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June 6, 2023 - Stay Free - Russel Brand
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FBI Secrets EXPOSED | Whistleblower EXCLUSIVE Interview - #140 - Stay Free With Russell Brand
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Hello you awakening wonders.
Thanks for joining us on this voyage to truth and freedom.
We're not going to... Not trees.
Could be.
On the way.
There's one out there.
We had Zelensky out there once.
I miss that guy.
Yeah.
Where's he gone?
You don't hear about him anymore.
Surprise appearances.
He's doing Surprise appearance from Zelensky.
Hey, we've got a great week this week.
We've got Richard Dawkins coming on the show later in the week.
I've already done it.
Members of our locals community, if you want to join that, you can press the red button.
They've already seen it.
I was just with Richard Dawkins just now, and the good news is I've convinced him there definitely is a Jesus.
Oh, well done!
Well done, because he was pretty convinced there wasn't.
No, he said that was wrong.
He's quite firm about that.
Not now.
He says that was all a mistake.
I've seen the light, he says.
He regrets it, does he?
He wandered out of here.
He asked if he could borrow one of my dressing gowns.
I said, get your own, mate.
Yeah.
Get your own!
Materialism, I said.
This material don't come for free, baby.
That's mine.
Thanks.
A Georgia girl goes, what a fab jacket.
Someone in here was talking about their dream.
Oh, oh.
Oh, it's not a jacket.
No, no, no.
You may think that because he's wearing it outside of the bedroom.
But no, it's a dressing gown.
It's a gown.
That's what I'm wearing.
I like it.
Oh, there he goes, Dan.
Go on, Dan.
You can show it, mate.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, there I am.
There's me.
There's my jacket.
There's my dog.
You've got everything you need.
That's the way I live.
Hey, guess who we've got coming on the show?
Today?
Yeah.
FBI whistleblowers.
Well done.
That is it.
It's Steve Friend and Gareth O'Boyle.
Gareth, on-screen assistant there, has just revealed FBI whistleblowers.
They've had enough of the FBI.
That'll do.
You've never been able to pull that off.
I can do this.
That was all right, wasn't it?
Why don't you just do that with the pretend whistle next to your mouth?
Much better.
That's enough of that, FBI!
Garrett O'Boyle, he'll be here, and Steve Friend.
They're sick of the FBI, they've been working there, they've had enough of it.
They're gonna be telling us all about it.
We've got a brilliant presentation on Rachel Maddow doing that military-industrial-complex conference funded by Lockheed Martin, and we asked some questions about the mainstream media and their relationship with the military-industrial-complex, and whether or not it means that wars get reported on favorably, peculiarly, Especially by the left, who used to be all double Desna Avawar, as I recall.
Let me know in the chat, in the comments, if you think that the way that the media is funded, particularly through companies like Raytheon, Lockheed, Martin, and of course General Electric, who own MSNBC?
Comcast and MSNBC, yeah.
They actually sell weapons on the side.
It's a side hustle for them.
They're the 40th biggest in the world, actually.
We've got loads of things to tell you.
We'll be only on Rumble when we do the... Sorry, my dog was panting.
It was really off-point to hear like a... It's not a noise you want in your ear when you're trying to talk about free speech.
You don't get that from me.
Sometimes.
Sometimes I do.
Uh, we're, like, we're gonna be talking about, like, yeah, we're gonna talk to them FBI whistleblowers, and we're gonna be analyzing the news and stuff, right?
Let's start with that.
This is an ABC News report about a near-miss for these warships, and it's really good how they report this, because they're like, uh, this Chinese warship got in the way of an American warship!
Where did this all take place?
China?
They all took place like really near China, didn't they?
Yeah, the Taiwan Strait.
That's between China and Taiwan.
That's right.
It's next, or you could say, next to China.
Like that thing, those windows, that drone collision.
They shot down a drone in the air.
Where was that air?
Above the Black Sea.
And what does the Black Sea touch?
Russia.
Right, so you're sending drones up above Russia.
Yeah, we've been trying to annoy them.
And all this is, of course, because of the changing economic tides that China is set to become the most economically powerful nation in the world in the next... Yeah, by 2035.
2035, or as we say in England, 25 to 9.
2035 or as we say in England 25 to 9. So first of all, sorry, so
Well, I'm gonna do stuff like that sometimes I mean, come to work in a dressing gown, what do you expect?
Let's have a look at this warship thing.
Firstly, from a perspective that makes it look really bad, and then from another perspective that makes it not look that bad at all.
Let's have a look first at the bad one.
Tonight, tensions flaring after that Chinese warship nearly collided with a US military destroyer.
Did you say, like, that Chinese warship?
That Chinese warship!
Look at it over there!
Just see it?
It stinks!
Oh God, it's not washed its ass!
If you're watching us on YouTube, we'll be exclusively on Rumble in a minute, talking to a couple of whistleblowers, Garrett O'Boyle and Stevie Friend.
We'll be talking to them about, they're going to talk about January the 6th.
They're going to reveal stuff that you're going to love, so you're going to want to join us over on Rumble for that.
I suppose you'd freak out if you were on it.
Right.
Like, oh my god!
This is not good, a collision.
Well, that makes it look like, literally, they were about to crash.
Like, it would be mental.
out if you were on it. Right. Oh my god. This is not good, a collision. Well that
makes it look like literally they were about to crash. It'll be mental. Yeah.
Also, do you know that people always use that analogy don't they?
That, you know, if you set off on a thousand mile journey on a battleship and you're just one degree off, by the time you reach your destination, you'll be thousands of miles off or whatever.
That's good.
Was that verbatim?
That's exactly what it says, actually from the Bible.
Within 150 yards of the U.S.
destroyer, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin issuing a stark rebuke to... He used to work military industrial complex, didn't he?
That's right.
He was that?
China's government.
Do the right things to rein in that kind of conduct because I think accidents can happen that could cause things to spiral out of control.
It certainly is.
Joe Biden, we're talking about this a bit later as well, Joe Biden banging on about semiconductors, making their own bombing factories, all sorts of sort of ludicrous semi threats.
Why are you saying that like that?
No, no, I mean, we'll see in a minute.
