“Something BIG is about to happen” - EXCLUSIVE Alex Jones Interview on INFOWARS shut down - 391
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This is another Friday, same old tiny hack.
We've got an amazing show today because Alex Jones is on.
You might think, well I've seen enough of Alex Jones, what else is there I could possibly know about Alex Jones?
But what does Alex Jones tell you about our culture?
What does he tell you about news media?
What does he tell you about censorship?
What does he tell you about Perjury, litigation, lawfare, the necessity for sensitivity when speaking in an ad-hoc fashion about extremely contentious and difficult subjects, the necessity sometimes for mere culpers, contrition, compunction, Christianity!
So many c-words, baby!
Alex Jones will be with us in a few minutes.
If you're watching us on YouTube, remember we're only there for the first few minutes precisely because of the issue Of censorship.
Remember, this is the world's most dangerous man, the establishment's most hated person, the single most censored man in history, the first media figure to be erased in one day, de-platformed before it was a common term, and not just de-platformed, sued, attacked, and criminally charged.
What did he do that was so wrong?
Obviously, he said things that were pretty appalling, particularly if you're a parent.
What were they appalling?
He said that Sandy Hook didn't happen.
That's what he said.
And the Sandy Hook families were obviously Upset about that.
But do you think what drives these legal cases is the transgressive things that he's said and how that hurts people's feelings?
Or do you think that it's possible he has views that deeply rattle the people who run America?
Is Alex Jones crazy?
Is Alex Jones fundamentally right about a lot of things?
Is he both?
Why do they really want to shut him down?
One thing I'll remind you of is that he predicted 9-11.
That's the thing that I struggle to get by.
Imagine I mean, almost anybody that prior to 9-11 said, Osama, there's this guy, Osama bin Laden, you've not heard of him yet, but the CIA are going to blame him for attacks on the World Trade Center.
And then that happened.
I mean, Jesus.
Anyway, we talk about all of that and the deep state and Tucker and Rogan and who's next, the Clintons, nuclear war.
All of this has been up, by the way, on Alex Jones, thanks for joining us.
Russell, it's great to be here with you.
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Here's my conversation with Alex Jones. We'll be with you for a couple of minutes guys on
YouTube but then it's Alex Jones. We don't want to keep him up for very long because you know
he's Alex Jones damn it. All right let's have a look at that conversation.
Alex Jones thanks for joining us.
Russell it's great to be here with you it's such a critical time.
Alex Jones is actually happening.
InfoWars is being shut down.
The FBI appear to be involved, the CIA appear to be involved.
Can you tell us, do you see this as a pivotal moment?
If they can come for you and take you down, if they can reclaim your assets, does that mean that this is the first Domino, the next is Tucker, then it's Rogan, that this is, in a sense, the beginning of a series of attacks that will shut down the free speech space?
Well, that's right.
What they're doing to me is a beta test for everybody else.
And I'm just blessed they're doing it, because it shows we've been on the right side of history, on the right target.
But if I told you all what happened, the FBI went in court, admitted they're running it.
They have the CIA guy, they got caught by Project Veritas spinoff group admitting it all.
That's all well known now, but what are we saying they're so scared of?
We love God, we love humanity, we love freedom, we love justice.
So yes, Our message is scaring the system, so they're trying to shut us down right now.
And as bad as this is, I am extremely blessed to be in this position right now.
So yeah, I'm more concerned about why is the deep state trying to shut me down right now Is it a Trump assassination?
Is it World War III?
Is it economic collapse?
I don't know, but definitely big stuff's coming because they're so desperate to shut us down right now.
It's a long story, but two weeks ago, they tried to, without a court order, with the CRO and the bankruptcy against the law, shut us down without a court order.
Now there's a court hearing tomorrow.
They may shut us down tomorrow, but there is a desperation to shut us off because they don't want us on air when we cover what is about to happen.
So I don't think about me.
Which, I'm fine.
I love talking about me.
But I'm not dumb.
This isn't about me.
Something big is about to happen.
Why are they so desperate to get me off air?
So you feel it's because of your ability to report and offer insights into stories that they're having to expedite and speed up this process.
So, we should all hold our breath for something terrifying, which is... I don't even like thinking in those terms, Alex.
I really don't.
I do have enough anxiety.
But could you tell me how this unfolded?
How we went from the sort of trial that we all saw, where it was about compensation for the victims of Sandy Hook, and I've reported on this before, In a sense, like, the way this has been reported on is not that you said some things that were insensitive and untrue about Sandy Hook.
It's almost been portrayed as if you did Sandy Hook.
That's the kind of, like, the way that the messaging has been kind of confused and mangled, the way that these kind of, the way these stories play out in the public sphere.
How have we gone from that to, we're claiming all of your assets, is it true they're taking your archives?
Who would ultimately own InfoWars in this instance?
Well, that's a great Russell Brand 2.0 cut right to the chase.
They bragged after they won these two court cases with the judges already found me guilty two years ago in Texas and Connecticut in controlled jurisdictions.
They, the judges found me guilty.
They had show trials with HBO literally producing and the truth versus Alex Jones scripts to the judges.
It was all literally a movie script, a movie scene.
And so now they first said, oh, he's got hundreds of millions of hidden money.
That wasn't true.
Then they went, okay.
And now they were in Reuters last week saying, we don't want money.
We want him off the air.
So they're finally being completely honest.
So because they won't do a settlement and because all this is unfolding, the judge can shut us down tomorrow.
He may wait a few weeks.
We'll, we'll find out tomorrow, but, but Russell, that's where we are is pure desperation by the power structure.
And so it's very simple.
Sandy Hook is like a franchise, a money-raising thing, a Democratic Party fundraising deal.
I barely ever even talked about it, never even said the things that they said I said.
I have a right to say those things.
I didn't say those things.
So they basically built up this thing of, well, we've got a populist that's anti-globalist, is very popular.
We'll just say he's doing all these things he didn't do.
Pissing on graves, harassing families, doing all this.
And then they get a billion and a half dollar judgment.
