Tyler Nixon, JFK researcher and Nixon relative, dismantles Oliver Stone’s JFK while exposing Lyndon B. Johnson’s alleged assassination cover-up—tying him to Bobby Baker’s corruption, Madeleine Brown’s $100K payments, and Geraldo Rivera’s buried interview. He slams congressional hearings for fixating on CE 399 over the ARRB’s hidden records, including Carlos Marcello’s jailhouse confession and Santo Traficante’s mob ties, while noting Secret Service failures: Emery Roberts’ freeze order, Connally’s Dealey Plaza insistence, and Johnson’s preemptive duck. The episode reveals how the CIA may have framed the mob to obscure deeper conspiracies, leaving JFK’s death a labyrinth of unanswered questions. [Automatically generated summary]
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Joining me now is attorney and one of the most respected JFK researchers in the country.
He's also a distant relative to President Richard Nixon.
Attorney Tyler Nixon joins us in the Stone Zone now.
Roger, it's great to be in the Stone Zone again.
I hope that your former legal team intern and our friend Colorado native Adam Beale arranged for Congresswoman Boebert to accidentally, supposedly, mention your book, even though it was Oliver Stone obviously testifying.
Well, you can't buy publicity like that.
It was an honest mistake.
And as I point out, even though I don't agree with Oliver Stone on much, he thinks Fidel Castro was a heck of a guy.
Don't agree with that.
And his alternative history of the United States is ludicrous.
But on this issue, we're not that far apart.
He believes that Johnson, along with the FBI, were complicit in the cover-up of Kennedy's murder, where I believe that Johnson planned and orchestrated the murder.
And he had the most acute motive.
He was under investigation in the Bobby Baker scandal and the Billy Salestes scandal.
Those were two of the biggest corruption scandals of the 1960s.
Bobby Baker was the secretary of the Senate.
Johnson's right-hand man, essentially his bagman.
No major appropriation, particularly defense appropriations, passed the Senate without a payoff to Lyndon Baines Johnson.
And Billy Salestis was a flamboyant Texas wheeler dealer.
He was getting multi-million dollar agricultural contracts arranged for him by Lyndon Johnson, but he was kicking back to Johnson when he was both a senator and vice president.
What's amazing is that Robert Caro, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author, produces a three-volume biography of Johnson for which he wins the Pulitzer Prize for each volume.
Yet there's no mention of Billy Salestis.
He doesn't come up at all.
I also want to ask you about this, Tyler, particularly.
Madeleine Brown, who was Lyndon Johnson's mistress.
If you doubt that, she bore him a son, Stephen Brown.
You can go online right now and look up a photograph of Stephen Brown because he's a spitten image of his daddy, LBJ.
He would also die under mysterious circumstances.
Madeline Brown would tell the world that both the night before, when she spent the night with Lyndon Johnson in a Fort Worth hotel and the morning before Johnson departed, that she told him that she that after the November 22nd day was out, he would never have to put up with those Kennedys again.
Let's listen to Madeline Brown.
Went to cursing.
He used foul language all the time.
And he said, those Kennedys, he repeated, they will never embarrass me again.
That's no threat.
That's a promise.
And I'd like the entire world to know how I personally feel is the fact Lyndon Johnson knew about the assassination and was a part of it.
Now, the amazing thing is Geraldo Rivera interviewed Madeline Brown for that startling revelation.
Yet when I met Geraldo for the first time in a green room at Fox, I asked him about it.
He said he didn't know who Madeline Brown was and he had no memory of it.
If you look on YouTube, you can find the interview.
A number of individuals have, including Alex Jones, have interviewed her.
What do you make of that, Tyler?
Well, first of all, Geraldo obviously has done amazing work in terms of the research into the assassination, so he does deserve credit, even if he can't remember it.
He was the first to televise the Zapruder film via Robert Groden on his show in 1975.
But Madeline Brown is extremely credible.
She is, and she absolutely has documentation or had documentation.
She's obviously passed away of payments from Lyndon Johnson through his attorneys, you know, maintenance payments in a sense for the son she bore him.
And she absolutely had no motive and no real purpose behind coming out with this story or let's just say if she was a fraud for making up such a story.
She was able to back it up.
She knew Lyndon Johnson very, very personally, and she professed her love for him even after the fact of his being the prime mover behind the assassination of the president.
So she, again, is highly credible, has a great amount of detail.
And there's no one, and frankly, no one's come out to refute anything she said or disavow or somehow debunk her involvement and relationship with Johnson for many years.
What's amazing, of course, is the Warren Commission doesn't bother to interview her.
Nobody bothers to interview her.
And the mainstream media ignores her highly credible account.
And again, I say look at the photo of her son, Stephen Brown, and you can see he looks exactly like his daddy, Lyndon Baines Johnson.
