
Perhaps if they did know, they wouldn't participate in it so confidently.
But when you look at what's covered in your film...
Which ultimately were people to take the contents of your film and we'll look at the trailer in a minute seriously and I would urge you to take the contents of your film very seriously if you're watching or listening to this.
You would have to conclude that the pharmaceutical industry globally not just in the United States of America but in our country it requires such a significant investigation and reckoning that it would be unrecognisable were justice done by the end.
Is that a fair assertion I seem?
Absolutely, Russell, 100%.
It's interesting you also raise a point about, you know, some people or editors saying, oh, you can't, you know, we can't do anything on this movie, even though, you know, we've got some of the most credible experts in the world, from the editor of the former editor of BMJ, a giant in medical publishing, saying you cannot...
Trust what's in the medical literature or implying that.
You have no skepticism around it.
Extraordinary stuff. But, you know, it's interesting about the crank, crackpot stuff, because one very well-known TV presenter who came yesterday, and good on her, she said, you know, she had some discussion with a show that she was doing this morning.
And she said to the people, listen, I can't have the chat tonight because I'm going to see Malhotra's premiere.
And the person who spoke to her is also another well-known TV presenter, said, what do you mean?
Aseemal Hotra, the conspiracist.
But this presenter who was coming to the film was so disgusted, she said, you know what?
I'm not doing your show tomorrow.
And basically gave the proverbial two fingers to them, so good on her.
But where does this come from?
Is this new? Russell, it's not new.
I mean, it was Malcolm X who said, you know, the media can turn, I think, a saint into a demon and a demon into a saint.
Martin Luther King, people, you know, way more influential, who did way greater things than I'm doing.
Again, I'm just a very different message.
You look back through history. A lot of people don't know this.
I said this on the Stephen Bartlett show.
I didn't make the final edit.
But what I said to Stephen is, do you know that Martin Luther King was one of the most hated men in America before he died?
Stephen said he was shocked. He said, no.
Why was that? He said, this is a guy who already had the Nobel Peace Prize.
And the reason he became one of the most hated men in America is that he was one of the first people to speak out against the Vietnam War.
The press turned on him and he started getting accused of treason.
Martin Luther King could deal with that.
That wasn't the issue. What was so damaging to him and sent him to clinical depression was his own friends Russell turned on him because the media started portraying him in that way.
So this is standard, but it tells you that we are living under a form of tyranny And as Jordan Peterson eloquently says, you know, tyranny emerges when people are afraid to say what they think.
When you have something to say, silence is a lie.
Or when everybody lies all the time, the tyranny is complete.
But what's the antidote? The antidote is a truthful message coming from a place of values that resonates with people, that is beyond comprehension, beyond rationality.
And that's what we are doing, Russell, right now.
And I'm still hopeful as we move forward with the ripple effect that eventually we will break the mainstream.
We just have to keep moving forward.
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Dr. Asim Malhotra talks about the pandemic.
He talks about profits.
He talks about fines.
He talks about the stranglehold, the asphyxiation, the suffocation that many people in the public eye experience, whether that's through smearing or fear or fear of social rejection when it comes to people that are still in sort of important celebrity positions that comes along with operating in this space.
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Back to the conversation, Dr.
Asim Malhotra.
In your film, First Do No Farm, how do you demonstrate that health has been commodified and exploited in the last 20 years?
Why has that happened?
How can you prove it?
And is this a phenomena that extends beyond America and into a country like ours where we feel that we have better regulation and we're not so steeped in commodity?
For example, in the UK, you're...
Not as likely to find.
And here's the news presented by Pfizer.
That's not like a sort of a British trope.
So the question is, how has health been commodified and exploited in the last two decades?
How can you prove it? And is it global?
And if it is global, you know, maybe the IPA there, the Indian Press Association, won't be so ebullient as you might anticipate, because I feel like India are pretty tied up into the pharmaceutical industry at this point.
But I'd love to hear your response to that first question, mate.
Yeah, absolutely. So it is a global issue, Russell.
If I summarize it in one line, medical knowledge is under commercial control, but most doctors don't know that.
So we have a pandemic of misinformed doctors and misinformed patients and unwittingly harmed patients based upon a number of factors that are at the roots of why patients are getting information and doctors are getting information From biased and corrupted research.
So, research that's funded because it's likely to be profitable, not beneficial to patients.
