The Stone Zone dissects Trump’s March 2025 release of 80,000 JFK files, exposing CIA surveillance of Oswald and Gary Underhill’s alleged confession before his suicide. Roger Stone and Tyler Nixon challenge the lone-gunman theory, citing Parkland Hospital’s medical evidence and Lyndon Johnson’s suspicious actions—like ordering a second suit and feigning shock in a November 27, 1963, call with Hoover. They highlight Abraham Bolden’s racist persecution by the Secret Service, while warning against congressional cuts to rural healthcare. The episode frames JFK’s death as a state-engineered cover-up to escalate Cold War tensions. [Automatically generated summary]
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Here we talk all things political, and there is no bigger story today than the delivery of the promised release of the documents pertaining to the murder of President John F. Kennedy on November 22nd, 1963.
A senior editor at the National Inquirer once told me that on any given month when that publication was short of revenue, they would merely put a Kennedy assassination-related story on the cover and they would sell almost 200,000 copies more that particular week.
That's because the Kennedy assassination is an enduring murder mystery in which we still don't seem to have all of the answers.
President Donald Trump promised throughout his campaign to release all of the documents in the John F. Kennedy assassination records collection.
It's interesting that in 1994, the Congress mandated that all documents pertaining to the murder of our 36th president be released in the year 2017.
That is the first year of the Trump presidency.
Back in 2017, I urged President Donald Trump to release all of these documents, and I thought that he would do so, deciding only at the last minute to hold back about 20% of the documents, and then did so at the behest of the CIA director, Mike Pompeo, who argued that full release would expose the methods and sources of that intelligence agency.
Since that time, on the campaign trail, President Donald Trump has concluded that that decision on his part was an error, and he pledged repeatedly to release all of the documents.
Late yesterday afternoon, there were reports that the release would be delayed because the U.S. Justice Department was reviewing the documents over, quote, national security concerns, close quote.
But late in the day, the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, released the long-awaited JFK files.
She said, President Trump is ushering in a new era of maximum transparency.
Today, per his direction, previously redacted JFK assassination files are being released to the public with no redactions.
Promises made, promises kept.
In a longer statement, the office of the director of national intelligence wrote: President Donald Trump promised maximum transparency and a commitment to rebuild the trust of the American people in the intelligence community and federal agencies.
Part of that promise was to fully release previously classified records related to the assassination of JFK, Senator Robert F. Kennedy, and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Starting today, those records will be available online at archives.gov/slash JFK.
This release consists of approximately 80,000 pages of previously classified records that will now be published without redactions.
Yet, questions still remain regarding the assassination of JFK, even after the president has fulfilled his long-standing political promises.
The records can be seen online, as I just said, or actually be viewed in person at the National Archives Office in College Park, Maryland.
So far, there are several highlights, especially concerning alleged Kennedy assassination assassin Lee Harvey Oswald.
The files reveal, among other things, that the CIA believed that Oswald was reportedly considered a, quote, poor shot during his target practice in the USSR and was under surveillance by the Central Intelligence Agency 59 days before the assassination.
It also makes it very clear that Oswald was, in fact, a spy in the employ of the Central Intelligence Agency.
The files also show that a former CIA agent, Gary Underhill, claimed that the agency was responsible for Kennedy's death.
He was later found dead, and his death was ruled a suicide.
More shockingly, a man named Sergei Gozornov reportedly knew that Oswald would be killed after assassinating Kennedy and that legendary civil rights activist Dr. Martin Luther King would also be assassinated.
This source seemed to know in advance that Kennedy would be killed in Dallas.
But there remains many unanswered questions, particularly surrounding the CIA and the man that they claim succeeded Kennedy as president.
It is that, of course, would be Lyndon Baines Johnson.
James Johnston, the author of a book called Murder Incorporated, said that the CIA, under John F. Kennedy, explained to USA Today that a crucial document exists but has not been turned over to the National Archives.
This paper concerns the first one-on-one conversation between President Lyndon Johnson and CIA Director John McCone, which occurred after Johnson assumed power.
