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March 21, 2025 - The StoneZONE - Roger Stone
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The Stone Zone | 03-20-25

Owen Schroer recounts SWATing attacks on conservative media—armed raids at his home based on false reports, fake pizza deliveries tied to Jamie White’s suspicious murder—and demands federal action, labeling it "Democrat Party terrorism." Roger Stone joins to debunk JFK assassination theories, citing Nixon’s CIA obstruction and missing records like McCone’s call with LBJ. Callers link SWATing to broader threats, from Trump assassination plots to campus censorship, as Stone warns young conservatives to reject violence while exposing deep-state cover-ups. The episode ties harassment, conspiracy, and institutional betrayal into a pattern of escalating political warfare. [Automatically generated summary]

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New Phenomenon of Swatting 00:08:15
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There is a new phenomena happening across the country.
It's called SWAT.
This is where somebody phones in a false report to police that there's some kind of violence going down at the home of an individual.
And of course, the police respond with a full SWAT contingent.
It is an extraordinarily dangerous and I would have to say, scary phenomena.
InfoWars host Owen Schroer was swatted at his house just the night before last.
Police officers were given a false report that Schroyer had shot someone in his home.
Schroer was handcuffed and forced to crawl on the ground while officers searched his residence.
On Friday, FBI Director Kash Patel spoke out against the trend of conservative commentators having false police reports filed on them in order to send police to their homes.
I want to address the alarming rise in swatting incidents targeting media figures, Patel said on Twitter.
The FBI is aware of this dangerous trend, and my team and I are already taking action to investigate and hold those responsible parties accountable.
This isn't about politics.
Weaponizing law enforcement against any American is not only morally reprehensible, but it also endangers lives, including those of our law enforcement officers.
This will not be tolerated, the FBI director said.
We are fully committed to working with local law enforcement to crack down on these incidents.
More updates to come.
Joining us now is the target of a swatting.
Owen Schroer, who is a popular host on InfoWars, joins us in the Stone Zone now.
Owen, welcome to the zone.
Great to be here with you, Roger.
You're one of the few people out there that unfortunately knows what it's like to have a guns-drawn raid at your house pointing weapons at you for a political reason.
An innocent man had to go through it.
So I know you understand what it's like, and it's always to be good talking to you, old friend.
Well, it's terrifying.
As you say, I feel like I've been swatted.
29 heavily armed FBI agents in full SWAT gear wearing night goggles storming my home at 6 o'clock in the morning when they could simply have called my attorney.
This was a first-time non-violent offense, but, well, CNN just happened to be in tow.
Yes, it was terrifying.
I want to talk about what happened to you so people can understand how dangerous and how terrifying this trend is.
You are not the only one, of course.
Influencers such as Gunther Eagleman, Cat Turd, Sean Farash, the popular radio host Joe Paggs, as well as the reporter Nick Sortar, Tim Boole, has been infamously swatted at least 15 times.
So tell us what happened to you, Owen.
Well, at about 11 p.m., two nights ago, I'm sitting at home.
I'd just gotten home from the gym.
I was about to sit down for dinner.
What was a seemingly routine night for me when all of the sudden I noticed a bunch of lights flashing inside of my windows.
And just so people can kind of get a better understanding, I have a pretty big window on the front of my house.
It's a two-story window in my stairway foyer.
And so it's pretty clear to see from the living room whatever's going on outside.
And so I noticed these flashing lights.
I didn't think too much of it.
I thought maybe there was a car or a truck driving by or something.
And then they continued.
So I stepped up to the window, looked outside, and saw probably eight or so police officers, the flashlights attached to their rifles being pointed at me.
Now, I was anticipating that this might happen.
So I kind of prepared myself mentally, physically with making sure my security cameras were set up to capture it, everything else.
So when I looked out the window, I kind of saw them gestured like this for me.
And they said, come out with your hands up.
So immediately I knew what was happening, that it was a false police report swatting.
I grabbed my phone to get ready to record it on my phone, opened the door, told them I was recording and that it was a false police report, but they had to go through their process.
In which case, from my perspective during this incident, I'm basically blinded.
There's probably five or six police officers' guns with flashlights shining right in my face.
So at this point, I can't really see anything.
