ARE WE BEING SILENCED!? The Battle For Free Speech! Plus, Jimmy Dore - Stay Free #209
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We've got a great show for you today.
In our item, here's the news.
No, here's the effing news.
We are going to be talking about the state and the legacy media's war on free speech and in particular how that has affected me this week.
We've also got Jimmy Dore coming up on the show and you know what Jimmy Dore will be advocating for.
Revolution, mass disobedience, new alliances between ordinary people, putting aside the barriers and boundaries of left and right, that we can come together to oppose increasingly authoritarian centralised power.
We're going to continue to do on this channel what we've always done.
Tell you the truth as best we can.
Listen to you as best we can.
So the first story we're going to talk about is Stoltenberg acknowledging that Putin invaded Ukraine due to NATO infringement.
A significant story because of course what we've mostly been schooled in is that Russia are a criminal nation, led by a lunatic in Putin that unprovoked attacked Ukraine.
As we always say, the Ukrainian people should be utmost in our thoughts
and the humanitarian imperatives that the world claims are what's driving this war
ought be what's driving a move towards peace.
But as you know, the military-industrial complex are significantly invested
in what some people, Jimmy Dore notably, regard as a money laundering operation.
Let's have a look at Stoltenberg acknowledging the simple truth that Putin was provoked.
President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021 and he actually sent a draft treaty that he wanted NATO to sign to promise no more NATO enlargement.
That was what he sent us.
And that was a precondition for not invade Ukraine.
Of course, we didn't sign that.
The opposite happened.
He wanted us to sign a promise never to enlarge NATO.
He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe.
We should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance.
Introducing some kind of E and B, a second class membership.
We rejected that.
So he went to war to prevent more NATO close to his borders.
He has got the exact opposite.
In a sense, what's being described there is the recipe for a peaceful resolution to this conflict, which many believe.
And let me know what you think in the chat.
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Now, what we've just heard there described is the reasons that Putin went to war with Ukraine.
Let's get into this story a little more deeply.
Jesse Stoltenberg asserted today that weakening Russia in Ukraine could allow the United States to intensify its efforts in countering China.
Stoltenberg and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs General Mark Milley believe the war in Ukraine will continue for years if Kiev is to achieve its military goals.
Stoltenberg said we must prepare ourselves for a long war in Ukraine.
Who would benefit from a long war in Ukraine?
Would it be the Ukrainian people or would it be the military-industrial complex?
Why don't you let us know in the chat what you think.
President Biden met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Thursday and announced the new tranche of US military aid for Ukraine that includes more cluster bombs which are notorious for killing and maiming civilians.
It seems that there's an absolute amorality when it comes to the approach of this war, when it comes to telling stories about this war, when it comes to dissenting against this war, when it comes to advocating for peace, when it comes to looking at what conditions may have led to this war.
In a minute, we're going to have our presentation.
Here's the news.
here's the F in News where I'm going to be talking about how the state, legacy media
and big tech cooperate with one another in order to control narratives that are plainly
against the interests of ordinary people. How they prevent us from becoming united around
topics as diverse as the pandemic and indeed this ongoing conflict. And also how the same
PsyOps units that used to be engaged in opposition against ISIS are now being deployed against
domestic populations. We're talking about that in a matter of moments. Also, we'll be
talking to Jimmy Dore. But I think it's important that we cover these vital issues that appear
to have considerable opposition from the mainstream legacy media. We're talking about what we've
always talked about. Big Pharma and their ability to assert and exert power over political
The military-industrial complex that seem to be able to control foreign policy, to generate, create war, and then find convenient excuses for why that war might be taking place.
Most of all, what we're advocating for is our shared collective voices and our ability to independently communicate with one another.
For the possibility that we might create new systems together.
If we don't have the ability to control currency, if we don't have the ability to create independent media, then we are slowly being corralled into a totalitarian space where nobody has any individual power.
We already live in a globalist, corporatist condition where unelected bodies, whether that's NATO, no one voted for them, the WHO, no one voted for them, or the UN, are in a position Where they are able to impose policy on sovereign nations.
Democracy is becoming meaningless and the only reason those stories are not being told is because legacy media are in lockstep with one another in order to prevent truthful, open and honest conversations happening that would allow us to form new alliances.
We'll be looking at that in Here's the News.
But now, without going too much more deeply into this Obvious crisis and counter-narrative to how the war between Ukraine and Russia began.
Let's have a look at the Empire State Building being lit up as a giant Pfizer needle.
For what reason exactly?
This is a press release about that story.
Today the Empire State Building turned its iconic building blue to announce that the CDC recommends everyone six months of age and older gets this season's updated COVID-19 shot.
The blue light symbolizes our gratitude and appreciation for the updated vaccines and all those who made it possible.
A literal monolith and icon of American culture is being turned into an advertisement for a private company.
When did the symbols of a great nation become co-opted by a corporation?
How has this been allowed to happen and how is it still allowed to be referred to as a democracy?
Let me know in the chat.
Marty Makary, Professor Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, wrote in the New York Post that Pfizer's version of the new vaccine has not been tested on humans at all.
We only have data about antibody production from 10 mice.
If I wasn't reading that from a reliable scientist myself, I would assume that it was untrue.
How is that plausible and feasible that a national cause, an international notion, can be presented to a global population on the basis of ten mice?
The experience of ten mice is being used to undergird an ongoing global program.
For me, that's a cause for some concern.
In summer 2020, as Covid vaccines moved ahead at warp speed, the companies behind them promised they wouldn't make too much money.
Let's see how that went.
Pfizer chairman Albert Baller was emphatic.
His company was developing a Covid vaccine for the good of humanity, not for money, he told Time magazine in 2020.
This is not business as usual, he said.
If you were calculating return on investment, we would never do these things.
We were discussing that back in March, what that means to human lives, to the economy of the world, so it must be that we take those measures.
Thus Pfizer would not overcharge for the mRNA vaccine it was developing with the German company BioNTech, Baller said.
We're going to charge governments a very, very nominal value, he said.
Asked directly if Pfizer intended to profit, Baller said, we will make a very, very marginal profit at this stage.
So were Pfizer telling the truth?
Pfizer made more than $100 billion in profits from the COVID vaccine in 2022 alone.
Those facts seem to me to be significant.
Those facts seem to me worthy of discussion.
And I don't think we're going to see that discussed on the mainstream media.
Let me know in the chat if you've noticed how the mainstream media reports on certain stories investigating them extremely thoroughly and elsewhere there is little or no debate or dissent.
What do you think about that?
What do you think is actually happening?
So whether it's the war in Ukraine and NATO's involvement in provoking it or Pfizer's relationship with the United States of America and their ability to co-opt National symbols of pride and turn them into corporate emblems that have only been, let's face it, tested on 10 mice.
It seems that the state and the media have a pretty close relationship.
Let's have a look at events this week.
You now know that I've been demonetized on YouTube.
You're fully well aware that the government wrote to social media platforms to demand that I be further censored.
Here's the news.
No, here's the effing news.
Thank you for choosing Fox News.
The news video.
No, here's the fucking news.
The corporatist state and global media war against free speech is in full swing.
How do I know?
Take a guess.
Today, of course, we're talking about events of the last week, but in particular, the collusion between big tech and government and an apparent concerted effort by legacy media and now the state and big tech to silence independent media voices.
Obviously, it's difficult for me to be entirely objective given the events of the last week, but that is what we must try to do.