Seth Moulton, the Democrat congressman who makes the threat about bombing a factory in What, he says it outright?
Yeah, I mean, we'll see.
People are saying crazy stuff, man.
People are well up for war, you know.
They're well up for it.
It's necessary for the economy.
It doesn't matter if people die and if it seems like an odd way to solve a dispute.
People have got a real appetite for it.
At a security summit in Singapore, China's defense minister defended its warship.
What are you doing?
Telling the United States to quote, mind your own...
Mind your own business.
...business.
That's such a colloquial way.
Because he looked like he was saying something like that.
The action went with it.
Mind your own business!
He said, yeah!
Get out of it!
Like, it's really like, this is international diplomacy.
Mental.
A provocation.
The near collision, the latest episode straining an already tense US-China relationship.
Just like- We're showing you this because it's the amplification of
tensions between China and the US and you simply wouldn't be seeing things like this on the news
unless there was an appetite for there to be some kind of conflict.
If they didn't want a conflict, they wouldn't put this on the news.
So it's another example of how the media supports favorable narratives that support outcomes
that the military-industrial complex will benefit from.
And the mainstream media still somehow presents itself as the sort of arbiters of peace and morality.
And a figure like Rachel Maddow, who I've told you before I like, like she's on MSNBC, sort of like, in 2011 she said like that Congress are in the pockets of the military-industrial complex.
Well, now she seems to have joined them in that pocket because she appeared at an event for Lockheed Martin.
We're looking at that in more depth, Bob.
Gal, I wanted to see, let's have a look guys at Caitlyn Johnson's tweet about that and then we'll look at the alternative angle.
She goes, that sounds incredibly aggressive of China.
Where was this?
I'm assuming it must be immediately off the coast of California or Hawaii because of the way this tweet was written.
Chinese warship came within 150 yards of hitting American destroyer USS Chung Hun.
They've even used a bit of a Chinese sounding name of their warship.
You're really trying to wind them up, aren't they?
Yeah.
Look at where it happens.
There's China.
Oh, they're out of order.
Have a look at the alternative angle as well, the footage.
It's not as bad.
Although, if you was on the battleship, I still think you'd be well brick in it.
Have a look.
They have a bit of footage.
Go on, show us here.
That's...
From that angle, it's quite nice.
It's like Howard Swayze.
It's like a yacht cruise.
What are you doing?
No, just sunbathing.
Nice to see you.
See you later.
Do you mind if we have Taiwan make all our semiconductors?
Why?
You're out of order.
Mind your own business.
I'll do you, mate.
They're talking like that.
They're talking like Cockneys over there in their diplomacy.
Yeah.
Should we see Seth Moulton?
What is he, a Democrat?
Congressman.
Have a look at him.
He's saying he's going to blow up the factories or something.
Can he for semiconductors?
Check it out.
One of the interesting ideas that's floated out there for deterrence is just making it very clear to the Chinese that if you invade Taiwan, we're going to blow up TSMC.
If you do that, you have a $2 trillion economic impact on the global economy.
This is a terrible idea.
I'm not promoting the idea.
If China takes over TSMC, we could very well face the same level of economic consequences, not globally, but for the United States.
He's just said it out loud.
He's literally said it out loud.
You don't mean to say that, mate.
No.
It's like, it will have... I'm not talking globally.
If it went... If China got it, yeah, globally.
But, you know, if we destroy it, then it would hit, you know, the US.
He's basically said it out loud.
It's incredible.
Also, notice that the way that it's discussed is entirely in economic terms.
Yeah.
Like, there's no...
It's a reflection on the human cost, morality, ethics, common decency.
She even said, the other politician I'm assuming, that there'll be a two trillion dollar impact.
Yeah, that two trillion dollar impact will be people's lives, missiles, armaments.
Absolutely that.
And then when the US are accusing China of aggressiveness, you would suggest this sounds a bit more aggressive.
Oh man, imagine that was a Chinese politician going, well, they start on us, we'll just blow up their battleships.
You'd be like, that'll be a serious international incident.
I think they're provoking China and I think that there's some evidence that suggests, well, I mean, they provoked Russia.
Allegedly.
He's done it.
NATO.
That's an allegation.
Allegedly.
Shall we see, what's this?
RFK Junior thanks Elon Musk.
Did they do that Twitter thing last night?
Did it go well?
Apparently so.
I think there were fewer hitches than with the Santas, to put it that way.
I reckon our interview with him was better though.
Of course it was.
We did a really good one.
Thorough.
It's up now.
It's very thorough.
We've covered everything, basically.
Also, Elon will be on here.
Where's my bloody phone?
Elon will be on here any minute.
We'd better organise it.
Is it in your dressing gown pocket?
I don't know where I've left it.
I don't know where I've left it.
Bear thinks I'm going to produce a dog bisque and get it out of my pocket.
What kind of lives do you think I'm living?
Jack Dorsey has endorsed RFK, or it's his endorsement.
I'm sorry that I said that, but it's been done now.
Um I think that what's going to be great with like Cornel West announcing his candidacy here on this very show for the People's Party with RFK running that the conversation is going to be extraordinary because somehow RFK when he came on here oh the military were behind the whole vaccine he said some extraordinary stuff you've got to see that interview it's going to change the conversation It's like, obviously my assumption would be that the Democratic Party aren't going to allow RFK's candidacy to flourish, let alone be successful.
They'll be trying to shut that down, close that down at every opportunity.
Biden's refused to debate him or Marianne Williamson.
The mainstream media won't platform any of these people.
They'll come up with excuses.
Oh, they must be racist or conspiracy theorists or anti-vaxxers or something.
They'll find some way of legitimizing their censorship.
That's always what they do.
But the conversation is going to be out there because of outlets like this one and endorsements like Jack Dorsey's.
