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Dec. 26, 2025 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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The Stone Zone | 12-25-25

The Stone Zone dissects Nixon’s 1972 Christmas bombing of Haiphong Harbor, Trump’s $7M Mar-a-Lago purchase (now a $1M+ club), and Hunter Biden’s laptop claims—backed by NY Post—exposing alleged bribery and treason. It contrasts McCarthy’s 1950s anti-communist exposes (later validated) with today’s ignored corruption, like Biden’s Chinese-funded academic chair, while scrutinizing Afghan migrant Rahmanullah Lakawa’s CIA-linked attack near the White House. The episode ties unvetted border crossings to abandoned U.S. military gear in Afghanistan—now in China—and ends questioning media narratives on migrant threats. [Automatically generated summary]

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Mar-Lago: The President's Special Place 00:14:04
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Welcome to the Stone Zone on this Christmas Day.
It was Christmas Day in 1972 that President Richard Nixon ordered the intense bombing and mining of Haiphong Harbor, as well as other targets in North Vietnamese in Vietnam in order to try to force the North Vietnamese to the table.
So this is the day historically on which we join you.
Nobody is having a better Christmas than President Donald Trump and the First Lady, Melania.
Her decor for both the White House and for Mar-Lago is really extraordinary, as is her incredible personal style and the way she dresses.
That she has never been on the cover of Vogue is a politically correct outrage.
Of course, Michelle Obama on the cover of all of the major women's magazines, whereas Melania, who is both chic, highly intelligent, very kind, speaks seven languages, very wise, and a key advisor and helpmate to her husband, has been shunned by the mainstream media.
But still, she is elegant and she is active and she speaks her mind.
She's done an amazing job on that decor for Christmas.
But the president is really in a special place when he is at Mar-Lago.
For those who have never been there or will never be there, it is really a mystical place.
It was originally the home of Meriwether Post.
Marjorie Meriwether Post was, of course, the businesswoman and socialite who owned the post-serial fortune.
And it was built between 1924 and 1927.
At the time of her death, it was essentially deeded to the U.S. government.
It's an opulent Spanish-style 30s mansion.
When I was working for Donald Trump in the 90s, I guess it was, that he purchased it.
We were flying one weekend from New York.
I was living in New York at the time, flying to Florida for the weekend.
I joined him on his plane flying out of Teterboro to Florida.
And he said to me, I'm going to look at this property.
This around 1985, I guess, 84.
I'm going to look at this property that I'm thinking of buying in Palm Beach.
Do you want to go with me?
And I said, certainly.
So we walked through the property, which at that point, Mar-Lago, had been boarded up for over 15 years.
It had been examined by Richard Nixon, who actually there's a record that Nixon flew there with his best friend, Bibi Rabozo, from Key Biscayne to examine it.
The government opened up for a walkthrough.
It was elegant, but even then, Nixon thought it was much too opulent to fit his everyman image.
The club was ultimately purchased.
But anyway, we looked at it and Trump said, what do you think?
And I said, wow, it needs a lot.
And he said, this could truly be magnificent.
Magnificent.
I said, are you going to buy it?
He said, only if I can steal it.
Now, initially, the president, then the real estate developer offered the Post family and the government $15 million, which was rejected.
Then Trump very wisely purchased land between the club and the ocean front from a man named Jack C. Massey, the former owner of Kentucky Fried Children, for $2 million, announcing that he intended to build a home that would block Mar-lago's view of the beach.
This threat caused competing interests in Mar-Lago to decline.
Trump ultimately purchased a property then for $7 million, stealing it, illegally in 1985.
Some have put the sources at slightly higher, but today it's abundantly clear that he bought a property for between $7 and $10 million that had an assessed value in the bankruptcy of $20 million with the interior furnishings alone being purchased at $8 million, being appraised at $8 million.
So it was indeed a steal.