And thankfully, we have some incredible reporting from the grey zone and elsewhere.
As well as being able to introduce you to the concept of the Trusted News Initiative, this is a long-standing agreement between global legacy media organizations to cooperate with one another, to corroborate one another, in order to shut down what they believe to be their true enemy, independent media voices.
What do they mean by that?
Do you think this is simply about business?
Do you think that this is about clicks?
and revenue?
Or do you think that there is something bigger at stake?
Something of incredible ideological significance?
What do you think is the relationship between the media and the state?
Do you think, looking back at the last couple of years, in particular the pandemic and the current war, that there has been support from the media when it comes to government policy and a lack of accountability and questioning When it comes to very important and significant questions.
Do you think that the legacy media has been investigating the causes of this war, the origins of this war, with the kind of vigour that you might have seen elsewhere?
Do you think that the legacy media has been investigating Big Pharma, the imperatives, incentives, financial undergirding of Big Pharma in the way that they have investigated other matters?
Let me know in the chat.
Let me know in the comments.
Because it seems to me more important now than ever before that we have to analyse Review and understand exactly what's happening literally on a global scale between the mainstream media, the state and big tech.
Let's get into it.
The author of letters to social media companies demanding the financial punishment of Russell Brand is a British lawmaker implicated in London's war on COVID-19 and Ukraine dissenters.
Her husband was a commander in the army's PSYOPS division.
The Grey Zone can now reveal that YouTube's financial censorship of Russell Brand is the result of an effort waged by a former British government minister who was responsible for London's crackdown on dissent during the Covid-19 pandemic.
Her husband has also participated in that campaign of state repression as deputy commander of the 77th Brigade, the British Army's psychological warfare division.
New developments suggest YouTube's censorship of Brand was driven by direct British government decree.
On September the 19th, the social media companies TikTok and Rumble received a pair of almost identical letters dispatched from Caroline Dynadge, the head of the UK Parliament's Culture, Media and Sports Committee.
Dynadge informed the companies she was concerned that Brand may be able to profit from his content published on both platforms.
She then suggested they impose financial penalties.
In a sense, the bypass of judicial process right to punitive measures, financial ones, seems like an interesting stance for a government minister to be suggesting to a big tech platform.
The committee's letter to Rumble contained a direct demand for demonetization.
We would like to know whether Rumble intends to join YouTube in suspending Mr. Brown's ability to earn money on the platform.
In a withering response to Dianigi's letter, Rumble CEO Chris Pavlosky asserted that Rumble emphatically rejects the UK Parliament's demands.
This is, of course, why we are fortunate to be on Rumble.
Please join us there.
Please consider supporting us so that we can continue with our organisation.
I'm beginning to think that our organisation is having an impact due to recent events.
The CEO continued, We regard it as deeply inappropriate and dangerous that the UK Parliament would attempt to control who is allowed to speak on our platform or earn a living from doing so.
Caroline Dainich served as the UK Government's Digital and Culture Minister from February 2020 to September 2021, making her de facto chief of the Department for Culture, Media and Sports, DCMS.
In this capacity, she was personally responsible for overseeing construction of the repressive World Economic Forum-endorsed online safety bill, which has been criticised by rights groups for threatening the rights to free expression and privacy.
For her leading role in crafting the bill, Dynage was honoured by the Princess Royal with the title of Dame Commander of the British Empire.
Moreover, during this period, the DCMS was home to the shadowy, intelligence-official-run Counter Disinformation Unit, which policed Covid-19 disinformation narratives online.
Investigations by the civil liberties organisation Big Brother Watch has revealed that instead of suppressing content that posed
risks to public health, the CDU was preoccupied with censoring and deplatforming reasonable
online criticisms of the British government's Covid-19 response, including opposition to
lockdowns and vaccine passports.
What we appear to be looking at here are a set of collaborating institutions that have
an agenda and then pursue that agenda, even when in pursuing it they have to bypass, repress,
obstruct or absolutely ignore existing judicial or regulatory bodies and protocols by moving
straight to punitive measures, by bypassing judicial systems.
In particular, in the event of COVID, of course, repressing true information, preventing healthy online debate.
It's plain that there were narratives that were repressed during the COVID pandemic.
It's plain during the ongoing Ukraine-Russia conflict that, well, for example, Russia Today are not allowed to be on most social media sites.
Rumble continue to host Russia Today so that people are able to discern from themselves propaganda from truth.
This, I feel, is an important component in any democracy.
Let me know if you agree in the chat.
According to an official fact sheet, the CDU's focus turned to the Ukraine war in 2022.
Doesn't it seem odd to you that you can move from a health pandemic to a war?
Aren't they quite distinct, compartmentalised issues?
Doesn't it seem, therefore, that the real issue is not the subject themselves, a pandemic and how to handle that sensibly, or a war and how to handle that judiciously and correctly, but Dissent itself.
The ability to oppose existing narratives.
The ability to begin to organise communities against establishment narratives and preferred systemic outcomes is being closed down, I would suggest, on the basis of this, rather aggressively.
Let me know what you think.
Dionysius' husband, Mark Lancaster, helped lead London's Blitz on pandemic dissent as Deputy Commander of the British Army's 77th Brigade between June 2018 and July 2022.
Specialised in behaviour and attitudinal change, which in itself seems like a strange military unit.
What are we going to do about behaviour and attitudes?
Mind your own business and focus on just wars?
There aren't any.
The 77th Brigade maintains a vast militia of real, fake and automated social media accounts to disseminate and amplify pro-state messaging and discredit domestic and foreign enemies.
During the pandemic, the 77th Brigade targeted people within Britain and across the West with advanced psychological manipulation strategies honed on battlefields against enemy militaries.
It seems that, in the absence of an external enemy, the domestic population becomes the enemy.
And any ability to organise and communicate with the domestic population in order that they act on behalf of their own interests has to be silenced and shut down using whatever techniques are necessary and possible.
It's only a short while since the pandemic ended and who knows, maybe the pandemic will begin again.
But we now know that at the beginning of the pandemic, theories and ideas were being discussed at the very highest level that were dismissed publicly.
We now know that experts with legitimate voices, valid views, clinical trials, significant
information were silenced not because of your safety or my safety, but precisely because
it was necessary to control them.
Once these institutions exist, it becomes apparent that they can be deployed not only
with a pandemic or a war, but potentially with anything that poses a threat to existing
narratives.
The online profile of a 77th Brigade veteran notes that they were deployed straight from
a tour of the Middle East where they successfully implemented behavioural change strategies
against ISIS, to countering disinformation and misinformation during the Covid-19 crisis.
Doesn't it seem odd that ISIS and the COVID-19 crisis were handled by the same unit, were treated in the same way, when ISIS were the most overt, explicit, amplified enemy and threat that the world had ever faced at that time?
And doesn't it seem to you as well, a coincidence worth noting, that at the commencement of the COVID-19 pandemic, the problem of ISIS just appeared to disintegrate entirely?
I'm not suggesting any conspiratorial reason for this, I'm sure there are military, strategic, geopolitical, ideological and philosophical reasons for this.
But the very fact that the same unit that was used to confront and counter ISIS is used to confront and counter you strikes me as worthy of consideration and contemplation.
Let me know what you think.
However, in January, an ex-brigade whistleblower revealed how the Ministry of Defence and RRU routinely circumvented British law to advance the government's crusade against pandemic dissent.
