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May 28, 2025 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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The Stone Zone | 05-27-25

The Stone Zone honors Rick Derringer’s legacy before diving into Scott Jenkins’ Memorial Day pardon by Trump, framing his 2023 bribery conviction—a $1.5M legal battle—as a DOJ "witch hunt" tied to his opposition to Biden’s gun control and Hunter Biden laptop probe. Jenkins, who shot an active shooter in 2021, claims Judge Robert Ballou (Biden appointee) blocked exculpatory evidence, including untouched campaign cash. Trump’s pardon follows a pattern Stone links to Flynn, Manafort, and his own cases, calling it divine justice. The episode ends with a rural healthcare PSA, contrasting Trump’s border-focused military shift with past "nation-building" failures. [Automatically generated summary]

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Rick Derringer: Rock Legend Passed 00:03:05
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This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
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You are now entering the Stone Zone.
It is with great sadness that I tell you about the passing of one of my good friends, rock legend Rick Derringer, who passed away at age 77 last night.
Rick Derringer was a Grammy Award-winning American guitarist, singer, songwriter, and producer whose career spanned more than five decades.
He, of course, first rose to fame in the 1960s with the McCoy's, whose single, Hang on Sloopy, hit number one on the Billboard Hot 100, 1965.
As a solo artist, he's best known, of course, for his rock anthem, Rock and Roll Hoochie Coo, which became a top 40 hit in 1974 and remains a classic rock staple to honor this great entertainer, singer, songwriter, musician, producer.
We're going to play a little bit of rock and roll hoochie-coo.
It is with great sadness that I learned early this morning of the passing of my good friend Rick Derringer.
He collaborated extensively with Johnny and Edgar Winter, two of the greatest blues guitar artists of all time.
And of course, people don't recognize he was also a precision musician.
His iconic guitar work and many of his great songs live beyond him.
So we honor my good friend Rick Derringer.
Pardoned Sheriff Scott Jenkins 00:09:08
On Memorial Day, President Trump announced the full and unconditional pardon of former Culpuper County, Virginia Sheriff Scott Jenkins.
Like General Michael Flynn, like myself, like President Telp himself, Sheriff Jenkins was subjected to a politically motivated witch hunt and a prosecution which threatened to destroy him and his family.
He was scheduled to turn himself in at a federal prison in Virginia this morning at 10 a.m., where he would have been put in general population with drug dealers and murderers.
And frankly, I think his life would have been in great danger.
The political prosecution of Sheriff Jenkins was among the most egregious attacks on law enforcement by the Biden administration.
Jenkins was prosecuted for allegedly taking bribes to deputize several men after an elaborate FBI sting campaign, and he was sentenced to 10 years in prison after being convicted.
Here's what Donald Trump said online.
Sheriff Scott Jenkins, his wife Patricia, and their family have been dragged through hell by a corrupt and weaponized Biden DOJ.
In fact, during his trial, when Sheriff Jenkins tried to offer exculpatory evidence to defend himself, the Biden-appointed judge, Robert Ballou, refused to allow it, shut him down, and then went on a tirade.
The kangaroo court proceeding against Sheriff Jenkins was arranged by Judge Ballou and former U.S. Attorney Christopher Kavanaugh and Biden's FBI, and they were on the hunt to make an example out of a prominent MAGA figure.
Judge Ballou was appointed to the bench by former President Biden and received a glowing letter of endorsement from Virginia's two Democrat senators, U.S. Senator Mark Werner, author of the phony U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee report that was a cut-and-paste job that still claimed that there was Russian collusion with the Trump campaign, a complete falsehood, and the other senator,
Tim Kaine, who, well, he was Hillary Clinton's running mate for vice president.
U.S. Attorney Kavanaugh was also put in position by Biden, but both men thanked the president profusely in their resignation letters.
Now, Sheriff Jenkins was among the most outspoken officials in support of President Trump's agenda, and he never hesitated to use his authority to protect the rights of the people of Culpeper County.
He appeared with President Trump at the White House in a show of solidarity with other sheriffs and law enforcement officials from across the country in 2018.
