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April 3, 2023 - Stay Free - Russel Brand
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TRUMP TO JAIL?!?! | Countdown To ARREST Starts Here - #104 - Stay Free With Russell Brand
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I'm going back to the city to get you a new job and I'll be back to you.
Every day I stay up all night, I'm a black man and I could never be a veteran.
I'm listening to my heart and I know I'm gonna hold you.
So I'm looking for the steel.
Looking for the steel.
video you're going to see the future.
In this video, you're going to see the future.
Hello, you awakening wonders!
What glorious show is ahead of you if you stay with us.
Wherever you're watching, we only do the whole show in its entirety, unexpurgated on Rumble.
If you're watching us on YouTube, click over to there around the 20-minute mark, because that's when we start really kicking into some serious news and some heavy, heavy truths.
Trump arrest!
Trump arrest!
It's all part of the spectacle.
Trump arrest!
Trump arrest!
They've got justice by its testicles!
That's what's happening!
Is Trump's arrest just part of the meaningless distraction that prevents us from forever addressing systemic corruption?
Or is Trump a new martyr?
A new martyr that if allowed to rise, Phoenix Light would rescue us all.
Let us know in the chat what you think about that because we'll be responding to your questions, particularly from a member of our locals community.
We'll be chatting to you In there, we've got some fantastic guests coming on.
We've got Brianna Joy Gray, who was Bernie's former press secretary.
What I'm going to ask her about, Gareth, on-screen assistant, is I'm going to ask her, do you think that there was a sort of an emergent rise in populism around 2016, you know, when Bernie was running to be the Democrat leader, when Trump was on the rise, that the Democrat Party decided to crush within its own ranks and to double down on centralised authoritarianism And that we could have a different type of politics.
Did you know this?
I didn't know this.
One in eight Bernie Sanders voters migrated to Trump.
Some of them just sat perfectly still.
They did nothing.
However shocked you think you are by Trump's impending arrest, you are not as shocked as Fox.
Look.
We have just gotten word, former President Donald Trump has been indicted.
What was that gasp?
I thought I heard, and then I thought I heard the S-H-I-T word, and then I thought I heard, mmm.
A lot of reactions in the background.
That sounded almost, I would say, climactic.
I don't even know what emotion that's conveying.
Let's have a look at how it was conveyed elsewhere on the mainstream media.
After all, part of our function on this show as well as building a movement to meaningfully respond to systemic corruption is to Analyse mainstream media reporting to see what tropes and tricks they get up to.
We're going to be talking about more than whether or not these charges are, you know, trumped up, whether or not it's a misdemeanor that's being turned into a felony.
We're going to be talking about more than whether the Steele dossier that was funded by legal fees by the Democrat Party or campaign funds, you know, for legal fees, making it a highly comparable case.
We're going to be talking about more than just the minutiae.
We're going to be talking about the philosophical We don't care here on Stay Free with Russell Brand whether you love or loathe Trump.
We believe in your right to freedom.
We believe in decentralized power.
How come the mainstream media and the Democrats can't get beyond Trump?
How come they're not yet willing to address the problems that led to Trump's rise?
We don't care here on Stay Free with Russell Brand whether you love or loathe Trump.
We believe in your right to freedom.
We believe in decentralised power.
We believe in your right to live freely as who you are, whoever you are, wherever you
are and that Trump and his immense juggernaut of power that he has generated is being resourced
We're going to be looking at some of his propaganda materials and much of the propaganda material used to bring him down.
We're going to be citing Michel Foucault, Noam Chomsky.
We're going to be having a hell of a time and still a little bit of time for winky jokes.
That's what we call them in our country, as well as looking at the rise in inequality that leads to these kind of political movements.
But before any of that, let's have a look at the mainstream media.
And if you're watching us on YouTube, remember to click over to Rumble eventually because we're going to do a There's a bit of British reporting on AstraZeneca that just makes you sigh.
It makes you sigh with the recognition that the whole time you were right and that what was revealed about power during that period of time is still playing out and it's still not being addressed.
But first let's have a look at the mainstream media reporting on this story.
Tonight, security in New York City is ramping up.
Less than 24 hours from now, Mr. Trump is expected to depart Mar-a-Lago, arriving at LaGuardia Airport before his historic and unprecedented court appearance in Lower Manhattan.
Really making it, what, grandiose?
Historic!
Unprecedented!
Unprecedented is a word you're hearing a lot at the moment.
They love it, the press, don't they?
What's not unprecedented is the use of the word unprecedented.
There's a strong precedent for that.
They keep on saying it, don't they?
This is what most people think, I suppose, is when you know that it's ultimately, or at least initially, a misdemeanor to spend campaign funds in that way.
It's like shady, isn't it?
But they're trying to escalate it to a felony.
It also feels like this can't be.
The genuine energy behind this, can it?
It can't be.
Oh, what?
What's happened?
They spent campaign funds for hush money for Stormy Daniels.
Is it Stormy Daniels or Stormzy Daniels?
Stormzy, the UK grime artist.
That would be a much better story, let me tell you.
It's not genuine concern about illegitimate action, is it?
It's obviously an attempt to derail Trump's ongoing successful campaign where, astonishingly, he's up to 30 points ahead of Ron DeSantis.
In spite of Ron DeSantis becoming something of a darling of the post-Tea Party territory that Trump emerged from, What we consider to be an interesting aspect of this is, of course, the inadvertent martyrdom of Donald Trump.
Your own Ralph Waldo Emerson said, The martyr cannot be dishonoured.
Every lash inflicted is a tongue of fame.
Every prison a more illustrious abode.
Let's see how the mainstream continue to martyr Donald Trump.
On Tuesday, Mr. Trump will spend the night at his Trump Tower apartment, already protected by Secret Service and an enhanced NYPD detail.
Along busy 5th Avenue, barricades have been set up as far as the eye can see.
As far as the eye can see?
That's an exaggeration.
Are they still going beyond where even the eye can see?
We just will never know.
If only we had some kind of magnifying device, the kind of magnifying device that I use when reporting on this story that makes everything seem much worse and much more important than it is.
Actually is.
Look at these people dressed in white with bag straps over their shoulder.
in with tourists that are flocking to the globe.
This is brilliant, isn't it?
Around the globe.
Yes, the news.
I mean, it is interesting.
Also, it's just people are flocking, but that could also just be people going shopping.
Look at these people dressed in white with bag straps over their shoulder.
One woman so astonished by Trump's impending arrest, she put a hat on.
The region, the police presence here also only expected to grow in the coming hours.
A carefully coordinated presence only expected to grow.
So it's like everything is about the amplification of the story.
We talk a lot about the spectacle that is generated by the media, don't we?
And it's in evidence here, this is something we can talk to Joy Brianna Gray about, is that both sides are participating in the creation of a spectacle that prevents meaningful democracy or the redistribution of power ever taking place.
We're not even talking about the redistribution of wealth, we're talking about the redistribution of power, the ability for you to control and run your own
life.
