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June 27, 2023 - Stay Free - Russel Brand

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Did Trump REALLY Just Get EXPOSED?! Trump’s Audio LEAKED!! - #155 - Stay Free With Russell Brand

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	So, you know, I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm going to have to do it. I'm going
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	Hey, all right, you Awakening Wonders, thanks for joining us live on Rumble for our show Stay Free with Russell Brand.
	I'm here with Gareth Roy.
	We're going to go through the news stories of the day.
	Trump's leaked audio.
	Are his admissions incriminating?
	It does sound incriminating, like this noise of someone literally going through a box, like, oh, look at this secret.
	But I suppose this is the question we want to ask you.
	And do let us know in the comments, in the chat, what you think.
	Don't you sort of feel already that all politicians and particularly heads of state have access to highly sensitive material which they communicate about in private circles?
	It's not really the worst thing you can imagine someone in power doing and isn't it more significant that the confidential and classified information pertains to a potential war with Iran?
	Isn't that the real story rather than that Trump is rifling through them boxes Having a diet coke, not diet coke, full fat coke for Trump.
	It's funny, isn't it?
	Because basically this is about Trump, admittedly, you know, I guess you could say, illegally showing someone a classified document.
	But basically what he's saying is, you see, I told you I didn't want a war with Iran.
	And then the mainstream media going, ha ha, we've got you!
	Like, the war with Iran is surely the important thing.
	I don't know, what has more impact on you?
	Is it that powerful people have access to classified documents that they maybe sometimes do not stay within the letter of the law around?
	Or is it that there's this ongoing forever war perennial Armageddon plan that's amping up to wage war on Iran?
	And it's closing in on Hunter Biden by all accounts.
	It's getting harder and harder to believe that Joe Biden didn't know anything about his...
	About his business dealings.
	Also, what I think is really funny, and let me know what you think about this.
	If you're watching this on Rumble, join us in the chat on local.
	Some of you are saying, what's happened to Jack Dorsey?
	We're just delaying.
	We're doing Jack Dorsey on Monday, because we've decided on Friday, we are going to bring you exclusively, and just, I'm going to take my top off for this, RFK style.
	I'm taking my top off, because what we are going to bring you is me, Schellenberger, and Taibi.
	We're gonna be bringing down the censorship industrial complex on Friday and on Monday and we'll actually I think we're doing Jack Dorsey maybe on a Tuesday.
	I hope they're keeping their tops on.
	Who?
	Will they be willing to take off their top?
	They're willing to blow the lid on a whole lot of secrets but these little guys they want censored for Ever!
	You look like a shirtless Putin, it's been claimed over there.
	So hey, you guys, join us, press the red button, join us on Localsvizchat.
	Once we go exclusively onto Rumble, once we leave YouTube, we're going to be talking about RFK's now famous vaccine argument with Bill Maher.
	I've been on that Bill Maher show, I've been in that.
	You won't even look at me, will you?
	You won't even look at the little jelly tots, will you?
	One little bit of jelly tot and you go all crazy, don't you?
	So yeah, let's have a look at RFK and Hotez.
	Once we leave YouTube, we're going to be talking about RFK, who you know.
	Rumble is the only platform RFK trusts.
	We're going to be talking a little bit about his appearance on Bill Maher and the way that he will become mired in anti-vaxx rhetoric.
	The conversation between him and Dr. Peter Hotez goes on.
	Hotez says that Kennedy looks like a shirtless Putin.
	But I think he was just doing some push-ups and stuff, wasn't he?
	He's a lovely fella.
	That is essentially a dig about RFK's conspiracy theory about the war between Russia and Ukraine.
	That's what that is a reference to.
	Is RFK wanting an end to forever wars?
	I'm going to text RFK right now.
	You have it when I do this.
	I'm doing topless texting now.
	Wow, it's a new low.
	No, I'm going to text him and say, do you want to spot me?
	RFK, do you want to spot me?
	No, look, I think it's unfair to say you look like a shirtless Putin.
	You're better than... RFK!
	Hey baby, it's me, RB.
	We are longing, now that you are a Rumble fellow, and I should let you know that this is, we're broadcasting this live, just my half of the conversation.
	I've seen you with your top off, I've got my top off now.
	We would love to, I want us to work out together in a kind of Zuckerberg-Musk style showdown, but collaboratively, rather than in a combative form.
	We support you, we love you, we're glad you've joined us on Rumble.
	stay free, speak to you soon, RFK.
	That's it!
	Hang on.
	What?
	Hang on.
	Collaboratively, collaboratively, so what, just two men hugging each other with their
	tops off?
	Working out, pumping iron, just a couple of guys pumping iron together, what's wrong with
	that?
	Okay.
	Natural!
	That still doesn't seem collaborative.
	Collaborative is an interesting word that you just used for RFK there.
	Are you committed to text?
	Join us on Locals if you're watching this on Rumble.
	If you're watching this on YouTube we're going to flip over to being exclusively on Rumble when we cover the story about Bill, Ma and RFK.
	We've got Aaron Maté coming up talking about Ukraine pressuring the FBI to blacklist him and obviously we'll cover what remains of this coup story and how the coup has been used by the mainstream media and how extensive the mainstream media's involvement goes.
	But let's have a listen first of all to Trump's transgressions.
	It's really actually quite lovely.
	Have you heard this on the mainstream media yet?
	It's like... It couldn't sound more like someone going through secret documents.
	I mean, I shouldn't be doing this.
	Have you looked in there?
	Look at that.
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
	Have a listen.
	Well, with Millie... Let me see that.
	I'll show you an example.
	He said that I wanted to attack Iran.
	Isn't it amazing?
	I have a big pile of papers.
	This thing just came out.
	Look.
	This was him.
	They presented me this.
	This is off the record, but...
	This is off the record, that's the way covers go for his sense of material.
	But again, that's the sort of thing we anticipate Trump doing, and we expect that all leaders everywhere do.
	And when Trump does it, you just feel, well, this isn't an anomaly, this is in line with Trump behaviour.
	And isn't it more important that he's talking about plans for a war with Iran, which they claimed, oh, it was him that came up with... If this is what he gets sent down for, that would be mad, wouldn't it?
	Wouldn't it for revealing that he was being pressured into going to war with Iran?
	How dare you!
	How dare you reveal that we planned a war with Iran!
	It's like Julian Assange still in Belmarsh prison for revealing the war crimes of the Iraq war period.
	Like, what's more significant?
	The person revealing the information or the information itself?
	Our Lord.
	They presented me this.
	This was him.
	This was the Defense Department and him.
	This totally wins my case, you know.
	Except it is like highly confidential secret.
	Some people in the chat know Daganoku. I'm sickened by this information.
	I don't know if the information is what we're relaying, our point, or the actual...
	Maybe my top off.
	Ah, it could be that.
	There's a secret information.
	See, as president I could have did less, but now I can't, you know, but this is...
	Someone says, Russell, if you have to put a shirt on for today's show,
	please don't put that same shirt back on.
	I like this shirt.
	I know, I like the shirt.
	It's a nice little shirt.