You know, bias reporting in the media, bias reporting in medical journals, commercial conflicts of interest, and inability of doctors to really engage in informed consent because they don't understand and then communicate health statistics.
You add it all up, it is an absolute mess.
And what does that mean? Essentially, everything, almost everything invariably that hits The consultation with doctor and patient has been corrupted to the degree where side effects, where safety and benefits of drugs are grossly exaggerated.
And we show that through layers through the film.
And at the root of it, Russell, just to put it in very basic terms, is that we have the interests of big pharma and big food, because we cover a lot of the issue around the food industry, too.
are purely there to make money.
Their legal obligation is to lose profit for shareholders, not to look after your health.
But the real scandals are that those who have a responsibility To patients and scientific integrity, namely doctors, academic institutions and medical journals, collude with industry for financial gain and the regulators fail to prevent misconduct from industry.
Why is that? Let me give you some cold hard facts.
Regulator in this country, MHRA, gets 86% of its funding from pharma.
The FDA gets 65% of its funding from pharma.
So those interests which are pathologically self-interested to make money, big corporations, has now infiltrated We're good to go.
It's a piece of legislation.
From now on, although drug companies can develop drugs, they should no longer be allowed to test them themselves.
They have to be independently evaluated.
And if the drugs are really good, Russell, if they do what they claim to do, then they should have no fear for their drugs being independently evaluated.
And of course, everybody loses because you think, hold on, in the short term, of course, big pharma are making money.
But actually, there is no real innovation going on if their business model is fraud and they're not even engaging in developing really good new important drugs.
And we see that. The facts are very clear.
Only about less than 10% of new drugs that have been manufactured in the last two decades are truly clinically significant in terms of better than previous drugs.
Most drugs are copies of old ones.
And probably double the amount of drugs, certainly from some data we've seen, that are innovative, are actually proven to be more harmful.
So what is the conclusion, Russell?
In my view, very clear.
The overall net effect of the pharmaceutical industry on society is a hugely negative one.
Unfortunately, I will say this, and it sounds very controversial, most doctors, first and foremost, I believe, are well-intentioned and won't do the right thing.
They don't realize the information they're getting is being corrupted.
But I think if you look at global health, if you look at what's going on in the UK, what's going on in the US, it's going down the wrong direction.
And that means, for me, the medical professional needs to take a really good look in the mirror and ask them Ask themselves, is our net effect on society as a medical profession positive or negative?
And unfortunately, Russell, at the moment, the evidence suggests that there's a very strong argument to be made that the overall net effect of the medical establishment on society unwittingly is a negative one.
That is pretty shocking stuff.
Yes, it's a shocking conclusion.
I enjoyed the way that you described the various tendrils that amount collectively to a chokehold
over the various opportunities for gatekeeping and clarity, control over academia, control
over big pharma, control over regulatory bodies, control over media. And I also enjoyed your
suggestion that an independent regulatory body, when it comes to medications, new medications,
would stymie the attempt to keep putting out old hits. I was pretty astonished to learn
that by your reckoning, many drugs that are presented as novel are in fact retreads of
old ideas. I mean, I find that pretty appalling when it happens in the entertainment industry.
So a remake of that film, Arthur Aside, that needed remaking.
But it seems like we've come up with some new drugs.
Don't just go back to the old drugs of yesteryear, particularly as all of us have had to become amateur pharmacologists when it comes to the condemnation of white-label medications that may have been effective during the pandemic period, but their efficacy had to be diminished, negated, overruled in order for the vaccine.
The mRNA experiment to continue, as was plainly required, notably at least for profit, but there may be yet more behind that story.
Now, you say that big pharma has infiltrated everything.
Aspect of the healthcare system.
In the US, such things are kind of obvious.
It's an explicitly for-profit model.
Front and centre are all these big pharma drugs.
Every commercial break, every news show, every aisle.
It's entered into the great paradise for consumerism, America, in an extremely vivid, lurid and obvious way.
But even when you're in a hospital in our country, it's shocking to see how...
How evident private interests are in an ordinary hospital ward.
You would sort of look at PPE equipment, tissues, sheets, catering, like it's just crept in like a fog, a suffocating fog, with the obvious attempt to, it seems to me, strangulate public medicine and public healthcare.
How is it that even in a country like the UK, where, you know, when in our country you hear about An MP took a reported £4,000 in order to...