You'll love this quote by John Baudrillard, and if you've heard of Baudrillard at all,
I don't want to be presumptuous, you might have heard of him because he inspired the
Matrix and all that sort of stuff, although he somewhat disavowed that.
Check this out when thinking about that hysteria and hyperbole that you've just witnessed in
that news report.
Baudrillard says, silence is banished from our screens.
It has no place in communication.
Media images and media text resemble media images in every way.
Never fall silent.
Images and messages must follow one another without interruption.
But silence is exactly that blip in the circuitry, that minor catastrophe, that slip which on television, for instance, becomes highly meaningful.
A break laden now with anxiety, now with jubilation, which confirms the fact that all this communication is basically nothing but a rigid script An uninterrupted fiction designed to free us not only from the void of the television screen but equally from the void of our own mental screen whose images we wait on with the same fascination.
That there is no time for reflection.
There is no time to feel.
That you are continually deluged with imagery and distraction and with hysteria.
The ongoing carnival around Trump.
It's been oft said that since 2016 Even the ongoing condemnation of him on outlets like MSNBC and CNN and all of the fake news media that he would disavow amplified his success, benefited him as much as it benefited them.
In a sense, they are in an ongoing pact.
Trump and those that decry him.
They require him, he requires them.
I know loads of you think that Trump is the anti-hero that he purports to be, and maybe he yet will be, but we do have a four year term in office by which to evaluate the principles that he ran on and how they were executed.
Let us know in the comments if you think Trump is the real deal.
Let us know if you think that anyone could make a difference within a system as corrupt as this one.
Certainly much of his rhetoric is potent and powerful.
We'll have a look at this, a bit more of this mainstream propaganda that's, you know, plainly anti-Trump.
Then we'll look at Donald Trump's response video and you'll see how he's just so masterful at managing his side of the narrative.
Let's look at the mainstream propaganda.
Coordinated security effort by the NYPD, court officers, US Marshals, and the Secret Service.
What are we giving badges for?
Stickers.
Oh, actually, I like that.
Like, did you have a sticker album as a kid?
Panini?
Silver foil ones?
Delightful.
Commute from Trump Tower down to the courthouse in Lower Manhattan.
It's about a four-mile drive.
Secret service.
Bloody enthusiastically skis, isn't he?
Every single aspect.
What's this about the journey that Trump will go on?
Yeah.
To the courthouse.
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Showing like, oh that's a good route.
No, I think you should probably drop down there, mate.
Use Broadway.
That's ridiculous.
Motorcade expected to lead the way.
Visible will be nearly 35,000 NYPD officers ordered to be in uniform.
They're amplifying it!
35,000?
That's an army!
There shouldn't be 35,000!
Haven't they sacked them all for not taking their vaccinations?
Right, come back in!
We've got a new propaganda campaign in town!
That's very interesting because when you think about how January 6th has been reported on wherever you stand on that issue, whether you think of it as a demonstration or an insurrection, It's becoming increasingly plain that this sectarianism within United States politics and media is beneficial to centralised power.
I feel, and have felt for a long time, that you should find people that you politically or culturally disagree with and be really, really nice to them and give them a big cuddle.
That way perhaps we can form new and meaningful alliances against this kind of hysterical propaganda.
Although I will say, the mainstream media reporter He's so enthusiastic about it, I'm starting to like him.
And they're not all bad in the mainstream media.
We've got a mainstream media journalist coming on later because we saw him respond to those riots in France.
He was so brave.
He was standing in the middle of a riot, doing his best.
We could only assume he was Australian.
And it turned out he actually was.
He'll be on the show a little bit later.
Only an Australian would be so brave in the face of such violence.
And ready for deployment starting at 7am Tuesday.
You see the preparations being laid out here.
That's what it is, is nothing's happened.
No, it's nothing's happened.
It's like, at this moment, it's like a royal wedding in our country.
Yes, it is like a royal wedding.
It's ceremony.
Yeah.
It's ceremony.
Do you think that?
Let us know in the chat and the comments.
It's being treated like a ceremony, that you have to inflate the egregiousness and seriousness and the severity of Trump as a character in order to justify it.
And it is even, it's got some of the same, a very good observation, Gareth, it's got some of the same paraphernalia, the crash barriers, the reports, the punditry.
The crowds.
What will he do?
What will he wear?
Some crowd are already gathering!
It turns out that a lot of people were wearing the same dresses that Disney princesses are wearing in some weird coincidence.
That was at William and Kate's wedding.
Ah, I see.
Yeah, some of the people were wearing dresses that Disney characters were wearing.
In fact, it's one of the things that made me believe in conspiracy theories, which I don't, because I insist on using facts and highfalutin quotes to tell news stories.
But if you look at the number of people at the Royal Wedding that were wearing Disney princess dresses, you'll go, is this real?
Like, you know, when you see, like, the Simpsons predict stuff.
You know, the Simpsons predicted Trump and all that kind of stuff.
They're always predicting things on The Simpsons.
That's what they do.
No, I know.
Yeah.
And comedy and stuff.
That's mostly the predictions.
Just predictions, really.
So this is like the royal wedding.
It's a ceremony.
It's like, in a sense, it's about, from their perspective, the bringing down of the tyrant.
From the other perspective, the creation of a martyr.
Certainly Trump's rhetoric is powerfully anti-establishment.
Should we watch a bit more of this?
I mean, every frame of it's enjoyable.
Are you enjoying it?
I'm enjoying it.
I really want to see Trump's response.
Do you want to see Trump's response?
Let us know in the chat.
I'll do what you tell us in the chat, especially if you're on locals.
Click on that, join our members community.
For blocks around, in terms of barriers, barrier trucks, and increased enforcement that's only going to ratchet up in the days to come.
Everyone's been told, make this sound as bad as possible, like the people involved in the legislation and the prosecution.
Make this sound as bad as possible.
If it is really, really serious, this hush money to Stormy Daniels and the misuse of campaign funds, then I'll tell you, the Democrat Party ain't going to look good, because you know they're up to all that kind of gear.
Allegedly!
I don't have any evidence of that, so I'd better press allegedly.
Come Tuesday afternoon, the courthouse here in Lower Manhattan is expected to be the epicenter of this historic indictment.
The road's open now, but expect this area to be shut down and under heavy security.
Once through the doors at One Hogan Place, the former president expected to...
Here he comes.
How did he even get in there?
He's defying gravity.
Everything.
The use of the word epicentre.
God, Gareth, we could spend all day with you.
This is an amazing piece of reporting because, at worst, what is happening is Trump used campaign money to pay hush money.
What about all the Hunter Biden stuff?
What about Hunter Biden's connections?
Hunter Biden's not being prosecuted.
Say someone who I respect, like Jon Stewart, he would say, the law is the law.
But if the law is the law, then you've got to apply it to everyone.
And beyond these kind of misdemeanors being amplified into felonies, what about international criminal courts prosecuting war criminals?
If there really was something called justice, you would have to totally dismantle all of these systems.
So what you can have instead is the facsimile of justice, the performance of justice, the rhetoric of justice.
And this theatricality plays, I believe, into both sides.