Yeah and bringing it back to war and China and Ukraine and things it's
interesting how many of the candidates across the board now are unified in the idea of
ending wars and and in terms of Cornel West who was on yesterday disbanding
NATO now these are ideas that are across now a kind of cross party other than
the current president of the United States.
you look at RFK, Marianne Williamson, Trump, DeSantis, Cornel West, they're all saying
end the wars, bring the troops back, disband NATO. Significant figures and
ideas that don't seem so radical when you see Seth Moulton and that other
person there just casually espousing a massive geopolitical crisis solely in
economic terms, when for most of us we still feel that that would primarily be
a humanitarian disaster and a disaster for the planet. What was that you flashed
up guys what should we do something else that's got nothing on it
No, that's just a blank page.
That's just a blank page.
That's pure surrender.
Are we still on YouTube?
We're off YouTube.
Rachel Maddow, Goat of Preach, Whistleblowers.
In a minute, right, I think we've got the FBI on the line, the whistleblowers, but before that, we respect, while the world may not respect your free speech, While the WHO may still be offering up the guidelines that are followed on YouTube, they've renewed their deal with Google, we respect your free speech.
And where freedom and speech meet, you get freech.
Freech.
Where freedom and speech meet, you get free speech.
Where free speech meets, you get freech.
That's not bad.
I mean, it's good.
All right, well done.
Let's have a look at some of your inquiries and questions and stuff like that.
We had Cornel West announce his presidential candidacy here on our show yesterday.
Loads of you were bang into it.
Others of you thought, oh no, he's talking too much about egalitarianism and wealth redistribution, I think, without giving due attention to the fact that we already have massive wealth redistribution, like the five trillion wealth transfer that took place during the pandemic, creating a billionaire a day.
But we have it in what I would regard as the wrong direction.
Rabfan, Yeah.
Russell, do you have any musical talents?
I don't, actually.
And also, Cornel West might allow you to play.
I mean, he certainly cared, I'd say, as much about jazz as he does politics.
He mentioned jazz a lot, didn't he?
And he called me brother.
Garth.
But then he tried to put a syllable in.
He did, yeah.
But they don't have Gareth's out there.
No, they don't.
They have Garth's.
And they have Garrett's, who will be on soon.
They've got Garth Brooks, they've got him, and they've got Garrett coming on in a minute.
So I hope there won't be an awkward exchange between you and the FBI whistleblowers.
I hope you won't embarrass us by asking one of your questions that always has that ridiculous, ridiculous sting.
Well, you do that, don't you?
Yes.
This person says, Achela says, I'm falling into a spiritual trance.
Beautiful words, musical purity of intended words.
That's from Achela.
She's a friend of the show.
If you want to join us for a chat, get into Locals.
If you're watching this on Rumble right now, press that red button on your screen.
Just join us in Locals.
It's brilliant.
You get loads of stuff in there.
I do a meditation every week with people.
It's brilliant.
And you would have already watched me with Dickie Dawkins if you'd have done that.
I feel wrong calling him Dickie Dawkins now I've met him.
Yeah.
I also, mate, there was some mad bits.
There's one bit where I goes, have you had been looked at for neurodiversity?
No.
I go, you should.
But I said it in a nice way, didn't I?
Lovingly.
But like, did I not in a nice way?
I was trying to be nice.
Suki Koala.
I can't believe how many truth speakers have announced their run for presidency.
It's good, isn't it?
At this rate, you, Russell, will be made King of England.
It doesn't say that.
Susie1119.
I don't remember any other presidential announcements making me cry.
Hillary Clinton?
Trump?
I don't know.
Depends what you're into.
I would pay to see a debate between Biden and West. Yeah, that'd be brilliant, but Joe Biden...
I think we know who'd win that.
Yeah, oh come on brother Joel, man!
You struggle to get a word in.
Yeah, I'd sat there quietly, didn't I? You want to see it?
I've clammed right up with Cornel West.
And Joe Biden, we're doing another presentation on him later this week when he's announcing the
removal of the debt ceiling and announcing that there's going to be no more expenditure on vital
American amenities, all the while the Republicans and Democrats are coming together to unilaterally
agree that there'll be no limitation on spending on the Ukrainian conflict, money that will,
as you know, end up in the hands primarily of the military-industrial complex.
Well, when he was making that announcement, He looked sort of like he'd been on the mortician's slab when he threw up.
Like he's now reached the point where he sort of can barely say stuff.
I know, they've started to leave the mistakes in now.
They're leaving the mistakes in, it's too hard to come.
I think they're almost uneditable now.
Uneditable errors, and we'd be quite nice about him when he fell down like that.
Weren't we?
But, like, he's mumbling too much.
You can't have it.
Like, you want Cornel West in charge, or you want RFK, or Marianne Williamson, or even you lot like Trump, don't you?
I mean, at least have someone, if it's going to be a corrupt system, put an entertainer in charge.
That's what I will say.
A lot of people talking about Gareth.
Oh, how was your game of tennis?
I mean, are we going to get into that?
No, I don't think so, do we?
Was it any good?
What did you wear?
Well, it was fine.
Normal clothes?
Yeah, we'll carry on.
Did you wear a little tight little pair of shorts?
What did you wear, little trunks?
I did, I wore little trunks.
I've done my exercise in my pants today, didn't I, Dan?
You know we're about to speak to the FBI.
There'll be whistleblower about this.
Hey, this is ridiculous.
This is a waste of time.
We want to talk about Jan 6th.
Listen, we're going to go and talk to those whistleblowers.
Gareth, what's your problem with Bear?
Were you bitten by a dog as a child?
That's from Fire Girl 2020, friend of the show.
No.
Mind your own business.
Hey, mind your own business!
Like they say over in China.
All right, listen, why don't we talk to these FBI whistleblowers?
If you're watching this on YouTube now, we can't broadcast these FBI whistleblowers, these brave men who are willing to testify against the FBI, who many people feel should be disbanded, because they're going to say stuff about January the 6th that would get us struck off.
Banned.
Deplatformed.
Demonetized.
We want the truth.
You want the truth.
You've been suspecting for a little while now, haven't you, that January the 6th has been reported on inaccurately and utilized to introduce anti-protest laws, legitimize surveillance, spend additional revenue on the Capitol Police Force.
See, I can do it, gal.
No, no.
I can do it.
Good stuff.
So if you want to hear more about that from an actual Whistleblower, join us now on Rumble.
There's a link in the description.
It's going to be fantastic.
I'll see you over there.
