“KAMALAGEDDON" - Kamala's Empty Promises DNC Finale Speech REACTION! With JOHN RICH - SF 437
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Will Kamala ever discuss her actual policies? Or are we faced with more empty promises by the person who is already in the governmental position to begin enacting them? We’re told how to feel and think, from the DNC being repeatedly described as ‘electric’ by CBC and NBC, to Kamala Harris trying to rebrand herself as the one FIGHTING elder abuse.
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I awoke, the flowers seemed more radiant, the birds sung more sweetly, Kamala Geddon averted, for it was surely a speech of promise and platitude and glory.
Everything's gonna be alright now.
I had the feeling that I often have when watching political speeches.
If people were to do the things they actually say they're going to do, then everything would be okay.
Why?
We'll all live on Lollipop Lane and the rain will taste of lemonade.
And then I'm reminded, the person that's saying this, Kamala Harris, is already in office, has been in office for four years, albeit
Peeping around the sepultury, wrinkly figure of Joe Biden.
And if you wanted to, for example, offer tax cuts or secure the border or protect and honour American troops, all these options are available to you.
But as we've already come to terms with, this is not an election.
It was all about the vibes.
Vibes are what we have now.
Instead of policy.
Vibes are what we have now instead of elections.
Vibes and pledges and platitudes are what we have instead of sincere and open conversation.
We offered conciliation and then all of a sudden the rhetoric resumes.
Armed mobs on January the 6th.
We'll govern for all Americans!
And yet, the fissures and divisions become visible once the speech ventures away from salutations from Kamala's mother, who sounds like a pretty lovely person who doesn't love their own mother.
But once we move away from the homilies and from the biographies, we're back into the territory of pledges and promises upon which it will be difficult to deliver.
We're good to go.
Putin invaded Ukraine while Biden was in office, but it's a confusing and messy world when you have to move away from the glitz and the rhetoric and into policy.
It's best just to stick with the vibes, man, and to say thank you for two minutes straight.
Let's start with the vibes.
Let's look at some of the best bits.
Let's try to look away when the irony of elder abuse being used as a potential problem that Kamala could tackle is raised.
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But first, man, it's vibes, man!
Let's just focus on the vibes!
The question is, then you hear the criticism, oh she has to do more interviews, she has to talk about policy.
Interesting from insiders you're speaking to, they're sort of like, no, absolutely not.
Haven't needed to do it so far, why start now?
And that's exactly it.
Their concern about her doing that could potentially trip her up and give Trump some ammunition.
This election needs more cowbell.
In fact, a lot of those Democrats I spoke to today said avoid those policy prescriptions.
I haven't heard from many voters looking for white papers and policy papers.
What they want to hear is what her vision is for this country.
The American people don't vote on policy prescriptions.
I actually think the way the American people think about this choice is less about the minutiae of policy and more about the direction of the country, number one.
It's a staggering assumption to claim to know what American people are feeling in this time of confusion, and division, and poverty, and despair, and war, and a total lack of solution, to claim that what they want really is a kind of cozy, comforting vibes, that what they'll be satisfied with is, well, the best vibe of all, electricity, because one thing about that DNC is it's electric.
For some reason, when I think about
The DNC, when I think about Kamala, when I think about the forthcoming election, all I can think of is electricity.
The whole thing.
It's electrifying!
Electrifying!
You better shape up.
And it was as though someone had plugged in a cable, a current was connected, and there was pure electricity in the room.
Thank you for sharing with us some of the electricity.
The energy is incredibly electric.
You know, it was just electric.
As sort of electric as I've ever seen it.
It was absolutely electric.
Talk to me about the atmosphere in here.
Is it electric?
Excitement.
It is electric.
Senator.
Sorry, I was gonna say exciting.
I mean it begins with the letter A. Say it's electric.
It was electric.
Schumer wasn't lying when he was saying that there's a lot of electricity and excitement right now.
So it's incredibly electric here.
It's electric.
We are told what to feel.
We are told how to interpret.
We are told how to live.
We are told to go into our homes.
We are told to stand six feet apart.
We are told to take our medicine.
We are told that NATO is a good thing.
We are told that endless yielding to global bureaucracies is positive.
We are told that endless war is necessary for peace.
We are told that words, in fact everything, can change its meaning.
We are told that everything is okay.
But above all else, we are told that things are electrifying.
Something just got uncorked.
The room in Chicago is quite electric tonight.
Last night was electric.
It'll be electric.
Electrifying.
Electrification.
There is electricity in this room, there is energy in this room, and there is enthusiasm in this room.
A lot of electricity and energy in this hall across this country that you have never seen.
Not even with Barack Obama in 2008?
I think this rivals Barack Obama in 2000.
For the measurement of electricity alone, by the electricity metric of the electronometer, wattage, voltage, by this is Obama levels of electricity.
This is a time for us to say thank you, and then say thank you again, and then to continue saying thank you.
What I found most enjoyable about Kamala's speech was that
Declaration at the outset that this was time for business.
Right!
It's time for business.
This is business time.
The time for electricity and for vibes is over.
This now is business time.
The business of saying thank you, thank you just endlessly, then thank you to my mum, then thank you to my husband, then thank you to Christopher Waltz.
Like, nothing has been won yet.
No one has been voted for.
No one has been nominated.
Biden didn't participate in primaries and Kamala Harris has arrived in this position by an extraordinary process.
Bobby Kennedy not allowed to run.
Marianne Williamson not allowed to participate in primaries.
The whole thing
Is it extraordinary?
But what it shows us is that we don't need to have, and are not permitted to have, a relationship with an actual and organic reality.
We are so asphyxiated by propaganda, albeit an electrifying fugue of propaganda, that it's impossible to see beyond it.
So, I mean, I just want to say thank you, really.
I just want to thank everybody in
Gratitude is important, and this, above all else, is an expression of gratitude.
Actually, you've got to pity the signer in this situation, because for two minutes you're going to be working with Thank You, but she does a pretty good job of, like, elaborating on Thank You, and I think extemporising and adding hues, colours and inflections to Thank You that simply were not there.
Good evening!
Good evening.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Behind every cynic they say is a wounded optimist and isn't there part of you that yet still craves to believe?
To believe that this is somehow real?
To believe that there could be change or good by the ascension of Kamala Harris?
It's only when you remind yourself this person already has access
To the levers of power.
This person is in office right now.
So when she makes a pledge that she's going to tighten up security at the border, you have to sort of force from your mind the thought, but aren't you the border czar?