	People are tipping me on locals like I'm a little lap dancer.
	Thanks, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	That's the money makers.
	Got them going.
	Pop them back away.
	Keep the lights on for a few more weeks.
	That's us.
	Keep us going.
	Keep us rocking along.
	So there you go.
	We're going to be looking at this obviously in more depth over the coming weeks, but the central point is this.
	I believe that the mainstream media and the neoliberal Democrat Party establishment are attacking Donald Trump on the wrong front.
	No one that loves Trump thinks it's particularly offensive that he's going through those classified documents.
	More important than that is the fact that these documents appear to reveal a plan to go to war with Iran.
	Elsewhere we talk about how there are already plans to amplify tensions between Israel and Israel and Iran.
	Existing tensions.
	So it seems to me to be that we are focusing on the wrong details when it comes to this story.
	But let us know in the chat and the comments what you reckon, guys.
	Let us know in the chat.
	If you're watching us on Rumble, give us a Rumble now.
	It really helps us.
	Rumble us.
	Why aren't you rumbling us?
	Give us a little Rumble.
	Press it and tell us what it does when you press it because we're curious about it.
	Hunter Biden's tax misconduct stuff is getting some coverage.
	One thing that's fascinating about this is that Joe Biden's ongoing defense is like, he's on drugs, the lad back then, he was on drugs.
	But when I was on drugs I didn't get a senior position at Burisma.
	No.
	But when are you smoking crack?
	It's not automatic that you get- Which is wrong, because we're on YouTube.
	Don't ever do it.
	Don't ever smoke crack.
	But when you do, what's still- you don't like- don't get- Hello, we are representatives of Burisma!
	You seem like the very kind of crackhead that we are looking to showcase!
	Doesn't happen.
	No, exactly.
	So it's the drugs that aren't the problem.
	Maybe- but is that the reason that he didn't pay his taxes?
	So he was fine when he was collecting the money.
	Here's the bank account details.
	Good, yeah, we'll fill that in.
	Brilliant.
	I've got a gun, you know.
	It's my gun.
	I will need those paid every month, just to make sure.
	Absolutely, of course.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Listen, we're still on YouTube, so let's keep it together.
	Have you seen the text message?
	This is great.
	You'll like this.
	All right, now, there's nepotism, and then there's literally threatening Chinese business folks with the presence of your father.
	I'm sitting here with my father, and we'd like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.
	Tell the director that I'd like to resolve this now before he gets out of hand, and now means tonight.
	I like this text message style.
	This isn't even Burisma.
	This is now a Chinese company.
	He's doing really well.
	Bloody hell, China!
	Maybe Hunter Biden is who we need to sweep into power.
	Right.
	Look at him.
	He's giving China what for.
	And tonight, Zed, if I get a call or text from anyone involved in this, other than you, he's giving China the, like, he's telling them where he's at, isn't he?
	Zhang, Order Chairman, I'll make certain that the man sitting next to me, and every person he knows, and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.
	I'm sitting here, waiting for the call with my father.
	That's three times in a text message.
	I don't think I've ever mentioned my dad multiple times in a text message, except if the text is to my dad.
	Yeah.
	Then at the beginning, alright, dad?
	C West Dam. Dad. Dad. Dad. That's it. I'm not saying it's not to Chinese officials.
	Nah man, that ain't right. Let's see if, how the White House are tackling those questions. Remember
	later on in the show we've got Aaron Maté coming up. He'll give us some home truths if he's, if
	the FBI haven't whacked him by then. We'll also be looking at the conversation between the great
	rumbler that is RFK. Oh no, it's just hit me. I'm regretting sending that message. It's just landing
	now. What was I doing? Naked collaboration. That sounds like I'm talking about shit.
	Of course it does!
	Oh, Gail!
	Why didn't you stop me?
	Don't do it again.
	I tried.
	I tried.
	One minute it's Elon, RFK, no wonder Jack Dorsey ain't on the show!
	Oh no.
	Alright, well let's have a look at Karine Jean-Pierre dealing with questions about Hannah Biden for a while.
	It goes on for a bit.
	Let's see how long we can retain our interest.
	Secondly, the President invited his son Hunter to the state dinner last night.
	I'm wondering if you could take us into the thinking and decision-making of why the President decided to invite him.
	I'm just not going to get into family discussion, personal family discussion.
	As you know, Hunter is his son.
	I'm just not going to get into that.
	Personal family discussion.
	That's the line.
	It's like as if you're about a wedding or something.
	Who's going to sit there?
	Who's going to sit there?
	That's nothing to do with this.
	This is a political arena.
	Because this is a political arena.
	He's using the political connections to leverage a deal.
	It seems like there's tax complications.
	Also, what these whistleblowers are alleging is that the Justice Department interfered with their investigation with the hope of them protecting Hunter Biden, basically.
	So they're saying that plea deal that he took last week Who's wrong?
	He's being protected.
	He should potentially be going to jail.
	These are all, like, legitimate things that should be asked about the President's son.
	And what about the Hunter Biden laptop story being kept out of the media during the... Hunter Biden?
	He's a nuisance.
	Like, every time his name comes up, he's in connection with a problem.
	I'm starting to like him more.
	If Hunter Biden wasn't the president's son, would he have invited someone who had just reached a plea agreement with federal prosecutors two days earlier?
	Well, a couple of things.
	Again, that's his son.
	He's a family member.
	It is not uncommon for family members to attend events at the White House.
	You could look at past presidents.
	I'm sure you have.
	So that is not uncommon.
	As it relates to anything related to Hunter, I'm just not going to respond to it from here.
	There's some corruption like the corruption of Trump going through those censored papers that is being heavily focused on by the media and there's other corruption like the events around this story that is considered just a family matter.
	What about Trump's boxes?
	Like he said he kept all of his golf stuff.
	All he had to say is there's a few photo albums in there.
	It would be regarded as a family matter.
	He wouldn't be able to discuss it in public.
	I just called in somebody.
	Go ahead.
	So Curly wouldn't answer James's question, though.
	Are you going to answer the question?
	Not a reasonable question to ask when the President of the United States was involved, as this message seems to suggest, in some sort of coercive conversation for business dealings by his son.
	Is that something, if he wasn't, then maybe you should tell us.
	So here's the thing, and I appreciate the question.
	I believe my colleague at the White House Counsel has answered this question already, has dealt with this, has made it very clear.
	I just don't have anything to share outside of what my colleagues have shared, and so I would refer you to him and the DOJ.
	Just not going to comment from here.
	It seems to me that the only person that can really be trusted to handle this is Joe Biden himself, who, as you know, is a competent, adept and brilliant public orator.
	When it's left to him to tackle this issue face first, head on, he will surely find the words and the language to rebut and undermine any allegation that there's nepotism and corruption going on.
	I mean, look at him in this speech.
	As Beth wrote, this is the best thing that's happened to rural America since the Rural Electrification Act brought electricity to farms in the 30s and 40s.
	and forties." End of quote.
	I think whoever put end of quote there, that's disruptive.
	He says stuff like that.