The Democrat Party and the centralist establishment have made a calculated gamble that this is ultimately going to work for them.
They must know the risks that this is.
going to create a martyr in Trump, that this is going to amplify his voice, that this plays into
his narrative, that this allows for the creation of like amazing videos of Trump standing in the
rain like Batman fighting against evil and injustice. They must know all that and they're
doing it anyway. So I guess or are they just idiots? Do you sometimes think we give them too
much credit? Yeah I think so. Yeah we do, they are idiots.
The floor!
That's unnecessary detail.
That's hyperbole on every level.
We are right, don't you sometimes, because like, you know, sometimes I get called like a far, far right.
Frequently now.
I'm always getting called far, far right.
And like far, far right for me, that's actual Nazis, that.
Far, far right is not conservative or Republican or Tea Party or Libertarian.
That's like you've gone out, you've got some tattoos, you've got an outfit.
I hate some of the world's most vulgar, definitely boots gal.
Boots day one.
Actually you could sneak them into your wardrobe when you're still claiming to be a liberal.
Oh are you wearing them?
I don't know.
But far far right, that's too far.
Far far right.
Oh yeah.
I'm against.
I'm against.
Far right, actually.
I think that the vulnerable people of the world must learn to love one another.
That we should be looking to form new kinds of alliance and that you should be able to express yourself culturally and sexually in a consensual context however you want to.
Other people's religion is none of your business.
Other people's racial identity is irrelevant.
That we must all come together and confront centralised power.
I think most people think that.
I think most people think that we must come together now and form new alliances.
Let's start creating polls.
Let's start creating a movement.
Let's start using our membership forum to poll people, to get their information, to create a new manifesto.
Not where I'm going to try and run for government or anything like that, but where we will support selected candidates.
I guess that's what his point now, isn't it?
And a lot of the kind of, I guess you could call it propaganda or whatever's coming out, is that he's saying that there's now the establishment and the anti-establishment, and what he represents is the anti-establishment.
And that's, as we kind of know, Well, he sort of does.
That's difficult to deny, even using Martin Guri, the revolt of the public's analysis, that the terms left and right are irrelevant now.
Now what you have is the centre and the periphery.
And he is a peripheral figure, which seems somewhat ludicrous because he's a billionaire tycoon.
But rhetorically, he is that.
Rhetorically, he has the ability to say things like they're not going to do anything because they're all tied up with big pharma, big business corporations.
He's able to say that.
But later in the show, please, God, if we have time, if this mainstream media clip doesn't keep yielding so much content, we'll be Looking at some of the things that happened under Obama's presidency, Biden's presidency, and Trump's presidency, and you'll be astonished to learn that all of those administrations benefited the ultra-rich, benefited the elites.
That's not about them as individuals.
Forget them as individuals.
Systemic corruption will not permit the kind of radical change that's required to decentralize power.
Forget redistribution of wealth.
Think of redistribution of power, so that you have power in your own life, so you have meaning in your own life, so that who you are can be freely expressed within reason.
Why do you need an image for fingerprints and handcuffs?
This is the most overproduced thing I've ever seen.
It's like the opposite of how we do shows.
Me, please, will you look at these papers?
No, I'm not.
I'm looking out the window.
It's blue belt season.
This thing, there's an image for... I don't know what a handcuff looks like!
These words, like, unexpected, uncertain, like, things that they just, basically, we don't know.
We don't know!
There's some crash barriers out, there's going to be a trial, they're making it sound worse than it is because they want to bring down Trump as an opponent rather than address the problems that led to Trump in the first place, systemic corruption, a Democrat party that's been hollowed out and supports corporate elites, they're not going to do anything about that because they can't do anything about that because of the way they're funded, so they're going to keep He's banging on about Trump the whole time, even though they know that that elevates and amplifies his message.
They've made the calculated risk that they're going to be able to somehow get through this, either by incarcerating him or making it unacceptable for him to run.
So that's the way they're rolling the dice.
They're certainly not going to do anything about Big Pharma, certainly not going to do anything about lobbying, certainly not going to do anything about insider trading, certainly not going to bring about a peace deal in the war between Russia and Ukraine while the military-industrial complex continues to benefit.
All those things are off the table, so I guess what we're left with is theatre and spectacle. So the division shouldn't be between
people that think Donald Trump is the answer and people that think that
Donald Trump isn't the answer. We should find a new accord, a new agreement. Those
of us that think that centralist politics is utterly corrupt and will never
deliver anything more than further corruption.
To fly out of New York and return to Mar-a-Lago.
I have to see one more helicopter shot of Mar-a-Lago.
I'm gonna go there on a golfing holiday.
I mean, it just looks like a trip.
What a treat.
No wonder he's going back there.
I can't wait.
I'll be in that pool.
Is it a holiday resort?
Or is it just his house?
That can't be his house.
I've seen it on the news so many times.
If it's his house, he wouldn't have that car park.
It's an holiday parking lot.
I'd go.
It looks absolutely delightful.
Is that where you're going next?
Going to Mar-a-Lago.
Going far, far right, buddies.
Going to Mar-a-Lago.
Cutting off a moment as much momentous as it is pure spectacle.
Admitted it!
Literally admitted it.
In fact, we're exaggerating this right now.
This is something obviously that the whole world is going to be watching.
George joins us now from outside.
More George!
George, have you not said everything you've got to say on this subject, you lunatic?
Let's see.
Shall we have a look at what Donald... Donald... That's the guy.
What he said in Ranunia.
That's him.
That's him.
I've seen him before somewhere.
Doesn't he own a big tower with his name written on it?
Mr. Donald Trump!
That's the guy.
Yeah, he much more efficiently conveys a message.
You've probably seen this before.
I think the very best bit is when he says, and if you can't afford campaign funds, do not send anything.
That bit, I nearly cried.
You keep that for you and your family.
Joe Biden's wasted all your money.
You're going to need it.
Those of you that are rich, that's thanks to me that you're rich and brilliant decisions are.
But how can you say that so close to each other?
It's such an incredible manipulation.
And I'm not saying that pejoratively.
What a brilliant piece of oratory.
What an excellent understanding of the situation.
My only reservation is, I don't think that... Forget the moral evaluation of Donald Trump as an individual.
I don't care how extreme you are.
You might think he's Jesus reincarnated.
You might think he is Satan embodied.
What I'm saying is, unless there is meaningful systemic change, no one can make any difference.
Focus on that.
Focus on that, not the hysteria, not the spectacle.
Oh yeah, hold on a minute.
The Republican Party is still going to be funded in that way.
Joe Biden is like doing speeches from inside the White House going, I'm doing my best to stand up to Big Pharma.
You're the president, for God's sake.
Plainly, the system is so turgid, so intransigent, that meaningful change cannot be enacted using its machinery.
Let's have a look at Donald Trump, though.
Let's look at a true master orator at work.
We are now officially a third world country.
Is it?
Because officially, there's like someone that officiates that.
Okay, America, third world country now.
It's not a league, is it?
It's not the Major League Baseball.
It's not the NFL.
I'm afraid you've just been relegated now into third world.
