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DNC EMBARRASSMENT: CNN ADMITS Trump Would Win! - SF 434
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Thanks for joining me today for Stay Free with Russell Bramble.
Glenn Greenwald's coming on in about 15 minutes.
Between now and then, we'll look at the early events of the Democratic National Convention.
Let's have a look at a few moments from it.
For example, this is a kind of lovely moment for those of you that have been paying close attention to the weaponization of the legal system.
The number of times where ordinary people's faith in the judiciary and the institutions of media and government has faltered and ultimately failed because we know that they are not electorally Responsible or morally reliable, but can be utilized to fulfill an agenda that's clearly designed and implemented by the powerful.
So to watch this moment seems like... I mean, do these people know what irony means?
Donald Trump would be able to weaponize the Department of Justice to go after his political opponents.
He could even turn the FBI into his own personal police force.
That is not how it works in America!
That's how it works in dictatorships!
Is there a precedent for that?
How do we know?
How do we know it will be possible?
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We're participating in a movement that's seeking to galvanize the obvious enthusiasm for real democracy and real change.
And can it ever come from these places that are clearly lacking in a moral center?
The adversary of Trump, Hillary Clinton, rose again at the Democratic Party National Convention and won wonders What she may truly feel on seeing the chalice poisoned, though it may be, Pastor Kamala.
I'm talking about the participation of Hillary Clinton.
Now, one of the things that...
I've always felt a slight moral reservation around was the kind of easy vilification and demonization of political figures trying as I am to come from a place of love and patience and tolerance not because I want a badge or some sort of merit mark but because What are we if we're naught but vitriol and hate?
Isn't the thing that's most difficult to accept and swallow about our current political climate is the lack of clear moral principles?
The lack of an obvious direction?
Just the simple continual deployment of vituperative rhetoric depending on what's convenient to say?
i.e.
watch Hillary Clinton now and watch what seems to me to be an insidious glee.
When the crowd starts to chant, lock him up.
So we've already had a member of the Democratic Party National Convention say, you know, we don't want the legal system to be kind of deployed and weaponized.
And any of you that have been watching the various Trump trials, if you dislike Donald Trump, will recognize that many cases were amalgamated and brought together in order to create a kind of felony broth.
That wasn't previously there.
As well you may have noticed the odd use of her tongue during that speech.
Didn't really have time to get into that.
I didn't want to get distracted.
It was kind of unusual.
Now we'll see Hillary Clinton making another kind of moral about face by sort of reveling in the easy kind of jingoism and sort of casual bombast that's available when crowds gather ...and seemingly relishes the lock-him-up chanting.
Have a look.
Be quiet there.
Donald Trump fell asleep at his own trial.
And when he woke up, he made his own kind of history.
The first person to run for president with 34... Where's your principles, Hillary?
Same place you left your neck!
for felony convictions.
When the RNC kind of seemed like a WrestleMania event with the obvious
inclusion of, you know, Hulk Hogan is not an easy reference to make and the kind of
easy and kind of, well let's call it vulgar nationalism that defines the MAGA right.
I don't mean that to condemn it, I come from a...
blue-collar community myself, just recognizing that aesthetic. But when you see this apparently
liberal metropolitan superior community all redolent with haughtiness every time you see
them take to the stage or screen and to see them still going like boo boo down with that sort of
thing you feel like well what is this actually about other than sort of hollow hollering?
Vice President Kamala sat in the situation room.
It seems like a kind of superficial set of differences even if you were to accept their points of condemnation.
What are the points of difference?
Certainly, it's very difficult to identify policies.
What we are going to do that is going to be different is this.
This is how we will improve your life.
Some of you will have already noted that the kind of popular policy that Trump appeared to come up with on the spot about letting servers keep their tips, that's been mimicked already.
And do you know that the manifesto is still the manifesto that they're not legally obligated to follow, conveniently, because we know they wouldn't anyway.
that was set up for the Biden candidacy when it was presumed that Biden would be the candidate and note too that Biden has been kind of extracted like Boxer from Animal Farm because normally when you say our situation is increasingly Orwellian you are referring primarily to 1984 but those of you that were forced to read Animal Farm at school will know that there's a Magnificent moment where Boxer, who's the representation of the proletariat and a kind of shire horse, without whom the revolution would not have been possible, is ultimately melted down for glue.
And Joe Biden's participation in this event is kind of heartbreaking.
He's apparently a brilliant eulogy giver and he's giving his own eulogy here.
And the kind of the empty, vapid spectacle machine, this bizarre simulacrum, is giving him a send-off.
I'll tell you the reference I've got.
When West Ham United left Upton Park, there was a big ceremony of like, this is sad that we're doing this.
But the whole time I was thinking, we're only leaving this to go to a bigger stadium because of money.
We should stay at Upton Park.
There were sort of sentimental displays, black taxis driving around the pitch, the spectre of Bobby Moore, a great deceased captain whose number, the number six, was retired to honour him.
Turning off the floodlights, and all the while you're participating in this sentimentality, and remember a great description for sentimentality is unearned emotion.