This was the opulent home where Meriwether Post and her famous actress daughter, Dina Merrill, the famous Dina Merrill, she had a children's room there that had pink hand-painted tile with little bunnies and so on.
It's an upstairs bedroom.
So the president has left it intact.
It is incredible.
But Meriwether Post would have these weekends on which she would have 20 or 30 couples.
So upstairs, there's an upper deck of private rooms, which is what ultimately lent this to being a club.
The president had it as his principal residence until the 1990s.
And it is really quite extraordinary.
But it was then and only then he decided to make it a club, which was very alarming to the Palm Beach residents because the Bath and Tennis Club and the other more venerable traditional clubs in old Palm Beach really did not look kindly on people who were black or Hispanic or Jewish or Catholic.
And Trump's club, he made clear, would be open to all.
He ultimately won the rights to turn part of the estate into a private club.
And the club now functions while he is there as president, which is an extraordinary thing.
The president has his own apartment, which is heavily guarded by the Secret Service.
I was always concerned when I visited him during his first presidency and when I visited him in Mar-Lago during the beginning of this presidency, that the Secret Service protection seemed very lax.
That is no longer the case.
You have to go through a gauntlet where they have to do a background check on you before you're given a QR code.
You have to check in.
They go through your car looking with mirrors at the bottom.
They go through the trunk and under the hood.
They check the vehicles for weapons and so on.
So it's much, much tighter.
It's, of course, tighter on those nights that the president is there.
Now, it's like a medieval court in the sense that the president eats out on this round terrace and therefore tables closest to his table are covered.
His table is surrounded by velvet ropes and there are four to six secret service agents surrounding his table so that the poor man can eat.
Otherwise, he would have an endless stream of people asking for selfies or wanting to promote themselves to be Assistant Secretary of the Navy.
Of course, many of these people are the president's friends and larger donors.
But it's interesting to see the way people jockey to catch his eye, to try to anticipate his route when he comes from his private residence out to dinner.
There is always a standing ovation when he comes.
Of course, he loves that.
And if there was a band, the band would be playing Hail to the Chief.
The president loves that song.
So it's really a mystical place.
It's also a place, of course, where a lot of business gets done.
The president entertains there on the weekends.
And it is there that the reception for his marriage to Milani was held.
The actual church was the Bethesda by the Sea church in Palm Beach.
It's actually the church at which Trump and the beautiful Milani Knaus got married.
My wife and I were guests at that wedding.
It was a beautiful, beautiful wedding.
It was then the ceremony, which was attended by Bill and Hillary Clinton, among others.
Chris Matthews and his wife sat next to my wife and I in our row at church, go figure.
But the president loves Mar-a-Lago.
He's relaxed there.
And it is great to see these images.
I think that the quality of the food cannot be understated.
The perfection of the entire experience cannot be understated.
The president is fanatical about the quality of the food.
And it is just very top-notch in every way.
I have a firm policy when I am invited there as a guest, because I, of course, am not a member, by the way.
Membership, which was once, I think, $50,000, has now cloned close, has now climbed to over a million dollars.
I think that price may be negotiable for some friends of the president, but some people have paid as much as $2 million to become a member of this club, which has obviously a limited number of members.
And there's a long, long waiting list.
The service is extraordinary.
The food is incredible.
And it is a great, great time.
I was, I guess my blood boiled a little bit over the holidays when I watched Hunter Biden on the Sean Ryan show complaining about how the 1% get away with everything.
He's the one who failed to report millions of dollars of income for he and his family.
And the U.S. attorney in Delaware, aware of the fact that he had this unreported income, let those tax charges expire, as opposed to my case in which I simply ran out of money.
But I reported every penny of my taxes, and I reported all of my assets.
The Biden Justice Department sued me in a civil action, but the press release didn't live up to their indictment, and there was no evidence of tax evasion.
My wife and I simply ran out of cash and we will be paying them with interest and penalties probably for the rest of our lives.
