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Nov. 14, 2023 - Stay Free - Russel Brand

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Russell Brand & Dave Rubin On Middle East War, Big Pharma & Clinton! - Stay Free #245

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	In this video, you're going to see the future.
	Hello there, you awakening wonders, you firewalkers, you peaceniks, you warlords, you people that plainly refuse to follow the prescribed narrative.
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	You are determined, like me, to find a way to navigate this minefield of modern ideological life.
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	Hello all of you in the Rumble chat.
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	What's wrong with people?
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	We love him says Synchronicity in the Awaken Wonder chat.
	Listen, I might be being tyrannised by a German Shepherd like it's the mad days of when fascism came in red, white and black and you knew what it was because they were wearing boots but As you know, tyranny looks different these days.
	It's been banalised.
	It's been bureaucratised.
	You don't know how tyranny will come for you these days.
	But what we do know is that the EU have passed legislation legitimising digital IDs and CBDCs.
	That means the EU is moving towards We've got Dave Rubin on the show later.
	We're going to be talking about the Middle Eastern War.
	We'll be talking about Big Pharma.
	We'll be talking about Clinton.
	We'll talk about all of the Clintons.
	Hello, Stephen McGraw in the Rumble chat.
	You happy about Dave coming on?
	What do you want to see me talk about?
	Do you want to see me ask Dave, if you want to see me talk about the Middle East, say yes.
	If you want us to talk about, I don't know, centralised currencies, say no!
	Say no!
	Let's have a look in the Rumble chat.
	Also, in this chat, we're going to be talking about, is Tucker Carlson kind of a new world leader now?
	I don't mean that in a new world order way.
	I'm saying his power migrated and become unusual.
	Are essentially figures like Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, and yeah, Tucker Carlson, functioning
	as sort of sovereigns.
	I'm saying that because Tucker Carlson, right, you know, a couple of days ago he was at the
	UFC with Dana White and Trump, wasn't he?
	Did you guys see Bill Burr's wife there doing that?
	I love Bill Burr.
	He's one of my favourite comedians and I love the way that Bill Burr talks about his family life.
	I think it's very, very beautiful.
	I know a lot of you are outraged by that because a lot of you love Trump, right?
	But now, Tucker Carlson, he's like a world leader.
	He's just travelling the world talking about what is Tucker Carlson now?
	We've got him coming here, by the way, just before Christmas and yeah, and perhaps, Russell, you look like you need more sleep.
	See I've got three kids!
	55 fight for right.
	I've got three kids and I'm trying to participate in a movement that's bringing down the establishment.
	That's why I'm interested in the emergence of a figure like Tucker Carlson as a kind of new... What is he?
	Because he's in Spain now talking about a weird move that's happening politically in Spain where odd alliances are being formed as a result of an inability to form a majority in Spanish parliament where They're giving that Catalan independence party, and I love Barcelona and I love the Catalonian people, but there's some weird stuff going on in Spain.
	Anyway, Tucker has got a real role now.
	What's the next generation of power going to look like?
	Is it going to be figures like Elon Musk?
	Is it going to go beyond the economic?
	Or are we going to see the continued rise of independent media figures?
	Look at Vivek.
	Would Vivek be making the waves that he's been making if it were not for independent media?
	Look at Bobby Kennedy, and I know a lot of you, you know, a bit peeved about some of the stuff he said about war, right?
	And, you know, hopefully we'll get the opportunity to talk to him directly about that again soon.
	And would you have figures like Tucker Carlson if independent media was not providing a different type of conversation, a different type of dynamic?
	But let me tell you who the establishment want as one of your next presidents.
	It's this guy.
	If you're living in the state of California, let me know in the chat if you're watching this from California.
	Gavin Newsom, he's being groomed as a potential future president, right?
	Is that true?
	Is that true?
	Do you guys believe that?
	And he says, let me know in the chat if you say, Gavin Newsom, future president, yes or no?
	What do you think?
	And they're clearing up San Francisco in anticipation of President Xi of China's visit, right?
	You already saw what we posted the other day.
	Loads of people were posting it, that, you know, that before and after they cleansed homelessness from the streets.
	But remember, Like this guy's meant to be one of your sort of woke liberal politicians but look how he talks here about his decision to cleanse San Francisco of homelessness prior to this visit.
	It's extraordinary.
	You don't hear any of the compassion that you would associate with that kind of political
	mindset. In the same way, now that we know that Ukraine did blow up the Nord Stream pipeline,
	they blew that up like we said ages ago, and we do a brilliant bit of content on that later this
	week, then like that's an environmental disaster right? No one's talking about that aspect of it,
	the ecological impact of blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline that was plainly blown up by Ukraine
	with the assistance of American military, I would assume because of the expertise, because of the
	training they're providing.
	Anyway, we're going to get into more detail about that.
	What I'm fundamentally asking you is, do you think that these figures like Gavin Newsom and those kind of haircut politicians that the neoliberal left are always pushing for?
	You know, like the, our one is Rishi Sunak, there's Trudeau, all of that kind of stuff.
	Do they really care about the stuff they say they do?
	Yes or no?
	Does Gavin Newsom care about homelessness?
	Watch him talking about cleansing San Francisco's streets like Travis Bickle and ask yourself, does this dude care about homelessness or does he care about the artifice of care?
	He talks about tidying up San Francisco like you're waiting for your in-laws to come over.
	It's really, really weird.
	And also you can see in his eyes, he's thinking, I'm going to be president one day.
	Is he going to be your president one day, America?
	I know folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town.
	Um, that's true.
	Oh!
	Because it's true.
	It's true because it's true.
	Well, that's a circular argument.
	But it's also true, for months and months and months prior to APEC, we've been having different conversations.
	Anytime you put on an event, by definition, you know, you have people over your house, you're going to clean up the house.
	You have 21 world leaders, you've got tens of thousands of people coming from all around the globe.
	What an opportunity to showcase the world's most... Yeah, but you don't clean up, like, homeless people from your house.
	Oh my god!
	The in-laws and my boss is coming over!
	Quick!
	Sweep up those homeless people that were sleeping in the yard!
	Although I do sometimes want the children out of the way before people come over.
	Maybe it's like that.
	Maybe he sees homeless people as children that have got to be cleansed from the street.
	You would imagine, like, imagine a few years ago if you'd heard, like, oh there was a state visit from the American president to Beijing and China.