It appears there are financial ties between Google and the person that wrote that letter.
It's worth noting too that Google is a competitor to Rumble, a significant competitor, a near monopolist.
How do media organisations cooperate with one another when it comes to present in a news narrative?
You will remember perhaps in particular the Joe Rogan horse medicine moment.
You will recall how you saw a spate of comparable headlines from around the world using the same wording.
You will perhaps recall that you never once heard Hold on a second.
This is a Nobel Prize winning medicine, the inventor of which officially has a statue outside of medical organizations.
A revered and significant medicine was simultaneously referred to as horse paste around the world.
How does something like that happen?
How does the media operate in coordination and lockstep to present a narrative that appears to be impenetrable, so immersive and absolute that it simply must be true?
Well, apparently there's an organization called the Trusted News Initiative.
We've said many times on our channel that when you have a word like trusted in the name of an organisation, it's worth questioning whether or not you can trust them.
Let's find out what the Trusted News Initiative is.
In short, I can tell you that it's a collaboration between legacy media and big tech sites in In order to prevent independent media voices communicating, how effective could that be?
Is it possible to shut down independent media?
What strategies would be deployed?
How would they work together?
Surely the BBC and CNN and the New York Times and various other organisations, online ones like Facebook, would have a vested interest in competing with one another.
Is that true?
Let's find out.
In January, the Chairman of the Children's Health Defence, Robert Kennedy, and other plaintiffs filed a lawsuit against the Trusted News Initiative, alleging antitrust and First Amendment violations.
Trusted News Initiative, launched in March 2020, is a coalition of some of the world's largest news organisations, including the Associated Press, the BBC, the Washington Post, and Reuters, who partnered with Big Tech with the aim of stopping the spread of misinformation.
It's just a couple of weeks to stop the spread.
Kennedy, CHD and several other organisations, journalists and individuals filed a lawsuit that these legacy news organisations partnered with big tech to collectively censor online news about COVID-19 and the 2020 presidential election that did not align with the official narratives.
The result was a significant loss in visibility and revenue.
It appears that apparently independent, or at least separate, news organizations are collaborating, and I hesitate to use this word, conspiring, to control global news narratives in some of the most important stories in the world.
Why?
Well, let's explain to you that their intention, it appears, and this is explicit, and we have a quote that undergirds this claim, the explicit intention is to shut down independent media voices.
The lawsuit notes that there are two categories of TNI members, legacy news organizations and big tech platforms.
You will remember that there was a time where on certain platforms, for example, YouTube, where we are now significantly demonetized, you used to have the sense that independent news organizations could flourish, could burgeon, could come up, could establish an audience precisely because they would report in a different way to the mainstream news media.
Over time, it's become clear that whether it's on the left or the right, when it comes to significant issues, Mainstream media and legacy media organizations report in the same way.
I'm talking, for example, about the pandemic or about war.
Important defining issues.
Initially, there was a point where online platforms housed independent media in a favorable way.
But something appeared to change.
It appears that big tech platforms and legacy media started to operate in alignment with one another.
Well, why would that be?
And is there any paper trail for how that happened and why that would happen?
The TNI exists to, in its own words, choke off and stamp out online news reporting that the Trusted News Initiative, or any of its members, preemptorily deems misinformation.
The lawsuit states, choke off and stamp out independent news voices.
Let me know what you think in the comments.
TNI members have targeted and suppressed completely accurate online reporting by non-mainstream news publishers concerning both COVID-19 on matters including treatment, immunity, lab leak, vaccine jury, and lockdowns and lockdown mandates, and US elections, such as the Hunter Biden laptop story.
It adds, by their own admission, members of the TNI have agreed to work together, and have in fact worked together, to exclude from the world's dominant internet platforms rival news publishers who engage in reporting that challenges and competes with TNI members reporting on certain issues relating to COVID-19 and US politics.
My objectivity has been strongly challenged over recent weeks, but I recognise that I am an insignificant individual in the scheme of things.
What is incredibly important is independent media.
What is incredibly important is the ability to hold the establishment to account.
What is incredibly important is that you have independent media that doesn't just accept government narratives, but investigates, challenges mainstream legacy media narratives and government narratives.
For example, a group like the Grey Zone.
It doesn't even matter where politically they might lie, on the left or the right.
This is becoming increasingly irrelevant.
Because what we are seeing is the rise of centralisation and authoritarianism.
A desire to censor, to surveil, to control, to shut down dissent and to deprive people of the option of meaningful political alternatives.
What we are being given is a homogenised media space that literally has an accord To agree with one another and to defy, shut down, oppress, choke out, stamp on independent media voices.
Why is that?
Well, one might imagine it's because they are in absolute alignment with centralist state and globalist elite dictates and they simply don't want opposing voices out there.
Because if there are opposing voices out there, then we have an alternative.
We have an alternative view.
We have the ability to oppose their agenda.
Once independent voices are stamped out, then all you have are legacy media outlets who already agree with one another and already agree with the corporatist state.
That means there will be no opposition.
There will be no dissent.
While the Trusted News Initiative publicly purports to be a self-appointed truth police, and that's not really the way to appoint police, is it?
Uh, who should be the police?
Me?
extirpating online misinformation, in fact, it has suppressed wholly accurate I believe it goes beyond even economic interests.
I believe this is about ideology and the ability to oppose ideology.
I believe this is about freedom.
I believe this is about real democracy.
Because for there to be real democracy, there has to be dissent.
to pursue economic interests. I believe it goes beyond even economic interests. I believe
this is about ideology and the ability to oppose ideology.
I believe this is about freedom.
I believe this is about real democracy. Because for there to be real democracy, there has
to be dissent. There has to be open communication. There has to be the ability to challenge mainstream
media narratives.
You can't have a media that is in lockstep with itself, immersively attacking on subjects like the war, COVID-19 and how to handle it, and a host of other issues.
Here we have the evidence that the mainstream media is working together to support a state agenda.
Do you agree?
Let me know.
To support the allegation, the lawsuit cites several public statements made by TNI members.
In March 2020, then Senior News Controller at BBC News, Jamie Angus explained TNI's strategy to beat disinformation.
Now remember we've said for a long time, disinformation is an extraordinary new term.
Disinformation, misinformation, malinformation.
What is meant?
Often it's information that is at odds with the agenda of the powerful.
So here's that quote.
Because actually the real rivalry now is not between, for example, the BBC and CNN globally.
It's actually between all trusted news providers.
Trusted means members of this cartel.
Trusted news providers and a tidal wave of unchecked reporting.
Uncensored reporting?
That's being piped out mainly through digital platforms.
Independent media like this.
That's the real competition now in the digital media world.
Of course organisations will always compete against one another for audiences, but the existential threat, I think, is that overall breakdown in trust, so that trusted news organisations lose in the long term if audiences just abandon the idea of a relationship of trust with news organisations.
And what is happening with trust in mainstream media organisations?
Well, nearly 60% of people see mainstream media as a threat to democracy, according to one poll.
The UK's got the second lowest levels of trust in the press in a survey of 24 countries, only Egypt having less trust.
America's trust in media remains at a new record low.
And trust in media is so low that half of Americans now believe that news organizations deliberately mislead them.
So if you're in America, you're already accustomed to the idea that the mainstream media deliberately misleads you.
Why?
Because they want to destroy independent media, because they are in alliance with centralist state and corporatist imperatives, and because they do not want dissenting and opposing voices.