This is what caused Sheriff Jenkins to gain national notoriety, but also why they painted a giant target on his back.
When former Virginia Governor Ralph Northam announced draconian gun control measures in that state, Sheriff Jenkins was out in front to oppose those limitations on our Second Amendment rights.
Sheriff Jenkins announced publicly that Northam's gun control would not be enforced in his county because he said it violated the U.S. Constitution and the rightful constitutional authority to nullify intolerable acts.
If the legislature decides to restrict certain weapons I feel harms our community, I will swear in thousands of auxiliary deputies in Culpeper.
There is no limit to the number of people I can swear in, Jenkins said at the time.
America has more guns than citizens, and murder has long been illegal at best.
The proposed gun restrictions would disarm or handicap our law-abiding citizens and possibly cause a criminal to choose another tool for evil.
So Sheriff Jenkins defined Governor Northam as well on the COVID-19 edicts, vowing not to comply with health edicts forcing businesses to close during the height of the pandemic hoax.
My request to the citizens is that we not trample the constitutional freedoms of our citizens to enforce an edict of the governor.
I speak for any of these other jurisdictions as well, the sheriff said.
So Sheriff Jenkins was the victim of lawfare from the American Civil Liberties Union for his strict enforcement of federal immigration policy.
After Sheriff Jenkins turned over illegal alien Francisco Guardo Rios to the Department of Homeland Security, the ACLU sued Sheriff Jenkins, claiming he violated Rios's 4th and 14th Amendment.
The lawsuit was dismissed by senior federal judge Glenn Conrad for its lack of merit.
The defense statement in his trial noted that Sheriff Jenkins was well known for border security advocate, also working closely with border sheriffs and taking a strong public stance against the Biden administration's open border policies.
But what I really think got Sheriff Jenkins targeted was the fact that he and two other sheriffs got together to investigate Hunter Biden's laptop.
Now, you will recall that 51 former and current U.S. intelligence officials co-signed a letter claiming falsely that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation.
It wasn't.
I believe this is why they drew a target on the sheriff's back.
The use of nullification and the deputization of law-abiding gun owners are major tools that sheriffs can use to make gun control and other Democrat overreach untenable.
Because Sheriff Jenkins knew how to push back against this tyranny at the local level, he became a target of the Biden regime, desperate to scare away other sheriffs from deputizing citizens to defend the Constitution.
So they put Sheriff Jenkins through this cruel and vicious process in which he was bled dry and suffered tremendous indignities from the federal government.
He now stands vindicated because President Trump's pardon.
Sheriff Jenkins will return to Virginia a hero, and sheriffs throughout the country will be emboldened and empowered to fight Democrat tyranny in this example.
Sheriff Jenkins himself is going to join us here in the Stone Zone in just a bit, but let me say a bit more about him.
He became a deputy sheriff at age 18, attended community college, and worked through the ranks for 22 years.
And in 2012, he became sheriff for three terms in his home county of Culpeper.
After 34 years of service, he received numerous awards for life-saving valor, creating the country's first county's first SWAT team, and obtained national accreditation status for his office in 2019, only the fourth sheriff in Virginia history to do so.
He was known as a strong sheriff, a strong administrator, and a working sheriff, often even out on the streets backing up deputies as necessary.
One example of this is the December 2021 police pursuit of an active shooter traveling three counties, firing an AK-47 at police and citizens.
And it was stopped when Sheriff Jenkins exchanged fire with 14, pardon me, 19 rounds, killing the suspect before he could reach the target of killing his own family.
I stress to you again: President Donald Trump acted in an extraordinary act of both mercy and justice by pardoning the sheriff.
It is extraordinary that the president will take a beating for this as the fake news media continues to claim that the sheriff's prosecution was legitimate.
Sheriff Jenkins, in fact, did nothing wrong.
He was the setup in an elaborate sting by the FBI.
Sheriff Jenkins was a leader among sheriffs on issues like border security, the Second Amendment, standing up to the drug cartel.
He also had a target on his back, as I say, because he was a staunch and loyal supporter of President Trump.
It is amazing to me what they have put this man through.