	Look at how And China cleansed the streets of all homelessness because to them it's more important to create the impression of cleanliness than cleanliness itself because they live in a propagandist state.
	That's what I'm saying.
	That's what I was saying at the beginning of the show.
	Banalized tyranny.
	Tyranny don't look like how we imagine it based on the models of the last century, no.
	It looks like slicked back haircut politician called Trudeau acting all friendly bringing a Nazi into Parliament.
	It's extraordinary.
	Yeah, there's the before and after.
	Look at that.
	So, you know, there it is.
	Where are those homeless folk now?
	How many of those homeless people have served in the American military?
	How many of them have mental health issues?
	How many of them have been betrayed by a nation that used them to facilitate, I would say, ultimately an economic globalist unipolar agenda, saying it was patriotism because that was convenient then.
	Then did away with them when it was convenient.
	And if Xi is like, you know, by the way, this is for, like, when else, when you hear about Xi, generally speaking, it's not like, Xi's coming to town.
	Let's get rid of the homeless.
	China's supposed to be a threat to global democracy now.
	Don't we hear that all the time?
	And we are suddenly decided we care a great deal about Taiwan because of semiconductors we care about.
	And China, by the way, those bastards.
	Well, Like, why are we tidying up then?
	Why are we even having him over if he's such a bad dictator?
	Look at how Trump is here criticized on MSNBC because he bears, according to this legacy media outlet, what do I want to say?
	He bears comparing to those kind of dictators, but like, no one's mentioning, by the way, Xi's on his own, on his way to San Francisco right now, and we're sweeping up homeless people like they're crisp packets and curlicans.
	His admiration, his deep admiration, his ongoing admiration for the world's authoritarian thugs, his admiration for Chairman Mao, his admiration for President Xi and Vladimir Putin, his intent to turn the government into a weapon of revenge and retribution.
	I mean, this is one of those moments where we have to distinguish between the white noise and the blinking red flares that are going up every time this man speaks.
	Their propaganda, as I said to you, the neoliberal propaganda, it's always sort of pseudo-intellectual metropolitan, you know?
	You see that?
	Is that, have we got more, have we got the Rachel, is this where Rachel Maddow says it?
	Now look at this little version of a propagandist rant.
	And again, it's not that long ago.
	We've got it.
	We're talking about it later in the week.
	A lot longer ago that we were given such definitive information around certain medications and courses of action.
	It's never been retracted.
	It's never been apologized for.
	It's never been addressed.
	Even if, in that anti-Trump rant then, they'd said, but also obviously, you know, the Biden family got some pretty dodgy business dealings and you have to acknowledge that promises were made When campaigning that have just simply not been delivered on, for example, making Saudi Arabia a pariah.
	So it's increasingly difficult to condemn Trump for being a centralizing authoritarian, which is what we're doing because of the authoritarian moves of our friend here, currently in office.
	You know, I'm paraphrasing what I would imagine they would say, but here's your friend and mine, Rachel Maddow, talking about Trump being, I think, maybe like Hitler.
	Tonight, here's the headline in the New York Times.
	Quote, accused of echoing fascists, Trump campaign warns its critics will be, quote, crushed.
	The subhead says, quote, the former president likened political opponents to vermin, similar to the dehumanizing rhetoric wielded by dictators like Hitler and Mussolini.
	The Washington Post headline just got there more directly.
	Headline, Trump calls political enemies vermin, echoing dictators Hitler and Mussolini.
	The quote from Trump was this, he said, quote, we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, lie, steal, and cheat on elections and will do anything possible, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and the American dream.
	The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within.
	And this is not subtle, right?
	Have you ever seen when Hillary Clinton says that there are MAGA fascists and baskets of deplorables or when Joe Biden says we have to beware of MAGA extremism and it's the biggest threat to our democracy?
	And haven't we just seen Rachel Maddow saying that like what Trump's gonna do if he gets into office is behave like a dictator?
	It's really Extraordinary set of double standards.
	Where do you get a proper discourse, proper analysis, where the guiding principles and coordinates are actual principles, not the agenda?
	It's okay for us to cleanse San Francisco of homelessness in order to prepare for a visit from President Xi, who elsewhere we condemn Trump for admiring or being liked.
	You see, there is not a consistent narrative because consistent narratives require principles.
	There is a total lack of principle.
	I mean, everybody knows what this means.
	If you know one thing about mass-murdering dictators in history, it's that they refer to the people they want to mass-murder as vermin, pests, rats, and deplorables.
	You know, like, in a way, using language that reduces the validity, humanity, or personhood of any other group seems to be something that this party is completely, or this sort of neoliberal set of interests, is completely willing to do.
	In a minute we're going to be talking about Tucker Carlson.
	Is he like a king now?
	Do you think so?
	Like that Tucker Carlson is transcendent of ordinary politics?
	Is he a kingmaker?
	Are we in a new age of sovereigns where there are figures like Joe Rogan or Tucker or Elon Musk?
	They have a power that's transcendent of politics.
	Let me know.
	And is this emerged because legacy media spaces simply amplify the voices that they support within the institutions of government, which most of us now recognize as being corrupt?
	Remember when we had Greenwald on the show and he said, most people just hate the establishment.
	Most people hate the legacy media.
	Like when we ask sort of questions on here, like, do you think we should support foreign wars
	or would you rather that your taxpayer dollars were spent on creating better infrastructure
	within American cities?
	It's just landslides.
	And you think, well why are these things never asked publicly?
	Why are these things never subject to referenda?
	And the answer is because they know what would happen and that ain't the agenda.
	Here's Hillary Clinton, like right after we've looked at Rachel Maddow sort of saying that like, you know, Trump saying his political opponents are like rats.
	Check out this thing.
	How did people get basically drawn in by Hitler?
	How did that happen?
	And I'd watch newsreels and I'd see this guy standing up there ranting and raving and people shouting and raising their arms.
	I thought, what's happened to these people?
	Why did they believe that?
	You saw the rally in Ohio the other night.
	Trump is there ranting and raving for more than an hour and you have these rows of young men with their arms raised.
	Hmm.
	Suspicious.
	Something's going on.
	And what about when she said that people like Trump need to be debugged and reprogrammed?
	Do you remember that?
	At some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members.
	Interesting and peculiar.
