Kyle Becker, Owen, and Marcella dissect the May 7, 2026 LA mayoral debate where Spencer Pratt exposed Democratic failures on homelessness and Hollywood safety. They analyze FBI raids on Senator Louise Lucas for corruption and allege Ilhan Omar's immigration fraud as emblematic of systemic deceit. The hosts condemn a Supreme Court ruling against Louisiana's black-majority district, accusing Justices Kagan, Sotomayor, and Jackson of delaying opinions to manipulate midterms. Ultimately, the discussion argues that judicial politicization and Democratic gerrymandering undermine institutional legitimacy while threatening Republican gains in redistricted states. [Automatically generated summary]
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Morning Coffee and L-Theanine00:03:21
We are alive, alive.
Good morning, you guys.
It's May 7th, 2026.
Good morning.
Owen and Marcella and Kyle Becker joins us again today.
We're so happy to have him here.
So I realized that I don't think we need as much time to chat when we come in.
I feel like we can get to the sip faster for some reason.
And I'm parched.
Are you guys parched?
Let's hope I don't pick a duplicate clip.
It's the Wheel of Clip heck back here.
Let's do it.
And all it takes is a thousand people to rush in here.
And next thing you know, well, this sipping is going to be happening.
And all you need, all you need, it's all you need, is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tanker, Chalice or Stein, a canteen, joker, flask, a vessel of any kind.
Fill it with your favorite liquid.
I like coffee.
And join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better.
The simultaneous sip.
Go.
Spicy.
Good stuff.
Did he say spicy coffee?
Well, I have spicy coffee.
I put a little cinnamon on my foam, you know?
It's a little spicy.
Who knows?
Yeah, I make little foamy foam.
Whatever.
Sometimes when I'm feeling extra perky and just like, you know, ready to go at it, like, let's have some.
Foam, get this going.
I don't know how does Scott drink his coffee?
I guess black, black, black, black, huh?
So the spoon stood up right there.
All right, no fun in his coffee, just black coffee.
He had foam on it when he had the millet.
That you remember the very fancy machine that never worked, that rarely worked.
Yeah, a lot of money.
Oh, the coffee, battling with that.
Yeah, I do add cinnamon and creatine to my coffee.
That's a good one, and a little bit of L theanine too.
You're so extra all the time.
Collagen's not bad either.
Anyway, just leave me with my Chobani sweet cream and I'm good.
Orcella, how do you drink your coffee?
Yeah.
Just, oh my God, it's just milk and coffee.
But I do foam it.
I do do the foam.
I froth too.
I'm not gonna lie.
Like a little cappuccino.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A little frothing is fun.
I'm not gonna lie.
And I will give you a little behind the scenes.
I don't froth as much as I used to with the live stream because I would take a sip.
And the froth would like stick to my lip.
And I'm like, there's no like gracious way of getting it off my face.
So I do a gentle frothing now.
Lord, the things.
You guys, we have so much news today.
And I have, like I said, if you could see what my clips look like back here.
And I just want to say again if I'm telling you we're going to talk about Spencer Pratt and Ilhan Omar pops up, that's just what I'm dealt, the cards I'm dealt by Spencer Pratt.
Just pretend Spencer is Ilhan and everything will be okay.
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But anyway, you guys, I watched that debate last night.
It was so good.
We're talking about the mayoral debate for Los Angeles where Marcella lives.
And man, am I learning a lot about LA and its problems?
I thought I knew, but did you watch Marcella?
No.
She said, Typical Los Angeles person to watch, I guess.
Oh.
You know what?
Joel Pollack did a whole thing about following every question.
I saw the clips.
You know, so Joel watched it for me.
Thank goodness.
Good.
Okay.
So, you can definitely check that.
I can't stand seeing Karen Bass.
I just can't.
Oh, yeah.
Just terrible.
Well, I don't know if you guys will.
I mean, listen, I'm in New Jersey, but this is just, you know, must see TV for me.
I loved it.
So, I'm just going to play a couple of quick clips, okay?
Just to give you a little flavor, we'll chat about it.
But first, the first topic I wanted to show you the difference in two people.
So, here is Karen Bass, who is the current mayor who let.
L.A., I let the Palisades burn down.
And oh, and what I just want to point out like, I can just, you know, hear Scott, you know, explaining to you.
She's talking about how homeless rates have gone down in the last two years.
If they went down, it's because you had a bajillion homeless people and now you have just under a bajillion homeless people.
It's like, let's not be proud.
It's not like he went from a bajillion to 20.
So, anyway, here's Karen Bass, the current mayor who wants to be reelected.
And I don't know why you'd want to be reelected, but anyway, here we go.
But I think that I deserve a second term, and I'm going to fight for that because we have made significant progress in a variety of areas.
For example, homelessness was going up year after year.
And under my watch, it is the first time we've had a decrease in street homelessness.
While it went up in the country 18%, it came down in Los Angeles 17.5%.
So, and then you got a little behind the scenes while she was talking there of what's happening in LA.
So, That was Karen.
And then here is, I hope, here is Spencer Pratt.
You guys might have seen him from the Hills reality show on MTV back in the day.
He has been forced to run for mayor to save the place that he loves and lives.
And here's his talk on homelessness.
I say Councilwoman Robin acts like she doesn't have any authority with this homelessness.
She was the third most powerful person in city council.
She runs the homeless housing thing.
She acts like this is just Mayor Bass.
First off, inside safe.
I like to say inside safe makes all of us outside unsafe.
The reality is no matter how many beds you give these people, they are on super meth.
They are on fentanyl.
The DEA statistics says 93% of this is a drug addiction problem.
Nithya Councilwoman Robbins' plan for treatment first.
I will go below the Harbor Freeway tomorrow with her and we can find some of these people she's going to offer treatment for.
She's going to get stabbed in the neck.
These people do not want a bed.
They want fentanyl or super meth.
These ideas cost us over $400 million to house 70,000, what is it, 3,000 people for $400 million?