All the time you're participating in the sentimentality, you realise, well, you know, you don't have to shut down Upton Park, we could just stay here.
We don't have to go anywhere else.
We're doing this for money.
And the same thing with the celebrations and sentimentality around Joe Biden.
The only reason Joe Biden has been extracted is because he's unelectable.
The media could no longer cooperate with the establishment in supporting that party.
And Lord alone knows they are participating in the amplification of the idea that Kamala Harris is a great candidate, even in the absence of sincere, serious or identifiable policy. There's one
about grocery bills, there's one about tips. It all seems extraordinarily vague. Anyway, let's
have a look, let's have a look at Biden's kind of sort of euphoric send-off.
You would think that if Mark LG in the chat, Upton Park was a dump.
I just looked down to the sort of chat and like, just a total Mark LG, Upton Park was a dump.
What are you talking about?
It was our dump!
It was a dump that was full of emotion.
It was a dump that was full of meaning.
It was a dump that brought people together.
It was a dump that made people feel that there might be something in life that mattered more than money, more than constant, incessant pursuit of money.
And Lord alone knows we're all guilty of it at times because it seems there's all this real in the end, the only identifiable, viable thing.
Could I just grab a fistful of dollars to see me through the night?
Come on!
Now let's have a look at the fanfare and extraordinary exhibition of enthusiasm for Joe Biden, a man that has been deliberately, mendaciously and illegitimately actually removed.
Was Clause 25 or whatever it was, Amendment 25 evoked?
Amendment 25 evoked. How was it?
Your love is lifting me higher and higher and your hierarchy has booted me
off the ballot and hasn't even had the common decency to remove my name from
the manifesto.
I mean, I don't know if you would call it a manifesto anymore because it's just a bunch of irrelevant ideas cobbled together that wouldn't be obeyed or adhered to anyway.
Just let's take one simple example, a couple of examples because there they are on top of my head accessible to me.
Are you gonna build that wall that you really condemned Donald Trump for proposing?
Yeah, we are gonna build that wall.
Hmm, okay.
Are you gonna sell arms to Saudi Arabia, who you claimed while campaigning in Mayapura?
Yeah, we are.
So, here's all this dancing, and a jumping, singing, and Stevie Wondering, and moving... Marvin Gaye.
Whichever Motown artist you've dragged from the grave, it's extraordinary.
Note the posters.
I feel like it was Colonel Tom Parker that came up with the idea.
You look at Elvis propaganda, the crowds have all got signs with the same handwriting.
and look at the signs of this ludicrous spectacle.
Thank you.
Sam Cooke.
Tell me, this is driving me crazy.
And then, of course, he starts, you know, like Joe Biden gets to actually speak.
And we're reminded of the reason that he had to be forcibly removed against his will from the presidency.
It's a decision over turning Roe v. Wade, as you heard earlier tonight.
The United States Supreme Court majority wrote the following.
Quote, women are not without electrical, without, not allowed, not without electoral, electoral or political power.
Sort of cheer that, and I don't know if they're cheering because they've been told to cheer, or they're cheering at the general idea of pro-choice, or are they cheering possibly these famous sentences, as the old adage goes, women are now without electrical will, Naldo, not allowed, because there's not without electrical, electoral, or political power.
I believe.
That it was James Baldwin who... Or was it Frederick Douglass?
Which great Democrat?
No, he was a Republican, wasn't he?
Frederick Douglass?
God help us.
No kidding.
Maggie Republicans found out the power of women in 2022.
And Donald Trump is going to find out the power of women in 2024.
Oh, God love him.
Let's see the rest.
This is another moment from Hillary Clinton's participation.
I want... I...
I want... I...
I want my grandchildren and their grandchildren to know I was here at this moment, that we were here, and that we were with Kamala Harris every step of the way.
This is our time, America.
This is when we stand up.
This is when we break through.
The future is here.
It's in our grasp.
Let's go with it!
Aristotle in Poetics says that theatre requires numerous components, among them meaning and purpose and message, and one aspect of it was spectacle.
And even in entertainment, spectacle has become overvalued.
The craziness, say, of a You know, is it Michael Mann, the dude that makes Transformers?
A movie that feels like it's all special effects and explosions and no real meaning.
Now, if entertainment has become too enthralled with spectacle and has lost connection with meaning and purpose, how much more sobering is it to note that politics is all but spectacle now?
You can certainly advance the same argument about the RNC, and I certainly wouldn't oppose you.
But look at what this is.
These are the people that were...
Guard themselves as the supercilious guardians of the culture and of reason.
She is the woman who augured the phrase, basket of deplorables.
But she's quite happy for a Democrat convention to chant, lock him up, lock him up.
So it's not wrong to shout, lock him up or lock her up.
It's just we would like to nominate the person that that shouted about.
And it's not wrong to just have no manifesto, no purpose, no morals, no meaning, no principles, no policy, no plan, no vision for America, no intention of bringing about peace, no intention of demanding ceasefires, no intention to bring about peace between Russia and Ukraine or the people of Palestine and Israel, no intention to not escalate tensions, none of that!