They asked for $2.76 trillion.
Folks, I know that doesn't sound real.
Type in Alex Jones, $2.76 trillion.
They asked as if I ever had $10 million just to create this wall of hysteria and fear.
And so now they're trying to take me off air right now with 140 something days left to the election.
They're trying to panic everyone because they're scared of populism.
They're scared of the people.
They're scared of archetypally Joseph Campbell, you know, the great psychologist Carl Jung, off what I represent.
So they believe if they can defeat and annihilate and tar and feather that populist image, somehow will infect everything else.
But instead, it has turbocharged the show of 30, 40 million viewers a day.
We're as big as we were six years ago before all this started.
And so now they are in complete panic mode.
And two Fridays ago, so 13 days ago, I'm up here at five o'clock.
I'm about to go home to my wife and family.
And I know there's more security here.
I have a private security firm, but they're under the CRO of the bankruptcy.
I said, what's going on?
They go, we don't know.
At nine o'clock, they're locking the doors.
They're going to kick you out.
I called my lawyers.
They said, no, the CRO can't do that under law.
Stop it.
So I said, don't do it.
They said, yeah, we don't have a corridor.
We're not going to.
So they were so desperate.
They might have been trying to assassinate Trump last week.
I don't know.
But the point is, something was supposed to happen in the last 13 days that they wanted me off the air.
I'm not dumb enough to think, oh, this is about me.
No, this wasn't about me.
Desperate, hysterical insanity to get me off the air the last two weeks, outside of court orders, was about something bigger.
Maybe a war.
I don't know, but clearly it's not about me, but in their mindset, in this nexus, they thought I was gonna say or do something when this next event happens that could block them, and that's what I do.
So my only real power is that I understand politics, the world, how systems work, to a little extent, you know, most and most, but not that much.
I'm not trying to say I'm a grand poobah, but I've got an understanding.
So to me, it's not, oh, I'm so important, it's like, If they're so desperate to shut me down, what are they planning?
So that's where we are now, and we could be shut down tomorrow.
The judge has said he may do it, but this is so crazy.
The plaintiffs, the Democratic Party that runs all this, said to Reuters, AP, and a bunch of other publications last week, they said, no, we don't want money.
We wanna shut him down.
And so, again, I ask the question, okay, I reach 20 million people a day, 30 million some days.
Why are they so desperate?
To me, I don't think of me, I think, why are they so desperate, Russell?
Well, it's a big question in the event that you are, if they take your studio.
It seems like it's about taking your assets and taking your studio, slowing you down and preventing you from broadcasting.
It's a very strange time.
The Trump trial appears to have been built of a coagulation of misdemeanors, a couple of alterations in state law, the eventual and inevitable imprisonment of Steve Bannon.
All important right-wing or popular political or commentarative figures are being attacked using the law.
A few months ago I experienced my own attacks.
It seems like Any institution is viable as a conduit for attack, and now I'm, like you, wondering what's coming.
Do you think that ultimately behind this is the CIA, as we saw in that video where we saw that CIA operative saying, yeah, they want to drain his resources, they want to bankrupt him, we saw that, that's sort of something that was on camera, and it's weird that when we get those things on camera that they don't have a greater impact.
I know they reach a lot of people, and I think they galvanize a lot of people, But it seems that they don't have any kind of legal weight, that you're not able to use them in order to oppose this stuff.
What means of opposition do you have here, Alex?
What strategy do you have?
How are you going to protect your archive?
Because I've heard that they're coming for that.
And do you feel like incarceration is a serious and immediate risk?
Well, Russell, that's a great question.
There's a lot of points there.
Again, I just go back to they wouldn't be so hysterical trying to shut me down if something big is about to happen.
So they want me off air because something big is about to happen.
And I'm asking, what is that big event about to be?
But yeah, they.
They're trying to shut down the archives.
They told me, the court appointed people that said two days ago, they said, you're on air saying you have this archive that's free of all our shows.
We've always been free.
Stop that.
That's a crime.
Well, it's not.
It's always been free to air.
So they don't want our archives that predict all this stuff.
I mean, there's incredible predictions there.
And we know evergreen stuff is really powerful.
So they're really scared of what people are going to dig out of that.
And that's really why they wanted to shut me down because reading their own white papers and interviewing top experts and doing this, you know, 14 hours a day and being focused, we have basically predicted what was going to happen.
So they're already worried with billions of views of my predictions.
Well, they go and they watch these predictions.
They know that there's gold there in the fight.
So they are hysterical to shut us down because they say that victors write the history books.
Well, they're getting ready to write the history books.
They don't want records there.
That exposed them, and I appreciate all the support, and I love everybody, but I want people to know nothing about Alex Jones.
They should be thinking, what is it they're about to do that they're so insanely desperate?
That's really where I'm at right now, because this is crazy.
Outside of a court order, 13 days ago, they ordered the shutdown of our company, and tried to order my private security company.
I heard like seven years ago, to close the doors and they didn't do it there was no court
order so they are hysterical so we go oh great our enemy is hysterical they're weak but the fact
that they're so weak is what makes them dangerous why are they so hysterical? Like if it is about
pre-empting some significant event I'm guessing you're saying it's likely that it pertains to
the election.
I've heard you say before that you feel like the election might get cancelled, that there could be a race war in your country, that there could be some other reason to delegitimize or derail the electoral process.
If that were to happen, wouldn't it be reported on by Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson or other people in the space?
Why would it be so significant to remove you and your archive?
I'm not being facetious, Alex.
I know that there are a lot of things that are unique about you.
So it's surely in the uniqueness that the significance must lie, because any of us could report, all of us would see.
What's your intuition on that?
Well, Russell, I'm always blown away by your insight.
I'm not just saying that, it's true.
What an incredible response to what I just said.
Generals always fight till last war.
So if in 2016, and I didn't even know this at the time, but they said this, and it's true, we had the RNC in Cleveland, and a third of the people out there, hundreds of thousands, were wearing my shirts.
We sold like half a million t-shirts the month before.