This is an absolute failure for both of them.
They're a team.
So I love him.
It was just like that.
It was very Donald Trump a la 2015 of just speaking common sense.
Kyle, I'm going to come to you first.
You're our guest news host today.
Did you watch any of this?
What did you think about what you saw?
I saw enough of it to know that Spencer Pratt definitely won this debate.
And I think 88% of those respondents to a certain poll agreed with that.
And I think that when you get the Democratic Party on stage with common sense people, you can call them Republicans if you want, but just anybody who has common sense, they just argue.
And if they can spit facts about the damage that these Democratic Party politicians are going to, Put, you know, to effect on their cities, then I think that the track record speaks for itself.
You don't even have to be the most polished rhetorician.
You don't have to be Cicero to simply just lay out the track record of failure that the Democrats have in these cities.
And it's just abysmal.
And how you can reelect somebody who oversees such destruction is beyond me and beyond most sensible voters who would watch such a debate.
I was nervous for Spencer because it's his first debate and now he's going up against politicians.
But common sense just does outshine these politicians.
Organization or something they made called Inside Safe.
And the theory was if you bring people inside, they'll be safe.
And I love how he goes, Inside Safe means outside dangerous, because they're not solving anything.
And he's right, Marcella, giving people beds and trying to force them off the street is not going to solve this problem if they're addicts.
So, how'd you feel about that clip?
I mean, I won.
I don't want anybody to think that I don't want Spencer Pratt to win, but.
The issue is difficult in Los Angeles for him to win because of the fact that the unions are against him and everything else.
But you know what?
It's great that he's running because he's bringing them against their own issues.
He's getting Karen Bass, like, he's basically talking to her about, hey, I don't have a house because of you, you know?
So it's great to see that somebody is actually telling them what this is causing.
Everything that they just wore salads about everything.
They talked about illegal immigrants voting.
Of course, they want that to happen.
But Spencer said no, you know.
And so, you know, I want him to win.
And he did really good.
He really did a lot.
He was able to think on his feet and he was able to fight back, but still be.
Restraint.
Although NBC kept saying, oh, at the beginning of the debate, they were like, no name calling.
Okay.
No name calling.
And when he called Karen Bass a liar, which I don't believe is a name call, I could have called her many worse names.
They said, you're name calling her.
Yeah.
And so they made it appear as, oh, you're the bad white male, you know.
Colonizer, kind of person.
Not the colonizers.
It's like we're back in the 19th century.
Yeah, I know.
We love the word colonizing here.
Who's colonizing nowadays?
Are there a lot of colonizers you run into on the street?
Spencer, I guess, is.
Hey, hey, you're impressed with me.
They got the whole outfit and everything.
So, Owen, did you.
I watched the clips, people.
I watched the clips.
Yeah, she watched the clips.
So, you know, did you get to see any of this or are we just going to show you clips?
Because, oh my God, it was so good.
And he really.
And I love that he also would take his time instead of answering the question the moderator would give him.
He's like, I'm using my time to just debunk what these two lunatics just said.
And he did it so effectively and respectfully and really painted a picture.
So I don't know what you got.
I know Owen's so, so busy right now.
So what do you think?
I did not see it before.
So I'm just listening to the clips as you're showing him to me.
But I do think that, you know, it's kind of just a sad situation that I think it's probably.
Very likely that one of these Democrats is going to get elected just because that's how the politics are in LA.
But I really do hope that Spencer can have an upset.
I think it's well deserved.
I think if people were following common sense, they would be electing him.
And I'm hoping that he'll be able to use some of the persuasion techniques like the AI videos and the things that we've been seeing.
And it's been kind of interesting.
But I tend to think it's like even those AI videos are probably only being watched by people that would have already voted for Spencer.
And I don't even know how many people watch the debate, frankly.
And so I don't know how much this is going to move the needle.
I just looked on PolyMarket and it was interesting to me, but.
And Spencer did take a little bit of a jump up, but not much.
And the interesting part was that it looked like Karen Bass actually went up pretty significantly and took the lead away from Raman.
So I don't know exactly if maybe there's another clip that explains that, but it looks like before the debate, Raman had a pretty big lead.
Like it was close to 50% chance that she would be winning.
She didn't do well.
Karen Bass was way down.
For some reason, Polymarket suddenly shifted, and now Karen Bass is in the lead according to the odds.
It was pretty funny because Nithia Raman, I don't think she did well, but they did an ad together, Bass and Raman being like, you know, like trying to align each other to make Spencer look like, you know, the bad outsider in an ad.
And it was funny because when I put on the debate, they were like, you know, bickering with each other, the two women.
And, you know, and then Nithia even took this opportunity to say, You can see what's happening here.
They're obviously afraid of me because those two are working together to gang up on me.
And then Spencer's like, That's pretty.
You think I'm working with the woman who let my house burn down and my parents' house burn down and like ruin California?
He's like, That's hysterical.
Which, you know, he got a lot of laughs too.
So I think once the clips come out, more of these clips from the debate, that people are going to be like, You know what?
I think I'm curious to see like in a week where that goes.
But I do want to just show the one clip on Hollywood because Hollywood's.
Done, they're done, and they depend on it.
Now, here's Spencer who knows the Hollywood industry, so here's what he had to say about one of their most important industries.
We needed a mayor three years ago that was going to Sacramento and fighting the governor to get uncapped tax credits.
We need post production tax credits.
Councilman Rahman will tell you, My husband's a producer, blah blah blah.
The reality is, she's been in power for five years now.
All of a sudden, she has these tweets and these posts, and she's doing sub stacks.
Both of these people.
Have been the reason why there's no more Hollywood.
Not to mention, even if they do these things, we're still going to have drug addicts all over the street because they're treatment first, open beds, not mandatory treatment.
Do you know I talk to producers?
They have to pay gang members right now to keep the streets safe, to go film anything on the streets of LA.