And he will join us shortly to talk about the enormous relief that he felt when the president called him on Memorial Day Eve to tell him that he would get a full and unconditional pardon.
In the meantime, Social Security has now removed 12.3 million individuals who were listed as 120 years old or older, according to the U.S. Department of Government Efficiency, also known as Doge.
Social Security Scrub 00:15:01
That's Elon Musk's charge.
The discrepancies in the Social Security figures and the alarming ages of some of the individuals listed have garnered national attention over the last several weeks.
As a result, in March, DeGoge began to update American people on the massive cleanup begun by Social Security.
In a March 18th update, Doge, that's the Department of Government Efficiency, said Social Security had marked 3.2 million Social Security number holders who were aged 120 years or older as deceased, warning that there was still far more work to be done.
Over one month later, on April 24th, Doge provided another update, revealing that a stunning 11 million individuals listed as age 120 were now additionally marked as deceased.
This is evidence that President Donald Trump, working with Elon Musk, is making good on their promise to uncover waste, fraud, and corruption in our federal government.
Now, we know that some complex cases still remain, such as individuals with two different birth dates that are on file, but those have yet to be investigated.
Now, this update coincides with other red flags issued by Elon Musk and Doge, as he made waves back in March, claiming that 2.1 million non-citizens, that is people who are ineligible to receive Social Security, were regularly getting checks.
I don't know what others think, but I'm a fan of Elon Musk, not only because he's helped ferret out these outrageous waste and fraud against the American taxpayers, but also because by buying Twitter and turning it into X, at the same time, he gave me my voice back.
You can follow me on X at Roger J. Stone Jr., Roger J. StoneJR.
I always keep you up to date on what we're doing here on the Red Apple audio networks.
And we'll be back with a little more politics.
And then Sheriff Jenkins himself joins us, Scott Jenkins, pardoned in an act that saved his life only yesterday.
We'll be right back.
This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
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Across every state and every community, America's rural hospitals are the first line of defense, protecting our families, neighbors, and loved ones.
No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
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But now, some in Congress are threatening access to care.
Tell Congress, protect patient care to keep America strong.
Don't cut rule health care.
This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
They went after a guy named Roger Stone who's sitting in the office.
And I'll say this in front of Roger.
He's no baby.
And right now he's cleaner than anybody in this place.
No, as they treated him very unfairly.
Now, get him a zone.
It's the stone zone.
Here's Roger Stone.
We're back in the Stone Zone.
President Donald Trump vowed Saturday to refocus our military on protecting U.S. borders during his graduation speech at the United States Military Academy.
How refreshing to have a president who appreciates the sacrifices of our great military.
The president said, you are winners, every single one of you.
The commander-in-chief told 1,002 members of the graduating class of cadets.
You are becoming second lieutenants in the Army.
You are the first West Point graduates of the new golden age of America.
President was wearing his signature red, Make America Great Cap, when he addressed the failed foreign policy of prior administrations.
For at least two decades, political leaders from both parties have dragged our military into missions they were never meant to be in, missions they were never expected to win.
People would say, why are we doing this?
Why are we wasting our time, money, and souls in some cases?
They sent our warriors on nation-building crusades to nations that wanted nothing to do with us, led by leaders who didn't have a clue in distant lands while abusing our soldiers with absurd ideological experiments.
All of that now under Donald Trump is emptied.
They've subjected the armed forces to all manners of social projects and political causes while leaving our borders undefended and depleting our arsenals to fight for other countries.
But under the Trump administration, I do believe those days are over.
We're getting rid of the distractions and focusing our military on its core mission, which should be crushing America's adversaries, killing America's enemies, and defending our great American flag.
The job of the U.S. Armed Forces is not to host drag shows or to transform foreign cultures or to spread democracy to everybody around the world at the point of a gun.
The military's job is to dominate any foe, annihilate any threat to America anywhere, anytime, any place, but only when we are first engaged.
The days of endless foreign war with our inherent national interests are not clear, are over under Donald Trump.
The neocons, who've dominated both major parties for decades and their efforts to rush America headlong into war, are done under this president.
A big part of the job, of course, is for America to be respected again.
And now we have a president who respects our military.
