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Feb. 25, 2018 - Roosh V - Daryush Valizadeh
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Roosh Live #10
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All right, welcome to Ruch Live number 10.
It's taken me a while to get set up today.
Why?
Because I got the flu.
For the first time in something like 15 years, I got the flu and it knocked me out.
And I think I'm about 60% back to where I should be.
My eyes are dry.
I can't wear my contact lenses.
You know, one good thing about getting the flu is that my mind kind of just, it stopped.
When your body is sick, your mind doesn't get all the energy, all that nonstop chatter.
Every minute, it just stopped.
I could actually go outside and I had to go outside.
Why?
Because no one takes care of me.
You know, this is, I think, being sick is the only time I wish I had a woman.
Those two weeks a year, I'm really sick.
I wish someone could cook for me, clean for me.
I still had to take the garbage out, go to the supermarket, do my dishes, wash my balls, you know, do the laundry.
I still had to do everything.
So anyway, when I'm sick, yeah, it's like the mind, because the body is really ill, the mind doesn't have all of that energy.
Your mind is just, it stops.
Finally, my mind stopped.
And for a full day, I was just clear.
Yeah, I was in pain.
My body was aching.
I had some jaw problem, but my mind was just clear for one day, peace.
And then I started healing again.
And then the mind comes back.
And then the mind says, Hey, Roosh, don't you want to do a live chat?
So you can share all your knowledge to all the people.
So even though I'm not at 100%, I still, my mind still wants to do this.
But I want you to see me at my worst.
This is how I look when I'm just feeling like total crap.
Because maybe some people get the idea that I'm some kind of superman.
Nope, I still get sick.
I got feelings too.
I got feelings.
Arnold does.
So what else is going on?
Actually, something else happened.
This week, my site, Returning Kings, was officially designated a hate group.
Our old friends at the Southern Poverty Law Center has designated Returning Kings as a, guess what?
A male supremacist hate group.
Male supremacist.
You know, I guess they wanted something close to their existing term, white supremacist.
So me and a voice for men who is run by Paul Elam, who I've sparred with, you know, I've sparred with him.
But we're just in different places.
He's catering to the men who have been divorced, raped, who've had their children taken away from them by the court system.
You know, I'm not there.
You know, I think the men who find me, they find me before they were raped by the ex-wife.
So we approach things in a different way.
But let me see if I can share the screen of what they are talking about.
All right.
So here we go.
Male supremacy is a hateful ideology advocating for the subjugation of women.
Male supremacy misrepresents all women as genetically inferior, manipulative, manipulative, and stupid, and reduces them to their reproductive or sexual function, as if they have any other, with sex being something that they owe men and that can or even should be coerced out of them.
And how do they have Mike Cernovich here?
They're trying to group him in there.
But here, my daughter, you shrushadame.
Very good.
And they have some quotes from Elam.
They have, okay, of course, you know, that famous article I wrote, how to stop rape.
Make rape legal if done on private property.
People know that's not real, but they need it.
They need this.
They need to purposefully misconstrue this as fact to push their latest anti-male crap.
So I don't think I need to tell you what primary religious identification people at the Southern Poverty Law Center is.
I'm going to try to go.
Let's see how long we can go on this stream without saying the J word.
Okay.
So anyway, what does this mean that now I am officially some kind of hate group?
I am a one-man hate group, a website that's run by me from my laptop from Starbucks during the daytime.
Whichever nearest Starbucks I can find is now a hate group.
That's how low the bar is.
You know, if you try as hard as me, you can be a hate group too.
But, you know, it takes a lot of skill.
But this actual designation from the Southern Poverty Lie Center is, it's not going to do anything.
It's just which liberal companies decide to use it as a pretext to shut me down when they wanted to shut me down anyway.
Okay.
So then you're going to have Twitter shut me down and say, oh, it's because Roosh is a hate group.
Bitch, you hated me anyway.
You're just looking for it.
It's like they got their finger on the band, but we're going to get them.
We need some excuse.
How about some total bullshit nonsense that the Southern Poverty Lie Center does?
Let's just use that.
It's good enough.
Male supremacy, yeah, that sounds good, even though we support Islam and Islam is between me and you, as male supremacists as you can get.
They stone women who cheat.
They throw acid on their faces.
They kill their female relatives if they talk to a man.
That's hardcore shit.
You think I'm bad?
You're importing.
See, I mean, if they were importing the highest socioeconomic Muslims, that wouldn't be as bad because usually the ones who are well-to-do are not as ignorant and barbaric.
But the lower class ones that they're importing, they tend to do some crazy stuff.
Why do you think acid attacks in England and London are going up?
Google it.
Acid attacks in London is now a common thing.
You know, if you are a woman and you have a Muslim boyfriend in London, don't make him mad.
Shit.
Don't make him mad because he's going to throw that damn acid on you.
And what are you going to do about it?
Yeah, okay.
You can cry online about how this is male supremacy, maybe, but you're not because he's a Muslim.
It's not going to bring your face back.
I mean, some of those photos I've seen of women getting acid on their face, that is sad stuff, man.
Because no advanced plastic surgery can fix that.
So instead of going after people who do that, they go after me.
That's just how bizarro world things are.
And a lot of people are like, Roosh, man, you need to fight back.
Fight back against who?
A big organization with tens of million dollars stashed away with full-time legal staff.
You made a fight against Google, a trillion-dollar company.
You know, YouTube, they just took away Baked Alaska's live streaming.
He can't stream.
So just enjoy this one.
Enjoy this one because you know that they try to shut me down.
I think you know they did that same thing to me.
They banned me for three months because I put the word German in the title.
I put the word German in the title.
The ADL had a panic attack because they thought I was calling another, I don't know, Holocaust where six billion Jews, oops, damn, I said it.
Where 6 billion people would die.
And then they banned me.
But then I kind of, you know, agitated.
And I'm not saying my agitation is strong, but I think it was so blatant.
They're like, okay, we'll give Roosh back his privileges so he can do his little cutesy live streams with his real pug, Arnold.
All right, let's take some calls.
Let's see what we got here.
Okay.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Hey, Roosh, thanks for picking up my call.
Okay, how are you?
I'm good.
Okay, I'll just get straight to the thing.
It's about this question is about frame, not necessarily with women, but I'm just going to tell you what happened.
In my faculty, I'm in university.
So in my faculty.
And by the way, where are you?
Where are you calling from?
The Netherlands.
Netherlands.
Okay, cool.
And by the way, for people in the USA, faculty is the same as his major.
So in like the biology department or something like that.
Yeah, yeah.
So we have a bar.
And so the thing that happens at the bar, so at around a certain time, they serve food.
And this is like only my second time that I actually went to the bar.
So there's a rule that when they serve the food, the most senior people take it first, right?
So I didn't know about that.
So I took it, which is not really a big deal.
But you know, there's this one kid who's like a, you know, like a frat boy.
So he took, he's just like a year senior.
So he took that piece of snack or that piece of, yeah, the piece of snack and he took it off my hand and threw it on the floor.
What?
No, it's more of like, yeah, so it was like a really disrespectful thing.
That's grounds to fight.
Yeah, so it's kind of like it was, how would I put it?
Yeah, so I didn't follow the rules per se, but then he did that.
So the thing was, I was kind of pissed off.
So how should you react in that kind of situation?
Because one, you don't want to start a fist fight.
Why not?
At the same time, you don't want to see like.
Don't you want to start a fist fight?
I'll just say, listen, I'll say this over a piece of food.
If, but it's not over the food.
Okay.
It's a matter of he's trying to bitch you out.
He's saying, I am stronger than you.
I'm going to disrespect you in the means that I find at the moment because I'm better than you.
Now, if you were in a jail and you allowed that, you'd be raped that night.
Like you would basically show everyone that you are a weak person.
Now, am I the type of person that would at the moment feel such a massive amount of disrespect from someone over a food that I'm going to fight him and get kicked out of school?
Yes, probably, because I just, based on the Middle Eastern genes that I have, if I act on my impulse, it's usually one that leads to this emotional outburst.
So I would get in his face, or if he had a tray of food, I would slap it out of his face, or I would get food and smear it on him or something.
That's just, and it's not even if he was bigger than me.
I mean, I would probably get my ass kicked, but it's like, you what was your instinct when he did this?
What is your instinct at the minute that he did it?
Yeah, you kind of want to just like, you know, get at the same time.
So do it.
So do it.
Embrace it.
Yeah, but what about being non-reactive when somebody does?
I didn't, I don't teach that.
I don't know where you're getting that idea from.
I don't teach that stuff.
You know, I don't say, you know, I think the most healthy approach for a man is to react in the moment because if you were to hit him at that moment, it would have been the most pure thing you did all month, all year, probably.
You know, I go for what is a pure thing.
And for me, as a man, you know, of course, a day after when you're in jail or kicked out of school, you're like, oh, I shouldn't have done that.
You know, but the problem is, like, you feel bad about it still.
You feet, because you know it.
You got disrespected, bitched out by a man.
You didn't do anything.
Now you don't feel good.
You know, you feel like a weaker person.
It happened two weeks ago, and I kind of wanted to call last week, but you, yeah, I just heard you had a food.