Aren't you already in a position to do all these things?
And then you think, no, it's okay.
It doesn't matter.
I've just seen the Dixie chicks without the Dixie, by the way, doing the national anthem.
Everything has to be okay.
Taylor Swift's
Plane has landed!
Everything is going to be okay!
Just keep saying thank you!
Good evening!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you everyone!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!
It goes on for a while.
One person who gets thanked effusively is Joe Biden, who warrants a thanking really, for surely he did ultimately step aside.
Sure, he had to be shoved, nudged, sedated, pushed, excavated and extracted.
We're good to go!
Thank God for Joe Biden.
He's even now
Working on bringing about Middle East and peace and for that he deserves thanks.
Thank you Joe for letting the Democratic Party elite insidiously remove you, seemingly against your will.
To our President Joe Biden!
When I think about the path that we have traveled together, Joe, I am filled with gratitude.
There's that bit where I shoved you off of that path and into a ditch.
Remember that?
When Jill Biden, your doctor wife, had to do various methods of first aid at the roadside because you fell off that path with quite a bump.
Your record is extraordinary, as history will show, and your character
The record shows some pretty extraordinary things.
We don't have to wait for history.
It seems that favours were granted for money, there's been some extraordinary relationships with Ukrainian energy firms, odd meetings have been taken, and Saudi Arabia are more armed than any pariah ought be.
Your character is inspiring and Doug and I love you and Jill and are forever thankful to you both.
A constant fusion of familial homily and near-eulogy and I've-got-a-mum-aren't-you-like-me type rhetoric and an attempt to evoke a kind of wonderland that none of us can believe exists anymore.
Let's fling our arms around one another.
Let's unify, except for the people that participated in Jan 6.
Let's make sure there's no electoral fraud.
Let's control the border.
Let's salute everyone.
Right in the grandmother!
It's a baffling array of ideas meshed together, but one moment that perhaps crystallizes the hypocrisy is the evocation of the phrase elder abuse.
Now when you think of elder abuse these days, is there one particular face that comes to mind?
Is there one particular elderly person trotted out in front of podiums, dragged off stage,
Wandering into bushes and hedges, straying dangerously near to the blades of Air Force Two.
Is there one particular elder that has doubtlessly been abused?
I can think of one little guy.
Yeah, I mean, he's got the tricky job, according to Kamala, of right now solving the not-easy enigma and riddle of Middle Eastern peace.
So, I don't know, man, I think that struggle continues, yeah.
The word people is, by its nature, an inclusive term.
All of us fall under that banner.
Once you've said, on behalf of the people, you don't need to, pretty much, I suppose, like all creatures great and small, as a lyric, go into every single creature that might be included under the banner of all creatures great and small.
You've said it.
It's all creatures great and small.
Once you've said people, we know that you mean all types of different people.
One thing that troubles me slightly when Kamala Harris says she accepts the nomination on behalf of the people is that people is plural and there isn't even a single person that has voted for Kamala Harris.
Be clear, my entire career, I've only had one client, the people.
And so, on behalf of the people,
People though, can we be more specific?
Can you carve people up into some subsets?
Can you turn people against one another while claiming to unite them?
On behalf of every American, regardless of party, race, gender, or the language your grandmother speaks...
I said things that would be good if they were true.
These would be ideas that we could appreciate and prosper under if they were ideas that were to be implemented.
But if they were going to be implemented, you could implement them now because no barriers are about to be removed in the aftermath of the next election.
This isn't a new threshold that's about to be breached.
Kamala Harris is in office right now.
With people.
On behalf of my mother, and everyone who has ever set out on their own unlikely journey.
On behalf of Americans like the people I grew up with, people who work hard, chase their dreams, and look out for one another.
On behalf of everyone whose story could... I get it, it's people, it's people, we're all people.
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Only be written in the greatest nation on Earth.
I accept your nomination to be President of the United States.
This bit here is a favoured moment of mine because of the necessary pledge to end division, to unify, to acknowledge that if you're going to have a United States it has to be governed for everyone and the fissures that have been rendered over decades past must be healed.
We're good?
Still traumatic event.
If people are to be healed, if people are to be brought back, if people are to again live together with pride in the way that keeps being referenced, then you're going to have to conciliate and find reconciliation.
And for a moment, it seems like that's the intention, but we're pretty soon back into familiar territory.
Our nation, with this election, has a precious, fleeting opportunity to move past the bitterness, cynicism, and divisive battles of the past, a chance to chart a new way forward.
Not them armed lunatics on Jan 6th though, not the basket of deplorables, an idea that can't ever be shaken from the collective consciousness of the global establishment movement.
This post was an interesting highlight over the course of the evening.
Trump does a good one-liner on his own platform.
Is she talking about me?
He
He seemed to suspect that that's the way that it would ultimately end up going.
Now, it may already be the case that Bobby Kennedy has endorsed Donald Trump.
What's curious about it is to know that part of the reason that his campaign has faltered is because of the lawfare engaged in by, in particular, the Democratic Party machinery.
Nicole Shanahan was explicit in saying that, you know, say what you will about the MAGA movement or the Republican Party.
It's the Democrats in particular that have fought in nefarious, peculiar, legislative and insidious ways to keep RFK off the ballot and yet the right to vote
Bearing in mind this is a person who has not received any votes, is still continually enshrined and celebrated in this, what many are saying, is a masterclass in platitudes.
Kamala's ongoing address.
And the freedom that unlocks all the others the freedom to vote.
With this election, we finally have the opportunity to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act and the Freedom to Vote Act.
You could do it now!
You could do it now!
You're literally in government right now!
Do it!
Press the button!
Do it!
Now we move into from the kind of merely hollow into the directly hypocritical with talk of economic opportunity that may not tally with some of the more odd price gouging measures that have already been touted.
We will create what I call an opportunity economy.
An opportunity economy where everyone has the chance to compete and a chance to succeed.
You live in a rural area, small town, or big city.
And as president, I will bring together labor, and workers, and small business owners, and entrepreneurs, and American companies to create jobs, to grow our economy, and to lower the cost of everyday needs like health care, and housing, and groceries.
We will provide.
Sound good and that would be nice but with a policy and scenario that we can track in real time it seems that there hasn't been the execution of expertise alluded to here so these pledges also might be hollow because what exactly is going on at that border?
Were you a border czar?
Were you not a border czar?
After decades in law enforcement, I know the importance of safety and security, especially at our border.
What?
