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July 30, 2025 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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The Stone Zone | 07-29-25

Roger Stone dissects Epstein’s ties to Democrats, citing Bill Clinton’s 26 flights on his plane and Trump’s 2019 prosecution of Epstein for child trafficking while slamming Biden’s handling of Ghislaine Maxwell. He praises Trump’s $199B government savings via Doge but criticizes Elon Musk’s shift away from him. Stone backs CIA Director Ratcliffe’s declassified claims of FBI framing, dismisses climate alarmism, and attacks NYC’s pro-Palestinian mayoral candidate Mamdani as a Marxist. He also accuses NY AG Letitia James of enabling Iranian sanctions evasion and hints at legal action, framing Trump’s policies as tougher than Biden’s on Ukraine and NATO. [Automatically generated summary]

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Jeffrey Epstein Affair Unwinding? 00:13:15
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Well, I said on social media days ago that the only political figures who visited Jeffrey Epstein's Orgy Island were Democrats.
People say, well, how do you know that?
I know that because in 2015, I think I am the first major American author to write extensively about the Epstein case in my book, The Clinton's War on Women, the longest chapter in the book, Chapter 7, Orgy Island, a title I took from my good friend Sean Hannity.
And therefore, I had the FAA manifests, which show you everyone who was on Jeffrey Epstein's plane and where they took off from and where they landed.
Bill Clinton was on the plane 26 times, but you could also see that in a number of those occasions, he did not have his Secret Service detail with him.
He dumped them.
He has to actually sign a release every time he does that.
And as for those on X who say, oh, Roger Stone was seen on Epstein's Island, he was wearing a bull mask, but we know it was him because of his Nixon tattoo.
I say it yet again.
If anybody wants to say that and attach their name to it, I'll be happy to file a defamation lawsuit against them because it is a vile lie.
Never met Epstein, never socialized with him.
I did see him once.
He was all the way over in a public event in a ballroom for a charitable event that I attended with Donald Trump.
I don't think Trump even came in contact with him that particular day.
I did see him one time, but not in his close proximity.
So while Trump achieves these massive victories on trade and immigration while putting child porn networks out of commission, thanks to the excellent work of FBI Director Kash Patel, he's still being dogged by the fake news media regarding the Jeffrey Epstein affair.
Frankly, it's at this point a distraction.
This is what I call the Epstein hoax that attempts to slime Trump through exaggerated and non-existent ties to the deceased pedophile.
That they knew each other in the 80s and early 90s in New York in Palm Beach is beyond dispute.
That Trump was on the plane several times when his plane was in for service is beyond dispute, but they never went to the island or to Epstein's Paris apartment or to his ranch in New Mexico or to his little St. James Island.
The flights involving Donald Trump went from Teterboro in New Jersey, which serves New York City, private airport, to Palm Beach and back on numerous occasions.
His then wife, Marla Maples, who was at my wedding when Mrs. Stone and I were married with the Don and their daughter Tiffany and a nanny were with them.
So there is no allegation in any of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein, those women who refused to settle and pursue lawsuits against him.
I read every word of those pleadings, every word in those cases.
If you spoke to Virginia Roberts Guffray and her attorney, they would tell you the only public figure who helped her, who was of material assistance to her in a lawsuit, was Donald Trump.
So it is a fake news cycle here, aided and abetted by Democrats like Dick Durbin.
Dick Durbin moved in the Senate to block the release of Epstein's so-called client list, but now he's jumping up and down demanding it.
Senator Durbin's not going to be happy when he sees what he gets because everybody who went to the island, all political figures, were Democrats.
This shows you how badly Elon Musk's Grok works.
They criticized that statement because they said that, well, Prince Andrew and Israeli Prime Minister Elhud Barak, both of whom were on the island, were not Democrats.
Well, what I meant was no American political figure who went to the island was a Republican, not one.
Trump said recently that Epstein tried to steal people who worked at Mar-Lago.
I told him never to do that again.
He did do it again.
So I threw him out of the place, made him persona non grata.
I threw him out and that was it.
This was 2005.
I'm glad I did, if you want to know the truth, Trump said.