Let's forget all of that stuff and let's instead Focus on this.
We want you to consider us to be slightly more feminist or imagine that this is somehow part of a continuum that began with Martin Luther King or the great martyrs of the civil rights movement and I pray that I intuit that those martyrs of the civil rights movement will be Disgusted by what this party has come to represent.
The betrayal of ordinary working people.
The willingness to fill America with poor food and bad pharma.
The willingness to perpetuate endless wars.
The lack of vision, the lack of clarity, the lack of spirit, the lack of morals.
Can anyone seriously claim that the great American civil rights leaders would go, We've left this movement in safe hands.
It's pretty appalling, isn't it, to watch?
And again, even when it comes to the extraction of Biden, there's no There's no authenticity.
Look at how Jill Biden describes what took place.
And you sort of think, well, hold on a minute, they just realised this dude was unelectable.
They tried for as long as possible, through the media, to say, no, he's sharp as a tack, he's brilliant, there's nothing wrong with him, it's racist to say he's got Alzheimer's or he's suffering from dementia or senility or whatever condition you might attribute to a person so clearly unable to communicate.
It's wrong that you say that.
And now they're acting like it was a sort of an act of supreme self-sacrifice.
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If we find him, because at the moment he's AWOL in Brazil.
But we'll find him.
We'll find him, baby.
And we've got so much more to talk about from the National Convention.
Mostly what I want to talk about is the lack of meaning, the lack of purpose, the lack of policy.
We'll be doing all of that in a minute.
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Let's have a look at this moment where Joel Biden hauls him under the bus.
And weeks ago when I saw him dig deep into his soul and decide to no longer seek re-election and endorse Kamala Harris.
Now I like this speech from AOC.
AOC worked as a waitress and a bartender and has become a congressperson and is good in public.
Let's have a look at this speech and just I wonder to which policy she is pertaining and referring with the claims that America will improve and remember that again this is sort of mad like when you watch all of this kind of um righteousness you know this is the party that's in government right now like they're in government right now now like It's like, sort of, isn't it like the kind of pleas that you would offer to a bewildered, lost, and weary lover?
I'll change!
I promise you I'll change.
Why don't you change now?
Change now.
You're in government right now.
You could be doing this stuff now if you wanted to, if you were serious about it.
Ever since I got elected, Republicans have attacked me by saying that I should go back to bartending.
But let me tell you, I'm happy to any day of the week because there is nothing wrong
with working for a living.
Because we know that Donald Trump would sell this country for a dollar if it meant lining
his own pockets and greasing the palms of his Wall Street friends.
God, what about when Joe Biden spoke to the financial industry, literally on Wall Street, and said, I can promise you nothing will change.
You've got nothing to worry about.
It's all of the enthusiasm, all of the excitement.
What is it founded upon?
I can tell you quite literally nothing.
And we'll get into that in a minute because they're still using the documentation that they had prepared for a Biden candidacy.
They didn't even change the name Biden.
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Now let's get into this!
The harsh facts of the matter.
There are no policies.
CNN, here, listen, come on a journey with me, where CNN, under the tutelage and stewardship of Jake Tapper, discuss how Joe Biden's policies are still present in the documentation that accompanies Kamala's candidacy.
Why?
Because it's better that it's vague.
Why?
Because it's better that no commitment has to be made.
Why?
Because this entire election is being fought on the basis of obfuscation.
Like, what actually are you voting for?
As this convention demonstrates, it's little more than an attempt to engender certain emotion.
Just a whoop-up, a storm of meaningless enthusiasm.
And that sense that you have got, that understanding that you have, that there's nothing there, that the Emperor is not only naked but also scabied, is now demonstrably true on the basis of this discussion.
Have a look at this and pay close attention.
David Chalian, President Biden dropped out of the race a month and a day ago.
You wouldn't know that if you read the Democratic platform because it repeatedly refers to President Biden's second term.
There are roughly 19 or 20 mentions of President Biden's second term.
They've had a month and a day to update it.
Why haven't they?
There won't be one of those by the second term.
We know that.
And, you know, listen, the platform was largely, the draft of it, put in place and voted on earlier this summer.
And I think in talking to some folks, the idea of reopening the platform to try to fit in not yet fully developed Kamala Harris policies while they were quickly changing, they thought they would be opening a can of worms, right?
And that there would be...
Not yet fully developed, i.e.
there are no meaningful policies.
They're not going to fight on policy.
They're going to fight on keeping Kamala Harris out of the way, hoping that the constant media condemnation of Trump, plus his own style of rhetoric, let's face it, are enough to galvanise those that loathe them into voting.
So it's an entirely negative campaign.
It's not based on a vision.
Why is it not based on a vision?
Well, because the Democrat Party work for the same interests that ultimately have their claws into all political parties, whether you see this from a bureaucratic deep state perspective, or what Mike Benz would call the blob, or from a global corporatist perspective, and the kind of interests That control corporations, the kind of bureaucratic interests that seem to be able to manage policy, whether you see that on a global level, something like the WEF or the IMF or the WHO, or something like the Atlantic Council, a kind of think tank that will capture control of the Democratic Party.