And remember we showed you earlier, when it comes to the intelligence and psyops component of this, it doesn't matter whether you're a foreign combatant in the Middle East, specifically ISIS, Or someone that has questions about Covid-19.
You are regarded as an enemy of the centralist state and corporate media narrative and you have to be shut down.
The spokesman for the Trusted News Initiative continued, So actually we've got a lot more to hold us together than
we have to work in competition with one another. Plaintiffs are online news publishers who
as a result of the TNI's group boycott have been censored, demonetized, demoted, throttled,
shadow banned and or excluded entirely from platforms like Facebook, YouTube,
Twitter and Instagram.
Explaining how TNI acts as a global media monopoly, CHD president Mary Holland said,
They couch what they're doing, their conspiracy to suppress it.
Antitrust is against trusts.
i.e. the voices of dissent about election information and Covid information,
has a need to preserve the trust of the people and upgrade the trust.
By censoring independent voices, what they're doing is economic suppression.
Antitrust is against trusts, is against monopolies.
And what the TNI has done is essentially create a global media monopoly in the English language.
Plainly, this is a story that is much bigger than me.
Plainly, the Trusted News Initiative has an agenda, an explicit agenda, to throttle and choke independent media.
Plainly, the government are reaching out to ask big tech platforms
to suppress the voices of content creators from independent media outlets,
particularly those that are dissenting.
And as you have seen, many of those media organizations have been willing to comply.
It seems to me highly possible and likely that legacy media organizations
and big tech platforms are collaborating in a variety of ways.
Look at the reporting on geopolitical conflicts.
Look at the ability of the military-industrial complex to apparently control those narratives and shut down dissent and direct public funds.
Look at what happened in the pandemic period and how difficult it was to have true information and legitimate experts able to present their views.
Plainly, there is something happening.
We can see the legislation for it in all of the Five Eyes countries.
We can see that the Trusted News Initiative is a cartel of groups with a clear agenda.
They are not competing with one another.
They are competing with independent media voices.
And that's not because the independent media voices themselves are important.
There are thousands of them.
That's what is significant.
That is what is powerful.
What is truly important is the ability for dissent, your dissent, to be expressed.
The ability for those of us that disagree with this system, that disagree with centralised authoritarianism, to have the ability to communicate with one another, to have the ability to discuss these topics, to have the ability to oppose an agenda that seems to me to be about closing down individual freedom, closing down democracy, Centralizing power.
Destroying dissent.
Advancing surveillance and censorship.
No matter what crisis, the outcome is always the same.
We have to shut down dissent invoices.
And when you have PSYOP organizations that treat people that have questions about a health issue the same way that they would treat terrorists, then I think it's time to look at the way that information is being reported and the way that information is being conveyed.
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Here's the fucking news!
Joining me now is Jimmy Dore, comedian, political commentator, and host of The Jimmy Dore Show.
Jimmy, thank you for joining me this week.
My pleasure.
Thanks for having me.
Obviously, I now, in particular, I have a new experience on the way that the media and the state can cooperate and corroborate one another's narratives and stories.
I'm beginning to sense that if you publicly question important stories that are agenda led,
like for example, the war in Ukraine or the response to the COVID pandemic,
that it appears that there is some significant heft behind controlling those narrative spaces
and preventing them from being overtly challenged.
Can you tell me what your personal experience is around censorship and whether or not you ever personally
feel there is an attempt to close down independent media voices?
Well, a hundred percent.
I I've experienced it.
I experience it every day with YouTube demonetizing videos for no reason.
The first time it happened, they took down, I think, three or maybe five of my videos in 2021.
Because I was doing videos that talked about the efficacy of the vaccine and I stated that it didn't stop transmission or contraction of the virus which we all know now and at that time I had kind of pieced it together myself and I had on Dr. Robert Malone who explained how that worked to me and then I got censored by YouTube for that and when I asked what was the censorship for and why did you take down these five videos and they said it was because I gave misinformation saying the vaccine didn't stop transmission.
And when I showed them, well, the FDA says they don't know if it stops transmission, that they hope it does.
And so their response to that was, oh, no, no, we made a mistake.
It's because you said it doesn't stop contraction.
So they just changed the whole thing.
They gave me a strike on YouTube.
You know how important that is.
Well, they gave me a warning, which is the first step to giving you a strike.
And so I've had that happen and every day now the demonetization of videos have been ramped up.
The most recent ridiculous one was I did a video about Justin Trudeau being protested by Canadians over how he treated the truckers over the vaccine and over their protests.
I did a video just showing people protesting him and they demonetized it and the reason they gave was that it was targeted harassment So somehow I'm not allowed to show people protesting the leader of Canada, the most powerful person in all of Canada, because I'm harassing him.
So they're protecting the powerful and they're censoring the powerless.
The people speaking to the power, they're censoring them.
I've experienced it every day.
It seems extraordinary that an organisation like Pfizer is able to assert as much power and control over the legacy media as it currently does.
It seems extraordinary that we have social spectacles like the Empire State Building being lit up as a Pfizer vaccine jab.
It's extraordinary that the ability for even relatively small independent media organisations Like ours, to inquire appears to be met with such hostility.
And it also appears that regardless of the subject, whether or not it's war or pandemic response, the same PSYOP units, I'm speaking in particular in the UK, the same PSYOP unit moved effortlessly from responding to ISIS, to responding to what it called COVID disinformation, to responding to dissent around the war.
It's difficult to not start to appreciate that the population, the public, the citizenry are actually the enemies of the state and their corporate allies.
This is becoming clearer and clearer and it seems to me extraordinary that we've arrived at this point where free speech and ordinary protocols of justice are being bypassed.
How have we gotten here Jimmy and what dangers does it pose in the coming years?
Well, we've gotten here because they have to control the narrative.
Before, it was easier for them to control the narrative because they held all the strings to the media.
So now that we have media, social media, and things like YouTube, Rumble, that we can actually get our message out to question authority, that's what's dangerous for them.
And so they have to control the narrative.
They have to censor things that are detrimental to the establishment.
Because if they can't do that, then they have to start disappearing people.
And that's a little harder, and it's a little more risky.
So right now, they can discredit you.
Let's just be honest, right?
So when Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox News, It wasn't because he was lying.
Those people lie on Fox News all the time.
They lie on corporate media all the time.
They're currently lying to you about COVID and they're currently lying to you at the top of their lungs about the Ukraine war.
Nobody gets fired for that.
You get fired for telling the truth.
And that's the thing that scares them the most.
You don't get in trouble for lying.
You get promoted for lying.
Look at Rachel Maddow.
She did the most Russiagate segments of anybody on television.
She told people that Russia was going to turn off their heat in the winter.
She told them everything, every lie that could possibly be told about Russia and Russiagate and Donald Trump.
And she got rewarded with a $35 million contract.
Which is $100,000 a day.
That's what they pay propagandists to lie.
But if you tell the truth, you will be discredited and you will be demonetized for sure.
I mean, so they control, you know, it's a handful of billionaires that run the world right now.
And people don't realize this.
You know, there's that movie Network, I don't know if you're familiar with it, but in the movie, Ned Beatty says there are no countries anymore, there are only companies and the international transfer of dollars.
And so people like us, we upset that balance, that international transfer of dollars, because the truth might get to the taxpayers, might get to the people, and there might be a revolution.