It's also my understanding that Trump was enraged when Epstein made an indecent advance to one of the underage employees at the spa in Mar-Lago.
That was Virginia Roberts Giuffray, a woman who they told us only weeks ago committed suicide.
Even though she specifically said, if they tell you I committed suicide, don't believe it.
And her father, whose audio we played on this show, insists that there's no way she committed suicide.
Having interviewed her for six hours in preparation for my book and read every bit of her sworn testimony, she is the witness of the only known appearance of Donald Trump at Jeffrey Epstein's home in Palm Beach, which was for a charitable public function.
She said that Trump was a perfect gentleman and she never saw any inappropriate conduct in his behalf.
Contrast that with Bill Clinton.
She specifically says she attended a party on the island that Bill Clinton was present for and that two 17-year-olds had been flown in from New York for Bill Clinton's entertainment.
She could not say definitively whether the former president had sex with him because she was led out of the room and forced to have sex with someone else.
It is the Trump administration that prosecuted Jeffrey Epstein in 2019 for two counts, one count of child sex trafficking and one count of conspiracy to engage in child sex trafficking.
I was among the first to suggest, now that Epstein is dead, that the release of the grand jury testimony and the search warrants in that 2029 case would give you great insight into Epstein's so-called client list, because one cannot engage in a conspiracy by themselves.
By definition, a conspiracy must involve more than one person.
But as we saw in Florida, where a Democrat judge, Emmy Rosenberg, denied the efforts to release the grand jury testimony in the mid-20s case against Epstein, the one in which he got a slap on the wrist.
And it is now before two different Democrat judges in New York.
I'm willing to bet that both of them will refuse to unseal the grand jury testimony.
So who is it that's conducting the cover-up?
Trump's made it clear that his own words had no tolerance for Epstein's weird behavior.
It's time for Democrat judges to release the Epstein grand jury testimony so we can find out who was really involved in this pedophile ring.
Meanwhile, Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice, his pimp, Ghislaine Maxwell, sat for a nine-hour deposition.
This was two full days under oath with no immunity agreements, no friendly prosecutors, no sweetheart deal.
Why didn't the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York under Joe Biden, Damien Williams, never even conducted a single deposition with her?
Why didn't the Biden prosecutor want to know what Ghislaine Maxwell knew?
You see, it's done quite differently in the Trump administration.
It is the first time that Maxwell has ever been deposed by any U.S. Justice Department official.
So for some reason, the deep state was not particularly interested in the information that she knew.
They were happy to let her die in prison with the information.
But this has now changed because Donald Trump is in the White House.
Additionally, Jeffrey Epstein's moneyman, Les Wexner, the Victoria secret founder, was also never questioned or deposed by the Department of Justice.
Now, it's very interesting.
Wexner, at some point, signs over all of his wealth through a power of attorney, turning over his entire multi-billion dollar business empire to Epstein.
Wexner also resigns from his country club, cuts off all of his childhood friends, essentially becomes a recluse.
Could a cover-up be any more obvious than what was going on?
It's going to take a long time for this conspiracy, a conspiracy of this magnitude, to completely unwind, kind of similar to the Russia gate scam that is now finally being exposed to the public thanks to the courage of the director of national intelligence, Tosi Gabbard.
But I stand with Trump and the Trump administration as they judicially fight now to reveal the truth and undo the damage that has been done by the globalist regime and the Biden and Obama administrations.
Harvard has indicated that they are ready to settle with the Trump administration, paying $500 million to settle a case over civil rights violations and anti-Semitism that have persisted on their campus.
The Trump administration is seeking over double what was paid by Columbia University, which paid $220 million for similar civil rights violations.
Harvard is reportedly skittish about directly paying the federal government, but have resigned themselves to the fact that they will be paying this massive sum in the very near future.
White House spokesman Harrison Fields, very good friend of mine, said, don't allow anti-Semitism and DEI to run your campus.
Don't break the law and protect the civil liberties of all students.
We are confident that Harvard will eventually come around and support the president's vision.
President Trump has these woke institutions scrambling and on the defense.