That's fine.
Right now, it's more of like the next time this situation happens.
Okay.
Because I kind of got over it.
It's not really a big deal.
But the next time this kind of thing happens, it can be like various situations.
It doesn't happen too often, actually.
It happens like once in a long time.
Are you a small guy?
No, I'm six foot one.
You are six one.
Yeah.
And a dude is picking a fight with you.
Why is he picking a fight with you?
Is he freaking crazy?
In the Netherlands, in the Netherlands, six foot is the average height.
Okay.
Is he bigger than you?
Not bigger, but he's just slightly taller.
And he's like a year senior, though.
Dude.
So it's just like a guy who's more.
Okay, listen.
I'm not advocating for anyone to fight, but if you pick a fight inside somewhere, like inside a bar, inside a diner, the worst case is you get your ass kicked and then some guard comes and breaks it up.
If you get in a fight outside on the street, the worst case is you get your head knocked on the concrete.
So indoors, the risk is kind of low.
Outdoors, I don't advocate it.
I once got into a fight outdoors and almost got my ass killed.
But anyway, that is a story for another day.
But the point is, there was really you, I think you have to, you know, I think a lot of the problem that men have is that they're out of touch with their masculine side.
There is a part of you.
You came from men who killed, who raped, who robbed, who stole.
You know, you came from that.
If you are a human being alive, it's a guarantee you descended from men who did some pretty awful things.
So, really, it's just a matter of, I mean, the killer, the violent person is in you, you know.
But because we're raised in modern society, because we're raised in a modern era, you know, we're, you know, we're thoughtful, we don't want to react, we control ourselves.
And I say, fuck that.
You know, as long as you're willing to take the repercussions and in a fight, honestly, you're not going to go to jail for years.
I would say, do what you feel is best at the moment.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
So here, the first thing was, I'm actually not Dutch.
I'm an international student in the Netherlands.
Okay.
So, and where are you from?
Yeah, so okay, but I get your point, though.
Where are you from?
You know, I'm from, well, I don't know if I should say, but I'm from the other side of the world.
Okay.
Do you think that he picked on you due to your skin, skin color?
That could, no, I really don't know.
But the thing is, I don't really care about that instrument, uh, that incident too much.
The main question was: how do I really react in that situation?
For one, I just told you.
I just told you.
You can't logic your way out of this.
Okay, you don't, how do you have a plan for getting disrespected in an infinite number of ways?
You can't plan for that.
It's just going to happen.
It happens.
And either you win the battle or you lose the battle and go home crying about it.
So you lost.
And that's okay.
You can't win every battle.
But I advise to do what you feel.
If you're really a weak person, a pussy, then that's okay.
We can't all be strong.
But if you're not weak and you don't want to accept that, then you kick his ass.
That's it.
Okay.
And then if you get kicked out of school, if you get kicked out of the country, just don't blame me.
All right.
Okay.
Do you have time for another question?
Well, I already gave you half an hour, so I might as well.
Go ahead.
Come on.
So, no, I just wanted to say, like, thanks for there's a lot of, I'm a relatively new fan.
So there's a lot of things you said that I agree with.
Like, game is about cashing in your value, you know, about like if your parents are from one country and you grew up in another country, it's so easy for you to just leave and go somewhere else.
Those are things I agree with.
So I just want to say thanks for that.
And one last thing is like, in the university I'm in, there's way more guys than girls.
So what I do is I just do day game in another city, right?
But then occasionally I go to house parties.
And yeah, it's kind of fun, but you know, you have like 20 guys and then like, I don't know, like three girls.
So go to another party or be the top guy.
So don't even go.
Yeah, don't even go.
What are you going to do there?
Are you the top guy there?
Are you one of the top three men there?
Okay.
So then you shouldn't even go.
Okay.
Cool.
All right, man.
Yeah.
Dude, thanks a lot, man.
Share thing.
Bye-bye.
Yeah, bye.
Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't, I don't think you can teach a system on how to deal with being attacked, being personally, personally challenged.
Like me, I just go by what I what I feel.
And if I feel violence, then I'm going to do it.
You know, and if I get my ass kicked, then so what?
You know, if I die, so what?
You know, I think a lot of if you have the fear in you, you ain't gonna do and you and a man such as me, I can tell if a guy is scared or not.
Actually, you know, there's a story I can't tell everything, but I was with a friend of mine and two people, actually, not two, someone I knew came into the area and tried to bother me.
And there was a man, and I got in the face expressing how I don't appreciate being treated in such a way.
It's a long, you know, I feel bad.
I can't tell you guys exactly how it is, but it's a good, it's a pretty good story.
But anyway, I was ready to go.
I was ready to be like, look, man, you can't do this shit.
And I said what I wanted.
I can tell the guy he backed down.
And that was that.
And if you wanted to fight and I got my ass kicked, then it's fine, but I didn't.
And, you know, but I will say this, though.
I don't pick on men that I know could kick my ass unless I have an equalizer.
And that could be as simple as like a bottle.
You know, if a guy is MMA training and, but I have a bottle or a glass in my, you know, hand, what is he going to do?
Unless he has a knife.
Okay.
So if he has a knife, then I have a chainsaw bayonet.
That's enough of the tough guy stuff.
Let's go to this caller.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Hello.
Yep.
Yes.
Hi.
How's it going?
Pretty good.
How about you?
And where are you calling from?
Yeah, I'm good.
Thank you, Ber.
So I'm calling from London.
Okay.
I'm from France originally.
All right.
Yeah.
So I wanted to ask you a question.
Do you think that women love sex as much as men do?
I think they try to convince us that they do.
And usually when someone is trying to convince you of something, that usually means that there is a reason for that.
That means that on its face, it is not true.
And now, I'll just say this: that maybe they love sex as much as men do, but they sure don't work as hard.
They don't have to work as hard because for them, it's very, very easy.
So if you don't have to work hard for something, how can you value it?
You know, it's like me saying, I like food more.
I like food more than dogs do.
All right.
You know, I guess maybe that's true, but there's no way to really know.
So I have to look at it through an indirect way that they don't work for it.
They are due, in fact, very little amount of work in order to get laid.
So how much can they value it really?
So where does the difference come from then?
How come we have to do, as men, we have to do most of the work and they are being very selective and very picky.
Why are they more picky than men?
Why do men have sometimes when they're feeling very horny have to drop their standards in order to get the sex?
Whereas women, you know, they can get it very easily.
Why is that?
You know, you are asking me something that I cannot answer.
I'm not, I'm not God.
You know, why are humans the way they are?
I think it's more important to understand the what.
What is the sexes like?
What are the sexes like?
What are men like?
What are women like?
And take it from there and live your life.
But why?
I mean, even if I knew the answer to why, how would that, how would that actually help you out?
I think if you want to crack a system, it's always good to understand the way it works.
Humans are not a mystery to be solved.
It's not, women are not as safe that you have to understand what the combination is.
I understand that the marketing of a lot of PUA stuff is, you know, crack, crack the code, but there isn't one, and you're not going to because human nature, that's just the way they, huh?
You acknowledge that women are more picky, more selective than men, but yet you don't know why and you don't want to know why.
I, it's not that I don't want to know why, it's that I will never know why.
That is impossible.
You will never know why.
And you can waste your life trying to find out, but you will never know why women are the way that they are.
A lot of people try to find out.
They say because of evolution, environment, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, go ahead.
They can spend the time, but how does that help me?
You know?
So, no, I don't think that you're going to find out.
Last quick question: How do you do to keep your energy level high?
So, I know today you're sick.
Not catching the flu is the number one thing.
Sleep, honestly, sleep is very important.
I just, I try to get, I don't sleep well, so I have to be in bed for nine hours to get like seven hours of actual sleep.
But sleep, lay off the caffeine as much as you can.
Caffeine tends to reduce your energy over the long term.
And that's it.
And the one thing, as you get older, you're going to, you're not going to be able to do as much as you used to.
When you work out, you're going to need more time to rest.
I think a lot of people, as they get older, because they feel like they're getting smarter, they're getting closer to becoming someone, they do more and more and more.
But it's quite the opposite.
After 35 or so, you should be planning to do less and less.
So, me, I actually don't work as hard as I used to.
I don't go to the gym as much.
You're going to need more time just to unwind, just to chill.
So, less is more.
I mean, don't if you have a if you find yourself having a schedule where you're constantly busy and you don't even have time to sit, you're doing it wrong in the sense that you're just going to exhaust yourself.
Did you change your diet on a job a specific diet to keep yourself high energy?
I do.
I don't even, I don't know if I can classify myself as having high energy.
I think I'm one of the more low energy guys in the sense that it's low but stable.
But I eat two meals every day, so two large meals a day, one at 4 p.m. and one at midnight-ish.
And I just do that because I like eating two meals a day and it keeps my weight thin.
But I will say that eating big meals makes me extremely tired.
If I eat a big meal, I have to take, I have to take a nap afterwards.
But I find that some people find it better to eat small meals throughout the day.
That's fine.
But from a weight management standpoint, I think eating two meals a day or one is actually better.
But in terms of, it depends on what you mean.
What do you mean by having a high energy?