That was selling at cost.
So the Democrats go there, the deep state goes there, and they see a third of the people wearing my shirts.
They're fighting the last war.
So they think if we shut down Alex Jones, we've shut down Russell Brand, Joe Ruggan, Tucker Carlson, Jimmy Dore, all the thousands of other amazing voices.
They're not that smart, spiritually.
They attack whatever their last enemy was.
So I agree, I'm almost obsolete.
Redundant, vestigial, ceremonial.
But I feel like I've got a little more work to do to warn people about the next front because I don't want to keep doing this forever.
I want to live on a ranch and just fish all day and drive around and, you know, shoot guns and barbecue.
Exactly.
They're worried about me.
They're fighting the last enemy, which they say generals always fight the last army.
So I think that's the answer, is I'm kind of blessed.
They're spending all this time and energy on me while there's all these other... And then I have the paradox of, well, you shouldn't tell them what's really happening.
But that's my superpower, telling the truth.
So they're like, don't give the enemy intel.
Don't tell them what's happening.
They're not going to listen to me anyways.
They always are Machiavelli.
They think if I say the sky's blue, I must be lying.
So to me, I know what's happened.
They know we beat their ass before, Bubba Lies to People.
So they're thinking, beat him, we win.
But meanwhile, it wasn't me spurring all these people.
It was people waking up on their own.
So they're fighting a pyrrhic victory.
They're fighting a battle they already lost.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, that kind of does.
I mean, I suppose one of the moments that was most bizarre and defining when Trump took to the White House was his public call with you.
That's when I think a lot of people kind of recognized, whoa, politics is changing.
Media is changing.
Power is changing.
You weren't in the position you're in now but you were already a person that people had attacked and derided and people have said this guy's crazy and a conspiracy theorist and to see you lauded in that way is obviously an indication of great power and your point that generals fight their last battle is Clearly a significant one.
The media space is changing so rapidly and has continued to change.
Even when you see like a cultural artifact that doesn't contain much import in terms of what it literally symbolizes.
I literally symbolizes a bit oxymoronic, but I mean to see Trump with Logan Paul, you think, wow, the world's different now, man.
The world is different and the machinery of the establishment and you know, I know a lot of your viewers and a lot of mine will say that, Well, hold on.
A candidate from the Republican Party who's already had four years in office is part of the establishment by virtue just of that small inventory of ideas.
My audience love Trump.
I know your audience probably significantly love Trump.
So it seems to me that...
On a global scale, Alex, maybe things are stepping up.
Maybe this is to, you know, do you see it as being connected to the Russian submarines in the Caribbean?
Do you see it connected to the failure of the WHO treaty?
Do you feel like what this precipitates... I totally agree.
Before we answer that question, we're going to have to leave you on a digital cliffhanger and say goodbye to YouTube.
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The power structure's failing because they're losers and scum, and we want prosperity they don't.
And then they try to blame people that don't want to be slaves as if we did it.
No.
The globalists did it.
They started a war with Russia.
They devalued the dollar.
They opened the borders.
And then they want to sit back and point at us that are against it and say, no, it's Russell Bland, it's Alex Jones, it's Joe Rogan, it's Tucker Carlson.
If they just shut up, this all goes away.
No.
We're the ones pointing out the problem because we have families that want to fix it.
So yeah, that's it.
They think that they can shut us up and then it goes away.
No, we're the ones pointing the problem out.
We're not the ones that cause the problem.
So that's what I'm saying is, they're pissed at me.
Because they were disconnected six, seven years ago and thought they were invincible.
And then that didn't happen.
So now they're in panic mode.
They think, well, we'll just crush this guy.
That'll fix it.
And instead it makes us bigger, which I don't enjoy being stepped on or attacked or sued or harassed.
People come to my house at night and, you know, they don't come on my property because, you know, what's going to happen to them.
I mean, I'm not a pussy.
Let's just say that.
But at the same time, again, this is a blessing because these people, We'll not take responsibility for what they've done.
It's not Russell Brand or Joe Rogan or Alex Jones did this.
We're just wanting to survive and have a future.
They have totally screwed themselves.
And so that's where we are.
But we have to ask the question then, what are they willing to do to maintain control?
And I think the sky's the limit.
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I am reminded for some reason, Alex, of a piece of footage I saw of Colonel Gaddafi addressing an Arab Congress, saying to the co-leaders of various Arabian and North African nations Hold on a minute.
They've just killed Saddam Hussein.
They've killed Saddam Hussein.
Anything is possible.
Now, within a short period of time, Gaddafi was dead.
Various coups and resource wars have taken place in all of these territories.
This was the kind of the last version of co-opting power.
This was the last version of resource wars and wars of dominion, which could be the death throes of the dying corpse of nationalism.
Or it could be the emergence of real globalism.
But I feel like that whatever they're doing against you to be truly effective has to be ultimately a part of a plan that will shut down Rogan, that will shut down Tucker.
They have to ultimately do that.
100%.
100%, Russell Brand.
When Trump says they're not after me, they're after you, they're going to get through me.
That's totally true.
I remember a Wall Street Journal article like six years ago before I got banned everywhere saying the left will accept our attack on Assange and the right will accept the attack on Jones.
It was a huge 30-page article and they said once they accept that we'll get them all.
So people need to know they're coming for everybody right now.
Yeah, you're right.
When Julian Assange is not right up there at front of the news cycle, we forget that that guy has been in Belmarsh for like 10 years now simply for exposing the most heinous kind of military corruption and miscreants.
I feel that this escalating tension between Western NATO forces and Russia is reaching a critical point.
Do you, Alex, are we going to see some sort of shift?
Are we going to be in a hot war with Russia anytime soon?
I want to be clear, Russell.
I'm not a Russophile.
I've never been to Russia, but I've studied it.
The West, over 10 years ago, overthrew Ukraine, started the war, moved missiles up their border, We put missiles in 61, Nike missiles in Turkey aimed at Russia, they put missiles in Cuba, that was the Cuban Missile Crisis.
