The Stone Zone dissects rural hospitals’ survival amid congressional threats while honoring Jack Kemp—NFL MVP, AFL champion, and architect of Reagan’s 1981 tax cuts—for his supply-side legacy and civil rights leadership. It slams Mayor Miamdami’s $7B deficit-driven policy reversals and Hochul’s pro-choice clash with NY Conservatives, then pivots to House Republicans’ Save America Act, which tightens voter ID rules amid Gabbard’s election-interference claims. Trump’s legal battles and economic wins—$14B Argentina beef deal, low inflation—are framed as 2026 election ammunition against a hollow Democratic opposition. [Automatically generated summary]
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Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
They employ our neighbors and keep our families healthy.
But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
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This past Sunday, Super Bowl Sunday, I called for Congressman Jack Kemp to be inducted into the very prestigious Football Hall of Fame.
Not only did Jack Kemp as a politician have a profound effect on the trajectory of America because it was his advocacy of growth side economics that were adopted by presidential candidate Ronald Reagan and ended up giving America unprecedented prosperity, but his football career was quite extraordinary.
He was first drafted by the Detroit Lions in 1957.
Early on, he kind of struggled to find stability, bouncing around, playing for the San Diego Chargers before ending up with the Buffalo Bills.
Then leading the Bills to two consecutive AFL championships, he himself being recognized as the most valuable player.
Trump's, pardon me, Kemp's heroics on display during that 1964 AFL championship when they faced against his former team, the Chargers.
The Chargers, as I recall, were expected to rout the Bills with their head coach, Sid Gilman's revolutionary passing attack and their edge-over experience.
But the Bills proved surprisingly formidable.
Kemp etched his way into the anals of football history by leading the Bills to a 27 win.
The next year saw the AFL title rematch between the Chargers and the Bills.
And once again, the margin of victory was even more lopsided.
The Bills defeated the Chargers by 23-0 margin, running the favored team out of the building.
Kemp that year won the most valuable player for the championship game after receiving the most valuable player honors during the regular season.
He shared that honor with all-time greats of the NFL like Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Emmett Smith, and Patrick Mahomes.
So I think it is long past the time that Jack Kemp should be in the football hall of fame.
I first met Jack Kemp in 1972.
I was working for the committee to re-elect the president.
I was a surrogate scheduler, and I had been assigned Kemp as one of the active Nixon re-election surrogates.
Kemp had worked as an intern in the office of Governor Ronald Reagan and was a favorite of Reagan.
There would be a later controversy regarding that, but then he fell under the wing of Herb Klein, who was President Richard Nixon's campaign and administration communications advisor, and Kemp would ultimately seek a congressional seat in 1970 in a district, a blue-collar district, right outside of Buffalo.
Kemp was an outspoken advocate for civil rights.
He was one of the major sponsors of making Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday a holiday.
He was for a broader, more inclusive Republican Party that reached out specifically to African Americans.
But more importantly, he revolutionized our thinking about taxes.
It was Jack Kemp or the small band of others like consultant Jude Owiniski and a young Larry Kudlow, Jeffrey Bell, and others who realized that based on history, deep federal income tax cuts resulted in spurts of revenue.
In other words, a rising tide lift boats.
If taxes are lower, more people are working, therefore more people are paying taxes and government revenues go up.
I know it is the orthodoxy of the left who say that no, that's not how it works.
These tax cuts are responsible for the deficits.
They're not.
Let's listen to this Jack Kemp presidential commercial because Jack ran in 1988 and when we come back we'll talk about why this great conservative did not catch fire as our nominee.
In 1980 Jack Kemp proposed a 30% tax cut.
Bob Dole opposed it and George Bush called it voodoo economics.
But Kemp kept fighting.
And in 1981 President Reagan signed the Kemp Roth Tax Cut into law.
The very next year, Bush and Dole supported the largest tax increase in U.S. history and now they've raised taxes again.
As president, you can count on Jack Kemp to say no to higher taxes.
Jack Kemp, if he wins, we all win.
So Kemp endorsed Reagan early.
I think helped sell him on the positive upbeat message of economic growth and moving the Republican Party away from being the party of austerity and cutting.
And I think he revitalized the party.
It's very interesting that Donald Trump has adapted the same growth economics.
You can see that in the big, beautiful bill.
And you can see it in his anti-regulatory policies.
Many people thought that Jack Kemp, upstate congressman who had worked so hard to elect Reagan, would have been the ideal vice presidential candidate for Reagan.
And in fact, interestingly enough, after Reagan had been nominated at the convention, I was working as a regional political director for the Northeast, handling New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut.