Wait a minute, how do you know that?
Is this sarcasm?
I fought against the cartels who traffic in guns and drugs and human beings, who threaten the security of our border and the safety of our communities.
So you were a Border Czar?
I'm still not clear on this Border Czar policy and another thing I suppose that we should be alert to is that the world does indeed seem to be in a fragile state.
I think all of us have economic fears and all of us
We're good to go.
We're good to go.
What brought Russia to the precipice of war and indeed the comparisons that could be made to previous American interventions under various Democrat presidents is not clear at all how this person who is in government right now will bring peace in the Middle East or between Ukraine and
And Russia.
Especially if you're blaming Trump who, for his evident flaws, did not start any new wars for the four years that he's in office.
So however dangerous Obama might claim that he is, however dangerous Kamala might claim that he will be, we have to remember he didn't start any new wars and he was in office for four years.
But hey, he's got to carry the can for Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
Trump on the other hand
We've got 70 days until the election.
We will of course be covering all of it.
The debates, the announcements, the convictions and the lack of conviction will all be covered.
It could already be a very different dynamic
Contingent, of course, on Bobby Kennedy's presumed endorsement of Trump and the likely connotations of that.
So much more to consider.
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With country singer John Rich, a zealous and evangelical Christian who has no doubts about what his vision for a better world and better America is.
This is one of the conversations I've enjoyed most for a long time.
I've seen John Rich on a bunch of shows, Bon Geno's, Jordan Peterson's.
I was very excited to speak with him.
Let's go!
What's up man?
Why don't you try being like a bit more intense and a bit more intense and Christian?
I'll try harder.
Yeah, you're too relaxed.
There's not enough, there's not enough images of you sort of staring dead ahead like that.
And my favorite bit was like, I told you enough with my mate, where we sang to Jordan Peterson.
You know, well make the commitment right now!
Make the commitment right now!
Well no, I did it a couple of days ago.
It's not good!
I've never seen that.
We were watching it, and we were saying like, um, in that bit, thanks Gareth, but Jordan Peterson is thinking, um, Jordan Peterson is thinking, I'm never having that guy on my show again!
Probably not.
But listen, I can't tell where he's at.
He's so cryptic about what he thinks and where he's at.
I'm like, enough already.
This is kind of an important subject, man.
Where are you at?
You know?
Yeah, I mean, I wasn't trying to be combative with him.
I was just, I wanted to know.
Millions of people, I think, want to know, where is this man really at?
Yeah, I mean, I loved that.
I loved it because I thought, um, yeah, I love Jordan Peterson.
I messaged him as well because I thought as soon as I sent you that message, sort of saying, hey, I like their confrontation with JP, I thought I'd message him as well because I didn't want it to feel like I was doing it in a kind of, you know, without being direct.
But yeah people it's weird like for me I was just speaking with my pastor a moment ago and he says that when you are a well-known person and you kind of come out as Christian you're under a lot of you're under pressure like the Christian community is going to embrace you even if you're a person like me with like a background that's you know like anyone
Full of sin, and failure, and error, and mistakes, and messing up.
Like, it's full of contingency for that.
It's full of the proclamation of the Kingdom of Heaven that caused sinners.
And I mean, like, the whole thing is sort of set up in such a beautiful way.
And Jordan Peterson has been an important voice because, like, as you said in that conversation, he is so intelligent.
But I'm reading his book at the moment which is amazing that you know like We That Wrestle With God.
I'm having a look at sort of a copy of that and like he's got such a masterful understanding of archetypes and psychology but Christianity is a sort of a different thing isn't it?
Like, you know, John, what excites me about your approach to the faith is you're like, every word in this book is real, it's true, surrender to it.
Can you tell me how you arrived at that?
Did you grow up with that?
Did this come to you in adult life?
And how have you got this confidence and zeal in your faith?
Well, every word in that book is true, and I think that's what flips people out, because they want to believe the parts of it that agree with them.
They want to go, that part's true, I follow that.
But then if there's something in the Bible that they don't agree with, or it convicts them, which are major sections of it, they want to leave all that part out.
They want to rip those pages out and throw them away.
They don't want that part.
Well, it's either all true, or it's all a lie.
I mean, there's no middle ground with that.
So yeah, I grew up, my dad started preaching at about 19 years old.
So he was a kid.
And instead of going into big churches and stuff, my dad preached in prisons, a lot of prisons.
And then he would go out in the streets and preach.
So, you know, here in America we have Mardi Gras.
I'm sure you guys know about Mardi Gras down in New Orleans every year.
It's probably the wildest party of the year in the United States.
My dad went to 34 Mardi Gras.
So 34 years my dad went down there and stood on the French Quarter and he sings and plays guitar too.
So he's with a guitar around his neck.
We're good to go.
Absolutely hated the fact that you were there.
He said because about one out of a hundred of them would stop and ask me what I was talking about.
And then I had an opportunity to tell them, you know, preach the gospel to them.
And so he kept doing it for 34 years.
So Russell, I come from people like that.
So, when you know it's 100% real, all the psychological analysis, all the academia, all the trying to spin it or understand it from a historical standpoint.
I mean, I've heard it done a hundred ways, just like you have.
None of that means anything.
It doesn't mean anything at the end of the day because when you die, which is what I was talking to Jordan Peterson about, I said, Doctor, when you die, your academia, your psychological analysis, your intellect, all the things that you have at your disposal here aren't going to mean anything to him.
Nothing.
The only thing that's going to mean something to him is if he looks at you and he doesn't see you, he sees Jesus Christ.
He sees his own Son.
And if he sees his own Son in you, come on in.
Come on in.
We've got a spot for you right over here.
So it is as simple as that.
Go way out of their way to try to complicate that process and not a complicated process.
As you've recently learned, it's one of the most simple things in the world.
It's just quite a challenge for especially alpha people, an alpha male or an alpha female, people with a lot of power and maybe a lot of money.
It's really tough for them.
We're good to go!
It's the toughest situation for them to give it up.
A guy who's poor, a guy who's on his last leg, it's really easy for him to give up because he doesn't have much to give up.
But the more you have, the tougher it is.
And I think that's where a lot of people are.
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You cited that bit of the scripture in your conversation, like, you know, you know, those that say, Lord, Lord, but when you get here, I'll say, I never knew you.
You didn't know me when you were on earth.
You know, obviously I'm paraphrasing, forgive me, but like, I question myself on that basis.
I'll give you an example, John, like,
You know, I've come to faith recently and almost inadvertently.