I love you.
Come on, let's get over there.
Right.
Joining me now are a couple of actual whistleblowers that you've seen on the news.
Steve Friend and Garrett O'Boyle.
Before we introduce them, let's have a look at the clips as we feel more excited about it.
I mean, I'm already excited, but I'm saying for you, the viewers, we make this for you.
I'm not just here in my dressing gown for myself, you know.
Let's see them.
Working as an FBI special agent was my dream job.
My whistleblowing was apolitical and in the spirit of upholding my oath.
Nonetheless, the FBI cynically elected to close ranks and attack the messenger.
The FBI will crush you.
This government will crush you and your family if you try to expose the truth about things that they are doing that are wrong.
And we are all examples of that.
Joining us now are Steve Friend and Garrett O'Boyle.
Thanks for joining us, fellas.
Yeah, thanks for having us.
Thank you very much.
All right, I see.
So we've got both of you on, so we're going to have to deal with the double Zoom phenomena.
First of all, Garrett, let's talk about the January 6th revelations.
What in particular do you feel has caused you to get so much blowback?
What is it that you have said that's caused so much consternation?
What in particular did you observe about January the 6th and the FBI handling of it and FBI instigation and involvement in those protests?
So my January 6th example that I whistleblew about was I received a lead from the Washington field office And it was based on an anonymous tip.
So in the U.S., in law enforcement, anonymous tips don't hold a whole lot of weight, especially when there's limited information.
You can't recontact the person who made the claim, things of that nature.
And there's Supreme Court case law that helps dictate that.
And so in mine, it was very limited info.
And so I thought, OK, I'll do my best, my due diligence to run this down.
And as I'm working on that for a day or two, I get some additional information from the same special agent in Washington who sent me the original lead and they were asking me to request a federal grand jury subpoena on the person that the original lead was on as well as a separate website where they made an illogical leap linking a username that we had no information about and with the person that I was supposed to be investigating.
As I'm trying to figure all that out I then get a facial recognition match and by this point I had already had the most current driver's license photo of my subject and the quote-unquote facial recognition match was someone who was about 150 pounds lighter and had a full head of hair whereas the person I was investigating was bald.
So I was really confused at this point and As I dug deeper, it turned out that someone in my field office had submitted a driver's license photo that was approximately 25 years old to the people in the lab who do the facial recognition stuff.
And so at that point, I was like, okay, this is really out of bounds.
There's no due process.
being had here for the person that they want me to investigate and eventually I was able to make contact with that person and they told me they didn't want to talk to me without a lawyer and they told me that they weren't breaking any law no matter where they were on January 6th so at that point it was clear to me that there was No further information to to keep going with this investigation and then I contacted the person who made that facial recognition submission and they were adamant that regardless of the of the age of the driver's license photo that I had a match and
I was just completely flabbergasted at that point because it's completely outside any constitutional norms that I had ever dealt with inside law enforcement, which I had been working in it for eight years total.
So that's my January 6th example.
And I know I'm not the only one, but because Marcus Allen and Steve, they also had January 6th issues, which they whistle blew about.
You guys, the next question is for you, Steve, because this is a fair and just system, unlike the FBI, it seems.
And Garrett, you can stop touching your nose because you are still on the television and we are still watching you.
Now, have you become friends?
I notice that you've both got the American flag behind you.
Are you mates?
Do you love each other?
Are you going to carry on doing this stuff, whistleblowing against the FBI?
And what other nefarious activities are you aware of?
But do answer those first questions about the flag and being mates first.
And that's you, Steve.
Please, mate.
Yep, yep.
Garrett and I have been acquainted basically since we both became whistleblowers last September.
And it's a small network.
We call ourselves the Suspendables, which we kind of did on a lark just to think of future Employment opportunities, maybe we could be mercenaries somewhere and rip off Sylvester Stallone.
But apparently the New York Times found it very nefarious sounding and put it in the newspaper of record.
So we have taken that mantle and you can see Garrett wearing some Suspendables gear right now.
Ah, it's cool!
It's cool!
Yeah, I like it.
It's cool that you're having fun with it.
Absolutely.
I mean, you have to laugh or you'd cry.
It's been sort of an out-of-control bureau in the way that they've gone after Garrett and myself and many others who, you know, we came forward with the best of intentions.
We didn't want to be talking to you, Russell.
We just wanted to, you know, alert the people that were in a position of authority to make corrections and thought things were kind of out of whack.
We wanted to go back to just doing the Joe Friday, just the facts, let's put bad guys in jail.
But unfortunately, the FBI has just become out of control at this point.
I suppose your detractors will say that you have a particular political persuasion and that you are agitators on behalf of the same movement that they would say are behind January the 6th but actually some of your revelations indicate that there were a considerable number of FBI operatives in that crowd who were perhaps doing more than monitoring and observing Allegedly.
but in fact possibly instigating and exacerbating the conditions and there is some precedent for that
allegedly within the FBI. Numerous cases where their investigations have gone beyond investigation
and have become instigation. Furthermore as I heard you in your testimony say Steve,
that the surveillance has gone beyond the observance of certain criminal acts to an
ongoing cycle of surveillance that is unending and limitless.
So back to you now, Gareth, because it is your turn and I'm determined to do this fairly and justly even though it has to be said your flag is not as big as Steve's and that makes you seem a bit A bit unpatriotic, I'd have to say.
So, tell me, mate, have you got any more information on FBI instigation on January the 6th and elsewhere?
Regarding January the 6th, there was another whistleblower whose testimony was played at our hearing.
His name is George Hill, and he had some information regarding Washington Field Office not wanting to release a video to the Boston Field Office where he was working because they were concerned about revealing identities of FBI informants and or undercover employees.
So I think once that revelation came to light, it became clear to everyone who already wasn't paying attention that there was Most likely a heavy law enforcement presence involved with the events of that day, but it certainly is something that the FBI takes under consideration in many, many different types of cases.
So, in the FBI, a confidential informant is known as a confidential human source, or CHS, and it's FBI policy that FBI agents have at least one CHS on the books.
Many have more than one, and it's the purview of the agency to push agents to implement CHS use as often as they can.
