The Stone Zone dissects America’s rural hospitals as endangered lifelines amid Congress threats, while exposing U.S. military buildup near Iran’s protests—where Starlink defies jamming—and Jimmy Carter’s 1979 revolution legacy. It revisits Ellen Greenberg’s suspicious death, ties Pennsylvania AG Josh Shapiro to the cover-up, and reveals a Secret Service agent leaking classified details on JD Vance’s security. The episode also teases J.B. Pritzker’s corruption, Greenland’s Arctic geopolitical stakes, and Trump’s 45% independent approval surge, contrasting his targeted military actions in Venezuela with Iran’s nuclear risks. Rural healthcare and rising dissent in Iran frame the show’s dual focus on domestic erosion and global power shifts. [Automatically generated summary]
Rural Americans deserve access to the best our nation has to offer, especially when it comes to health care.
Across every state and every community, America's rural hospitals are the first line of defense, protecting our families, neighbors, and loved ones.
No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
They employ our neighbors and keep our families health.
But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
Tell Congress, protect patient care to keep America strong.
Don't cut rural health care.
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Well, all eyes worldwide are focused on the teetering, brutal Islamic regime in Iran.
There are speculation that U.S. forces have massed near the Iranian border, and there's a real possibility of action in the next 24 hours.
Although, amid a days-long nationwide internet blackout, SpaceX, owned by Elon Musk, has valiantly waived subscription fees for Starlink inside Iran, allowing users with satellite receivers to access uncensored internet for free.
According to Bloomberg, the move was confirmed by sources familiar with Starlink's operations and by Elon Musk's own allies who have worked diligently to keep Iranians connected and able to effectively communicate as they wage revolution against the despised Islamic theocracy.
The development comes as President Donald Trump escalates his rhetoric against the Iranian scourge, urging Iranian citizens to continue protesting and to reclaim their institutions from the ruling clerics.
What began last month as economic protests in Tehran's marketplaces has now involved in widespread unrest, targeting police stations and government buildings.
I don't need to remind you that the betrayal of the Shah in 1979 by the peanut farmer Jimmy Carter, who didn't have much understanding of international affairs, is what allowed this brutal Islamic regime to rise.
Under the Shah, who was no exemplar of human rights by any means, Iranian society was still cosmopolitan, pro-Western.
Women were allowed to be educated, students were allowed to study abroad, and Iran was a much safer place.
At the same time, the Iran government did also brutalize its citizens, which is why I'm opposed to the idea that should the current regime fall, or perhaps I should say when the current regime falls, that the House of Pahlavi and the Shah's son should be restored to power.
The answer to this theocracy is not a new monarchy.
Iranian officials are becoming increasingly desperate, whining about armed rioters attacking law enforcement with firearms and improvised weapons.
This is a reckoning that's been a long time coming.
Meanwhile, Iran's regime is responding with electronic warfare.
According to the Wall Street Journal, authorities are actively jamming Starlink Link signals, confiscating satellite dishes, and hunting down users, particularly in the protest-heavy neighborhoods of Tehran.
Starlink's presence will help expose the regime's brutality and shows yet again authoritarian governments fear free information and the truth more than anything else.
With a free and open internet, it's hard for government tyrants to keep populations ignorant and under control.
God bless Elon Musk for his work in empowering Iranians to forge a better life for themselves and their posterity.
Revealing The Secret Service Scandal00:06:53
Bad news for one would-be presidential candidate.
The federal government is now reopening one of the most troubling death cases in recent Pennsylvania history.
That would be the 2011 Kellen killing of Ellen Greenberg, a 27-year-old Philadelphia school teacher whose death was officially ruled as a suicide despite overwhelming red flags.
Greenberg was found dead in the apartment she shared with her fiancé, with 20 stab wounds, including 10 to the back of her head and the base of her skull.
A 10-inch knife was still lodged in her chest when she was found.
The medical examiner initially ruled the death a homicide, then reversed course and labeled it as a suicide, a decision that has baffled medical experts and enraged her family for more than a decade.
Now, the U.S. Attorney General's Office of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania has quietly requested and obtained all case records signaling renewed federal interest.
According to NBC 10, those documents were turned over last month.
