Rep. Tim Burchett champions the "Big Beautiful Bill," a Trump-backed economic plan he now supports after closed-door meetings, contrasting it with perceived political deception while praising Trump’s transparency. He unveils the No-Tax Dollars for the Terrorists Act, cutting $40M weekly from Taliban funding, accusing Biden of sending $5B and the State Department of corruption. Burchett slams USAID as a "radical left slush fund" tied to terrorism and DEI, crediting Trump for defunding it alongside Rubio. He ties recent GOP wins—Supreme Court limits, Iran’s nuclear setbacks—to Trump’s leadership, framing Democrats’ Marxist shift as irreversible. The episode exposes the "Russian collusion hoax" as a treasonous plot by Brennan, Clapper, and Comey, with Burchett warning Washington’s impunity persists while calling for MAGA-aligned candidates to dominate elections. His new podcast, Unscripted, aims to counter Democratic digital dominance and defend rural healthcare amid funding threats. [Automatically generated summary]
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And we're back in the Stone Zone.
I admit it, we're a little punchy because we were up all night and into the early hours of the morning watching the progress of the president's big, beautiful bill, which has now passed the U.S. House of Representatives.
Joining me now is one of my favorite members of Congress, Tim Burchett from Tennessee's 2nd District.
That's East Tennessee.
Tim is a rock rib Ronald Reagan conservative, a bulldog champion of the taxpayers of both Tennessee and America, and a Donald Trump America first loyalist.
Don't ever confuse Tim Burchett with a politician.
He is a true patriot and joins us now to talk about this historic experience.
Tim, welcome back into the Stone Zone.
Thank you, Mr. Stone.
It is always a pleasure.
And I say this with all sincerity.
I wish my mama and daddy were alive to hear me on your show.
They would just be floored that I know somebody of your stature.
And I mean that with all sincerity.
You carried the water for this country behind the scenes for a lot of years, and you continue to do it.
And I just, and I'm very grateful for you, brother.
I really am.
Well, that's very kind.
Our listeners out there in Stone Zone land love your country wisdom.
We get a lot of great comments whenever you're on because you have an amazing tendency to just tell it like it is.
But last night had to be both nerve-wracking and exciting.
You were a part of history.
I'm very familiar with the Big Beautiful Bill.
For weeks now, I have been beating back the disinformation regarding how the bill treats Social Security, how it treats Medicaid, what it does and does not do.
This is the blueprint for Donald Trump's plan to take America into the golden age.
I think we would all recognize that the bill was not perfect from the get-go.
No piece of legislation ever is, but it got increasingly better.
And those critics who say, well, it doesn't do enough to reduce spending, they're right, but this isn't the vehicle for that, is the way I look at it.
No, you're correct.
I mean, I guess it's like a nice car.
It depends on who's driving it.
And it just so happens that Donald J. Trump is driving this car or this train.
And, you know, I had a lot of questions.
And I'll be honest with you, I was not in favor of the bill because I didn't have the answers that I needed.
And President Trump took two hours yesterday, if you can believe that.
And him and JD Vance, who I'm continuing to be, I wasn't a JD Vance fan, really.
But after closed doors meetings with both of them, and it's two dadgum hours, Mr. Stone.
And he, and you've been in a room with Trump, but the thing that got me, and as I left, I was telling some people, some staffers this, they were, what do you think?
And I said, well, 14 people in a room just fastballing questions to the president.
And, you know, he answered every dadgum one of them.
But the thing I like about him is, Mr. Stone, more and more is when he doesn't have the answer, you always hear about this bravado, Trump bravado or whatever.
I don't know.
You know, I guess it's okay to be cocky when you're right and you know what you're talking about.
And he knew what the heck he was talking about on every issue.
And the thing I like the most, though, when he didn't know, he would turn to one of his experts, call him by name, and say, what's the answer to this?
And, you know, you've been in meetings with executives before many times, a lot more than I have, and world leaders, but a lot of them will just either lie to you or try to buffalo you to get you to think they know the answer.
And their arrogance won't allow them to say, I don't know.