Now, in the United States, during the Great Depression, FDR The only reason he gave people Social Security, the only reason he gave people a jobs program, was because the establishment, the ruling capitalists, were afraid of an actual revolution.
And so FDR told the wealthy, from the class that he came from, he said that if you don't give them some of your money, they're going to come and take all of your money.
And so that's the only thing that scares them is an actual revolution, which is what I think we need right now in the United States or in the West, for sure, because we are controlled by a handful of billionaires.
Right now, in the United States, we have people living under every bridge.
People don't have a living wage.
80% of workers live paycheck to paycheck.
We don't have health care in America.
People still go bankrupt.
I was one of them went bankrupt when I got sick.
Unlimited money to Ukraine.
And so what does that tell you?
So Chris Hedges once said that they're lying, cheating right out in the public right now and nobody cares.
And that's exactly what's happening.
They've concocted this Ukraine war narrative so they can do a money laundering operation, which is now called the Ukraine war, which they provoked so they can start their money laundering operation to give it to their donors.
This is all about the donor class running our Congress and our presidency, at least in the United States, the donor class does, which is why they're also criminalizing Donald Trump.
Because they've demonized Donald Trump as a white supremacist.
That's what the establishment flexes now.
First they call you a sexist, then they call you a misogynist, then they call you a white supremacist.
And they've done this to Donald Trump.
And now it's harder to sell wars with someone you've demonized as a white supremacist.
So now he's no longer useful to the establishment.
So that's why they have to discredit him and criminalize his organization.
So that's exactly what's going on.
And so now there's also protesters in Atlanta, Georgia, who are protesting against the expansion of the police state there.
It's called Stop Cop City.
So the same jury that used a thing called the RICO laws.
RICO laws were invented in the United States specifically to go after the mafia.
They're now using it to go after their political opponents.
Whether it be Donald Trump or whether it be protesters to get the expansion of the police state in the United States and people pretend they don't see those two things.
You don't have to like Donald Trump to be worried about this.
I'm not a Donald Trump supporter.
I never voted for Donald Trump, but I can see it's just like that old saying when they came for the Jews.
I didn't say anything because I wasn't.
When they came for the trade unionists, I didn't say anything.
But when they came for me, there was nobody left to say anything.
And that's why it's important we stand up now and say something about the criminalization of the politics and the political opponents of the establishment.
That's what we're seeing left and right, whether about COVID, whether about the truckers, whether it be about climate change and the way they're using our fear of climate change to control us, manipulate us, and get us to hate each other.
And that's another thing that the establishment corporate news does in the United States, is they report everything.
Every story in a way that turns the country against each other.
I'm supposed to blame right now, the establishment wants me to.
They did a controlled demolition of our economy during COVID that wrecked everybody except a handful of millionaires and billionaires at the top.
And they want me to hate my neighbor and blame my neighbor for the pain I'm feeling because they wouldn't take a vaccine that didn't work the way they said it did in the first place.
Well, I'm not going to hate my neighbor because they're suffering just like everybody else is under the same garbage from the oligarchy, and I'm going to join with them to oppose them.
And it's so bad in the United States that they won't even give money to those victims in Maui right now.
They got totally wiped out.
He offers them $700 Joe Biden, but only if we give another 24 billion to the most corrupt
country in Europe with absolutely no oversight whatsoever.
It's 100% money laundering operation, the Ukraine war.
We're completely corrupted.
The only thing I think that can save us now in the United States is a revolution that
takes down and tears apart the government and the corporate media.
Jimmy, that is a powerful piece of rhetoric that you have just unloaded.
And it's impossible not to take note of Julian Assange's famous observation that the function
of government is to take money from public hands and to place it in the hands of private
interests and that they have become adept at providing means to undertake that very
thing.
This criminalisation of opposition in all its forms, whether that's at the level of the individual in order to facilitate censorship, whether it's to legitimise more surveillance, whether it's to create more and more opposition between communities that might otherwise be united, appears to be a technique and a tactic that is plainly on the rise.
When you talk about revolution like that, and when you describe the conditions in your country, and it's not that different in our country, Jimmy, to tell you the truth, It seems that what you're describing are the perfect conditions for revolution.
Disenfranchisement, disenchantment, attacks on not only humanity itself, but almost the essence of humanity.
Values like kindness, compassion, unity, forgiveness, redemption, justice.
The institutions themselves are becoming an anathema to our highest creeds, our highest values.
I would say the apotheosis of humanity is our ability to cultivate and create cultures around compassion and kindness and unity and fairness and justice.
And it seems that these models, these modes, are being broken down.
When you describe a figure like Trump being criminalised in the way that he evidently and plainly has, vilified to the point where there are certain people who can't even hear his name without it like being a dark bell rung in their hearts, it shows us that we're at a point of almost ubiquitous fracture.
I wonder, Jimmy, how you see the role of independent media relating to new independent political movements And even if those political movements are currently within, in your country, the main parties, I'm talking specifically, I suppose, about Bobby Kennedy, who's emerging out of this pandemic and war period as an authentic voice.
And in spite of his surname and the obvious fact that That means to a degree he's a legacy politician.
He is creating a lot of hope.
He's creating a lot of traction.
He's the first political figure, perhaps other than Trump, with Trump's relationship with Twitter, who's been able to gain access to an audience without having to move through the legacy media gatekeepers who seem hell-bent on preventing oppositional voices from uniting and from being amplified.
When you talk about revolution, obviously it seems in 2023 with a militarized police force, with a surveillance state, with anti-protest laws, with the ability, increasing ability, of governments to switch off money supply, to shut off your tech, to shut off your ability to communicate, that the type of revolution that we're discussing would have to have a very different flavor and would perhaps have to coalesce around political figures that are Willing to carry that burden?
Do you think it is a revolution that requires leaders?
Do you think it is a revolution that's happening at the level of the nation?
Do you think it's a revolution that by its nature has to include a significant portion of the population?
And if so, what do you think is going to be the significance of relationships between independent media, particularly if independent media is under attack, and independent political voices?
How are these new nexuses, or nexi, Well, I do.
I think Bobby Kennedy, his almost entire campaign is being run in alternative independent media.
He's going around the mainstream news media, and he's going directly to the people, he's going through podcasts.
And so, of course, they have to demonize those podcasts.
I just saw the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, said he's worried because his son is listening to Joe Rogan.
And I'm like, yeah, well, guess what?
Joe Rogan didn't lie to his kid about the Ukraine war, about the truckers, about COVID mandates, vaccines, lockdowns.
Guess who did?
Gavin Newsom did.
And the establishment, this idea that the corporate news and the government officials put forward that somehow we're at risk in peril by independent media spreading misinformation.
Well, I'm here to tell you, we all know that the The number one spreader of misinformation and lies is the government.
The second is the corporate media.
And third is everybody else.
And it's a distant third.
And so this idea that we have to worry about independent citizens having an opinion and sharing it on social media, that that's the problem, again, is misdirection.
It's having us turn on each other instead of turning on the powerful.
And so we have to keep our eye on the ball.
And what happened is so So I remember when Christian Smalls, if you don't know who that is, he started the Amazon Union on Staten Island in New York City.
And he was a black guy who got fired by Amazon at the beginning of COVID.
And he stood out there and he organized those workers against him.
That's why they stress identity politics.
Let's remember what identity politics is.
That's who's working at that Amazon fulfillment center.
So this is class.
This is, they don't want us coming together by class.
That's why they want, that's why they stress identity politics.