Do you think we can get up to second world if you make everywhere a bit more like Mar-a-Lago?
No president in the history of our country has been subjected to such vicious and disgusting attacks.
I can think of at least two that got shot in the head!
What about that geezer that got shot in the head when he was driving through that?
Not his bad.
Not his bad.
Not nearly as bad.
What about Jackie Onassis trying to put him back together like a sort of a human jigsaw?
Wasn't that worse?
What about Abraham Lincoln who was shot in the back of the head whilst trying to have a pleasant night out?
Those are a bit worse.
I don't know.
Let me know in the chat.
Let me know in the comments.
But they only attack me because I fight for you.
That's populism.
They only attack me because I fight for you.
Now I want to see though some policies there.
Because there are things like meaningful capping of drug prices, not the kind of crafty drug
capping, meaningful on environmental issues rather than when a train crashes and spills
chemicals everywhere basically doing nothing about it, shutting down insider trading, ensuring
that neither political party can receive donations from big corporations.
Wouldn't it be amazing?
The release of Julian Assange.
Like, what about that?
What about that?
Doing things that are radically anti-establishment.
See?
That's what I want.
Let me know.
I just want to know.
And you know, a lot of you have certain views on the pandemic, the lockdowns and medications.
You know where Trump is at.
Beautiful vaccine.
Beautiful vaccine.
And you've got to incorporate all the information.
I'm not telling you what to think.
It's not my job.
I don't think I'm cleverer than you.
I know that I'm not.
I just want to make sure that we don't fall into a kind of an emotional momentum that hasn't been well-evaluated.
Simple.
They can't buy me and they can't control.
I've just... Gareth, I've got to stop this now.
He's just begun.
Bro, let's do this like that guy in Main Street.
We can officially confirm Donald Trump has begun his journey from Florida to New York.
Well, he could be sat in a plane seat now.
He could be sitting with it back or up.
Do you think that he's got the headrest up?
Do you think he's got, like, an Andy McCasa on the back of his hair oil?
He's begun the journey from Florida.
Snacks, maybe?
Yeah, I can see that.
I reckon Donald Trump's... You know some people eat like... Well, speculate then.
Alright.
I imagine that he's probably having a snack now and probably eating it in that sort of cocky way that some people eat nuts and carry on talking to you.
Sort of like this kind of thing.
Hey, what you doing?
And they sort of like maybe drop a nut like... Like as if they've got a tic-tac dispenser using their own little fist as a tic-tac dispenser.
Yeah, he's probably using his fist as a tic-tac dispenser right now on the plane.
Yeah, good.
Speculating.
You could do that.
I could do that.
I can speculate.
I can just say stuff that might be happening.
Can we see him?
Is there mainstream media coverage of it?
Can we see like, is there, I bet someone, there's there's a shot somewhere of a Donald Trump getting on an airport, on an airplane going up some stairs.
And will he be able to get all the way up them?
Unlike the current incumbent of the White House, that poor old doddering staggering sod, always looking like he's gonna get blown over by a propeller at any moment.
Yeah, see if we can get, we'll carry on watching Trump's thing, but we'll say, we're going to get you now live footage of Donald Trump going up some stairs or walking across some asphalt.
Look at that.
Someone says on our chat, Barry John Fox says he's drinking a milkshake watching a Stormy Daniels video.
Oh, I don't think so.
Too soon.
Is that a milkshake?
And what shook that milk, baby?
And that scares them beyond belief.
Beyond belief!
Beyond it!
This is where belief gets you.
Well, it's beyond that.
Belief can't go that far.
At the very beginning I've shunned the globalist special interest owners who have made a fortune
off of destroying our country.
That's something that could be checked.
Has he shunned the globalist special interest donors?
Because that'd be good if he has.
Can we check that?
Has he?
I mean, if he has, I mean, look, I could be persuaded.
I'm persuadable.
I'm nothing if not persuadable.
Hold on a minute.
There are only a certain amount of resources that we've got, and this is breaking news.
If you're watching us on YouTube now, you've got to flick over to Rumble Books.
We are going live to Fox News.
We're going to use their coverage.
What the hell?
We'll hijack it.
Look at this.
This is Fox News now.
There he is.
He's travelling by car.
I mean, it's like OJ, isn't it?
It's so exciting.
He's going to the... That's simply a man going to an airport, but it's really dramatic.
And there is even, if we see a white bronco in there, that's really going to lift the whole tone of it.
Can we hear their, what are they saying?
Can we hear their audio?
We showcased so many different types of rallies and speeches of Donald Trump and this one is entirely different as now we are taking skybox camera footage of his motorcade taking him This is like a spectacle, and a magnificent spectacle.
Guy Debord, who wrote The Society of the Spectacle, talks about terrorism and who is a judge to be a terrorist.
The portrayal here is of villainy.
This is like, you know, those of us that are my age, and that would have to include me, No, that helicopter shot of a motorcade evokes but one image.
OJ Simpson on the run.
The beginning of Trump the criminal has begun.
It's interesting though, because both sides can make those claims.
Of course, one of Trump's most successful maxims was, you know, crookie at Hillary and
the whole lock her up tirade.
But now what we're seeing is Donald Trump recast as criminal.
But even that may escalate and amplify his power.
Guy Debord, the story of terrorism is written by the state and is therefore highly instructive.
Compared with terrorism, everything else must be acceptable or in any case more rational
and more democratic.
So ultimately what's being claimed here is that Trump is especially criminal, more criminal
than your everyday politician, more criminal than crooked Hillary, more criminal than the
Biden family.
Now like these are not claims that I'm making.
I'm talking about what we all understand now through the Twitter files, for example, about
deep state intervention and censorship of public information, including the censorship
of truthful information.
We're talking about a state that is able to, without consciousness or without conscience,
lock up Julian Assange while still declaring that the imprisonment and indeed was it murder
of a Washington Post journalist is somehow unconscionable.
So we're talking about who has the power to criminalise, who has the power to murder, who has the power to declare war.
And I feel that ultimately this spectacle, this is exactly what I thought it would be.
Can we show in this feed the ticker tape?
It's glorious, but where is the silence?
Where is the moment of reflection?
Where is the moment of personal awakening?
We've got a presentation on Donald Trump, but I think I'd like to stay with this a bit longer.
What do you think, Gareth?
I feel pretty confident in all this stuff.
What's so interesting about all this is, you know, we've spoken about the similarities and corollaries to the Hillary Clinton case with regard to Russiagate and the Steele dossier, but what we don't talk about maybe is about The law and when you're talking about what maybe Jon Stewart was saying or people on the left are saying, well, you've got to obey the law and everyone's got, you know, that's why Trump deserves this.
But like when we know things about, for example, and we've talked about it so much, but about senators and Congress people owning stocks and shares in the companies that they regulate, we know that they're making millions and millions of dollars.
Yeah. In what is presumed or what is apparently legal.
Now, should that be legal? No, it shouldn't.
So when you're talking about the law, yes, fine.
OK, if he's guilty of this and it's only him that's guilty of this
and the Democrats aren't guilty of anything, then maybe he deserves it.