But we had paid them regularly for seven years without missing a payment until they bankrupted me.
And then they sued me over my inability to pay.
Makes very little sense.
Quite different than Hunter Biden, who skipped out on millions and millions of income that he never declared.
And again, the government let those charges expire knowingly.
So it was outrageous for him to be complaining about the 1% who get away with everything.
The 1% is Joe Biden and his brother Jim and his son Hunter, who you could call the facilitator.
Once again, Hunter Biden says in his interview with Sean Ryan, who's a very popular podcast, that the laptop has been manipulated or is somehow not real.
All of that is false.
The laptop results, as reported by the New York Post, a story broken by Miranda Devine, well covered in Breitbart News.
The New York Post got banned before the election off of Twitter over that story, which was that is itself outrageous.
All of that has been documented by the Marco Polo nonprofit organization.
You can go to marcopolo.org, marcopolo.org.
You can download all of the laptop or you can get the printed version.
It's appropriately blurred in the parts that are pornographic.
But what you see there are 154 crimes, mostly the crime of bribery, but also crimes of treason, which the Biden crime family syndicate took in millions and millions of dollars.
And some of it, yes, went to the big guy, Joe Biden.
So the idea that he's complaining that some people get away with everything is really extraordinary.
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White House Christmas Mystery 00:04:25
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Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
So I went to the White House Christmas party last Monday night, and it was an extraordinary experience.
The president, of course, spoke briefly.
Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy was there.
Attorney General Pam Andi was there.
Republican strategist and pollster Tony Fabrizio was there.
It was the FBI director Cash Batel was there.
The CIA Director John Ratcliffe was there.
It was a great, great crowd.
Laura Loomer was there, to the surprise of some.
And it was very, very elegant.
The Marine string quartet played.
The food was extraordinary.
They had this tenderloin that just would blow your mind, but incredible smoked salmon, a pork belly, which was very interesting.
Great, great desserts.
I mean, the food was extraordinary, although I barely got to nibble on it.
It's instructive, I think, to look at how the presidents have treated Christmas in the White House.
On the holiest of days, this is the holiest of day.
It's interesting that in the earliest days of the Republic, Christmas was not the major public holiday that we know today.
Presidents like Washington and John Adams treated it really as a quiet religious observance, often marked by church attendance, private family meals, and written correspondence, but no tradition of gift giving and so on.
The president himself was deliberately restrained in those days.
So there were no decorations like no public celebrations and no political theater.
That began to change in the 19th century.
Christmas naturally evolved into the national holiday.
America developed into a preeminent world power.
Presidents, or let's face it, politicians, increasingly used it symbolically as an example of civic virtue in family life.
So Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln kept modest Christmases because they were both affected by war.
But Lincoln, who's governing during the Civil War, continued the tradition of charity.
I mean, donating to wounded soldiers and orphans while reminding Americans that peace and goodwill were not luxuries during the Christmas months.
The modern White House really took place in the late 1800s.
Benjamin Harrisman was actually the first president to install a Christmas tree.
I used to call him Benny, I'm told, in 1889, setting a precedent that endures today.
If you've looked at some of our middle presidents, like Benjamin Harrison and others, it's amazing.
A lot of these guys, it kind of looks like Z. Z Topp, Rutherford B. Hayes, James Garfield, these guys all long beards, but those were amongst some of our greatest, if less heralded presidents.
By the 20th century, Christmas had become more of a family celebration, symbolic moment of national unity.
That symbolism was used very extensively by Franklin Roosevelt, who gave a Christmas radio address every year, which for a sitting president was a very big deal.
Radio addresses by Roosevelt emphasize sacrifice, faith, endurance, messages meant for the factory workers and soldiers overseas.
So Christmas helped boy spirits during the war.
Anyway, we're back in just a moment on this Christmas Day, so don't go away.