Harvard University will be forced to bend the knee and start respecting traditional American values such as free speech once again.
Meanwhile, the woke left is freaking out over an advertising campaign featuring the very shapely actress Sidney Sweeney wearing a pair of jeans.
American Eagle Outfitters filmed a shoot with Sidney Sweeney that was akin to the advertisements of old.
It featured Sweeney, very attractive young white woman in a provocative pose.
Wasn't raunchy or risque, but it was pretty sexy.
This is not the type of ad that we've become accustomed to seeing in recent years.
We're expected to celebrate a 400-pound person of color with purple hair for the sake of body positivity.
This throwback to the days when beauty and the physical form were appreciated triggered some liberals.
One morbidly obese commenter called the ads fascist propaganda.
Another cat lady said the ad looked as if Sweeney walked straight off a Nazi propaganda poster.
To these mentally defective leftists, anything traditionally or aesthetically pleasing is fascist or white supremacist.
I hope to see more of Ms. Sweeney as young men should be encouraged to find ladies of her type extremely attractive.
This is normal.
This is natural.
Ukraine's Deadline 00:15:08
This is what God intended.
And the liberals are offended about it.
Well, that means I like it even better.
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The Department of Government Efficiency, also known as Doge, kicked off by Elon Musk, has reported that it has saved nearly $200 billion since its inception by the Trump administration earlier this year.
Doge's website shows that the operation has led to an estimated $199 billion savings so far, which translates to approximately $1,232 per American citizen.
They've reportedly canceled 12,426 contracts as well as 15,488 grants.
Also, $140 million was saved because 384 federal lease terminations took place.
These cuss of waste have been particularly rocked at the U.S. Agency for International Development, or U.S. AID, which was supposed to be the agency tasked with promoting democracy and fighting communism, but turned into a slush fund used to promote woke insanity throughout the world.
Elon Musk, I think, should be rightly proud of Doge's legacy and championing their work.
Instead, right now, seems to be angry with President Trump and has retreated somewhat from politics.
Frankly, that's a shame.
I think that Elon Musk was a force for good.
Just the fact that he not only bought Twitter, converted it into X, but then very bravely released all of the records that indisputably proved that our intelligence agencies were working hand in glove with the executives at Twitter to censor anyone who questioned the outcome of the 2020 election, or questioned the safety and efficiency of the COVID-19 vaccination,
or questioned whether Hunter Biden's laptop was real.
It was.
Doge is a great idea and its legacy persists to challenge the Washington, D.C. swamp.
Musk should be doing victory laps with Trump over this achievement.
Hopefully, these two titans of politics industry will kiss and make up before long for the sake of America's national greatness.
Elon has spoken about getting a third party on the ballot in 2026 as one who bolted the Republican Party briefly to become a libertarian and helped Governor Gary Johnson get on the ballot in 2012 as a libertarian candidate.
I have to say that Elon has no idea how difficult, arcane, expensive, and convoluted that process is, particularly in an off year where you're not collecting signatures for a presidential candidate, but in some states you'd have to petition on a party.
In other states, you'd have to petition on candidates who, in many cases, no one has ever heard of.
Frankly, I don't want to see a split between among those voters who believe in common sense.
So I'm hopeful that at the end of the day, President Trump and Elon Musk will put their past differences, if they have them, behind them.
I think this problem was largely caused by staff members and perhaps by the outrageous attacks by Steve Bannon, who said that Elon Musk, who's a United States citizen, should be deported or that his businesses should be stripped from him.
That's what they do in places like Cuba.
That's called communism.
It's a bad idea.
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CIA Director John Ratcliffe is planning to declassify an annex that will show that the origins of the Russia-Russia-Russia scam will show that credible foreign sources understood from the beginning that the FBI was involved in the effort to frame Donald Trump as a Russian agent.
The conspiracy to frame Trump as a Russian asset to help the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign was so widespread that foreign governments knew about it and were actually cackling about it in another instance of the feds being absolutely disgrateful and busted.
So when Crossfire Hurricane, the counter intelligence investigation that was meant to paint Trump as a Russian agent, was launched, it was already clear that the operation was a laughable fraud.