Let's remember what identity politics is.
Instead of the establishment fixing a problem, what they do is they put someone in charge of the problem
from a marginalized group.
So now if you still complain about that problem, they can dismiss you as a phobe of some kind,
a sexist or a white supremacist.
That's what that about.
You know what I say, if it was 1860, the Democrats wouldn't be fixing slavery, they'd be bragging about their first transgendered slave owner.
So this is real and that's a joke but it's also very serious because they want us to identify as individuals and they don't want us to identify along class lines because that is the only thing that scares people.
People from the left and the right and the center coming together to realize we have a common interest and a common enemy.
That's the only thing that could scare them and that's the only thing that will do anything to them and that's why it was so important that they demonize the truckers in Canada.
They had to call them white supremacists.
They called them Nazis.
And by the way, the truckers in Canada were vaccinated at a higher rate than the general population.
They weren't protesting medicine.
They were protesting bullshit authoritarianism.
And they were right.
And they were freedom fighters.
But in the United States, our corporate media so propagandizes us.
That we can't tell the difference between a freedom fighter and a Nazi.
We look at the truckers and we call them Nazis and we look at the Nazis in Ukraine and we call them freedom fighters.
That is the upside down backwards world we have us living in right now.
It's actually literally Orwellian where the meaning of words is being altered, where the ability to communicate is being shut down, where a kind of existential Crisis is being induced so that people don't feel free to communicate, don't feel safe to have opinions, don't feel safe to knock the edges off between the obvious differences between people that we can find common ground together.
Your example of Christian Smalls I think is apposite because what he created and what he participated in was significant because by bypassing the assumed division that the top-down elite model would impose, you're able to actually gain some traction.
You're actually able to locate some power Where ordinarily there is just a kind of existential despair.
If you're working at an Amazon site, whether it's in the UK, Tilbury, where I'm from, or whether it's in Staten Island, presumably nearer to where you're from, it doesn't matter.
You're suffering under the same conditions.
I suppose one of the things we have to face is that the models of the last century are starting to become defunct.
Models that emerged out of industry, like socialist movements that emerged out of industry, in particular union movements, do not seem to be able, other than in the example that you've just given, to operate at scale in a way that's meaningful, particularly not when confronted with a kind of centralist behemoth of this nature.
I suppose we live in Unprecedented times of scale.
There was never before the ability to have the kind of globalism that we currently have, where there are unelected bureaucratic bodies, whether that's NATO or the WHO, that have a level of power that's unimaginable.
That alloyed to the kind of ability to communicate and control the big tech platforms have, mean that The ability to organise and confront of ordinary people has to radically alter.
The rhetoric that you and I engage in, and I'm complimenting you now Jimmy, you convey this
stuff so beautifully, so passionately, so articulately, and so clearly, is plainly a
valuable weapon. But I wonder how we escalate beyond this point of communication to the point
of organisation.
Because clearly it seems that this is something that has to happen at scale because every single crisis is treated as an opportunity.
Every single crisis seems to have the same resolution.
Limit and prohibit the power of individuals.
Increase the power of the state.
Ignore the impact of large, centralised organisations on the problem.
For example, if you take climate change, which of course I'm entirely sympathetic towards, it's just I know that whenever solutions are offered, they're usually solutions that are punitive to ordinary people, rather than solutions that may impact the profit of powerful organisations, or impact the business model, even, of powerful organisations.
It seems, I suppose, God, what I'm starting to realise, even as I'm talking to you, is that the role we have is about providing cartilage and connection and hope.
Without some kind of hope, it becomes impossible to even conceive of moving forwards.
Jim, I've got a whole bunch of things that we can run through, like currently Zelensky is in DC requesting $24 billion.
And this is, again, Off the agenda, particularly among progressive Democrats, isn't any kind of argument for peace advocacy.
In fact, peace is being regarded as the problem rather than war.
Tell us what that indicates.
So, they just had a climate march in New York City when I was there.
I think they said 25,000 people showed up to it.
Now, what they had was a bunch of, quote-unquote, progressive Democrats speaking there.
And so, they're supposed to be opposing climate change and fossil fuels, while, of course, the Democratic Party is opening up Alaska to drilling, and they blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, which is the biggest.
So, Joe Biden and the Democrats are the biggest eco-terrorists in the world.
This idea that they're actually fighting climate change is garbage.
What they're using is our fear of climate change to control us, right?
And so they also are demonizing communism, right?
So a lot of people in the United States anyway, the new meme is to equate what happened during COVID with the Democrats, the left, and communism.
So I have to explain to those people, this wasn't communism.
This is called capitalism and the corporate capture of our government.
This was done to us by capitalists.
It wasn't done to us by communists.
This was done to us by Pfizer.
This is done to us by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times and the bought media and the bought government politicians.
So this idea that it's communism is wrong.
The other idea that Somehow those Democrats who are fighting climate change are true is garbage because they all support the Ukraine war.
Now here's a fact that might stun some people.
The number one emitter of carbon dioxide in the world is the U.S.
military.
By far is the biggest emitter of carbon dioxide in the world.
We have around a thousand military bases around the They just built three more new military bases in the Philippines, and they put one in Syria.
They built a military base in another country that we are illegally occupying.
And then, of course, there's the Ukraine war.
And those Democrats who are out there purporting to be opposed to climate change and fossil fuels are supporting war 100%.
So that's a lie.
And if those people were serious about fighting climate change, they would say, hey, maybe we need to shut down a couple hundred military bases.
That would be the first place I would start.
That's the last place they're starting.
In fact, they're expanding the military.
It's all about empire.
This is all about more money for the establishment that pulls the strings and pulls the levers of government.
Government is no longer there for you.
Government is there for, of, and by the corporation and the handful of billionaires, the WEF.
Right now, the WHO is supposed to be dictating health policy in the United States, especially on YouTube and Google.
There's an unelected body that's been funded.
You know who the biggest funder to the WHO is?
Bill Gates.
China and then Bill Gates through himself, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and Baidavi, which is a pro-vaccine organization that he also funded.
So it's one billionaire, the richest guy in the world, is dictating policy on YouTube, Google, that surrounds everything from economics to healthcare to climate to everything.
It's being A handful of billionaires are running the world right now.
And people need to really wake up to it.
And once they do, they will shut things down.
And how do you protest this?
Well, Barack Obama, he was the guy, everybody loved Barack Obama.
He was not a departure from George Bush.
He was a continuation of George Bush.
Barack Obama took us from two wars to seven.
Barack Obama kicked 5.1 million families, not people, 5.1 million families out of their homes During an economic crisis engineered by Wall Street while at the same time he made sure the Wall Street bankers got their bonuses.
He built those cages Donald Trump put Hispanics in.
He deported twice as many Hispanics as Donald Trump did.
And he dropped more bombs than George Bush.
Right now they're trying to put Donald Trump in prison as George Bush and Dick Cheney walk Free men after everyone knows they ordered a torture program.
And Barack Obama was supposed to, he's constitutionally required to prosecute those people like Dick Cheney and George Bush for torturing people and ordering a torture program.
But he didn't.
Why?
Because he works for the same people.
His entire cabinet came from one email from Citigroup.
How do I know that?
Julian Assange revealed that, which is why they called him a rapist and he's in jail for the last 12 years.
That's why, because he told the truth about the establishment, not because he lied about the establishment.
And Barack Obama went on to then make protesting criminal.