What we're ultimately discussing here are superficial and emotive issues, and which ones are more evocative to you?
All of a sudden some fights about what goes in the platform and they wanted to avoid that at all costs so they're willing to take the hit on the fact that the platform is sort of a relic of the Biden era because it's a non-binding thing.
They'll vote officially today as part of the party business to put it into effect but as you know it has no binding capacity.
Meaningless!
They're gonna vote on a meaningless document full of meaningless promises for a meaningless party in a meaningless election.
My god!
What are we going to do?
And we should note that this also allows Vice President Harris to stay vague, stay, you know, unspecific.
That's from the Biden platform, that's not ours.
Let's just stay vague.
Vagueness is our friend.
A time where you need clarity, transparency, decentralization, real leadership, honesty, a true vision.
For whatever side of the political divide you stand upon, surely we agreed upon this.
This is an apocalyptic moment.
War is mounting everywhere.
Disease is mounting everywhere.
And yet, through these trials, we may emerge victorious if we were willing to receive the relevant lessons.
This we can at least do individually, for surely the establishment is not ready for those lessons.
But that's just what I think.
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This is Matt Taibbi.
Talking to Fox, of all people, Fox News, of all institutions, of all channels and all outlets, about Kamala Harris' utilisation of Google Ads that are deliberately deceptive.
Remember, we live in an age where misinformation and hysteria around misinformation are continually the bell that is rung in order to legitimise censorship.
And yet, when it comes to campaigning, misinformation is a viable strategy.
Let's have a look at Matt Taibbi, Great journalist, good man, on Fox, describing just how despicable this is.
So let's say you googled Harris economic vision.
So you get an AP headline, okay?
VP Harris's economic vision, lower costs and higher wages.
That's true.
That's her economic vision, she says.
So AP reports that.
Underneath it, as if it's the first line of the story by AP, it says a future where every person has the opportunity not just to get by, but to get ahead.
We won't go back to failed trickle-down policies that hurt.
So it appears as if it's a news article, and then you can see highlighted at the top, paid for by the Harris campaign.
Maybe not legal, maybe not against Google's policies, but you know, tricky for folks who are trying to get their information.
I would say it's beyond tricky.
That's, you know, diabolical.
You know, we've known for a while that news agencies have had the ability to do things like digitally paste ads into video content.
They can also do things like in the last cycle, some of the Biden folks were caught in a Zoom call video talking about a tactic where if somebody typed in the search terms Biden
and senile, they would at some point later in the day see a video of Biden speaking clearly
about something. But that's different from this. This, you know, is confusing the reader, also
bringing in, you know, a legitimate news organization that, as I understand it, is unaware that
this was being done.
And, you know, it raises all sorts of questions because is the search result organic?
Are the rest of the results organic?
I mean, there's so many things that you don't know.
Yeah, indeed.
And, you know, there was this other issue with people Googling after the Trump assassination attempt, and just all these weird things would come up.
They couldn't pull up articles and learn more about it, and Google said basically that was some sort of safety mechanism, right?
Yeah, so Google back in 2017, they instituted something called Project Owl, and this was designed to change the way that the search engine worked.
They wanted to change the standard for what kinds of results would pop up.
And they switched to something that they call authority, which basically means that you're going to sources
that may not be as close to what your search is, but will use sources that they consider reliable.
So the example that they gave to me over the phone was, if you type in baseball,
instead of seeing your local little league, it would show mlb.com, all right?
And as a result, after that, the New York Times even did a story about this,
traffic to alternative media plummeted almost instantaneously as a result of that.
Now, they can do all kinds of other things.
And that's one of the reasons why people have become so distrusting of the search results,
because you have no idea whether they're messing with the algorithm to make sure
that you're not seeing truthful reporting.
We live in an age where bewilderment is the precondition for citizen management.
Think for a moment back to the Olympic opening ceremony.
What was the point of something so deliberately provocative, unusual and ugly?
they can Google and see what happens when they put in these kind of searches.
We live in an age where bewilderment is the precondition for citizen management.
Think for a moment back to the Olympic opening ceremony.
What was the point of something so deliberately provocative, unusual and ugly?
Well, it was an evident desecration of principles that used to be regarded, quite rightly, as
Look now at the DNC and the hysteria and hypocrisy surrounding the celebration of Joe Biden's forced departure.
Look at the delight In Hillary Clinton's eyes, as a crowd shouts, lock him up, something that she would not like to be the recipient of herself.
And if it's anything other than self-interest, then it has to be a principle.
But it isn't.
It is just self-interest that motivates most of their positions.
We may possibly live in a reality that's not only curated by our senses and their limitations, but the information we're given and who pulls the strings and makes the decisions when it comes to what information we see.
and as Matt Taibbi just pointed out, it's likely that if they can promote information
that is favourable to Kamala Harris explicitly there through paid advertising elsewhere,
independent media is being relegated and undermined in favour of traditional media outlets and
their reporting which is in turn supportive of the establishment and their agenda.