Overall, Tyler, what did you think of yesterday's hearing?
Well, you know, I was disappointed, to be honest.
First of all, other than your mention of Oliver being an LBJ, LBJ was complicit after the fact rather than the central figure in a pinwheel conspiracy.
The other two witnesses, I mean, the CIA did it to the exclusion of Johnson primarily in that camp.
And Morley even made a comment which would indicate that he thinks Johnson was totally blameless.
But beyond that, I felt Stone was the most earnest of the witnesses and certainly, I think, the most honest as well.
When asked whether he saw parallels between the assassination of President Kennedy and the attempt on President Trump, he answered yes, even though the other two witnesses said they didn't.
But here's the thing.
I don't think they were well prepared.
I think these, you know, they were sort of complacent.
I think they are very knowledgeable, and I give them immense credit, Jim DiEugenio, as well as Morley and, of course, Oliver Stone, for what they've done to advance the case and advance the truth.
But I feel like they needed to grasp the fact that this hearing was about the disclosure and the resistance to disclosure and the obstacles to disclosure and what more could be done to bring out these records and to bring the truth to the public.
And I think they let this hearing devolve into a novice QA about specific minutiae in the case, like CE 399, the magic bullet, or just all sorts of narrow questions that were evidentiary questions that I think they should have kept bringing the focus back.
And I think the best comment or the best suggestion at the end, which really should have been, frankly, the first panel to testify, assuming there's going to be more, came from Jim DiEugenio, who said that the committee needs to bring all the ARRB staffers or anyone from that organization who's willing to testify, still alive, such as Douglas Horn,
who was obviously a guest of your show a few weeks back and is just absolutely a compendium of knowledge, not only of the actual evidence, the substantive evidence, but of the fact of the cover-up, the attempts to cover up and withhold information because the ARRB went through all sorts of hoops in trying to extract.
They never really did get full disclosure.
I believe their commission, as you would have, expired before they were able to complete getting the documents they wanted, as our friend Larry Schnapp pointed out in your show recently.
So I think the hearing was and sort of descended into almost a bit of a, it was too casual, I think.
And the problem, and this is the problem that when you have six decades pass with an event like that, there's no one left in the government in Congress or anywhere who's an actual subject matter expert enough to ask incisive and relevant questions on the topic of the hearing, not just on, again, like novice, oh, you know, tell us about Lee Harvey Oswald.
Is this not?
I mean, this is these are the minutiae.
That's not what the hearing was supposed to be about.
So I think it was a missed opportunity, but I sincerely hope that they, you know, this is intended to be just a start.
For our listeners, the AARB is the Assassination's Record Review Board, which was set up by the government in the 90s.
And they did some very excellent work, but they were also stonewalled by a number of agencies of government.
In the late 70s, the House Select Committee on Assassinations was formed to examine and re-examine the assassination of John Kennedy, Dr. King, and Robert Kennedy.
Interestingly enough, because most of the staffers of that committee were experts in organized crime, that was their focus.
And they conducted an exhaustive investigation.
But, Tyler, they were completely stonewalled by the CIA, who would provide no records and provide no one to testify on any question.
Not surprisingly.
I was going to say it's worse than that.
I mean, the assigned sort of CIA liaison for the committee who led them by their noses was George Joanitis, who was involved in Operation 40 and was neck deep in the milieu of the JFK assassination.
And all of whose records are among those not included in these disclosures.
There is a large archive of these documents, but they are among the documents that are missing.
The point, of course, is that the committee reached a formal conclusion in their final report that organized crime played a significant role in the murder of Kennedy.
Yet none of the documents released by the National Archives in the recent disclosures address the role of organized crime at all.
Missing, for example, are at a minimum transcripts, if not the actual audios of Carlos Marcelo, the gangster who ran the mob in both Texas and Louisiana, who was recorded in his jail cell surreptitiously by the government, taking credit for Kennedy's assassination.
Where's that audio?
Or at a minimum, where's the transcript of that audio?
Not included.
In fact, there have been no documents released that indicate a role of organized crime, even though the House committee reached that correct conclusion.
The motive of the mob is very clear.
Sam Giancana and the mob chieftains, including Carlos Marcelo and Santo Traficante, promised $1 million, that's 1959, to John Kennedy's presidential campaign and to twist arms for JFK in Illinois and Texas,
and even earlier that during the West Virginia primary, in return for a commitment that the deportation proceedings that the Eisenhower administration had undertaken to deport Marcelo and Traficante would be dropped.
Well, John Kennedy was elected.
Robert Kennedy became Attorney General.
Joseph P. Kennedy, his father, Ambassador Kennedy, was felled by a debilitating stroke.