Do you mean like high energy to think high energy to be an athlete?
Both, to be honest with you.
My main, my main um focus is on uh, mental clarity.
I really want to have mental clarity and energy just to sustain okay, holding courts for mental talking to someone takes taxing on my energy level.
Going to a party is taxing on my energy level as well.
Talking to people, I mean, you know, able to be uh quick-witted, I don't know if you can really train someone to be more.
I mean, I think you're talking the difference between being an introvert and an extrovert, but for that you can't really change.
But for to be as mentally clear as possible, that's something else that doesn't take energy.
That takes minimizing the amount of this distractions that you have.
And most of the distractions that people face now come from their smartphone, all the notifications and their texting and the instagram and all that stuff.
So for mental clarity, what I do is cut the internet off.
I, before I go to bed, I cut the router off, so when I wake up I have nothing to do except to concentrate and sometimes now even to watch a movie, I have to turn the dang internet off because halfway through I want to check something and then it makes it hard to focus.
So i've been as i've.
I've been cutting the internet off even to do basic things, to go for like a walk.
I'll put my phone into airplane mode because it's just that, just just to check, and I don't even get a lot of text anyway, but still just to check twitter and something, for something new.
Maybe something is actually happening somewhere, but lately i've just been cutting the internet off.
My phone is only on for 10 to 12 hours a day.
So I would say, for mental clarity, that's your better option.
Okay, all right, I think that's.
It's something that.
So, before I go sorry, where do you live?
By the way, which country do you live?
I'd like to come and visit you okay um well, right now i'm living in eastern Europe somewhere I don't like to share exactly where, because a lot of haters they read me and if they know where they're going, to email the government or whatever and get me banned.
So but uh, unfortunately I can't really share it to people that I don't know.
Okay okay, that's okay, all right man, thanks a lot.
Sure, thank you very much.
Take care.
yeah you know but i think a lot of people kind of know where i currently am i don't care honestly if i get banned i don't i don't care anymore you know because you you can't live in in fear All right, we got a super chat.
We got one wow, busy super chat day.
He said thoughts on Iceland banning circumcision.
Excuse me uh, I don't.
I think that you should have the option if you want part of your dick cut off.
I didn't have that option and i'm circumcised.
I'm not mad at my mom or dad for doing it, but if I had the option when I was of legal age, I don't think I would do it.
So I think I don't.
I think that all you have to do is not ban it, but just say that you need to get the consent of the person.
So if if, unless it's a emergency, then you should get signed consent from the mail.
That's it, just like most surgical operations.
Why is this any different from, you know, heart surgery?
I don't know all right.
So yeah, you can send me a super chat if you want to ask me something or call in.
So let's go to the next caller.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Hey, how's going, Rouge?
Pretty good.
How about you?
Doing well.
And where are you calling from?
Orlando, Florida.
Orlando.
Okay.
I want to ask: have you ever had any spiritual or religious views that you could quickly just state?
I would say I am more agnostic than anything.
I was baptized when I was around 12, 13 in an Armenian apostolic church in Washington, D.C., which is like on the Orthodox Christian branch.
Did that put a guardian angel on my shoulder?
It could have.
So I've read some basic texts and so on.
But I would say for me to be, I think the possibility of me becoming a full-blown religious person would be possible if there was a community that I was a part of.
But since I'm not, I'm the most rootless atomized person living in an apartment alone with just a couple of friends and random women who come and go.
That you know, I don't think I'm in the place to really embrace it fully.
That's understandable.
But I'm curious.
So you do believe there is a spiritual realm kind of undergirding this physical realm.
I think there is a good chance that there is, but I don't know.
I don't think as a human being, I'm really qualified to know whether there is or there is not something.
You know, I think that there could be, but I don't know.
You don't, you've never had like a sense of the numinous?
No, I've never had a feeling, a spiritual feeling, no.
Or just any kind of like a premonition dream.
I've had a lot of dreams.
Yeah, I've had dreams, but not a vision, while I lost
connection.
I'm looking at that too.
It looks like they cut you off.
I think I'm back, right?
Hold on, I'm coming back.
Okay, I am back online.
So anyway, no, dream.
So now I know what you're getting at, but I really haven't had that.
You know, if I did have that, I probably have a more stronger religious conviction.
But I just, this is why I've kind of, I'm open to it.
I'm open to answers that religion can actually give.
But I think our society at this time of the world is so far gone that it is not going to help right.
I feel like we're past a point where just faith can kind of help.
And I'm kind of back in the might makes right type of deal where I think it's going to take raw power and strength.
Of course, you can argue that who gives you the power, but God does, right?
But I don't know.
You know, I don't have the answers there, but I do keep an open mind.
Okay, man.
That's very, that's very understandable.
I respect that.
Okay, great.
All right, man.
Thank you.
Thank you, Kevin.
Thanks, Michael.
Bye-bye.
So did they just try to shut it down or is it my crappy internet?
I don't know.
But I think people are still here.
So I guess we're back online.
All right.
So I'm actually using a separate internet for the live, for the live callers.
So that's why they are still here.
Dorian said, I think that pug behind you just moved.
Of course he did, because he's real.
He's a real bug.
Hello, Carla.
You're now live.
Hello.
Hello.
Yep.
How are you?
I'm doing fine.
And where are you calling?
I don't know if you remember me.
I'm from your previous streams, Michigan.
Okay.
The autism.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
And I think I talked to your sister.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what a lot of has happened, actually.
Okay.
Well, since I was not getting results and interacting with people in real life, I went online on Craigslist.
Craigslist.
Is that still online?
Yeah.
Okay.
And by the way, are you on speakerphone?
Because you're not coming in good.
I can't really speak because my parents figure out what them hearing this, you know.
Okay.
All right.
So you went on to Craigslist.
Okay.
I like where this is going.
And then?
So I met these two people.
Hold on.
I don't want anyone hearing this.
So I met these two people.
One was some like a woman and then another one was a couple.
Okay.
Well, the couple were actually went somewhere.
So I think it's actually.
Did you have to do anything with the man?
Well, he just wanted to watch and I guess occasionally touch, but that's about it.
So wait, the man wanted you to wanted to only watch you do something with his girl?
What?
Pretty much.
It's kind of weird.
I mean, because in the text, he was like, I've never seen another guy touch her.
And then towards the end, too, he was like, he was joking, but he's like, oh, I was afraid I might kill you or something.
Was this woman fat?
No, no, not at all.
She's like, if she wasn't like, if she didn't have the marriage home, she'd be like one of those hot little next door, basically.
So wait, this man got cucked by a young man with autism?
Well, they don't know that part, but yeah.
Wow, I've never heard about that.
But hey, man, good, good for you, I guess.
I mean, I was paying her.
She only gave me a hand job and bulljobs.
Oh, well, that's not that bad.
Looks like the husband kind of was, you know.
Hold on, was the husband jerking off at the time that the wife or whatever was stimulating you?
Oh, yeah.
So he was jerking off.
So you could see him jerking his dick off.
I tried to not really pay attention to them.
All right.
Okay.
And then what?
Pretty much that was it.
But the next call, this one's a serious person.
The next person was a Mexican woman.
Okay.
Was she short and stumpy?
I don't kind of.
Yeah, sure and stumpy.
You're just trolling, dude.
Come on, man.
Well, this method is serious.
All right, yeah, serious.
Okay, so what did the short and stumpy Mexican girl do to your ding-dong?
Well, she didn't really do anything because she just, because when she first answered my ass, she was doing like a date.
I was like kind of surprised.
Oh, man, this is when we met up.
Wait, what?
What?
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
So we met up at Starbucks.
And then apparently the reason why she responds to my head is because she likes guys of my race.
Apparently.
Okay.
I guess something to do with race fantasy or something.
Are you because apparently?
Are you black?
I don't want to refer my race because 4chan could easily track me.
Let's just put that late.
But Asian.
You are, you don't sound like an Asian dude, that's for sure.
Oh, it's kind of a long story.
Well, why don't you put your young new bile sister back on the line?
She's not here.
She had a cyber exam.
What would you rate her?
Well, what would the average man rate her on a scale of one to 10?
A Mexican?
Your sister.
Oh, this has nothing really to do with her, but.
Well, I'm trying to, well, I'm trying to get away from what is obviously fake to something that is real.
How old is she?
She's 16.
Oh, damn.
Well, anyways, I am very happy for you that just a month ago, you called.
You couldn't even talk to anyone, completely clueless, scared of human interaction.
And now, because of me, you're cucking some dude and getting action from a short and stumpy Mexican girl.
Another Roosh miracle.
Well, I didn't get any action, though, because she lost interest.
Well, if you keep it up and keep being the race that you are, you will.
So thank you, Caller, and goodbye.
These people, man.
But listen, you know, there's a reason that I am still one of the biggest PUAs because my advice works.
See how my advice helps this autistic man get an action on some wife while another man beats off?
Yeah.
Who can give you that?
Who can give you that type of awesome action?
I can.
All right, we got a super chat.
Edward King, he donated $15.
Thank you, Edward.
He says, hey, Roosh, love the live streams.
Quick question.
How is the yellow fever coming along?
And when can we expect Bang Bangkok to be released?