So they will never release the amount of CHSs that the agency has as a whole, but it is a considerable number, and they try to put those CHSs and undercover employees into a wide range of different type of investigations.
There's a recent story about Biden and bribery, as well as a new report, or poll at least, that suggests that the majority of Americans want the FBI to be reformed or shut down.
Steve, given your recent experience, do you think reform is possible, or do you think that the entire organisation needs to be disbanded and started again?
I think it's a six-on-one, half-dozen-or-the-other situation.
I think the amount of reforms that are going to be necessary to make the FBI function properly in federal law enforcement are going to be so enormous that maybe starting all over again might just be the simpler task at this point.
But I think that the elected officials are very scared of being labeled as Defund the police candidate for office.
So there's all this reticence that surrounds that, but those guys just need to talk to the people that are boots on the ground, the Gerardo Boyles, the Steve Friends who actually worked in the FBI and can tell you that it's really all about empowering local law enforcement.
That should be what the FBI prioritizes above anything else.
This whole thought where you have a central hub in Washington, D.C., and they send out cases around the country to be worked is just farcical.
All the good cases that the FBI works Thank you.
Gareth, do you have a question for Steve or Gareth?
and the sheriff's offices, where we have our small offices around the country. And we just
really have to be there to support those guys because they don't have the finances and the
cool gadgets that the FBI has. And maybe thinking about it in that way might make it more palatable
to the reforms that are necessary.
Thank you. Gareth, do you have a question for Steve or Gareth?
I do.
Excuse me.
And remember, when you do your question, you're going to have to direct it to one, because
otherwise it would be chaos.
Oh, you think not to both?
Well, how are they going to know how to answer it?
What if they step all over each other?
Okay, I'll try to do that, Russell.
It's difficult for me.
I'll whistle blow on you so hard!
Sure, sure.
Gentlemen, I just wanted to talk briefly about the Congressional hearing and the Democrats and The way in which you've been treated by, I guess, both the FBI and the Democrats.
Obviously we know recently about the Durham report and the findings there, and also about the 278,000 illegal searches that were done by the FBI that's been reported on as well.
And a sentence written by Michael Schellenberger, and I just wondered your opinions on it.
He said, so why did the FBI and Democrats attack the FBI whistleblowers?
Perhaps because they are revealing at a minimum the FBI's failure to stop the riot, And more maximally, its role in instigating it.
And I wondered if it was going too far to suggest the FBI had a role in instigating Jan 6th, and what your thoughts were on that.
And who's that to?
Oh, that's initially to Steve.
Oh, gentlemen, gentlemen.
Who's it?
Steve, yeah.
Yeah, I think that the demand for domestic terrorism in this country by our elected officials and by leaders in the FBI vastly outstrips the supply of it.
And unfortunately, the FBI essentially has a quota system that bosses get bonuses for if they open a certain number of cases.
So domestic terrorism is popular and they want to open up a lot of cases.
So they've contrived ways to work smarter and not harder.
And as a result of that, the FBI has evolved into this intelligence-driven agency, and it deploys its informants, its confidential human sources, and its undercovers, and oftentimes infiltrates these groups that they label as possibly domestic terrorists or could become domestic terrorists.
And as a result of that, you have an incident that happens at January 6th, or even on a smaller scale, like the plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, where it was sort of revealed in the trial for those individuals that they were essentially entrapped, that they were not predisposed to commit that.
That offense, but because of the infiltration on behalf of the government, not that the government set up the group, but they infiltrated so heavily that they encouraged these guys to do things that they were not predisposed to do.
And I think that you saw that on its worst example on January 6, where there are a lot of organizations that were there just to support Donald Trump or to protest and redress their grievances in front of the Congress, which is their First Amendment protected activity.
But because there were infiltrators afoot, they encouraged them to do something that was illegal.
You are getting a lot of love here in the chat, as well as some inquiries.
Georgie Gal says, presumably AI will replace the FBI.
If you want to join us on Locals, just press the red button on your screen now and I can see your questions.
Jim Earth C137, they both seem like good men who are just trying to do the Some people are talking about the bribe of Biden and then true chimera.
Who likes Mexican food?
Not the Tex-Mex stuff.
the best truth will prevail. Oh, Zonaxation says, it looked staged. All those unmarked
grey buses that were bought in during that day contained what I believe were paid disruptors.
Some people are talking about the bribe of Biden. And then TrueChimera, who likes Mexican
food, not the Tex-Mex stuff, the real stuff. You've gone off topic, TrueChimera.
Guys, can I ask you this?
Some people say, you just don't like the Democrat Party or something.
Do you like the Democrat Party?
Are you impartial?
Are you MAGA folk?
Are you allowed them type of affiliations in the Trump Party?
Do you think that your testimony will be utilised in a partisan way?
And does that concern you?
What are your own political affiliations, if I may ask you?
And have they led you to do this whistleblowing and stuff?
I'll take that one first.
I would say I align more as a libertarian than anything else.
In 2016, I voted libertarian across the ballot.
But especially as an FBI employee, and furthermore, as an investigator, Your job is to be as unpartisan as possible or nonpartisan as possible.
And that's something any police academy, the FBI Academy, any constitutional law course you might take, they try to teach you that and drill that into your head.
But as we've seen with something like the Durham Report and the Crossfire Hurricane Investigation and things of that nature, it's the top echelon, especially of the FBI, that are the ones that Our partisan and are seemingly having an agenda to skew the law enforcement activities one way or the other in this nation.
And it's incumbent on every investigator to have it at the forefront of their mind that they come from a certain background and certain experiences that have helped.
Shape and mold them.
So they have to always remember that they have their own biases.
I do.
Steve does.
They're probably different in some ways.
And that's why it's on us to always remember, okay, am I looking at this investigation or the facts that I'm discovering in this investigation as impartially as possible and following the rule of law as best as I can without my own agenda?
And I think for both of us, The answer was that the FBI as a whole was the institution that was not partisan, or that was partisan rather, and that in part is what led us to come forward.
When I was deposed in February, I told both Democrat lawyers and Republican lawyers that these issues are not partisan in nature, or they shouldn't be.