And all of the directors and his sub-directors, about 27 people, top political staff, were called to a session in which Governor Reagan came in and thanked us for our hard work since he had been nominated the night before.
And when he came in, Andy Carter, who had been with Reagan all the way back to Reagan's nascent 1968 kind of furtive effort, in which many people don't realize that he showed up at the 1968 convention,
Miami Beach, as a favorite son candidate, but that on the urging of some, he became a full-fledged candidate, could not break into Nixon's firewall in the South and stall Nixon's comeback nomination on the first ballot.
But Carter had a relationship such that he said, Ron, I would never think to call the governor Ron, we'd like to talk about the vice presidency.
And Mike Deaver, who was kind of the bodyman and deputy chief of staff and handler for Reagan, said, no, we're not here for Q ⁇ A.
But Reagan said, wait a minute, Mike, I'd like to hear what these fellas have to say.
So everybody was seated, and Governor Reagan listened, and we went around the room, and each person said who they thought should be the vice presidential nominee and why.
What's interesting is that the majority of those present said that Jack Kemp should be the nominee, that he was the natural heir to the California-based, upbeat, optimistic, pro-growth agenda that Reagan had embraced.
Others thought that Paul Laxalt, who was the chairman of Reagan's 1976 and his 1980 campaign, a very solid guy, had been both governor of Nevada at the same time Reagan was governor of California.
They became quite close and then later was elected to the U.S. Senate.
I loved Laxalt.
He was a truly great man, a hardcore conservative, but the geography in those days mattered more.
And I thought having Nevada and California to Westerners made less sense.
Trump from upstate New York was both a good geographic balance.
But I think his chances were destroyed when the Bush people passed a rumor that was completely false.
During Reagan's governorship, there had been a scandal in which several members of his staff were accused of having a homosexual relationship, which in the 1960s was extraordinarily coincidental.
Trump has no involvement with these events, which were chronicled by Lindofsiger and others, but it was always a smear.
It was a, oh, Jack has issues.
Jack had no issues.
He was happily married to Joanne Trump.
But I think the Bush people peddled this.
It bubbled up in some Evans and Novak columns as a way to knock them down.
But that's political poison.
Jack Kemp was always more interested in the ideas than he was in promoting himself.
There was a selflessness for him.
He traveled 256 days a year, speaking for the party, speaking for candidates, but always preaching an optimistic, positive, upbeat message of economic growth and fighting those in the party who felt that austerity was the way to go.
It is really time to put him in the, particularly post-Super Bowl, in the football hall of fame.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump continues to just sue these multi-billion dollar fake news outfits with defamation lawsuits.
His latest one against the vile British Broadcasting Corporation is officially headed to trial, marking a major legal showdown between the former commander-in-chief and the fake news.
The BBC had moved to dismiss the case, and the courts refused to do so.
I made the mistake when I was speaking to the Oxford Union to doing a show on BBC in which some hack accused me of a Russian collusion, getting his information evidently from the Huffington Post.
Anything who knows about me and the course that I've been on, the government never produced any evidence whatsoever of Russian collusion or WikiLeaks collaboration against me.
They framed me up in some process crimes, but this was a total smackdown.
You can probably still find it on YouTube.
It was one of their livelier personalities.
I had to put him down quite hard in his line of accusations based on nothing.
The BBC is kind of like the CNN of Britain.
And as I've said, I don't get my news from the toilet for the same reason I don't, you know, get my news from CNN.
Or perhaps it's the other way around.
In any event, it's interesting when you look at the numbers, CNN, MSNBC, even News Nation, their numbers are down as more and more people go directly to the internet for their news.
And cable appears to me to go in the way of broadcast.
Broadcast television, ABC, NBC, CBS, used to dominate communications in the country until the advent of cable.
Cable changed all of that, diminished the strength of the broadcast outlets, unless, of course, they're being seen online.
More people now, thanks to Elon Musk, who's done more for the First Amendment and free speech than anyone other than the founding fathers, more and more people get their unfiltered information on the internet.
Even on the internet, you have to be careful of fake news.
Donald Trump is suing BBC because they manipulated videos of Trump's speech to try to give it a negative cast pertaining to January 6th.
I have a feeling that BBC will be writing a very, very large check to Donald J. Trump shortly.
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Earlier on, we were talking about my good friend, Jack French Kemp.
He, of course, was an American politician, former professional football quarterback, and one of the most influential champions of free market economics and modern conservative politics.
He was born in L.A. First made his name, not in politics, but on the football field, as I say, played quarterback for the Buffalo Bills of the American Football League, as I said earlier, led them to two championships, was the most valuable player two years in a row.