	What we have to have is some values and principles that will put us in good stead and help us to transcend this current corrupt and hypocritical space.
	Now, One person who's taken a very peculiar stance on escalating tensions in the Middle East, and this is a divisive issue that's come along at a very interesting time.
	It's a tragedy.
	It's awful.
	My position on violence and war is, I don't know, pretty clear, I think.
	Please find diplomatic solutions wherever possible.
	Please end violence wherever possible.
	Please don't fund and support ongoing violence.
	John Bolton, though, He's perspective on escalating tensions with Iran, which Biden is clearly participating in, is causing John Bolton, that dear Colonel Sanders, that guess who card come to life, John Bolton, to be agitated because he's not got a high enough bounty on his head.
	What a delightful guy.
	Iran reportedly offered a hitman a million dollars to kill former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and John Bolton.
	They bargained the price for me would be $300,000, which I have to say I found insulting.
	I think I'm worth a lot more than that.
	You're gonna kill me for... He's just a, like, a tack-on.
	Okay, for a million quid, we'll do Mark Pompeo.
	And we'll get you John Bolton.
	We'll frame him for nothing.
	We won't even use an additional bullet.
	John, could you just stand behind Mike?
	Why?
	I'm sick of standing behind him!
	I'm better than him!
	I've advocated for every goddamn war there is!
	Absurd beast.
	What's up with the baphomet hand gesture behind Russell?
	Oh, God, everybody.
	You worry too much.
	You got too...
	Get a hobby!
	So that's what's up with it.
	What do you want it to do?
	That?
	Is that better?
	Does that mean something now, you soppy sausage?
	Hey, love you Russes, these DM30.
	It's nice to see you guys.
	I love you lot.
	I absolutely love you.
	Now, have we become so sick of political advocates and pundits like John Bolton there and figures like Rachel Maddow and Hillary Clinton and all these kind of sort of centralist establishment figures that there are now emerging new voices kind of wandering kings like Tucker Carlson who can be a UFC
	Just one minute as a potential VP to Trump, next minute turning up to address the complexities of Spanish democracy, which appears to be a pretty fractured process currently, is extraordinary.
	What is Tucker's role in the world?
	It's very interesting.
	Independent media is becoming independent politics.
	Have a look at Tucker over in Spain.
	You've been with Donald Trump the last days, now you're here in Spain meeting Spanish leaders.
	How is the world seeing these weird events that is happening in Spain, this violation to our democracy?
	Well the world isn't seeing it enough and that's why we wanted to come, because it's not getting the coverage it deserves.
	I mean, anybody who would violate your constitution, potentially use physical violence, To end democracy is a tyrant, is a dictator.
	And this is happening in the middle of Europe.
	So we thought it deserved more coverage than it's getting.
	But is the world actually seeing how important is what is happening here?
	No.
	No, the world is not seeing how important it is.
	But we hope to change that.
	Wow.
	And do you think Tucker Carlson can change the trajectory of Spanish democracy?
	Say yes if you believe that he can change the global perspective and no if you don't think that's possible.
	Tucker Carlson now, who as I say, he's coming on our show in the warm-up for Christmas.
	The warm-up.
	Yeah, get ready for Christmas.
	He has a role that's pretty rare.
	I think this is what happens when there's a total lack of integrity and authenticity in media spaces.
	When you get the idea that people like Jen Psaki moved from being White House spokespeople to MSNBC figures, you start to doubt these voices.
	When you see mainstream and legacy media pundits advocating for measures that you know aren't going to be good for you simply because it's amplifying and normalising the agenda of the powerful, people like Tucker Carlson who are willing to make complex points about war will rise up.
	Because I'll tell you what I need, and tell me if you agree with this, yeah all of you say it's changed your opinion on Spain, it could introduce more information.
	I feel like We need authority.
	Not authority, that's not what I meant.
	Authenticity and integrity more than ever before.
	That's what online independent media grants us more.
	That's the best aspect, I would say, of social media.
	The ability to communicate, The ability for a wide variety of voices and views to be heard, but that is getting continually shut down.
	We live in an age where there is a sort of predetermined, preordained, preselected political class.
	People that have been through the WF, like Rishi Sunak, our current Prime Minister.
	Like Justin Trudeau, Canada's Prime Minister.
	You see these figures cropping up at globalist events continually, and people scoff.
	I don't like the idea that there is some kind of conspiracy, but it is extraordinary.
	What I mean by conspiracy is there are a convergence of interests around global corporate power and interests of dominion that cannot be accessed by democracy.
	That's what I mean, and that there are a bunch of agencies, NGOs, groups like the Clinton Foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, groups like the WHO that are able to exert power over your country and mine that's far beyond anything you could do.
	What you meant to do Get a little ticket like Charlie Bucket and vote for an Oompa Loompa.
	Good luck!
	You've got no chance of impacting the trajectory of your nation.
	But David Cameron, he was our Prime Minister for a little while, and now he's back.
	He's back.
	And in an interview he says something that's really extraordinary.
	Listen to this carefully.
	He talks about another former British Prime Minister and kind of globalist pal, Tony Blair.
	You won't believe what they just say in public.
	And just to show you the Depth and breadth of my ability, I'll use the old wooden finger to do this.
	No, oh no, it's actually quite hard.
	I'm going to have to use an actual digit made by the Almighty.
	I mean, I remember when David Cameron stood about there, do you remember, in 2016?
	Yeah, we're about a metre away from it now.
	And said, well, I'm quitting as Prime Minister.
	I remember on the day, he said, oh, I'm going to carry on as MP for Whitney.
	And then a few weeks later, he quit as MP for Whitney.
	I'm told because the Camerons had dinner with the Blairs, and Tony Blair said, don't stay in Parliament.
	You have to declare all your earnings.
	Wow, that's blatant.
	Firstly, Tony Blair was Prime Minister for one party.
	Cameron was Prime Minister for the opposing party.
	They're having dinner together and they're saying, don't stay in Parliament.
	That's our equivalent of Congress.
	You'll have to declare your earnings.
	Tell me yes or no.
	Does that chime with your perspective of the political class that they only serve in office so that they'll get corporate opportunity afterwards?
	So there's a revolving door between Congress or Parliament or whatever and the corporate world.
	That whether it's Obama or George W. Bush, they're funded ultimately by the military-industrial complex and Wall Street and the financial sector.
	Say yes if you agree with that.