In a stunning development, the original medical examiner signed a sworn statement in January of 2025, admitting the death should not have been ruled a suicide.
Medical records also contradict the suicide ruling.
Greenberg's treating physician wrote that she was not suicidal and noted bruising consistent with domestic abuse.
One stab wound was reportedly inflicted after she would have already been dead.
Yet, suicide's rulings have been publicly defended by then Attorney General, now Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, who is clearly planning a 2028 presidential campaign.
I predict to you here in the stone zone that this case is going to dog Josh Shapiro and any campaign for president.
Greenberg's parents settled a lawsuit with the city of Philadelphia for $650,000 in exchange for an independent review, one that, again, upheld the suicide finding.
But with federal prosecutors now circling the central question remains unanswered.
Was this a tragic miscarriage of justice or a cover-up that has lasted 14 long years?
And how intimately involved was Governor Shapiro in this cover-up?
And there is no doubt that the fiancé's family are large donors to the former Attorney General and now governor.
And what would compel Governor Shapiro to suppress the truth in this case?
The American people really deserve to know.
A shocking security breach has also been exposed within the United States Secret Service, showing how little has changed within that organization since President Trump's near assassination in Butler, Pennsylvania.
An undercover journalist with O'Keeffe Media Group, run by my good friend James O'Keefe, obtained sensitive information about Vice President JD Vance after a Secret Service agent revealed protected details during what he believed was a Tinder date.
According to The O'Keeffe media group founder James O'Keefe, agent Thomas Escato, discovered non-public info, pardon me, disclosed non-public information, including future travel plans, details about guarding the vice president's children, and confidential elements of secret service operations.
Portions of the video were deliberately censored to avoid endangering Vice President JD Vance or his family.
Escato openly expressed hostility towards President Donald Trump, telling the undercover reporter for O'Keefe Media that he hated Trump's immigration policies and dismissively referring to protecting the vice president's children as babysitting.
James O'Keefe said the goal of releasing the footage was to send a shockwave through the federal government and to force accountability inside agencies entrusted with important national security interests.
While the Secret Service has not confirmed a criminal violation, it acknowledged the conduct may violate its internal code of ethics.
I certainly hope it would.
This revelation comes amid growing scrutiny of the United States Secret Service.
We've never received any answers as to how they could possibly have left Thomas Matthew Crooks get up on a roof of that building and allow him to get off potential kill shots against President Donald Trump, who was only saved by a quarter of an inch in the grace of God.
Perhaps Eric Prince needs to be called in to overhaul the Secret Service.
It appears that that branch of government is as corrupt and ineffectual as any bureaucratic entity operating out of Washington, D.C.'s sewer.
Recently, President Donald Trump's motorcade in Palm Beach had to be rerouted when a suspicious device was found in the roadway.
Every single night, I pray for the safety of President Donald Trump, Vice President JD Vance, and their families, and all the key members of their administration, as the radical left is perfectly prepared to use violence.
We saw two attempts on the life of President Donald Trump, but what we don't have is answers.
We've seen the video footage and the fact that the alleged gunman, Thomas Matthew Crooks, was allowed to get off at least one shot before taken out by a counterterrorist, and he was actually hit first by a county sheriff's officer.
But how is it that all of those in law enforcement, the state police, the local police, the Secret Service, and the Department of Homeland Security, were all on different radio frequencies, so they could not communicate with each other.
How is it possible that the fact that Thomas Matthew Crookes was seen inside the perimeter of the area where President Trump spoke that day for a full 90 minutes, yet Donald Trump's direct Secret Service detail was never informed?
I can tell you, having worked for three American presidents, that the regulatory norm here would have been to remove the presidential candidate and former president from the premises immediately.
But we still have more questions than answers.
And that doesn't even speak to the subsequent attempt on the president's life at the West Palm Beach Trump International Golf Course, where a man Ryan Rouff, with very clear connections to the Central Intelligence Agency, was able to get into the perimeter, obtain a weapon, and come very close to shooting our president.
Greenland's Path to Statehood?00:15:05
Once again, the American people need more answers.
Tomorrow on The Stone Zone, we are going to be joined by none other than my very good friend, the editor and publisher of the Illinois Review.
Mark Vargas is going to join us with really an earth-shaping, shaking report exposing how Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, you know, he despises Doge.