So this is way beyond the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And the West is starting a war with Russia as their political pretext to try to divert from all the things they've done domestically.
So yes, I think we're in the greatest danger we've ever been in, a full thermal nuclear war with the Russians.
They've got missile cruisers off Florida.
They've got nuclear submarines that they're showing us.
They're already there.
They're showing them to us.
To try to get the American people to not be part of this.
So this is a very insane, dangerous moment right now.
And it's so surreal, Russell, that I have trouble even decoding it.
Just a year ago, a year and a half ago, Biden said, we can't send F-16s and tanks to Ukraine.
That's World War III.
Well, now it's not just tanks and F-16s.
It's nuclear weapons at their border and heavy cruise missiles.
So this is so biblically dangerous and insane.
That Americans think Americans are great people, but we have the lowest number of passports for an industrialized country.
The average American thinks we're the only thing on the planet.
They don't get Russia 6,000 miles away, 5,000 miles away, depending on the border.
And Russia has the biggest nuclear arsenal.
And they are, we're at war with Russia.
We are at war with Russia right now.
And if the average American knew the danger they were in, already 8% are against the money to Ukraine, all the rest of those.
But if they realized the incredible danger they were in, they would back off, but they're not backing off.
So that to me is why this is so otherworldly, like a hallucination.
It's just crazy.
I saw a piece of legacy media reporting where the anchor almost breezily said, Russia are doing exercises in the Caribbean, like it was no big deal.
But you said, yeah, it was acknowledged at the beginning of the support for this conflict that troops or boots would mean a hot war and World War Three for Christ's sake.
We all remember that quote and you're right to say that this perhaps is a greater threat, you say is a greater threat, than the Cuban Missile Crisis and we look back at that as some sort of great moment of diplomacy plucked from despair but this time we see no attempt at diplomacy.
We've all seen because of Tucker's conversation with Putin, Putin just said listen we've got no real interest in expansionism or imperialism, this is a regionalised dispute, And because all of us can listen to not only voices like yours, which will always generate some criticism, you're a person that's subject to a lot of attacks, but academics like Jeffrey Sachs or Mearsheimer, like people that are like out of institutions, the same as what happened in COVID.
It wasn't just crackpots and fringe lunatics, there were Stanford scientists and vaccine inventors.
That's the good news.
Humanity's waking up and saying, no, Russell, but The larger problem is these globalists feel insulated from the mistakes they make, but we are literally here at the edge of nuclear Armageddon, and the good news is people are rejecting this.
When people have a chance to hear the truth, they are resonating with it, but absolutely.
And so the globalists know their old financial order is coming to an end.
They know that they're derivatives and all of it's coming to an end.
So what they do in World War I, World War II, they cause a war.
But now we have nuclear weapons and worse.
You can't do this now.
And even their own planners said a year ago, you can't do this.
But they're still going down that road because they won't give up the power.
I don't want to put all the globals to prison.
I don't have a heart on for retribution.
They should be like sent like Napoleon to some island.
The problem is they're not doing that.
So that's why I'm reaching out to people in the FBI, in the government, in academia, in the media, to say, are you really suicidal?
Because the graveyard of civilizations is in Russia.
The Nazis, Napoleon, the list goes on and on.
It's not hype.
Mainline analysts agree.
We are on the verge of thermal nuclear war.
This needs to stop now.
And that's all I'm saying to people.
You know, it seems to me that the desired endpoint seems to be a central global government, principalities that are highly governed through surveillance and technology, the absolute restriction of movement The necessity for a series of mandated actions, medical mandated actions, 15 minute cities, the total control of currency through CBDCs.
I suppose, Alex, this is something you've been talking about For a long while.
And in order to get from where we are now a degree of freedom, albeit freedom that is continually opposed and curtailed and restricted and in a very divided space, you can see now that that is the aim and we're moving incrementally closer to it.
Technology is generally utilised to centralise power, to create opportunity for surveillance.
And what I feel is important and interesting is that they can't just do bird flu and expect that people are going to get locked up in their homes once again or take whatever medications are proposed or accept restrictions on their freedom.
It's going to have to be bigger than that, isn't it?
Or do you think that we do, as is commonly said, We all live in siloed spaces and, you know, there are the people that watch InfoWars and have been watching it for a long time, or the people that watch the other type of media that we're keyed into, and all of those people are like, uh-oh, another pandemic, you ain't getting away with that again.
Or do you think that there are still a significant number of people, in fact a critical number of people, that will continue to be obedient?
We're not at a point, are we, where you're going to have the military siding with the people against the government in a country like yours.
The majority of people in a crisis will still side with the system, but here's the big secret.
From my intel, depending on what technology it is, the establishment is 20 to 100 years ahead.
20 to 100 years ahead, they've got cancer cures.
They've got cloning.
You might not be the same person, but they can tell you are.
You'll have some of the same attributes.
So, they've already got godlike power.
So, the establishment is very arrogant right now that has life extension, and it's got all these incredible technologies, and they're like, we can't give 8 billion people this.
So, They made the decision with their bunkers, with their operations, that we can survive a nuclear war, and they made the decision to carry this out.
But if we're aware of the transhumanist operation, if we're aware of their arrogant operation, and if we're aware when their own... Because the computers don't run things yet.
Robots aren't in control.
They're planning that.
They're still humans in the decision-making process.
So when Yuval Noah Harari says the future's not human by 2045 and all this, they mean that.
But we still, as humans, the only animal that does this, control our own environment.
So we can withdraw from globalist systems that are funding our own destruction and try to build a future system.
But the decision's been made.
If we're just utilitarian, why have 8 billion people?
Why have 9 billion?
The decision has been made.
To get rid of us, we have to say we're sovereign spiritual beings.
We have sovereignty.
We exist and we have a right to live, but you've then got to have a plan.
You can't just say, I'm going to play Xbox and eat Hot Pockets all day.
So the globalists look at people as animals.
Anybody that wakes up, they try to hire them and get them to work for them.
And so that's where we are.