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Alger Hiss Was a Spy 00:15:11
If you've read any of my books, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, or the Bush Crime Family, The Clintons' War on Women, the book in which I am, I think, the second author in the country to fully expose Jeffrey Epstein and his closeness to Bill Clinton, as well as the bounds of his relationship with Donald Trump.
And of course, there is the making of the president 2016.
The judge threatened to throw me in jail when I published a book entitled The Myth of Russian Collusion, claiming that it would violate a gag order, even though the publication date was prior to the imposition of that unconstitutional gag order.
See, that's the worst thing about being lynched by the federal government.
They take away your rights in court.
You're not allowed to prove your innocence, although under the law, they're supposed to prove your guilt.
You're not required to prove your innocence, but you're really required to do so.
But they won't allow you to introduce any evidence that would do so.
In my case, it was based on the false premise that the Russians, through their intelligence, had hacked to the DNC.
They were subject to an online hack, and that information had somehow made its way to WikiLeaks through me or with my knowledge, which is, of course, not true because I could have proved with forensic evidence and expert testimony that there was no online hack.
The FBI admitted they never examined the devices.
So, one of the two pillars of the Russian collusion, that the Russians hacked the DNC, is a complete fabrication.
The head of the company who made that assessment, Fusion GPS, actually testified, pardon me, CrowdStrike, one company, CrowdStrike, who Sean Henry, who happened to be a former deputy of special counsel Robert Mueller, testified that he had no such proof that the Russians had hacked the DNC, but I was allowed to show that in court.
History, the fake news media just kind of makes the narrative.
I've been studying the career of the much vilified Senator Joseph R. McCarthy.
McCarthy has been typecast in history as a villain and his critics insist that he was a reckless, drunk demagogue and that he steered and destroyed innocent people for which he actually would be censured by the U.S. Senate.
That's because Joe McCarthy went after communism as the international menace, which had indeed infiltrated our government.
And in truth, everything McCarthy exposed, including communists like Bella Dodd and Owen Lattimore and others, were indeed Russian agents.
If you have any questions about the fact that McCarthy actually ferreted out and exposed communist corruption in our government, there's a book called Blacklisted by History by M. Stanton Evans.
Ann Coulter once called this the greatest book written since the Bible.
And it tells in painstaking detail how tail gunner Joe, an ex-Marine, actually exposed the communist corruption that today thoroughly infects our federal government, academia, entertainment, and business, with the Chinese communists buying influence at the highest levels of U.S. government and all of those institutions.
Joe McCarthy was absolutely right.
McCarthy himself is kind of an interesting character.
He was a country judge, a Marine veteran who was indeed a tail gunner, who challenged Robert M. La Follette Jr. in the U.S. Senate primary.
La Follette was a sitting U.S. Senator and incumbent, and he was the son of Robert M. La Follette Sr., who had also been a U.S. Senator.
They dominated the Republican Party, later became progressive.
But McCarthy really, just by his dogged driving county to county and campaigning as a country judge and without really mentioning the communist menace yet, won the U.S. Senate seat and beating a La Follette in Wisconsin was an extraordinary feat.
Now, Joe McCarthy, whose name is now tied to McCarthyism, has been vilified by one of the great villains of all times.
But he actually once employed both Roy Cohn, later the notorious lawyer and power broker, as well as Robert F. Kennedy Sr.
Interestingly enough, Joe McCarthy, as a bachelor, actually briefly dated Patricia Kennedy, the sister to President John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy, who later married the actor Peter Lawford.
Joseph R. McCarthy, pardon me, Joseph P. Kennedy, John Kennedy's father, who's a partner with Frank, partner with the mob, really, with Frank Costello, controlling all of bootlegging and illegal liquor from New York all the way up to the Canadian border.
Also flamboyant, former SEC chairman, bought a Hollywood studio, made millions of dollars on Wall Street.