Now, Philip Sheenan, in his book, A Cruel and Shocking Act: The Secret History of the Kennedy Assassination, noted that McCone, who was the CIA director, has long been suspected of hiding crucial details from the Warren Commission, the panel that Johnson created to supposedly investigate the assassination.
Back in 2015, Sheenan wrote a piece for Politico that said that CIA Director McCone was kept on as CIA director by Johnson and previously pledged full cooperation with the commission.
Now, Johnson's original plan was to appoint a state of Texas commission.
He had U.S. Supreme Court Justice Tom Clark in mind to chair such a commission, but was persuaded that the American people would not buy the conclusions of a state commission and that a federal commission was required.
The Warren Commission obviously took McCone at his word, but as noted later, the CIA later acknowledged McCone had hidden substantial information from the Warren investigators.
There are many, many holes in the entire story.
If Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed John F. Kennedy using a World War II vintage $26 Italian carbine, why then did he have no powder burns on his chest or his arms or his hands?
I have seen nothing that dissuades me from the theory of my 2013 book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, that Lyndon Johnson was at the helm of a plot to kill our 36th president.
Johnson was under investigation in two of the biggest corruption scandals in U.S. history, the Bobby Baker scandal.
Baker was the secretary of the U.S. Senate, as well as a bagman for Lyndon Johnson, and the Billy Salestes investigation.
Now, Billy Salestis was a flamboyant Texas wheeler dealer who had gotten enormous agricultural contracts through the largesse of President Lyndon Johnson, actually at that point, Vice President Lyndon Johnson, and was kicking back to Johnson.
Interestingly enough, Robert Carro, who wrote a three-volume Pulitzer Prize-winning biography of Johnson, fails to mention Billy Salestis at all.
How strange.
Then only weeks ago, Billy Salestis's grandson released an audio tape that was a recording between Cliff Carter, the chief political operative for LBJ,
at that time the executive director of the Democrat National Committee, and Billy Salestis himself, in which they openly discussed the fact that a man named Malcolm Mac Wallace had been hired by Lyndon Johnson to kill John F. Kennedy.
Now, as I revealed in my book, Wallace's fingerprints were found on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building, both on the window casing and also on the cardboard boxes that formed the so-called crow's nest from which the shooter at that vantage shot.
We know that they are Wallace's fingerprints because in 1951, Malcolm Mac Wallace shot and killed a man named John Kinzer, John Douglas Kinzer, in cold blood in Texas, Dallas, Texas, almost immediately apprehended.
He shot and killed Kinzer, who at the time was trying to blackmail Senator Lyndon Johnson, who was, Kinzer was having a fair with Johnson's Bohemian sister, and he was trying to blackmail Johnson regarding the theft of the 1948 election and other acts of corruption by Johnson.
At least six people see a man standing in the window of the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository building who meets the physical description of Malcolm Mac Wallace.
That is middle-aged, heavy set, balding, and wearing spectacles.
Three of the witnesses are in the county jail, which is directly across Dealey Plaza from the Texas School Book Depository building.
And three of the other witnesses see this from the ground.
None of that, of course, is reflected either in the Warren Commission findings, nor has it been included thus far in the documents released by the National Archive.
I believe that Wallace is but one shooter.
I would direct those who are interested to the recent documentary released by Paramount Plus called What the Parkland Doctors Saw.
Now, that documentary demonstrates that the doctors at Parkland Hospital in Dallas who attended President John F. Kennedy immediately after he was shot witnessed wounds in the president that would have been consistent with JFK being shot from the front and the back.
That, of course, means that in addition to Wallace, that there were multiple shooters.
If there were multiple shooters, there was, therefore, a conspiracy.
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If anything, these new releases from the National Archives have only sought to reinforce what I believe is a false narrative, that Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, shot President John F. Kennedy, all three shots coming from the rear.
And we haven't even gotten to the so-called single bullet theory yet.
That theory, cooked up by Warren Commission Counsel Arlen Spector, later a U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania, defies all logistics and ballistics.
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It is impossible to parse 80,000 documents overnight, although many have tried.
Joining us now is attorney and respected RFK researcher Tyler Nixon.
He also represents Abraham Bolden, who is among, I think, the first African-American Secret Service agents who was there in Dallas.
The story of Bolden is something we'll get into a little later.