We have to recognize the choice of our destiny is down here, but also tell the globalists, let's say you have a nuclear war, or at least a bioweapon.
Let's say you kill 90% of people.
You've still got 800 million people that are coming to your bunkers in Kauai, Mark Zuckerberg, and your bunkers everywhere, and we're going to dig you out.
That's what Elon Musk is saying, is that you'll never get away with this.
This war will destroy humanity.
It's a bad plan.
I see Musk as a survivalist who was working for them, but he said their plan doesn't work.
So I'm saying scrap the New World Order, Hitler 2.0, eugenics depopulation plan, and figure out a real plan, be honest with people, and that's how we turn this around.
But if they go this direction, Russell, they're gonna lose.
Man, it's terrifying to hear you say that they are 20 years to a century ahead technologically than what they would reveal, but of course that makes sense.
Of course the whole category of top secret and clandestine information is filled with so-called conspiracies that must be true.
Filled with technological advancements, relationships with extraterrestrials, you name it, it'll be in there somewhere.
But above all else is the information that if it were known would cause uprising and the information that if known would level the playing field.
So that means, Alex, doesn't it, that whenever we're having a conversation and we're staying within the prescribed paradigm, we're talking about left v right, we're talking about conservative versus liberal, we're talking about even that which is contained within the culture war, except, I suppose, as how it pertains to the replacement of God with the individual, the annihilation of any category that might be deemed natural, The demonization of sexuality, the demonization of humanity, of humor and humanity, the removal of the idea of the principle of the sacred.
Because if all you're dealing with is little biological units that has no connection to the divine, then it is okay to just engage in citizen management.
How do you interface with conversations that are within the ordinary political paradigm, when truly, surely, based on what you've just said, real power is out of sight.
Real power is concealed.
Real power does not allow us to discuss it.
And if you can just stitch into that somehow, Alex, the ongoing accusation that not only you might be
controlled opposition or I'm controlled opposition, that even a figure like Elon Musk,
due to his various billion dollar contracts through SpaceX or Tesla or whatever it is,
can't truly be the renegade that many of us believe him to be.
How do you map that?
How do you map the fact that people do have relationships within the system?
Why did they make the decision not to wipe out Joe Rogan?
Was he just too valuable to Spotify?
So there's a few things in there, and I know you can talk, man.
So I'm talking about concealed power.
What is like, who's operating, who's pulling the strings of this concealed power?
Can we trust Musk?
Why didn't they destroy Rogan?
No, that's the best question ever.
I can't wait.
I know this is on your show, but I'm definitely going to air this.
It's okay on my show, Russell.
Look, the biggest problem we have Is not believing we're powerful.
So there's evil, there's controllers, there's bad groups, but someone watching and listening knows who they are.
They want freedom.
They want liberty.
They love people.
They love art.
They love culture.
They love, they love this.
Well, you know, you're not controlled.
So MoodPass is Russell Brand good, or is David Icke good, or is Elon Musk good, or is Joe Rogan good, or is, or is, In these people good and say, let's move past that excuse.
What are you going to do?
Because I know, I see through a rose colored darkly as the Bible says.
I have distortions.
I'm not perfect, but I love my wife.
I love my children.
I love everything.
I'm a lover, not a fighter, but I'll fight if I have to.
So the idea that nobody's real, is really an extension of failure and saying to yourself, no one else is good.
It's hopelessness.
The truth is, most people are overall good.
They're not perfect, but if they have leadership, they're good.
So the idea that, oh, Alex Jones and Russell Brand are fakes, well, you just said to yourself, you're not real.
So my response for, I've been on there 30 years, I stopped responding a decade ago to people that say I'm this or that.
What I've done is on record.
Because I love humanity.
And so I tell people that accept that mind virus of, oh, this couldn't be real.
Well, you're not believing you're real because you're good.
You're not perfect, but you want freedom.
I'm talking to people out there like you want freedom, right?
You want justice.
You want a future.
Well, then why would you not say other people exist when I'm promoting freedom and exposing the enemy?
But it's this thing of like, I'm better than you.
I'm good.
I'm pure like a Pharisee that Christ talked about.
You're not good.
I'm good.
That's satanic.
So people need to stop using Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson or Russell Brand or Alex Jones as an excuse.
Oh, those guys are controlled.
You need to be the leaders then and we will boost you.
We will promote you.
And stand together.
And I don't have all the answers, but I have a true heart.
And I'm looking to you.
I love the comments on X and people telling me this is wrong, that's right.
That is my North Star, is that real human communication.
Because I love my children.
I love my wife.
I love my parents.
I love my future kids that aren't even born yet.
My grandchildren.
I believe in humanity.
I'm Team Humanity.
And so I would just say transcend this thing of saying the enemy is all powerful.
That's a lie.
That's the enemy's greatest lie.
They're not that powerful.
People want freedom.
They want art.
They want beauty.
They want success.
And stop using the excuse of Russell Brand's not for real.
Elon Musk isn't for real.
I mean, take Elon Musk.
It's not about kissing his ass because I'm on X. He's devastating them every day with hundreds of millions of views with transgenderism and open borders and world government and carbon taxes and depopulation and replacement migration.
You can't argue with energy to energy.
It's a mathematical equation.
He's literally devastating them Devastating them.
And I'm supposed to sit back and go, I'm a Pharisee to Christ.
You know what?
You're not perfect.
You're going to hell.
I'm literally supposed to sit back and watch devastation of the enemy.
Like they are shitting their pants and go, I could have done it better.
Great.
Get on the field.
Show us what you'll do.
Stop complaining that Russell Brand's bad or Alex Jones, because we're honest about who we are.
You know, like, oh, Alex Jones has been with hundreds of women.
Russell Brand, thousands.
I don't trust them.
Then Saul of Tarsus is hit by a lightning bolt and you say, well, I don't want to listen to him.
He was bad.
No, God comes to the people.
That have been in those positions because they know the groundwork.
And so, I don't want any excuses.
Let's say Russell Brand, Alex Jones, Donald Trump are the devil.