Thank you.
I got some bad news, Edward.
The yellow fever is gone.
I only had her for like a couple of weeks.
It wasn't real.
I was like all into Asian girls.
And then now it's gone.
I just, I had it for like a minute.
I don't think I can do it.
So, sorry about that.
Sorry that the Asian invasion is not going to be happening anytime soon.
Bang Bangkok.
I don't see it.
So unless I can catch it.
I don't know.
I think the white girls, I think I banged a white girl or two since then, and they actually cured it.
Ah, these damn white girls.
They give me no value outside of sex, but sex is so important.
They don't give me love.
All they give me is sex.
But it's so easy with them.
Man, I mean, I think if I keep this up, I'm just going to be getting shallow sex forever.
No love, nothing more.
But as long as I can get laid, why change anything?
Is it really broke?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it, bro.
Because it's such a risk to leave a country that you can get laid from because you have to understand when you're 38, man, you get laid.
You get laid when you can, and you like it.
It's good.
And you're 27.
Doesn't matter.
Wow, you get laid.
But you're 38.
You're old.
Look at all this gray I got.
I'm old as shit, man.
And what's crazy is the average age of the girls I'm banging hasn't changed.
Like I'm getting older and they're still, it's like around 23 to 25 now.
Yeah, under 22 now, I don't, it's basically done.
But 23, that's, I can still do that.
It's, and, and it's a miracle, man.
It's a miracle that 38-year-old man can make sweet love with a 23-year-old.
But I will say this, though, I am starting to feel that the amount of daddy issues some of these girls I'm getting with have.
I'm starting to feel it.
Like, I think they pick me because I remind them of the daddy that never gave them any love, which means they fucked my brains out.
It's kind of sad, I know.
Oh, oh, man, some guys in the chat are very salty that a man of my stature can still get laid.
It ain't that hard.
It's not like launching a car into outer space.
All right, let's take the next caller.
Hello, Caller.
You're now live.
Bruce, you're doing a lot of work.
We appreciate you very much.
It's good to talk with you.
Thank you, brother.
And where are you calling from?
We'll just call it Northern Georgia.
Georgia, okay.
And what is going on there?
Well, most important thing, I finally got you on the line talking with you.
Okay.
You got came across Kronos.
I don't know how recent that was where you kind of like you locked horns with the thoughts.
Oh, God.
Yep.
Was that recent?
Was that in the past few weeks?
Because I just stumbled upon the fun.
That was like a month ago.
I think like three weeks ago, I was invited to, okay, I know it was described as blood sports, but I was really going in for just a friendly chat, a little bit of trolling, and these women just so angry.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
The troll was epic.
I would read the comments, and it's amazing how people are so snowed, and they don't get the fact that you're, you know, how to push the buttons, you know how to aggravate.
And it's like those two screaming harpies were going off.
I could tell Lauren was a little, but being in her political realm, she wasn't going to be baited that easy.
Did you pick up on that too?
Yeah, I didn't want to start a war with her.
I don't know.
I just, I mean, a lot of people are like, Rouge, start a war with Lauren.
She's doing this.
I don't know.
I mean, if she makes me mad, then I would, but she hasn't made me mad.
She came at me kind of, kind of stern, actually.
Now that I saw the video one more time and she was more stern than I would have liked, maybe I should have gone a bit harder on her.
But one thing that I get from the comments is that a lot of people are just angry that I didn't treat the women like they were an equal to me.
Like they were just so angry that I spoke down at them instead of treating them as my intellectual equal.
So I think that's all you have to do to make a lot of these leftist types really mad is just treat women how they should be treated, you know.
But of course, this is going to get me banned from the internet, but at that time, but I really truly don't debate a woman.
I don't do that.
Who does?
I don't know.
There's no man I know that would actually debate a woman.
I don't know.
Maybe, listen, if you do it and you can win those, that's fine.
But I've never seen a man honestly win a debate, an argument.
It's just, it doesn't actually happen.
Yeah, you totally proved that point.
You could see it clearly.
It's like you just can't win.
I mean, the screaming harpies were just going crazy.
And you came across so anti-fragile.
I mean, you really.
But I think more important point, the second point I'm getting to, is Rich, you were going over, what was it, why women shouldn't aspire to corporate jobs, higher education, like that.
I think it was a couple weeks ago, your live, your live stream.
And guys, I'm just here to tell you, this is my personal experience.
I'm married every 20 years.
Got two great kids, great wife.
She's a variable unicorn, if you will.
But this is why you don't because, you know, I'm a CA.
I got a little girl on the side.
She approached me hard.
And guess what?
She's married to somebody else.
And how did you find your wife?
It was a long time ago.
It was kind of like a college sort of thing.
Okay.
I don't really want to do too much detail.
Yeah, sure.
I think what I want to prove to these guys out there who say who are game deniers and say that game does not work, it does.
Because I'm going to have your life while you're at work.
I mean, I think all, I mean, if there's still someone right now that says game doesn't work, we have to assume that he's just gay.
I mean, that really is it.
I mean, it's just, you don't even have to say game works.
You just see it.
You just see the type of men that women go after.
Men with status and looks and fame, money, quality, value, with muscles, with the right attitude.
You just see it.
That's, that's game.
That's game, you know?
I mean, of course, wearing a fuzzy hat isn't game.
I mean, maybe it was for a second, but I mean, women want high-value men.
And guess what?
You can at least, until you get going, simulate that.
But I've got to explain the situation.
I mean, it's like she's kind of a higher corporate value woman, has a totally, obviously cucked husband, beta blue balls husband, because I'm butt fucking his wife.
And then this is no troll.
I mean, I've got to get this off my chest.
I mean, she's the type.
She brings chains, she brings the butt plug, she brings the dildo.
I mean, can I talk about this stuff on the stream?
I mean, I think so.
Yeah.
Okay.
So she's definitely no troll.
Basically, you're saying that she wants you to basically degrade her totally in all of her three available holes.
Pretty much.
Trifecta, for sure.
Oh, God.
My point is, guys, game does work.
Even when you're sitting back, you're not really asking for it.
If your frame is tight and you're working out, you're taking care of yourself.
They come and look for you because their beta blue husbands are busy working, being providers, but they're not getting reamed at home.
Yeah, I'm a total cad.
I own it.
I have no reason to do this.
I would say her reasons are much more nefarious than mine.
Okay.
But you got your own wife on lockdown, I hope.
Absolutely.
Okay, good.
Because these days, I'm seeing men let their significant others get away with anything.
I mean, you, you have, I mean, I'm not saying you, but a lot of men, their wives are going to party, going to clubs.
Are you kidding?
I mean, I'm just saying.
I mean, what do you think happens there?
That's this other kind.
I mean, you're asking what my opinion or my theory is on that.
No, I'm just saying.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know if you know of men who are married to women that these women are obviously doing something, but these men have such a blind trust for a woman just because she signed a contract or just because she says, I love you.
You know?
Oh, yeah.
He's this rash of school teachers in America that they're kind of cute and they're sleeping with their students and stuff.
And their husbands are shooting daggers at these kids who screwed their wives in court.
I mean, go figure.
You're not providing a basic key element in their life.
But I will say, though, you know, I'm happy that you have developed into a Chad.
You know, that's the meme now.
Chad is the man who knows what he's doing.
But unfortunately, some of the younger men, 20 to 25, they have been bombarded since they were young by all the propaganda, toxic masculinity, now male supremacy.
That I'm afraid these younger men don't have a real shot to be like, say, you in the sense of, you know, understanding the true nature of women and having it work in his favor.
Well, that's, you know, that's the beauty of having two sons.
You know, one's 16, one's 19.
And it's like to really teach them how things work.
And you see their eyes open.
They come up and they bump you in the shoulder and they're like, hey, that girl is trying to seduce you, dad.
Or, you know, she was flipping her hair around.
It's like they're getting it.
They're seeing it.
Good, good.
And if you can.
And if you ever want me to sign a copy of my book, Bang Win to give to one of your sons, I would be happy to.
That's high praise, brother.
That is high praise.
But you were talking about other men and stuff and being around and being aware.
You know, out of like maybe the five or six guys that I know, there's only one to two that I can actually go and talk about this stuff with.
And not to be a self-prescribed alpha and not to be braggadocious, but it is what it is.
You know what you are, you know when you walk down the street, you know when your frame is tight, you know when you're being observed, you know, you can make a move anytime you wanted.
It's not, it's not being a braggart, it just is what it is.
Hey, man, if, and, and if you do want to brag, as long as you can back it up, no one is going to hate you for it.
Well, true, it's like you know, I'm one of those uh what do you call it?
Uh, introverted braggarts, only bragging myself in the mirror, so to speak.
But me, I don't like to brag only because I want people to have the lowest expectation of me possible, so that even when I show up, people are like, Wow, this guy is amazing.
So, I don't want people to think, uh-huh.
Do you think that kind of like helps reinforce the anti-fragile mindset?
I mean, I think usually people's perception of you is based on their expectation versus what they see.
So, if you can keep that expectation low and then show up as maybe intelligent, attractive, interesting, then they'll actually have more attraction for you than if their expectation of you was high and you merely delivered on that high expectation.