The president made it very clear that his preference is always peace and seeking partnership, even with countries with whom our differences can be very, very profound.
Yes, the president said, I want you to fight, but I'd rather just have them fold.
And that's happening.
So the president is on a peace mission.
He was elected as a peace candidate.
When we come back, former Culpeper, Virginia County Sheriff Scott Jenkins, neutrally pardoned from a witch hunt laid on him by the Biden Justice Department, joins us in the Stone Zone.
This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
They went after a guy named Roger Stone who's sitting in the office.
And I'll say this in front of Roger.
He's no baby.
And right now he's cleaner than anybody in this place.
No, they treated him very unfairly.
Now, give him a zone.
It's the stone zone.
Here's Roger Stone.
And we're back in the Stone Zone.
On Memorial Day, President Donald Trump announced the full and unconditional pardon of former Culpeper County, Virginia Sheriff Scott Jenkins.
In my opinion, the political prosecution of Sheriff Jenkins was among the most egregious attacks on law enforcement by the Biden administration.
Jenkins was prosecuted for taking alleged bribes to deputize several men after an elaborate FBI sting campaign, and he was sentenced to 10 years in prison after being convicted in a Soviet-style show trial.
The sheriff was scheduled to turn himself in this morning to federal prison where he would have been in the general population with murderers and drug dealers and worse.
And I think the president recognized that not only was Scott Jenkins an innocent man, but his life was truly in danger.
Joining us now, former Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins himself.
Hello, sir.
Thank you for having me.
I'm very, very happy for you and your family.
I've been through this same exact experience, as you know, and I can't even begin to describe the wave of relief the president said online, Sheriff Scott Jenkins and his wife, Patricia, and their family been dragged through hell by corrupt and weaponized Biden DOJ.
In fact, during his trial, when Sheriff Jenkins tried to offer exculpatory evidence to defend himself, the Biden judge, Robert Ballou, refused to allow it, shut him down, and then went on a tie rid.
So, Sheriff Jenkins, first of all, congratulations and God bless you and your family.
What evidence did the judge refuse to allow you to present in your own defense?
Well, there were so many things that we weren't allowed to even speak of if I testified directly, let alone to call certain witnesses.
For example, if you are attacking me and charging me for things related to an auxiliary deputy program, which is a volunteer deputy program, many sheriffs have those across the country, then you would think I'd be able to call other, many other maybe, auxiliary deputies to counter what's being alleged.
We couldn't call any of them.
The fact that these alleged bribes and things were nothing more than campaign contributions.
And when this informant, this setup that they made where this individual came to me and said, well, you know, some of them give you cash instead of a check because they're, you know, generally always checks.
And I said, you know, I don't care.
It gets, you know, it goes through the treasurer and deposit it, so on.
Well, you know, that cash donations that they thought was so horrible that I'd accepted and actually they handed to me, which was all a setup.
It was there in a gun safe in my home with the other checks and things ready for the next campaign finance report to be turned in with the treasurer and so forth.
When they approached me on that day that they, I sat down for two hours with no lawyer, answered all the questions, never lied.
They never charged me with a lie or anything.
But during that time, they sat with a search warrant in hand from my home, and they would not go serve the search warrant because they knew when I said, Well, just go out there now.
All the money's there.
I haven't used any of it for myself.
It's there waiting to be turned in as normal.
And, of course, there were a number of other things I can go into, but not being able to call, you know, things like that to highlight that and say, Look, you know, this money has remained there all this time, all these many months until trial.
And it was there until, you know, long after I was sentenced, it remained in the same place, hoping, you know, that we could use that to defend ourselves.
My lawyers tried unsuccessfully to get a number of things into the court to use as our defense.
And, you know, any of those things would be shot down.
The fact that I had so loyally supported President Trump since before he was first president and in his first term so much working with border sheriffs and other issues, we couldn't mention that in the trial.
When I got on the stand to try to defend myself at the end and just tell my side they would not let me even speak of my support of President Trump and the fact I was a conservative, you know, constitutional sheriff and so on.
I actually blurted out a few times mistakenly after being warned by the judge to say, well, you know, this is false.