There's always such low numbers of money in the UK. In America, it's like they all own stocks and shares in Pfizer and Moderna.
Even though we had those revolving door stories about government officials taking jobs at Moderna.
Even though we had massive 10-year schemes of investment into Moderna.
Even though in the EU we had the peculiar relationship between Ursula von der Leyen and Albert Baller, even though there are sort of outside of America vivid demonstrations of obvious pharmaceutical corruption, not to mention the pre-pandemic period where it was commonplace and understood whether it was the Sackler family and the opioid crisis or the numerous times that Johnson& Johnson and Pfizer have had to settle out of court for enormous sums of money because of medical negligence or pharmacological ineptitude, It's somehow, during the pandemic period, they once again, through some marketing endeavour that I still am baffled by, managed to reframe themselves as a beneficial, you know, net positive to gain, say, your earlier assertion when it comes to the wellbeing of the planet's population.
How have they infiltrated every aspect of the healthcare?
How has that happened?
What's the proof of that?
Yeah, so it's, I mean, it's increasing both visible and invisible power over time, Russell.
And I think, you know, they have done it because their primary interest is obviously to make profit for their shareholders from a drug company's perspective.
And I got this pretty much verbatim from the CEO of AstraZeneca when I debated him in the Cambridge University Union 2019.
And the motion put forward is why I was opposed.
I was asked by the BMDA, the British Medical Journal, to be part of a team of three people to oppose the motion from AstraZeneca.
Which is we need more new drugs.
But what they were effectively saying is we need more people to be taking more drugs.
And what does that mean?
And the ideal scenario, Russell, from them, from a financial perspective, is if they could, they would get our kids or babies on lifelong medication, right, since birth, so that they can make more money.
But what they would do is the next stage of that is not just a recommendation.
If they could, they'd get it mandated.
Yeah. And we've seen news reports only a couple of weeks ago in the Daily Mail Covenant saying that 15-year-old kids to be recommended to take statins to slash heart attack rates.
And I was like, this is absolutely appalling.
This is unbelievable. But this is their pathologically self-interested way.
So the way they do it, Russell, to answer your question, is they do it by changing the law, by influencing politicians, by simultaneously influencing the media.
They also have something in place called opposition fragmentation.
When people basically challenge their, dare I say it, bullshit, they will do everything they can to smear those individuals, suppress that information, because they want to keep the conflict hidden.
They don't want a conflict going to the mainstream.
Because if conflict goes into the mainstream, those people who are speaking for a place of values and truth, they're going to win.
They don't want that to happen.
So they do everything. So, for example, I have been a victim of this for a decade.
The sugar industry went after me in the beginning when I came out in 2008.
12, 13, saying sugar's a major issue and I was called a quack and whatever else.
And of course, eventually, through our first documentary film I made, we managed to influence and bring the sugary drinks tax in because it premiered in the UK Parliament.
So there are ways through this, but this is what they do.
Yeah, it's brilliant. I was unaware of your earlier work with Sugar, even though I'm sure we must have touched on it previously.
You've got some big hitters there in that movie.
I can see how with someone like Callie Means contributing, you could establish the kind of intention to create patience for life, dependency for life.
Bad diets leading to pharmaceutical requirements.
With the contributions of Bobby Kennedy and your earliest astonishing insight into the intention to prescribe statins to teenagers, it's difficult to imagine that you didn't touch on mandated vaccines and increased vaccine programs for children if Bobby Kennedy was a participant.
Recently, Bobby talked about the sort of...
Again, this is a story you can barely talk about.
You might as well sort of wave a swastika around as to say that it appears that there is some evidence that there's a causal relationship between the vaccine program such as it stands in the United States of America.
Let's just confine it to that for now.
And autism. How do you cover a subject like that in your film?
We deliberately, and I'll tell you why, we didn't touch the vaccine issue at all, because we still feel, and I thought, in terms of what's going on, and on a reflection of the talks I've been giving around the world talking about the vaccine issue, is people need to walk before they can run.
So when I give my lectures, and I've given lectures to even completely indoctrinated doctors one way on the COVID vaccine being safe and effective, and I can say this with my hand on my heart, by the end of my talk, Completely changed our view, right?
But I've got there by talking them through the system beforehand.