You live in a curated reality.
We'll have Robert Epstein on the show soon, in fact.
We'll have to email him.
He won't even accept an email off of Gmail, as a matter of fact.
He says that Gmail is owned by Google, and if you communicate on that, it's not safe.
It's all being stockpiled and kept, and you're living in a completely controlled and surveilled reality.
And I don't mean that in a Hysterical fashion, I mean it in a perfectly reasonable, plausible, evident and obvious manner.
What they continually require, they, the sets of interests that benefit from crisis, is the opportunity to continually surveil, to censor at will, to generate election results just by creating emotional responses rather than delivering on policies.
And the way that things are now, it's not likely to alter, is it?
We're Too easily duped, too easily swayed by senseless information, too unwilling to sacrifice in order to grow towards better values together, too willing to consume, too willing to implode inwardly into self-centeredness.
I'm just talking about myself here actually, I'm not even talking about anybody else.
Man, we've got to wake up.
We've got to wake up fast.
But that's just what I think.
Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
I'm going to give you three options now for what we're going to do next.
I've got some brilliant things, and I'll be excited to talk about any of them.
One, did you see John Rich, the country singer?
He's, by the way, my conversation with him is up We're up on Locals now and it's brilliant.
You might have seen his conversation with Jordan Peterson where he talks about the Bible in the most literal sense.
That the Bible is something that is literally word for word true and has to be obeyed.
If you want to see me talking about Jordan Peterson and John Ritchie's conversation about the Bible, put one into the Rumble Chat or the Awaken Wonder Chat and we'll go with that.
If you want to see me talking about Jordan Peterson and Douglas Murray discussing the ongoing demoralisation of populations that's being experienced throughout the West, and where I agree with them and where I disagree with them, press 2 and we'll do that.
That's for Jordan Peterson and Douglas Murray talking about the decline and demoralisation of Western populations.
And if you want to see me talk about Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith, talking about Joe Rogan's, inverted commas, endorsement of Bobby Kennedy and Trump's reaction on social media, press three.
I'll give you like a minute to work that out while we have a quick look at a little message from one of the supporters of our show, without whom we wouldn't be able to do this.
So one 4.
John Rich and Jordan Peterson on the Bible.
2.
Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson on demoralization of Western populations.
3.
Tucker and Dave Smith on Joe Rogan's endorsement of Bobby Kennedy.
1, 2 or 3 and we'll come back to you with that story right after this message.
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Apart from some real jackasses pressing the number four, which wasn't one of the options, there's a lot of threes.
So we're going to start with three.
So after so now you can vote between two and one and three is Tuck Up and Dave Smith discussing the kind of furore around Kingmaker Joe Rogan.
Uh, Massey, who cuts up our show and a lot of our content and is a vital creative partner, I know you're watching Massey, shout out to you, mate, showed me a brilliant sort of post where people were saying that Joe Rogan is like a sort of, uh, Khan-Mongol ruler who sort of brings intellectuals before him to explain stuff and then gets angry if the information is contradictory or Insufficient.
It's a pretty funny analysis, I suppose, because you wouldn't describe Joe Rogan as a traditional intellectual, certainly not an academic intellectual, even though he's obviously got a great deal of intuitive intelligence.
So when he said something like, I support Bobby Kennedy, or he didn't really say that, did he?
He said, I like RFK and he's not contributing to the Sturm und Drang and Invective.
You know, it made an impact.
Note that the Kamala campaign cut content up to make it look like when he was saying she could win, that it was an endorsement.
So, Joe Rogan is significant in the culture.
Uniquely, perhaps, as the person who created, in fact, the sort of streams that we, right now, still yet swim in.
The independent, open-minded, neither right nor left, generally suspicious of the establishment and willing to form relationships beyond the traditional left-right boundaries.
That space has been created by Joe Rogan, and certainly he epitomises it.
And look at the early attempts at cancellation that he endured.
The N-word one, the ivermectin one.
So he's pretty significant in the space.
Let's see Taka Carlson, again, one of the other Giants of this space.
Talking with Dave Smith, who Joe Rogan said we ought look to when trying to understand the political space better.
Asset 28, guys.
Because the two of them are pointing out that... 28, 28, guys.
28.
It's not on the first.
Thank you.
The two of them discussing, you know, how Joe Rogan's endorsement solicited an unusual reaction from the Trump campaign and in a way what his impact culturally is.
So Rogan, who I just want to say for the record I really love and I revere as a pioneer in media really more than, I mean Roger Ailes level kind of changed everything.
Yes, I just always want to say that because I really believe it.
But he seemed to uh endorsed bobby kennedy then he comes out and says no i
was just i just like bobby kennedy oh i like bobby kennedy too for the record um he's a nice
man but i was not endorsing him rogan said and i don't really like talk about politics that much i'm i'm
summarizing uh but if you want to know like what i think just listen to to dave uh that was
kind of funny and cool that he said that wait so when uh rogan tweeted that and i mean like it's
just you know like i couldn't even look on my phone for like hours after that because it's
just like and he he texted me.