	It's interesting because I suppose what that indicates is he doesn't have the deductive ability to recognize the sentence end of quote as something that is exegesis, that oughtn't be read out.
	Ignore that.
	Okay, should we leave YouTube right now and get some free speech down our gullets?
	I mean, the first bit of free speech, let's see if RFK's got back.
	Of course he's not got back, he's trying to become a president.
	Of course he is.
	Last thing he needs is someone threatening to collaborate with him in the nude.
	We've got Aaron Maté coming up.
	We're going to be talking about that failed coup, the way that it's been presented.
	We're going to be talking about FBI blacklists.
	Also, we're going to be talking about the great rumbler that is RFK, who I just, of course, messaged.
	We're going to be talking about him and his chat with Bill Maher about vaccines.
	Let me know who made the best points in that debate according to you.
	You can do that by joining us on local if you're watching us on Rumble.
	Join us in locals, we're watching that chat now.
	FBI, maybe not FBI.
	Locals locals, he needs to stop talking about vaccine.
	Well, hello there, fair enough.
	Let's get into it.
	Okay, so see you later guys if you're watching us on YouTube.
	Get over to Rumble.
	Aaron Maté, RFK, and we're going to talk, you know, we're going to get right into the
	Bill Maher argument.
	You'll love it I reckon.
	See you in a couple of seconds.
	Shall we have a look at that clip then?
	I just remember that night we went there.
	We went on Bill Maher and we went round to his garden afterwards.
	Very impressive.
	It was really impressive.
	He's got a nightclub in his garden.
	Went into that.
	I feel that Bill Maher is less drunk and stoned in this conversation than he was in the conversation with me.
	Yeah, it got progressively more so.
	Also, I just want to make sure, it wasn't that we didn't go to a nightclub, like, this is a podcast, like, the way you just gave off was like we just went to Bill Maher's house and got into a nightclub.
	Whee!
	It's like a nightclub in his garden!
	It was actually, a bit.
	Like you've got neon in there.
	It's got neon and it's got things like... Bar!
	It's got a bar.
	Toilet.
	It's pretty cool.
	No, I love Bill Maher.
	This is not an attack on Bill Maher.
	So let's have a look at his conversation.
	And I suppose what Bill Maher is doing is letting RFK know that his entire campaign is going to be undermined by RFK's previous stance on vaccines, both pertaining to the pandemic and prior to that.
	Prevalent and ardent anti-vaccine campaign.
	Well, I mean, I suppose I'm doing the mainstream media's job there.
	He has questions about the efficacy of vaccines, particularly those taken in childhood, and the potential for side effects that have not been duly examined.
	Am I doing... that's basically RFK's position.
	Let's see what Bill Maher says here.
	The question for your campaign is... I'm not talking about this stuff on my campaign.
	I'm just talking between you and me.
	That's a ridiculous assumption.
	Of course you're going to have to talk about you.
	Well, if somebody asks me, I'm going to.
	They're all going to ask you!
	Are you serious?
	No, they don't want to hear it.
	This is all they're going to ask you about.
	What RFK could say is that vaccines are a family matter.
	It's just a simple family matter.
	It's interesting, isn't it?
	I suppose one of the things that defines our time are the shifting frameworks and criteria for Different people if you are an anti-establishment figure either from the left like RFK or from the right like Donald Trump Then you will be subject to examination and critiques that if you are a representative of the centralist state corporate state globalist
	You won't face that.
	That's always set as normal.
	That is ushered on through by the mainstream.
	When we saw Anderson Cooper earlier introducing the recorded material of Trump looking through those boxes, it was like it was Watergate.
	This is a great moment in American history.
	Really, it's... I don't know, man.
	We all basically know that everyone's corrupt.
	We all basically know that people look at those censored materials.
	I'm surprised by this stuff.
	Are you?
	Let us know in the chat.
	Your friends who want to help you?
	No, they don't want anything.
	They want to go to the most vulnerable point, which is your account, because you don't believe in vaccines.
	That's not me talking.
	I don't believe that, but that's what they want.
	But do you believe I don't believe in vaccines?
	I believe you are more… I just believe in science.
	Show me the science.
	Let's not talk about, again, the science.
	That's the mistake they made.
	I believe in science, too.
	Listen, Bill, here's what I mean.
	Let me just say this.
	what I mean. Let me just say this. Every medicine is required to do
	placebo-controlled trials. That's what science is.
	You give a group of people, a cohort of people, the medicine, and then you give a similarly situated cohort of people the placebo.
	And then you look at health outcomes over a four or five year period.
	Very reasonable points, don't you think?
	Well I guess what it's interesting is because what Bill Maher's pointing out is that this
	potentially could be your undoing because this if they if they want a play a bit like
	I suppose with Trump at the moment if they want a place to try and get you on it's going
	to be that recording and not with RFK they'll keep on going on about the vaccines ignoring
	all these other stances so that Peter Hotez can say that he's a Russian apologist or Putin
	apologist even though what he's campaigning on is ending the forever wars that his opinions
	on vaccines will kind of be his undoing and it reminds me of something that Matt Taibbi
	said at your event last week about Orwell and this idea of kind of binary thinking of
	that once RFK has got an opinion about something that's been deemed misinformation or disinformation
	he is then he's gone.
	He's out of the equation.
	He can't be considered trustworthy in any other way.
	And that's the kind of political landscape that we're operating in now.
	I think that's the objective of the censorship industrial complex to establish criteria by which people can be nixed annexed and removed from the conversation. Once you've
	established that it's possible to do that. And that's what happened around some of the
	civil rights movements of a few years ago, which I think had very legitimate aims around
	the way people are treated in the workplace and racism. Good ideals were used to
	establish a template of censorship, cancellation, shutting people down. And it's interesting
	because a lot of the people that cropped up in that space, like Weinstein and Jordan
	Peterson said, these movements, they're coming out of academia will ultimately be used to...
	Censor people.
	And the thing is, actually, Gal, I have an alternative take, because when I see RFK in this environment, able to freely discuss with an establishment figure like Bill Maher, you know, he's an HBO host, it makes me feel like it's going to be impossible to shut this conversation down.
	Now that he's running for office, there is a different type of legitimacy to what he's saying.
	And the same way loads of us don't care that Trump is looking through boxes of sensitive
	information, in fact care more that it reveals that there was plans to attack Iran, loads
	of us just won't care that RFK is being smeared.
	And loads of us have doubts about the way that the pandemic was handled, the way that
	lockdowns were established.
	As a result, it appears of a political agenda rather than a scientific one.
	The fact that it's been revealed that even social distancing was arbitrary.
	Because of media like this, because of platforms like Rumble, the truth is you are able to
	gain access to a wide variety of information.
	Of course some of it will be nonsense and claptrap and pontificating and perhaps we're
	responsible for some of that sometimes because we're trying to have a laugh and we're trying
	to exist on the edge lands.
	But the truth is also that you will get to hear stuff that you recognise as being true
	because it resonates.
	You understand it, don't you?
	You go, yeah, I knew that's what was going on.
	The whole subsequent revelation around the handling of the pandemic era, the reason it sticks is because it makes sense.