Let's say Tucker Carlson's as bad as he gets.
Great.
Stop bitching.
Show me what you can do instead of claiming everything is controlled.
Because I see Russell where I was at 20 years ago.
A good, open person trying to lovingly help people who's broken out of his cocoon.
He has a powerful spirit.
And people are like, oh, you're not real.
We don't get it.
Russell, I would even respond to those people.
Let's see what they can do, because we are literally trying to stop World War III.
We're literally trying to stop election fraud.
We're trying to turn our energy back on, which the left is literally turning off agriculture, fertilizer, energy, water.
I mean, I'm like, hey, I'm trying to keep your water on, folks.
I've got kids.
I know what this is going to look like in a road warrior scenario.
These globalists are a satanic death cult.
So if you don't join us, You're with the devil.
In fact, I'll give them what they want to hear.
You say I'm with the devil?
No.
Those of you saying there's no hope, those of you saying Christ isn't real, those of you saying God didn't call us to victory, those of you saying that we're given a spirit of overcoming and victory, not of weakness.
When the enemy comes like a flood, the spirit of the Lord Elizabeth centered against it.
You are the Satanists.
I love Jesus Christ.
I want human victory throughout the stars.
And any of you saying that I've served Satan, are servants of Satan, And I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ.
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When did you start doing stuff like that, Alex?
When did you start doing that?
There must have been a phase where, because I would like, you know, I've seen you talk about it elsewhere, where you were turning up at sort of anti-George Bush rallies.
Did you always have that?
Because that's what we just witnessed there was...
That's Alex Jones.
That's the Alex Jones molecule playing out.
Have you always had the ability to do that?
Did you do that stuff at school?
Do you think it's as a result of that football injury?
How do you feel when you see the compilations of the kind of, like, a frog ski and that song?
Have you seen that photo?
I'm angry.
I've had enough of these people.
Have you seen that thing?
Like, when is it that you realized you had this channeling ability?
And do you ever worry that that channeling ability It has in it, it's vulnerable, it's very alive, it's very beautiful, it's very powerful, but it exposes you to stuff, huh?
Have you always done that, mate?
No, it's... Russell, you really want to know?
Yeah.
I mean, no, I... Under the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and to the 90s, everything was human, human intelligence.
And so, nothing was digital, then it was all about how big your human armies were.
And so, A bunch of my family.
People go, Oh God, he admits his family's in this.
No, they all told me it was bad.
When I was a little kid, they did all this stuff and, and then told me the government was evil.
So I learned this from family that was involved, not in like pencil pushing or not involved.
That's why they're so scared because they know, but my whole family, my whole family was not like the pencil pusher types.
And so, My family told me all this and they got out of it because they were like fighting Russians in Latin America and East Germany and like all this stuff and they told me all this and so that's why I knew all this stuff and understood it was because my uncle you know and other people too just told me how this how the cow at the cabbage and so I knew very young without even they never pushed me to be on air they never said go do a show
I would just listen around the corner to them.
I would hear what they were doing.
And they were so worried about America.
And then, and so I was blessed to be around people that were like the knife's edge of the Pentagon.
And so people go, Oh God, you said you're part of them.
No, it's the difference.
It was like, these were real people that were doing insane stuff to fight the Russians and others.
And then they figured out, Oh my God, this is all evil.
So I was really blessed because I was early on around that.
And so that's, Just to go back full circle, like, oh, you work for them.
No, my family worked for them and rebelled against them and stood up against them.
And so that's why this is that's why they're so upset.
So that's the truth.
And nobody tells you what to do.
I just try to tell the truth.
Russell, I love you and I love your show.
I know it's your show, but I'm going to air this on my own show tomorrow.
Give me permission.
How do people find what you're doing?
Don't hijack my actual show during the middle of the show.
It's not even the end of it.
I'll ask you a question.
You can just stop talking.
I'll do another question.
I don't want to tell you.
You want to hear the real stuff?
Yeah.
You want to hear the real stuff?
It's insane.
It is beyond insane.
Go on.
This is like... Oh my god.
We're ready!
I mean... Let me hold on to this first.
I don't think I should say this stuff on air.
It may be this.
I would just say that like...
I am.
Bill Hicks.
Bill Hicks was a great comedian.
A lot better looking than me.
I'm not Bill Hicks.
Jesus Christ.
What's he like, 70 years old now?
Hit me with the real stuff.
Here's with the real stuff.
Uh...
Huh.
It's really bad, so...
Bye.
But let's just say my family is against the system.
By 1988, it turns against it, and we've been fighting them ever since.
So we're their own worst nightmare, because my family is 100% behind America, and they are fighting for the future of humanity.
And that's why they're so freaked out and pissed off, because of that.
Well, you're saying that this is historic, Alex.
This precedes even you being in the public eye, because when you were talking about that just then, I was thinking the stuff that you do didn't exist prior to you doing it.
There was David Icke, but this is pre-internet stuff.
Right at the advent of the internet, you create this channel and create this movement along with one or two notable others.
If it were like hip-hop, you're right there at the African Bamba moment.
Yeah, nobody told me what to do.
None of it was like outside gross.
I just like, you know, uh, I mean, I grew up hearing this stuff when I was a little kid about like, uh, yeah, we've got the, we've got the, whatever the term was, like, we're sending them in to talk to the aliens and we've got them in, you know, in drips and we're gonna, we're gonna, we're communicating with them.
We've got the, like, I literally was sat there and I was like, Six years old, my mom and her friend that ran the Psychedelic Institute in San Francisco for the CIA, and I'm in the back of the Volkswagen driving them to Arkansas, and my mother's sitting there in the front talking about, well, we're trying to communicate with the aliens and we're mapping the future.
We put the astronauts, they called them like astronauts, they had another term.
We put them under this name, they communicate with them on DMT.
So I'm like six years old, like sitting in the back of the car, listening to this.
And that was people my mom knew.
And then it was just like, it kind of goes from there.
But I mean, this is how real this stuff is, man.