It weren't deliberate, it just came upon me and a friend of mine said, you know, like, I'm coming round, let's do a baptism.
I'd started reading things, probably in some ways a pretty typical journey, albeit a late one.
I'm reading a bit of Pastor Rick Warren's Purpose Driven Life.
I'm encountering Christians, but above all else, it's the figure of Christ.
If you come from a country like yours or mine, Jesus Christ is everywhere.
He's, you know, he's at the schools, he's all over Christmastime, he's
So present it's sort of impossible to tune him out and ignore him.
And to your point about alpha people, one of the things that's been most important is the aspect of Christ that is a man.
God as man.
The creator of the simulation comes inside the simulation to tell you how to live in the simulation.
And like for me as a person with my type of lack of trust in authority and unwillingness to surrender,
You know, unless I'm forced to.
I mean, you think of the military word surrender.
You know, if someone tries to impose authority on me, unless I am afraid that I can't resist their authority, either I'm intimidated by them physically or they're backed up by something that I think, oh my god, what can I do about that?
You know, I don't want to surrender.
I'd rather fight it.
And then the idea that I, you know, that I'm kneeling before a man.
In my prayers lately,
You know, for the beginning part, the very beginning part of my Christianity, I always felt myself kneeling at the foot of his cross.
Now I feel myself kneeling at the foot of his throne, kneeling at his feet while he is enthroned.
And I remember when we met, as we did, at the giddy, extraordinary, and bizarre carnival that is the Republican National Convention.
What a trip that is!
I remember, like, you know, you with your characteristic intensity,
Just staring across and through a room.
The aspect or the passage or idea at least in scripture you alluded to is that of slavery and bondage.
And there's points where I find that idea sort of comforting and there's times where I reject it.
And last night when I woke up in the middle of the night and I felt fraught and I felt afraid and I felt angry and frustrated and I felt lost.
And I'm trying to find and say Jesus' name, but I can tell that I'm reliant on my own will.
I wonder, you know, I don't want to be one of them that says, Lord, Lord, but when I reach the afterlife, it's like I never knew him.
I want to accept the bondage and slavery, but I do find it hard.
To surrender.
I do find it hard.
Like he's almost like, oh, this is a situation for Christianity.
You know, if someone I love is going to die or if, you know, I'm in a crisis, but when it comes to the everyday handling of interactions with other humans, well, I'll take the reins again, Lord.
I'll handle it from here.
You know, and I wonder if someone as familiar and educated in the faith is yourself, John, if you still have that dilemma, if you still feel your own ego or your own vanity or your own will or your own resistance and what that, what that's like for you.
Well, of course.
I mean, that's the human condition.
That never ends, ever.
I mean, you're in a perpetual state of sin all the time.
You know, the definition of sin is anything less than perfection.
And who's the only perfect man that ever walked?
Jesus Christ.
Well, you're never going to be Him.
You're always going to be less than that.
So, you're in a constant state of sin.
You know, it goes to the point that a lot of people have convinced themselves that, well, I can just be a good person.
If I can just do enough good things in this world, if I can just give enough money to charity, or I can go to church enough, or I can take care of sick people, whatever it is, they think that that is going to add up to basically like a resume, that when they die, when their body dies and their spirit takes off, they'll have that resume in their hand, and when they meet God Almighty in the flesh, they can say, here's my resume, it's pretty good, right?
Let me in.
And that goes counter to what lots of pastors say in the Bible.
One of the most clear ones says, all your righteousness is as filthy rags in the sight of God.
All of them!
There is no one righteous, no not one.
There is no such thing as an inherently righteous human being or a good human being.
The only thing good about you
It's him coming in and so for us you're right Russell it's it's you're constantly going to be bucking that because that's the human condition constantly that's why in another spot in the Bible it says pray without ceasing for this is the will of God pray without ceasing meaning never stop it doesn't mean doesn't mean you're on your knees by your bed 24 7 it means in your mind you're in a constant state of trying to stay connected connected connected you're open it's kind of like a
Kind of like a CB radio, you know, the old school trucker radios.
And you just, you turn that thing on and you leave it turned on.
You just leave it on.
Full volume.
And you hear white noise most of the time.
But every now and then you'll hear somebody talk and a message will come in.
That's kind of, that's kind of how I view that.
Pray without ceasing.
So, no, man, I mean, you're in the boat that every other human since Adam and Eve have been in.
And that's the constant, that's the constant work we have to do.
John, when you describe Christianity as being like that, you know, like that everyone is falling short of the standards of Christ and therefore we're all sinning and like our righteous deeds are as filthy rags, I see that aspect of Christianity that's often under attack.
I can see how people arrive at that deduction at least because it feels very punishing, you know, and if you think of the culture of individualism that is prevailing
Even if you could say it in an extreme form, you might say that wokeness is it.
The sort of making the self into a god and a deity.
But even 1980s style individualism and egotism and like the sort of self-made man and the
The country music star or the movie star or whatever.
These are all self-infatuated ideologies that I think regard that what sounds at least like a rather punitive aspect of Christianity as somewhat at odds with self-love or the benign side.
Another thing we touched upon, mate, when we chatted is like, excuse me, is that everyone likes the idea of Jesus Christ as saviour, you know, but you said not everyone likes the idea of Jesus Christ as Lord.
Where, though, in this, like, the version of Christianity that you've described, and I love what you're saying, that your consciousness has to be perfectly alloyed onto, glommed onto the presence of the Lord, otherwise you will drift back into selfishness, satanic, cut-off, self-centered, demonic consciousness, worshipping the individual, setting up the false idols and the false orders, worshipping all of a sudden Moloch and Baal become your gods all of a sudden.
But, like,
How do you introduce and feel the aspect of Christ that is love, pure, benign, and the aspect of the Trinity that is unending love, when so focused on the failings of any individual?
Well, I mean, it's a great question, but for all, you know, he's a 360.
He's all of it.
So, yeah, he's expecting you to hold to account.
He's going to hold you to account.
But on the other side, he's the most forgiving
He's the most forgiving that's ever existed.
I mean, for goodness sake, he allowed his son to be tortured to death, beaten to death, and then murdered on a cross for committing no crime.
Bled completely out, every single drop of blood bled out.
Some people don't understand how brutal a crucifixion actually was.
I mean, that was the most torturous, brutal murder, brutal killing that they had invented at that point, crucifixion.
You know, the first thing they did to Jesus is they took a cat of nine tails, and a cat of nine tails with a Roman whip.