	Wait a minute, that came out of a laboratory in Wuhan where there was potentially experimentation that was funded by American pharmaceutical interests.
	That sounds like the sort of thing.
	And then they shut that down and didn't cover it because they knew that would make them culpable.
	That sounds like the sort of thing.
	They locked people down because they had a template that was applicable to other diseases, specifically influenza, and probably were biased in the direction of regulation and control because governments like to regulate and control.
	And that's become increasingly difficult in a more diffuse and broken down environment.
	All of the things that you intuit are true.
	And so it takes someone like RFK, who I now now regret sending that message to, to become a kind of a
	lightning rod for those kind of arguments in the same way Trump was.
	They're trying to bring down Trump using arguments that Trump has already proven that he's invincible
	with regard to those arguments.
	Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.
	And I think one of the points that was made last week at that event is that the rise in independent media is facilitating these kind of more nuanced discussions and for someone like RFK not to be shut out of this completely.
	Because that, I think it was RFK himself, didn't he say that this will be the first election won on podcasts, you know, and hence he is going.
	I think it was RFK who said that recently.
	And I think that's a really valid point to make in terms of what you're saying about
	this, the truth kind of will emerge and these discussions will be had, there's an appetite
	for it, but it's only because of the opportunities afforded through independent media now that
	this is allowed to happen.
	Because of course it was famously and often said of Trump that he governed through Twitter,
	that he was able to bypass the media and have the relationship he had with the media, the
	condemnatory and critical relationship he had, coining the phrase fake news, it's amazing
	that he did that, because he had access to the electorate, to you, the people, through
	Twitter.
	So of course that had to be shut down and controlled.
	And subsequently people said, hold on a minute, a private company shouldn't have the right
	to deny a president access just because they disagree with him.
	You know where we stand on Trump, loads of you love him.
	But now I think what Gareth's saying and what we cite in RFK there is new media is dangerous
	because you can't control it in the same way, precisely because it is diffuse.
	Even a big organisation like the Daily Wire isn't a big organisation like a Rupert Murdoch company, or a big organisation like MSNBC or CNN or Fox.
	companies that are ultimately owned by powerful conglomerates, that are
	significantly owned by BlackRock or Vanguard, that have long established
	relationships with the state. And of course the Twitter files, you know, in
	large part revealed by a Taibbi and Schellenberger, demonstrated how much
	time, effort, money the state have spent infiltrating those social media
	platforms in order to censor sometimes true information in order to control the
	narrative. But now we're seeing the rise of platforms like Rumble and the
	acquisition of Twitter by Elon Musk which interrupts that trajectory. So if
	you add to that a figure like RFK or the interest of someone like
	Donald Trump is maintained, you can see disruption at the center. That's why I
	think we're hopefully participating in that. And then you get, as is happening at the moment, the EU
	essentially saying they'll shut down Twitter if Elon Musk doesn't comply
	with their regulations.
	We've got a great story later this week on that point.
	Is Elon Musk's real fight against Mark Zuckerberg or is Elon Musk's real fight against censorship?
	Let me know in the chat right now.
	Press the red button and join us in Locals.
	This Friday we've got such a special show coming up.
	It's a censorship industrial complex special.
	Make a graphic for that bad graphics, Jack.
	Censorship Industrial Complex special where me, Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger take live questions from an audience.
	Schellenberger explains what the Censorship Industrial Complex is.
	Taibbi lets you know some of the NGOs that participate in it.
	Excuse me.
	Stella Assange.
	Sorry about that, mate.
	Sorry about that.
	I've taken my top off.
	I've burped.
	You shouldn't have to put up with this.
	You shouldn't have to put up with this.
	It's not the worst that's happened.
	That's what it'd be like working with Hunter Biden, I think.
	I mean, he's off his head all of a sudden.
	The top's off.
	And I feel sympathy for Hunter Biden, as a matter of fact.
	It's going to be a great show on Friday.
	You do not want to miss it.
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	where free speech means you get freach.
	I'm still not used to that graphic.
	It's too professional.
	Do you feel nervous?
	I certainly feel like I'm on a different show.
	Oh God, I'm nervous.
	Hang on, what's happening?
	Where's my lapel, Mike?
	Oh no!
	We had Jeffrey Sachs on the show yesterday, one of the great authorities on the... I would say we're both on the pandemic.
	His views on that were exciting and interesting to listen to, but he's always intriguing and erudite on the subject of the war.
	We've put that Jeffrey Sachs interview up independently.
	If you've missed it, you should see it.
	It's a real education.
	Here's some of your comments.
	Well, if we were in charge, it would be.
	We'd, like, mandate that.
	Well, I'm not sure you'd mandate, Ross.
	I think that's the opposite.
	That's wrong.
	No, we're not a dictatorship.
	Oh, no, we just say if you want to watch it, you can.
	And if you don't... And if people didn't watch it, well, we'd say that they caused the pandemic.
	Why didn't you watch Jeffrey Sachs?
	He caused a pandemic.
	That's right.
	Take these tablets.
	They'll be good for you.
	Have you done any tests?
	Didn't have time.
	Stand 10 foot apart from people.
	Why?
	Dunno.
	Just feel like it.
	Get locked in your house.
	Why?
	Better for us if you're locked in your house.
	Yeah.
	You're making it up.
	You're governing by guesswork.
	Jay Batch.
	It's nice to hear Sachs' anger.
	It's about time.
	The tide feels like it's turning.
	Does it?
	Tides turn, they go in and out, don't they?
	Nah, you've not understood the ocean there, mate.
	Kay Amos, thank you. This dude rocks.
	Brilliant truth seeker and speaker.
	Jeffrey Sachs has a bad gas, badass energy.
	I'm glad it's not bad gas.
	Badass gas!
	Jeffrey Sachs has badass gas!
	Why don't we get McDonald's straws, get a North Stream pipeline of McDonald's straws, one up the snout, one all the way down to his ass.
	Far down that.
	Then the Ukrainian Navy SEALs come in, they break that and say Putin's done that.
	Putin's broke that McDonald's straw pipeline.
	Why don't they?
	Good point.
	That's not what she says.
	Griselda666, number of the beast.
	Oh yeah, he has badass energy.
	I love it.
	Thanks for your work, sir.
	I can feel his heavy heart, says Raven33.
	He needs a hug.
	Yeah, okay.
	Where do I sign up for Gut Bucket, says Tamara Spencer.
	What is Gut Bucket?
	I beg your pardon?
	Why are you including that, Jamie?
	I know Russell had his top off, but I think that's a little below the belt.
	I'm shredding, baby!
	I think that's too much.
	I'm shredding!
	I'm shredding!
	Virtual Goose, please get Rand Paul on.
	He's a very smart guy.
	Game on!
	We want him on.
	Please come on.
	I'll fucking message him.
	Oh, God.
	Last night, Rubio verified additional UFO whistleblowers.
	Correct.
	Yeah!
	Yeah, he did.
	Did he?
	Did he?
	Did he verify that?
	Yes, he did.
	What about the ones under the ocean?
	We can make a video on that.
	What about that psychedelic conference?