So for example, John Aenidis, I mentioned briefly in the film, he's cited the Stephen Hawking of medicine, in my view, most cited medical research in Word, professor of medicine and statistics at Stanford.
2006, Russell, he wrote a paper, which is the most cited, downloaded medical research paper in the world.
It was called Why Most...
Medical research findings are false, right?
Richard Horton, editor Langston, 2015, wrote an editorial saying that half of the medical publication may simply be untrue.
Science is taking a turn towards darkness.
Who's going to take the first step to clean the system?
So we have to take people through a journey of understanding the system first.
I think once they get to that, by the end of the film, I think the penny will drop that they should at least ask questions on the vaccine, at the very least.
But one of the people in the film You know, we got a lot of credible people who is an absolute giant in terms of medical credibility and no doctor is going to be able to ignore.
And I think it's going to be very, very hard for the mainstream press to criticize her is the former editor and chief of the BMJ. Fiona, Dr.
Fiona Godley. And she is absolutely, she is very powerful in the film.
And she alludes to the fact that medical, you know, research, what's published in medical journals needs to be treated with skepticism.
And what most doctors don't know, Russell, is that medical journals are businesses and they take millions often from big pharma.
So they have also been captured, Russell.
This is the other issue. So there's no public funding of many of these institutions anymore.
And the reason why that's important is when things were publicly funded, and people can ask about where the money's going to come from in a second, you know, you get...
With, you know, governments in place that are doing their duty for the public, it's there to serve the public, you get greater independence, greater scrutiny, for example.
And over time, what's happened because of political ideology, we've talked about the market functions best if we let it be free, and that means we start commodifying healthcare, education, etc.
You know this very, very well.
Actually, the evidence suggests, forget about ideology for a second, Those institutions, those, I would say, basic rights of human beings, if you like, they then get corroded and corrupted, and then you have basically a health and mental welfare mess, and that's where we're at.
So these are the things that people need to try and understand.
And of course, coming back to one of the counters that may come say, Dr.
Mahaj, I've been asked this in talks before, if you don't get private funding of, say, the regulators in this country for medicines, who's going to fund them?
The government don't have any money.
Russell, the money is there.
It's just in the wrong place.
We're talking about these big corporations who've got maybe a trillion dollars hidden in tax havens.
Not just that. I'm not against people making money doing the right thing.
But their business model is fraud.
So we've got a situation where essentially we are robbing the poor and giving to the rich.
And this needs to change.
Bobby Kennedy said that on day one, in the event that the MAHA, part of the MAGA movement, comes to government, he will begin a top-to-bottom analysis of FDA corruption, of Anthony Fauci's actions, of what went on in the pandemic.
In a sense, the pandemic was the pharmaceutical industry's four-long Christmas, a giant festival
of profit opportunity accompanied by censorship, control of information, smearing of vocal
successful opponents.
It amounted to a bonanza too for governments who are able to legitimately impose authority
that would have previously been unthinkable.
It's into this environment that Dr. Asante.
Asim Malhotra's new movie, First...
Do no farm comes.
Let's have a look at the trailer and discuss whether or not during this post-pandemic period we could have a legitimate conversation about reining in the pharmaceutical industry and its terrifying power.
Between 2003 and 2016, fines imposed on large pharmaceutical companies for fraud and other illegal activities amounted to $33 billion.
You have to do something.
We are considered acceptable collateral damage.
We're talking about many millions of people killed by research fraud in medical science.
Between 40 and 60,000 Americans died.
So this is approximately equal to the number of Americans who died in the Vietnam War, died from taking Vioxx.
We need to apply quite a big dose of skepticism to the medical literature.
They know they might get a million dollars, for example, for publishing the trial.
And that, I don't really see how you can manage that as a conflict of interest.
You are going to be obliterated if you take on this position.
I effectively lost my job.
The thing you care about is, I don't want to lose my memory.
I want to be able to do the things I normally do in life.
That's what Alzheimer's Robson loves.
The FDA is not going to protect doctors and the public and the insurers and Medicare from this deception about the clinical value of this drug.
If you knew, why didn't you do anything?
The patient began to verbalize feelings of killing other people and then himself.
They are now out of control as an entity that is purely there to make money.
A psychopathic entity.
So, in a sense, that film, your film, can function as, if not an opening salvo, a significant strike against the integrity of the pharmaceutical industry, even going beyond what many people will be familiar with, that occupy these and visit these kind of media spaces, the events in particular of the pandemic.