That's because he himself is corrupt.
And the disclosures by Mark Vargas of the Illinois Review will involve taxpayer money, insider business interests, and cashing in at the expense of hardworking Illinois families.
You're going to want to tune in for this.
We are going to break some news right here in the Stone Zone.
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This story coming up on J.B. Pritzer exposes exactly why he hates Doge.
If you think this Somali scandal in Minnesota is big, wait until you see what's going on in Illinois and how the billionaire governor has pocketed millions from Illinois taxpayers, supposedly through his blind trust.
Of course, if he knows what's in the trust, how blind can it be?
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Across every state and every community, America's rural hospitals are the first line of defense, protecting our families, neighbors, and loved ones.
No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
They employ our neighbors and keep our families health.
But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
Tell Congress, protect patient care to keep America strong.
Don't cut rural health care.
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Could Greenland really become our 51st state?
President Donald Trump has talked openly about his desire to have Greenland join the United States.
Later on in the program, Rod Martin of the Rod Martin Report is going to join us to break that question down.
Now, I pointed out that there are at least two Canadian provinces, both Saskatchewan and Alberta, moving swiftly under their Constitution towards independence, which could be the first step to either one of them applying for statehood.
Saskatchewan, one of the wealthiest provinces in Canada when it comes to rare earth minerals, oil, and gas, smaller and probably the most conservative province in Canada, moving swiftly to put that question on the ballot.
Under the Canadian Constitution, any providence can declare its independence by a simple vote of the people.
And then, of course, they would have to apply for American statehood.
But perhaps Greenland will get in ahead of them.
Rod Martin is going to join us later in the program to talk about that.
You can find him at rodmartin.org, one of the great thinkers of our time.
Now, nearly half of American adults are rejecting both major political parties in a sign of deep public dissatisfaction with the political system and the UNI party that lords over it.
According to a new survey from Gallup, a record 45% of U.S. adults identified as political independents in 2025, while 27% each call themselves either Democrats or Republicans.
This is a seismic shift from the past.
Gallup surveyed more than 13,000 adults over the course of the year.
This trend is being driven primarily by younger Americans who do not feel served by our current mainstream politics.
Firm majorities of Generation Z and millennials now identify as independents along with more than four in ten Gen X adults.
Older generations remain more partisan, but even there, party loyalty is beginning to weaken.
Importantly, many independents still lean one way or the other.
Of that, 45%, Gallup found that 20% said they leaned to the Democrats, while 15% said they leaned to the Republicans, and 10% leaned neither way in particular, according to the survey.
Gallup issued a critical warning.
This is not a surge of enthusiasm for Democrats.
Favorable ratings for the Democrat Party remain historically poor and, frankly, no better than the Republicans.
Republicans can win over these independents by fulfilling the promise and agenda put forward by President Donald Trump.
That means we must see deeply corrupt, deep state officials thrown behind bars for their illegal and unconstitutional efforts to destroy Donald Trump and his family.
It also means we have to double down on tariffs and get better trade deals, as President Donald Trump has been doing.
Add that to the largest tax cut in American history and the regulatory cuts, not to mention the upcoming interest rate cut we'll get when we no longer have a completely and totally politicized Federal Reserve Board.
It's interesting that when Jerome Powell, the current chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, clearly lied under oath to Congress about the expenditure of millions of dollars of a taxpayer's money.
Well, those in the mainstream media say that should just be excused.
That's not what they said when they accused me, falsely, of lying under oath about Russian collusion that never actually happened.
So I believe that the key to extending President Donald Trump's electoral coalition is to fulfill the promises that he put forward in the last campaign, and he is doing that.
Inflation is down.
Food prices are down.
Gas prices are down sharply.
And Uncle Sam is no longer being taken as a sucker around the world.
The answer to the 2026 elections is to fulfill the promises of 2024.
And their president is doing that.
Now, whether Republicans in Congress are smart enough to follow that lead remains to be seen.
But the way to galvanize these independents and to win the midterms is to keep the promises made in the 2024 election.
Don't go away.
Coming up on the other side, Rod Martin of the Rod Martin Report joins me to talk about whether it is feasible or whether it could actually happen that Greenland would become our 51st state.
Don't go away.
We'll be right back.