	Do you want Roger Waters on the show out of Pink Floyd?
	Let's get him on!
	Get him on, James!
	Oh, we haven't got a camera on him.
	Can we go to the gallery cam?
	James is like Phil.
	Will you move out of the way so we can see James?
	That's James.
	He's guest booking.
	You can email him directly.
	I won't dox him, but he's in charge of guests, isn't he?
	Yes.
	Gotta get him.
	He's very good at it.
	He's doing a good job, because later... Oh, we've got some... When are we announcing our world-changing exclusive?
	Not yet.
	We'll wait till we get that message back.
	We've got a life-changing exclusive.
	They'll just see what that message is.
	Leave them wanting more, Russ!
	Leave them wanting more, innit?
	Leave them wanting more!
	Okay, is it time?
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	Press the red button, join us on Locals.
	It's a beautiful community.
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	Can you believe it?
	It's disgusting, in a way.
	We've got a fantastic presentation for you now.
	That military coup.
	Were NATO involved?
	How come that crazy mercenary dude gave a shout-out to NATO?
	Also, are the mainstream media reporting on it in a way that's favourable in order to avoid talking about the failure of the Ukrainian counter-offensive where a thousand people a day are dying in order to perpetuate a war that we think primarily benefits imperialist and economic interests?
	Here's the news?
	No!
	Here's the F in you, Sonny Jim!
	Here's the fucking news!
	Coo!
	Coo!
	What does it do?
	It cheers up NATO and it distracts you!
	There's been a coup, but what kind of coup was it?
	Who benefits from this coup?
	Who is Prygosian?
	Another new word we've got to learn now.
	And what's really behind this story?
	Is it to do with the failing Ukrainian counteroffensive?
	The squandered Ukrainian lives that benefit the American imperialist interests currently playing out?
	I don't know.
	But by the end of this video, we'll be a lot closer to the truth together.
	Let's have a look at how the mainstream media are peddling this new set of NATO-benefiting narratives.
	Breaking news.
	A Russian mercenary chief with thousands of troops ordering an armed rebellion and march on Moscow, only to abruptly call it off.
	Yevgeny Prigozhin of the Wagner Group saying he halted the march to avoid shedding Russian blood.
	Do you know what a war is?
	It's weird, isn't it, that he's a Russian mercenary as well, that works for a private branch of the Russian military.
	It's not Mother Teresa, is it?
	It's not Princess Diana, not Nelson Mandela.
	He's a Russian mercenary!
	An extraordinary day of events and chaos.
	This dramatic video circulating online.
	Earlier today, an angry Vladimir Putin vowing to crush the rebellion.
	This is children's news.
	When I was a kid, there used to be a show called Newsround.
	It was news for children, but now actual news is like news for children.
	Putin is angry because someone tried to do a coup at him.
	Poo on that coup.
	Now it's Big Bird with the weather.
	Oh, there's water coming from the sky!
	We're adults!
	In a televised address to the nation, calling it treason and a stab in the back.
	Like, the first one, that's actually a legalistic term.
	Second one, it's emotional rhetoric, innit?
	Firstly, you are here for the crime of treason.
	Plus, you are no longer my best friend.
	Make up, make up.
	You bet we break up!
	The high-tension turn of events culminated today with those rebel forces marching toward Moscow.
	At this stage of the war, can we at least agree on the pronunciation of Moscow?
	Toward Moscow.
	But over the past few hours, the mercenary leader, Yevgeny Prigoshin, He looks pretty badass.
	I don't think he's going to be any better.
	You know like when sort of a coup gets backed by Western interests and there's some sort of insurgency that we stir in a sovereign nation of some kind.
	You sort of think, who's this guy you're backing?
	We did it, Britain, with like Pinochet.
	He was a right bastard.
	Announced his troops will turn around after reaching a deal with the leader of Belarus to seek shelter there.
	In turn, the Russian government promised it would drop all criminal charges against him and his fighters will not be prosecuted.
	What led Pragoshin to launch this coup?
	First, it's evident that these escalating conflicts with the Russian state and military apparatus came to a head.
	The coup attempt was preceded by Prigoshin's vitriolic denunciations of the Russian Defense Minister, whom he accused of not waging the war aggressively enough.
	He's got an angle on this war, doesn't he, this geezer?
	This war?
	Yes, this terrible war?
	No, this war, not aggressive enough.
	Nyeet!
	Imagine being his son.
	Did you enjoy sports day, Dad?
	Nyeet!
	Do you like this drawing, Dad?
	It's of a bomb.
	Nyeet!
	It's been reported that funding for Wagner has to be substantially cut.
	I'm not telling him.
	We're cutting the funding for Wagner.
	Nyeet!
	Earlier this month, Prigoshin refused to accept Putin's demands that Wagner be placed under the control of army leadership.
	So he's a pretty serious badass, this geezer.
	Putin tells him we're taking control of that.
	There is, after all, a great big war going on.
	He says nyeet.
	What I'm interested in is whether or not NATO are involved with or benefit from this and how the media will use it, particularly contrasted with the terrible, egregious bloodbath that is the Ukrainian counter-offensive, which the media have been telling us for some time was going to be when the dynamics of the war all erred, everyone was going to be okay and we'd all be home for Christmas, the way that wars have been reported on since there've been global wars, really.
	There is evidence that the military was fed up with Putin's long-time patronage of Prygoshin.
	His operations in Ukraine, while useful to a limited extent, also interfered with the professional conduct of the war by trained officers.
	Prygoshin, one can safely surmise, attempted the coup in order to preempt actions against him.
	Okay, so it was a preemptive strike.
	It's not like Prygoshin's an idealist.
	We have to end this war.
	He's an idealist who says, we have to make this war more aggressive.
	Dad, I got a swimming certificate at school today!
	Nyet!
	Second, it will be the height of political cluelessness to believe that NATO has been a passive bystander in the events of the last 24 to 36 hours.
	Okay, so let's see how much political cluelessness there will be in the mainstream reporting of this event.
	It has certainly been following the escalating war of words between Prygoshin and the Russian military with extreme care, and it can be assumed that it made contact with him.
	There is no other credible explanation for the pro-NATO justification made by Prygoshin upon launching the coup.
	No, there can't be.
	This dude, who's got his own private army, who thinks the war isn't aggressive enough, in spite of all the death and bloodshed and horror, if he sort of goes, and also, props to NATO, big shout out to NATO, just for the great work you're doing impeding on Russian borders.
	Presumably, some kind of communication has taken place.
	Let me know in the comments what you think.
	Prygoshin's NATO contacts would have had good reason to demand that he act now.
	The coup has been launched less than three weeks into the NATO-backed counter-offensive by Ukraine, having cost tens of billions of dollars to prepare.
	Your money.
	It has so far proven to be a debacle, with thousands of Ukrainian soldiers dying each day.
	That's Ukrainian human beings.
	And only a few villages seized.
	It's gotten to the point where the US media describes as a massive triumph the ability of Ukrainian forces to capture and hold for a few hours a tiny, nondescript village.
	The main news again, we've got this village.
	Can you describe it?
	No!