But there are things going on that should be prosecuted.
I mean, I think that is Guy Debord's point about terrorism, Gareth, who is legitimized in doing that.
And look at that, they've arranged it like he's being given a hero's departure.
There are flags, there are cars pulled over.
You know, Trump understands narrative.
Trump understands spectacle, at least as well as they do.
So this is sort of like a war being fought in the world of propaganda, I would say.
Soren Kierkegaard, one of the fathers of existentialism, says, The tyrant dies and his rule is over.
The martyr dies and his rule begins.
What they are at risk of doing, even while condemning Trump, is creating a new chapter in his mythology.
Because the simple fact is, they cannot attack truthfully, authentically, or in good faith.
Let's have a look now at some statistics around wealth inequality.
We'll leave that magnificent and soon-to-become iconic shot of Trump's departure to his own arraignment.
The richest 1% make 84 times as much as the bottom 20% in the US average income before taxes and public assistance by Household Income Group in 2019.
Just have a look at that little graph that shows you how wealth inequality in the country of the United States plays out.
Average incomes for the richest Americans have skyrocketed.
You know that during that pandemic period, it was beneficial for the most powerful interests in society, big tech, big pharma, big government.
Detrimental, not just for the poorest Americans, but for ordinary Americans, for ordinary business people.
Look at the last three administrations in the United States of America, and in a sense, we are all part of the United States of America now, unless we are in Stalingrad or Beijing.
Under Obama, Obama admits 95% of income gains go to the top 1%, that's in 2013.
Trump, in 2020, the top 1% of Americans have taken $50 trillion from the bottom 90%.
in 2020. The top 1% of Americans have taken 50 trillion from the bottom, 90% Biden in 2022.
The 10 richest men double their fortunes in the pandemic while the incomes of 99% of humanity fall.
Look at those facts.
Look at the bigger picture.
And if you think we couldn't hit you with any more facts on this special day, let's turn to Professor Noam Chomsky.
We're talking about distraction.
And this is what I believe this is.
And I respect your opinion.
If you believe that Trump is the answer, then I'm glad that you found your saviour.
And maybe at some point I'll get on board.
But, you know, there you go.
Have a look at that statistic.
Top 1% of Americans took 50 trillion from the bottom 90%.
Listen to this from Tromsky on the strategy of distraction.
The primary element of social control is the strategy of distraction, which is to divert public attention from important issues and changes determined by the political and economic elites, Gareth was just talking about people in Congress owning stocks and shares in companies they're supposed to regulate, by the technique of flood or flooding, continuous distractions and insignificant information.
Distraction strategy is also essential to prevent the public interest in the essential knowledge in the area of the science, economics, psychology, neurobiology and
cybernetics.
All information that we could call that the hermeneutics of the powerful there.
Information that's kept only to them.
Maintaining public attention, diverted away from the real social problems,
captivated by matters of no real importance, keep the public busy.
Busy, busy, busy.
No time to think, back to farm and other animals.
That's extraordinary from Tromsky, because whatever you think about Trump,
you have to recognize that both sides are benefiting from this spectacle.
Then, look at this.
I thought this phrase, this is astonishing to me.
Let me know in the chat and the comments where you thought this originated from.
I thought this was from someone like David Icke or Alex Jones.
It's actually from Noam Chomsky.
Create problems, then offer solutions.
This method is also called problem reaction solution.
Cast your mind back for a couple of years now, and this is not conspiracy theory stuff that I'm declaring here.
This is just notice how events chronologically unfolded.
So, it creates a problem, a situation, referred to cause some reaction in the audience, could be a war, could be another kind of crisis, to create some reaction in the audience.
So this is the principle of the steps that you want to accept.
For example, let it unfold and intensify urban violence or arrange for bloody attacks in order that the public is the applicant's security.
is the applicant's security, laws and policies to the detriment of freedom, or create an economic
crisis to accept as a necessary evil retreat of social rights under dismantling of public services.
Lovely little 10-point plan on distraction by Professor Chomsky who is about as left-wing,
he's probably far far right, he'll probably be with me in Mar-a-Lago, Professor Noam Chomsky.
Dolphin holiday.
Should we have a look at Professor Noam Chomsky boarding a plane at his residence?
Here's Donald Trump ascending the stairs to the Air Force One of the anti-establishment elite.
Trump jet.
There he goes.
And he made it to the top.
Is he saluting?
He's waving.
Fantastic.
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we're going to be talking to Brianna Joy Gray, or Joy Brianna Gray, I should get her name
right, she's a guest on our show. Brianna Joy Gray, so Historic Day.
Tensions are high.
This is Trump-arrest-a-clock, baby.
We're going to be talking to her about the rise of populism and the inability of centralised, corrupt political organisations ever to address the needs of the American public and the global population.
Should we have a look at a... Earlier on today, we made an in-depth piece about the nature of the charges levelled at Trump and the level of ineptitude and corruption that led to his rise in the first place.
Here's the news.
No, here's the effing news.
Thank you for choosing Fox News.
Here's the news.
No, here's the fucking news.
Donald Trump is being arrested and indicted, but is there a real legal case against him that couldn't be applied to his
opponents?
And also, is more time being spent on trying to bring down Donald Trump than assessing the problems that led to his rise?
I know a lot of you love Donald Trump.
You see him as the representative of your anger, of anti-establishment rhetoric, of possibility for meaningful change.
My personal feeling is that during Trump's presidency, not enough changed to warrant his rise.
That's something we can continue to talk about in the chat.
I believe what's required is systemic change.
This particular case, and we'll get into the logistics of it to a degree in a moment because of course it's steel sealed and no one really knows exactly what's going on, seems comparable at least to the Democrats' funding of the Steele dossier through legal funding, if not exactly the same.
But isn't that what characterises our time?
That the differences between the two parties, the differences between their misdemeanours and their felonies is not significant enough And isn't Donald Trump, above all else, serving as a kind of distraction and focal point for democratic ire, rather than an opportunity to meaningfully change the systems that led to his rise in the first place?
We are coming on the air with historic news for the first time ever.
In a way they are still committing the sins they've always committed around Donald Trump.
Using hyperbole and excitement, even from the position of condemning Trump, they celebrate Trump.
Most likely, as many people have commented, that this case will increase Donald Trump's chances of success.
You can only imagine that his detractors know that and understand it and are willing to do it anyway.
I'm beginning to think that what Trump's primary function is in the media space is as a kind of magnet for attention in order that ordinary corruption and hypocrisy can continue.
Whether these charges are legitimate or not and whether or not this will amplify Trump's message and serve as a kind of martyrdom It's not what I'm primarily interested in.
What I'm interested in, and I believe you should be most interested in, is why is Trump still occupying the same cultural space that he has been occupying ever since he first stood for election?
He oddly represents anti-establishmentism.
He represents the voice of many dispossessed and angry Americans.
And even if you believe, like I do, that Trump isn't going to meaningfully address those problems, why are those problems not being addressed elsewhere?
First the historic indictment, now the political fallout.
President Biden deliberately avoiding the topic.