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So, could Greenland, a Danish colony in our hemisphere, actually become America's 51st state?
Joining me to talk about that is one of my favorite public intellectuals.
That's Rod Martin.
He's the founder and CEO of Martin Capital, but he also helms the Rod Martin Report.
I like Rod Martin because he's a technology entrepreneur, an investor, and a futurist, but he's also a realist and a thinker.
So, when he writes, I love to read it.
I love to repost his stuff.
And I always like to get his take on these things.
He's been way out ahead of others in analyzing the situation regarding Greenland.
Rod, welcome into the Stone Zone.
Great to be here.
So, do you believe that Greenland is a key part of effectuating what we're calling the Don Rowe doctrine in this hemisphere?
And if so, why is that?
Well, the president's exactly right to be concerned about acquiring Greenland.
And, of course, he's not the first president to do so.
To listen to the in the media, you would get the idea that he's off on some crazy bender.
But Dwight Eisenhower wanted to acquire Greenland.
He wasn't even the first.
And there has been a consistent understanding of the need for this.
There just hasn't been a lot of attention.
Well, it's a new day.
We live in an age in which either through global warming, which I think many of us are properly skeptical of, or through the advent of growing nuclear power capabilities resulting in the likely prospect of a lot of nuclear icebreakers on the part of China and the United States and Russia, you actually have sea lanes in the north that are of increasing vitality.
And Greenland commands those sea lanes very much as it did during the Cold War and World War II between itself and Iceland and the UK.
These are absolutely vital to American security, but there's more.
Greenland is also a source of a tremendous quantity of rare earth minerals and other natural resources, especially oil and gas offshore, that are vital to the future.
And they are all difficult to access.
They are all far beyond the technical and financial resources of Denmark to exploit.
So what we have is a situation where the 57,000 Greenlanders are stuck in needless poverty under colonial domination by a European power, if you can call it that, and really have no hope of any of this ever happening for them apart from a major power coming in and developing it.
So the president's right.
If we don't act, China or Russia will.
And there's not a lot Greenland, I'm sorry, Denmark can do about it.
This is a money pit for them, a billion-dollar subsidy a year, and accomplishing absolutely nothing.
So at the outset, you said, should they become 51st state?
Probably not.
They want to be independent.
There's a way to achieve everything for everybody.
We can end Denmark's need to subsidize them.
We can take over that role of patron.
Greenland can become independent, and we can form a compact of free association with them, as we have with the Mariana Islands and with the Marshalls and with Palau.
They get all the benefits of independence with none of the costs, and everybody's happy.
As you know, President Donald Trump has identified the Greenland question as a question of national security.
While Denmark's leaders have downplayed the threat to Greenland posed by the Russians or the Chinese amidst President Trump's outspoken desire to acquire this frozen island, Denmark's own intelligence agency recently released an assessment bluntly warning of Russian and Chinese military ambitions and expansion towards Greenland and the entire Arctic.
You've also written very compellingly about the importance of the development of nuclear power in the Arctic in this new frontier.
So for those who try to say, well, Trump's bellicose language, his desires to obtain Greenland are similar to the war in Iraq, let's say, under the neocons.
I don't believe that.
I believe that this is, in fact, a national security question confronting our country.
It absolutely is.
And there's nothing neoconservative about it.
This is the same kind of moral realism we saw under Ronald Reagan, where you use short, sharp uses of American power, such as we just did in Caracas, to achieve a multiplicity of ends.
Well, there's no need for a short, sharp use of power here, but there is a need for a very Trumpian, maximalist position going into a negotiation that compels the people on the other side of the table to get creative about actually solving the problem.
And the end result of that is always a good deal for everyone.
Anybody who wants to play ball with Donald Trump is going to win in the process as he wins in the process.
It's the people like the Ayatollah and Putin and Xi Jinping who are going to lose because if you don't want to play ball with Donald Trump, he's going to whack you.
And it's going to really actually be incredibly entertaining for many of us.
And it's going to be a very effective course of action for the United States.
So that's just not going to be in the cards here, but it is going to get these guys to sit down and talk.
And we saw the beginning of that today with the foreign ministers from Greenland and Denmark coming to meet with Marco Rubio.
That's a good development, and they can say whatever bellicose things they want.