	In just over two weeks, NATO will be holding a major summit in Vilnius, that's in Lithuania, that until the coup attempt threatened to be dominated by Ukraine's military debacle.
	So there was about to be a conference where everyone would go, hey, what about all that stuff you told us?
	What about all those taxpayer dollars?
	Now it's like, check out this guy!
	He's a badass, isn't he?
	The Biden administration and its NATO allies calculated that a coup attempt, even if not successful, would destabilize the regime and undermine its military operations.
	In any case, the coup attempt has shifted the media narrative away from the failed Ukrainian counteroffensive to the failing Putin regime.
	Let me know if you think things like that are engineered, utilized, they're just optimized after they happen.
	How do you think these things play out?
	Let me know in the comments.
	The immediate response of high-level representatives of U.S.
	imperialism, the Zelensky regime, and the pro-NATO opposition within the Russian oligarchy makes clear that the coup did not come as a surprise.
	U.S.
	Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman, who has been a key figure in the U.S.
	preparations for war against Russia for over a decade, What?
	They've been preparing for it for over a decade?
	Well, that's not what we've been told, is it?
	Okay, it's a war against Russia.
	How do you know?
	Well, ten years ago, we started preparing for one, and here it is.
	Merry Christmas.
	Tweeted on Friday evening, for all of those that have been wondering how the war in Ukraine is going, it's going insurrection in Russia well.
	They use that word insurrection pretty glibly, and that's not a good catchphrase.
	This chicken, it's...
	Insurrection in Russia, looking good.
	Also, it didn't stay insurrection in Russia well for that long, did it?
	Like, a day.
	Later into the coup, he suggested that NATO use the opportunity to extend its air defences 100 miles into Ukraine.
	Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy Hello Vladimir.
	Also expressed support for Pugashin's coup attempt.
	Pugashin's coup attempt exposes above all the bankruptcy of the Putin regime itself,
	out of which Pugashin himself emerged.
	He is a Frankenstein monster created by Putin and over whom the Russian president lost control.
	And at some point, presumably if this coup is successful or if it's, you know, the first of a few coups,
	we will see our media trying to frame him as some brilliant new alternative.
	Like when Boris Yeltsin was in charge, he was like some cuddly, shaven Father Christmas.
	Until we all learned he was a drunk nutcase.
	All of these figures ultimately operate within the same communal space, have the same interests, have the same allies.
	No one's going to emerge out of a mercenary army and like go, our priority is the children, are they?
	It's like going to be some other bastard.
	For decades, Putin and Prygoshin were close allies.
	Until recently, the Wagner Group, which originated within the Russian Military Intelligence, GRU, enjoyed the evident patronage of Putin and other powerful forces within the state apparatus.
	Prygoshin, a fascistic warlord, billionaire, and convicted criminal, and now please welcome our new ally!
	A fascistic warlord and billionaire convicted criminal!
	Should we be clapping this?
	Yeah, keep clapping.
	It's NATO approved.
	Represents a substantial faction of the Russian oligarchy that opposes the war
	solely because Putin's effort to protect the capitalist classes and states'
	privileged access to the country's vast resources has cost them dearly.
	Putin has sought to balance between these factions and this attempt to reconcile
	opposing oligarchic interests has determined the conduct of what he still calls
	a special military operation.
	From the beginning, the Kremlin's policy in Ukraine has been based on the hope that limited military pressure could persuade the Western imperialist powers to accept the legitimate security interests of the Russian capitalist regime.
	Putin has persisted with this aim even as all of his red lines have been crossed, the latest red line being the attempt to overthrow him.
	How Poon responds remains to be seen, whether through a military escalation or with significant concessions to reach some sort of accommodation.
	The imperialist powers, however, are not interested in compromise.
	Their ultimate goal is the carve-up of Russia, so as to bring the vast resources of the entire former Soviet Union under their direct control.
	That's a pretty heavy aim, isn't it?
	That sounds a lot different from, we must help and protect Ukrainian people from these criminal aggressors.
	And again, I'm not disputing criminal aggressors, but I am disputing humanitarian, just because I don't think Since the Second World War, has been anything like that has happened.
	Do you?
	Ultimately, both Putin and Prigoshin represent the same social class and oligarchy steeped in criminality and hatred of the working class.
	So basically the same as American democracy then.
	Which one of these total bastards shall it be?
	The interests of the Russian and Ukrainian oligarchies preclude any progressive form of defence of the interests of the mass of the working people against the predatory policies of imperialism.
	The war in Ukraine must be stopped through the independent revolutionary mobilisation of the international working class, not the NATO-backed overthrow of the Putin regime and a carve-up of Russia.
	In a sense it's one of those stories that shows you how far off the mark we are, potentially making a media darling for a moment of just another mercenary oligarchical figure, simply in order to pursue the mercenary oligarchical interests of US imperialism, while maintaining it's a humanitarian effort, which of course Ukraine are willing to believe, because currently at least it backs their interests.
	But in the post-war carve-up of Ukraine and Russia, depending on how the war goes, we will see who truly benefits.
	And I don't think it's going to look that humanitarian when BlackRock come marching in, carve up that country, whichever one of those countries it is, either, both, neither, I don't know, and turn them into technological dystopias that can be cannibalised by the elite interests that currently are fighting to gain centralised control of all of our lives.
	But that's just what I think.
	Let me know what you think in the comments.
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	SMP2K on.
	I assume this segment is pre-recorded so Rusty can read chat.
	Or did I miss him changing his shirt?
	We'd re-record it and make it better, don't we really?
	Yeah.
	So make it good.
	Damn it, Janet.
	Says someone else.
	He ain't so bad.
	They're talking about Putin.
	He is bad, I think.
	Everything wrong with Putin.
	Maybe he's talking about Pregotion.
	Oh, right.
	Pregotion, though, he came across pretty bad.
	Billionaire, criminal, warmonger.
	Apologetic pest.
	Everything wrong with Putin is wrong with every politician.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Gonna eat lunch, says Jack Swiss.
	Too much anger churned and triggered for me and others.
	Blessings to the community.
	There you go.
	Do you know what?
	We're gonna raise the quality of this show exponentially in a moment because we've got fantastic, bold and brave journalists.
	journalist on the show. I had the privilege recently of appearing with
	Michael Schellenberger and Matt Taibbi in a live event to bring attention to
	and make a movement to oppose the censorship industrial complex. Another
	journalist that I rank alongside them is our guest on the show now. In the old
	days Aaron Maté would have been played by Dustin Hoffman in a hagiography in a
	film that focused on the integrity and bravery of journalists.
	He's worked at the Grey Zone, he's the co-host of Useful Idiots podcast, and according to the Guardian, a British legacy newspaper, he is a prolific spreader of disinformation.
	We can only assume then he is at odds with the mainstream.
	It's Aaron Maté.
	Alright Aaron, how are you?
	I'm good, Russell.
	That line from the Guardian is my highest honour.
	There can be no greater gong than the disdain of the Guardian.
	You're on a blacklist.
	The Ukrainian Security Service want the FBI to put you on a blacklist.
	Why?