So, absolutely no, these two politicians have failed Hollywood times a thousand.
All right.
So, I hope Hollywood hears that.
Because they know that the struggle is real.
And I know it's real because they're all coming to New Jersey and not happy.
All right.
So, Marcella, I'll come to you first.
You shook your head about, you know, gang members having to be security for these people to shoot movies.
Yeah.
Even gang members who want the homeless out, even they enforce the law.
You know, the thing about Hollywood is I'm just hoping that there's a, you know, how when Trump first ran, There was this secret Trump voter.
Maybe there'll be a secret Pratt voter where they have to tell everybody of, you know, every friend of theirs, oh, I'm voting for the socialist Rahman or I'm voting for, you know, Karen Bass.
So I'm hoping that's what will happen.
But yeah, Hollywood is really finished.
And it's not just Hollywood.
I mean, it creates a whole industry.
FBI Investigation into Jay Jones00:15:49
So where there is.
You know, restaurants, catering, every all sorts of things, carpenters, you know, all sorts of like tradesmen that work in that field that I know.
And they're having to go to New Jersey, they're having to go to Nevada or wherever the filming is gone to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's no, and the thing about Spencer Pratt is that he does get that reality out to, you know, to the public.
But the other thing is that Karen Bass and Raman, I don't, I forget, Nait?
Nithya.
I don't know her.
Nithya.
Nithya Raman, they don't have a solution.
They're part of the problem.
They created this.
Well, yeah, they've been there for years and years and years.
So now suddenly you're like, we have a plan.
Oh, well, that's nice.
Where was that?
But all right, so I'm going to move on from this story if you guys don't mind.
But that, so we'll keep an eye on that.
Kyle, I wanted to ask you, I wanted to move on to this Louise Lucas story.
And I do have a clip, but can you just give us a quick Little snippet before I run the clip of what we're moving into next?
Right.
So, Louise Lucas is an ally of Governor Abigail Spanberger.
She's a state senator.
She's actually the Senate pro tempore.
And she had been under investigation since the Biden administration for running illegal cannabis or hemp distribution centers.
And there are now bribery implications for these centers that she was participating in.
So, the FBI raided.
One of these distribution centers and seized assets and actually arrested a handful.
And she's been there a long time.
Yeah, she's quite up in the age.
I can't give you an exact age, but she's been there for a while.
Well, let's see.
We'll look at the clip and then the three of us will chitty chat about it.
The four of us.
I'm looking at you three.
Hold on.
One of the most powerful political figures in Virginia is under the FBI spotlight.
Yeah, so this morning, federal investigators raided the office and business of Senate Finance Chair Louise Lucas.
It happened in Portsmouth, which is where she's from.
The FBI is not releasing much information tonight, but it all stems from allegations of corruption.
Our Matthew Torres has the latest on the investigation tonight.
Senator, is there anything you could say?
Virginia Senator Luis Lucas driving off from the scene of an FBI raid in Portsmouth.
Investigators seen searching her office and a cannabis dispensary she co owns.
The exact reason is still unclear, other than it's part of a corruption investigation.
Her colleague, State Republican Senator Bryce Reeves.
Whether it's a Republican or a Democrat.
To have something like this happen is not a good thing, and it does not bode well for Virginia.
A longtime friend and Virginia House Speaker Don Scott is among the Democratic leaders casting doubt on the investigation.
In a statement, Scott says, I am deeply concerned by today's FBI raid.
Given the politicization of this administration, an FBI led by Kash Patel, and a Justice Department run by President Donald Trump's former personal attorney, I think people should take this with a grain of salt and allow the facts to come out before jumping to conclusions.
I want to provide Virginians with more certainty and stability.
Lucas has been in office since 1992.
She's the Senate finance chair and a big critic of President Trump.
Lucas was instrumental in helping push for redistricting in the Commonwealth to dramatically favor Democrats.
Her quick wit and sharp tongue, expressed on camera and social media, have also gained her even more attention.
Because she holds the purse strings, she's the most powerful, politically powerful ranking senator that we have.
So this does not bode well.
It's very concerning.
Lucas was a major proponent in legalizing simple possession of marijuana in 2021.
It's the same year she opened her cannabis business, which is now part of the FBI probe.
Her store has been scrutinized over allegations of mislabeled products years ago.
To note, Senator Lucas has not been charged with anything.
Meanwhile, Democrat Virginia Attorney General Jay Jones is also weighing in, saying that he is questioning this investigation.
We've also reached out to Governor Abigail Spamberger, who says that she is waiting for more details to become public before she provides a strong statement.
Okay, so what you guys can't see, I thought Marcella was going to have a stroke and fall over behind that clip.
Oh my God.
Marcella was like, they're totally wrong.
Doc's thought is wrong.
All right, Marcella, just go, go ahead before you burst.
This, the federal law enforcement had opened this investigation under the Biden administration.
So it was never a Kash Patel, FBI.
It was under Biden that this was open.
So, for him to say, oh, you know, the politicization or whatever he said, no, no, you know, she's being investigated because there's concern about some of the things that she's doing.
And she's in charge of all the finance.
And on top of that, she does have a dispensary, but, you know, and I love how her dispensary is right next to her office.
That's so convenient.
And there's a bakery next to it.
I love how they went to like murder fantasy attorney general Jay Jones for comment like, okay, here's the voice of reason and authority on this subject.
But, like you were saying, the politicization is the FBI failing to do due diligence and pursuing their leads.
Whenever they run into a Democrat, dead end.
And that's what the Democrats have been doing Hunter Biden and the Biden family and the rest of it.
You could go on and on.
But the funny thing is, they're saying Kash Patel is politicizing the FBI simply because he's pursuing investigations that the Democrats stopped pursuing for political reasons.
I mean, you can't make this up.
And the corruption right now is like so astounding.
It's like we've taken the lid off of all of the corruption and we have a decentralized media landscape now.
So now all of these things are going viral.