Obama, Biden, CIA director John Brennan, the National Security Advisor James Clapper, the FBI director James Comey, perhaps the biggest rat of them all, Rod Rosenstein, and many others must now be prosecuted.
Quite frankly, if they meet any fate other than prosecution and conviction, they'll be getting off lucky.
Remind me once again, what is the penalty for those convicted of treason?
In the meantime, news reports have shown that we now have the fewest number of deaths related to extreme weather that were ever recorded since records were first taken, showing that the climate change narrative is once again a massive hoax.
In what is good news to any sane person, all four northern hemisphere ocean basins in the Atlantic, Indian, and Pacific Oceans are running below average on accumulated cyclone energy.
The North Atlantic has seen very little activity with the ACE energy measurements from January 1st to July 21st, running at only about 41% of the 1991 to 2020 average.
These are incredibly positive and revealing developments.
This is why climate change supporters have to start wildfires and do other wacky things to promote their crazy agenda.
The facts are clearly just not on their side.
Nobody cares about issues like climate change when the purchasing power of their dollar is decreasing due to inflation and when the Federal Reserve refuses to cut interest rates on the American people, at the same time, bringing on a $2.5 billion renovation to their already lavish and palatial headquarters on Constitution Avenue in Washington, D.C.
By the way, that's about a 70% cost overrun.
The director of the Federal Housing and Finance Administration, Bill Pultey, has emerged as one of the most articulate critics.
He's a builder.
He comes from a long line of builders, one of the most prominent construction and homebuilding families in the country.
Just like Donald Trump, he understands construction, and both Trump and Pulte find it difficult to understand how you could possibly spend $2.5 billion in a renovation.
And of course, Jerome Powell is busted because in his testimony before the Congress, he said the renovation plan included no private elevators for the Fed board governors, no private dining room for them, no new marble, no new fountains, no lavish roof garden.
But if you look at the plans, which you can find online, those things all turn out to be lies.
I believe he lied to Congress, but in his case, he lied over something material, the use of our tax dollars.
It is clearly time for Jerome Powell to step down as chairman of the Federal Reserve and time for him to cut interest rates on the American people so they can pay their credit card bills, they can buy a house, they can buy a car.
The economy would boom.
Bill Pultey and Donald Trump are both absolutely right.
It's time for Jerome Powell to hit the road.
In the meantime, however, these silly niche issues like climate change and the even bigger loser, the green energy initiatives, they really need to be mocked and laughed at.
This is a joke.
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky is now going to let Ukrainians over 60 years old fight in his military.
That's right.
In addition to continue to conscript 14-year-olds and 16-year-olds, Zelensky has now announced they'll be letting severely elderly people into the Ukrainian army effort.
The coke-fueled megalomaniac Zelensky signed a bill on July 29th and silently approved a measure without telling his own people.
This is an incredibly arrogant and cowardly way of doing something.
The new law allows anyone over the age of 60 years old to be conscripted into the armed services.
The feds are making it easier and easier to die for the military-industrial complex.
So instead of removing people from prisons and insane asylums, they are going out and they are drafting both underage individuals plus senior citizens.
This is becoming increasingly clear that Zelensky is desperate as he searches for more cannon fodder to face death in an endless war with the Russians.
Of course, the entire purpose of this war has been obscured from the American people.
When we allowed East and West Germany, pardon me, when the Russians allowed East and West Germany to reunify, the United States signed two different agreements, the Budapest Memorandum, signed by Secretary of State James A. Baker under George under Ronald Reagan, and later the Minsk Accords, in which we agreed not to push Ukraine into NATO,
which really is defined as not letting Ukraine mount missiles, our missiles paid for by the United States, NATO missiles, on the ground in Ukraine pointed at Russia.
This is not different than when Nikita Khrushchev put missiles 90 miles from our shore in Cuba in 1962, and President John F. Kennedy objected.
What we didn't know then, of course, is we were told in a number of, even a movie, I think it's called 13 Days, that brave Robert and John Kennedy faced down Khrushchev, and Khrushchev blinked and removed the missiles.