All I can do is hear what they're shouting at me, which it was tough to hear.
And I was getting conflicting messages, but tried my best to just obey whatever they were saying.
Eventually, I had to strip down to my shorts and then walk backwards and crawl on the ground to the police officers on my stomach.
And then they cuffed me and detained me, at which point they then moved in the SWAT team to my house to clear the house.
Of course, it didn't take too long after they cuffed me when I was speaking to them saying it was a false report.
One of the officers said, hey, I think he's right.
I recognize him.
And at that point, I think they realized what was going on as well, but they still had to finish the job.
So that whole process took about 20 minutes.
Obviously, when they went inside, the false police report was that I had shot and killed someone in my house.
Obviously, that was a false report.
They found that out, came out, uncuffed me, talked to me about what was going on, and kind of did some follow-up, getting information for a future investigation to make sure this didn't happen again.
Now, what was crazy, my neighbors, who luckily I'm friendly with and they know me and what I do, they were filming from the alternative angle.
So not my point of view with the cell phone on the ground or my security cameras that were just on my house, but my neighbor on the other side of the street was filming and very eerie footage of not just them pointing the guns at me, but they had laser sights on my head, on my chest, and on my back.
I mean, one slip of the finger, one trigger happy cop, one miscommunication, and that could have been it.
And so it's kind of eerie to see that and to even talk about it or think about it.
And so that was the intense moments.
Now, since then, I've obviously followed up with my attorney for legal action.
I've also had multiple fake pizza deliveries to my house, which I've had to follow up with them to tell them not to deliver as well.
The cops know not to come to a guns-drawn raid on my house.
However, if there's another false police report, they do have to show up as part of protocol, but it won't be near the situation, obviously, that I had to go through the other night.
And I'm also dealing with some other things with this doxing and swatting that I'm going to break some news about tomorrow.
Protecting Rural America 00:02:47
But what I've been told at this time is we have to really raise the alarm.
And that's why I'm so appreciative for you having the story on your show and inviting me on to cover it because we have to make noise.
This is domestic terrorism.
This is Democrat Party terrorism.
And people need to be arrested.
Whoever is responsible for this needs to be arrested.
And a precedent needs to be set.
When you do this, it's going to be treated like attempted murder.
You're going to be classified as a domestic terrorist.
And we need to make sure this never happens again, Roger.
It's happened to, I believe, 16 people in the last two weeks.
And I don't want there to be another person.
I don't want another innocent person to have to have guns and lasers put on them simply for their political beliefs.
And, you know, it's kind of unfortunate now that I'm talking about it with you and thinking about it.
This should have been stopped after you, Roger.
It should have been stopped after you.
But we still have not arrested the deep state.
We still have not gotten the Democrat terrorists back down to earth to heal.
And so unfortunately, we're still dealing with this.
Folks, if you're just tuning in, we're talking to Owen Schroer here in the Stone Zone.
We're going to take a quick commercial break and then we'll be right back with more of this terrifying story.
And, well, what's being done about it?
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Satisfied Statements 00:07:58
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He and I, for well over a year, co-hosted a show called The War Room.
Oh, and this is particularly terrifying in view of the fact that your colleague, Jamie White, who I had the privilege to work with, was brutally murdered only days previous.
This to me makes the entire experience more horrific, more terrifying.
Are you satisfied with the statement by Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino that his team is working on these SWAT incidents?
Well, the simple answer to that is no.
But let me kind of clarify that for you with more context.
I'm not satisfied with any statements.
I'm not going to be satisfied until somebody is arrested.
And I have been pretty critical of this administration, specifically Pam Bondi, more so than Bongino or Patel.
Now, Bongino, I don't even believe, has been in a week.
And Patel hasn't gone on TV every other day talking about truckloads of files.
And he's seen the files, and he's got the files on his desk, and then giving fake files and a binder incident.
So Patel hasn't destroyed his own reputation by his own hand like Pam Bondi has.
So when I say I'm not satisfied with a statement, that's just generally speaking, I'm not going to be satisfied until the perpetrator is arrested.
And for some of the voices out there that are saying I'm being too harsh, too critical, too impatient, I simply respond by saying, you try saying that with a gun pointed at your head.