But Tyler, welcome to the Stone Zone.
Roger, great to be with you.
Congratulations.
It is great to have you.
I know few people as knowledgeable as you are about the Kennedy assassination.
So let me ask you off the top with these disclosures yesterday, what do you make of what you have seen so far?
Well, I'm not surprised.
And I think we've talked about this many times.
I don't believe that there will be any sort of bombshell, smoking guns, or any type of dispositive evidence that comes out that conclusively says that it was any one particular person or that it was Lee Harvey Oswald.
What I am seeing a lot of is a lot of focus on what I think would be considered the cover story or the story that they wanted to be believed, which Oswald wasn't a lone nut that he was backed by Cuba or Russia in order to exacerbate and make worse and potentially spark war for the Warhawks, the Curtis LeMays of the world who wanted the confrontation with Russia and didn't mind potentially having a nuclear war.
And Kennedy had thwarted that, and I believe that was part of what cost him his life.
And what we're seeing are a lot of, I think, documents that are key to that sort of story.
Oswald was controlled by this and that Russian operatives and that kind of thing.
To me, it's a lot of filler.
It's really, there's only been one, I think, document, the Underhill, the memo that indicates that a gentleman named Underhill, the day of the assassination, went to friends with, you know, with terror.
It was terrorized.
Said that the CIA did it.
And of course, he committed suicide supposedly six months later.
And, you know, that's kind of a little juicy tidbit, but nothing at the core of the story.
I think we know that 62 years these documents have been sitting in the recesses of the government archives, the CIA or wherever have you.
And they have been gone over and scrubbed, I'm sure, so many times.
I agree, Tyler.
I'm going to stop you there.
We're going to go to a quick break.
When we return, Tyler Nixon will continue to talk to us about the disclosures of the JFK documents.
And I want to get into the story of Abraham Bolden, a Secret Service agent who has been disserved by this country.
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He's represented me personally.
There's really nobody better on these topics.
You made an excellent point before the break, Tyler, and that is these documents have been in the hands of the federal government for 62 years.
They have had more than enough time to cleanse them of any document that would disprove what I think is the largely discredited theory of the Warren Commission, that being that Lee Harvey Oswald, a lone nut, supposedly a Russian communist, shot and killed the president and acted alone.
I always thought it was interesting that Malcolm Kilduff, the man who was the deputy press secretary for President John F. Kennedy, the man who had the horrific job of announcing to the huddled press in Dallas that John F. Kennedy had, in fact, passed away, is almost subsequently on an elevator with the new president, Lyndon Johnson.
And he says to him, according to Kilduff's memoirs, Mr. President, who would do such a horrible thing?
Who would kill our president?
And Johnson says, it was a communist son.
And Kilduff says, a communist?
What kind of a communist, sir?
And Johnson says, it was a Russian communist son.
The problem with this conversation, of course, is that Oswald had not yet been apprehended.
So how did Johnson know that a quote-unquote Russian communist had killed John F. Kennedy?
Interestingly, just as you had noted, I saw, I believe, a tweet from yesterday, Roger, that Johnson asked for a second set of clothing, a suit, to be brought on the 21st.
So as if he was going to the next day have to change his clothes.
And, you know, look, Johnson was your amazing book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, the Case Against LBJ, which I would urge everyone to go out and get if you haven't gotten it yet, really does tie it all together.
At the center of it all was this just homicidal, sort of megalomaniacal psychopath, Lyndon Johnson.
And he, you know, it really, you have to think of the milieu in which everybody lived back then and the grandeur of the presidency and the ability of the intelligence services and frankly the powers that be to control media is the fact that if you think about it today as just a basic story, John Kennedy was invited to Texas, the home turf of Lyndon Johnson.
Johnson goes back as president and Kennedy comes back in a body bag.
I mean, and that really tells you what you need to know about the whole thing.
We know that the night before the murder, that Johnson goes to President Kennedy's room in Fort Worth in a hotel and tries to persuade Kennedy to change the motorcade arrangements to put his hated enemy,
Senator Ralph Yarborough of Texas, the head of the progressive liberal wing of the Texas Democrat Party, in the death car with Kennedy and have Johnson crony, Governor John Connolly, removed and put in the vice presidential car.