But it was after he retired from football that he transitioned to public service, was elected, as I say, in 1970 when Jim Buckley was sweeping a U.S. Senate seat in upstate New York, a district outside of Buffalo, where he became a leading voice for what would later be known as supply-side economics.
In other words, advocating tax cuts, economic growth, and opportunity-based policies.
Kemp was a huge influence on Reagan and a key architect of the landmark 1981 tax cuts under President Ronald Reagan, helping shape the whole economic philosophy that we now know as Reaganomics.
Reaganomics is practiced by Donald J. Trump.
Jack Kemp's focus was consistent, expand economic opportunity, reduce government barriers, and promote growth as a path to empowerment.
1988, of course, Kemp ran for president, emphasizing optimism, urban outreach, and inclusive conservatism.
I was proud to support him and work for him in that failed effort.
But Reagan Bush had become kind of, I should say, stampeded into the minds of the primary electorate.
And Jack's candidacy did not take off.
He would later serve as the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development under George H.W. Bush, where he pushed for improvised zones.
And of course, in 1996, probably his finest hour, Kemp was the Republican chosen by Senator Bob Dole to run for vice president.
Now, Dole carried more states in his run against Clinton than George H.W. Bush did as an incumbent.
And Dole and Kemp put on a hard-driving campaign in which they won more states and almost 3 million more votes than Bush and his running mate had run four years earlier.
Throughout his entire career, Kemp stood out for his energetic and also endless speaking style.
He was known to be long-winded on the stump because he worked hard to convince you about the American dream and economic mobility.
He passed away in 2009, but his influence on the country continues.
And therefore, I reached the conclusion that not just should he be in the football hall of fame, but he should now posthumously be given the Medal of Freedom by President Donald Trump.
He exemplifies the pro-growth, pro-family, pro-middle-class Reaganomics that is now Trump's major lodestone.
It is time to honor the man who made all of this come together.
That would be Congressman Jack Kemp.
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Well, it looks like hard economic reality has hit Mayor Zoran Miamdami.
The New York City mayor is now already walking back what I remember as a major campaign promise as the hard economic economy and economic situation settles in.
Just weeks into his tenure, the self-described socialist announced that he will not support expanding the city's FHEPS rental assistant program, a massive initiative already costing taxpayers between one and more than a billion dollars, pardon me.
Mehamdadi cited a looming $7 billion budget deficit over the next two years.
Acknowledged the city simply cannot afford the expansion he once championed.
His supporters are going to be into understanding that he is not a deity and he will not be able to deliver on free this and free that.
During the campaign, Miam Dami vowed to ensure the program grew as scheduled and per city law.
Now, however, his administration is negotiating with progressive activists to settle a lawsuit that sought to force that very expansion and a betrayal to the socialist principles he embodied on the campaign trail.
City Hall says it is simply trying to balance homelessness prevention with responsible and sustainable budget.
But Miam Dami's betrayal of his base on this issue is already creating fiction on the left as his jilted comrades are unhappy.
He will find that when you get fanatics like these, they are never satisfied with 90 or 80 percent.
His Democrat social allies, including Councilwoman Tiffany Cabone, argue the most costly program would ultimately save money and improve public safety, which, of course, is utter nonsense.
But this is the kind of drivel that socialists who get elected to public office actually believe.
The program, the city FHEPS, which was modeled after the old Section 8 program, requires tenants to pay roughly 30% of rent while taxpayers cover the remainder.
About 65,000 currently rely on these vouchers.
But meanwhile, Miam Dami has faced separate criticism for failing to clear homeless encampments during a deadly cold snap that claimed nearly two dozen lives, I think, as I read that.
This is just the beginning of Miam Dami's dismal run, in my opinion.
He's going to have to pull the plug on many of his unrealistic socialist ideas, and he's going to get hell from his base.
But the most outrageous is his grab for your private property rights, pushing an initiative in which a property owner in New York City who wishes to sell their property, either residential or commercial, must first offer it to the state.
Only after the state declines to buy it can they put it on the open market.
And then, when on the open market, if you get a bid on it, you must have to go back to the city government for essentially a second look.
City council member Frank Morano excoriated this outrageous plan, which violates your rights to private property under the U.S. Constitution.
But it's just an example of the kind of radical agenda that I think Miam Dami is still committed to.
He's going to have to work within the system.
It was interesting to me that during the primary, he was endorsed by the governor, and that he at that time refused to say whether he would support Kathy Hokul.
Kathy Hokul, I must tell you, looking at polling, is one of the most unpopular governors in the country.
She, I think, would be vulnerable in the Democrat primary to the right Democrat.
I'm not sure that candidate exists.
I don't think it's the current lieutenant governor.