And then, lo and behold, a few weeks later, it was the Democrat side who leaked small snippets of that testimony and tried to paint me as some deep mega-operative.
And that couldn't be further from the truth.
And when something like that happens, it was clear to me that they are the ones with an agenda.
They don't really care about the facts or substance of our protected disclosures.
They care only about protecting the party, only about protecting the FBI.
And that couldn't be more clear to me at this point.
Yeah, that makes sense, Garrett.
The state should only be partisan in response to a democratic mandate.
They should represent the will of the people.
I think what you're saying is that these institutions have metastasized into their own sort of centers of authoritarianism.
Throughout the pandemic, we saw the FBI's attempt to control social media spaces.
That's been Demonstrated now, it's pretty plain they've been acting in a partisan way across a number of issues.
Steve, would you like to add anything to Garrett's previous comments?
And also then, could we take it to how it's been emotionally for you since you've gone public?
Has it been frightening?
Have you faced any consequences?
But first, are you a raving maggot?
No, I think my default setting is similar to Garrett, where I'm a libertarian by nature.
I like to look at each individual candidate for a particular office.
I kind of view politicians as being plumbers.
I just want them to solve the problem and then, you know, not really get personally attached to any one of them.
I think the one thing that gets lost in the attacks that came after me on the Democrat side during the hearing, where they tried to attribute some sort of sympathy towards a political side, I brought my whistleblower concerns forward, not because I had sympathy for the subject, but because I thought we might be putting our cases in jeopardy.
If it was a righteous prosecution and we were not buttoned up in what we were doing and the FBI is not following the rules, I thought we could lose a trial.
And then I was also concerned that there was a public safety risk in using a SWAT team to arrest somebody who had already pledged to be cooperative with law enforcement.
A simple phone call to an attorney and ask to surrender is more than adequate in that situation.
It was not because I was trying to get my fellow MAGA guy out of jail for free.
I just wanted, I would think of myself more as a system idealist.
And I think of criminals as system disruptors that we have to push back on.
And now at this point, the FBI is really the system disruptor.
They're not following our rule book.
They're not following our constitution.
As far as emotionally and just the fallout after this, it was pretty rough.
I was unpaid for 150 days.
The FBI denied me the ability to seek outside employment, which I requested, and they denied in one calendar day.
My wife lost her job under very suspicious circumstances very shortly after I was put in unpaid indefinite suspension.
The FBI leaked my private medical information to the New York Times and told them that I was accused of shooting a firearm in my backyard.
And then the inspection division within the FBI also said that they tried to put a gag order on me to prevent me from speaking to an attorney or even my family about the situation.
So it was a long train of abuses and eventually ended with my resignation in order to—I had a job offer on the table and had been unpaid for long enough that I had to provide for my family.
Again and again in the chat here on Locals, press the red button if you want to join.
The word that is being used is brave.
A lot of people are in awe of the personal sacrifices you have made as a result of your belief in liberty and Just this and it's very very impressive that you have taken this risk and you've put yourself in a position where you can evoke so much ire and receive so much negative attention and of course I suppose the way that you're treated will indicate what kind of biases are present because all of us regardless of our political affiliations
ought be interested in justice and telling the truth and the transparency and reliability of an organization like the FBI.
Steve, I liked your remark that politicians should just be like plumbers solving problems and a lot of people picked up on that in the chat as well.
I'd like to thank both of you very much for joining us today on Stay Free and also to thank you once again for putting yourself in such a vulnerable position where you've been the subject of persecution because Of your values and your personal sacrifices.
Thank you very much, both of you.
Thank you for having me.
Thanks for having us.
Aren't they lovely?
How big is that bloody flag that Steve's got?
It's the whole wall of his house!
For God's sake, the size of it!
Lots of love, guys.
Thanks very much for joining us.
That's fantastic.
To find out more about Steve and Garrett's work, go to centerforrenewingamerica.org.
Now, you lot in the chat, you decide.
Shall we show you a presentation that we've made where we talk about Rachel Maddow headlining a conference that was funded by Lockheed Martin, and we talk about the influence that the military-industrial complex are able to exert on political processes and media reporting through their expenditure, or do you just want us to Muckabout and just be stupid and just make stuff up off the top of our heads.
So you can just say Rachel Maddow or top of head, muckabed.
Muckabout, muckabed, stupid, muckabed, both.
All right.
I love your tan.
Muckabout, Rachel.
That's racist.
No, not racist.
Mad cow.
It's not racist.
It's just rude.
That's what that was.
But a lot of people want both.
All right, some people are saying happy birthday.
Well, all right, let's do this then.
Have a look at, right, when it was my birthday, like everyone sang happy birthday to me, such is the custom.
And I feel like I'm not sure that I behave correctly in a happy birthday situation.
Oh, look, Steve's still there.
I saw him there.
Steve's still there.
I hope he stays forever.
I love him.
That's great.
May I say?
Oh, yeah.
The way you treated those FBI whistleblowers.
Wrong, was it?
I think you've... I was as bad as Stacey Plaskett, where her name is.
You, in a way, I think, concretised the entire experience for them.
Right, I'm sorry about that.
I didn't mean to.
You were cynical, you were sneering, it was... I was appalled by what I saw.
I do apologise.
It's alright, it's quite nice.
Let's have a look at me getting sang Happy Birthday at.
Oh, there's me, there.
There you are again, see?
You look nice there.
Here's me getting sang Happy Birthday at.
Have a look.
Thanks, all of you.
I'm so happy with these.
I know to be a vegan donut.
I trust this brand.
These are lovely flowers.
I'm really, really happy.
I'm happy to be back at work.
I feel quite rested.
I feel all right.
I'm really, really happy to be here.
Thank you.
Now, Angie, you like surprises.
Why don't you take...
I always find there's a lot of pressure to be able to blow out all birthday candles.
Oh yeah, you should be able to.
We're together from across the world!
Thank you, stay free.
Oh shit!
That's the strategy, sorry.
Whim Hoff, got lung breaths.
I always feel under a lot of pressure to be able to blow out all birthday candles.
Oh yeah, you should be able to, there's only about five.
I thought I'd done alright.
It took you a while.