You try saying that when you've got lasers for sites on your chest, back, and head.
You try saying that.
And maybe you might feel a little differently.
So it's not that I don't have faith in Bongino or Kash Patel.
I have even said, and I believe, that I don't think we can do much better, quite frankly.
I'm not sure you could have a better duo at this point than Patel and Bongino.
But am I satisfied with statements?
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
I'm not going to be satisfied until the FERPs are arrested, and we stop this once and for all by setting a precedent.
Now, it's been pretty clear that the noise and the pressure from these slotting incidents have finally reached D.C.
So the statements are continuing.
And I think they're kind of subtly giving the excuses, which I'm not saying isn't necessary, but they've been coming out recently trying to show Americans what they've been up to at the FBI, arresting violent criminal gang members, illegal immigrants.
They've arrested three of the top 10 most wanted on the FBI list.
So the FBI is putting out a proof of record.
Even the Department of Homeland Security just had a couple of major drug busts, some of the biggest fentanyl and cocaine busts that we've ever seen dealing with the border.
So the DHS and the FBI are putting out proof of work right now, I think, kind of in response to the pressure saying, hey, look, you know, we're working hard on stuff right now.
We're aware of your cases.
Meanwhile, again, not to just target Pam Bondi, it's just the case.
What is Pam Bondi doing?
She's doing Fox News hits and she's clamping down on college protests and she's curious about what's going on in a foreign country.
So it's really just a complete embarrassment to me at the DOJ.
And just for the record, I've met Pam Bondi.
She is a very sweet person.
I think she's a good person.
I don't think she's corrupt.
But this isn't cutesy time.
As Dan Bongino coined the phrase, cutesy time is over.
So I'm not here for cutesy time.
We've got four years, maybe even two, to save this country with Donald Trump.
We don't have time for cutesy time.
We don't have time for hair and makeup.
We need results.
Now, I've talked to a couple different levels of law enforcement.
I do know there is an investigation ongoing.
Problem is the local and state levels just do not have the resources or the capabilities to track this person down right now.
Whoever is doing this is very highly technologically capable, highly technologically advanced.
And wherever it is that they're getting their information from, it's rock solid.
Now, I have some ideas based off of deduction where I think they're getting this information.
But the point is, they do a very good job hiding it and hiding where they're coming from.
So they're going to need Department of Homeland Security.
They're going to need FBI, assets, resources, technology, maybe even NSA, likely to find this person.
But no, I'm not satisfied with statements.
I would like to see a joint press conference to try to maybe strike some fear into who's ever doing this and bring up the ante one more time as they start to hone in on these investigations.
But I'm not going to be satisfied until the perpetrator is arrested, and then I'm going to continue to raise noise, awareness, and pressure until that happens.
Again, coming up, folks, we're going to be taking your calls at 800-848-9222.
If you're just tuning in, we're talking to Owen Schore.
We've got about two minutes left.
Owen, it turns out that your colleague, Jamie White, was on a Ukrainian kill list.
This is particularly chilling.
Do you think that the Ukrainians or someone connected to them could be connected to some of these activities?
Well, the evidence, the crime scene at my friend and colleague and great American, great person, Jamie White's murder scene, leads pretty clearly the police and us, his friends and family, to believe that it was a botched robbery.
That's what it looks like.
There was a history of a robbery there, too.
His car had been broken into before.
He drove a Kia, which is being targeted by these local gangs because they have some way of hacking it and then even stealing it, driving it away.
So he already had an issue with that.
So it looks like he likely saw the car break-in happen, went outside of his apartment to try to stop it, and then in an act of sense of violence, ended up getting shot before the killer ended up getting away.
Now, Jamie's work at InfoWars did land him on a Ukrainian hit list.
And after the series of events that have followed, including pizzas being delivered to people's houses with Jamie's name on it, the pizzas that were delivered to my house came from the Papa Johns that is at the intersection where Jamie White was murdered.
And so your mind can't help but wonder, your mind can't help but gravitate in that direction, even though the circumstantial evidence is pretty overwhelming that it's a botched robbery.
Other things have happened that just make you go to that place and make you wonder if there wasn't something else at hand.
Now, largely, on the larger issue, some people think that this is coming from a foreign country.