People forget that Kathy Hokul was left to New York by Governor Andrew Cuomo.
Andrew Cuomo chose her for lieutenant governor, a surprise choice, because he was thought to be preparing to choose Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown for the lieutenant governor's office.
Instead, took Hoko.
Then when the progressive left finally drove Andrew Cuomo out of office over these MeToo allegations, threatening to impeach him if he did not resign, he resigned.
But it's very clear that Miam Dami has now fallen in line.
So the corporate left wing, that's Hokul, and the progressive wing must recognize that they deserve each other.
Hokul's endorsement of Miam Dami was not for him, it was for her.
Miam Dami's withdrawal of it showed his power, but now he's supporting Hokul.
Hokul will be an extraordinarily weak general election candidate.
It remains to be seen whether the frontrunner for the Republican nomination, Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman, who has piled up very, very impressive numbers on Long Island, which is one of the keys to being competitive against Hokul, can mount a race that could take down the governor.
Also remains to be seen whether she yet faces any significant opposition in the Democrat primary.
I believe that she would be, for example, particularly vulnerable to a Hispanic woman candidate, but I'm not sure that that woman candidate exists.
Both of these races, both the, I should say, the Miam Dami governorship and Kathy Hokum re-election campaign vis-a-vis Blakeman will be interesting to watch.
It seems to me that they have one initial problem, and that is the New York Conservative Party, which is essentially a relic from the 1960s, but continues to have permanent ballot position in New York State.
New York State's one of the few country, pardon me, states in the country, where your name can be on the ballot multiple times as the nominee of multiple parties or as an independent, but you win the cumulative vote of all votes cast for you, regardless on which line they are cast.
Therefore, the Conservative Party started originally to try to be a rightward anchor on the New York Democrat Party.
It was then controlled by Nelson Rockefeller and Jacob Javits and John Lindsay and Roy Goodman before the party moved right where it is today.
But you see, Blakeman is a pro-choice, and the Conservative Party has as one of their absolute planks that they are unabashedly pro-life.
The party is, in fact, if you analyze it, overwhelmingly Catholic.
So I'm not sure how boss Jerry Kassar of the Conservative Party, who has kind of an arcane setup, his executive committee makes decisions on all endorsements, intends to handle that.
We also don't know where Blakeman ends up going for a running mate, but finding a dynamic running mate could make this more of a race.
But Blakeman is known to be a favorite of President Trump.
They have a warm relationship.
Last time I saw him was at Mar-Lago.
Many people still surprise that at least Stefanik, who I think would have been a very strong candidate, elected in the end not to make this race.
I think when she graciously withdrew the nomination or when her nomination to the UN, which she richly deserved, was withdrawn and she remained in Congress because the majority is so thin and her vote is desperately needed there, as well as her common sense.
I think she could have been endorsed, would have been endorsed by the president for the governorship.
In fact, he was enthusiastic for her candidacy, and her early poll numbers were very positive.
On the other hand, she didn't pull the trigger.
I think she was waiting to see if Ma'am Dami won.
I think it was pretty clear he was going to win.
That would have been a more positive factor moving her forward.
Still think she has a great public career ahead of her.
You see why she's in the House.
This week, House Republicans finally advanced a sweeping election integrity package with nearly, of course, every Democrat voting against the legislation designed to ensure that only American citizens cast ballots in federal elections.
Seems pretty simple to me.
This is, of course, the Save America Act we've talked so much about.
It passed the House by a narrow margin of 218 to 213.
That's why you see why it's so important to have Elise Stefanik still there, with only one Democrat having the courage to break ranks and vote yes.
That's quite incredible.
The legislation builds on the earlier SAVE Act, which was passed by the House in 2025 but ignored by the Senate.
The core provision here is pretty straightforward, okay?
Require proof of citizenship when registering to vote in federal elections, mandate photo identification at the polls, and strengthen coordination between state election officials and federal authorities to verify voter eligibility.
Again, state elections are administered by the states, not the federal government, but the federal government can help.
The bill also authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to pursue immigration enforcement if non-citizens are discovered on voter rolls, which has certainly happened, an effort that closes very dangerous loopholes in our election system.
Republicans argue the measure is a safeguard aimed at restoring public trust in elections, obviously, when confidence remains very fragile and the wounds from 2020 are still being explored.
The Democrats, for some reason, insist that the requirement of a photo ID is somehow racist.
I just don't get that.
If the IDs are free and anyone can get one, if an ID is required to buy a pack of cigarettes or a six-pack of beer or to get on a plane or to apply for welfare or for any other legal purposes where they are, why not to vote?
To me, it seems to make perfect sense.