You're telling the jury that a sheriff can't hire someone who has, for example, been a felon.
That's not right.
Jellyroll is a famous singer right now.
He's currently now an auxiliary deputy up in Michigan or somewhere.
There's celebrities all over who've been sworn into these honorary roles and so on.
And as I started to name some of the ones I had done the same thing with, you know, the judge, you know, every time that we cross a line to give reasonable explanations of why certain things are allowed and why we do things as sheriffs all across the country, we couldn't say it, we couldn't talk about it.
So how on earth can you defend yourself and get a jury to understand the real truth of the authority of a sheriff if you can't speak about those things?
And then that's the whole crux of the point.
I like to just make it simple for people to understand.
A judge, any federal prosecutor, DOJ ladies, all three of them, should only speak true facts to the court.
Never lies, never false information.
If they do it once, what else would they do?
Well, when they sentenced me, I used this one good example of a judge.
And I'm not angry at the judge.
I'm sure he's a fine man, but the man sat there and said three demonstrably false things about a sheriff or myself in his sentencing of me.
He's putting me in prison.
And in his speech, he says that I hired unqualified, unvetted people and did not train them as required as auxiliary deputies.
And all three of those things are absolutely false and they're provable.
Never was anyone in 12 years of me being sheriff, and we can prove it as a fact.
Every person that took an oath and became a deputy or auxiliary deputy, the fact is a Virginia sheriff is not required to have any training provided for them if they want to accept that responsibility and liability.
They are not required to be anything other than a U.S. citizen, have a high school diploma or equivalent, 18 years old.
And, you know, they don't have to have this laundry list of qualifications that maybe an FBI agent or a state trooper or other police officers do.
Sheriffs have wide latitude in Virginia and across the country.
I mean, it's the oldest law enforcement.
That's how they swear in posse.
You don't go out suddenly as a sheriff when you're trying to quell a riot or go after a fugitive and others as sheriffs, and the laws never change.
You don't have to go out and do background checks and all the formalities of a police department 200 years ago.
No, sheriffs were given wide latitude and it never changed.
The code stayed the same.
So when these FBI agents sat down, knocked on my door and started questioning the very first day, they were furious because I didn't laugh at them.
I was very respectful.
I mean, it was emotional to have, you know, read your rights or whatever.
Wayne's Call 00:06:31
You know, you're being questioned, and I'm saying, guys, you don't know what you're talking about.
You're thinking about FBI or state police or others.
The sheriff's not required to do any of this stuff.
I'm not bound by any of those things.
Well, they stuck to it from that day.
And when I tried to have an expert say, well, no, the law, the Constitution of Virginia says this for sheriffs.
This doesn't relate.
This is police chiefs and others.
It's completely separate law requirements.
They had it in.
their minds and they put it in the mind of the juries and ultimately even a judge.
They convinced them and overruled everything we tried to fight it with to say, you people are insane.
You are lying to the court.
You are saying that a sheriff is required to do X, Y, and Z, and we are not.
They never introduced anything to back up their statements.
They had no, they didn't even introduce a code section, let alone, you know, to have like the Virginia Sheriff's Association lawyer or others come in as experts and say, no, a Virginia sheriff does not have to require this or that of a deputy.
So the whole premise of their case just from that, and they took that and just snowballed it into one thing after another.
And they convinced a jury that I swear, my God, they were not my peers, but, you know, I knew, you know, we went through the launching and it was insane to people that we had there judging me.
But even the judge, I mean, I said to someone yesterday, I said, you know, what we need to do is let's just throw down the gauntlet.
How about those three ladies from DOJ that prosecuted me and that judge?
Let's all stand before the court.
And I will gamble the 10 years going to prison if they'll do the same.
And let's challenge what that judge said about me on my sentencing date.
If he said one factual thing wrong to the world, then shouldn't it all be in question?
And he said three things about a sheriff and what I did that were absolutely false.
And no one even looks at it.
No one even thinks about it.
And if that's allowed to stand, what other things have they done?
And that's what they did in the whole damn case.
That money they accused me of taking, it was there.
It remained there all those many months and was never like they said it was.