I think this is a violent leftist Democrat group.
All right, I'm afraid we have to leave it there.
Owen, we pray for your safety.
Something Else at Hand 00:06:46
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Let's go to Al in Bayside.
Al, welcome into the Stone Zone.
Mr. Stone, extremely entertaining show you have there.
Extremely good.
And I want to say you got the best bunker music going.
It's so lively and vibrant.
And I know the president is a great DJ, but I got to tell you, it's pretty awesome what you got going, the whole combination.
My question to you is, the JFK files just came out, 80,000 pages or so.
And I'd like to know is, do you, first of all, I seem a little bit disappointed.
I figured there'd be a little bit more, even though they haven't gone through everything specifically.
Do you believe that the RFK, MLK, and even the UFO things coming, will they be along that vein?
Or do you think that they need more, you know, in a way, knowing that we know more about it?
Well, I must tell you, my expectations were limited to begin with.
Remember, the deep state has had 62, almost 63 years to cleanse the records.
We have clearly established, just based on the little we've seen so far, that the Central Intelligence Agency knew far more about Lee Harvey Oswald.
But of course, it's also constantly reinforcing the narrative that Oswald was the man who shot Kennedy.
I doubt that for a number of reasons.
First and foremost, because, well, Lee Harvey Oswald had no powder burns, according to the Dallas police examination of him, on his arms or his chests or his hands.
So if he had fired a leaky World War II vintage Italian Army carbine, that would have been absolutely evident.
I'm hopeful that the additional exposure, the additional releases will tell us more.
But I always thought this would be limited and that we might learn more specifically about the CIA's knowledge of the Kennedy assassination.
In the case of Robert Kennedy, it's intriguing.
Sirhan Sirhan, the man who shot Robert Kennedy, is always in front of him at all times, gets off eight shots.
All eight shots are accounted for.
None of them hit Senator Robert Kennedy.
And the coroner, very famous, Dr. Thomas DeGucci, says in his autopsy report that Robert F. Kennedy Sr. was shot at point-blank range in the left rear temple, left rear skull, again at point-blank range.
I mean, that would be the gun right up against his neck.
Therefore, I think it is unlikely that Sirhan Sirhan, the man convicted of killing Robert F. Kennedy, is in fact the criminal in question.
And in the case of Dr. Martin Luther King, the King family, unsatisfied with the government's report, brought a civil suit against the FBI, the Memphis police, the federal government, the Department of Justice, a civil suit that they won.
That means a civil court judge ruled that the government was complicit in Dr. King's murder.
So I'm hopeful that we will learn a great deal more.
Al, thank you for your call.
Joseph in Idaho, you have an intriguing question.
Welcome to the Stone Zone.
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
It's an honor to speak with you today.
My question today is why is it that even after Mr. Nixon was politically assassinated and overthrown with the Watergate scandal, why is it that he never tried further to, in a way, seek retribution by exposing the truth about the full truth about the John F. Kennedy assassination?
Well, we know that in 1969, right after he was sworn in, he insisted on having all of the documents from the Central Intelligence Agency transferred to him for examination, and that agency flatly refused.
They refused an order from the commander-in-chief.
We do have this audio recording, which got very little media coverage until recently, in which President Nixon in the Oval Office with CIA Director Richard Helms confronts him and says, you know, a lot of dirty business is going over there.
Let me put it to you this way.
He said, I know who shot John.
I think the problem here, of course, was that Nixon could never prove it because he could not get the cooperation of the Central Intelligence Agency, which allegedly worked for him.
Now, it's interesting because both John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon came to the House in the same year.
It was 1947.
Despite being political rivals, they were friends.
And there's no question that Kennedy's death both affected Nixon very deeply, but it also, in a strange way, breathed life back into the political career of Richard Nixon, combining that with the murder of Robert Kennedy, the murder of Dr. King, and, of course, the very divisive Vietnam War.
I think Nixon, based on my own conversation with him, when I asked him who killed Kennedy, he said, and I quote, let me put it to you this way, the Warring Commission was the biggest GD hoax in American history.
And when I pressed him, he said, let me say this.
Lyndon and I both wanted to be president, but I wasn't willing to kill for it.
Thank you very much, though, for your call.