You can't get on an airplane without one.
But it does not look to me like the Republicans have the votes in the Senate, which is very sad.
If enacted, the Save America Act would establish for the first time nationwide election standards ahead of the upcoming midterms, making it more difficult for Democrats to stuff the ballot box.
Look, they're already sweating because Tulsi Gabbard, who was president at the Fulton County warehouse raid, the raid of the election board, and is known to be investigating the safety and security of the electronic voting machines and whether or not there is potentially foreign interference and manipulation via the internet.
I misspoke when I said she had such proof.
I think what she has is proof that the capability exists and existed for Venezuela and China to manipulate our elections.
whether it was done so in 2020, we presume it was, but whether they left records, that is what remains to be seen.
If you were involved in one of the greatest heists in world history, would you leave a full record of your crimes?
So I overspoke and I corrected that.
I think I said it on a great interview with my good friend Eric Metaxa, who I realized a little too late that I should have included in my 17th annual international men's best and worst dress list.
He is one of the most dapper gentlemen around.
But in an interview, I overspoke when I said she had proof of the foreign manipulation.
What she has is proof of the capability.
The president has charged her with getting to the bottom of that question.
She is the one, of course, who had the courage to declassify the Russian collusion documents, which definitively proved that there was a seditious conspiracy that began in the White House in 2016 through the first year of Trump's presidency as the Russian collusion hoax, two completely fabricated impeachment attempts, then the hijacked 2020 election followed by the set up and Fed surrection of January 6th,
followed by Arctic Frost and the extra-constitutional legal efforts by Joe Biden to destroy Trump, steal every penny from him, keep him off the ballot, and lock him up.
And he overcame all of that only through the grace of God.
What we're witnessing before us is one of the most dynamic times in American history.
Donald Trump is endlessly moving forward.
Those who question his fitness or his health don't know him.
He continues to work very long hours for the American people.
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I appreciate those warm words from Vice President JD Vance.
You know, I said this on the Alex Jones show the other day.
I say it yet again.
I don't concede that the Republicans will lose the 2026 election.
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I don't concede that they will lose the House.
I don't concede that they could lose the Senate.
Those who say that are people who don't understand the volatility of American politics in the age of mass communication.
Things have the capacity to change very quickly, and trends are temporary.
I think the backdrop for the elections is very sound because we have the greatest tax cuts in American history.
We have tax cuts done away with the tax on tips.
88% of those who are receiving Social Security benefits will no longer spend, pay taxes on them, thanks to the big, beautiful bill.
You have extraordinary deregulation in many sectors.
And once we get a non-politically based interest rate cut, I think the housing market, which is already incredibly low, yesterday I saw online somebody got a mortgage at 5%.
So under FHFA Director Bill Polti and President Donald Trump, even today, without the rate cut that we deserve based on the unemployment rate and the inflation rate, the housing market is strong and the mortgage markets hitting all-time lows.
Still, with gas prices down, housing has moved into the second position in terms of people's greatest economic anxiety, first being and continuing to being gross, being grocery prices.
Big, big win for both the United States and Argentina on Friday when the final steps of a $14 billion deal to buy Argentine beef and bring it to the United States.
America is facing a beef crisis due to the radical environmental policies of Joe Biden.
The U.S. herds are down from a robust $62 million under Trump's first term down to about $26 million.
There literally is no more beef in the United States.
We used to buy our beef, additionally quality beef from Mexico, but because of a screw worm epidemic there in the southern and central parts of Mexico, they are not a safe source.
Brooke Rollins has done a good job of protecting our livestock here and our standards here in that regard.
But this deal makes sense.
It means you're going to have cheaper hamburger on the shelves very shortly and it's going to bring the overall price of beef down.
I understand the cattlemen, U.S. cattlemen are unhappy, but the president has done the right thing.
Not only does he help prop up an important ally, Javier Malay of Argentina, but he also gets cheaper beef, high-quality beef on the supermarket counters before the 2026 elections.
So this was a big win for both countries, and it also shows that Donald Trump still completely and totally understands the arch of the deal.
Those who want to concede 2026 are fools.
The backdrop is there to win if we aggressively tell people what our record is, where we have been, where we are going.
Record low inflation, record low unemployment, peace in a number of fronts around the world, low food prices, low gas prices.
That's a big one right there.
And expanding and more affordable and available housing.
The Democrats have nothing other than their hatred of Donald Trump to run on.
Where is their positive program for job creation or their positive program to deal with violent crime?
So I'm optimistic about 2026.
It is way too early to throw in the towel.
It will be crucial for America first type Republicans to win in Republican primaries because they are generally speaking stronger general election candidates.
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