It was one of the funniest texts I've ever gotten.
Rogan texted me and he goes, Oh, I didn't even realize that I stirred up a whole riot on Twitter, but I sent all the looters to your house.
Oh, that's pretty good.
Which is, I was like, yeah, that is really, but I was like, I'll take him.
I love this.
I like to lose.
But also, the moment really is, it's because Joe is such a, like, you know, I know him pretty well.
We're like pretty good friends at this point.
And he is exactly what you say.
Yeah.
Like, that's him.
I've noticed.
Everybody who, if you watch the show, you already know who he is.
So it's like, he wasn't, He doesn't even think like I'm going to be making an endorsement today on my show about which candidate I want to throw my people's support behind.
He literally just someone asked him a question and he was just having a moment like he was just like I do like this Bobby Kennedy guy you know he seems kind of like he's read books about stuff and he wants to discuss ideas and not just like personal attacks and I really like that.
I agree with that.
And yeah I mean I kind of I tend to agree with that too.
I also just by the way I mean I was just so furious at Trump supporters who were like giving Rogan shit for that and then I just thought it was maybe the stupidest thing Trump's done in the campaign so far was that he posted on truth social attacking Joe Rogan for it and it's like man is any is anyone around him to just be like no you don't go to war with Joe Rogan no that's the teachers union you should
Yeah, right?
You're like, what?
But it's also, like, even whether he's supporting you or not, that's your teacher's union, you know?
He's, again, like I said before, it's not left versus right.
It's dissident versus the regime, and this is the guy who cracked the corporate media.
He's the guy who cracked the state's monopoly on information.
That is true.
So, come on, what are you doing here?
And he said, also, he's just so removed It's really just the flaw in Trump is that he said, uh, it'll be interesting to see how much Joe Rogan gets booed at the next UFC event.
And you're like, do you?
Wow!
think Joe Rogan's gonna get booed at a U... Okay. All right.
I know that Donald Trump, I know how your mind works, and it's, it's, there's great
things about it, and then there's things that hold you back, but I know that you think that
since they love you at the UFC event, they're your people, and they'll hate anybody
who's not supporting you, but actually they really love Joe Rogan, and they're not gonna
be booing him.
Wow! There you go, guys. So, I suppose what we're experiencing is, well, it's interesting
to see them both be a little critical of the Trump campaign there, and the fact that Trump
might be operating a little loco, and a little without handlers in some spaces.
That's pretty interesting.
I also think that the affection and interest in Bobby Kennedy is something that is notable and worth commenting on.
Because I think there's a... Is there, would you agree with me, a kind of thirst for independence?
Isn't there a recognition that all establishment parties and party institutions are somewhat owned by financial interests?
Is anyone talking about, for example, ending donations?
Is anyone talking about ending the ability of people in Congress to own stocks and shares in companies that they regulate?
Is anyone talking about further federalisation, the maximum amount of empowerment of states, then boroughs, then communities, then towns, then individuals?
Now I know that you'll be saying that's a libertarian principle, and yes it is, but it's also an anarchist one, actually.
And I wonder if we are missing something.
I wonder if the possibility for a kind of alliance between independent political thinkers and independent-minded politicians is something that we ought be pursuing.
i.e.
states and state institutions ought march, ought be opposed, and we have to have a little look at some genuine alternatives.
That's just what I think though.
Why don't you let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
So what was after three?
I think a lot of you were saying number two.
That's Douglas Murray and Jordan Pearson.
Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson had a pretty interesting conversation about the decline of the West and the demoralization of populations.
Globalism has some pretty observable effects, doesn't it?
That's just off the top of my head.
There seems to be a lot of concern about migration in Western nations.
Across the world, beyond the West even, there's concern about agriculture and what's happening to farmers.
It seems that top-down edicts are disempowering farmers, often under the auspices of creating Environmental benefits but simultaneously billionaires are buying up farmland and laboratories are creating fake meats and patenting seeds.
Is it possible that there's a kind of global endeavor to centralize all power, control all food and resources and use technology to implement citizen management at a never-before-seen scale?
Is it possible that migration as well as corporate globalism, the idea of That culture is dropped on you from above?
That every high street, every main street looks the same?
That all of the food you eat is saturated in sugar and seed oils and salt so that you are placed on a conveyor belt of ill health that a pharmaceutical industry can benefit from?
Is it right that migration is surging everywhere to create deliberate destabilization?
Is it possible The claim that accepting refugees and even illegal migration is undergirded by compassion when it seems that the establishment lacks compassion so clearly elsewhere.
What do we do when we possibly disagree with people when it comes to a subject line migration?
Is it possible that we could have referenda?
Is it possible that one community could say, well we want to have illegal migration in our community.
Let's speed up the processes to facilitate it.
Where other communities might say, we don't want migration here.
In short, is centralised power always centrally corrupted?
Let's have a look at Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson discussing the decline of the West, and in particular the demoralisation of populations, which is the kind of subject subject, that surely a consensus can be achieved even
between polarised communities. The left and the right would have to surely agree that demoralisation,
which is a kind of spiritual despair, is taking place everywhere. Let's have a look at
it.