And because that defeats the whole supposed purpose for the trip to Texas, which is to bind up the divisions in the Texas Democrat Party between the bourbon conservative wing of the party, a wing that no longer exists today, I might add, and the progressive wing of the Democrat Party, Kennedy refuses.
And Johnson throws, pitches a fit, leaves in a huff.
Jacqueline Kennedy asks her husband, what's wrong with Johnson?
And Kennedy says that's just Lyndon being Lyndon.
So it is clear to me that Johnson knows that his protege, the man who served as his Senate administrative assistant, a man of whom he once said that John Connolly is as loyal as a dog.
He said, if you called him at three o'clock in the morning, told him to come polish your boots, he'd come a running.
It's a direct quote.
He knew that Connolly was in the death car.
Connolly, of course, would be wounded in the attack on Kennedy.
He would never allow the bullet to be removed from his wrist, but he always publicly denied the so-called single-bullet theory, that is, that he had been hit by the same bullet as John Kennedy.
Yes, no question.
And it's interesting.
There's some pictures of Connolly right at the airport as they're getting ready to leave Love Field.
And he's got this like stiff expression on his face.
I mean, he looks tense, let's just say, as if he knew he knew something was coming as well, obviously, because he's the one who invited Kennedy to Texas.
And, you know, I guess it shows that JFK, maybe as savvy as he was, was a little naive about how ruthless and crazy that Lyndon Johnson was and how high his blood was up for the Kennedys and all the slights.
And it's probably because Jack Kennedy tried to treat Lyndon and tried to get his people to treat Lyndon with respect or some level of dignity, but they couldn't help it.
I mean, they called him Uncle Corn Pone, I believe, was one of the nicknames they called him.
And, you know, he was treated very, very shabbily by the Kennedy retinue as well.
Of course, he and Bobby Kennedy hated each other.
But it does, you know, I guess you got to say at least Lyndon tried, right?
But nevertheless, he had to send, watch his protege go right into the kill zone as he ducked down inside his limousine or his Lincoln Continental a few cars back.
Yeah, that's another key factor, which is you can see in both newsreel footage and also still photograph footage from that day, riding in the vice presidential limousine, which was a Cadillac that they called the Queen Mary, which would normally have been directly behind the presidential limousine.
But there was, in this case, both a Secret Service car full of agents and a car full of reporters between the presidential and vice presidential limousines.
And if you look at the pictures, you see Lady Bird Johnson and you see Senator Ralph Yarborough and you see Lyndon Johnson.
Then in the next frame, Johnson is missing.
That's because, as we now know, before the first shot is fired, Johnson hits the deck.
He is on the floor of his limousine talking into what Ralph Yarborough says in his memoirs and in oral history is a walkie-talkie or some kind of small radio.
So clearly, Johnson anticipates the attack on Kennedy in advance.
Now, the Secret Service agent assigned to Johnson would tell the Warren Commission that after he heard the first shot, that he forced Johnson to the floor.
Only after Johnson's death did that agent come forward and say, well, that wasn't really the truth.
That's what I was told to say.
In fact, Johnson hit the deck prior to the first shot being fired.
That's right.
And he told the story that Rufus Youngblood leapt over to the car and threw himself on top of Johnson, leapt over the seat.
And this was not true.
This was not true at all.
He was just trying to play up the whole drama of it, as though he was in mortal danger as well as John F. Kennedy.
And, of course, we have that infamous November 27th conversation between recorded, which Johnson knew was being recorded, of course, between he and J. Edgar Hoover, where he sort of asks, do you think they were firing at me or do you think there was any threat to me?
Something along those lines.
And, you know, playing up for the recording, clearly, because he knew full well that there was no guns aimed at him that day.
You have taken on the case of Abraham Bolden.
This is, I think, a very compelling story that unfortunately the mainstream media has not covered.
Bolden was a Secret Service agent.
I think he may have been the first or among the first African-American Secret Service agents who've been treated extremely shabbily by our government.
Tell us this story.
Sure.
It's really, it's a horrifying story, especially considering that not only were some of them hung over beyond belief, Secret Service agents there in Dallas that day, none, not a single agent was either disciplined.