I just was wondering if that was... I wanted to see that back just to see if my behaviour was normal.
I thought you did okay.
You normally, you are a bit awkward in those situations.
Like say if I'm at an award ceremony, like it's been a while, let's face it, but like either hosting it or as the potential recipient, I always look a bit sort of weird.
No, I think you've done a lot of work, interpersonal work.
Like how to be... I've improved, haven't I?
Yeah, you've got... I've come across as like normal... Techniques now, haven't you?
Hello, well done.
Please, thank you.
Yeah.
Well, you did it with the FBI whistleblowers.
Went straight in on the, I don't know, more kind of... Friendly.
Friendly questions.
Yeah, a bit friendly.
I wondered if you were going to get to it at all, but you did in the end.
I did enough about whistleblowing, I thought.
Yeah, it's alright.
So you want to watch the Rachel Maddow thing, or do you want to... What did I wish for?
I actually wish for world peace.
Always wish for the same thing.
World peace.
Always.
This week on History Now.
Alright, yeah, let's do History Now.
Right, let's do...
The news has been going for as long as there are people, but never forget that the news is a TV show with a perspective.
That the news always presents you with a version of events that's favourable, in our opinion here on Stay Free, with the interests of the powerful.
Let's have a look at On This Week in History.
I think it's called, the item.
That should be maybe the same colour.
Why would you use a different colour for that bit?
It's not even the same type of yellow that's in the yellow of This Week in History.
Make it the same font and everything.
I think he comes to work drunk.
Do you?
That's not the work of someone who's not drunk.
No.
Surprised he got the dates right.
Alright, let's have a look at this week in history.
Did you know, in June 1999, Tankman in Tiananmen Square.
That's not Tankman in Tiananmen Square!
That's Michael J. Fox!
That's Michael J. Fox in Back to the Future 3!
Holding his cowboy boots!
Jack in charge of editorial have we?
Oh god.
We're in real trouble now.
Imagine I'd done that with a lot of emotional gravitas if I'd gone and now the moving spectacle of the power one person can have when they're willing to stand up to tyranny in a time where authoritarianism is becoming more and more pervasive.
We need to take inspiration from Tankman is my Great Scott, Marty!
Marty, we've got to do something about your kid!
Marty, you've got to go back to the past!
Have sex with your mum!
Go fucker!
In the past, Marty!
It's the only way!
Oh, I don't know about this, Doc, for God's sake.
Let's have a look at Tank Man in Tiananmen Square.
It was noontime today in the centre of Beijing when a man walked to the middle of the Avenue of Eternal Peace, which as it happened was already occupied.
He walked to the middle and stood there.
It's very powerful as an image isn't it and earlier when we watched it in our meeting where we were sort of preparing the show, yes we do prepare it, I was quite touched and almost tearful at the stand that man had made and as Jamie observes he's got his shop in and that it's not like he was even out to protest he just popped out and thought hang on this ain't right.
The avenue of eternal peace with all them tanks on it.
Sarcastic.
Yeah it is sarcastic.
Please!
You can't do that on the Avenue of Eternal Peace!
He's like Strange Lovian.
But why didn't they run him over?
Well, I guess they didn't want to do that.
Well, you know, think about your role as a tank driver, I would say.
I wonder what happened to the drivers.
Severely reprimanded?
I think a severe reprimand for the drivers and I would say a private execution of the tank man.
Sure.
They think almost immediately after.
He got himself quite jazzed up and went from stopping it to getting on the tank.
he stopped there were 18 tanks and armored carriers in this convoy and while he talked
to the crew and ignored the gunfire he stopped all of them one man alone of course can't stop an army
except for a moment that's exactly what happened here for three got himself quite jazzed up and
went from stopping it to getting on the tank exactly yeah pretty good
A lot of people, someone said here, you should probably give Jackson positive enforcement, it might improve his work, but what can we positively enforce?
Um, that he's come at all, he's here, he's turned up.
In the middle of the day, an army was stopped by a man who stood still.
A man who'd made up his mind, it seems, though why, we just don't know.
But when bystanders rushed in to save this stubborn soul, it wasn't easily done.
He was pushed away at last, faceless in the crowd.
Safe, we think, but in a city verging on calamity.
What moves a man to just stand still?
Is it courage, or outrage, or madness?
We can't tell what was on his mind, and we can't forget what he did.
Richard Roth, CBS News, Beijing.
Well done, yes, good news.
That's encouraging and inspiring.
It's interesting though, isn't it?
Obviously, you know, we've been talking about China and US aggression and what's going on there at the moment and the kind of two-sided stories that there are with that.
And then we just had FBI whistleblowers of like a scene in the capital That's maybe being reported differently to the reality of it.
And then you watch a news report like this and you think, God, these things are, you know, the way that this is reported compared to events in America would be extremely different.
But there's things going on everywhere.
Tiananmen Square was not a false flag event.
I think it's safe to say.
Hey, but this is really interesting.
Look at the way that in 1973, this week in 1973, David Bowie was reported on.
Like we all now know David Bowie.
Broadly as a universally lauded genius.
So everyone, whether you like him or not, sort of think that guy's a genius.
In 1973, like, the news was so undermining, sarcastic, demeaning and condescending.
David Bowie is doing a performance.
He's little more than a prat.
And then, like, the way they talk to his fans is really amazing.
Check out this bit of British news.
You'll love this.
He's got such a different tone to anything you'd see on television these days.
Every seat was sold months ago.
Some fans were even blessed with a glimpse of the master as he scurried into the theatre.
Scurried?
They've already started off, like, that's how rats and mice scurry.
Look at him, he's scurrying in there.
He involuntarily shits and pisses as he walks.
Wherever you are in London, you're never more than a metre from David Bowie.
What are you so upset about?
This young lady's having the worst day of her life, right?
So she's already upset because she hasn't seen David Bowie.
You think, well, these things won't get worse.
They will get worse.
Because the news report is really sort of sarcastic and mean to her.
And then it's really good.
Like, what's the one thing you wouldn't want to happen if you were on the news crying because you ain't met David Bowie?
Have a little think.
Let me know in the chat what you think it would be.
And then look at what happens.