Seems to me that it's what you're talking about is a kind of a fully immersive assessment, the kind of apocryphal, not fully proven, but likely...
Johnson& Johnson, baby talc, potential cancer link stories, the Sackler family, opioids, the various irresponsible promotion of drugs that are known to perhaps not be effective.
In fact, when I look at SSRIs and some of my friends that take them and deviations from them...
Looking at their lists of potential side effects, it seems that that industry too is one that needs some pretty bloody considerable scrutiny.
So what kind of reckoning is required?
Is it a day one reckoning such as Bobby Kennedy is talking about?
Yeah, 100%, Russell.
Enough is enough. I mean, the movie also covers the pandemic of chronic disease and the obesity epidemic.
I mean, that's where I really started my journey to understand what was the root of all of that.
And we've got these new drugs for weight loss now, which are giving, you know, every...
Person under the sun is on this for weight loss is NPIC. And we go into detail and explain how problematic those drugs are.
We've got an Alzheimer's drug that's been approved by a regulator in this country where the clinical evidence shows that for women, and these are two thirds of people who have Alzheimer's disease, actually has a negative effect.
I mean, this is just absolutely criminal what's happening and it needs accountability.
But for me personally as well, I think What was very frustrating is that pre-pandemic, on three occasions, being aware of what was going on and the increasing power of big pharma, I tried to call for public inquiries.
And I got this at the time in the mainstream media.
I got it through the Mail Online and the BBC, BBC News.
In a separate year, I got it through The Guardian.
And then I got it to the front page of the I newspaper when I gave a talk in the European Parliament with somebody who attended the film yesterday, by the way, just to give you an idea of the credibility of the The people that were there and the feedback.
The former, the past president of the Royal College of Physicians and the personal physician to the royal household, Sir Richard Thompson, who emailed me today and said, what a marvellous film.
You know, so our route through this is got to be strategic as well.
Disseminate the information to as many people as possible.
Taking it to Capitol Hill on Thursday.
Senator Ron Johnson has seen it.
He loves it. And we're hosting for policy.
We've already got, you know, scores of policymakers and experts coming to that point.
It's been approved to be, you know, screened in the US Senate and then hopefully hit America hard, you know, through the mainstream and get as many people as possible watching this.
And that's how we change things.
That's how we change the system, Russell.
Yeah, it's just as visible as Gandhi would say.
Yes, it's difficult to dispute that.
The trailer starts with the assertion of the significant number that the pharmaceutical industry have paid out in fines.
Even when they've captured their own regulatory bodies, even when they have favourable relationships with governments, it's still clearly...
Culpable of such egregious acts that these fines are being doled out.
How is that not having more of an impact?
Yeah, great question. So I think two reasons.
One, not enough mainstream media coverage of it when it happens.
So for example, there is a case which has already been proven that a cardiologist from the Netherlands called Dan Poldemans had fabricated data on scores of research articles on the use of a very specific indication, beta blocker drugs that slow the heart rate down, for people undergoing surgery which isn't related to the heart, under the understanding that it's going to improve their outcomes, improve their survival.
It turns out it was completely fraudulent, and an independent analysis later on, when he was fired from his university, found that because of his fraud over a number of years, which influenced European society cardiology guidelines, 8,000 people may have been killed, excess deaths. That's one person, Russell, one person who's been found guilty of fraud.
Peter Wilmshurst, who's a very eminent whistleblower behind even the formation of something called the Committee of Publication Ethics in medical journals, he says, if you take that example and everything else we know in medicine, there's no doubt millions of people have probably been killed by fraud conducted in medical science.
But it's not something that's being constantly talked about in the mainstream.
So that's one issue. The other issue is when these fines happen.
One example is what happened with Vioxx, which John Abramson talks about, an anti-inflammatory drug.
Merck were fined almost $1 billion in 2011 because they hid data showing that it would increase the risk of heart attack and stroke at least two to fourfold.
And 60,000 Americans died as a result of this.
The chief scientist who knew about this and internal emails that came out in the litigation process knew about it when it was being marketed and said, it's a shame about this risk of heart attacks and strokes, but the drug will do well and we do well.
He got a promotion, you know, because ultimately what happens is the cost, this is the cost of business.
They may have been fined a billion dollars in Merck, but they probably made several billion dollars more in profit.