And I'm sorry, I'll stop and give you a moment.
I'm sorry I get on a roll.
No, no, no.
I appreciate it.
You finally get a chance to tell your side of things.
I read the mainstream media stories, and they're all slanderous.
They all imply that you somehow took this money and put it in your pocket when these were perfectly legal campaign contributions.
Look, you were convicted on a laundry list of trumped-up charges, including one count of conspiracy, counts of honest services fraud, and seven counts of bribery concerning programs that receive federal funds.
These fake charges remind me of the dozens of phony felonies the Democrats charged President Trump with, the charges that they charged General Flynn with, the charges they came after me with.
And I've experienced what you're talking about.
The jury for a woman in my case said during jury selection that she had never heard of me, didn't know who I was, was unfamiliar with my case.
Turned out that she'd been attacking me by name for 19 months prior to her being selected as a juror in my case.
She'd been attacking me by name regarding the very case in which she was selected as a juror, but she kept that on a private setting on both Twitter and Facebook so it could not be detected.
And the judge ruled that that was not evidence of bias and refused to vacate my conviction.
It's interesting that one of the jurors in my case said to the Washington Post afterwards that the judge never came to the jury room.
Why would you just volunteer that?
Unless, of course, the judge did illegally come to the jury room when the jury got stuck on one count.
So I've seen this Soviet-style witch hunt up front.
Sheriff, I guess my most important question is, which of your actions do you think got you targeted?
Was it your disagreements with Governor Northam over gun control and the Second Amendment rights guaranteed by our Constitution?
Was it your objection to some of the draconian measures pertaining to COVID-19?
Or was it your strong stance against illegal and dangerous immigrants in your county?
Or lastly, is it possible the fact that you and two other sheriffs talked about investigating Hunter Biden's laptop?
Why did they single you out?
Why, in your opinion, were you targeted?
I found that the first of those things you mentioned from the gun stance down to me doubling down in a press conference with Chip Roy and border sheriffs in fall of 22, talking about the same thing.
If Congress did a gun ban, I was going to do the same thing with other sheriffs and nullify their law.
I think all of that was important.
And I didn't even know some of the connections with Governor Northam when he threatened me publicly to come after me later.
I didn't know there's a background there with Richmond law firms and lawyers like James Comey.
It's a whole other story.
But, you know, I don't know any of those things.
I do know for certain, though, I had a conversation in the end of 22 when I was already in their eye.
They had put a phone tap, a legal wiretap from a judge on my phone.
And unbeknownst to me, I had a call with Wayne Ivey, a sheriff in Brevard, Florida, along with another Maryland sheriff.
We had all been part of the original seven sheriffs under Trump.
We've supported him.
And when he was out of office, we formed Protect America Now, a PAC to continue the fight.
And so that group of us, we were close.
And Wayne had made a call and had several of us on the call.
And in that call, Wayne said, look, I have a former U.S. attorney, a state attorney general, and some others that want us to fly us into a secure place.
And we're going to view the Hunter Biden laptop, see the crimes that are on it, and I'll return back to our home states and obtain charges against Hunter.
From there, once he's locked down, the rest of the things against the rest of the family would be taken over by these two attorneys and pursued further.
And, you know, Wayne said, look, if I do this by myself, I'm going to die.
My brakes will be cut or something mysterious.
But if a half dozen of us can just join together, we'll probably survive and make it happen.
And so we all said we're in.
And, you know, I think that's the key when the most powerful man in the world, his son, you're coming after him.
I'm a father.
Valiant Fathers' Alliance 00:06:19
I understand.
You'd probably do anything to save your child, even something like that.
And you can't tell me that a conversation like that, the lowliest FBI agent in existence, if he heard that on a wiretap, he is obligated to run that up the ladder.
And I know darn well that call had to come to the ear of the AG and in turn, whoever else.
Of course, now, I'm not trying to be mean, but we apparently had a zombie in the office, and we had other people unknown to us, unelected, being the president for a while now.
And I wouldn't doubt that Hunter Biden didn't even hear that call of me and may have been one of the ones saying to whoever over at DOJ, hey, help me.
Come, you know, get rid of this guy.