And it had nine strands coming out of it, and those leather strands were woven into it.
Glass, rocks, all kinds of things that would rip and tear.
And they'd take his cloak off, and they'd start slinging that whip against his back.
And every time they'd pull it out, it would pull out pieces of flesh off of his back.
And then they turn him around and then they whip the front side over and over and over till he was almost dead.
The Romans were really, really skilled at that because they could beat you almost to death.
Almost.
They knew when to stop when you were about to die.
And so they would stop and for him, then they said, okay, carry your cross where you're going to go up on a trash heap.
Golgotha, you're going to go up there, this is where they threw all the trash and dead animals and whoever, whatever.
We're going to go show you on a trash heap, Jesus Christ, Son of God.
And then they murdered him up on a hill.
So, any God, any Son of God, Trinity, that loves you enough to do that, I promise loves you enough to forgive you of your daily shortcomings.
I mean, think about it!
And that's also what separates Jesus from any other, quote, deity that you would want to bring up.
You know, if you want to go into any other religion out there, no other religion,
Has someone that literally died for you, that was allowed to be tortured on your behalf, and that is coming back again?
Nobody.
Nobody has that.
You know, a lot of people try to say, well, it could be Jesus, it could be Buddha, it could be this, that, or the other thing.
Yeah, show me one of those other ones that went through what Jesus Christ did and said, I am the Son of God, I'm God in the flesh.
Nobody else ever even made that claim.
And so, either Jesus is a liar,
Or he's the truth.
There is no middle ground with that.
And if he's the truth, which he is, then what he said is also true.
And if what he said is true, that's where it comes down to us to go, OK, I've got to, as Jordan Peters would say, I've got to wrestle with this.
And that's a dangerous wrestling match because, God forbid, you get killed in a car accident.
God forbid you have a heart attack, or a stroke, or something happens you didn't account for, and you thought you had another 30 or 40 years, and boom, you're gone.
Just like that?
It says to be absent from the flesh is to be present with God, meaning it is immediate.
It's like I told Dr. Peterson, I'll say it to you too, I'm looking at what Russell Brand lives in.
That's the encasement that the spirit of Russell Brand, the eternal part of Russell, he just lives in that body with the beard on it and the British accent.
Someday, that's going to die and then the real Russell Brand is released and the real Russell Brand is going to be standing face to face with him.
And then the question is, what's he going to see when you walk up there?
Your resume?
You're going to try to talk him into it?
What's he going to see?
He better see Jesus Christ than you.
Anything short of that and you don't get to be with him.
When we see how Christianity can be applied in culture, it can seem like... Say that, right, Christ is the truth, what he says is the truth, and you know that bit where he's like, you know, love God with all your heart and love thy neighbor as you love thyself.
Like, that's it.
That's what we're, you know, we're gonna boil down to that.
And I think that's the same bit where he tells that,
Young man, you might want to drop out all of your stuff and follow me, and the young man goes away sad because he knows he's still infatuated with the things of the world, and Lord alone knows I feel that sometimes.
But, do you feel that there are some things elsewhere in the Bible, you know, whether in the Gospels or the, uh, the letters or whatever, or even, you know, like, if Christ says his teaching can come down to love God with all your heart and love thy neighbor as you love yourself, how do we deal with some of the cultural stuff
Within the Bible, which one might assume from an academic or analytical perspective, bears the marks of the culture from which it's from.
Perhaps an obvious example being around sex and sexuality.
If it says like the, you know, that it's licentiousness is sinful, to pursue sex for pleasure, to pursue sex with, to pay for sex is sinful, and of course, you know,
Now quite a few times I've seen the Bible, I didn't know it was in there as much as it was.
Sex between people of the same sex is sinful.
How are you going to play that out when, as you said, you see various attempts to repackage and repurpose the Bible?
Would you say like if you were looking to have a conversation that was somewhat conciliatory with gay people who by the virtues of the scripture there or by the excuse me by the letter of scripture are in sin that by the metric that they are judged
Basically anyone who's having sex just for pleasure is sinning, and that sex is sacred, and that sex really only ought be happening, and I'm asking this because I don't understand it and I don't know the answer, that sex will only really be happening in a marriage, and really only to create kids probably, like the pleasure aspect of sex is
Is in order that you have it, not in order to get the pleasure.
So like, or are you, or would you say that the Bible is explicitly saying different, like, you know, same-sex couples, that is specifically wrong, you're going to hell, there's no way out.
Because I feel like that, you know, that people are still struggling with that idea.
And I, you know, when I think of that love thy neighbor as thy love thyself aspect, I feel like, you know, if Christ were here now,
How would he be handling all of the issues around identity, sexuality, given that what he says is love, love, love?
Well, all the things you just mentioned existed back then, too.
I mean, the Roman Empire.
I mean, think about it.
I mean, there's nothing going on now that wasn't also going on then, other than we just have tech now.
But other than that, everything was going on then.
And so you have to look at, well, how did Jesus approach people?
Well, he loved sinners.
He died for sinners.
We're all sinners.
You know, it's not your sin is going to send you to a worse part of hell than my sin.
No, no.
Sin is sin is sin.
And we're all guilty of all kinds of things.
And so he went out to where the people were.
You know, he went and found where they were.
He stayed out of the church.
He didn't like the Sadducees and the Pharisees, which were the religious elite of his day, which, by the way, were the ones that also ultimately turned him in to the Roman Empire.
He was not interested in that.
He was interested in going out to where the people were.
And those people had all the same kind of problems that we have today.
You can look at the Twelve Disciples directly and find out that, man, these guys were
I mean, these are some pretty raucous gentlemen out there.
They were doing all kinds of stuff.
Sailors.
You know, it says Peter and James and John, when they were sailing out fishing on the Sea of Galilee, they'd been drinking wine all day, you know, and they're day drinking and trying to catch fish.
And Jesus walks by and goes, come over here.
I'll make you fishers of men.
And they're like, what?
He goes, I'm Jesus.
I'm the Son of God.
Follow me and I'll make you fishers of men.
And they said, OK.
So he did not pick people
That had some kind of perfect look about them because anybody that thinks that they're perfect or tries to act like they are, are the most hypocritical creatures in the world.
So he went after the ones that had all kinds of problems.
Matter of fact, the more fouled up they were, the more he went after them, the more he wanted them to understand the truth and come to the side of truth.
I've heard you talk in a recent interview, Russell, about
About Paul, who was Saul prior to that.