So, I like at least on the internet, I don't play myself up, you know.
So, I want it when people think I'm dumb.
You know, they say, Oh, Roosh's, I, I, IQ is low, he's dumb.
So, I like it when people underestimate me.
Section while you were, you know, on that Kronos thing, that four-way or whatever, talking to that one chick who was just me, why her husband was you upstairs?
Yeah, I'm did you ask something?
You mean anybody think about it?
No, no, I was just like making comments here.
I was just thinking out loud, okay.
Um, no, because the way I see that, yeah, it's like if man, if a girl is emotionally involving energy into me and she has a boyfriend or she has a husband, oh no, I feel bad.
A woman doesn't emotionally invest herself into a man she doesn't care about.
So, I mean, I see it, I see what's going on.
Her freaking husband is upstairs and she's engaging me with everything.
You know, focus on me.
If she was a single girl, I it could go either way, but she already has a guy.
Why are you investing so much energy into someone else?
You know, but then when you point this out, people like, oh no, Roosh, she was just trying to prove that you're wrong, that you're dumb.
No, man, it's about more than that.
You have to always look at the sexual subtext, do it, cuts to the heart of everything.
People say that it's superficial, but it is not.
Guys, young guys listening on your channel right now, women who are you know lurking around, you know, it's true.
You cannot negotiate desire, either have it or you don't.
And when you get married, you must continue the game your spouse.
Okay, all right, caller.
So, let me get to some of these other callers, but thank you for calling in, Rich.
Appreciate you very much.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Bye-bye.
I would love to chat all day.
Uh, so actually, the one thing he uh talked about, he said that this girl he's sleeping with on the side brings the butt plugs.
I had a girl that was like, You can do me in the butt, and I've never done that.
I have never done a girl in the butt because it's gross.
And I say, I can, and I'm thinking about it.
I'm like, I am getting older.
Maybe I should, maybe I should try it out, even though it's gross.
And then she says, Yeah, but just to warm me up, you got to put your finger in it.
I said, What was that?
She's like, Yeah, you just got to put your finger in it first, get it loose, and then you can do me.
I swear to God, I said, I'll pass.
That's all right.
I, you know, I think I want to die without having to do a girl in the butt.
I don't really see it as something that I need to do.
It's not on a bucket list of things that I have to do.
All right, we got super chat.
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You helped me recover from a rough divorce, Persian girl, no less, rediscover my masculinity, and pull more tail than a five-year-old at a pet shop.
Another Roosh miracle.
Look at that.
That is great.
I am very happy that my work can help men.
And we got another super chat from Mike New.
He says, Roosh, major props to you in the path you've taken over the past few years.
Majorly inspired.
I need more Returning Kings podcasts.
I consider your stoicism one a personal classic.
Thank you, Mike.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, doing podcasts, it takes a lot of work.
So doing a live stream is very easy.
You just got to set up the equipment, push the button, and that's it.
But doing a podcast, you got to draft the outline, record it, edit the recording.
So much work.
To do like an hour podcast takes about four hours.
All right.
Let's do another call.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Caller?
Hello, Roosh.
Yeah.
Roosh.
Yeah.
You hear me?
I can hear you fine.
Hi, this is Pajit.
I want to know.
Oh, wait, look, I call from US and Day.
First, I want to know how I get the white woman.
How do I get the white woman with blonde hair?
Oh, now, where are you originally from?
I thought I'm from India, India.
India.
Because you have a your accent sounds a bit off.
Well, you know, I've been here for a little while.
I just want to know how they get white women.
I mean, I think I can do a better Indian accent.
So you be telling me Burlapag will not work.
All right.
Let's see now.
Let me, I think this is the first time ever.
I'm going to show off my own Indian accent.
I am calling the Rush show right now, and I am trying to get the white women.
So what do you think?
They're pretty good.
Pretty good.
Better than yours.
Yeah, quite a bit.
All right.
How do I get the white woman?
I don't know.
Oh, this is very, very tough.
Very tough.
Yeah.
I think if you were a real caller, it would be a little bit easier.
But practice that accent a little bit more and then call me back.
I think we already had those types of calls.
Now, if he was a real Indian guy, I'm that's fine with me.
I don't see any see anything wrong with the Indian guy trying to bang a certain type of woman.
He wants to bang a white girl, and I have tips for him.
Tip number one: lose the accent.
I mean, shit, I don't see it's not up to me to decide or to say who should sleep with you know who.
You know, I know it angers a lot of people when a black man sleeps with a white girl.
For me, I see that.
I'm like, oh, well, you know, that's a sign of the times.
But I don't care.
All right, let's take this call.
Hello, caller.
You're now alive.
Hey, Roosh.
Yo.
Roosh, great to be on.
I'm calling from Ukraine.
Ukraine, okay.
And are you a native or are you from somewhere else?
Oh, Nyapnyet.
Yas, California.
Oh, California.
You got to learn that.
And I'm guessing you're learning the Russian to improve your odds with the local girls, huh?
Um, actually, I, okay, my Russian's still pretty bad, but whenever I approach, I always do it in English because it's like it's an automatic DHV.
That's right.
Um, I have a buddy here, he's like half Aussie, half uh Ukrainian, spent like half his half the first part of his life in Ukraine and the second half in Australia.
He always approaches in uh in Russian.
I told him to try English, and like when he did, like it, it was what isn't even comparable to his results.
Like the girls just automatically open up when you when you go up to them and speak English, yeah, because I mean, there I can only imagine now with girls not really wanting to stay there anymore, that to announce from the get-go that you're from a rich, developed country should probably help get a conversation started, right?
But to bang them, that is another story, yeah, that is another story.
Um, ever since I got my money and my logistics squared away, I've been here like over two years now, and ever since like I got my money and legit, I just got a work permit at my company, I work in IT.
Okay, and um, like it's going good for me here, and like I started, I started getting some quality that I that I'd always wanted in the last year.
But my problem is when like ever since I got my money and logistics squared away, like I don't want to, I always thought I wanted to like settle down here and like I don't know, maybe start a family here later on and like buy some properties.
But fuck, whenever, whenever I'm with a girl, it doesn't matter how hot she is.
If I keep seeing her, I go into this like relationship mode and it feels like I'm a parent taking care of a child and I just lose interest.
Well, that's how it is there.
How it is there is the man takes care of the woman, everything, everything, and her only responsibility to you is to look really good.
And at least you Ukrainian girls in bed, they let you do whatever.
They just lay there like a dead fish and they have no expectations.
That's one thing I like.
You know, a lot of people are like, Roosh, man, the girls in Ukraine, they suck in bed.
No, that's great because they don't say, oh, I'm still horny.
Or I did not come yet.
They don't say any of that.
So anyway, that's the good part.
But yeah, that's how it is there.
Are raised to find a provider, you, and you take care of them, and she's going to look good.
That's it.
Now, if you have, if you have kids, she's going to take care of them.
Of course, you have to pay for everything.
But if you're raised in the USA, to you, that's like, wait a second, doesn't she want to work?
Doesn't she want to get a job?
Doesn't she want to contribute?
But I mean, of course, she's going to take care of the house and cook and things like that.
But really, the main thing she's going to do is look good up until that point.
No, I get it.
I get it, man, that that's her only job.
And like, if I'm with a girl and like I settle down, I don't want her.
I mean, she has the option, but she doesn't have to work, you know.
But like, like, I read Bang, and I was just curious.
Do you want a girl to work?
I mean, she can if she's in the wrong country.
I figure I can't.
Leave.
You are in the wrong country because I think you it nags at you, probably.
It nags at you that this girl ain't doing shit.
She's just spending all day on her hair and nails.
She ain't doing anything.
She doesn't want to do anything.
She's just looking for a big fish and she found me and she thinks she's done.
And the pussy's good.
And that's it.
And it's kind of bothering you.
Yeah, it's fucking bothering me.
Well, it ain't going to change.
That is how it is there.
It's not going to change.
So either accept it or leave.
Should I go to Poland?
Where would you recommend from here?
What about Moscow?
Moscow is imagine you Cranian girls with higher expectations and not as good looking in a more expensive, in a more expensive country, too.
Poland, imagine increasingly Americanized sluts that are getting fatter.
There's some value in Poland, I hear, but it is not what it used to be when I wrote the book on it in 2011.
It is not that good anymore.
Also, if you are used to the beauty where you are at, to go to Poland, it's going to be a downgrade, man.
A big downgrade.
I've had many guys.
Yeah.
I've seen them like the first week from Ukraine.
They went to like another country and they're like, Roosh, all the girls here are so ugly.
I'm like, what?
They're beautiful.
But it's not that the girls really were ugly.
It's because they came from like the most beautiful country.
You know, Kiev.
Come on.
Kiev, you're not going to find more beautiful girls.
Where else?
Moscow, even.
I don't think so.
I've been to both.
Kiev has way more.
So basically, you are screwed, buddy.
Because either you have to sacrifice on the looks or sacrifice on the values.
Which do you want?
Yeah, I don't know, man.
I don't know.
But I guess I am screwed.
I'm stuck in Kiev.
If you ever come out here, like, it'd be cool to buy you a beer, but I don't know how often you make it out to Ukraine these days.