But at the end of the day, they came to Washington and they're talking about the problem.
And we're going to get to a good solution.
This president will see to that.
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You know, Rod, I'm a political animal, and therefore, I don't see what the harm would be to putting this question up before the people of Greenland in a referendum.
Why are the globalists so doggedly opposed to democracy and letting the people of Greenland speak about their future?
Well, it really is odd, isn't it?
Because polling has long shown that the Greenlanders want to be independent of Denmark.
Reza Pahlavi's Vision for Iran00:11:47
Denmark has not been a good colonial master.
And there is, of course, this inherent bellicosity in the president's approach.
So, of course, that makes people nervous.
But the truth of the matter is they would be independent if they could.
And they've been very clear about that.
And the unhappiness with Denmark is widespread and longstanding.
So if they could be independent without the costs of independence, that would solve the problem for everybody.
Again, a compact of free association, such as we've already entered into with three separate independent countries in the Pacific, all island countries, I might add, is perfect for them.
It's expensive to have a military.
It's expensive to have embassies in 195 countries, or even a fraction of that.
It's expensive to be part of the United Nations and all these different things.
And the United States just takes care of that for the people in free association with us.
So they get to be free.
They get to do whatever they want internally.
America gets appropriate defense considerations, and we pay the freight on all those foreign policy matters.
This would solve the problem.
And yes, once the Greenlanders fully understand that that's an option on the table, I think you get to a referendum.
And I think this is exactly what they're going to vote for.
Yeah, the EU and NATO talk tough, but I don't think they have much to back it up.
And I think the president's going to call their bluff here.
Rod, while I've got you, I've got to ask you your take on the developments swiftly happening there in Iran, where the regime, which is extraordinarily brutal, people need to understand that mass public executions are part of their bag of tricks.
This is one of the most brutal governments in the world.
It's not really a government.
I think former President Richard Nixon, when he was at the Shah's funeral, correctly appointed this as a mob, which is what it really is.
Your take on the situation in Iran.
Well, the Crown Prince, Reza Pahlavi, was interviewed today.
He says that his best information suggests that the regime has murdered 12,000 protesters.
These are unarmed people.
And this is exactly why we have a Second Amendment in this country, because the truth is, if only the state has guns, then everyone is at the mercy of the state.
And that's exactly what's happened in Iran.
So the president came out very strongly, I thought, you know, said very clearly, keep protesting.
Help is on the way.
Well, we don't know exactly what that means.
It certainly includes the 25% tariff he just slapped on any country that continues to do business with Iran.
But there are a range of military operations that are available that he is strongly implying we're going to employ.
And the only question is what is the mix and what is the date?
And when he says help's on the way and then it doesn't happen within 24 hours, we shouldn't be unnerved by that.
The truth of the matter is Iran's halfway around the world and it's not as easy to do this as it would be in Caracas.
But what is certain is this military under this president and Peteg Seth and the team that Trump has assembled is absolutely going to be successful in what they do.
And I think we could be on the brink of this regime toppling.
I agree with your analysis.
I'm not sure Americans fully appreciate the courage of the Iranian people.
This is an incredibly brutal regime with a vicious secret police.
Now there's huge disinformation that those protesters are being killed or being killed by Israeli agents who are doing it as a provocation.
I reject that entirely.
This is a manifestation of the fact that conditions in Iran have really eroded to the fact that people's quality of life has been badly disturbed.
There's a lack of food.
There's a lack of fuel.
There's a lack of gainful employment.
This is a society that is collapsing before our very eyes.
And I don't think you're going to have an invasion.
I'm not sure that's going to be necessary.
I think this brutal regime is going to topple on its own.
And then the question becomes: what comes next?
I am opposed to moving from a theocracy back to a monarchy.
I don't think that's the answer.
Obviously, I would like to have to see the nation have free, fair, open elections and a democratic process to select a way forward.
I'm not sure that that is immediately realistic.
What do you see coming up in Iran post-regime?
Well, you and I have friends on both sides of the question of is Reza Pahlavi the right guy to lead a transition.
And some of our friends are concerned that he may be in league with the Revolutionary Guard, and other of our friends poo-hoo that.
And the truth of the matter is, we can't know until something happens.