And so, as he's Saul, he's working for the Roman Empire, and Saul's job was to hunt down Christians and cut their heads off, or set them on fire.
It's where the phrase Roman candle comes from.
They would put Christians down and tar and light them on fire, and they'd look like a candle burning.
This was Saul's entire job, and he was very good at it.
They sent him out to round them up, and then on the road to Damascus,
We're good to go.
And upon that realization, he realized, I've been killing his people.
I've been killing his kids this whole time.
And so when he finally got back up on his feet, he did a complete turn.
He went from Saul to Paul, and then he started writing, and he wrote half of the New Testament.
So to answer your question, people that are involved in whatever kind of sin they're involved in, the way Jesus went after them was, number one,
He did show love to them.
He showed them that he cared about them.
And at the same time, he told them the truth about what it was that they were doing and what the stakes were, what their eternity was going to be like if they stayed on that path and never turned to him.
So it was both.
It was he loved them, but he also told them the truth.
And I think any more you have maybe
The majority of both sides of the table, it's either all love and no truth, or it's all truth and no love.
It's not both, and it's supposed to be both.
I like that and I like what you said right early on John that there's not like a league table of sin.
You sinned!
That's it!
Like so God is not like them lot were doing homosexuality.
They're going to a worse bit.
Them lot were greedy.
This guy was self-infatuated and self-centered.
This person tried to create his own power on earth the whole time.
You know, as a person like that, you know, when I figured out the time when I was living licentiously as a promiscuous person, I'm beginning to understand now, you know, because of some stuff I read in Paul, Corinthians actually, in fact, it was more when I heard it read out rather than read it.
I heard it in church, the bit where, like, Paul goes,
And the pastor that did it, old Father Dave, he done it so lovingly, he goes, you know, do you not know that your body is a temple?
Do you not know?
I like the phrasing, so gentle, to say maybe you lot don't know this, but your body is a place where God can inhabit and you are seriously mistreating it.
And I feel like that what I was doing was like you trying to generate my own energy and my own power, like that,
Sex is a sort of magical, powerful thing.
And when you have sexual attraction, when you are able to attract to a high-level mate, it feels very, very rewarding.
And also sort of psychotically unending, I would say.
You know, like I know a lot about addiction, as in I've experienced a lot of different types of addiction.
And there's something about it just won't ever kind of you can't do anything about it you know like with whether it's a chemical thing where you could track why you're having to do it more or a behavioral thing where you can't see so obviously why you're having to do it more you do get the idea that you're descending down that you're descending down into something that is dark and unfulfillable and this idea that you're trying to generate your own energy it seems important
Now given like that you're starting to exist at least culturally John in somewhat political spaces a slight pivot of interest to me is how like before I was Christian when it like say when in your country the Republican Party would have been George W Bush and Dick Cheney and stuff.
George W was an explicit overt Christian and like you know there's that war that goes down in Iraq that in retrospect was a double wrong war.
And then there's like now we have like a kind of I would say that the globalist class I would call them that tend to find their seats of power within the structures of parties that are nominally of the left.
They are explicitly about rationalism, the individual, managerialism, technology, human power is the apex, we will solve all the problems through technology, we will solve all of the problems through people's ingenuity.
But the right, still in the figure of Donald Trump, has, you know, and I must say over time I've become a lot more sympathetic to Trump, one because
He's so funny and charismatic, too, because the people that hate him are, I think, examples of this bureaucratic class of globalists I consider to be the real threat to democracy, rather than populists.
But nevertheless, I wonder, you know, you, I figure, you've praised Trump, and I wonder what you feel like
He, what, like, you know, you've just said we all fall short, but when Christianity is used within politics, i.e.
the Christian right, there would have been a point, John, where I'd have seen that as a contradiction in terms, like the
Christianity and Christ are so much about love that how could that be a party that has historically been associated with war and still contemporarily are going to be a party of materialism that are not going to be a party that are like gonna govern like Jesus Christ would govern or will govern when he comes back not all meek and mild but double tooled up and powerful
I wonder how you feel that Christianity within politics, or probably perhaps any religion, but given that it's you, Christianity in politics, whether or not that sits right and is right, and what complexity comes from it?
Well, first of all, the Lord is not political.
He is not part of a political party, number one.
Number two, we just discussed some of the most
Unlikely people ever that God picked.
To do some pretty incredible jobs.
David is another one, King David.
And you and I talked about that, how he went after Goliath.
And then David did all kinds of stuff that was terrible.
He took Bathsheba as his wife.
But the only way he was able to do that was he sent her husband, Uriah, who was a great soldier and a commander.
He would normally be in the back of the soldiers.
He sent him to the front lines to make sure he got killed in battle so then he could take his wife.
I mean, that's...
That's pretty bad.
I mean, that's about as bad as it gets, honestly.
And then David paid a horrible price for that.
He was punished horribly for that, as he should have been, and then he repented and came back.
Listen, America, a lot of Americans, especially Christians in America,
I think that America, because it was founded on Christian principles to a large extent, I mean, endowed by our Creator with a capital C, with certain unalienable rights, among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
So, I mean, God was referenced all throughout our original writings, but they have this misconception that because of that, America is immune from the wrath of God.
That he's never going to come after us because we're a Christian nation.
And the real answer to that, Russell, is he comes after Christian nations, or nations that claim that they serve and follow him.
He comes after them ten times harder than he comes after total pagan nations.
Ten times, a thousand times harder.
There's a very quoted verse, 2 Chronicles 7 14, and I'm not going to be able to quote it all perfectly, but it says, if, this is God talking, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and turn from their evil ways, I will come and I will heal their land.
That's a paraphrase.
But he doesn't say, if the devil's people will, if the devil's people will stop being wicked, if the devil's people will turn from their wicked ways.
He's saying, if my people, mine, my kids.
So throughout the history of what we know of the Lord, which is, you know, he says, I'm the same yesterday, today and forever.
My word does not change.
That means however he handled things back in the day is how he's going to handle them this very second.
Tell me what you think about America.
You just talked about all the wars that we've gotten into that were unsubstantiated, and millions upon millions of human beings were killed in those wars, and we were lied to by politicians who claim to be Christians and claim to be doing the work of God, yet they drag us into these wars and get millions of people killed.
And then you could keep going through a lot of these things that we've seen taking place in our country, in America.
And I have to think at some point, he is not going to put up with that forever.
He's just not.