Larry in Staten Island, you have a question for the Stone Zone.
Good evening, Roger.
Swatting Incidents Horror 00:05:52
I want to comment on these swatting incidents.
They are horrifically frightening.
I don't have to tell you this.
You know it.
And it's frightening for the victim, and it's extremely frightening for the police.
They're responding, Roger, based on 911 call and information that was given to the radio dispatcher, and they're only following what they're given.
Their tactics are paramount to saving lives, not only the cops, but the victim.
And I hope Kash Patel does something federally with this, because I get a sense.
I get a sense this is something, a phenomenon going on in this country by a certain group to destroy people.
And it's horrible, and it's got to stop.
And Roger, I must add, as a sidebar, I grew up in Red Hook, Brooklyn.
It's gravy.
It's sauce, not gravy.
My father used to say, if you want gravy, go get a jar of Franco-American and put it on your meatloaf and your mesh motors.
I thank you for that.
I think it all depends on where you grew up.
I don't care whether you call it sauce or whether you call it gravy, as long as you're using high-quality San Marzano tomatoes, the important thing is that it's good.
And my mother's recipe is the best.
I agree with you regarding this tendency now, calling for violence yesterday.
Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett calling for people to attack Tesla dealerships.
I remember post-January 6th when people said that if you had used the word fight in any of your speeches or any of your rhetoric that you were calling for violence.
But I don't hear those same voices denouncing these current calls for violence.
So I agree with you that it is horrifically terrifying.
The great concern I had when the FBI raided my home completely unnecessarily, my wife is deaf.
Without her hearing aid, she literally can hear nothing.
She did not hear the FBI storming my home.
She did not hear my arrest.
They had no way of knowing she was deaf.
My great fear was that they would wake her up, issue a command that she did not hear, she would make a false move, and that they would shoot her.
And that raced through my mind.
I thank the good Lord that that did not happen.
It is a horrific, horrific trend in this country.
And again, it's not isolated.
But I wanted to have Owen Schroyer on today because what happened to him was particularly egregious.
Again, we're taking your calls at 800-848-9222.
We have about two minutes in this segment.
So I guess I'm going to try to take a quick call here.
Dave in Pennsylvania.
Hey, Roger, two quick questions.
How come you haven't added Dylan's Everybody Must Get Stoned to your repertoire?
And the second question is, have you seen this video going around on Instagram?
It's a revise.
It's a Bruder film where they claimed it was actually the driver that shot Kennedy?
I have seen it.
First of all, I was going to add Papa Was a Rolling Stone, which I think was by the, is the four tops of the temptation.
Somebody will correct me on that to our musical repertoire.
But I have seen it, but I've watched that video over and over again, and I don't see that which is described by many.
I just don't see it.
I did see the Paramount documentary recently released in which the Parkland doctors said that they saw wounds in President John F. Kennedy consistent with his being shot from both the front and the behind.
Well, that would mean that Oswald or whoever shot Kennedy did not act alone, that there were multiple shooters.
This is consistent in the theory in my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ.
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They went after a guy named Roger Stone who's sitting in the office.
And I'll say this in front of Roger.
He's no baby.
And right now, he's cleaner than anybody in this place.
Now, as they treated him very unfairly.
Now, get him a zone.
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Gabby, you're calling from Chicago, the windiest city.
What is your question?
Hello.
Yes, Gabby.
Welcome to Stone Zone.
Oh, thank you so much.
I just have a question.
So I go to a pretty left-wing school, and I was wondering if you had any advice for a sort of young right-winger to survive a campus like this.
I guess the best piece of advice I can give you is to think for yourself, read widely, be inquisitive.
Free Speech Questions 00:08:15
I'm one who doesn't believe that everything the government always tells you is true.
I also think that debate is healthy, free speech is healthy, but not when you advocate violence, not when you advocate and, in some cases, actually perpetrate violence.
There is no question that people who are conservatives, who are in college, can feel isolated, can feel like they are alone.
The best piece of advice I can give you is to think for yourself, make your own decisions.
We revere free speech.
As someone who was banned for life on Facebook and Instagram, they never gave any reason for that, by the way.
I appreciate my free speech and my right to free expression and my right to free thought.