I'll say that I'm getting tired of the city that I am in.
And as soon as my new book starts to finish, I will be taking trips.
So I may be in your neck of the woods.
So after this call, drop me an email.
Thanks, Roosh.
Bye-bye.
All I know is that if I stay in the country that I am in, I'm going to be stuck with only sluts that ask me to put my finger in their butthole.
That's it.
I see what my future is here.
All I'm good at is banging sluts in this place.
Now, believe it or not, I have been able to meet some nice girls, virgins, even.
But where I'm at, this specific place is a place for sluts, worthless sluts that give it up, whether they have boyfriend, husband, they want me to do them in their butthole.
Jesus Christ.
These women, man.
But it's so hard to leave.
Come on, it's sex, man.
Sex is, it feels good when you are doing it, when you're doing the gorilla on kitten mode.
You know, because it gives, because when you bang a girl that looks good for like, you know, a couple of days, you're kind of high about it.
And then your balls are really drained.
Because when I get a girl here, I'm going to drain those balls.
I'm draining it four times.
So then I don't have to think about sex for at least a week, maybe even two weeks if I'm tired or something or if I'm busy.
So for a week or two, that new bang is like, damn, that this is a great place.
But then after that, you're like, wait a second, I ain't get anything out of that.
I just drain these hairy balls.
And then you're thinking, oh, it's time to go.
I'm going to leave.
But let me hit this club on Saturday night.
And you go to this dumbass club, 38.
You're in a club.
And then another slut comes and she gives you eye, eye contact.
And you're like, here we go again.
And the game starts.
You know, hit her with a line.
I know what to do.
Same process.
It's like I'm stuck.
Give them your big Persian schlong ruch.
I do.
I do, but they don't, I don't know.
I mean, you can't, like I said last time, you can't bang a slut twice because you bang a slut twice, then it starts to hit you that you are her.
See, this is the kind of girl that you want to spend time with.
Look at you.
Contacting a whore, a slut.
Why?
Because, you know, but when you get a girl that's new, your mind is so clouded with this novelty.
It's like such an exciting conquest.
You're like, oh, I don't care.
You don't even see it.
You don't see anything except this new thing.
This is going to be so amazing.
But then once you bang a slut, the next time, you feel like crap.
Okay.
Here we go.
We have a comment.
LOL.
Come on, Roosh.
Don't overthink it.
Telling me not to overthink it is like telling a cat not to lick himself.
Come on now.
Hello, caller.
You're now live.
Caller.
Oh, this German caller again.
German guy keeps calling me singing some German song.
This stream was shut down by the ADL.
All right, we got a super chat, I think.
All right, we got a $2 super chat from We Need Common Sense Jew Control.
He says, keep unregulated Jews off the street.
That is anti-Semitic.
If I've ever seen something, that is wrong.
I should refund that $2, but I'm not.
All right, then we got $10 from Gary Bacchus.
He says, found your articles in 2013.
You helped me, Roosh.
I love the streams.
Thank you very much, Gary.
Another Roosh miracle.
We had a caller earlier.
It says, Roosh, do you believe in God with all these people that I'm helping?
I do know.
Because only God would give me the power to help other people.
Good old God.
All right.
We got another caller.
Hello, Collier.
You're now live.
Hello.
Yep.
Oh, shit.
One second.
I was just eating chicken nuggets taking a fat vape.
No problem.
Let me take off my headphones.
Put your phone up to my ear.
Okay.
All right.
Forrest with my question.
Can I just quickly say one thing?
Sure thing.
All righty.
I don't know if it's like my former blue-tilled self or if I'm a bit beta, but that whole comment about the virgins and then just taking their virginities made me a bit more.
No, no, no.
I never said I slept with them.
I met some virgins that are actually, I met two in the past year that are saving themselves for marriage.
So I did not sleep with them.
Well, it's a little bit of the poll coming out making me a bit angry with, you know, but even if I did, if they sleep with me on the first date, the second date, what does that say about them?
Does that mean that they were saving themselves?
You know, every slut used to be a virgin.
So are you going to white knight for every single slut out there?
No, I think it's more based in your merits of being able to have sex with women, Roosh.
So you think that my game is so good that a girl who, after 20 years of being taught the correct values, is just going to magically open her legs because she meets me?
That's the Persian persuasion.
Come on, man.
Come on.
A girl only does what she already decided.
You know, girls don't do, listen, a lot of guys think I gamed her.
You ain't game shit.
She decided before she even met you that it's time for her to get fucked.
And you happen to be the best option on that night.
Okay.
Now, I can, you know, tell you all day long that my game is great.
It's okay.
It's good.
But I'm not convincing a girl who doesn't like me to like me.
I'm not convincing a girl who doesn't want to have sex to have sex.
Okay.
All game is, is making yourself the best option for a girl who is considering some kind of intimacy.
That's all it is.
Okay.
Well, now that we're done with that, Fat Re and the chat boys, I wanted to follow up with you because I was on one of your live streams in the past.
I was, you remember the guy who called about the virginity thing and asked you if I should fucking escort and you're like, nah, just wait.
Vaguely, yes.
Okay, so I took your advice and I ended up hooking up with the girl.
Actually, I ended up hooking up with four girls since January.
Another miracle.
Another miracle in the chat, boys.
Roosh miracle in the chat.
All right.
So the first one initiated with me, no game whatsoever.
Second one, I initiated.
I just escalated sexually until stuff happened.
And then I just threw your advice out of the window and I ended up fucking two escorts.
Oh, four women.
Yeah.
So here's my problem now, Roosh.
So the girls that I ended up hooking up with from university, able to bust nut escorts, no nuts were busted.
But after I hooked up with every single one of them, I just felt empty inside.
And I just don't think hooking up is for me.
I don't know.
Everybody else seems to be pretty happy about it, but I just do you like help me out?
I just okay, sure.
Hold on.
You called, I said, don't try to bang any kind of escort.
Then you call me, say, Roosh, it was wrong of you to bang a virgin.
By the way, I went against your advice and bang some of these escorts, and now I feel bad.
Are you confused or something?
You're either really confused or trolling the fuck out of me.
Which one is that?
I'm not trolling the fucking.
So you are confused.
Yeah, but I took your advice.
I didn't lose my virginity to an escort.
I ended up hooking with two girls from class.
So what was wrong with them that you had to go to an escort anyway?
It seemed like you made up your mind.
I'm going to fuck a hook.
Because it wasn't very enjoyable at all, Roosh.
And this is what I'm asking.
I'm asking.
Did you have an orgasm?
Or hookups just with the two first two girls?
Yeah, not with the fucking hookers.
Did it feel good?
Usually orgasms, they feel good.
It's like one girl.
Yeah, like I felt fucking sad ass.
So then don't do it.
I wanted a fucking, I wanted a fucking cuddle, Roosh.
I just.
Okay, okay.
I just, it feels, I'm not shit postering or anything.
I know you're not.
I'm sure you're being true.
Okay, listen.
Am I feeling this empty?
Listen, this kind, I think you're full of shit, but I'll say this.
Usually this kind of empty feeling comes after you've been doing it a while.
Not the first time.
You're full of shit, man.
So, but listen, if you're not, then all I can say is if it's making you feel bad, then don't do it.
I'm not telling you to do it.
If you don't want to bang girls, then don't bang.
I don't care.
Everybody thinks I'm a troll.
Okay.
Are you?
Do I sound do I sound this full of shit?
Do you have a mirror in front of you?
Are you like looking at yourself?
How do you feel?
Do you feel good that people in the chat are talking about you?
Honestly, Roosh, what I wanted to call you for is honestly.
Okay, so everything else was complete bullshit.
No, it wasn't complete bullshit.
Let's get to it.
If this hookup thing is not for me, should I just like try to pursue an LTR or something?
Because I don't know if I'm doing it.
I mean, I think that for many men, that is the best option.
To be able to bang random girls is Something that not every man can do.
It's either in you or not.
And if it's not in you, then don't do it.
Don't put, if you're a square peg, don't try to jam yourself into a triangle hole.
But assuming I think you're probably telling me something that's based on a little bit of truth, but you are exaggerating it because you're jerking off to what the live chat says about you.
If it doesn't feel good, then don't do it.
It's as simple as that.
But for me to bring home a random girl, it feels good.
So I do it.
Now you can tell me, Roosh, you're just a man whore.
You're a slut.
Okay, that's fine.
No, no, I have nothing against it.
In fact, I was kind of trying to aim to be like, not trying to make you my idol or anything, but I thought, you know, you're pretty cool.
I want to do something like that.
It just doesn't feel right to me.
You know, I know it's good for you and it's good for whoever works.
I'm not saying it's good for me.
I'm not saying banging slush is good for me.
But I'm saying that at the moment, when I'm doing it, it feels good.
In the aftermath, I don't, uh-huh.
Like, the issue is with both of the girls that I hooked up with, like, if it seems like they're only interested in sex.
You like have the stories about, oh, the girls get attached and shit after.
I don't know if I'm just shit at sex.
I don't have a lot of stories, but okay.
But it seems like they're just interested in hooking up.