Joe Kennedy was a staunch anti-communist, a close friend and supporter of J. Edgar Hoover's, really the man who pushed John F. Kennedy into the presidency.
But he was a major donor to Senator McCarthy.
When Joe McCarthy died, Robert and Ethel Kennedy were actually the lone Democrats at Joe McCarthy's funeral.
Roy Cohn, of course, was the son of a Tammany judge who'd used his father's political connections to become a federal prosecutor.
Cohn famously prosecuted the Rosenberg case.
He has a very famous line in front of the judge when a judge asks him if there's any doubt about the request for the death penalty.
And Cohn said, Your Honor, if I could flip the switch myself, I would.
He joined McCarthy as counsel to his subcommittee.
Cohn was actually a genius in many ways.
He was McCarthy's brain.
He understood the tabloid media.
He had very close relationships among the reporters and columnists who shaped the public narrative about what was happening in Washington.
Cohn was very adept at leaking information to build McCarthy's image and the public profile of their fight against communism.
McCarthy was given to pretty heavy drinking.
In the end, of course, they tried to accuse him of being a drunk.
But the problem was McCarthy struck too close to home, made the fatal mistake of taking on the U.S. Army, and that would end his downfall.
President Eisenhower, who McCarthy had supported in 1952, turned decisively against him.
And the media of its day, led by Edward R. Murrow, a very powerful radio voice, and all of the other major columnists, turned on McCarthy with a vengeance, distorting his claims, depicting him as a bully, a drunkard, a homosexual, and a villain.
But that's not the true story of Senator Joe McCarthy.
Tail Gunner Joe rose to prominence in the 1950s actually because he dared to state a truth that the American establishment of the day found intolerable communism was not just some foreign abstraction, but it was a domestic infestation.
As a driving member of the House Un-American Activities Committee, quite separately from McCarthy, Congressman Richard M. Nixon proved that Alger Hiss had been a communist spy.
Now, Hiss ultimately would be convicted of perjury for lying about being a communist spy.
And the liberals insisted for years that Nixon, who used the Hiss case to spring into national prominence, because a communist spy who'd been at the highest levels, had been at Roosevelt's sleeve at Yalta, had been at the highest levels of the State Department that divided up Europe and gave control of Halfa and much of Europe to Russian communism,
put them behind the Iron Curtain, was a huge story that catapulted Nixon into national prominence.
It's interesting that years later, when the Soviet Russian government fell and all of the KGB records were finally revealed, we found that in fact, Alger Hiss actually was a Russian spy.
And Alger Hiss had been passed documents by a fellow communist at the time, Whitaker Chambers.
Whitaker Chambers was an editor at time.
He was a hard-drinking and intellectual and very religious man who had been a communist, become disillusioned, had become a conservative.
But he had testified that Hiss passed him micro film documents to pass to their Russian handlers.
Alger Hiss denied that, denied knowing Chambers, later conceded that he may have known Chambers under a different name.
But ultimately, the typewriter that Hiss had used to send things to Chambers and the exact match proved that Chambers was telling the truth.
Anyway, the Russian records would later tell us that Alger Hiss was a spy.
So Nixon was absolutely right about that.
It is amazing how they have vilified McCarthy.
He fought in the hearing rooms, the committee chambers, media arenas, where reputations were easily weaponized and truth was treated as heresy.
He did it during the post-war moment when Stalin had already enslaved Eastern Europe, Mao had butchered China, and American secrets were already bleeding into Soviet hands.
The Rosenberg case, of course, is a perfect example.
McCarthy understood that civilization would collapse not only by invasion, but by internal corrosion.
This is what McCarthy turned out to be absolutely right about.
He recognized that America could be strangled slowly through bureaucratic capture, cultural degradation, and moral disarmament.
Or as they said in Pogo, we have met the enemy and they is us.
The communist infiltration in our government ended up with our using USAID to actually fund every crazy Kakamimi left-wing color revolution, pro-impeachment, anti-free enterprise, pro-censorship initiative imaginable, including many that were strictly and totally political.