How did he do that?
He repealed habeas corpus.
Habeas corpus.
So now you don't have a right to a trial, you don't have a right.
And all they have to do is say that you're a terrorist and they can give you what they call indefinite detention.
Meaning they can lock you up without a trial, without even charging you.
And that's what Barack Obama made happen.
He signed that law.
And the NDA 1021, he signed it, and he did it on New Year's Eve so nobody knew about it.
So now if you go to protest, like if I want to go protest, they're going to call me.
If I want to protest the new oil well, or I want to protest whatever, they'll call you and you're a climate terrorist.
Or you're an economic terrorist.
And all they have to do is put terrorist at the end, and they can put you in jail indefinitely, lock you up, and silence you, and that is thanks to Barack Obama.
And that's why the establishment loves Barack Obama, and that's why they hate everybody else who points that out.
So I don't remember what the actual question was, but things are way worse than people actually think.
It's extraordinary when heroes that the culture offers us are so entrenched within systemic corruption of a scale that's difficult to believe, even as you recite it, even though many of the things you relayed are facts I'm familiar with.
Obviously, Obama's role in 2008 and the bailouts, but that habeas corpus, I was unaware of that.
And Again, the conflation of opposition with terrorism is clearly one of the pieces required to build us towards a dystopia.
And sometimes, Jimmy, doing what we do for a living, when you're reporting one minute on increasing surveillance, the next minute on increasing censorship, the next on money flooding towards a war that you describe as a money laundering organisation, The inability of democracy to function, the closing down of dissent in voices.
It feels like an immersive experience.
You can feel now how the militarization of the police, the banning of protest, you can see how the pieces are being laid out to create an inevitable corridor towards indefatigable tyranny, to the point where opposition becomes just Inconceivable.
In addition to that, there are the kind of emotional and spiritual toll that it takes in diminishing the ability even to feel hope.
A kind of culture that has very, very low values, that is not able to elevate the best of us, that is slowly excluding many of the principles that are required if you're to even participate in visionary politics.
The idea that you might actually offer a real change.
Now, we've touched again and again upon the Ukraine conflict and I know that you have something to explain to us about Stoltenberg and in particular NATO's invasion of Ukraine and how we arrived at this point that is very much at odds with how we broadly experience reporting on this conflict.
Could you unpack that for us a little, Jimmy?
Well, all I can tell people is that whenever you listen to the government or the corporate media talk about the Ukraine war, they always start the story three quarters of the way in.
They never tell you the first three quarters of the story.
They never tell you about, put it this way, Let's say I was standing on a corner and a bus was coming and there was an old lady standing in the street and she was just about to get hit by the bus and I pushed her out of the way.
The corporate media would start the story, Jimmy Dore pushes old lady down on the sidewalk and that's where they would start that story.
And so that's where they start the Ukraine war story.
They don't tell you that there was a coup instituted by the CIA of Ukraine of their democratically elected government.
And the CIA funded and got in bed with right-wing Nazis to overthrow a democratically elected government in Ukraine.
And then when the Russian-speaking people who identify with Russian ethnically in the eastern part of Ukraine, called the Donbass, didn't want to go along with the couped government that the CIA set up with the Nazis, then they started shelling them and bombing those people.
So what did they have?
They had a peace agreement called the Minsk Accords.
They had two of those.
And guess who abided by it?
Russia abided by it.
So did the Donbass.
So did those people.
You know who didn't?
Ukraine and NATO.
They kept bombing them.
They killed something like 16,000 to 18,000 people since they passed the Minsk Accords.
And then they ramped up the bombing the month before the invasion to double.
They doubled the bombing.
So what they were doing was trying to get Putin to do that very thing, which was to invade Ukraine
to protect those people.
They don't tell you that there was already a war going on when Putin invaded Ukraine to protect the Donbass.
They leave all that out.
They leave out all that history.
They leave out that there already was a peace accord that everybody was following
except Ukraine and NATO in the West.
And they also leave out the point that there was already a peace agreement in March of 2022
that was going to be signed, and they had to send Boris Johnson to Ukraine
as the spokesperson for the West and NATO to kill that.
And I don't know what he said exactly to Zelensky, but I can tell you what the Nazis and the leader Nazis in Ukraine have already told Zelensky, that if he does a peace deal, that they will hang him from a tree in town square.
So that's what's going on with Zelensky.
He's a big money launderer.
He knows that if he tells the truth, he's a dead man.
So he's playing along.
But he's going to find out that as soon as the West is done with him and he's no longer useful, they will probably coup him and then kill him, just like they did with Gaddafi and everybody else.
And Saddam Hussein.
Everybody, they're always our friend until they're not anymore.
By the way, I just can't get over the fact that people still in the West call Putin a thug.
Meanwhile, the United States is occupying a country right next door to Ukraine, Syria, and we're occupying a third of that country.
Which third is that?
The part that has the oil.
And the President of the United States, Donald Trump, when he was asked, hey, why are you leaving troops in Syria?
He had a gaffe.
And what's a gaffe?
A gaffe is when you tell the truth.
He told the truth.
He said, the reason why I'm leaving those troops in Syria is for the oil.
It's our oil, and we're taking it.
And that's another reason why they had to get rid of Donald Trump, because he accidentally told the truth.
He's such a political novice.
He didn't realize that the President of the United States can't tell the truth about our foreign policy.
Which is that we use our military might to invade smaller, more powerless countries and steal their natural resources, which is exactly what our foreign policy has been for the last 50 years.
And he revealed it.
That's another reason why they had to criminalize him and get rid of him.
Things are, again, I'll just end every rant like this, but things are way worse than people think.
Why they were so afraid of the truckers, because they set an actual template for how to create change.
And how is that?
You have to shut down capitalism Temporarily to inflict pain on them so that they, now you have that power.
And they couldn't let people see that.
So that's why they had to call them white supremacists and to call them Nazis and say they were anti-science.
Everything was exactly the backwards.
The people who were against the truckers, the people who were against protesters, they're the ones being anti-science.
Today, today I saw an article that the Becerra, the head of the United States Human Health Services Department said that He got his vaccine because he doesn't want to infect his mother.
Now we all know that that's just a lie.
That's anti-science.
They're still saying that almost four years now into COVID.
They're still pushing that lie.
And why would they be pushing that lie?
It's because they want to sell more vaccines for the people who actually control the country, which is a handful of capitalists.
Whoa!
Jimmy, what you describe as the solution is immediate disobedience.
It's impossible, really, to contemplate how we've found ourselves in this situation until you look at how the narrative is controlled on a global level.
Here is a story about how Dr. Robert Epstein, capturing how Google manipulates elections, is a phrase that I'm going to use there somewhat carefully.
It says that Google influences about 25% of elections throughout the world, including those in the United States.
Over 70% of people in America get their news through Google and Facebook.
Google controls the lives, online at least, of more than 5 billion people worldwide.
Temporarily, I saw Jimmy Dore's world light up before being plunged once.
Hang on, I'm gonna get another light.
I'm losing my light from the window.
It's getting dark where I am.
Can I put another light over here?
There we go.
Oh yeah, that's even better.
Now you're angelic.
Now you're effulgent.
Jimmy Dore, newly effulgent, beautifully lit up.
It's plain that Google are able to at least direct narratives.
How else would it be that we would tolerate just a handful of the things that you've outlined?