But Republicans tonight are slamming it as a Democratic DA trying to take out President Biden's top political opponent with a bogus legal case.
You already know that these legal charges are somewhat trumped up.
That it's a misdemeanor that's being conflated with a felony.
That there are comparable crimes, if indeed they are crimes, which I suppose we're saying that they are, Although the indictment is still sealed, every indication is that this case is extremely flimsy on the merits and especially shabby given the historic import of the first ever indictment of a former president.
to discredit Trump, which was similarly a misuse of campaign funds.
Although the indictment is still sealed, every indication is that this case is extremely
flimsy on the merits and especially shabby given the historic import of the first ever
indictment of a former president.
Hush payments may be sleazy, but they're legal.
The violation of the law in the Daniels payment may have been in how it was logged in the
Trump organisation accounts.
The payment was agreed to near the end of the 2016 campaign, and then Trump fixer Michael Cohen paid it with his own funds and Trump reimbursed him across 2017.
In the Trump Organization books, the payments were called legal expenses, suggesting they were for ongoing legal work.
This was dishonest, but at most is a misdemeanor.
The idea of going after a former president with all the political consequences involved on such a piddling charge was so self-evidently absurd that no minimally self-respecting prosecutor would do it.
So it sounds like something illegal happened, but something that is a minor misdemeanor is not likely the genuine motivation for all of this furore.
It seems that what's more likely the motivation is a desire to bring down Trump and the desire to bring down Trump has remained consistent.
Then there's the problem that the campaign finance offence would be a violation of federal and not state law and such a crime has never been prosecuted in New York.
There's also a question of whether the statute of limitations has expired on these supposed offences and on the credibility of the two star witnesses, confessed fraudster Michael Cohen and a porn star among other issues.
Whatever else is true about this case, it seems that it's not the kind of robust catch-all case that is required to bring down a figure like Trump without the accompanying risk that it turns him into a kind of political martyr.
And also what I feel like morally and ethically is you know and I know that the motivation behind all this is not Oh no!
A law's been violated!
We must do something about it!
What's actually happening is Trump continues to be a threat to centralised authoritarian politics, so he's having to be taken out of the game.
Whether you like Trump or don't like Trump, what you should be interested in addressing is the systemic problems that have led to his rise and the ongoing inability to address them.
What this case shows us, as well as the media reporting of it, is that the media needs Trump And the Democrat Party needs Donald Trump, precisely because they are unwilling to make the necessary legislative and political changes that would make Trump irrelevant.
From the beginning of his rise, Donald Trump has been able to say, this is a corrupt system, I stand between you and them, they don't want me, they want you, and I'm preventing them from getting you.
And this rhetoric remains incendiary and effective because no one is willing to make the kind of changes that would make Trump redundant.
If you could meaningfully change big pharma prices, I know a bill has been introduced but I also know that it's ultimately meaningless and doesn't go far enough.
If you did not have a Democrat party that was funded by the military-industrial complex, a financial industry that was in the thrall of Wall Street, then Donald Trump would not be such a powerful and effective opponent.
Donald Trump would become cut off at the knees if the Democrat party, or indeed the Republican party, or any political movement, was interested in, and committed to, representing the needs and requirements of ordinary working Americans.
It's the inability and lack of desire to address this that's led to Trump's rise, and it continues to fuel the Trump phenomena right now, when some people thought, oh this is over now, this is irrelevant.
The fact that he's polling higher than Ron DeSantis, the fact that his arrest is garnering so much attention, shows you that there's still an unaddressed need at the heart of our political systems.
That there is a requirement for a new kind of politics.
You know me, I don't personally believe that Trump is the answer.
I know a lot of you do.
But the problem is still not being addressed.
This is from Robert Reich and the Guardian, writing about the 2016 election campaign.
Trump convinced many blue collar workers, feeling ignored by Washington, that he was
their champion.
Clinton did not convince them that she was.
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Diva Dog Mum, most of Congress don't know how to speak or interact with the ordinary Americans, aka voters constituents who they're supposed to be representing, and they don't truly want to interact with them.
That's what the rise of populism is facilitated by, is this inability to engage in ordinary discourse, don't you think?
Do you agree with that, Gareth?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah.
I am pretty feminine, says Little Renegade.
I think she's talking about herself, or it could be me.
Hey, we're only on Rumble now, but the full presentation will be available on Rumble after the show.
We came off to speak to our guest today, who we're going to be, sorry about that, who we're going to be asking a variety of questions.
It's Brianna Joy Gray, host of The Hill and former press secretary to Bernie, Bernie Sanders.
Hey Brianna, thank you for joining us.
Thank you so much for having me.
Do you think that this ongoing carnival that surrounds Trump is an emblem of the ongoing inability to address the systemic problems that created Trump in the first place?
And will you tie into that a little, because of your personal experience and understanding of Bernie Sanders, how a centralist and establishment politics, in particular, in this case, obviously, the Democrat Party, Have a vested interest in crushing voices that resonate with ordinary people, whether or not you believe those voices to be legitimate and effective.
Look, I do believe there is a way to confront Trump to say, if you're someone who's invested in him not becoming president, to make sure that's a reality by occupying the space that he occupied so effectively in 2016.
The reason that Trump was able to be so effective was because there was in fact a void, a void of politicians who are willing to call up, call out the corruption of both our And although many on the left would say that Trump's critiques of corporate politics, of the swamp, etc., were made in bad faith and that his tenure in the White House proved that he didn't really have any real commitment to addressing some of the foundational policies he talked about on the campaign trail.
It is true that when he was campaigning in 2016, he was talking about things that were real vulnerabilities for Hillary Clinton, talking about things like trade deals that sent American jobs overseas, talking about how unseemly it was that Hillary Clinton had this close relationship with the banks.
And as a former colleague of mine, Nathan Robinson at Current Affairs Magazine pointed out in a really prescient article in early 2016, in some ways that was a perfect matchup.
Um, Hillary Clinton's vulnerabilities against Donald Trump's strengths and her also inability to hit him on his weaknesses because they were shared weaknesses.
And Bernie Sanders represented a version of Trump, somebody who, because he spent so many years as an independent operating outside of the Democratic Party, critiquing the Democratic Party and its excesses, someone who ran, was the only candidate who was running without taking any corporate donations, was really free to make the kind of arguments Trump was arguing.
and potentially actually land the punch when he was in office.
And that was a real threat to the Democratic Party.
And so you saw similar maneuvers to rig that primary and keep Bernie out of a general election
context like the ones that you're seeing right now, I think.
It seems like your analysis and the comparisons that you made are a demonstration of the requirement
for voices that are outside of the rigid and rigged centralist conventional political system.
If we discount the possibility that this case is really about upholding and protecting the law,
and I imagine that most of us don't believe that this is really about what...
You use campaign funds to pay hush money?
Stop this guy now!
If we agree that it's not really about that, it's about Stopping Trump, even though it risks amplifying and elevating Trump.
I'm talking about this from a neoliberal, centrist, Democrat perspective.
Then what is their strategy?
Is it that they would, in fact, rather face Trump than DeSantis?