And, you know, I kind of want a relationship and having a hard time finding it.
You know, a lot of guys have this problem too.
It isn't easy, but you're just going to have to take your time and find a girl who's a little bit harder to get into the sack.
If she's going to hook up with you, if she drinks alcohol, she's doing it.
That's what she wants to do.
A lot of girls now, until their career, their bullshit career is established, they're just going to hook up.
The only time they're going to stay with a guy is if his value is very high.
If she believes that he's best at all.
Listen here, chat.
You guys are fucking mixing everything up.
I hooked up twice with two girls that I didn't pay, and then I hooked up twice with two girls that I didn't.
Why do you care what they say?
Who cares?
Because you're the only caller that's don't read them.
Okay, I won't read.
Don't ever start a website, a blog, because you know how many hater comments that you get?
You get billions of them.
All right, caller.
So I hope I solved your problem for now.
I still consider you a Ruch miracle because you actually hooked up.
But Roosh, next time I call you, I'm going to have an LTR GF that I find to marry, and I'll let you know what's going on then.
Okay, great.
I'll even name one of my kids after you.
That is middle name, probably.
That is fine.
All right, man.
All right.
Take care, buddy.
Take care, buddy.
He's giggling over there.
But you live chat, you assholes, you hurt him.
How can you hurt my dear callers?
He's reading you and you're saying hateful things to this genuine caller who is not trolling.
All right, let's see.
We got another super chat.
Chad Thundercock, that's a nice name.
He says, Roosh miracle, I Skype boned Lauren Southern.
Good job.
You are not the only one.
And our Caddy's video donated $5.
Thank you.
Why does this guy keep spamming my?
Will you go on the turd flinging monkey show?
Who the hell is that?
All right, we got another super chat from Stoker.
Hi, my name is Artie.
I'm dating this fat girl with green hair.
Should I keep dating?
Yes.
Those are hard to find.
Yeah, if, I mean, you obviously enjoy it, or else you wouldn't have started banging her.
I'd keep going.
Vink Own says, Roosh, your last book should be Bang X, Last Bang, How I Got Killed by the Masad after writing Mind Bang, How to Bang Israeli Women.
All right, we got a couple more callers, and I got maybe 10 more minutes.
Hello, Caller, you're now live.
Oh, hey, hey, man.
How you doing?
What's going on?
Where are you calling from?
I'm coming, calling from southern U.S. Southern U.S.
Okay.
So let me think about what question I want to get to first here.
So, okay, here's the first question.
Roosh, have you ever used Tinder whatsoever or used any online platform?
Have you always just abandoned that without a doubt?
I have used Tinder a few months ago just to get a feel of it.
Because, I mean, a lot of guys, they talk about it.
So I just wanted to know what the app is like.
And in the place I'm in, my value isn't bad.
So I was getting a lot of matches from girls who were good looking.
But the issue is after you match, they waste your time, man.
They're not serious.
Like, unless you have, I don't know, man.
I think that, I mean, I didn't go for the hyperactive clown game where you really have to make them laugh and be interesting.
I was kind of chill like I normally am.
But these girls, if they write back, I mean, they lose interest very easily.
Very easily.
It's like such, I mean, it's just easier for me to just go outside, go for a walk, and to meet girls.
Now, if you're living, are you in like a windy place?
I'm hearing a lot of wind.
I am.
I'm in a windy place right now.
Is it bothering me right now?
That's fine.
So anyway, I don't recommend Tinder unless you literally cannot go outside and talk to women.
I mean, if you're living in like the boonies.
Well, which is beta, right?
Wouldn't that be blue pill?
Blue pill to what?
To live in a bad area?
Well, no, no, no.
To do Tinder for that reason that you mentioned, to not talk to women in real person.
You know, listen, I don't, I don't want to judge, you know, whether, I mean, I think for me, it is one of the weaker ways to talk to a woman, you know.
But if a guy, if that's, if a man figures that that's his very best option.
But the problem with it is that it's so hard to date on your level.
Like girls who are using Tinder, they match with guys who are like a 10 out of 10.
They're matching with Chad Thundercock constantly.
And so, I mean, if you're not him and you want to bang a what, a five?
I don't know.
It just seems like the app itself primes the mind of a woman to shoot really high.
And unless you are Chad himself, you know, I could be considered a Persian Chad.
If a girl wants a Persian Chad, then maybe I can help her.
But how many girls want a Persian Chad?
Not sure.
Really?
Well, I think overall, I would agree with everything that you mentioned there.
I think that, yeah, quite honestly, I don't know if we got a little off topic from my question here, but I mean, so one thing that turned me to Tinder was that was to kind of feel out different places in different countries.
I decided to do Tinder Plus, which allows you to change locations.
And there are certain areas where I just get lots of matches where girls immediately text me and I've already gotten a lot of contact numbers and stuff.
I'll actually say one of the best places was Pestife Brazil.
I actually have a lot of friends from there and I think I do want to visit there eventually.
I'm working on my Portuguese and stuff.
But like not, I wanted to go there before doing Tinder there.
But like what I've been doing recently is using Tinder to kind of feel out a certain place in an area.
Because if it's a place where I'm consistently getting a lot of matches and there are lots of decent looking girls who are texting me first or responding to me when I text them, then that's a good sign, right?
That's actually the best use of it, just to get a vibe of what.
But still, even me, I'm a little bit old-fashioned in that I go to places where I like the women and then try to figure it out.
But I don't fault the man who uses Tinder to see which cities could be good for him.
But you still have to make the big investment to actually go there.
Understood.
Definitely.
Traveling takes a lot of time and stuff.
Let's see.
Was there a quick other question I wanted to ask here?
Okay, this is probably a pretty beta question, honestly, but I think I'm going to ask it anyway, just to give you some tough love if needed or anything.
I mean, what do you do to like prevent girls from ever altering your emotions in any way or people in general?
It's just when you're interacting with people or if they're talking about something you don't want to talk about or if they like you for a reason that you don't want like, I mean, I've read a lot of your stuff.
I'm a longtime fan of you, I would say.
And, you know, I hear, I hear your stories of like, of like back when you were in Poland and stuff, how like certain, certain girls would really go like nuts for, say, your Mediterranean look.
And if you say like, if they say like they're a salsa dancer, they've been to Spain or something, you'd bang them, but you wouldn't take them seriously, right?
Yeah.
So like, I mean, do you, I'm just, do you ever take, when do you know whether to take yourself seriously or not?
Like, when do you know whether to develop emotions and to take that as like a serious signal or just say ignore it?
Yeah, we had a similar question earlier when a guy, he had his food tray slapped by another guy and he didn't know what he should do.
And I, you know, the only thing that's really true and pure is how you feel.
I don't hide it.
You know, I think that's gotten me into more trouble than a lot of people.
I say what I think.
I don't like hiding it.
Why put on a mask?
Who do I put on a mask for?
Some random girl?
I don't know.
For some people online.
So hold on.
Let me get there.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
So therefore, when I react in the moment, it's true.
Okay.
This is who I am, what I feel.
So I can do it.
Now, if I'm always crying, something is probably wrong.
Maybe I'm like a feminine man.
Maybe I need to hit the gym.
But if I respond in a way that keeps myself safe or keeps myself feeling like a man, where I don't go home afterwards and feel like a weak person because I did not embrace how I felt in the moment, then I think I'm doing well.
I think what's happening with a lot of men is they have this kind of cut.
They cut how they respond to what they feel.
So they have these inner latent, unresolved issues because they never open the vent just to feel it.
So I find most guys, their problem is not so much expressing themselves, showing a little bit of heart.
It's the opposite.
It's trying to react like a robot.
In fact, that's what the other caller says.
How do you be non-reactive?
Why would you want that?
Why would you want to be stiff?
So in terms of you, I don't know you, but I would say you probably are more stiff than not.
Yeah, I guess, I guess so.
I guess if you mean stiff by meaning attempting to like thinking about it, attempting to be like a robot or attempting to not react as much or hoping to get there, then yeah, I'd say so.
And it isn't your fault.
I think in the West, they teach you that the mind is everything.
You can think your way out of anything.
Be mental, mental, mental.
And the heart, don't worry about the heart.
The heart is wrong.
The heart isn't logical.
But guess what?
The heart is right.
The heart is almost always right.
I mean, I can't, I mean, the problem with the mind, if you use it too much, it starves the heart out.
And you start to feel vaguely depressed, upset, unsatisfied because you're not doing what the heart wants you to do.
So for me, it's very easy.
I just do what my heart wants me to do while keeping in mind I have to survive and I'm not going to go attack a policeman who has a gun or do something really stupid.
Gotcha.
But I mean, when you obviously you're good at feeling out your heart and stuff, but are you saying that you're like following your moods here and there?
Yes.
I totally do what my mood wants.
A lot of people on Sunday afternoon, they say, Ruch, are you doing a live stream today?
I say, I don't know if I am in the mood.
You know, some things I force myself to do, such as I have to cook my meals, I have to take a shower every day, I have to write a bit, I have to check my emails every day.
So, a little bit, I force it.
But if you force too much, oh, you're gonna be like a top.
It's you know, the steam is growing and growing.