	Why, Aaron, when you've got such lovely brown eyes?
	Yeah, this came out recently in the Twitter files.
	The FBI, acting on behalf of its counterparts in Ukraine, asked Twitter to censor a whole list of accounts and also hand over their information to Ukraine, to Ukrainian intelligence.
	And my name was on that list.
	I was among the people that Ukraine wanted to be removed and wanted to get my information.
	And Twitter said no because they pointed out that It wouldn't be such a good look if, you know, we're censoring Western journalists.
	And the FBI said, OK, but it's just weird that it was Twitter that had to tell the FBI that maybe you shouldn't be censoring journalists, period, especially on behalf of a foreign government.
	As to why Ukraine would want to do that, I don't know.
	I just like to spread factual information about this proxy war and how it could have been avoided.
	There were all these chances at diplomacy before the war and after the war.
	They've all been sabotaged by the West.
	I don't think it's good to use Ukraine and sacrifice its people for a geostrategic goal of bleeding Russia.
	I don't see how that's in anybody's interest but US warmongers.
	And because I say stuff like that, they wanted me censored.
	Here is the email just to show that Aaron's not lying, that this isn't disinformation, it's an evident truth that we can demonstrate there.
	I had a conversation recently with someone that said that there's a kind of form of Occidental imperialism in the assumption that Ukraine aren't able to decide for themselves what the best response to a criminal Russian invasion Is that Ukraine is an independent nation and it's somehow patronizing to assume that the narratives of those of us that live in anglophonic countries supersede their own long-standing tensions with Russia.
	How do you reconcile the fact that Ukraine do have their own intentions with what appears to be the observable fact that this is somehow beneficial to NATO and the military-industrial complex?
	Well, a few things.
	Ukraine, of course, has the right to resist an invasion, but that doesn't necessarily obligate us to fuel the war with our military aid and intelligence support, which is what the U.S.
	is doing.
	Ukraine could not fight this war without U.S.
	support.
	And that's why Lindsey Graham said, the senator from South Carolina, said that as long as we aid Ukraine, they will fight to the last person.
	I don't see how it's aiding Ukraine to use them to fight to the last person.
	I want Ukrainians to live.
	So, yes, Ukraine has the right to resist an invasion, but it doesn't necessarily obligate us to fuel the war, especially when, and this is a key point, there are diplomatic alternatives.
	This war could have been avoided, and it could have been stopped after it began.
	Before the war, there were the Minsk Accords, which Ukraine's far-right and the bipartisan U.S.
	establishment bitterly opposed because that would have ended the war and the Donbass that began.
	After the 2014 U.S.-backed coup, Russia put out proposals in December 2021 that at minimum should have been discussed trying to address Russia's security concerns about the expansion of NATO and the, you know, placement of NATO infrastructure surrounding Russia, including inside Ukraine.
	And the U.S.
	and NATO refused to even basically discuss it.
	So that was a mistake.
	And that was a case where diplomacy could have possibly averted all this.
	And then after the war, we now have so many sources, NATO sources, Ukrainian sources, Vladimir Putin himself saying that a deal was reached in April 2022, but that Boris Johnson, with presumed U.S.
	backing, came over and blocked it.
	So yes, in principle, of course, a country has the right to resist a foreign invader.
	But when there are reasonable alternatives to avoiding it, those at least need to be explored and not blindly fueling this disastrous war, especially when it's pitting the world's top two nuclear powers against each other.
	And one more thing about Ukrainian agency.
	It depends which Ukraine we're talking about, because Zelensky himself was elected on a peace mandate in 2019.
	He was going to end the war in the Donbass.
	He was going to make peace with the rebels and with Russia.
	He couldn't, because Ukraine's far-right blocked him.
	They protested violently whenever he took steps towards implementing the Minsk Accords, and some people even threatened to kill him.
	So, this far-right leader named Dmitry Yarosh said that if Zelensky makes peace with Russia, he won't lose his popularity.
	He will lose his life.
	He will hang from a tree.
	So, when people say we need to respect Ukrainian agency, which Ukrainian agency are they talking about?
	The agency that elected Zelensky on a peace mandate?
	Or the agency of the far-right fascists who threatened to kill him if he implemented peace?
	Of course, it's reductive to suggest that there is one Ukraine with a singular objective.
	That's a good point, thanks for explaining that.
	Arshela says in our chat here that this is an example of neoliberalism by proxy, corporate control and global oligarchy, neocolonialism, she corrects. Now this Ukrainian
	counteroffensive, which many people said was going to change the timbre of the war, has
	gone appallingly badly and some suggest that the much-covered coup approach in Moscow,
	that sort of seems to have amounted to very little, was covered so favorably and extensively
	precisely because it's a distraction.
	It was interesting, wasn't it, that NATO got a shout out when our man Pragoshin was outlining
	his objectives. You didn't initially offer us a take on this, Aaron. Will you offer us
	one now, mate? Well, look, Pragoshin's hard to read and there's so many theories about
	Some people say he was working with Western intelligence, and there was Pentagon leaks not too long ago saying that Prigozhin had offered Ukraine the coordinates of Russian military positions.
	He basically had betrayed his own side.
	Now, I found that hard to believe, because I don't think Ukraine needs to know where Russian forces are, because the U.S.
	tells them that.
	Look, anything is possible.
	I don't know exactly Purgosian's alliances.
	On the surface, this could just be what it appears to be, which is that his group, Wagner, was facing a deadline to be incorporated into the Russian military.
	Accordingly, Purgosian was going to be sidelined, and this was his way of rebelling against that.
	Simple as that.
	I don't know beyond that, but what I do know is that this was not the coup against Putin
	that it was portrayed to be in Western media.
	So within a few hours of Purgosian launching this revolt, all these neocon pundits who've
	gotten everything wrong for the last 20 years from the Iraq war to today, and Al-Babam,
	Michael McFaul, all these people were all saying there's going to be a civil war in
	Russia, Putin is done, he might even already have fled Moscow.
	And of course that didn't happen.
	It took about 24 hours and this thing was done.
	And the fact that this was not a threat to Putin can be I think best seen in the fact
	that you didn't have a single person switching sides and pledging allegiance to Purgosian.
	He had a few thousand of his own forces with him.
	But aside from that, I can't find a single senior Russian official who said that, you know, I'm joining with Purgosian and I'm on his side now.
	So that to me is a reflection that this actually strengthened Putin, although it embarrassed
	him and it made it did make him look weak.
	But ultimately he leaves this, I think, emboldened because now Purgosian's in exile in Belarus
	and his militia, Wagner, will be implemented into Russia's forces.
	So the fact that there was this desperate rush to sign Putin's death warrant before
	even the developments could unfold speaks to, I think, first of all, the clamor for
	regime change in Russia that drives NATO policy in Ukraine, and also a reflection, as you
	mentioned, that this Ukrainian counteroffensive, which was supposed to turn the tide, is not
	going very well.
	Understandably because Russia's always had the advantage and this was only a matter of time before Ukraine would run out of material and also people to sacrifice.
	All these young people being sent off to die in this useless war that could have been prevented and could still be avoided now.