I said recently, before these riots happened, I said, you know, it would be, and I managed
to say this to you in private before Jordan, but I said it would be madness to, if, I don't
know, if people from the Indian subcontinent made up 3% of your population, it would be
madness to try to demoralise that population or to try to find ways to just say that they
were nothing and never had been anything and it was sort of best if they just tried to
sidle through their lives without harming anyone.
Why would you do that to 3% of the population?
Among other things, it's rude, it's cruel, it's unusual.
And that 3% of the population is a significant amount of the population.
You don't want to demoralize 3% of the population.
Okay.
Why would you do that to a majority?
Who is so insane that they want to do this to majority populations?
And the answer seems to be, well, we're finding out.
We are finding out.
Well, okay, let's delve into that on the ideational front, I mean... Well, we're finding out, I say Douglas Murray is intellectual morrisy, and J.P.
is academic kermit.
It's been said before, but, you know, it's pretty clear he started kermit halfway, pretty evidently, to a quite good Jordan Peterson impression.
I would say, who would want to do that?
Well, my sense is that it's this metastasization of Marxism.
It's the spirit that metastasized Marxism that's bringing this about, and consciously.
And so you have the people that hold the center.
The majority of people who approximate some implicit ideal, however poorly, and then you have people who are perhaps unable to do that, or who are unwilling to do it, or who are even opposed to it, and they occupy the margin.
And there's many of them.
There are a plethora.
And the postmodernists, especially the modern queer theorists, let's say, Just want to bring that margin into the center, by whatever means necessary.
Now, I think there's a profound philosophical misunderstanding that accompanies that desire.
Although if the underlying desire at the base is just the desire for chaos, which is certainly possible, then it's not a mistake, it's not a bug, it's a feature.
No, we tend to believe in the West that an idea has its opposite and that progress might be obtained by watching the war of a thesis and its antithesis.
Hmm, okay, synthesis, sort of Eric Fromm's idea, thesis, antithesis, synthesis.
But I think what we're actually experiencing is a kind of bewilderment and delirium.
That power benefits, the powerful benefit from crises and confusion.
Obviously I've been thinking about this a great deal.
I think about it all of the time.
This is how I put it succinctly and obviously.
If during a financial crisis, financial interest can benefit, do you think you will see less or more financial crisis?
If in a health crisis, health industry or the medical industry or pharmaceutical industry, to be yet more specific, benefit, do you think we're likely to see more health crises or the categorization of events as crises in order to expedite the process of profit?
If war benefits the military-industrial complex, do you think we're going to see less or more war?
After long, hard journeys, cultivated something of a moral center, it seems implausible that there would be interests that would sooner see children die and cities demolished than accept that there are more important things in life than profit and material possessions.
But the fact is that the most consistent, powerful and significant donors to the Washington class or the City of London class or the powerful elites that dominate and govern across the globe either through the auspices and theatre of democracy and lord alone knows we saw a lot of it at the DNC there.
...are the beneficiaries of crisis.
So you will see more and more crises.
You will see more and more events that are exploitable.
During the pandemic, do you not sometimes forget even the uneasy statistic that there was a wealth transfer of trillions of dollars in the favour of the already wealthy and powerful?
Do not think it's likely, therefore, that crises will further be implemented as citizen management and citizen control becomes more difficult, as immediate communication means you no longer have polarised political communities, but in fact, almost heat maps of new alliances emerging, where, as Dave Smith said in his conversation with Tucker, because I was watching it, ...said that what we have now are peripheral forces opposing establishment forces.
An analysis I first became aware of in the writing of Martin Goury.
So, yes, I believe there is a demoralising crisis at the heart of Western culture, and potentially at the heart of all culture, and that when there are crises, we are more likely in our personal lives to yield to authority.
Take, for example, a personal anecdote where you have faced medical crisis or legal crisis.
Do you become more willing to subject yourself to authority in those conditions?
I know that I do.
And it takes special people indeed and Lord alone knows that none of us are special in the ultimate tribunal unless it is through Him.
So perhaps what we have to do is find a way to...
Enliven the flame within us, to be willing to embrace real service, to be willing to look beyond the analysis and condemnation that passes for news coverage these days, to mint and forge our own heroes and our own movements, deploying this technology artfully, and being willing, most of all, when building this new kingdom, to overcome and avoid the hatred that they benefit from so strongly When we yield to it.
When we hate among one another.
But hey, that's just what I think.
Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
All that remains is for me to put on a little bit of old Jordan Peterson and John Rich.
Jordan Peterson and John Rich had a chat.
I liked it because John Rich is what I would call a kind of meaty, carnal Christian confronting continually Jordan Peterson.
In fact, forgive me for telling you that I contacted both Jordan Peterson and John Rich after this conversation And I said to Joel Rich, I like the way he kept saying, you know, commit to Jesus Christ right now!
Accept his name!
Surrender to Christ right now on your show!
And Joel said, well I did, I've done that already.
I've done it a couple of days ago.