And therefore, still, the overall net effect is positive for them, combined with the fact that there isn't enough mainstream coverage.
So just the cycle continues.
You know, Peter Gershaw, one of the co-founders of the Cochrane Collaboration said many years ago, you know, if crime pays, you commit more crime.
And that's exactly what we're doing.
But Russell, it's not getting better, it's getting worse.
We saw that with the, although we don't cover this, you know, why did we have a mandate for a COVID vaccine introduced at the end of 2021?
By that stage, we knew it wasn't stopping transmission.
By that stage, we knew it was causing serious harm.
Why mandated it at that time?
Why did Sajid Javid come out in November 2021 with this statement?
And this is a time when I went public and tried to overturn and helped to overturn vaccine mandates for healthcare workers.
I thought, there's something fishy going on here.
My intuition said, this is coming from Pfizer.
I didn't have the evidence at the time.
I messaged Sajid Javid.
I have many politicians who come to me for medical advice, and one of them gave me his number.
And I said, Sajid, did this come from Pfizer?
And he basically replied back and said, Asim, I'd rather not talk about this with you.
I will cover this in the COVID inquiry.
Later on, investigative journalists in America uncovered that Pfizer in the summer of 2021 started lobbying behind the scenes by giving money to credible grassroots organizations to say, push the narrative that mandates were necessary.
So really, this is coming from those drug companies.
And what happens is, and we saw this happen with Vioxx and Merck, is when drug companies find out that their product is harmful, they double down on their marketing, Russell.
If that isn't psychopathy, I don't know what is.
It's terrifying. It's terrifying.
It's terrifying that when you think that there's...
Not likely to be objective reporting in mainstream, what we call still mainstream media because of their financial relationships and because of a general fear and attitude around these matters.
I think it's impressive that your film's already had the coverage that it has, given their usual reluctance to cover such matters.
Then when it comes to social media space, again, staying sort of, at least in examples, gleaned from the pandemic, but really all the pandemic did was amplified conditions that were evidently present and matters that you were tackling prior.
You might be aware that, you know, Al Capone and his criminal organisation are having an impact in Chicago.
If you then put them in charge of the entire country, obviously then you're going to see
more beatings and executions and murders and endemic practices that are just institutional,
shall we say.
Zuckerberg admitted that a meta was pressured to censor COVID-19 content, and indeed did.
We know that government agencies in the United Kingdom that had previously been deployed
to crush and control dissent in the Middle East, groups like ISIS terrorist organizations,
the same AI and non-government groups were used to control, de-amplify, shadow ban, censor,
populate comments with bots, with popular commentators that were talking about the pandemic
and issues related to the pandemic.
And now we know that the kind of information that was being censored was true.
The kind of hypocrisy...
That came to the forefront is beautifully explored or at least exposed in Stephen Crowder's recent story about New York City's COVID czar Jay Varmer.
We covered this story earlier in the week.
It's I suppose somewhat fascinating because he was a czar of COVID and he was attending sex parties and stuff and it all becomes pretty lurid.
But there were so many stories of political figures that were making injunctions against ordinary people travelling or making, you know, suggesting mandates or near mandates for the medications or proposing various somewhat...
In retrospect, arbitrary measures when it came to social distancing, lockdown, masks, etc.
This period of ongoing revelation, I think, requires the additional context of a film like yours, First Do No Farm, in order for us to get the idea that this is not a blip.
is not like, you know, because what's being pushed now I notice is, well, you know, people
talk about malinformation and misinformation and how it should be censored, but no one's
going back and saying to Rachel Maddow, and I've just chose that example sort of somewhat
at random and said, hey, that was misinformation when you said if you get the vaccine, it stops
with you. That is also something that could apply to many, many politicians in our country
and in the United States of America. So we also additionally know that the category of
misinformation and malinformation does not objectively mean information that is untrue
or information that could be harmful.
It means information that we do not sanction.
It's such a revelatory period.
And what is revealed is that you cannot trust bureaucracies, you cannot trust the state, you cannot trust the media, you can't trust most of social media.
So I guess we all have an obligation to push your film forward.
And I wonder if you have any comments on the sort of number of times that hypocrisy has been exposed.
And if you saw, for example, the Jay Varma story stroke expose.
Yeah, I did. I mean, I think all these people really are victims of the system.