	Say no if you think I've been at the drowsy drugs again.
	If you want to become an Awake and Wonder, all you gotta do is press the red button, join us in our locals community, get early access to interviews like the one we had with Alex Jones, where I talked to him like a modern-day shaman.
	Like a sort of like Alex Jones lives on the Edgelands.
	That's what I would say about Alex Jones.
	He's got access to interesting information and sometimes he says some crazy things, but think about the number of times Alex Jones has been right.
	You'll see that conversation on Thursday or Friday.
	Unless you become an Awake and Wonder right now, press the red button, you can get access to all of our content earlier.
	We've got Dave Rubin coming on the show a little better.
	And remember, look at now how this Conflagration in the Middle East and its subsequent escalation of concurrent and concomitant or adjacent conflicts is dividing even the consensus that was starting to form in the independent anarcho-libertarian online spaces.
	Even this is fracturing now.
	Extraordinary, fascinating and interesting.
	And I believe we need unity Decentralised, unified fronts, where people with different cultural and political views are willing to form new alliances in order to confront centralised, globalist interests.
	What do I mean by that?
	Well, I mean, for example, that the EU has found a way to introduce digital IDs.
	They found a way to do it, and they're soon going to be introducing CBDC, centralized currencies that will be able to be shut down at a moment's notice.
	Now, if you're watching us on YouTube, we're going to leave now, so there's a link in the description.
	Just go down to that little link, sneak over to Rumble, where I can speak more freely.
	Join us there, where we can ask interesting, intelligent questions.
	If you've got a question for Dave Rubin, post it I'm very interested in this move towards centralization and authoritarianism.
	We've investigated it in some depth here.
	Stay with us if you want to ask a question of dear Dave Rubin, our friend, and enjoy this.
	European Parliament has reached a provisional agreement on the establishment of a European digital ID.
	Remember how much they were talking about that in the pandemic?
	They're pushing it now.
	Hundreds of privacy and cyber security experts across the world have strongly warned about the pitfalls of this legislation.
	Why?
	Because it's gonna mean invasion into our privacy.
	Did Edward Snowden die in vain?
	He didn't die, he's in Russia.
	Yeah, but you know, it can't be much fun.
	It snows the whole time!
	And guess what?
	You know, we've just been talking about Alex Jones.
	Is there even plans afoot to put little grain of rice style microchips under our skin?
	One former WEF insider turned whistleblower says But that's exactly where things are heading.
	Stay with us for Dave Rubin.
	Meanwhile, here's the news.
	9. Here's the effing news.
	Here's the news.
	No, here's the fucking news.
	The European Parliament have a provisional agreement to introduce a continent wide digital ID
	which will definitely invade your privacy and your cyber security.
	But at least there's no secret plan to insert microchips under our skin, like conspiracy theorists warned years ago.
	Oh no!
	We talk a lot about advanced ideas that seem sometimes to be implausible and ridiculous, but after the pandemic period many of us have become more open to the notion that there might be plans to introduce regulatory measures that seem like they're more from science fiction than political fact.
	But the European Parliament have just established in principle the introduction of a Europe-wide digital ID.
	This will be connected to CBDCs.
	That means digital currencies.
	Remember when digital currencies were bad?
	When they were Bitcoin?
	When they were offline and difficult to control and a bit off-grid?
	They're bad!
	They're bad for the environment!
	Someone's gonna hurt theirself!
	You could have someone's eye out with that digital currency!
	Well now...
	that they're organizing themselves from the United States to across Europe, suddenly they're okay.
	But more worrying than any of that is the introduction of measures to be able to observe us,
	control us, shut us down, and even something like universal credit, which I've heard people
	talk positively about, could be used as a measure to impose more control. But to get us into this
	subject, let's have a look at Dutch MEP Rob Roos, who you may remember from when he confronted a
	Pfizer employee about whether or not there'd been clinical trials around transmission,
	and the results were interesting, but on YouTube I'll have to hold back what I reveal.
	Here is Rob Roos.
	He's just come out of a meeting.
	He's all sort of like, It's too late, guys.
	It's the end of the world now.
	It's the Matrix, man.
	I should have not left Morpheus in that chamber next to the lavatory.
	I just left the room where we had the negotiations about the digital identity.
	And I have bad news.
	The Member States and the European Parliament came to an agreement.
	That means that probably not far from now the digital identity will be a fact in the European Union.
	Right after this agreement, Commissioner Breton said, now we have the digital identity wallet, we have to put something in it.
	And what he meant was the digital euro, also known as the central bank digital currency.
	And this is a very bad development.
	One of the defining myths of our culture is progressivism.
	Things are improving.
	We used to be cavemen!
	But look at us now!
	We've got all of these devices!
	Post-enlightenment, things have been improving more broadly.
	Many of you might be thinking, sensing, feeling deep inside yourself that in conjunction with evident and obvious progress in technology and medicine, there's been a kind of a decline, a deterioration, something that's difficult to define and perhaps exists in the realm of the spirit.
	You'll notice how these ideas were first of all spoken of as, you know, as with any potential scientific or technological project, I suppose, as pie-in-the-sky potentialities.
	And now they're being introduced in quite a gentle way.
	And in the pandemic we discussed, didn't we, the possibility of, like, vaccine passports.
	That was discussed.
	And I think because of independent media, many of these ideas received a lot of pushback and resistance.
	What I would ask you to be observant of is the possibility that once these ideas are discussed, presented to you, and somewhat normalized by the media, you'll see a bunch of stuff normalizing it in the coming weeks and months, I imagine.
	I predict, I can predict this now.
	Let me know in the chat when you see it.
	What will happen is, a situation will occur, and I'm not, this is not a conspiracy theory, I'm not saying that it'll be a false flag event, you know, whatever.
	I'm just saying, because of the way things are, there will be a war.
	there will be a pandemic there will be an event and during that event they're going to say obviously now we're going to have to use that digital id thing we've been discussing and we're going to have to advance that because it's not safe now remember how close we came in the pandemic to you know oh in order to go to concerts you're going to have to have had this medication Now you know that it didn't prevent transmission.
	Now you know, like, there's so many things, you know, I'm not going to rehash all of that stuff now.
	What I'm saying is, is that any measure that ultimately affords centralised authority a greater ability to control you, to control your movements, to control your transactions, to control your finances, is ultimately not going to be in your service.