You know, I've tried my best.
Listen, leave me alone.
I loved it.
And I like seeing, obviously as a new Christian, Christianity becoming more prevalent in the cultural conversation.
I want to be clear with you lot.
I don't mind if you're a Muslim or atheist or Jewish.
I don't mind at all.
It's a personal journey of faith.
It's an incredible thing to be saved.
It's incredible to experience something that I know the powerful would prevent if they could.
The certain knowledge that this is not all that there is.
The veil has been lifted.
The scales have fallen.
I'm sure you may have different ways of getting there, but as long as we will arrive at this place together, a place where we feel confident that we can confront power, knowing that there is a great force available to us, then we have a chance.
A chance of saving the world.
Not that it's our job to save the world, that job's already taken.
Let's have a look at John Rich and Jordan Peterson hashing it out around Christ and Christianity.
And that most potent and controversial of documents, the Bible itself.
Right, okay, you know, I mean, yeah, I've had an experience already.
Shane, what you mean?
I don't take any issue with what you've said.
Yeah, no, I don't think you do, and I'm not trying to have an issue.
I'm just speaking... No, I understand.
I've studied what you've been saying, and I know you look at the Bible, it seems, at least, very metaphorically and very intellectually, you look at it in those kinds of terms.
And at the end of the day, it's not a metaphor, and it's not intellectualism.
Like, when you die, And you see him, what's he going to say to you?
What are you going to say to him?
I mean, that's the ultimate question that everybody watching this interview is going to have to deal with.
Everybody.
It says, every knee shall bow, every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
Every knee, including John Rich and Jordan Peterson and the devil himself and everybody else.
Every knee.
is gonna have to bow.
And so, whether you believe that or not doesn't change the fact that that is what is going to happen.
And I happen to believe, because it says in the scripture, that the Lord reveals himself to every man.
Every man knows it.
He says, I stand at the door and knock, and if any man hears my voice and opens the door, I'll come in with him, I'll sit down with him, I'll dine with him, I'll have dinner with him, and he with me.
And so, you hear him knocking on that door, And you walk up, and you open it, and you let him in?
That is what that means.
You have invited him into your house.
Let's call your body, this is my house.
I invite him in, he sits down, he becomes, he's living in my house now.
That's what that means.
It also says he won't knock forever.
He will not knock forever.
John Rich is laying it out for JP pretty seriously there.
Let me know where you stand on that and if you remain open to spiritual solutions or if you see Christianity as a dogma of conformity and control.
And I invite you to look in that book because there's some pretty profound stuff in there.
I'm experiencing it myself and at a point where the Democratic Party's National Convention produces a manifesto that they have basically already scribbled out.
Because it's still full of the name Joe Biden, where there's nothing but fanfare, cacophony and emptiness, clanging bells and dumb cymbals being rung.
We have to look elsewhere.
I remain open-hearted, of course, to all of the various faiths that you may practice, and I'm so grateful that I found my own.
I pray that together we can impose this obviously corrupt power.
But that's just what I think.
Let me know what you think in the comments and the chat.
Where did Glenn Greenwald go?
What happened to Glenn Greenwald?
Where'd he go?
To win a Pulitzer Prize?
Where did he go?
Somewhere in Brazil?
Where'd that guy gone?
I miss him already.
Some of you said, what do you think about Peter Thiel being on Joe Rogan?
Yeah, I'm really interested in that because Peter Thiel, of course, is an investor.
I don't think he's a board member.
I don't know that he has any sort of, what do I want to say, control.
And Rumble are, I have to tell you, extremely good at just leaving content creators the hell alone.
They're extremely loyal.
But yeah, we've got to be open to that.
I'd love to get Peter Thiel on here.
I would love it.
I would love it!
I would love it if Peter Thiel came on here.
There's a reference for one person.
Alright guys, well thank you very much for joining us today.
We've got some good stuff coming up next week.
Neil Oliver's gonna join us for a live watch-along of Kamala's speech.
That's on, uh, so we'll be doing that live, wherever you're watching it.
When Kamala's on doing her speech at the DNC, we'll be there, me and Neil Oliver.
British, just watching it, like, sort of eating popcorn in the dead of night, trying to understand it.
Maybe smoking cigars, I don't know.
And we'll be doing a special episode with him.
And John Rich is on our show on Friday.
And Barack Obama's coming.
No, we've not got Barack Obama.
We've got loads of stuff though.
Who else have we got coming up?
Robert Epstein, the dude that explains how Google works.
That's coming up.
And if you're a member of the AwakendWonder Locals community, you could just, well you can't just turn up, but if you are, if you could demonstrate that you're a member, you can come and see me tomorrow night here.
So could you post it in the chat for us?
Or you can come next week.
We could probably accommodate, it's a small room.
But it'll be good stuff.
And we've got some brilliant, exciting things, specials, coming up for our Awakened Wonders.
John Rich will be on Friday.
We've got a lot of stuff.
Hope you've enjoyed the show.
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I like you.
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We'll see you tomorrow, not for more of the same, but for more of the different.
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