But Reza Pahlavi has consistently called for a transitional government that becomes a secular democracy.
And he seems to be patterning what he has in mind on Juan Carlos in Spain.
After Franco died, he had decided to bring back the monarchy, and Juan Carlos was the next one in line.
And so he sets up Juan Carlos, who immediately calls elections and creates a constitutional monarchy not that different from the one in Great Britain.
So if Reza Pahlavi were able to bring that to pass, it would be just unbelievable for the region.
First of all, the main threat to every Gulf state and to Israel would just be gone.
Iran would become not just a free country, but an ally of the United States and of Israel as it was before the Islamic Revolution in 79.
But we're also seeing some interesting developments on the religious side.
People have clearly rejected the Islamic theocracy.
And in the process, a great many of them seem to be rejecting Islam itself.
So we're seeing a rise of Zoroastrianism, which is the historic religion of Persia.
We're also seeing a rise of Christianity in a lot of places.
So this could really be a staggering development for the Middle East.
And we could see the resumption of the westernization of one of the most important countries in the region.
Folks, if you're just tuning in, we're talking to Rod Martin of the Rod Martin Report.
Go to rodmartin.org.
And when we come back, I want to get Rod Martin's views on the events in Venezuela.
So whatever you do, don't touch that dial.
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And we're back in the Stone Zone.
We're going to wrap up our conversation with Rod Martin.
Rod Martin produces the Rod Martin report.
You can go to rodmartin.org, some of the most incisive analysis you'll find anywhere on the internet.
And we're very pleased to have him with us.
Rod, while I have you, I have to get your assessment on the situation in Venezuela.
Now, I'm certainly not a neocon, nor am I an isolationist.
I kind of consider myself a non-interventionist, if you will.
But this was a law enforcement action backed up by the U.S. military.
If this was regime change, well, then Delsey would not be the current president, at least on paper, of the country.
Once again, you see Trump projecting American power, but in a limited way, as he did in Iran when he disabled, at least temporarily, their nuclear weapons development program.
Once again, limited projection of American power.
No boots on the ground, no American casualties, no long-term presence in Venezuela.
But I'd like to get your assessment.
Well, the Iran operation is the template.
It just couldn't be clearer what this president is doing that's different from the neocons.
The neocons wanted to go out into the world on a big crusade and reshape the planet in their image.
And there's not necessarily that much of a limit to the American power to do that, but there's a tremendous limit to the American stomach for 20 years of occupying some foreign country somewhere.
And Donald Trump is just never going to do that.
So, first of all, in the Iran operation, the 12-day war, he got the Israelis to do the heavy lifting.
This is exactly what's going on with NATO when we're demanding that they actually pony up 5% of GDP for their own defense.
We want these allies, if you can call them that, to be true partners and not dependents in our basement.
And it's just very simple.
And so the Israelis took on the heavy lifting, and we showed up with the bombers at the key moment at Fordo and Natan and Isfahan.
Well, Venezuela is very much the same.
Here we didn't really have to do much bombing.
We went in with a surgical strike.
We captured this man who has been indicted in a U.S. court.
He is absolutely an international criminal, he and his wife.
And in capturing him, it's an entire domino effect.
And the president is just brilliant at this sort of thing.
It's not just a de facto regime change without the troops and without the occupation, although it is that because every single member of the Rump government in Caracas knows that they're next and they can share a cell beside Maduro if they don't do what the president says.
So when he said the other day that he's the de facto acting president of Venezuela, he's really actually, despite kidding, pretty serious.
And that really is the reality.
But it's not just that.
In cutting off Venezuelan oil to Cuba, that regime is teetering on the brink.
In going after the shadow fleet tankers coming in and out of Venezuela, you're sending a message to Vladimir Putin that he's not going to have any resources to fight his war in Ukraine.
He's got to come to the peace table.
It also hurts China because they're counting on Iranian and Venezuelan oil that travels in that shadow fleet.
And in all these ways, Donald Trump has advanced American interests.
Very well put.
Thanks for Listening00:01:46
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Rod, thank you for joining us tonight in the Stone Zone and to our regular listeners.
God bless you and Godspeed.
Thank you for joining us.
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No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
They employ our neighbors and keep our families healthy.
But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
Tell Congress, protect patient care to keep America strong.