In fact, many of them were promoted.
The shift supervisor Emery Roberts, who stood, told the agents to freeze in the limousine behind Kennedy's limousine, the Queen Mary, told them to freeze as the shooting began.
He became the appointment secretary to Lyndon Johnson.
Kind of an odd role for a Secret Service agent, but that, again, touches back on Lyndon's complicity.
But Abraham Bolden was the first black Secret Service agent ever to serve on the White House detail.
He was hand-selected by President Kennedy when President Kennedy came through Chicago on April 28th, 1961.
Bolden served, it was a brief period because he experienced such intense racism amongst the agents and constantly being lampooned.
And he also saw among the agents quite a bit of laxity and carousing and drinking, similar to what the agents who were out in the cellar in Fort Worth till 4 a.m. the morning of the assassination did.
Bolden Returns to Chicago is an extremely meritorious and brilliant undercover Secret Service agent doing bus on counterfeiters.
He had been the first black detective in the Illinois State Police, and he was the first black Pinkerton detective.
He had a spotless record.
After the assassination, and by the way, he also had heard amongst agents, some of these southern agents who called him, who took to referring to President Kennedy as a N-word lover.
I won't use the actual term.
And sentiments that they might not protect Kennedy were there to be an attack on him, which he found also shocking.
So Bolden, of course, is shocked and just dismally disappointed and horrified at the assassination of President Kennedy.
And in part because on November 2nd, 1963, The Secret Service in Chicago had busted up, well, not busted up, but learned of some Cuban Cubans who were in town staying in a rooming house.
And the rooming house, I guess, the lady who runs it had been cleaning the room and found high-powered rifles and a map with the parade route proposed.
President Kennedy was going to come to town to see the Army-Navy game.
They broke that up, or they were onto it.
And essentially, President Kennedy's trip to Chicago ultimately was canceled.
We're unclear as to why, but they bungled the pursuit of these Cubans.
I think they only caught one of them.
They interrogated him and apparently just let him go.
And knowledge of this was held within Chicago, the Chicago field office and potentially some higher-ups, maybe in the Secret Service, but was not disseminated throughout the system.
So, you know, this is this was a shocking.
It should have been a high alert to the agency throughout that they should have been on, you know, there should have been extra precautions taken in Dallas.
So Bolden continues his work as a Secret Service agent, and the Warren Commission is formed in early 64.
And Bolden decides that he can't hold this information to himself concerning the laxity of the agents and especially concerning the plot that he was aware of in Chicago.
And he requests to speak to the Warren Commission.
He sends a formal request up the chain of command and is denied.
Of course, they say, no, you will not speak to the Warren Commission.
So, you know, Bolden was not one to accept.
You know, he's a truthful man, an honest man.
He's really, if you hear him speak, he has the wisdom of Solomon.
And so in May of 64, around the, I believe, the 18th, he is sent with a number of agents to Washington for what they said was annual training that was due that Secret Service agents have with the national headquarters.
Immediately that afternoon, the same day, they're all ordered, the agents from Chicago, including Bolden, to return to Chicago.
And he begins to get suspicious because it was unusual.
They said there was some counterfeiting case that they needed everybody on deck for.
The head of the Secret Service in Chicago at the time, Maurice Martineau, directly gave the order.
When Bolden gets down on the ground, they escort him to the U.S. Attorney's Office and charge him out of the blue with soliciting a bribe.
Now, this was a crazy instance because, first of all, Bolden had arrested one of the people accusing him twice before.
And these were two career criminals who had absolutely long records of crime and were also under pending charges.
And the main witness was facing upwards of decades in prison.
Tyler, Tyler, I'm going to stop you there.
We're going to pick it up on the other side.
If you're just tuning in, we're talking to Tyler Nixon, JFK assassination researcher, and will be right back.
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Tyler, continue with this story of injustice regarding Abraham Bolden.
Sure.
Abraham Bolden, the Secret Service agent, first black Secret Service agent on the White House detail, handpicked by President Kennedy, is arrested by his fellow Secret Service agents in Chicago on May 18th, 1964, and charged with soliciting a bribe.