But that's not the way it was with Trump.
And JD would fill in in certain areas and provide support when needed.
And, you know, he had people from the Treasury.
He had all his people that you see on television in there.
And I'll just be honest with you.
I left after I left there, I was in his camp on the bill because he convinced me that economically it's the right thing to do and many other reasons why as well.
Well, I think it's because he comes not from the world of politics, but from the world of business.
And in business, you can't buffalo people who are trying to make a deal with it.
They want real answers.
Trump operates like a businessman.
He likes facts, hard facts, and hard realities.
And I agree with you on your assessment of JD Vance.
I was not always a JD Vance fan, but I am today.
He's been remarkably effective behind the scenes, particularly in the confirmation of some of the president's better but more controversial cabinet picks.
He doesn't get much credit for that, but he was really the guy up on Capitol Hill rounding up the necessary votes, jawboning certain Republicans.
I think JD Vance is doing a terrific job, and I think the American people are going to learn more and more about that over time.
I do have to ask you, last time we spoke, we were talking about your bill.
It came as a shock to me, but I checked it out.
It's absolutely true.
Millions of dollars from the American taxpayers flowing to the Taliban.
And you brought this up.
You've had legislation.
You introduced a no-tax dollars for the terrorists act.
What is the status of that?
Oh, thank you so much for asking about that.
And you're correct.
It's $40 million a week.
And the State Department, who I have no love for, and never have, as even I have a document, a five-page document, says we've sent close to $5 billion.
Now it's probably more than that because it's several weeks old.
It has passed the House.
It is in the Senate.
And I'm hoping that Senator Foon will allow it to move through because Senator Sheehee, former Navy SEAL, and Tommy Tuberville, another straight talker, are both working on the bill.
And I'm going to try to get with them the first of the week and urge them along because I think the country supports things like that.
It's time to stop that nonsense, that corruption that has come out of the Biden administration.
It's just, it's almost overwhelming, Mr. Stone, to be honest with you, because of the amount of out and right just stealing.
And I think that it, I think what really has become of it, I think the money's flowing back to Washington, D.C., and I think it's flowing into the pockets of members of Congress.
And I hope they get caught.
And I don't care what party they're in.
I hope they put them in handcuffs and drag them out of this building kicking and screaming.
I think you're exactly right.
As you know, Elon Musk alluded to this back when he was running the Doge operation.
I mean, USAID, which, by the way, was never enacted by Congress.
It was created through executive order by President John F. Kennedy.
And it had a legitimate purpose at the time.
It was supposed to fund governments in our hemisphere, in Central and South America, who were fighting communism.
A lot easier to talk to people with a full belly than when they're hungry.
It had a very good and, I think, legitimate purpose when it started, but it morphed into a slush fund for the radical left.
And we were funding terrorism.
We were funding color revolutions.
We were funding impeachments.
We were funding all kinds of crazy DEI programs.
The numbers boggle the mind.
And the folks at AID, USAID, they seem to believe they answered to no one.
They were a government unto themselves.
I give big credit to Secretary of State Marco Rubio and to the president, of course, for now defunding this massive leftist slush fund.
I mean, if you're a Democrat, you haven't had a very good couple weeks.
USAID is defunded.
The Dow Industrial Average is skyrocketing.
The U.S. Supreme Court has finally limited the power of rogue leftist district judges.
Iran's nuclear weapons development program has been smashed.
Zoran Mamdami is the new face of the Democrat Party, a man who talks about seizing the means of productions.
I think he gets that right out of Marx and Engels.
A man who talks about defunding the police and opening the jails.
I kid you not.
The Republican National Committee has five times more cash on hand than the Democrat National Committee, which has to evidently go borrow to stay afloat.
Criminal, illegal aliens are being deported with greater efficiency by that great patriot Tom Holman.
President Trump is brokering peace all over, whether it's between the Congo and Rwanda, whether it is any of these world crises that he is bringing peace to.
States are beginning to defund Planned Parenthood.
128 of your Democrat colleagues actually voted against impeaching Donald Trump.
And white males like David Hogg are being kicked out of the Democrat Party like dogs.