Folks, none of that is true.
The Kennedys reached a secret classified deal to remove our missiles from Turkey and Italy, changing the balance of power in the European theater in return for a promise by Nikita Khrushchev to remove the missiles from Cuba, but an agreement that included no online, on-site inspections.
Our longtime ambassador to Cuba, Earl E.T. Smith, an ardent anti-communist, later served as mayor of Palm Beach, Florida, believed that the missiles were never actually removed.
So it is very clear that the situation in Ukraine is analogous.
The idea that Zelensky, pardon me, the idea that Putin wants to swallow up all of Ukraine, then he's going to seize Poland and France and Germany is an absurdity that only somebody as dumb as, say, oh, I don't know, John Bolton could actually believe.
The president has gotten tougher and tougher, and he's issued an ultimatum to Vladimir Putin to end the war.
I think he's had enough of the stalling and subterfuge of Vladimir Putin, and he's tightening the deadline for Putin to end the war with Ukraine.
Trump said yesterday, I'm going to make a new deadline of about 10 to 12 days from today.
There's no reason in waiting.
We just don't see any progress being made.
Now, previously, Trump said that Putin had 50 days to end the war, but now he's apparently recanting.
He has threatened to impose 100% tariffs on Russia and its serious trading partners in the recent past.
Trump is very clear that he's had enough of Russia.
Putin is not a good guy and absolutely should not be empowered.
Of course, you remember it was President Donald Trump who gave the Ukrainian javelin missiles with which to fight the Russians.
Well, Barack Obama gave them blankets.
Who is it that's in the pocket of Russia?
Well, certainly not Donald J. Trump.
But if he can strengthen our society through trade deals by enforcing accountability and staying out of messy wars, that in itself will be a major achievement that will be lauded for generations.
As I said on yesterday's show, Donald Trump has already earned the Nobel Peace Prize, whether it is the ceasefire between Pakistan and India, whether it is ending the war between the Congo and Rwanda, whether it is his more recent announcements, he's already earned the Nobel Peace Prize.
Unfavorable Race Ratings 00:04:57
Will he win it?
Don't hold your breath.
Meanwhile, the Ayatollah Mamdami, the mayoral frontrunner of the Democrat Party, is getting a surprisingly high percentage of the Jewish vote in New York, according to a new poll.
A Zenith Research Public Progress Solutions poll shows that Mamdami, who says that he's for the Intifada, is currently getting about 43% of the Jewish vote in the city, as well as 67% of the Jewish vote of voters between the ages of 18 and 44.
This is very hard to understand why young Jewish people would be rallying behind a pro-Palestinian, pro-jihadi, pro-intifada, Marxist Miam Dami.
The answer is because the Republican Party is locally down to about 18% in their registration.
Contrast that to the time when Mayor Rudy Giuliani was elected, when Republican registration was about 32%.
Now, with the opposition to Miam Dami split between three candidates and none of them seeming to budge, I think it is increasing that Marxist is about to be mayor.
In between his position that we should defund the police, that we should do away with cash bail, and I'm sorry when he continually says that violence is a social construct.
To me, that indicates he intends to throw the doors of Rikers Island open and let all the criminals out, would fit in with the rest of his agenda.
A new poll by Kaplan and Associates, this is a rolling average poll, shows if the race happened today, the Democrat, the Ayatollah Miamdami, leads with 42%.
Independent Andrew Cuomo would be in second place with 23%.
Republican Curtis Sliwa would be in third place at 17%.
And Independent Eric Adams brings up the rear at 13%.
The way these rolling average polls work, folks, is every night you take 100 new samples.
You wait until you have 500 samples, five rolling nights, and you look at the numbers.
Then each night you drop the oldest 100.
You add a new hundred to see how the race is changing.
The race has changed little in the rolling track polls conducted by Kaplan and Associates.
We now have a thousand samples, again, dropping off the oldest hundred and adding a new hundred every night.
The only candidate who has gained is Republican Curtis Sliwa, and those gains have been modest.
Eric Adams, the current mayor, dropped briefly, down to 11.