I honestly genuinely believe, Russell, that, you know, the line between good and evil runs down every human heart.
But what's happening is because of also this economic system, this corporate capture, we also corporatize human beings and they started behaving in ways which take them away from proper good values.
In fact, you know, it's very interesting.
There's a lot of research and I come from, I try and do things from an evidence-based perspective.
My purpose and role in life is to Understand and then spread knowledge to reduce human suffering.
And the research even tells you, it's very interesting, that if you are more spiritual, if you place more value on personal growth, on interconnection with others, giving back to the community, you have significantly better psychological well-being than people who are more materialistic.
And what does that mean? It also means, you know, being free and autonomous where you feel that you can speak the truth.
So this is all counterproductive for us as humans.
It's taking us away from what it means to be human.
And then you get all these sorts of strange behaviors going on where you've got Jay Varmer, who is supposed to be in a position of credibility, but Clearly his soul has been corrupted to the degree where he completely ignores the only advice he's given and does the complete opposite, probably because he himself is not in tune with his soul, with himself. He's not acting from a place of real integrity.
And these are just symptoms of this failure of our culture, Russell, which is going the wrong way, and we need to bring it back to what it means to be human again.
Oh my word, well that's a sort of a fascinating conclusion to approach because I wanted to
talk to you about solutions and it's curious that as science or scientism has sort of replaced
religious orthodoxy as the kind of unchallengeable orthodoxy and authority when it comes to how
we should live our life and that's not just it obviously in the field of medicine but
also sort of data analysis once people can be reduced to data if you know Vandana Shiva
participates in your film and one of the areas that where her analysis is most fascinated
and enthralled me has been when she talks about Bill Gates's patent in of seeds is a
process of reducing nature to information and data which is in a sense a reverse alchemy
making all things material making all things mundane the desacralisation of mystery and
the unknowable which includes the connection bond honour, valour and duty that exists between
all of us and replacing that again with sort of the values of materialism which is a sort
of synonym for what can be measured.
what can be demonstrated.
And whilst as a doctor and a scientist, of course, evidence-based arguments are absolutely necessary, what we ought to be undergirded by are principles that are not derived from...
The kind of blunt rationalism that always appears to be utilised to further enthrone corrupt powers and that's become clear over the course of this conversation.
Only certain clinical trials are being undertaken.
Only certain results are being published.
Only certain studies and indeed scientists are being funded.
So the claim that this is objective truth rather than a kind of new...
A new, I want to say, hermeneutics, a new corrupted hermeneutics is a bogus one.
What we've been granted, given, is a sort of materialism dressed up as science.
and I consider it to be, particularly since becoming Christian, evidence of the not only
corruption but capture of worldliness by dark forces. And if it is ultimately a spiritual
problem, and I love the way that you analyse the Jay Varma case and conclude that it's
ultimately a spiritual problem, if that man was connected to God in a way that was working
for him, he would not have been susceptible. And I say that as a man that has failed many
times and sinned quite a lot, then he wouldn't be an invaluable node for the expression of
that corruption.
He would have been someone that might have said, well, I'm not personally worried.
I'm having orgies. So I don't know if I'm that comfortable offering out these edicts that everyone should stay in their house.
In fact, come over to my place.
So I agree that what's required is a kind of spiritual awakening.
Now, I'm not... Suggesting that that should become your problem on top of creating this excellent film and the brilliant work that you've done over the last 10 years now, 14 years.
But how do you feel that these areas interface a scene?
Because ultimately we're talking about values and principles, aren't we?
I think history gives us hope, Russell.
So, you know, in this space, a lot of people are going to get shocked.
They're going to get angry. The question is, what is the solution?
Of course, spreading that information out to people, changing hearts and minds.
But, you know, malevolence can turn to compassion.
And one of the greatest stories I tell is a story of King Ashoka.
A despotic king of India, and he would torture dissidents, built torture chambers, had molten copper poured down the throats of dissidents to really control the whole of India.
And about 200 years after the Buddha's death, he came across a teaching of the Buddha.
Somebody, I think, realized that he wasn't in a good place, and it completely transformed him.
So this guy, who was almost like a Hitler character, He was transformed by Buddhism to the extent where he stopped animal sacrifice, he stopped capital punishment, and he sent missionaries, Russell, missionaries outside India to spread Buddhism around the world.