If you're a Democrat, there's not much to smile about these days.
No, sir.
And it goes down to one person, Donald J. Trump.
Could you imagine if Joe Biden was in the White House right now?
I guarantee you, American boots would be on the ground and young boys and girls would be losing their lives in another endless war.
I just can't stress that enough, his ability to fix a problem.
I was asked by a reporter, I said, early on about his negotiating skills.
I said, the guy deals with Teamsters in New York City.
I said, I think he can handle the Middle East.
I mean, seriously.
There's no question.
No, there's no question.
He's handled that deal, and he handles it with honestly a lot of grace, really, considering.
And when he dropped his F-bomb last week about the Middle East, I was in the I talked to a lot of Democrats, especially in the gym, you know, and there's no cameras, nobody's staffed, nobody around.
And they thought that was a very accurate statement, and it needed to be said.
And, you know, and I think it summed it up.
I know Franklin Graham doesn't like all his cursing, and frankly, I'm not a fan of it, but it was accurate.
You can't say anything other than it was accurate.
And he called it, and if it wasn't for him, we would be in a hard, we would be in another endless war.
And peace is breaking out everywhere.
And the only people that are winning in the so-called Democratic Party are Marxists.
And my theory on that is that they, you can say what you want to about it, but this is my theory.
I think that the Democrats that are in power realize that they're going to lose everything, and they fear more losing their job than losing the country.
So they'll go with that far left that is just a very slim, very slim portion of their numbers, and they'll sacrifice their moderate, their moderate members on the altar of liberalism, Marxist wokeism, really.
And that's exactly what they're doing.
You're going to see a lot of those people are going to get beat and Republicans.
And what I hope is I hope that we have MAGA Republicans that we start electing and quit with the shenanigans that some of our former leadership did by undercutting those type of leaders, because that's exactly what happened in the past.
You know, I'd go to these recruiting things that look like we were recruiting for Hooters, waitresses, and not members of Congress.
And America did not respond very well to that.
And that's why we have such a, and one other thing, and I'll shut up because it's your show, but the, you know, I keep saying this, our approval rating is in the dumps, or Congress is, for good reason.
But Donald Trump is soaring.
And the reason is he listened to America and he's doing what they said.
Strong border, strong economy, strong military.
America bows to no one in this world right now.
We are the envy of the world once again, and it's because of Trump.
And if we do not acknowledge those issues, we will continue to be in a three or four person majority or possibly even lose the majority to the Marxist.
Yeah, I think we're going to defy history.
As you know, traditionally, the party in power loses seats in the off-year elections.
But traditionally, businessmen don't get elected president of the United States.
All of our presidents have been governors or senators or congressmen or generals.
So I think Trump, all of the standard rules of American politics, the conventional wisdom, if you will, I think all of that does not apply to Donald J. Trump.
Presidents aren't defeated and then lose a disputed election and return to the White House with one exception, Grover Cleveland, a Democrat who happened to be like Donald Trump from New York, actually last of the great conservative Democrats, a truly great president.
It is amazing how Trump defies all the rules and changes the whole game side of American politics.
I honestly think that when he survived an assassin's bullet in Butler, Pennsylvania, that it gave him a new urgency, not just a new serenity, because I found him much calmer and much more determined after that, but it also gave him a much greater sense of urgency.
I think he fully understands that he has four years to save this country, and he is not wasting not a single minute of it.
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Having spoken to him a couple of times extraordinarily late at night, or I should say early in the morning, he is not wasting a single minute of his time in this Herculean effort to turn around an ocean liner, to change the entire direction of the country, to return us to our fundamental constitutional roots, and to secure that golden age that you and I have talked so much about.
Folks, if you're just tuning in, we're talking to Congressman Tim Burchett from East Tennessee.
He is a former mayor of Knox County.
He is a bulldog defender of the American taxpayers, as well as the taxpayers of Tennessee.
also is a guy who tells it exactly like it is.
You're in the stone zone with Tim and I. Whatever you do, please don't touch that dial because we'll be right back for a bit more.