You know, I was talking to somebody last night about the election that's coming up, and this was a Christian lady that was talking to me, and she said, I believe God has put Donald Trump in that position to come in and straighten this thing out, you know, get us back on track.
And I said, well, just to understand this.
If he wins, that's an act of God.
And if he loses, that is also an act of God.
In the scripture it says he puts kings into power and he takes kings out of power.
He puts in the pieces he wants to be put in to accomplish whatever it is he wants to accomplish.
Let's say he wanted to really bring the wrath down on the United States of America.
Would he do that by letting Donald Trump be president or by letting Harris or somebody else be president?
That's a good question.
See, Christians don't want to see both sides of that, like we talked about earlier.
They think it's only the good, only the stuff that serves me well is what comes from the Lord.
That's just not true.
He has put his people through all kinds of situations when they've rebelled and they refuse to turn back around.
They refuse to repent.
As it says, they step in their neck.
He's trying to pull you and you're going, no, no, I'm not going there.
And you do that long enough, you'll go, OK, boom.
And then whatever he does, he does.
And the point of that is
It's punishment just like a father would punish a son.
You do that so the son hopefully learns to turn and stop doing what he was doing because it might have been something dangerous he was doing.
He needs correction.
If he's not going to listen, then you're going to have to take action.
That's the same way the Lord works, too.
I'm glad you asked me that because most Christians never go there.
They only want to talk about, well, if the thing that I think should happen doesn't happen, then that was the devil doing that.
The devil has no authority.
None.
The scripture that says every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord at the end when it's all said and done, that means the devil too.
He will bow.
His knee will hit the ground.
His face will go in the dirt.
He has no authority at all.
This is a big misconception.
It's throughout the churches, Russell, that the preachers preach like this.
They leave out all the other stuff because it makes people uncomfortable.
And then they maybe don't come back to church.
And then maybe they don't put money in the offering at the church.
That's why, to me, you know, massive religion and massive sects of religion out there, nowhere in the Bible is that ever talked about.
Jesus actually said, do not build temples in my name.
Do not do it.
Meet in your houses.
Meet two or three at a time.
Come to me one-on-one.
Do not build temples.
That's not saying going to church is a bad thing.
But if you feel like church is the reason that you're okay with God, that's false.
That's false.
And a lot of preachers, priests, and all kinds of other religions make human beings think, if you don't come to me, you can't get to Him.
That's a lie.
It's a lot to think about, huh?
Yeah, it's a lot to think about there, John Rich.
I feel like I recognize what you're saying about the stiffening of the neck and how much resistance I have had to yielding to Christianity, accepting Christ, surrendering.
It's been very difficult and as a result of suffering and trauma and being broken, broken like a vase, but also broken like a beast of burden.
I also like what you say about that nothing happens but by his will, that even if something is conceived by Satan, it'll be used for his will, if he allows it to happen.
So even though there's... I experienced some dark stuff, you know.
But I can feel how I'm being shaped, fashioned, guided, directed by it.
I love what he said, too, about, like, almost what you might regard as quite anarchist principles there, espoused by Christ.
I mean, anarchist in the positive sense of the word, even though the word anarchist is dangerously close to Antichrist!
Like, that he didn't want centralised power.
He didn't want
I'm glad I read it early
In my still new journey into Christianity and got the sense of oh wow in the beginning people are like oh my god Jesus it's real he came I saw him he was alive for 50 days we went in the tomb you know and like someone pointed me out to me recently
The letters of Paul are the first Christian documents, so like the people that he's chatting with haven't, unless they're getting it by another means, orally, which I suppose of course is totally possible, maybe even likely, they're not hearing about the rock being rolled back and the bandages being cast aside and Mary being in the tomb.
They're not hearing about doubting Thomas.
They're not hearing about all of that, you know.
Or even, you know, the Pentecost.
But all of that stuff, the Paul stuff, I always thought before, I'm one of them people that thought I knew what was in the Bible without reading it.
Like that's, I totally would have thought, yeah I get the idea, but and I sort of had the sense that Paul was kind of taking
The message of Christ and making it into something that could be used as a method of social control.
I didn't realize that Paul was out there on trial, jailbreaking, traveling around, getting shipwrecked, like going through what sounds like a lot of hell.
Having to work for a living to carry the message.
And it's this version of Christianity, this early Christianity, that probably a lot of newly converted Christians find exciting.
Because that idea, you know, and this is coming off the back of what you just said then, is that, like, presumably in the same way as you're saying there's no classification or categorization when it comes to sin, there's just, you are either inviting Jesus Christ in through personal relationship or you are not.
Same with politics.
It's not like, geez, that God would go, I'm well down with Donald Trump, or I'm well down with Bobby Kennedy, or I'm well down with Kamala Harris.
It's just like, this is beyond that.
We're talking about an aspatial, atemporal, total creator, holy trinity.
And I wonder, therefore, if what, at a time like ours, John, I don't know that it's unique, because you said before all the things that are going on nowadays was going on in the Bible, except without tech, although you've got to say, haven't you, mate, that
Tech does supercharge and it does speed, speed stuff up.
I wonder if this idea of a new Christianity where people are hanging out in groups of twos and threes are looking at themselves as Christian above all else, not Republican or Democrat, not black or white or like just say and like in Paul, you know, it ain't about the circumcised no more.
It's about all everyone is welcome.
That is the beauty of this religion.
Get involved, get involved and start identifying with Christ before and above all else that we may be saved individually.
Although I will just tag one of the things I keep seeing is nowhere in here does Jesus say get out there and take over the government and take over the planet.
He's gonna do that and I keep thinking that somehow I'm supposed to be participating in revolutions.
I know that I said a lot there, I just wondered what your thoughts are.
Yeah, I mean, he doesn't say that.
No, you're exactly right.
You know, the thing about accepting Jesus Christ and really doing it, like really turning yourself over to Him for real, is that once a person actually does that for real, all the things that they had been doing prior to that moment happening,
All of a sudden, start to become pushed out.
They become, they can't coexist with him.
Like, he's inside of you, so all these things you used to do all the time, now you don't even want to do those things anymore.
He changes your mindset where you don't even want to.
It's almost, there's a repulsion of it.
It's like, there's no space for that anymore because he filled up all that space.
A lot of people, I'd say most people, me included,
You know, when you go out in your life and you're messing up big time and you're chasing whatever vice that is, like you said, drugs, alcohol, money, sex, whatever it might be, people are looking to do those things to fill a void that they've got.
And they're never able to fully fill it.