The stuff in Ohio, did you see that?
The Luke Rosiak stuff.
Even in the California race, just wanted to point out Xavier Becerra, who ran HHS.
He is, I saw a very damning investigation with Steve Hilton unleashed it.
And it was like Churla with the illegal aliens who are doing, who are taxpayer funded, right?
Taxpayer funded.
Like I think 93% of their, you know, revenue is like.
Roots from taxpayers, and they are actively endorsed Bracera for governor, and they are actively campaigning for him using taxpayer money and illegal aliens.
So, I'm just like the entire landscape, the Somali fraud scandal.
Maybe we'll talk about that.
But Virginia is captured.
I mean, it blows my mind where we're at right now.
We have this.
I mean, this may sound like hyperbole.
I mean, I'm a Cold War buff, so this isn't hyperbole to me.
Like, we have actual communists like Aaron Bass.
We have Katie Wilson in Seattle, Brandon Johnson in Chicago.
We have, you know, Michelle Wu in Boston.
We have Zoran Momdani in New York City.
These guys are undemocratic.
They say they're democratic socialists, but they're undemocratic socialists.
Okay.
First of all, this is striking.
And then the other thing is they've captured Virginia.
We have a former CIA operative who's running the state.
We have murder fantasy attorney general Jay Jones, who is presiding over the law enforcement in the state.
Wait, Kyle, remind everyone about him, about Jones, what he did, because I can't even believe he got in.
So, like a Republican Virginia Senate leader, you know, Jay Jones, there were tax exchanges where he's laughing and talking about murder.
Fantasies about him and his children.
And, you know, they went public during the race.
Abigail Spanberger refused to like strongly condemn Jones and like backed him up in the race.
And so now he's actually the attorney general.
I don't know why that story sort of like disappeared off of the landscape, but imagine if a Republican did that to a Democrat and actually won the state attorney general's race.
I mean, it would just be a nonstop blast.
And I would be on the same page.
I'm just like, you can't have a Republican attorney general who's fantasizing about this sort of thing.
100%.
And so Republicans, they disown the disgraceful politicians.
I see it all the time where Republicans are, you know, like they try to police their own.
Democrats don't seem to police their own at all.
So it's just to see this, you know, be they're not concerned.
There's no media concern that she actually did this and maybe had bribery.
You know, there's actually substance to the bribery accusations, right?
And so they're not like pressing like, You know, citizen journalists would or independent journalists would to like actually say, well, maybe if this is true, it's very concerning.
I don't get any of that from these local news reports.
I don't know.
They have to like go to these so called reputable sources like Jay Jones or whatever to try to get comment from them.
Like he's going to give us an honest broker what the situation is there.
It's just they play defense this way.
They try to use appeal to authority to try to or appeal to brand, which is kind of like my original point.
Most of these Democrat voters, like if these mayors ran on, like, I don't know, the Communist Party ticket or whatever, they'd be like, What is this?
You know, what are we voting for?
I have no idea.
But since it's under the Democratic Party banner, a Trojan horse.
So they just don't even see it.
Virginia was fully a Trojan horse, especially with Spamberger, flipping everything.
Oh, and what do you, you know, can you stand these people anymore?
You know, it's just, it's so blatant and nothing ever happened.
So I'm.
It is.
I mean, the comment I made online when I saw this story was, you know, somebody needs to tell Lucas that the preferred way to do crime in Congress is insider trading.
That you can get away with that.
But, you know, if you do this bribery stuff, you're really on shaky ground.
I don't know.
This cannabis outlet stuff, you know, you should stay away from that sort of thing.
But the insider trading, I mean, that's where you really make the big money.
For sure.
Right.
And maybe it's a little less damaging for everybody else.
But I mean, it is crafty to have the dispensary next door.
So I do like that because it's like, You know, when the landlord lives next to their tenants and you can keep an eye on them.
So that's good.
And yeah, so we have to follow that, Kyle.
You have to give us updates as you see it.
But oh my God, the corruption in Virginia is, well, everywhere, but it's.
I find it very interesting that Virginia is the home of like the CIA with like Langley and there's Quantico.
And so the Democrats capture the stage, which is like the heartbeat of all of these massive federal agencies that are very powerful.
And so, like, I do like what Kash Patel is doing.
On the contrary, they accuse him of weaponizing them.
Of course, he's getting rid of some partisan actors.
That's true.
But he's also sending a lot of FBI agents back to their branch offices to be on the, you know, boots on the ground with the investigations that are leading, which I think is very smart.
But in my opinion, we need to do something about, you know, the way that DC, I would just like to see it sort of dissolved ultimately.
I just think it's an antiquated political arrangement.
It's not necessary.
It's not a way, it doesn't represent Americans the best way that it could if we had a better sort of design.
There was a rationale for it.
In the 18th century, to have a location where they would all meet in person and discuss things.
Now, with K Street and Quantico and Langley and all of these things in this sort of hub, it's just too much centralized power.
And, like, you know, if I had my, I think if James Madison and Jefferson were here today, they would be, whoa, this is, you know, this is a problem.
You know, imagine this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
You're so right.
I think about this all the time.
And why is everything in one cluster?
And why is there so much of it?
And what you're right.
Like, uh, I forget what story it was, but I do like that Patel is putting people back in their districts.
Like, why are you all in one spot?
Go do stuff.
All right.
So, you guys, that's amazing, isn't it?
All right.
Our next, oh, I love our next story.
Somebody said the word Somalia.
So, I cannot, you guys, you know, there's a few people I cannot handle.
And the next one is our beloved Ilhan Omar.
Okay, so I'm getting a little excited because I feel like you remember the old saying we used to say, the walls are closing in.
And I do want to let you know that I purchased a Learning Center sweatshirt.
It's on its way.
Okay, so let's talk about what's going on with Ilhan Omar.
I'm going to play a clip of Benny Johnson speaking with JD Vance first, just to kind of summarize it.