	So I was not surprised to see this hype in Western media because they need anything they can to distract from how badly this counteroffensive is going.
	In our chat, Bandi Boyan says, RFK Jr.
	says he will free Assange on the first day.
	We had a censorship industrial complex event with Schellenberger and Taibbi the other day in London where the significance of opposing the current agenda, global, legislative, it's been set up in several countries simultaneously, new censorship laws that will prevent free speech such as that which we are literally, I think right now, Enjoying.
	How do you feel about that movement?
	What do you feel the emergence of a figure like RFK means from somewhat from within the Democrat party establishment, although he's sort of peripheral status is assured by some of his well established views on, for example, vaccines.
	Do you think that this is a significant shift?
	Do you think it will alter the conversation?
	And if you'll forgive the pun, do you think it will move the needle?
	I love what RFK Jr.
	says about the Ukraine proxy war.
	He's got a lot of courage and clarity there.
	I hate what he says about Israel-Palestine.
	To me, he parrots anti-Palestinian talking points, and I just think for a progressive, there's just no room for that anymore.
	You just can't support the Israeli government and its occupation of Palestinians and call yourself a progressive.
	I appreciate that he has changed the conversation on some of these key issues such as Ukraine and the fact that even before the primaries is underway he's already polling really well.
	That to me speaks with the deep frustration even inside the Democratic Party with the current government, this Biden government that's overseen this disastrous proxy war in Ukraine and has meanwhile neglected people at home.
	So although I don't agree with RFK Jr.
	and everything I appreciate that he's there and I'm also excited that Cornel West Who's, I think, a progressive much more in line with my values is in the race as well.
	And Marianne Williamson is also launching a challenge.
	So I hope that all these voices get the chance to be heard because clearly their presence in the primary reflects growing dissension and growing frustration with this current government.
	And as for censorship, the movement to me has to center on Julian Assange, the most important journalist in the world.
	He's being tortured, persecuted for his courage and bravery.
	The U.S.
	is trying to Not only bring him over to the U.S.
	for prosecution and imprisonment, but I think they want to kill him.
	And so I think we have to start, as you've been doing so effectively, Russell, with championing Julian Assange.
	Thanks, mate.
	Over in our chat, someone says, Cornell, U.S.
	and now, whose avatar is a John Deere tractor, and I dig the John Deere.
	Cornell West is getting zilch, says U.S.
	and now.
	I'm really interested to hear, Aaron, What you feel about the current story about the Trump audio there, what our take on it is, is that all of us basically expect that former presidents have access to censored material and probably
	share it in ways that are inappropriate. There were stories about Biden having comparable
	materials. And again, what's interesting is the lack of interrogation about the contents
	of the boxes, in particular the plan for a potential war with Iran and exacerbating the
	tensions between Israel and Iran. What do you think about the coverage of this story?
	And that's it, really.
	Well, because the media is obsessed with Trump, that's all they care about, they're going to ignore the substance of the story, which, as you pointed out, speaks to Trump revealing that there was a plan to attack Iran, and he was against it.
	Therefore, I think, making himself look good.
	But the media doesn't care about stopping warmongering, because they support warmongering.
	They support it when the U.S.
	goes to war against anybody, no matter the consequences.
	And all they care about is ratings and all they care about is going along with this campaign to undermine Trump, not because they care that Trump is a misogynist or has bigoted views.
	They don't think Trump is a suitable steward of the U.S.
	global war machine.
	He says the truth sometimes.
	He says we're in Syria to take the oil.
	You're not supposed to say that.
	You're supposed to say we're there to spread democracy and fight terrorism.
	He said recently about Venezuela that we should have taken their oil as well when he launched a coup there.
	And they didn't care that he launched a coup in Venezuela.
	They just don't like that he's admitting that he wants to take the oil and crush Venezuela's existence as an independent state.
	outside of US control.
	So that's why they're using cases like this with the classified documents to undermine Trump.
	And whether he's guilty or not, I don't really care.
	I don't worship at the church of classified documents.
	I don't respect the Espionage Act.
	I don't think it should exist.
	And I don't care about these intra-elite feuds.
	I care about the substance of what these stories contain.
	And as you point out, this story is more evidence that there is a clamor to attack Iran.
	And it's very odd that we have to rely people like Trump to stand up to it.
	And we certainly can't rely on our media to cover it because they just don't care about stuff like this.
	They just care about spectacle and taking a part in this long running lawfare campaign to undermine Trump, which began when they framed him as a Russian agent.
	And even recently, we had this long report from John Durham, a special counsel, showing what a scam Russiagate was.
	And there's been zero or close to zero introspection in U.S.
	media because they don't care about facts.
	They just care about whatever their agenda is.
	Cool.
	And I like the phrase intra-elite feud.
	Intra-elite feud.
	I'm going to memorize it.
	Intra-elite feud.
	If you watch my content now, Aaron, you're going to hear me saying that.
	Jay Gwyn Wild says that RFK Jr clarified his views on Israel with Glenn Greenwald recently.
	Love going out to you, Glenn.
	Aaron, Can't have seen that he says so maybe he's offered an update on that opinion.
	That would be cool if he has Aaron Thanks for joining us mate.
	You can follow Aaron on his sub stack, of course and at the gray zone Plus you can hear his fantastic podcast the useful idiots podcast Which I haven't been on in spite of seeming to have been designed for that title Aaron.
	Thanks for thanks for joining us, mate Thank you Russell.
	Good to see you.
	Take it easy listen We are going to leave Rumble right now, but only so that we can have a little after-party, a little get-together.
	We'll still be here, maybe you'll take your top off.
	I won't be doing that.
	Too much dignity.
	It's always been your problem.
	I'm going to take my top off though.
	Is this going to be like Bill Maher's nightclub?
	Yep, we're going to get proper high, proper smashed up.
	Drugs.
	What?
	Yep, we're on Rumble now.
	Do drugs!
	Lovely old drugs.
	What harm could they possibly do?
	So if you're watching us on Rumble, give us one final Rumble.
	Press that red button and join us on Locals, where we'll be reading your comments.
	Very much like this one.
	Ian Drummond says, Well, we'll read that on Locals!
	especially as he's bravely come out to say the Palestinian Fall guy didn't kill his dad.
	Oh, okay. Well, we'll read that on Locals.
	Godspeed, Will.
	Conspiracy theories you want, is it?
	Press that red button right now.
	We're gonna just play the end credits, then we'll be there.
	Later this week, my god, we've got exclusive, groundbreaking content around the censorship industrial complex.
	Me, Matt Taibbi, Michael Schellenberger, so-called journalists who stood up to that congressional hearing.
	That's gonna be this Friday.
	Next week, we got Jack Dorsey.
	He had to lay.
	He's got bad signal where he is.
	He's coming up on the show soon, and we've got a guest that's so exciting that It's so exciting, so groundbreaking and revelatory.
	It's such a world exclusive that I'm not even going to blow it by telling you yet.
	It's big.
	It sees me.
	We've got a fantastic coming up and you're going to want to be a locals member by the time that happens because we'll do very exclusive stuff.
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