He's back to 13.
Both those numbers, of course, within the average of the overall sample.
The story can really be told when you examine the unfavorable rating of each candidate.
This tells you much about the electability.
Eric Adams' unfavorable rating is whopping 68%.
That's 48% view him very unfavorably, while 20% view him as somewhat unfavorably.
Andrew Cuomo, once again, a whopping 41%, very unfavorable, with 16 viewing him somewhat unfavorable for a total unfavorable rating of 57.
Curtis Sliwa has a more manageable unfavorable rating of 43.
That is 33 unfavorable, very unfavorable, and 10 somewhat unfavorable.
And the Ayatollah Mamdami's unfavorables have ticked up since I've been watching this poll.
They are now at 41 unfavorable.
He's still in the poll position to win this race.
It's hard to believe that New York City is about to elect a Marxist mayor who, even as we speak, is celebrating in Uganda.
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Schoen's Legal Nuke 00:03:18
David Schoen has flipped the script on the Democrats.
He's now using the Democrats' own argument to prove that Obama can still be impeached, stripped of his constitutionally mandated immunity, and indicted for his crimes in the Russian collusion hoax.
President Trump's former impeachment attorney, Schoen, dropped this legal nuke on the legacy of Barack Obama, declaring that the 44th president of the United States can still be impeached, and if so, could lose his post-presidential immunity and face indictment for criminal conduct involved in the Russian collusion hoax itself.
This explosive revelation came just days after President Trump remarked that Obama owed him big for the recent Supreme Court decision, affirming presidential immunity for official acts committed while in office.
But Schoen says that will not let Obama off the hook.
Let's not forget, during their second failed impeachment attempt against Trump, Democrats moved the goalpost, claiming impeachment could apply even after a president leaves office.
They did this in a desperate attempt to disqualify Trump from running again, a tactic that could now come back to haunt their golden boy, Barack Hussein Obama.
President Trump is right when he said the immunity decision would help President Obama, Shoan said on Newsmax, but you know what it doesn't help him with?
Impeachment.
Shoan pointed out directly to Article 1, Section 3, Clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution, the very same clause that the Democrats used during their second impeachment of President Trump to argue that a former president could still be tried and therefore, if convicted, barred from holding office again.
In doing so, they opened the Pandora's box for the exact same standard to apply to Obama.
According to the Democrat Party and House managers in the second impeachment of a former president once in office, still subject to impeachment, Shoan explains.
So in other words, they've argued that Lincoln could be impeached, George Washington could be impeached.
Certainly, as I predicted at the time, this would come back, and it certainly said at the time they would rule the day.
That's because President Obama could be impeached if this evidence really says what Tulsi Gabbard says it says.
And that would also strip his immunity because under Article 1, Section 3, Clause 7 of the Constitution, the Democrats argue that it bars one from holding further future office.
The language itself says you're still subject to criminal prosecution or an indictment.
We'll see how this one plays out.
Meanwhile, New York Attorney General Letitia James is really in deep kimchi this time.
Turns out that Attorney General James was fully aware that the Standard Charter Bank of New York was evading the Iranian sanctions to the tune of $9.6 billion of illegal payments made by the bank to Iranian and Hezbollah entities.
Standard Charter Scandal 00:02:04
At least $9.6 billion of specifically illicit payments were made by the Standard Charter Bank from its New York City branch to OFAC and other known terrorist organizations.
The $9.6 billion was found in internal trade reports turned over by the bank whistleblowers and represents the first batch from the Standard Charter Bank to buy office that was cleared through the Standard Charter Bank of New York.
Now, here's the interesting thing.
The computer servers for the bank are actually located in northern New Jersey, northern New Jersey, where Alina Haba is the acting U.S. attorney.
Alina Haba is fearless.
I would not be shocked if we saw a raid on that facility to get the records of Letitia Games' latest crimes.
This comes, of course, on the heels of the fully exposed 22-year crime spree of mortgage fraud first uncovered by the Federal Housing and Finance Administration Agency Director Bill Potti.
I would say that Letitia James please keep reminding herself that nobody is above the law.
That includes her.
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