And then we're going to go into another clip and then we'll chitty chat it out.
Hang on.
Talk about Ilhan Omar and Tim Wall.
Exactly.
And obviously, Ilhan Omar, the president and the White House have been out saying that she married her brother, that there is immigration fraud going on here.
These are deportable denaturalization offenses.
Can you give us an update on that?
Yeah.
So we actually think that Ilhan Omar definitely committed immigration fraud against the United States of America.
And I talked to Stephen Miller about this actually recently.
We're trying to look at what the remedies are.
That's the thing that we're trying to figure out what are the legal remedies now that we know that she's committed.
Immigration fraud.
How do you go after her?
How do you investigate her?
How do you actually do the thing?
How do you build the case necessary to get some justice for the American people?
There's a related issue, Benny, which is she has been at the center of a lot of the worst fraudsters in the Somalian community.
So do I know that Ilyan Omar was aware that the Quality Learning Center was defrauding the American people?
I'm not certain of it, but we at least need to investigate it because if people can commit wrongdoing without even the fear.
That they're going to be found out.
That's a fundamental problem.
So I'm worried about the immigration fraud.
I'm also worried about what did Elion Omar know about what was happening in the Somali community and why was nobody looking into it until, frankly, Donald Trump came along?
Do we?
All right.
First of all, do you love how he calls her Elion?
Like, I just love how he adds it in.
And I love how the quality leering center just rolled off his tongue.
Like, JD's so freaking hip and cool.
I love that.
Okay.
So, Who wants to?
Does anyone want to like brush up?
And just like what you said, Kyle, or Owen, I think you said it.
No, you both did.
That you could just have this fraud in broad daylight with no fear of getting caught or being in trouble is definitely concerning.
And you know what?
Let me play this other clip because this will bring us up to date.
Okay, you guys, one more clip and then we're done with her.
Ready?
Oh, and I think you're going to have to hear her voice, I think.
So I'm sorry.
I'm sorry ahead of time.
Closing in on a deadline set by Minnesota Republicans to turn over documents about potential ties to a state fraud ring after she dodged a hearing last month.
Our senior correspondent Mike Tobin is reporting live out of Chicago.
He's got the latest details for us.
Hey, Mike.
Sham Marriage Scandal Unveiled00:10:46
And Sandra, that deadline is today for Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar to turn over documents and communication tied to defendants in that massive feeding our futures scandal.
The Minnesota House Committee on Fraud Prevention and State Agency Oversight is holding its last meeting of the legislative session today.
However, the committee does not have enough votes to subpoena the Congresswoman.
So the committee doesn't have a legal mechanism to compel Omar to cooperate.
The chair of the committee has sent Omar multiple invitations and requests for documents.
Omar does not respond.
Omar now sponsored the 2020 Meals Act, which removed the guardrails on COVID relief money and helped the fraud run up to $250 million.
Despite that, the chair of the Fraud Prevention Committee does not anticipate the Minnesota congressman will respond by the deadline.
It shows her continued disdain for the taxpayers.
She feels like she's above having to answer for her involvement in the fraud and her responsibility as a member of Congress who, you know, she passed the bill that took the guardrails off the school nutrition program that led to the conditions that enabled Feeding Our Future.
Now, Amy Bach was convicted as the mastermind of the Feeding Our Future scandal.
Defendants billed the government for meals that were never provided through existing restaurants and sham companies.
Now, in Bach's trial, Omar's name appeared in an email chain with Bach.
Trial evidence showed text communication with Bach and Omar.
Trial evidence also showed Bach exchanged emails with one of the defendants who fled the country.
The title of that email chain was Ilhan's Office.
Now, back in January, our Alexis McAdams interviewed Amy Bach.
She said she never spoke directly with Representative Omar, only people in her office.
And the conversations, she said, were never substantive.
Sandra, back to you.
Got it.
Oh, we didn't have to hear her voice.
Oh, you're welcome.
You're welcome.
Okay, extra points for me.
All right, Owen, I'm going to come to you first and just get your take on what's happening with our favorite Somalian.
I mean, I would just say, like, this everything that's going on in Minnesota seems like it's all connected.
You know, we have, first of all, just how did we end up with this massive Somali community there?
And then, second, you know, the Ilan Omar seems like some kind of creation that came out of that.
Where she was sort of just like chosen somehow to become a representative of that.
And then we now we see the result of it with all this massive fraud.
I don't think this was all just organic where all these individual people decided, hey, we're going to do this fraud.
I'm sure it was at least shared between them like, hey, I'm doing this fake daycare and look at all the money I'm raking in.
And everybody copied them.
And it's very clear that the government was turning a blind eye to all this stuff.
That they knew it was going on and they were doing nothing about it.
They were just letting it happen.
And Tim Walz.
And now that some people are actually being put on trial for it, they're giving them like slap on the wrist penalties.
Like one of them just got out recently with no jail time, another one had like hardly anything.
They're basically giving them the judicial system, which is also kind of just saying, eh, no big deal.
You know, we don't need to really give these people real sentences.
And so it seems like there's just no order, no law and order in Minnesota.
Everybody from the executive branch to the legislators to the judicial branch, everybody is just, hey, we're just going to let people steal a bunch of money and, you know, just let it all go on.
Oh, all right.
Marcella, I'm going to come to you next and then Kyle will finish that up.
What Vice President Van said, it worries me because if her marriage was not genuine and she's being accused of marrying a relative, I guess a brother, I suppose, and it was a sham marriage, then she can face deportation and easily.
And she could possibly face crime punishment.
It's a crime to have a sham marriage.
So I don't know.
To me, that seems like they're taking the very.
Like, very, they're taking this very differently because she can't be touched.
I don't know.
I could be wrong, but she can easily be deported.
Many people are every day almost if there's a sham marriage.
And I think they should be, if that's the case.
There shouldn't be this two or two justice system where you say, oh, you're a special case because you're in Congress.
No, you should have the same penalties anybody else would have for a crime like that.