	That's why I think we live in such a polemicised and conflagratory time, a time of conflict, because most people in the back of their minds think, well, as long as these these measures are only applied to the people I don't like,
	I'm kind of glad. Yeah, I don't mind if you cancel or silence
	those, but I'm never like those people anyway. But once the
	principle is established, it's difficult to predict how it might,
	well it's not difficult to predict, I'm going to predict, it
	will be deployed in order to centralise authority and shut down any
	dissent towards the establishment.
	They always promise us not to make this connection. And even a
	lot of experts, privacy experts and security experts, want also
	last week, this is a very bad idea for our privacy and our The warnings of privacy and cyber security experts is something we'll cover in more detail in a minute but you might notice that yourself you have a kind of lethargy, a kind of inability to confront it, you feel a bit worn out with all of the
	Wars and diseases and this kind of atmosphere of our culture you might be like oh god just do it what can I do anyway?
	You'll happily just accept that your role in a democracy is to choose one of these two basically the same political parties that are funded in the same way.
	I suppose what I'm inviting you to look at is the possibility of confronting and resisting what seems inevitable but is plainly being pointed out as undesirable.
	And still this digital identity is pushed through But it's not too late, because we still have to vote on this in the plenary.
	So what you can do, send your MEP from your member state an email and tell him or tell her that you are against this tool.
	Some detail.
	The European Parliament and the majority of the member states reached a provisional agreement on the establishment of the European Digital ID or EID, the first central and fully digital identification system for all Europeans on Thursday.
	Conservative lawmakers and cyber security experts are sounding the alarms, citing concerns for potential large-scale abuse.
	We are taking a fundamental step so that citizens can have a unique and secure European digital identity, Nadia Calvino, the Spanish Minister for Economy and Digitalisation, representing the European Council's Spanish presidency, said.
	When there are ongoing migrant crises, when there are feelings of broad antipathy towards migrants, a digital ID becomes appealing.
	It will be one of the ways that a variety of people will be induced into accepting a continent-wide digital ID.
	Oh, well, otherwise people that shouldn't even be here will be able to have access to.
	They all knew it's going to be for safety.
	They'll use every single trigger there is because of paedophiles.
	Any imaginable, conceivable notion will be used to legitimize it and normalize it.
	This process is beginning now.
	Under the new law, the EU will offer citizens so-called digital wallets on a voluntary basis.
	At first, at first, what a key phrase.
	Why don't you have a digital wallet?
	Is it voluntary?
	Yes it is.
	Now, where is your digital wallet?
	Oh, I left it at home.
	Well then you're going to jail!
	Which will contain digital versions of their ID cards, driving licenses, diplomas, medical records and bank account information.
	These documents will be recognised as means to access online services throughout Europe and citizens will be able to prove their identity or share electronic documents from their wallets with a click of a button, the legislators hope.
	So safe, so convenient, so easy.
	We've already been introduced to ideas, you know, using phones to pay for stuff, train tickets, using phones to make purchases.
	And of course, convenience is, you know, a thing.
	It's a factor.
	But what are you giving up in exchange for that convenience?
	Where could it go?
	Remember, we've already had instances where people's bank accounts have been shut down, whether that's the Canadian truckers.
	We've already had instances where people's movements are monitored and controlled.
	Is that a capacity that you want to increase without due regulation and legislation?
	Notice it's taking place as well in a broad climate of censure and legislation to prohibit free speech.
	Notice that there's been a 180 on the efficacy and value of CBDCs that initially they were dismissed.
	Now it's like, oh no, they are a good idea actually, thinking about it, because we could switch people off financially.
	It's important to consider how these things might be used and whether or not they're going to be accompanied with legislation that meaningfully prevents them from being exploited.
	Just look at the 702 bill that's being perpetuated in the USA now, which was introduced for counter-terrorism measures, that's never really gone away and is used essentially to spy on American citizens.
	Critics, however, see the EID as a building block of a coming European digital surveillance state.
	A way for the EU and any government to hold all of their citizens' personal information and track their every move.
	That sort of thing already happens.
	Do you remember when we were all like, God, yeah, security cameras are everywhere now?
	Do you remember that?
	There didn't used to be CCTV, but it's for your security, it's for your safety, it's normalised.
	Now that's just the thing that we all live with.
	Here's the next wave.
	The agreement was reached just days after 504 privacy and cyber security experts from 39 countries signed a joint letter strongly warning about the pitfalls of the legislation as it fails to properly respect the right to privacy of citizens and secure online communications.
	The researchers and academics concluded that instead of protecting personal data, the current text substantially increases the potential for harm, both by rogue actors and government abuse.
	Curious that that potential would exist.
	Naturally, the Commission does not plan to stop at EIDs.
	Another major plan that's currently in the works is the Digital Euro, Europe's future central bank issued digital currency, CBDC, currently in early development phase by the European Central Bank.
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	Critics who warn about total government control of citizens' personal finances through programmable money have long been saying that EIDs will be the first step toward an economy run on CBDCs.
	Internal market commissioner Thierry Breton has now even confirmed this as one of the main goals of the new legislation.
	Thierry Breton may have come to your attention with these weird bureaucratic gangster threats towards people like Elon Musk.
	I'm giving Elon Musk 24 hours to obey.
	He'll do as I say or he'll face Thierry Breton's consequences.
	They will respect the law.
	Looks like an old lady.
	Talks like Don Corleone.
	This is a post of Thierry Breton's.
	We did it!
	Hashtag deal handshakes.
	With the European Digital Identity Wallet, all European citizens will be able to have a secured e-identity for their lifetime.
	Yeah!
	Cool!
	Freedom!
	The wallet has the highest level of security and privacy.
	Cool, because yeah, security and privacy, that is where it'd be exploited.
	I'm glad, Thierry, that you have pointed out that there's no room for that.
	And of course, we can definitely trust people in positions of power like you.
	Giant step and a world premiere round of applause to my teams and both co-legislators.
	And if that tweet or ex-post hasn't made you excited enough about Thierry Breton's brilliant plan to observe your every
	move and to be able to shut you down financially like that, here's a piece of promo content that's gonna make you want
	to bow down and worship at the centralised ortho- You've got no choice, they can do what they want with you.
	Convenience and security, also friendly.
	It's like elevator music.
	It's like we're just being carried by a machine to an inevitable destination where we will have more convenience and more security.