Is it that they thought that the Republican Party would implode?
Why would they take this course of action, even though we can discount amending their own policies to be truly representative of all near Americans?
That's not an option.
They represent the corporate elite.
We know that now.
But why this particular strategy?
Yeah, I think it's genuinely confusing because I don't think it's strategically viable.
For one, there is an anticipated, anticipated charges coming out of Georgia, which I think are a much stronger case, a much more substantive case that have to do, it's expected that they will have to do with a call Donald Trump made to the Georgia Secretary of State asking him to change the election result.
I think it's a big mistake the Democratic Party has made to make so much of the focus of, you know, stop this deal in 2020 and 1-6 about the events that happened on 1-6 and the kind of optics and the kind of the visceral presentation of people, quote unquote, storming the Capitol, instead of what I think is much more substantive crime, which was the President of the United States trying to call around and lean on state elected officials to come up with fabricated Fake undemocratic election results.
That being said, so that's the one issue.
Why not wait for the Georgia case, which is more substantive than the New York case?
One answer to that that I've heard some people put forward is that the Attorney General Bragg basically is getting it from all sides in New York.
Progressives are very unhappy with him because of some tough on crime policies that aren't really geared toward lowering the crime rate in the state, but are punitive and trying to You know, it seems as a political effort to posture and gain more favorability among conservative voters.
At the same time, conservative voters don't like him because it's perceived to be, you know, progressive.
It really is something in the middle.
And that this is seen as a good political win for him because everybody in New York or so many people in New York hate Donald Trump.
So this could just be someone screwing the pooch on a local level for their local benefit, despite it having long-term negative implications for the Democratic Party.
Because we know that the Democrat Party have in the past financially supported MAGA candidates in order to intoxicate the electoral pool and elevate them to the forefront of the voters' minds, and indeed to make them the candidate going forward, it's impossible for us to approach an issue like this in good faith.
In a sense, Brianna, don't you think this demonstrates how, I mean, this literally spectacular contemporary politics has become, that we cannot take these events in good faith, that we have to examine them strategically from the perspective of, as you said, optics and propaganda, because ultimately
Neither, in my view, political party can be relied upon to meaningfully represent the people they were elected to, and they focus instead, with their allies in media, on creating more bifurcation and opposition, instead of genuinely focusing on improving the lives of ordinary Americans.
I think in some ways the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to make Americans believe that we live in a bifurcated country.
We, you know, we have open conversations right now, the elected politicians talking about some great separation that's going to happen and people are drawing maps carving up the United States of America as though all of us don't have relatives, you know, blue people don't have relatives that live in the red parts of the country and vice versa.
As though we don't have pockets of blue in states that go blue because of how dense cities are, but have many, many red people, you know, considered leading people in more rural areas.
I find that to be really anti-democratic and really anti-American and a problem, especially because the reality is that when you look at what American voters' priorities are and how they feel about various policies that have been put forward to address those issue areas, there is wide agreement.
So you have 7 out of 10 Americans supporting policies like Medicare for all.
You have 62 percent of Americans supporting a $15 minimum wage.
Florida, which went for Trump in 2020, had on its ballot a $15 minimum wage, which passed
with 60 percent of the vote, in red Trump country Florida.
Eighty-three percent of Americans want there to be negotiation over prescription drug prices
to bring those costs down.
And six out of 10 Americans want there to be less Pentagon spending, and on and on down
the line.
So there's really a path you can chart based on policy and meeting the needs of the American
people for anybody who wanted to win.
And I think that Donald Trump gave a lot of lip service to those needs, unfortunately didn't bring those to fruition and instead focused on a tax break, 83% of which, the benefit of which went to the top 1%, and other kinds of the same kind of crony capitalism that we're used to from establishment candidates.
But it is a lane that is very popular.
I think that's what happened with Bernie in 2016.
He simply ran in good faith on those policies as someone who could run in good faith in those policies, because again, he was the only one not taking corporate cash.
And I think that's so central to this.
Being free from that corporate influence allows you not to just run on these issues, but to stick the landing.
He was incredibly popular.
So when we hear so much about how divided the country is, and when we're, I think your Chomsky example
was so important in the earlier segment, when we're asked to focus, when so much of the news cycle
is on how people feel about something like a drag show, or whether or not a certain book can be banned,
people can have their different feelings about those kinds of things and choose to raise their
families and move through the world the way that they want to.
But why is it that when asked what your political priorities are,
none of that comes anywhere near the top, economic issues as they always have been are near the top.
And yet we get so little attention paid to those issues.
Well, it's because both corporate parties aren't willing to do anything about those issues
if they will negatively impact their corporate donors.
I think you're absolutely right, Brianna, and I feel sometimes that we are continually agitated into a kind of primal state where we're not able to correctly assess reality.
I was recently publicly called far-right.
Because I had conversations with people that operate in what you might call, once would have called, the conservative media space.
Explicitly what I was talking about in some of those conversations was this.
I asked this question to sort of a very conservative online broadcaster, namely Ben Shapiro, to not be opaque.
And I said, like, you are very traditional, orthodox Jewish guy.
It's pretty clear what your views are on abortion and stuff like that.
Would you be willing to stand on a platform based around decentralization and maximization of local democracy alongside people that were passionately pro-trans, passionately pro, for example, the BLM movement?
He said, yes, he would.
That he would be willing to form alliances of that nature.
Now, we can query whether or not that, you know, I tend to try to have good faith conversations with people not out of my credulity, although I'm sure that is a component, but out of my hope that it is possible to change the world.
That it's going to require, as you said in your example, where there are pockets of blue and red and vice versa, it's going to require new alliances, otherwise we're going to continue to occupy this jammed channel of cultural conflict when new alliances are possible.
So I think that Your contribution to the conversation in your last answer was important.
And how do you think we can continue to reframe arguments around the economic issues that are important to people?
And do you think it's possible for a new independent movement to be created?
Or do you, like I know a lot of people do, think that you can change the Democrat party from within or the Republican party from within, depending on your biases and alliances?
Or do you think you have to do all of those things simultaneously?
Well, to take the last part first, I am at this point quite skeptical of efforts to change the either party from within.
My focus is more on this idea.
As someone who works for Bernie Sanders, obviously running as a Democrat, despite identifying as an independent, I think in many ways he was The best possible candidate, the best possible moment to test whether or not you really could change things from within the Democratic Party, whether you could really infiltrate.
And what you saw, not just in 2016, when Democratic Party insiders admitted to the primary being rigged, people like Donna Brazile, and even Elizabeth Warren coming out and saying,
admitting that the DNC in its own legal briefing admitted that it did not feel like it needed to be impartial
in its own primary process, right?
And then in 2020, to have that confirmed when you saw a different strategy employed
wherein all of the other centrist candidates who were not able to singularly beat Bernie
in terms of voter share dropped out in tandem so that there could be a centrist coalescing against him
after he'd proven to be quite successful the first three or four primary states.
So, yes, I am very skeptical about that, and that is why I am really supportive of third-party efforts.
And the reason is this.