That's why they have to constantly get more and more and more and it's never filled.
And when they give their life to Jesus, He comes in and all the voids that you had are now completely filled, completely.
It's like light in a dark room.
You know, you can walk in the darkest room in the world and you light a candle or you turn on a light.
The whole room is full of light.
Not just the part where you turn the light on.
It washes through all of it.
The darkness just goes, boom!
It's just gone.
And so, I think that is the thing to keep in mind, that people can't say, I'm a real Christian, I gave my life to Jesus Christ, and I am still living this lifestyle.
Because the two, they're incompatible.
They cannot coexist like that.
So it's not that this judgment is coming down and you're saying, okay, now that you're with me, if you don't stop doing this, bang, bang.
It's that when he really comes in, you won't even want to anymore.
You mentioned tech.
You're exactly right.
I think why we have seen the turbocharged
The culture that we're in right now towards evil is because of that, is because of tech.
And when you read the book of Revelation, for instance, you know, that's about Jesus coming back.
It's about what's going to happen before He comes back, and what's going to happen after He comes back.
It lays it all out, written by the Apostle John 2,000 years ago on the Isle of Patmos.
John was actually a, he was a prisoner at that point, he'd been exiled, and he wrote the book of Revelation.
Throughout the last couple of thousand years, theologians, preachers, regular people like us would read Revelation and could not make heads or tails as to how this stuff was even possible.
It sounded like science fiction.
Like, how is this possible?
For instance, one of them is the Mark of the Beast.
It says you won't be able to buy or sell unless you have the mark of the beast or the mark of the system that's in place at that point.
And nobody could ever understand, well, how in the world can you track everybody in the world and know how they spend their money and stop them from spending their money?
How is that even possible?
And then today in 24,
We know about central bank digital currency, we know about globalism, we know about all these nations coming together that would love to just stranglehold the human population.
So here we are, 2024, and I think today the reason you're seeing a lot of people
I think so.
We're good to go.
Yeah, pain and fear gave me a jolt in this spiritual battle.
Let's have a quick look at Revelation, your song.
Got a clip from your video, John, that I want to check out.
I watched it a couple of times.
I love it.
Check this out, everyone.
Dancing in the flames The people cursed his name Bowed at the altar of the father of lies But there's a number to their days And all their evil ways The Lord's gonna turn away from all their cries Oh, revelation I can feel it coming like a dark train running
We're good.
We're good to go.
John reached out with revelation that what we're seeing is a showdown between is that Archangel Michael and of the forces of darkness, Satan, El Diablo, the father of lies, the necromancer himself having a showdown there, John.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
You know, in the Book of Revelation, it talks all about that.
It says, we wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers and the rulers of spiritual darkness of this earth.
That's really what the battle and the war is.
And the more we see going on in the world, at least
For me, because I know what's really up, you can almost see it.
I mean, you can see people who are controlled by one or the other.
You can really see it.
It's clear as a bell.
And so I thought, man, I don't know what people are going to think about this song or about that video, but it hit me like a ton of bricks last fall.
I was here at the house in Nashville, and all of a sudden it just washed over me, this chorus that you just played.
And I was like, what is that?
What am I hearing right now?
It's like in my head.
Grabbed a pencil and a piece of paper and an old guitar and I started writing it down.
Wrote it in about an hour.
And then I looked up, kind of looked out my window and I'm like, what do you want me to do with this?
I mean, I'm a country singer.
I put out popular songs.
What do you want me to do with this song?
And the answer back was, take it all the way to the mat.
Take it as far as you can possibly take it.
Make the audio as good as you can.
Make a video that people have to look at.
Make it that good.
And then tell everybody about it.
Anybody that will listen, show it to them.
And so that's what I did.
Russell, it's been incredible, the responses.
We're good to go.
I just picked up the Bible for the first time in 15 years, and I'm now reading it, and I went, bingo!
That was the point, to get people to wake up and realize this is way bigger than politics, this is way bigger than left and right, way bigger than culture.
This is the ultimate that's going on right now, and to my point earlier, I think with the advent of tech and all the things that have happened, we don't know when this is all going to take place, but it's now possible for these things to take place.
Those prophecies are not just in Revelation.
They're in Daniel.
Daniel talked about it 500 years before Jesus was around.
He was talking about the whole thing.
2 Thessalonians, 1 Corinthians, Paul was talking about it.
It's throughout the Bible, what it's going to be like in the end times.
So thanks for showing a piece of that video, man.
I still get a grin on my face when I see Michael come down.
Boom!
And I know your buddy's got Michael on his arm, right?
He's got the tattoo.
Yeah, that's right!
He's gonna like, now that his name's come, now that you've alluded to him, because I was just thinking we should do a message, we say hello, we say hello to, we do a little message for Joe, because he loves you and he loves your video.
Hey Joe, it's John Rich, man.
I love your chat.
I hope I get to see you one of these days.
Michael the Archangel, man.
I don't know that he's any bigger than you, man.
Good to see you.
I think sometimes that Joe is an archangel come to earth to save and protect us all.
John, man, thank you so much.
Thanks for the way that you explain Christianity with such certainty, but with such delicacy, and actually even your answer to the sin thing.
I mean, you know, that idea that none of us is in a position to judge no one, it just comes again and again, doesn't it?
Like that principle of non-judgment.
I notice how I try to set myself up as a tribunal of like, well, I'm cleverer than these people or I'm more advanced or something.
I'll try and find some way but, you know, we're all just in it together, ain't we, mate?
Yep, we are.
And there's one way out and one way only.
He says, I'm the way, the truth, and the life.
No man comes to the Father except through me.
And so if you believe that the Bible is true, then that's what it says.
And again, He's the only one that can actually ever change you.
You can never change yourself.
You can never do enough to get to where it is you ultimately want to be.
I accept Jesus Christ as my Savior.
Please, Lord, save me, change me, use me, Heavenly Father.
I bow down before you in absolute surrender, Lord.
John, thanks so much for joining me today and thanks for your time and for your instruction.
You bet, brother.
Keep up the great work.
Thanks for having me.
I hope you've enjoyed that conversation with John Rich.
I hope you're enjoying the post-DNC, post-coital malaise.
How will this election shape up with the inevitable constant shifting and manoeuvring?
Will the legacy media continue to amplify the messages that we've seen relayed in this DNC celebration?
Will things continue to be electric and electrifying?
What will the debates bring and how will the sands shift as a result
All this and more we will continue to discuss next week.
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