	Is there any potential downside?
	Is there any potential downside?
	Not that I'm looking at or willing to declare publicly.
	Tick, nice control of personal data.
	You see how it's like starts, will be available to every EU citizen.
	Will be mandatory for every EU citizen.
	Yeah, secure throughout Europe!
	Once that's operating in conjunction with the WHO's treaty in the event of another pandemic, and pandemics can include all sorts of things that go beyond what you might think is a pandemic, including stuff like climate change, I'm just citing from the documentation, that means they'll be able to censor online content, they'll be able to track you wherever you're going, can you sort of see where this is heading?
	And see how people that sounded like mad prophetic conspiracy theorists, giddy shaming of a technological age just a few years ago, essentially were telling us plain truths in strange accents.
	They can decide what data they want to store and share for now.
	Don't matter if you're a builder, a fisherman or that lady doing her work.
	It's for everybody.
	Proof of your skills and qualifications.
	Are you going to prove your skills?
	Yeah, I can prove my skills on my digital wallet.
	Are you going to prove your loyalty and obedience to the state?
	Sorry, too late.
	Prison!
	Like, they're talking as if there's not been, like, massive problems with data hacking, data filing, huge swathes of data around the world being stored just so they've got it for when they need it.
	It's all this just upbeat selling of total dystopia.
	I'm convinced now that's what it looks like.
	It doesn't look like military uniforms.
	It doesn't sound like jackboots marching down a street no more.
	What it's like is this.
	It's all friendly.
	Yeah, it's gonna be so convenient and safe.
	Why am I in this cell again?
	Convenient and safe?
	It's gonna make life so much easier, because I find life quite hard, do you?
	Yeah, why?
	Because of this sort of stuff, actually!
	Yeah, remembering past was a challenge!
	It's so exhausting not having people spy on my private information.
	It's coming.
	It shouldn't say stay tuned, it should say whether you like it or not.
	Because I don't remember voting for it, remember?
	Well, you're funding it, but did you vote for it?
	So, in conjunction with digital ID stroke digital wallets, we have this extraordinary announcement
	from the president of the Federal Reserve of Minneapolis, whose name sounds a lot like
	Let me have a look.
	Neil Kashkari.
	He says CBDCs don't actually solve any problems.
	Oh, what?
	Any?
	Well, I suppose you could shut down the finances of people you didn't agree with.
	That's one problem, Neil.
	Yeah, but I happen to not be a fascist.
	Central bank digital currency.
	Do you think that that is something that you all should be looking at seriously?
	To what degree should you be looking into it seriously?
	Just what are your thoughts on CBDC?
	I mean, as my colleagues at the Federal Reserve have talked about, we are examining it.
	I'll tell you, my personal bias is I'm pretty skeptical.
	I keep asking anybody, anybody at the Fed or outside of the Fed to explain to me what problem this is solving.
	I can send anybody in this room $5 with Venmo right now.
	Right?
	No, seriously.
	So what is it that a CBDC could do that Venmo can't do?
	I know!
	I know!
	We can un-person people that are dissidents, and if anyone dissents against their interests, we can shut down their bank account.
	Oh no, that is quite good.
	And all I get is a bunch of hand-waving.
	I get a bunch of, well, maybe it's better for financial inclusion.
	Maybe it's better for cross-border remittances.
	Maybe.
	Is there any evidence that it is?
	And, you know, they say, well, what about China?
	China is doing it.
	Well, I can see why China would do it.
	If they want to monitor every one of your transactions, you could do that with the central bank digital currency.
	You can't do that with Venmo.
	Oh, now we're getting somewhere.
	It's not like we would just copy China, though, because China, they're very authoritarian.
	You know, like, remember, during lockdown, without any evidence at all, they started showing people in their houses.
	They just abandoned democracy.
	Well, they didn't have to abandon democracy.
	They don't have democracy.
	That's why we in the West as democratic people and Republican people, Hey, Horton had the flu.
	5G's the problem.
	We crashed out of that video presentation just then, which we will post on Rumble in the next, you know, at the end of this show, we'll post it, because we have to be respectful of the time of my next guest, friend of the show, Co-Rumble creator.
	I don't mean that I created Rumble.
	He creates content on Rumble.
	I feel like he did participate in creating Rumble.
	He creates a lot.
	He's the host of the Rubin Report.
	He's a stand-up comedian.
	He shows on Monday to Friday at 11 a.m.
	ET and 8 a.m.
	PT.
	He created Locals using simply his mind.
	It's Dave Rubin.
	Thanks Dave.
	Thanks for coming on.
	Russell, I like how you somehow announced that you were the co-creator of Rumble right there.
	That's pretty good.
	I did not know that.
	Learn to code!
	That's what I'll say to people who can't get jobs.
	Learn to code.
	Because I did, and that's how I co-created Rumble.
	Using my mind.
	No, it was incredible.
	It was incredible.
	I created locals and then I was like, I'd like to talk to the Rumble people.
	Is Russell Brand available?
	And you're like, We created this thing.
	We want to work with you.
	It's all beautiful.
	Me, Chris Pavlovsky, we drew just a couple of kids really with a dream.
	Just a couple of crazy kids in Toronto.
	But we committed to it and look at where we are now.
	Now you can tell I'm not a co-creator.
	All you have to do is visit Rumble headquarters and see that tiny room that's dedicated to me.
	Whereas you have like I think like the Dave Rubin massage parlor.
	I've basically got a toilet.
	At Rumble, named after me.
	Happy endings for everybody in my conference room, but your room is just a small room for a foot massage, that's it.
	That's all we can get away with in that amount of space, Dave.
	Dave, when we transfer over on to locals, we'll talk about how this current escalating crisis in the Middle East has divided even the apparently unified space of, let's call it, the online libertarian right for One of a simpler phrase, but until we're on locals, got a whole bunch of other questions.
	Like Blessed Old Bird wants to know, how was ARC?
	You know, you'd participate in Jordan Peterson's ARC Festival?
	Conference?
	Conference.
	I wonder, we spoke to Jordan around that time, and I guess the stated mission was to find
	meaning again in politics, to revivify the conservative political movement, to talk about
	subsidiarity.
	It seems like there was a lot of good intentions there.
	How did that work out?
	It was really wonderful.
	And Russell, I wish you were there.
	I know you were busy with a couple of things, but it was so great to have.