No one's above the law.
And let's not forget that they're so disloyal to America.
Like, her first priority is Somalia, Somalians.
So, I mean, I have an issue with her.
I have an issue with anybody who wants to wave another country's flag, try to turn our country into their country.
I have an issue with people that were born in another country being a member of our politics to begin with.
I just don't think that.
Me.
Well, I do.
You're not in politics.
I do.
Maybe I will be.
Well, maybe I won't like it.
I just, I want Americans representing America.
I haven't, I just, yeah, I just don't feel like, you know, she's, she talks so much about, you know, how terrible America is and, you know, how she's like, these are my people, you know, and she's talking to the Somalian community.
If you go vote in Minnesota, they don't even speak English in a lot of these places.
Like everyone's in the gear and like they don't speak English.
They don't want to talk to you.
And then remember, Waltz changed the flag to look, Very much like the Somalian flag, like the state flag.
It's like, what the hell is going on?
I'll start cursing.
I will.
So go ahead, Kyle.
Well, the Democratic Party has broken up America into a number of political fiefdoms and they even racially gerrymandered.
They set up urban party machines.
And I think in Minnesota, they even changed the flag, like you're saying, to resemble the Somalian flag to show just how disloyal to the United States they are.
Well, Ilhan Omar, I'm less concerned about the alleged marriage fraud than I am that her father was a.
Colonel in Somalia.
And she's not actually a refugee.
She was not fleeing persecution.
And therefore, she might have lied about her reasons for being in the country.
She came here to be allegedly participate in this fraud that was in this community in Minnesota.
And she passed this meals program that kind of paved the way and helped clear the way for allegedly $250 million in fraud or approximately that much.
And so, of course, Attorney General Keith Ellison, he's been nailed as, you know, associating with some of these sleazy.
Business owners.
And the same can be said for Ilhan Omar.
And it looks like she got kickbacks at some point to her campaign that was like a derivative of this kind of money laundering machine that they have up there.
And so the Democratic Party at this point, I think that they function a lot like a protection racket, like it's similar to a criminal enterprise.
That's just systematically what the process looks like to me.
And they are just siphoning off our federal taxpayers for illegitimate purposes.
To get strong, you know, these little political strongholds and to turn them into mini Somalias, as some people have coined it.
Oh, yeah.
So, they protected her with this committee vote.
I mean, three of the, you know, members refused to go along with the subpoena just to look to see if there's any there.
And that was after Ilhan Omar refused to comply.
She's like a made person in this sort of Democratic Party there.
And so now there's, Questions about whether or not she'll be expelled in the House of Representatives.
They're actually looking at that.
I hate repeating news about them looking at stuff because if they were serious, they'd actually do that.
And then, you know, well, after they do Fauci, like Fauci first, because, you know, we have a deadline, you know, five days.
Five days.
That auto pen pardon that he supposedly, you know, received from, you know, someone in, you know, performing duties in Biden's name unconstitutionally.
At least you could argue that maybe and see if it holds up in law, a court of law.
But, you know, Ilhan Omar is just a poster child.
And, you know, maybe we shouldn't want to expel her.
You know, keep her around is the poster child of all this Democrat corruption because every time she opens her mouth, she makes voters skin crawl outside of, of course.
Well, I'll just take it a controversial step further.
And let's not forget her husband's winery and the, you know, $30 million oops mistake on her returns.
You know, okay.
And she's a Muslim, right?
Why is she having.
I don't get it.
Don't lead me down the path, Kyle.
That's just where I'm going.
I mean, I don't know.
Just asking questions.
This is why she's here.
Okay.
This, like, I'll say it.
This is why she's here.
Islam has a plan.
Okay.
And I'm not giving you, I told you guys, I'm not giving you my pre qualifier of not all.
There's a plan.
She's here.
She's part of it.
You see what's happening to Minnesota.
You see what's happening all over this country.
And they're just waiting us out and growing and growing and growing.
So don't be afraid to talk about it.
This is serious.
This is do or die.
So, I want to believe that this administration knows what's happening and they know why she has to go.
And if they need to dance around it and say it's because she lied to come here and married her brother and she's a fraud, fine.
But you still have another problem of almost 5% of this country now that's going to need to follow and get the hell out of here, too.
So, we have an Islam problem.
And She is made and she was put here.
So that's all I'm going to say about that for now.
Just to add the magnitude of what's going on in Minnesota, the fraud is literally more than the GDP of Somalia.
Yes.
So all the money they're stealing is like double their GDP.
So they clearly have a lot of motivation to keep this going because it's essentially like the majority of their economy at this point.
Oh my God, Chunks.
That's great.
Chunks just said in the chat she really needs to prove she loves her brother.
You know, like, all right, prove to us that was a real marriage.
Supreme Court Redistricting Delay00:14:12
Okay, so I'm going to move on from her, but I will never literally move on from her because I just, she is the head of the snake.
Remember the snake story Trump used to tell us to go to sleep at night?
Okay, so let's move on.
My last clip, and Owen, I'll let you lead this one.
This is Brett Baer on Fox News.
Okay, so this we are talking about redistricting.
And just Lord, here's the clip.
Here we go.
Democrats are decrying the Supreme Court ruling today against a black majority district in Louisiana that rolls back a key provision of the Voting Rights Act.
We get details tonight from Fox News chief legal correspondent, anchor of Fox News Sunday, Shanna Breen.
Certainly, the precedent of this decision will impact other states.
As redistricting fights across the country aim to reshape the midterm playing field, the Supreme Court has issued a decision that could send states scrambling to redraw maps in a move seen favorable to Republicans and one that has the potential to impact somewhere in the neighborhood of roughly 20 current congressional districts.
Would you consider it a win for them?
A win for Republicans.
I love it.
The 6 3 opinion finds Louisiana erred.
In drawing a second predominantly black district, which it had done in response to earlier litigation challenging its map at the time.