So they were using our own tax dollars against Donald Trump and anyone who agreed with him, meanwhile, undermining us and helping give more and more power to the Chinese.
Unless one wakes up to the great danger of China, one does not understand the peril that America faces.
Russia, I'm no fan of the Russians.
I have relatives mowed down by Russian tanks in Budapest in 1956, and they are authoritarians.
But we share with them a problem with radical Islam.
They are a Christian-based nation, and the churches are open, although somewhat controlled.
And at the same time, China is moving into a vacuum around the world.
China has bought up near control of rare earth minerals that need to make things like chips and batteries and other key elements.
President Trump has an initiative to very quickly get Americans mining, control of mining of these rare earth minerals.
They have also given huge dollars to academic institutions.
They paid Joe Biden, the former vice president, almost $1 million to endow a chair for classes that he never taught, so that he just was essentially putting Chinese money into his pocket.
Of course, he won't be prosecuted for that because he's part of that 1% that Hunter Biden was whining about who get away with everything.
Anyway, I'm Roger Stone.
Thanks for joining us on this Christmas Day show, the day Richard Nixon bombed Hanoi.
Very famously said that he left the Oval Office and went over to his corner office in the old executive office building.
And after talking with Dr. Kissinger, made the decision to devastatingly blow the attack North Vietnam on Christmas Day to try to bring them around.
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Belief in Afghan Asset 00:04:27
I continue to examine the case of Rahmanullah Lakawa, the Afghan national who is now charged with fatally shooting two National Guard members near the White House last month.
Only one of the two died.
Thankfully, the second life was saved, a move that will now set this monster up to deceive the death penalty, fulfilling a pledge made by Attorney General Pam Bandi.
But what surprises me is Lachin Wild 29 got into the country and had only one year to apply for asylum.
And this is when Joe Biden left in 2022, I believe it was.
Yet he waited two years or three years past the time he was supposed to receive asylum to get asylum status.
That's quite suspicious.
But then you learn that he worked with and for the CIA in the country, so in Afghanistan.
So I believe that he is or was an asset.
U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro said that their office sees the gravity of the crime, noting that the woman who was murdered, Sarah Beckstrom, 20, was therefore allowed prosecutors to consider capital punishment.
Beckstrom tragically shot with her own service weapon.
Both the other officer, both of these fine Americans from West Virginia, has survived for which we really are quite grateful.
The U.S. Attorney says that they are going to seek the death penalty.
Lackawal was wounded, entered the United States in 2021, which was just months actually after Joe Biden boxed the Afghanistan withdrawal, leaving, I think, 31, 39, 31, I think it is, service people to die, and additionally leaving not hundreds of millions, but billions of dollars of sophisticated military equipment behind.
Equipment immediately transferred to the communist Chinese, who technologically knocked it off.
One of the stupidest things ever.
At a minimum, as Trump has pointed out, our military should have destroyed it on their way out to stop it from falling in enemy hands if we couldn't get all of this very sophisticated military equipment out of the country.
It is very interesting that he has porously moved into this country.
But thousands others let through the floodgates at the same time.
We were told by the administration that these people were scrupulously screened.
But if that were true, then he would never have been able to get in three years after the deadline.
So I think it is abundantly clear that there's more to the story.
And this looks to me like a terrorist act.
Now, I can read that they're searching for his motive.
Yeah, it is also reported in the same reports that he held Ali Akbar, in which case his motive, I think, is abundantly clear.
But I'd like to be certain that he was, in fact, a fanatic operating on his own and not an asset given his background and the strange circumstances into which he got into the country.
They call this conspiracy theorists because we try to look at the facts of all of these complicated cases and we just don't believe what the mainstream media tells us in any of these high level publicly prominent cases.
So this is yet another one to watch.
Why We Protect Patient Care 00:01:46
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