	It was 1,500 invited guests for the first three days.
	So, you know, there were politicians and heads of state and then, you know, media guys like us and there were comedians It was just like a mix of just interesting people from all over, quite literally all over the globe, I think 73 countries and every walk of life and all sorts of different political stripes.
	But the basic idea was, what is a better story that all of us, whether you're in Great Britain, whether you're in the United States or you're in Spain, that the story of the West Has just disappeared.
	We don't know how to defend freedom anymore.
	We don't know how to tell people.
	Oh, the government's not supposed to just give you stuff.
	You're supposed to live your life as you see fit and then build a government up that direction.
	So what is the better story?
	And we did three days of talks and I had a studio outside just right outside the main room.
	So I interviewed about 20 people and it was sort of a greatest hits of the years of my show because so many people from Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Brett Weinstein and Jay Bhattacharya and just all the long list of people that I've interviewed is just great.
	And then I'm telling you, Russell, if you have not seen it yet, Jordan gave the best speech I have ever heard in my life.
	You know, I toured with this guy for about 120 shows in 2018.
	It was the best speech he has ever given to close that thing where he took, it was like, it was like Mr. Jordan's opus.
	He took every bit of Of everything that he has been working on as a clinical psychologist, as now I would say a great political thinker, as a religious scholar, I think it's fair to call him that.
	He put all the pieces together and talked about the concept of Jacob's Ladder, that basically, that you as a human being, it is your divine duty To build the best life for yourself, because if you do that, and you act good as a husband, and a father, and as a member of your community, you can literally build Jacob's Ladder up, up to the divine.
	And it was the most wonderful, I mean, I'm not kidding you, when I tell you 1,500 people, I don't think there was a dry eye in the room.
	It's up on the Ark Channel.
	It's absolutely incredible.
	So, yes, you were missed, man, because you would have absolutely loved it.
	It felt sane for a couple days, and we don't have a lot of that these days.
	Wow, that sounds interesting.
	And I feel like, Jordan Peterson, perhaps due to technology, perhaps due to the way that the culture is fragmenting and fracturing, and perhaps those phenomena, of course, inextricably linked anyway, i.e.
	technology has led to more fissuring in the culture, presumed spaces that you once would have called a red state or a blue state.
	You realize there's more complexity to that and Right up until this conflict it seemed to me that there was sort of a new emergent movement, new alliances, where people that you might have once thought of as traditional liberals or even left-wing were finding new alliances with people that were more broadly right-wing.
	And I want to talk about, or I want to ask you actually, figures like Jordan Peterson, In a sense, he wouldn't have risen to the position of prominence that he is in now without the way that media has altered.
	Take also, perhaps a more obvious example, Tucker Carlson, who earlier when we talked about his current visit to Spain and him showing up at a UFC event, he's kind of akin to a king without a kingdom or principality currently.
	He has an incredible amount of Power and influence.
	I wonder what you think of these figures like Peterson and Tucker Carlson with Elon Musk.
	I suppose it's slightly distinct because his power is alloyed to great wealth and to measurable and observable power.
	But what does it say about the political voices, you know, figures that would once have been considered leaders, that these new kind of sovereigns are emerging?
	Joe Rogan, another great example, Do you think this is because of the way technology has changed or do you think it's the way that our cultural life has changed, that there are new people in positions of power and prominence?
	Is it to do with integrity?
	Authenticity?
	What's it about and where will it lead when we seem to be experiencing so much political crisis and fracture?
	Well, first off, because I know you won't do it for yourself, I'll put you in that bin, too, because you're another one of those voices.
	I mean, it's clear.
	Look at the way the system has been treating you, and it's only because you've become one of those voices.
	They're all kind of different in their own way.
	You know, Jordan, I would say Jordan is a modern prophet, and I really believe that.
	You don't have to believe it in the strict biblical sense of a prophet, but you actually could.
	But Jordan is able to communicate really deep, Existential and eternally important ideas in a way that clearly millions of people across the world have been looking for and could not find a way that they could hear them in a way that would make sense.
	So this guy has been touring the world now, going all over the globe for a couple years, selling out massive theaters, telling people deep messages of truth that they have needed.
	So that's one version on the Jordan side.
	The Tucker side is that he has been telling people politically that the machine is not in it for you.
	And it's interesting with Tucker because he did it from inside the machine for a long time.
	Tucker, as he says often, he's been fired from a million places.
	I'm pretty sure he worked at MSNBC, he worked at CNN, he worked at Fox, he's had a couple other gigs along the way.
	And then he started saying a bunch of things, and it doesn't mean he's right about everything,
	but the core of what Tucker's idea is, is that there is a structure that exists,
	a political structure, and in America we've kind of got the Democrats
	and the Republicans.
	I think his position would be, the Republicans are maybe a tiny bit better,
	but usually they're gonna sell you out too, and you have to figure out a new way around that.
	So that's how he does it.
	Elon, at a technological perspective, it's like this guy is literally sending rockets to Mars.
	He is working on Neuralink.
	He is the renaissance man of our time.
	And yet for some crazy reason, he decided to get into the free speech fight too, because he realized, man, we're not going to get off this rock.
	Meaning this planet and get to Mars and all the other stuff that he really cares about, interplanetary travel and all that, unless we figure out some of the problems here, because we're going to end up blowing ourselves apart here.
	So then he buys Twitter for $44 billion, a company that hasn't made a dime in over a decade.
	I mean, it purges money, and he bought it for $44 billion.
	Rogan has done sort of what you and I both do.
	On steroids.
	His show is bigger than CNN, the network.
	It's bigger than Fox News, the network.
	And all the... it's not that it's that genius.
	The genius is that it's not genius.
	It's that he sits down and listens to people.
	And I think, you know, if you look at the last Say 10 or 15 years, what the internet did, it opened up all of these voices, right?
	It allowed guys like me and you to come in and I started my original show in my garage and people couldn't believe it.
	They were like, wait a minute, how does this guy run a TV show out of his garage?
	Tucker walked into my studio and he said, holy effing shit.
	How did you do this?
	Like he was jealous of me.
	The guy was making 20 million bucks a year and he was jealous of me in my little garage in the Valley in LA.
	And all I was doing, Was just trying to talk it out with people.
	That's gotten increasingly difficult, as you know, because the sides are kind of going their own way.