But I generally, I mean, why would you do something that you don't want to do?
Why?
I mean, yeah, we all have to pay our taxes, we got to follow the laws.
I get that, but how much do you have to do that you don't want to do?
How much it shouldn't be more than 10%, 20%.
But if like your whole day is just shit you don't want to do, what's the point?
Why are you living for?
Who are you living for?
Understood.
I guess if you're a younger sort of guy, you continue to feel out what seems to suit you and are seeking happiness and stuff.
But I mean, I've always been sort of a guy who's pretty comfortable with feeling myself out and stuff and noticing what I enjoy here and there.
But I mean, to revamp what you said about like the about allowing girls to get to your emotions or anything, that's just that mainly just like you opening the vent, you're saying, or I just, you know, it depends on what my goal is.
If I don't care, if I don't care about sleeping with a girl, which should be true 100% of the time, I do what I feel.
Sometimes I respond really smooth.
Sometimes I get angry.
Sometimes I am aloof.
It depends.
I don't give us, I don't give us a there's not a system on how to respond.
There's not a code that you have to crack.
You do what you feel.
All right.
Now, if you want to bang a woman and you say, I have to respond in this optimized way to bang her, you're already putting her value high.
Because is she doing that?
Is she regulating her emotions when she's talking to you with the hope that you will bang her?
Probably not.
She doesn't give a shit.
So in some sense, you have to care less than she does.
So it's weird that actually the best way to respond to a woman is to do what you feel.
Sometimes you want to laugh.
Sometimes you want to get angry, you know.
But then if you read online, everyone's like, oh, you can't get angry.
Sometimes angry is the best thing to do.
Sometimes it's the worst thing to do.
But do what you feel.
So at least when you're done with it, you go home and you sleep like a baby because you did what you felt.
It's very easy.
If you didn't bang her, so what?
There's tons of other girls.
Okay.
And like, given that sort of situation, if like if you did feel like banging enough, you the way to sort of measure that is if you didn't mind Talking about something that you didn't most enjoy talking about, or like basically that stuff that you read on like your online forms and online websites and stuff.
It's like that mindset of a bang is a bang isn't always a good one.
Listen, everyone online is sharing their own theories.
You don't have to accept all of them.
Okay, take all the theories and then try them out and see which ones that you like.
Go to the clothing store, try on a lot of shirts, and the shirt that fits you the best, then you wear it.
Okay.
All right.
Thanks a lot for the call, Roo.
Keep it up.
I will.
I will.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Have a good day.
You too.
Yeah, now actually, I'm scared that I'm telling people to do what you feel because then the next thing I'm going to get, like there's going to be a news article saying, follower of Ruch creates gas chamber and throws in people.
Oh, no.
All right.
Let me see.
We got a super chat from eight to RNM.
He says, a top porn hub category is incest.
Thoughts on daddy issues?
Well, who is viewing those but men?
So why do men view that incest shit?
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
Okay, Arcadi's video says he donates $10.
He says, Ruch, has Amazon infiltrated or is it about to infiltrate Eastern Europe and have started destroying the local retail landscape yet by running mom and pop stores out of business?
It's still a long way out.
Long way out.
I haven't seen it as much here.
I think in the U.S. now, in the U.S., people don't even go to the malls, to the vibrancy of the malls.
I'll just say that when I go back home, I go into the malls, there's no white people.
I'm the whitest guy there.
Man, it is vibrant.
But I love it.
I love multiculturalism.
Please don't ban me, YouTube.
I love egalitarianism, multiculturalism, people of color.
I cherish them.
They're my gods.
All right, let's do one more call.
I got one more call, and then we'll go.
Let me see what we got here.
We have nine.
Sorry to the guys that are waiting.
Hello, Carla.
You're now live.
Hello.
Hello.
I thought I was going to miss you there.
The last call.
You are the last one.
Waiting for the whole queue.
This is forum member Messo once more.
I called her a couple weeks ago.
Got some high-quality calls today.
Some real beautes.
Okay.
My question is: I've been running into, I've been trying to tighten up like the mileage radius.
I'm willing to travel for dates.
And as we already know, I try to keep that prelude as tight as possible, logistic, as logistical as possible, just that as few messages as possible, set the time and place.
Something I'm running into is, I guess I'll kind of alternate where sometimes I'll ask where she'd like to meet, ask for the venue.
Other times I'll just say this place in time.
I find that every once in a while, with a significant frequency, if I run into maybe some token resistance or a little sparring as far as trying to get her to agree to a venue, when you run into that, how do you deal with that?
I mean, again, before you tossed out the abundance mentality and just take a walk, and I subscribe to that, but what kind of resistance are you talking about?
Like, so you tell her to meet you at this place and then she does what?
Yes, I was going to specify.
A lot of the time, let's say 90 plus percent of the time, the gal wants to, she's willing to meet like within like a mile of her fucking neighborhood.
And of course, that does suggest that the radius I'm willing to go is a bit expansive.
I try to keep it, let's say, within 15 miles.
I've been trying to narrow it down, but sometimes it was in the 20s.
And of course, I guess that's too much.
But even with a more narrow radius, she'll say, oh, well, that's too far, blah, blah, blah.
So my question is to narrow it right down.
Should I just say, okay, fine, and just bail on it?
Or should I negotiate at all with that kind of instance?
You live in a large metropolitan area?
Yes.
Yes, I do in Southern California.
Okay, what I would do is this.
When you meet a girl, find out where she lives.
Then afterwards, set the date really close to where she lives.
So you haul your ass all the way over there.
Then you can bounce between a couple bars within walking distance.
Then you walk her home and you get to her front door and you know what you say?
Oh, can I use your bathroom for a while?
Exactly.
Make it very easy.
Because my guess is that you're meeting girls or getting number, but they don't have strong attraction for you.
So they like you, maybe, but not enough to like drive.
So this means you are working with medium attraction type of girls.
So this is why.
So if that's the case, then you go the other way.
You make it easy for them so you can bang them on the first date.
But you have to have a goal to bang them.
If you go drive your ass all the way over there, if you're going to drive your ass all the way over there and you don't even try, what is the point of that?
Absolutely.
And that's kind of right in there.
Yes.
And I've been trying to narrow my radius down.
And I guess my question is a bit of a two-parter.
The other half was just to see what your current preferences are.
What kind of a mileage radius are you willing to travel in today's times?
I live in a tiny place where I live within 10 minutes walking from the center.
And the center is where all of the bars and all the places are.
So basically, there's like a where I'm at, there's standard places to meet for like a date.
Like if you're meeting a girl at eight at this place, you're going to see other people there waiting for their date too.
So really, so that I don't have that kind of problem.
Yeah, I thought that might have been the case with your current accommodation.
But when I was living, when I was living in Washington, D, DC, have you been there?
No, I have not.
Okay, so there's, I was living in the Maryland suburbs to the north.
And on by car, this is like a 40-minute drive.
So there is, so what I did do, I didn't, I didn't tell her to meet me like halfway.
That's not going to help because then after the end of the date, where are we going to go?
We're far, we're the farthest possible from her place on mine.
So what I would do is drive my ass all the way down and meet her next to where she lives, which was usually going to be like DuPont.
And then afterwards, oh, you live right there, don't you?
Okay, let me walk you home because I hear that Washington, D.C. is very dangerous at night.
Yeah, that's like a chunk.
Ah, very good.
Are there instances where you try and swing it back in the other direction more toward your geographic convenience when you're in those metropolitan areas?
If I banged her, like if I already banged her and she is still talking to me, I let that bitch drive up there.
Like now, I don't care.
So I'll let her drive up.
Sounds very good.
Looks like I'm heading in the right direction.
But I mean, it's not physically.
Yeah, it's not a good sign if a girl is like, oh, I don't want to drive up there.
But really, I mean, most girls that you meet that you get a number to, they're not going to have strong attraction for you until you bang them anyway, unless you are chatting.
But, you know.
So in that case, I would just meet them as close to, like, just make it so easy that it's like, I mean, it doesn't take any work to get her back to her place after.
Good.
Sounds solid.
I just, I think what I need to do is narrow down my radius because I was kind of pushing the limit a bit.
But I was running into that almost like 90 plus percent of the time where she's not going to want to venture out of her neighborhood.
So as opposed to trying to power that, I'd be like, okay, take a place right over there.
Exactly.
That is what I've been trying to do.
Yes, that's solid, you know?
And again, as we've already discussed, I think you go into her with no expectations.
Yes, she's got some token interest if you manage to get the digits and she's agreeing to meet with you somewhere, but we're going to have to kind of play it to her convenience heavily, at least at first.
So thank you for that.
No problem.
Okay.
Awesome.
Good way to finish it up, eh?
Okay.
Thank you.
Okay.
Thank you, sir.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Another ruche miracle.
All right.
Sorry to everyone who is on hold, but it's Sunday and it is pizza day.
And I'm going to go eat.
I think for having the flu just on freaking Friday night, I was dead, man.
Friday night, I was really messed up.
And Sunday, here we are.
So, all right.
Thank you for everyone who left super chats.
Thank you to all my callers and to everyone here.
I'm glad I was able to do this.
And hopefully we'll do another one on Sunday.
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