Justice Alito writing for the majority, quote, No compelling interest justified the state's use of race in creating SB 8.
That map is an unconstitutional gerrymander, and its use would violate the plaintiff's constitutional rights.
Justice Thomas authored a concurring opinion joined by Justice Gorsuch going beyond the majority's ruling, quote, I would go further and hold that Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act does not regulate districting at all.
The dissenters, Justices Kagan, Sotomayor, and Jackson, warn they fear Section 2 is essentially, quote, a dead letter following today's decision.
The consequences are likely to be far reaching and grave.
If other states follow Louisiana's lead, the minority citizens residing there will no longer have an equal opportunity to elect candidates of their choice.
I think what the Supreme Court is saying is it doesn't matter what.
Communities are actively harmed so long as you can't prove intent.
It's unclear whether some legislatures will now be able, if they want, to redraw their maps in time to affect the midterms since primary voting has already started in many states.
Also, today, the court issued a unanimous decision in favor of a group of pregnancy centers in New Jersey.
They have been fighting a subpoena from the state attorney general, seeking the names, phone numbers, addresses, and even places of employment from some of their donors.
The justices found those demands created a burden on the right to associate under the First Amendment.
Brett?
Let's go, Jersey.
Okay, Owen, I'm just going to come to you first.
Yeah, well, I mean, certainly it was a huge decision and the right decision.
And I think it is inconsistent with saying you can't have racist districts, you know.
So to me, it was kind of a clear decision and it should have been 9-0, but of course it wasn't.
And this was actually the story I posted that this was part of, it was a little bit more broad about.
It was really about the Democrats wanting to pack the Supreme Court because they just want to have their way and they want to politicize everything.
And of course, they're complaining the exact opposite that, oh, it's being politicized and the court is being political when they're doing this and they're just trying to help Republicans.
So, of course, they always accuse their opposition of doing what they're doing.
But the other detail that wasn't really talked about in the clip was that they, you know, the dissent on this was delayed like over 30 days.
There was no reason it had to be delayed that way.
And I think there's a lot of speculation or, you know, opinions.
And I think there are people even in the Supreme Court that say, you're just doing this to try and prevent people from having time to have this affect midterms.
It was a completely political decision to say, I'm just going to sit on my dissent so that we can't issue the full opinion, so that people can't make the changes as a result of it.
And I think they were somewhat unsuccessful that some states have said, we're going to delay our primaries because we need to potentially redistrict.
And they're calling special sessions.
I think Alabama and Tennessee and a couple other places are looking at doing that.
Florida has already, I think, redistricted.
So, like, there are a lot of Republican states where they have the power to act on this, that they are making these changes in time for the midterms, or at least they're trying to.
But I think it was just a blatantly political thing by the liberal justices to say, oh, we're just going to, you know, try and delay this and do everything we can to basically be a political activist.
It's very clear that Jackson, especially, is just a political activist.
I mean, your opinions were just.
Blatantly insulting other Supreme Court justices, and it's not showing any kind of restraint or impartiality.
It's damaging the reputation of the Supreme Court because, you know, if any justice is saying these political things, basically, it just makes it look more political.
Whereas what they should be doing is trying to protect the reputation and improve the reputation of the Supreme Court as being impartial and being based on the law, not just based on a political opinion.
But the Democrats are doing everything they can to try and just Say we got to pack the Supreme Court and it's going to start looking like Congress after a while.
I think the other justices are really getting sick of Jackson.
And I kind of wonder if something amazing will happen.
Like they're going to say something like she needs to be removed because they've already had it with her.
But all right, Marcella, you are our legal expert.
I'm sad.
I'm sad about what goes on with our Supreme Court justices and with.
Judges all over this country.
What's your take on what you're seeing with the redistricting?
The decision followed the law, you know.
So I don't know what the dissent was, but in reality, racial gerrymandering is still allowed unless only if it's narrowly justified under strict scrutiny.
The first image you showed of Justice Alito.
He indicated that this particular district that they created did not have a reason to be created based on race.
They didn't give a reason at all.
So, technically, if you don't have a compelling interest, then it's not constitutional.
That's very clear.
We learned this in the first year of law school.
I don't know why Kagan, Sotomayor, and Jackson play games.
With the timing of their descent.
You don't know?
You really don't know?
Well, I do know, but this is how I'm saying it.
I'm sorry, Owen.
No, it's fine.
Go ahead.
Thank you.
So I don't know why they play these games with the law because they themselves know this.
They know that it has to have a compelling interest.
They're plain politics, like you said, Owen.
So the delay in their dissent is also political.
And unfortunately, they can't be removed, you know, and nobody can remove them.
So, unless there is, you know, obvious crimes they've caused or something like that, but just based on a decision, can't be done.
Even if they're playing politics like that, I mean, they're.
Yeah, because they do it in a way where they have an excuse.
We see it as them playing politics, but they're obviously not going to put it in a text.
Oh, we're playing politics.
Yeah.
Contagy, oh, yeah, we're playing politics too.
You know, it's like they're not going to make it.
They use like the system in order to do what they need to do.
So it's sad.
All right, Kyle, let us know what you think.
So I think it's pretty sad when the Supreme Court is blatantly committing election interference.
If it turns out that these justices didn't have a justifiable reason to slow roll their dissents, I think it undercuts the legitimacy of their dissent because you have.
Six justices who believe this is a completely clear case and struck it down.
And then you have the three partisan justices making sort of spurious arguments that don't really cut to the heart of the case.
And so it's pretty sad.
At the same time, the Democratic Party that nominated these justices are saying they want to pack the court.
And there's no reason to pack the court unless you just want to add more ideologues.
It's not like they think it will improve the law and the interpretation of it.
But I think just to get to the more overtly political implications of this, I find it kind of amusing that the Democratic Party, they are shocked and appalled that the Republican Party would ever return fire after they have been gerrymandering states for any reason that they could find for decades.