And I think you should too, Gabby.
God bless you.
All right.
Thank you.
All right, Carl in Queens, you have a thought.
Yes, two things real quick.
First of all, with the Kennedys nation, what I find shocking is they've released thousands upon things of information and files and this, whatever they are.
But the point is, Trump attempted to set two instances.
We have almost virtually nothing.
Yeah, that is very disturbing to me also.
I mean, we know, for example, that the Secret Service, the state police, and the local police know for 92 minutes that there's a man who's been seen with a rangefinder and a gun in the perimeter,
the closed perimeter of the Trump event, yet no one informs the president's immediate security detail so that he can be evacuated, which would be the normal procedure based on the Secret Service manual and my own long experience in presidential politics.
We now learn that the Secret Service, the State Police, and the local police were all on different radio frequencies.
So they could not even speak to each other.
In fact, I believe it was local police who first spotted the shooter on the roof of the building.
And then very similarly to the way they immediately hosed out the interior of President Kennedy's limousine, there's an immediate act to hose down the roof of the building from which the shooter allegedly shot.
And even more strangely, the alleged shooter's body is almost immediately cremated, despite the fact that there's no request for his family to do that.
I find all of that suspicious.
I'm hopeful that Kash Patel, the FBI director, can get to the bottom of it, because as you point out, there are more questions than there are answers.
This is equally true of the attack on the president in West Palm Beach.
We don't have enough answers.
Every night when I say the rosary, when I pray the rosary, I pray first for the protection and the safety of President Donald Trump.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
There were two attempts on his life.
There could, God forbid, be yet another.
And we don't have enough answers about the last one.
Thank you so much for your question.
Patrick in Ohio, you have a question.
Good evening, Mr. Stone.
A pleasure to speak with you.
Help me to understand on the SWATI incidents.
Someone calls in a murder and then the police perform SWAT maneuvers without knowing who called or where they're calling from.
I'm having trouble with that.
Well, look, I'm not a police officer, but I don't think you can blame them.
It's not always a murder.
Sometimes they're told that someone's being held hostage or there's some other violent situation.
So they are showing up with maximum force because they don't know what they're dealing with and they don't know that it's not real.
It is terrifying.
It's extraordinary.
I don't blame the police.
They're doing their job.
And until they can guarantee that there is no threat and that the call that they've received is not real, they're merely doing their job.
On the other hand, I've had my home raided at 6 o'clock in the morning.
They brought a battering rim up to the front door of my house as if I wasn't going to answer the door, which, of course, I was.
And yes, I opened the door looking down the barrel of two fully automatic M4 assault weapons.
My wife, who, as I said earlier, was deaf, she didn't hear any of this.
She woke up looking down the barrel of two guns.
She didn't know whether it was a home invasion or what was going on.
So absolutely petrified.
I do not blame the police.
They are simply responding to a call and doing their job.
But I thank you very much for your question.
Tony in Clifton, New Jersey, you have a question.
Thank you, Roger Stone.
So I went on to the CIA website because there's no order to documents that we received.
And like you said, they're kind of old already.
When you go onto the CIA website, I was just looking for things that might help me piece other things together.
Very interesting email.
In the CIA, it was like from 1963.
Then it was questioned by the Freedom of Information people.
And it was really between agencies saying, how did the story about Lee Harvey Oswald get out?
The FBI didn't understand.
And they were really questioning McCone, who was, McCone, John McCone, the director of the CIA, where he was kind of planting information himself because there was a lot of question to him.
You know, Roger, I think what we're going to find out mostly is that the CIA needs to be disbanded like most of the government.
But I think there's little bits if you read stories, and Greg Kelly has been encouraging us to go through this.
You read stories, we can pick up something, and we always say a prayer, right, Roger?
Indeed.
Missing from those documents, interestingly enough, is any record of the first call between CIA Director John McCone and President Lyndon Johnson.
For whatever reason, the existence of that audio and that transcript is well known, but it is not included in the documents and we have never seen it.
So we don't know what was said and what was not said.
At a minimum, I think what we've seen so far is incomplete.
I was looking at it for one myoptic reason.
That was to try to establish what the Central Intelligence Agency knew and when they knew it.
Thank you so much for your call.
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