They said he was coming round the back.
They said he was coming round the back.
I've been waiting for ages to see him.
I kissed his hand!
9 o'clock!
Why are you so upset?
He's smashing!
I kissed him!
I kissed his hand!
Haha!
Like a bunch of people I've just met there!
I kissed him!
I'm carrying his baby!
David Bowie and me are getting married!
Third finger, left hand!
It's getting worse and worse for her.
I kissed his hand!
I kissed his hand!
I kissed him!
I went, oh!
Oh, it's lovely!
We weren't just sitting for ages.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
It was only over there.
She just missed him, poor sod.
Fantastic!
Don't worry.
I kissed his hand.
He's got thin little legs.
He's got thin little legs.
I don't like him.
This guy's bringing too much of his personal opinions.
Look at my legs.
They're bigger.
Definitely.
They're definitely bigger.
My mother always said I had legs like tree trunks.
Why don't you take a look at Beau's legs?
I can put on lipstick just as easily as he.
I'm as androgynous as an X-Man.
It's got lovely legs.
Not only the young have come... It's got lovely legs.
That's what Britain's all about.
...to ogle at Bowie.
I'll go.
So have members of a pensioners club from Newcastle.
It's as good as a show to us.
We've never seen anything like this.
You see how the media's always had a kind of rather condescending attitude towards the public.
They sort of see us as sort of specimens.
Look at them, those idiots.
They are completely captivated by David Bowie.
Merely a genius who is able to have understood that we're on the precipice of a new kind of aesthetic around space age.
Employing androgyny to suggest that borders and boundaries are not as clearly delineated as we'd once assumed.
Who will write hit after hit For many decades, continually reinventing himself.
I can continually reinvent myself, you know, I could have been anybody.
Meanwhile, the object of so much interest is trying on his kinky boots.
This is the face the public wants.
An ex-art student from Brixton, whose dad worked for Dr. Bernardo's Holmes, has turned himself into a bizarre, self-constructed freak.
That's so rude!
Think about when David Bowie died, the outpouring of grief, the reverence, how he's become now a cultural icon that almost you can't criticise.
But then, look at him.
He's disgusting.
I can see his willies through his trousers and that's not much neither.
Impromptu, isn't it?
Laugh.
He's nice.
They're just like lads, aren't they?
It is a sign of our times that a man with a painted face and carefully adjusted lipstick should inspire adoration from an audience of girls aged between 14 and 20.
He's just another fella, you know.
Just what?
Another fella, you know.
Just another fella.
I could release an album.
What's wrong with me?
I've got a record.
Stood out for the most stages.
Misunderstood stardom and fame and celebrity.
Just another... No, we know that.
That's not actually the point.
Why not me?
Let this go, man.
Nobody like him can produce the music.
Oh, so that's a good point.
He's not just another fella.
He's written all this incredible music.
Isn't it a bit degrading standing outside the door while he's inside?
No.
Why?
It's degrading for me standing outside here.
It's degraded right now.
I've just toileted myself in the undercarriage.
Why are you going there?
Don't you find... I mean, why do you stand here?
David Bowie, do you understand?
You're the news!
You're there!
He's important!
You lunatic!
Amazing, amazing.
Here, also this week, but they're from 1996.
This is fantastic.
Remember, you know Putin?
You think, oh, this guy's pretty shady, dodgy.
Don't want him in charge of an entire country.
Leading us to the brink of a global world war, particularly with the incentive to legitimize military action that NATO's actions and the military-industrial complex requirements have set in motion a chain of events that could lead to the apocalypse.
Well, at least we don't have Boris Yeltsin in charge, because that guy was edgy as hell.
He's like sort of a polar bear Father Christmas mad drunk uncle tyrant.
Have a look at him.
This is him campaigning, isn't it, for an election that he would win by 10 million votes.
Boris Nikolayevich is waiting for you.
I came to you with the plane when I found out you were here.
Have a good day!
I saw off quite mild, but he's using his hips quite a lot and that's just a taste of what's to come, isn't it?
I'm going to go get a drink of water.
you Like, he's a baby that's been made into an adult by a magic spell.
That's right.
You know what I mean?
Like, he was a baby one minute, and then went, adult!
And you're like, oh, fucking hell!
All I've got downstairs is a dickie bird!
Like he's suddenly, sexuality's just been launched in that moment.
🎵 It's not a dance move.
No, there's a bit of me that's like, are we being culturally insensitive?
Are these like national moves?
I think so, they haven't done it.
They're not, are they?
This has just come out of his brain.
It's just made that up out of his brain.
I don't think he's ever done that before.
I don't think that's like a cultural tradition or even a personal tradition.
I think it's made up on the spot.
I'm going to do this now.
He'll never do it again.
That was a magical moment, like a very particular sunrise that you'll never ever see again anyway.
Out now, see you later guys!
Vote for me!
Democracy everyone!
That's it.
There you go, that's democracy.
Hey listen, so what are we going to do to end the show?
We won't show our Rachel Maddow thing.
Should we put it up?
We'll just post that.
Listen, our brilliant Rachel Maddow piece.
Remember, I don't dislike Rachel Maddow.
I think she's a lovely person, but this turning up at this military industrial complex... Are you getting paid by Lockheed Martin as well?
Oh God, I almost forgot to mention.
If you're actually out to get some missiles or something...
Lockie Martin, do some pretty good... Say you want to blow up like a wedding in Afghanistan and some terrorists, just bomb them both.
Bomb the lot of them.
You never know.
It's very difficult to tell a bride from a terrorist on some days.
And a bride could be a terrorist.
Same person.
Anyway, Lockheed Martin, very reliable missiles.
The Rachel Maddow video will be up in a sec.
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We'll play the Rachel Maddow Lockheed Martin Military Industrial Complex thing on tomorrow's show!
We're talking to Tulsi Gabbard, politician, commentator, former presidential candidate.
I'm really excited to see Tulsi Gabbard.
You know, she's got one of them, like, silver streaks that superheroes have now.
You know, she's got a silver streak.
Will I ask her about it?
Probably, after your FBI interview, yeah.
Silver streak there I see, Tulsi.
Nice.
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