In fact, Buddhism may not have spread outside India to other countries like China, Japan, the West, if it wasn't for Ashoka.
Evil is rooted in ignorance, and what's worth an ignorance is the illusion of knowledge.
That means the antidote to that is a greater or the real truth.
And that gives us hope moving forward.
That's beautiful. How do you propose to spread the knowledge and wisdom showcased in your film further?
And what are some of the intended outcomes?
You already suggested independent assessment of newly proposed drugs rather than...
Quangos, which is sort of an antiquated British phrase for groups that are...
Regulation being funded by the industry, essentially.
So that's one suggestion.
Do you have others?
Yeah, well, of course, you know, the more people that download the film, the better because it influences...
More and more people, it creates that kind of tipping point and this bubble, hopefully, of psychopathic tyrannies will burst.
We don't know when that's going to happen, the sooner the better, but when you speak the truth, you've got to let go of the outcome, as my friend Bobby Kennedy says.
So that's obviously one mechanism of disseminating it.
I think, you know, getting the, as you said already, removing, having independent regulation of the drugs, I think, you know, I believe in real democracy based upon truth and justice, and I think You will not find any member of the public who would say that they would find this acceptable.
The reason that this situation perpetuates itself is because people don't know what's happening.
As Doug Chomsky would say, the general public, and I would paraphrase, doctors don't know what's happening and they don't even know that they don't know.
So this is part of the way of getting this information out so people are more aware.
And there are lots of other things that we need to do as well, Russell.
For example, on the obesity epidemic issue, which I cover, I've been probably the first person to probably say ultra-processed food is a new tobacco.
And that's predominantly what we're eating.
And these are foods that have been deliberately adulterated.
To get us hooked and addicted.
And then addiction is the opposite of free will.
And then the narrative being pushed by the food industry is it's your responsibility.
So it's all very, very dark.
But once people understand actually what's going on, they will probably make a stand.
And of course, the obesity epidemic is rooted in an environmental problem.
You know, these foods have become unavoidable.
So it does need intervention by, I know people don't trust government, and rightly so at the moment, but It's the best mechanism we have in a society to function, is to have good strong governments so they can protect us from excessive industry, protect us from external aggressors, and actually create environments where everybody can flourish, Russell.
And that can't happen unless we have certain structures in place which are underpinned by regulations and laws.
So we're not going to really solve any of these problems until we change the laws that are currently in many ways undemocratic, unethical and unscientific.
Mass regulation for individuals.
Always opportunities for citizen management.
No regulation for global corporations.
Maximum transparency.
No privacy for individuals.
Maximum privacy for governments who have clandestine relationships.
Even the example you gave of approaching a prominent British government minister looked like he'd been subject to sort of Corporate overtures, shall we call them.
There is the kind of inversion that's difficult not to diagnose as a deep spiritual malady across many of our treasured institutions.
Thank you for being the doctor to make these assessments and to point us towards a cure.
Dr. Asim Malhotra's film, First Do No Farm, is out now.
Go to nofarmfilm.com.
There's a link in the description.
Download your copy.
Watch it. Proliferate it.
Spread it like a virus.
Stand within six feet of people.
Don't wear a mask. Don't get any booster shots.
Spread it giddily and wildly as if you were at a Jay Varmer COVID sex party.
That is my hearty endorsement of this fantastic project from the man I am proud to call my friend.
Thank you, Asim. Thank you, Russell.
Will you be at the Rescue the West event that is taking place?
Yes, I'm there. I think I've been given even an opportunity to maybe say a few words.
But yes, absolutely. Are you going as well?
Russell, you're going to be there, aren't you? Yes, I am.
And I'm now going to, using my skills as a broadcaster, put up a poster.
One second. There it is.
I should like to very much see your head lined up there, perhaps next to mine, or perhaps just beneath it, so I can have the privilege of peering down on you just for a moment, which is not an opportunity I get too often.
Asim, thank you so much for joining us.
When you get to DC, but we're the screenings on Thursday evening in Capitol Hill.
So if you happen to be there, we'd love to have you at the screening of the film with Ron Johnson.
I know Ron Johnson.
We spoke to him at the RNC and he was an absolute delight.
I'm coming from there.
Thanks a lot. Thanks for joining us today, mate.
Lots of luck, mate. Stay in touch.
Take it easy. Thank you, Dr.
Asim Malhotra, for joining us for this conversation.
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