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Congressman Tim Vershett and I are celebrating the passage by the U.S. House of the Big Beautiful Bill.
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And Tim, I saw on X that you received a copy of my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
I hope you're enjoying the book.
It certainly is an outline of the shenanigans of the deep state.
I spoke earlier in the show about the revelations from CIA Director John Radcliffe yesterday, implicating former CIA Director John Brennan, former National Security Advisor James Clapper, and FBI Director James Comey in orchestrating the greatest single dirty trick in American political history, the Russian collusion hoax, which was nothing less than an abuse of power,
in which they used the full authority of the United States government and the extraordinary capability of our intelligence agencies to try to undo an American election and remove a duly elected president.
So I guess my question to you is, are we ever going to see justice or any of these people who have engaged in a treasonous crime, crime for which there is no statute of limitations, do you think we will ever see anybody held accountable?
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
I just, because this town is so crooked, Mr. Stone, and they protect their own.
And I just, it infuriates me.
That's why I know there's a God in heaven because there will be justice one day.
I just don't think it's going to be on this side of the grave for most of them.
I think they're going to lawyer up.
And yeah, they'll get some small potatoes like you saw at the autopin debacle at the White House.
But, you know, some small potatoes get smashed.
But the reality is, I just don't see it.
But what I would hope that would drive Americans to the polls and say, we've got to fix this.
And you all would hold us accountable.
I mean, I'll vote for it.
I'll push it.
But I'm not, you know, I'm not on the Judiciary Committee.
And I'm not one of those that's, you know, that's a little out of my realm.
But I would hope that we would, all I can do is raise hell about it.
And hopefully Danny Comer will bring it up in our committee.
And then we will have it as a, and then we will push the Justice Department to do something about it.
So I would hope that we could do that.
Because once you do one, the rest will, you know, they'll law you're up and they'll start squealing.
They'll squeal like stuck pigs.
And Dad Gummett, that would be a good start, I would think.
I completely and totally agree.
So you have a new podcast entitled Unscripted, where you'll be peering behind the veil in Washington, D.C. How will those listening be able to access your show?
And what have you planned for the initial episode?
Yes, sir.
It's on YouTube and Rumble.
And I would honestly love to get you on there.
Are you in New York?
Is that where you are?
I am actually in South Florida at this moment, but I'd be honored to be on.
We can arrange that.
I would love to, I'd go to South Florida to see you.
Honestly, I could see myself.
My wife and daughter love the sun and they love the surf.
So that would be a great thing.
And I would, but yeah, it's on YouTube and Rumble.
And we are, you know, I'm not real polished and I'm not a, I guess I'm not a wordsmith like you.
And so it's, it's, it's, I stumble through it a little bit, but people seem to enjoy it and they get a lot from it.
And we're going to start getting some people and making some people uncomfortable.
And that's, that's my goal.
I, you know, and I, they'll give me a little script, but I never follow it.
I don't know why I pay those people to do any of that stuff because I just, I get in there and get ticked off about something and I'll start railing on it and we'll start digging.
And that's, that's what I intend to do with this thing.
I, you know, it's sometimes kind of difficult to get people that are interesting because it seems like everybody's got a podcast, but it's a great way to meet, to reach out to the younger folks.
And I think us older politicians like yourself and myself, you know, it's not all bluegrass and barbecue anymore.
It is a, it's a, it's, it's, it's the social media.
It's, it's these radio shows.
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It's, it's, you know, it's all the, all the, all of the above.
And to leave any of that on the table, I think, is where Republicans miss out because the Democrats are a little bit ahead of us on that kind of stuff.
All right.
We have to, we have to end it there.
I want to thank our guest, Tim Burchett, a man who tells it like it is.
And also thank all of you for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
We'll see you tomorrow on the 4th of July.
God bless you and Godspeed.
Rural Americans deserve access to the best of what our country has to offer, especially health care.
Across every state, every community, America's rural hospitals are the first line of defense protecting our families, neighbors, and loved ones.
No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
They employ our neighbors and keep our families healthy.
But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
Tell Congress, protect patient care to keep America strong.