Who knows what was said?
We'll never know.
But I know, you know, God willing, God put President Trump in there.
I know that.
You know, he's had a hand in our country from the founding.
And God bless President Trump.
He's put people like Pam Bondi and Dan Bongino and Kash Patel in.
And I think they're good.
Ed Martin, my God, and that is that, talk about irony to have a guy who's not approved for the DC job and end up where he's at.
I mean, that's a blessing itself to have him handing pardons and other things.
I truly believe they're going to clean up this mess.
All right, just tuning in.
We're talking to Sheriff Scott Jenkins.
He was pardoned yesterday by President Donald Trump.
You're in the stone zone, and we'll be right back with more of the sheriff.
This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
They went after a guy named Roger Stone, who's sitting in the office.
And I'll say this in front of Roger.
He's no baby.
And right now, he's cleaner than anybody in this place.
Now, they treated him very unfairly.
Now, get in the zone.
It's the stone zone.
Here's Roger Stone.
Welcome back in the Stone Zone.
We're talking to Sheriff Scott Jenkins.
He was pardoned yesterday, Memorial Day, by President Donald Trump of trumped up charges.
The sheriff has served valiantly.
There's a famous story about him in December of 2021 when the police were in pursuit of an active shooter who traveled across three counties firing an AK-47 at both the police and citizens.
And he was stopped only when Sheriff Jenkins exchanged fire with 19 rounds, killing that suspect before he could reach his target of killing his own family.
Give you some idea what a courageous and valiant man is joining us here today.
What they do, you experience this, Sheriff Jenkins, is they try to destroy you financially so you lose the resources to fight.
You sold your home and spent everything you had for your legal defense.
You had nothing left to fight an appeal with.
You and your brothers have served honorably for many years in law enforcement.
You're the proud parent of two teenagers, and you care for your elderly parents.
I think this was an extraordinary act of both mercy and justice by President Donald Trump.
But I must tell you, I was happy to join those, including General Flynn and Ed Martin, in urging the president to extend clemency in your case.
But the support you had from sheriffs across the country, the number of sheriffs who contacted me to bring my attention to your case and to tell me that you had been wrong.
You were an honest, decent man, as well as a courageous law enforcement officer.
And to urge me to get involved was really heartening.
Your colleagues, Sheriff, hold you in the highest possible regard, and you should know that.
Well, thank you, sir.
I appreciate hearing that.
You kind of go into a hole when you're going through this and don't know what people are communicating, but I appreciate that.
And I'll never be able to thank all of you enough.
Thank you for mentioning General Flynn.
I met him some years ago, and well, my God, his storied life is amazing.
And you, sir, I hope we get to meet.
All of you who have put a kind word in and did the work you did to communicate with the White House and others to help, I'm forever indebted.
I just want to be left alone now and rest and my family heal.
But I am 100%.
If there's something I can ever do for my country or for the president and what needs to be done for his mission, I am there 100%.
I'm just thankful we got Ed Martin in there.
They have, you know, a pardon czar as well.
I've never met Ms. Johnson, but I said the other day to my wife, I said, well, I don't know.
You know, I'm done with law enforcement.
I guess I'm out of it, but I could even volunteer and go help if they need help screening or looking at applicants or something to help people who've been wrongly treated through the system.
But I'm just forever grateful.
Well, it's yet another example of the power of prayer because I can tell you there were literally thousands of people praying for you and your family through this entire ordeal.
Prayer sustained me and my family when they tried to frame me because I refused to testify falsely against President Donald Trump.
That's the entire reason for their charges against me.
After all, you can't lie under oath about Russian collusion that never actually happened, can you?
So I have been in your shoes, my friend, and the Lord heard those prayers, which is why the president became well aware and acquainted with your case and the fact that you had also, just as they tried to do to him, just as they tried to do to General Flynn, just like they successfully did to Paul Manafort, just like they tried to do to me, that you were framed for strictly political reasons.
I want to thank you for joining us today in the Stone Zone.
God bless you and your family.
Please give them my best regards.
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May your family heal.
God bless you, my friend.
And thanks, everybody, for joining us here in the Stone Zone.
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