Like they're literally taking, remember I was with Joe Rogan like six, seven years ago,
and I said, they have DMT drips, and they're doing all this.
And like a month later, two months later, Joe has a guest on, a professor going,
we have DMT drips.
DMT drips, the first time they said that.
So I heard my mom, this lady that ran the operation, in the car talking about it, I'm hearing about all this.
And so instead of like taking DMT and like an uncontrolled deal, they're giving him drips.
Into their intervening, so he'd been there for like a day to communicate with these entities.
So I was like growing up hearing this kind of stuff, but it's part of the course.
The point is, most people go on to be, I'm a firefighter, I'm a police officer, I'm a lawyer, but in the real world, I'm a black cop operator, I'm a disinformation operationist, I'm interfacing with the interdimensional elves.
I mean, in the real world, the government is like 100% talk to aliens.
Like, they got SETI, beam in the sky, and they got ground level stuff, and all they're doing is like, what do the aliens want?
And the aliens always say, kill 20 kids in front of us, we'll give you the secret to superconductors.
So you bring 20 kids in, slit their throats, kill them, the aliens go, here's the code to fission fusion.
And the aliens go, by the way, have a big war, kill 10 million, we'll give you the future of free energy.
I mean, that's really what it is.
Like, I've sat there and heard people involved with the government, Literally talking about interfacing with the elves.
So that's what I'm telling you.
The aliens are real, folks.
It's all real.
The elves are like little robots.
They're like the custodian first level thing you see.
And that's what all the ancient cultures thought about the elves.
They're literally like little green aliens, little green hats, little uniforms, whole nine yards.
I've heard other people talk about declassified documentation that they've been given access to that shows that from like Roswell onward there have been relationships between earth governments and intergalactic NAEs.
I know again that you and Ike were some of the first people that popularized these ideas, but I've heard these ideas, you know, before I exist in a cultural space, you know, as a drug addict when I was 16, I was listening to this kind of stuff.
I was listening to you saying some of this kind of stuff.
stuff. There's we've had in the last couple of years in the sort of post pandemic era, limited
revelations about government access to extraterrestrial technology. We've had military
personnel talking about UFOs. When you talk about beings though.
That's when it comes different.
Like, technology's one thing.
I think we can handle that.
But when we talk about beings, it becomes a little more... What do I want to say?
Innovating.
It's a little more effervescent.
It's a little more potent when you hear that.
Because I wonder how you equate that with, like, demonic forces.
Absolutely.
faith as a Christian and what that means about the trajectory of power because
even insignificant things like you getting shut down and a censorship
industrial complex that wants to control the information space pales into
insignificance if what we're saying is is that the encounters that a person
ordinarily describes on high psychedelics of meeting with entities is
an objective reality is a reality that's inaccessible.
Absolutely, the globalists are on super psychedelics getting divine information they believe
from aliens.
And they do that because our limited sight is limited.
We saw everything, we couldn't even live our lives.
So you take this stuff, the veil's broken, and the way God works is, and God's angels will not communicate with you because it violates the code of free will.
But the demons will.
So You can dial into this stuff, but only go downward.
And so I think that's the best way to describe it is that Earth is being demonically influenced to blow ourselves up and destroy ourselves because we've got some larger destiny we're about to do.
And that's what I'm trying to say to people is this is real.
This is a spiritual battle.
Everything's a spiritual battle.
Why are you saying a thing about the 20 kids being killed, Alex?
You know, when we're talking about human trafficking and child trafficking and these various sort of odd sexualized occultist movements in places of high power, how significant is the Epstein stuff for that?
And why would extraterrestrials want 20 kids killed?
Is this, was it called a dendrochrome?
What is this stuff, mate?
Why is that part of this?
Yeah, a dendrochrome is kind of a...
Lexicon, understand it, but here's the deal.
If you will hurt your future, if you will kill your children...
Then they know that you'll do whatever they say.
And when you kill children, your own children particularly, or a dog you love like the Nazis made SS officers do, you lower the spiritual defense shield of life.
So they need you to do human sacrifice, particularly children, because then they can send a transmission.
So God puts up a defense shield of people that are pro-God, pro-family, pro-life, pro-human.
But if you will go against children, you lower the defense shield so they can send the transmission in.
So it's all very scientific.
We think of it, oh, the Satanists just want to kill kids.
They don't care about the kids.
If they can get us to kill our children and get us to hurt ourselves, then interdimensionally, we've gone against our own code, the defense shield unloads and collapses, and now the transmission can be sent.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, it does.
What you're saying is that we all have a general and personal feeling of what love is, but that has a frequency, that has a qualitative and almost a quantitative component.
If you had instruments delicate enough to observe it on an essential level, you'd be able to see that love is an entity, that love is a field, that love is a shield.
And by getting you to transgress against that, they create...
Opportunities for a relationship that wouldn't be present otherwise.
That makes me think about, you know, the Abraham's willingness to sacrifice Isaac.
It makes me think about that Christ is sacrificed as part of a new covenant between God and his people.
What do you think about that?
The significance of what you're saying there, you know, in this milieu about power and the frequency of love and those two biblical sacrifices right there.
That's right, Russell.
So, at the beginning of the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, God says, sacrifice your child and when God's disciple is ready to do it.
God says, here's the ram.
I've given you a replacement.
And so God says, this ends now.
Stop doing... Judaism has all these criticisms, and it's got its own problems.
It's so powerful.
You think powerful is going to have the enemies swarming around it, but God said, stop killing your children.
And it was the Jews in the Middle East where everybody's killing their kids to idols because it's so powerful.
God, it's powerful.
Take your baby you love, you have with your woman, and throw it on a big metal plate and boil your child and it pops and explodes and everything.
God is saying, don't do that.
So God says with Abraham, and the angel grabs his hand, God wanted to see you do it.
And literally the beginning of Abrahamic religion, all the three major faiths was, Will you kill your kid?
And God says, you did it, but I stopped you.
Now never do it again.
And then you go through the Old Testament, New Testament.
Now we don't need sacrifice anymore.