Robert Kennedy went after Marcelo and Traficante, going so far as to literally kidnap Marcelo when he showed up for his immigration hearing check-in once a week and dropping him in Guatemala wearing nothing but a Gucci shoes and a Brioni suit.
So the mob's motive is very clear.
They will double cost by the Kennedys, and there is no question in my mind that they are one of the factors here.
Johnson, of course, was on the pad for Carlos Masello through a man named Jack Haufer.
He was taking payments to conceal the mob's illegal gambling dens in San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas.
Three days after Johnson was elected, Jack Halfer got a presidential pardon on some other minor crime in which he had been convicted.
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You're listening to the Stone Zone here on the Red Apple Audio Networks, and you'll learn things you never heard about the murder of President John F. Kennedy.
We're talking to Tyler Nixon, attorney at law, one of the most respected members of the JFK researcher community.
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We're talking to Tyler Nixon, attorney at law, and one of the country's leading JFK assassination experts.
There are a number of anomalies that day in Dallas.
Normally, according to the manual of the Secret Service, there were to be six motorcycle officers, three abreast on either side of the presidential limousine.
It was that way in Chicago and in Miami, where Kennedy visited before going to Dallas.
In this case, there was one lone officer on a motorcycle riding directly behind the presidential limousine.
Normally, between the presidential limousine and the vice presidential limousine, there would be only one car that would be full of Secret Service agents, most of them with long rifles, looking in the windows of the taller buildings.
It was unusual for the presidential motorcade to go through Dealey Plaza anyway.
JFK was going from two sites outside the city, from the Dallas-Fort Worth airport to the merchandise mark, neither one of which is in the city limits of Dallas.
It was John Connolly, the governor of Texas, who insisted on the motorcade going through Dealey Plaza, where the car was required to come to a full stop.
Another violation of the Secret Service regulations regarding the transportation of the president.
Tyler, as you know, one of the most curious things is shown in a series of still photographs by a photographer named Altjen.
And in this series of still photographs, you see Lyndon Johnson in the vice presidential limousine, which was a Cadillac.
They called it the Queen Mary.
The order of the cars is unusual.
There is Kennedy driving in the Lincoln Continental, followed by a car full of Secret Service agents, followed by a car of the press, and then followed by the automobile Johnson is riding in.
And if you look at the stills, you see in the first one, Lyndon Johnson, Senator Ralph Yarborough, and Ladybird Johnson, both Ladybird and Senator Yarborough smiling.
Johnson has a grim look on his face.
And then in the next still photograph, Johnson has vanished.
He's gone.
Now, Senator Ralph Yarborough writes in his memoirs that prior to the first shot being fired, prior to the first shot being heard, Lyndon Johnson hits the deck and he is on the floor of his limousine talking into a small radio.
Tell us about this.
Well, I just want to touch on one thing real quick, which you mentioned the mafia involvement or potential involvement or being used.
And I think it's interesting that with Joe Anitas leading the House Select Committee on Assassinations down the garden path, I think honestly that the mafia was set up as a sort of stalking horse just for the very purpose of being blamed or being used as a sort of a patsy as an organization to once again throw the trail off the CIA.
So I find that very interesting.
But because there definitely were involvement.
Marcelo had connections to Lee Harvey Oswald, actually, believe it or not.
And I think that there were players, apparently John Roselli, according to CIA pilot Tosh Plumley, was being flown in to supposedly stop the plot, but it was too late and couldn't do it in Dallas.
So, you know, I think they involved these guys, but they had no operational control.
And it was for the purpose of doing exactly what they did, which was to, you know, create this fake conclusion that the mafia was behind it, not the CIA.
As to the Secret Service and the, and yes, I mean, there's no question that the Secret Service was complicit and Lyndon Johnson was, you know, ducking down and even made up a big story about Rufus Youngblood leaping over the seat and throwing himself on Johnson.
And Rufus Youngblood basically told everyone that that's a bunch of BS and he actually sort of disavowed it privately.
He didn't want to contradict Johnson because he was probably Johnson's main man.
And Johnson sealed that day by giving him those accolades and elevating him within the Secret Service.
But interestingly, on that subject, the shift leader in the Queen Mary behind President Kennedy's limousine, which was left like a sitting duck in Dealey Plaza, Emery Roberts, as soon as the shooting began, ordered the agents on the Queen Mary behind the president's limousine to freeze and not to move.
And thus, you know, nothing was done to try to protect the president while Bill Greer, the driver, brought the limousine practically to a halt.
So, and Emery Roberts went on to become the appointment secretary to Lyndon Johnson in the White House.
An unusual role for a Secret Service agent, let's just say.
All right, we have to wrap it right there.
I want to thank our guest, Tyler Nixon.
Stay tuned to the Stone Zone.
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