Villainous politicians presented as heroes, corrupt corporations able to profit from crises,
energy companies that are able to benefit from an energy crisis and increase their profits
still while receiving subsidies, illegal wars carried out under the pretense of humanitarianism.
All of these things can only occur if information is controlled.
You've returned several times to the truckers precisely because they represent the opportunities that become apparent when people are willing to unite against a common cause.
As you say, when disobedience and disruption are presented, new possibilities occur.
If the system prohibits the possibility for democratic change, then of course organisation out of the system becomes absolutely necessary.
One of the defining moments in the trucker protests, as well as their characterization unfairly and libelously as Nazis, was when people that were funding that protest had their funds shut down and stopped when GoFundMe rediverted those donations.
What do you think is the likelihood that CBDCs, as well as new forms of identification and passports that perhaps could be inaugurated as health measures, will mean that ultimately each citizen finds themselves in a position where they can be financially controlled through digital currencies, that their movement can be controlled through passports initially issued as a health measure, What do you feel we ought to be doing when we're presenting these ideas as solutions in order to facilitate safety and convenience?
So I didn't realize until I saw a speech by Bobby Kennedy at a Bitcoin convention, I didn't understand Any about digital currency and how dangerous it is.
And so Bobby Kennedy talked about how we now live in a world where we can have any pointed to the truckers and how they turned off people's finances.
And he talked about how we now have latchkey totalitarianism.
And a good antidote to that is Bitcoin.
And then it made me realize why the establishment demonizes Bitcoin so much.
Because it's blockchain and they can't control it.
And they can't turn off Bitcoin like they can turn off the CBD.
So I went out and immediately I bought some Bitcoin, right?
We gotta do everything we can to fight back, and that's how they're gonna control us.
They control our wallets, they control our bank accounts.
What does that do?
So now, if I can't control my bank account, I can't pay my electric bill, I can't pay my internet bill, and that means that I can't be on this show with you.
I can't get my message out.
I can't travel around the country to do my shows and bring my message to people and have people come together.
I can't do any of that.
So they've disappeared me.
I remember I read books in high school about the establishment disappearing people and how they can do that.
Well, that's exactly what they're doing and they can do it digitally now.
And so that's the big scare.
People aren't awake to it.
You know, I had even people who are independents.
politically have no idea how important this is, that the digital currency is not your friend.
We need to hang on to paper money and we need to, I think we need to boost Bitcoin especially
and boost things that are not controlled by any kind of central bank or any kind of government
or a handful of capitalists. It's democracy in money, Bitcoin. And so I'm big on that now.
And I think most people need to get informed about that.
And if once people, so, because most people go, it's like you've heard people say, well, I don't care
if they read my emails or I don't care if they, I don't have anything to hide. I'm
I'm not committing any crimes.
Yeah, okay.
Wait till you actually get upset about something that the government or the establishment is doing.
That's when they turn anything you're doing into a crime.
And as we've seen, look how they turned Donald Trump.
Donald Trump says that the election was fraudulent.
Well, they spent the first four years previous to that saying that Russia had overthrown our country.
So it doesn't matter what you're doing.
If they want to say you're a criminal, they'll make you a criminal.
And if they have access to shutting down your finances, that's way easier for them.
So again, if they can't If they couldn't turn off your finances, if they couldn't censor you, if they couldn't demonetize you and have people... Look at the gray zone, right?
The gray zone does amazing, amazing investigative work that always is against the international security state.
And they expose all kinds of crimes of the security state in the Western world.
And what did they do?
GoFundMe took $95,000 away from them.
They were doing a fundraiser to hire Full-time, another full-time reporter.
And what did they do?
They demonetized them.
They wouldn't give them their money back that they actually raised.
So this is how they're controlling us.
And until it happens to them, I guess they won't understand it.
But if it happens to people that they watch, maybe, or if it happens to people that they like, maybe they'll start to wake up.
And you know, they would have done this to me.
A lot of people wanted me to run for president, right?
And this is before we knew Bobby Kennedy was running.
People wanted me to run because they wanted me to give a voice to these kind of concerns that I'm talking about.
And they like that I can speak to people on the left and the right, and I don't demonize my neighbor for the problems that the oligarchy is causing us.
And they wanted me to run.
And I told them exactly what would have happened to me Is the exact same thing they did to Julian Assange, the exact thing they did to you, they would have done to me and they would have taken down my channel.
So I knew all this and I knew I could be more effective right here doing this because they would have just disappeared me and people would have forgot about me and they would have discredited me.
And so I'm going to hang on as long as I can, telling the truth and trying to bring people together.
But what we really need is the people to embrace the truckers and people to embrace that form of protest, because that is the only thing that they will feel, and that's the only thing that can stop them, is if we shut down capitalism.
Not that I'm against people having businesses or making money, but we have to do it across the board.
And we have to put a hurt on them and it has to make them afraid.
Right now we have to dismantle the corporate media and we have to dismantle the coal list.
When they got rid of the campaign finance laws in the United States, which is what they did, now corporations can spend unlimited on elections and so they run the country outright now.
Before it used to be they used to have to bribe somebody under the table.
Just like the corporate news used to have to bring on somebody who would give you CIA talking points.
Now they just bring the guy on from the CIA as if he's the guy who's supposed to be telling you the truth.
They're supposed to be bringing on a guy telling you where the CIA guy is lying.
What they do is they bring on the CIA guy to tell you as if he's telling the truth.
And why?
Because of Donald Trump.
Everything gets filtered through the...
Prism of Donald Trump.
And if they can get you to hate Donald Trump, a guy who didn't want to be president in the first place, a guy who, by the way, the establishment loved for decades.
Everybody knew Donald Trump's name because they couldn't get his name out of their mouth.
He was a special guest on late night talk shows.
He was guest host on Saturday Night Live.
They gave him his own network television show for 10 years where people from Hollywood would come and bend their knee and call him Mr. Trump and they gave him Emmy nominations.
They all went to each other's weddings.
Their kids are all best friends.
They all played golf together.
They all went to Jeffrey Epstein's island together.
But somehow now they hate Donald Trump.
I wonder why?
Wow, Jimmy Dore.
What a fantastic Advocacy for revolution, for independent thought, for independent analysis, and as always, an incredible and inspiring way of just communicating.
Jimmy, just to spend a bit of time with you really lifts my spirit at a time where I plainly need it and I can't tell you how grateful I am.
to you for spending time on what looks like a vacation with me.
Now Jimmy Dore may not be running for president just yet, but he is throughout October appearing at a number of comedy theaters with his fantastic show.
You can go to jimmydore.com to see him in Indianapolis or in Houston, Dallas, Orlando, Boca Raton, San Diego, all over the place.
Have a little look on Jimmy's website to go and see Jimmy live.
If this is him when he's under surveillance, can you imagine Jimmy Dore when he is truly free?
Jimmy, thank you so much for joining us.
It means the world.
My pleasure.
Stay strong.
Thank you, Jimmy Dore, for not holding back and for urging mass disobedience and revolution.
Jimmy Dore's words, not mine.
That's all we've got time for on Stay Free Today.
But coming up this week, we've got Glenn Greenwald.
You know Glenn Greenwald.
Glenn of course broke the Snowden story and Glenn has been telling the truth ever since then.
We've got Dr Robert Epstein on the show talking about how Google apparently shifted six million votes to Biden.
I know we have to be incredibly cautious about how we say that.
And of course we've got Aaron Maté from Greyzone.
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