It's all about stop doing that.
And so that's what's so powerful about this understanding is that these entities want us to kill our kids.
And God and the Abrahamic religion at the beginning of it says, my religion is about stopping killing children.
Why then the sacrifice of Christ?
And how do you look at a lot of scriptural information when you also have the information and understanding that you have about this occultist stuff?
How do you interpret demonic forces from the Bible within this purview of satanic or occultist or interdimensional power?
Do you see that as stuff that's covered in the Bible?
Do you see these things No, I do, I do, I do.
I mean, I do.
Because God said, stop human sacrifice of children.
And then thousands of years later, God says, I will project myself like Avatar down to a body to show you how to do this and show you the sacrifice is the right thing to do.
And I will go through all this pain and I will take on all of your sins.
If you will do this with me, Because the universe works like this.
There's good and evil.
There's cause and effect.
There's cause and action.
So God is literally like, I've given you a cheat sheet.
You know, here's the thing.
God gives us free will, Russell.
But God cheats.
He gives us a cheat sheet on what to do.
And so that's exactly where God is, is trying to say, listen, I know how the universe works, I created it, and if you just recognize this, and just recognize that I came down to a person to be killed and tortured, I will put it all on my back, we can move ahead of this, no more sacrificing your kids, no more sacrificing anybody, You need to move on, because that was a demonic projection of sacrifice to be able to move the next level.
So, I mean, that's where we are.
That's why this is so heavy.
That's why they hate Christianity.
Because under the old system, you've got to sacrifice.
And God's saying, the sacrifice is over.
Just join me.
It's over.
These demonic forces, this war between good and evil, this dark power in high places described in the New Testament, is that what we're experiencing?
When you say stuff like, you know, Klaus Schwab, you know, I know he's retired now, all these figures that appear in bureaucracies, do you believe them to literally be engaged with demonic stuff?
Do you feel like a figure like Epstein did have access to information that if it was
exposed would topple up the gig?
Or do you feel that real power, we don't even know their names, we don't even really see
them, it's beyond some of those families and some of those entities and royal bloodlines
and all that stuff?
There are a lot of old families, a lot of old power.
But at the end of the day, it's Bill Gates, it's Klaus Schwab, it's Fauci.
I mean, they're the front men that are doing all of this, and yeah, it's a spiritual choice.
It's absolutely a spiritual choice, and it's self-evident what's going on.
And so, beyond who runs it, beyond who controls it, humans are about to do incredible things, incredible things we can't even imagine. And so we have to ask
ourselves, why is it we're being attacked?
Who is it that doesn't want us to be who we are? And so that's basically where I'm at. But it is a
fight between good and evil. And if people simply choose God, then God will send them
the inclination, the discernment, the answer to counter what's happening to them.
But if you don't have God, you have nothing, because we're on a beautiful planet, a beautiful solar system, a beautiful universe.
Look all around, it's all fantastical.
Two men and a woman, or a man and a woman, you know, have a baby, and there's rainbows, and there's, you know, there's the sun rising in the morning.
That is so beautiful that A man and a woman can have a baby, that a man and a woman can do all this.
We need to recognize the holiness of every day waking up and being conscious and being aware and realize that we were given free will.
So if we have free will, that means we can dial into Satan's channel or God's channel.
Because that's what free will is, and that's the experience this is.
So people ask, why is God doing this to us?
We have decided to tune into evil, and that's why it's happening.
We've got to change the channel and use our free will.
God gave us this ultimate gift, and God is in pain that we're making the wrong decision.
So we have to make the right decision to tune into God's channel and everything's perfect.
You feel like you're going to be able to do that, Alex, as you go through all these challenges, as you feel like these deep state forces are literally organizing around you.
To have them kind of experiences you describe as a six-year-old boy healing people to get about interdimensionality and extraterrestriality, and suddenly your life coalesces into this point where they actually are coming for you, where they're actually coming for him for wars.
You feel comfortable falling backwards into the arms of the Lord?
What kind of fear are you experiencing, man?
You know, Russell, I feel the opposite.
I feel sorry for the crew being under attack, but I feel more awake and more alive than ever, and I know that God's 100% real, so I am more fulfilled and more completed than I've ever been.
I'm actually very, very blessed, and I trust in God, and I really feel sorry for our enemies that serve Satan, because they're not going to experience This bounty that God wants us to have.
So I love support.
I need support.
But at the end of the day, Russell, I mean, this is all part of God's plan, and I've been shown God's plan.
So I'm just blessed, actually.
I feel like I won the lottery here.
I mean, I don't feel like I'm being defeated.
I feel the opposite.
Do we pray for our enemies as our Lord and Savior suggests?
Alex, do we pray for them?
I think we must pray for them because we don't want the energy of God's destruction of them.
We hope they reprove themselves.
We hope they turn around.
We hope that they join us because we love them.
But yeah, we don't want to hate them because that energetically ties us to them.
We want to say, God, we love these people.
We hope they wake up.
It all makes sense once you're at this level because, again, hatred is an energetic connection.
We want to give them love.
And hope they turn around, because if they don't, they are cut off from God and all of us forever.
So absolutely, I pray for my enemies.
I love them.
I care about them.
Even though I hate what they do, I love them because I don't want to see them cut off from God forever.
Lord Jesus Christ, at the foot of your cross, by your blood and by your wounds, we pray for our enemies, Lord.
We pray for their forgiveness and we pray for redemption.
We pray that we may belong to you individually and collectively and that we may become a vessel for your light, Holy Father.
We know that we survive and thrive only by your grace and by your power, not by anything that we have done, but by what you do for us.
In your holy name, Lord Jesus Christ, we pray.
Amen.
Well, Alex, I pray that the next few days for you pass well and easily.
I pray that we can continue to align and find ways to be of service and that the light prevails.
Russell, thank you.
I felt the Holy Spirit during that to the point I almost fell over.
God bless you and I appreciate you, Russell, and I hope I can see you again in person.
I love you.
Yeah, I love you, man.
I'll come to Dallas.
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