	But I would say what brings all these people roughly kind of together is basically the quest for truth.
	It's trying to get to something that is not lowest common denominator, that is not just bludgeoning us and making us all subservient to the system.
	It's just Some hope that we can solve some of these problems.
	I don't know that we can solve some of these problems, but I think it's the hope that brings all of us, the guys that watch you, make sense of what's going on here, and you hit the media in such a beautiful way.
	That moment you had with Bill Maher a couple months ago, I played it on my show 20 times, because it's such a perfect example of how you expose the frauds, and it's just because you're on the quest for truth, and just like me, I would say Rogan and the other guys.
	It's like, you don't know everything, but you're damn well going to try, and people appreciate that.
	Thank you.
	It seems a lot of it is about authenticity and integrity, and that's certainly something that we'll discuss when we're going to go over to locals in a minute.
	Why wouldn't we?
	For God's sake, Dave generated it out of his mind, along with me.
	Didn't you create that thing?
	It was quite valuable in the creation of Locals, another one of my inventions.
	This kind of integrity and authenticity, when we get over there, we'll talk about the complexity of this current Middle Eastern conflict and how it's caused division and hate, even with people that are not directly ideologically or religiously involved.
	I can see an escalation of hate.
	That seemed to be something that was being surmounted elsewhere.
	There was just a kind of an anti-establishment movement that seemed to be gaining momentum that now is starting to fracture in ways that sort of concern me, actually.
	But when it comes to what the independent media is able to do brilliantly, and perhaps why, you know, the people you've just listed have gained the territory and credibility that they have, is because when it comes to a story like the Nord Stream pipeline, when that happened a couple of years ago, whenever it was, Many people thought Russia didn't do that.
	The US have been talking about blowing up that pipeline, how it's vital to American interests.
	It was really clear that it would be some kind of project between Ukraine and the USA.
	Now evidence is emerging that that is the case.
	Will we see it reported on in a way that legitimately serves as a mere culpa and a genuine update?
	Like, oh look, the Nord Stream pipeline, it was Ukraine.
	And as, I suppose, as enthusiasm, shall we call it, for that conflict wanes, will we
	similarly see figures in the media that have advocated for that war, advocated for the
	ongoing funding of that war, acknowledge that it has not been successful in the way it is
	reported?
	You can't do pipeline stuff if you can, Dave.
	Yeah, well, as I say on my show all the time, I mean, the truth is a time-release pill these
	The thing is, you can't hide the truth.
	But one of the things that the corporate press did for a long time, before the internet, was they could basically set the agenda.
	You know, the Overton window was opened up in a very narrow way, and they could Pretty much tell you what was true.
	So, you know, from an American perspective, at 630 p.m.
	we had NBC News, CBS News, ABC News, and you only watched one or the other depending on whether you happen to like Tom Brokaw or Peter Jennings or Dan Rather.
	And they basically covered the same amount of stuff.
	Then the internet comes, it blows everything up, Now you have all of these voices.
	Now it puts a lot of pressure on guys like us to kind of do something true because your integrity is attached to it.
	But the Nord Stream story is a perfect example of this because you can go back to all of my videos.
	We didn't cover it that much, but the entire time I was like, I'm pretty sure Russia didn't blow up their own pipe.
	And we're going to have to find out more about this.
	And oh, yes, there is video of Joe Biden saying that that thing will never be functional.
	So do you think that maybe the US or Ukraine had a little something to do with it?
	So why is it that a guy like me, who I'm not an expert in, you know, geopolitical energy sector, why is it that I'm skeptical when I hear a story about that?
	Why is that when the Hunter Biden laptop story came out, I was like, wait a minute, I'm I'm pretty sure there's something here.
	It doesn't feel like Russian misinformation.
	Why is it that I didn't fall for Donald Trump, very fine people on both sides?
	And the media kept playing a clip of him saying, there's very fine people on both sides, but the next sentence out of his mouth is, uh, but that, but I totally condemn the neo Nazis and the racists.
	Like, why is it that a certain set of people fall for everything every single time?
	And then a couple of us, And by the way, I'm not saying I'm some freaking genius.
	I'm just a little skeptical of the machine.
	We don't fall for it.
	And again, that's what's kind of driving people to us.
	So no, I am not surprised that we are now hearing that there was some Ukrainian involvement, which most likely means there was American involvement.
	And the question is, how long does it take for that to bubble up to the top?
	I would also say it's sort of like, you know, Biden's mental capacity at this point.
	Everyone knows there's something wrong with him.
	We all talk about it for years.
	I was talking about it when he was running for president.
	But you can see it's just bubbling up to mainstream now because now they're starting to worry that he's going to lose the election.
	So they're like trying to tease it a little bit.
	You're allowed to kind of talk about it on CNN now in case they have to do something crazy and get rid of him before the election.
	Yeah, I suppose the same was true during the pandemic, where there was just nothing but absolute bombast, unrelenting propaganda, and then slowly now, over time, okay, the AstraZeneca one, we'll give you that, okay, Pfizer released a drug that wasn't the one they clinically trialled, Yeah, that indemnity thing was a crazy move.
	Like, slowly now, almost in a way, it seems like, I suppose, I suppose all propaganda is about managing the consciousness of the populace, giving information in a way that does not generate uprising.
	And I, you know, I guess one of the things we'll talk about, Dave, when we go on to locals is, is there a component of the escalation of geopolitical conflicts in the Middle East that's Playing a comparable role, calling division, legitimizing censorship, creating tension where there was starting to be consensus.
	A conversation we'll have in a second.
	Guys, we're gonna go on to Locals.
	If you're with us on Rumble, and I see you there, I see all you guys, I want to let you know that Alex Jones, a two-parter, are on Thursday and Friday this week.
	If you want to watch it right away, press the red button and join us on Locals that I invented.
	And you can join me and Dave Rubin for a conversation right now, as well as early access to interviews, readings of the Bible and other religious books, talk about new solutions, where we might critique the problem over here, we talk about solutions over there, and I want to welcome some of our new members like Ben Roman, Annonymous, Ryan636, Bela, Nadia Burr, Dawn, Alan, thank you for joining us on Locals.
	And why don't the rest of you join us on Locals right now, where I'm going to be asking Dave how this Middle Eastern conflict has caused division, has created new cries for censorship and has created, I think, even beyond the people that are directly involved in this terrible tragedy,

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