In New England, they have 27 seats to zero Republicans, and there's 40% Republican voters there, so no representation.
Virginia, They seem to have an extremely flawed election to get this map put in place.
And then the Supreme Court, you know, there's probably a very good chance that they ultimately say no, they uphold that and say, no, this is not a legitimate map.
And after all of this is said and done, even with the slow rolling of this dissent, it looks like there will be about 14 Republicans to like six Democrats in the sort of redistricting, you know, gains, net gains, and this after this plays out.
And then in the next election, it could go as high as like 18 seats for the Republicans versus six for the Democrats.
Again, just putting Virginia aside for now, we don't know what's going to happen there.
And if it was probably going to be upheld, then it would be a bit of a different picture.
But I think the Democrats just must be very shocked.
And we saw the Democrat scientist Benny Thompson claiming this is the second coming of the Civil War.
And it is for them because politics is a proxy for war.
And the Democrats understood this a long time ago, like decades ago.
And so now we're all like, you know, we shouldn't be stunned when progressives do this on the court.
I don't think any of us here are like really that surprised.
We disagree with it.
We don't like it.
Right.
What we want is somebody like Thune, GOP majority Thune, to like act like the way the Democrats do, take it seriously, you know, nuke the filibuster, get the Save America Act in, you know, do things that are going to be, you know, Beneficial for this country moving ahead because if he doesn't do it, the Democrats certainly, the way they're talking now, they will abuse any institution we see with the Supreme Court.
They'll abuse the Senate rules.
They'll do whatever they can.
So we have to push back the same way.
So, Kyle, while we have you here, let me get your take.
What is up with Thune?
Like, why is he?
What is it?
Well, he's McConnell's boy.
And the fact that he was put in as majority leader and then, you know, Trump didn't throw a fit over it.
I think it's for me, that's the way the power brokering goes on in DC.
Some of it's opaque, but there seems to be like some sort of handshake.
Deal where you have the establishment and then Trump tries to calculate this all out.
Like he doesn't want the Republican to fight the Republican establishment at the same time as the Democrat establishment in their giant machine.
So he has to like play these power broker politics.
And, you know, Thune is kind of just the corporatist wing of the Republican Party.
He's the old, you know, old money establishment representative there.
And they like the status quo.
They like their corporate handouts.
They like the illegal immigration to some extent because it's cheap labor.
You know, there are a lot of really good explanations for why Thune is acting the way he is.
They don't really want to see actual reformers and disruptors at the head of the Senate.
This old money, this old, you know, they don't want to see voting.
They don't want to see voting go right.
You know, it would take a lot of, it would take a threat to their.
Interests, I would say, like their money interests, you know, their power interests to really affect things.
And as far as they're concerned, you know, our representation in the Congress is not really foremost of their concerns.
It's really just maintaining the status quo.
That's the way I read the situation.
Thune can prove me wrong by just, you know, changing the rules.
At least get a talking filibuster.
I mean, at least make it believable.
If you're going to have political theater, you know, at least put on a good show.
For us and have a talking filibuster.
So, you know, more people are persuaded that you're actually trying.
It's very frustrating.
Owen or Marcella, do you want to comment?
Yeah, go ahead.
Political Theater and Filibuster00:04:11
So, I went to Grok to try to figure out if the dissent was laid on purpose.
And this is just from Grok.
It was not the dissent itself that was laid, but the actual decision.
It was heard in 2024's term or 2025 Supreme Court.
Term.
However, it was postponed to this term by all of them.
And then when this term happened, there was an argument in March, right?
And it's about 32 days after the argument or some time allotted for an opinion.
However, a re argument was ordered by the court.
The only dissenting justice for the re argument was Justice, guess who?
Jackson.
No, no, no.
This is to re argue the case.
Right, right, right.
So we're thinking the The most Republican judge, uh, justice.
Oh, Thomas.
Yes.
Yeah.
So he was the only dissenting, um, opinion regarding rearguing because the rearguing moved the date down to having it not be for the midterms.
Bless him, man.
Bless him.
All right, you guys, we only have, um, a couple of minutes left.
And, um, I wanted to let you know that just an update that, uh, Shelly's family, I heard from Shelly's husband and, um, he, uh, appreciated.
All the condolences and kind words, and so did everybody else that I talked to.
So they know your messages and your condolences.
And Shelly's husband shared some pictures.
I didn't put them on here, but of he's reflecting and sunsets, and he's in one of their favorite places right now.
And he said that the thing that they love to do was to watch the sunsets together.
And so he said to share the information with everybody that, you know, he appreciated all the kind words that were passed along.
And you guys were so great and so nice.
And you always are and you still are.
And then, oh, yeah, I know.
I was just going to say.
And then, no, so Kyle, do that now.
Show your book, Hypernia.
All right.
So just if you're a politics junkie who likes epic fantasy, please check out my book.
It's getting good reviews 4.5.
Show it closer.
Hello.
All right.
I mean, let's see it.
Working on the second book now, it's going great, and so you know, it's called Hypernia.
Hypernia, and you said it's kind of like what, like a um, I'm gonna say the wrong, Lord of the Rings, Lord of the Rings, so oh, he cut out okay, so it's kind of like a Lord of the Rings, kind of like fantasy.
Political junkies will love it.
Um, it's called Hypernia.
We can't hear Kyle anymore for some reason, but we'll.
Post it after the show.
Definitely grab it, you guys, and grab it for like a reader, grab it for yourself, for a gift, for anybody.
And maybe it'll be a movie one day.
It's that kind of book that you could see being a movie, right?
All right.
So, you guys, we will be back tomorrow.
Owen and Marcella, thank you as always every day.
Kyle, we love when you come on.
Thanks for coming on.
We'll see you again soon.
And to everybody here, thank you so much.
And start saying your goodbyes, you guys.
But to Scott and Shelly, we always thank them for allowing this show to go on.
And we're all going to be useful today and calm and cool and collected.
And as always, a closing sip to our beloved Scott.