People focus in politics too much on whether someone is a good person or a bad person, a nice guy or a bad guy.
My critique of Trump, liberals will encourage you to critique Trump on the basis that he is crude or uncouth or, you know, mean and throwing toilet paper or paper towels at hurricane victims and, you know, those kinds of You're right.
And Joe Biden is supposed to be a nice guy who likes ice cream and loves his family and the Pope and that's supposed to mean something to me.
None of it means anything at all to me.
What I look at when I am looking to support a candidate, to the extent that I'm still invested in electoral politics, is whether they take money from corporate interest.
It is not an accident that Joe Biden won when he took more money from the pharmaceutical companies than anybody else in the Democratic primary.
It's not an accident that Joe Biden won and then immediately appointed a, as a senior advisor, Steve Reschetti, a former pharmaceutical lobbyist, and appointed as a secretary of defense, former head of Raytheon.
Like, these are not accidents.
This is pay for play.
And Joe Biden, in a weirdly candid moment, potentially a senior moment, admitted as much at some point on the campaign trail that, you know, when you pay, You're going to go to the front of the line.
It doesn't mean that I'm going to do whatever you want me to do, but of course you get access to the front of the line, and that's what politics is.
And if we want to have any hope of getting all of the things addressed that Americans prioritize, whether it's health care or a living wage or stronger labor protections or just shrinking military budgets and less military interventionism, you have to have candidates that aren't taking money from those interest groups, point blank, period.
Yeah, that's right.
In a way, it's the only question that matters, because if you can answer that question correctly, if you can get money out of politics, you will get meaningful systemic change.
Of course, both parties are ultimately sewn up by the same financial interest.
And of course, if you pay money, you do get to the front of the line, which is also the policy at Legoland, I happen to know, because once I was willing to pay it, and I still feel guilty about it, as a matter of fact.
Brianna's podcast, Bad Faith, drops every Monday and Thursday.
Brianna, why don't you come to the United Kingdom that we live in and do your podcast from the community festival that we do every year between July the 14th and July the 17th.
Do the podcast live from there and we'll talk about anti-corporate stuff.
I'd love to.
If that's an invitation, I'll look at flights.
We will pay for your flights because it's quite corrupt, but we will negotiate the class over the course of the coming weeks and months.
Brianna, thank you so much for joining us.
You can also see Brianna on the Hill every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
We'll be in touch about that booking.
Thank you so much.
It's been a real pleasure joining us.
What a fantastic conversation with Brianna that was.
Hey, listen, we do know that we do tonight.
We're doing an additional 15 minute conversation.
And guess who we've got?
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Look at him now.
Let's go live to him.
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He's probably drunk on Australian lager.
Isn't he?
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He's probably picked up chlamydia from a koala.
Hasn't he?
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That's what carries it.
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That's my story!
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I got it from a koala.
We've got the mainstream reporter that first came to our attention in this moment with his incredible bravery.
Before we say hello to Brett, and what else would he be called other than Bruce, coming from Australia, let's have a look at the moment where he first came to our attention.
Cue that clip.
If you didn't pick up that I was cuing that during that 30 second lead up to it.
Cue the clip.
Go on, darling.
Well done.
As chaos continues over the nation's planned pension reform, Time after time, police sending off baton chargers to try and force back the protesters.
We're very quick to criticise the mainstream media on this channel because usually they deserve it.
Let us know in the chat and the comments if you agree with us.
But that guy, well done!
Time after time.
Oops, sorry about that.
Time after time.
Ah, I might as well join in.
Fuck off you bloody French pigs, ferdos.
But I don't know what's French for pig, that's Spanish certainly.
If you fall, I will catch you.
I'll be waiting.
Time after time.
It's Brett from Australia.
Alright, Brett, you're one of the bravest men in the mainstream.
What the hell's going on, mate?
First of all, thank you for those wonderful comments about koalas and chlamydia.
I think the Australian Tourism Bureau is going to make use of that.
All I did, and I did what I'm sure dozens if not scores of other journalists have done during these protests.
I just went down to look at the protests.
I went with my cameraman, Matt Kent, and we've got a wonderful fixer in Paris, Ben, who's just, if we fall, he does catch us.
He's wonderful.
And I said, let's go down to Placidal Opera, where that night was the big general strike and where most of the concentration of the protesters and the police were, and to see what's going on.
So we got down there and you saw what happened.
I mean, that happened, I'm quoting myself, it did happen time after time.
There were many police charges and I learned that delicate cycle which goes on between the protesters and police which is the protesters for a long time standing around chatting smoking and then decide to up the ante in a way so they start throwing rocks at police and bits of timber and then the police line up and that's when you realize something else is about to happen and they start charging and there's no stopping it once they charge they keep moving you've got to jump out of the way
Well, you're going to be knocked aside or grabbed and a tear gas starts flying.
So again, it was just doing my job, which is go and see what happens.
Do you not worry, Brett, that if you spend too much time around those protesters, you might, like Laurence Fishburne in the film Deep Cover, get lured into it and yourself become a kind of French radical who opposes centralised neoliberal power and takes to the streets.
Have you not worried about that, Brett?
It was the first thing that occurred to me, but I have to say, I did have some great conversations.
Within that limited, tear-gassy environment, I did get to hear from young people.
And to be honest, it was mainly people around 20, sort of student age, who I spoke to about their concerns.
And again, that's what I like to do.
I think it's what most journalists want to do.
What were they saying, Brett?
What were they saying, these 20-year-old French people?
And how the hell did you understand them?
Because I know no one in Australia speaks French.
I had my wonderful fix of Ben.
And some people, being young students, do speak excellent English.
A lot of them were saying they felt it was unfair that this was being forced through by Emmanuel Macron by decree with that unusual wrinkle within the French Constitution which allowed him to bypass Parliament or the Assembly and allow this change, the retirement law, to go through.
I mean, to be honest, I come from a country where retirement is 67.
I live in London where retirement is about to become 67.
So I was curious about why in a country where you have to retire, where you can retire at 62, the fact that it's being raised to 64 was so controversial.
So I was only there a few days.
I'm no expert on this, but I just wanted to hear from them what they had to say.
And it was, of course, fascinating.
In a way, Ben is the real hero of the piece.
French Ben, who's fixing everything, he's translating, he's not even on camera, he's the wind beneath your wings.
And that's an appropriate metaphor, Brett, because it often happens to you, more than once, but once it was captured on camera, where your news reporting is so...
Charismatic and even erotic that you're literally attacked by the flying creatures of the sky.
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We've got a fantastic week coming up.
We've got Marianne Williamson coming up this week.
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So if you're watching us on Locals, we'll be back in a matter of seconds with Brett getting attacked by a bird.
A bird that I imagine might work for the Deep State, because Brett, I think he's operating from within the system.
Brett and his fixer, which is what Brett continues to call him, Ben, when quite plainly there's more to their relationship than that.
I'm not saying it's sexual, but I'm saying that there's something going on, Gareth.
I'm hinting at that.
That's one of the hints.
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Switching.
Switching.
Man, he's switching.
Switching.
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