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The story on its face is frankly crazy because, first of all, the only witnesses against him, supposed witnesses, were career criminals who were in the essentially under the pressure of facing immediate trial on serious counterfeiting charges.
And there was no physical evidence or any sort of evidence directly dispositive or showing that Bolden had, in fact, solicited a bribe.
And it just makes no sense.
The man had a spotless record of service, was a meticulous undercover agent who had been commended multiple times within the agency for all the great work he did.
And so he's immediately brought to trial.
And I'm talking within a matter of weeks before let's just say a bombastic, aggressive, and racist judge in federal court.
He is put through this ridiculous, almost absurd sort of trial where the evidence are things like a whiskey bottle that has fingerprints of one of the witnesses against him to prove that they were together when the bribe solicitation was passed along.
It was just an absurdity.
And the judge constantly cut off Bolden's defense attorney and really made it quite a slog for him just to get through and put on any kind of defense.
And the judge, finally, as they're getting ready to, the jury is getting ready to retire to deliberate, does the unusual move of telling the jury that he believes that the evidence is sufficient to show that the defendant is guilty.
In other words, essentially tells them that he thinks Bolden's guilty.
So this is, I mean, this is so rigged, it's unbelievable.
Bolden ultimately gets a hung jury in that first trial.
And it was a single black lady who was on the trial of the jury who said she didn't, you know, she held out.
She would not vote guilty.
So it was a hung jury.
And immediately within a matter of, again, a couple of weeks, I mean, you're talking, he went through two federal trials within a matter of three months, which is in itself unheard of and certainly would never happen today.
Goes through a second trial, same deal, and is ultimately found guilty by the all-white jury, of course, in Chicago, and is sentenced ultimately to six and a half years in federal prison where he serves three and a half.
Now, this is where it really gets nuts.
The main witness against him, this guy, Joseph Spagnoli, the counterfeiter, the career criminal, goes to trial before the same judge a couple months later in Chicago, or a few months later.
During that trial, he is under oath and testifies, and to the surprise, obviously, of the federal prosecutors, that the assistant U.S. attorney, one of the assistant U.S. attorneys in Bolden's case, prosecuting Bolden, suborned perjured testimony from this witness, Spagnoli, against Bolden.
So in other words, Bolden was convicted on perjured testimony solicited by the assistant U.S. attorney and coached as well, not just simply solicited, but also suborned.
And this goes to appeal that the judge presiding was at a really nasty grind, I guess, with Bolden was a racist.
He refuses to even declare a mistrial or do anything about it.
It goes up to appeal in the circuit court of the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals.
And this information is brought out.
This assistant U.S. attorney is called before the Court of Appeals to answer for the perjury charge or the suborning perjury charge, whether he did this.
He pleads the Fifth Amendment before the Court of Appeals.
If you can believe that, how would that be acceptable in this, anywhere, in any ethical environment or fair environment?
Tyler, we've got about one minute.
You are fighting for justice for Abraham Bolden.
Tell us how folks can support that fight.
Well, right now, we're getting ready to request that the president settle Abraham Bolden's civil case and order the vacature through Pam Bondi of his conviction in Chicago in 1964, and that he be restored as a Secret Service agent.
And there will be more coming on that, Roger.
I don't want to, everybody can catch my Twitter feed, my ex-feed at RealTylerNixon, and I'll be posting more and more information about that in the days ahead.
And I appreciate your support, Roger.
You worked so hard to try to get him a pardon several years back, and he ultimately did get one, but justice has not been done yet in his case.
All right.
I want to thank our guest, Tyler Nixon, and also for laying out the story of injustice against Abraham Bolden, the first African-American Secret Service agent assigned to a presidential detail.
This has been the Stone Zone.
We appreciate your tuning in.
Until we meet again, God bless you and Godspeed.
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No matter where you live, hospital care doesn't clock out.
They're there 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.
Each year, America's over 5,000 hospitals care for millions of patients, providing 24-7 emergency care, delivering babies, cancer treatments, and other life-saving care that patients rely on.
Behind every one of those patients are doctors, nurses, and caregivers working tirelessly to keep people healthy and safe.
Hospitals are our community's lifelines.
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